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| 12:37.59 | erisna-- | mornin' |
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| 12:41.00 | erisna-- | well, im a beginner coder at lua and i just would like to display a cooldown for a specific spell (example : spellLock (warlock)) |
| 12:41.14 | erisna-- | i did that last night http://pastebin.com/Kn1zUrQU |
| 12:41.47 | erisna-- | i can see the spell lock icon but the cooldown doesn't work at all |
| 12:55.12 | erisna-- | actually i just need the name of a function event to check is the spell is ready in my spellbook |
| 12:55.51 | erisna-- | coz spelllock can be resetted if im using grimoire of sacrifice |
| 12:56.47 | erisna-- | but its maybe too early in US to get some help, you're probably sleeping :s |
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| 13:21.01 | Simca | random c# question - how could this happen? http://i.imgur.com/abAp7t9.jpg |
| 13:43.12 | Fisker | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24265481/after-directory-delete-the-directory-exists-returning-true-sometimes <-if you didn't already program yourself the answer |
| 13:43.48 | erisna-- | any help pls? |
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| 14:06.09 | erisna-- | wtf !!! |
| 14:06.10 | erisna-- | http://pastebin.com/uTFfpuFi |
| 14:06.13 | erisna-- | still not working |
| 14:06.30 | erisna-- | i read http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/API_GetSpellCooldown |
| 14:28.34 | erisna-- | GetSpellCooldown sucks |
| 14:36.26 | erisna-- | local start, duration = GetSpellCooldown("Shadowfury") if ( start > 0 and duration > 0) then print("TEST") else print("FIN") end |
| 14:36.27 | erisna-- | but WTF |
| 14:36.34 | erisna-- | even this little code doesn't work |
| 14:36.41 | erisna-- | making me crazy |
| 14:38.28 | zenzelezz | "doesn't work" how - does it give the wrong (unexpected) message, or no message at all? |
| 14:38.53 | erisna-- | no message at all except when i /reload ui |
| 14:39.18 | erisna-- | need an event i guess ? |
| 14:39.24 | erisna-- | can't understand something |
| 14:40.20 | erisna-- | when i /reload ui i can see my "FIN" displayed |
| 14:40.49 | erisna-- | or my "TEST" if cd is on cooldown |
| 14:41.01 | erisna-- | so ok it "works" but i have to /reload ui for that |
| 14:41.05 | erisna-- | so... i need an event |
| 14:42.08 | erisna-- | but when im reading about GetSpellCooldown and how it works , nowehere i can read about an event for it |
| 14:42.39 | zenzelezz | I don't remember the order of events anymore, but you could try calling it from inside a PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD event handler or something like that |
| 14:43.06 | nevcairiel | SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN is the event |
| 14:43.07 | zenzelezz | most likely there's no requirement to use it within an event context, but it might just not have the info available when your addon loads |
| 14:44.51 | erisna-- | thanks ! |
| 14:49.25 | VIad | if you register player_login / player_entering_world then past those events a lot of the api return valid data |
| 14:50.39 | VIad | btw wanted to try wildstar, met with an hour queue :D |
| 14:50.58 | zenzelezz | one does not simply play Wildstar |
| 14:51.12 | VIad | starwars went f2p and didnt have this issue |
| 14:51.19 | VIad | I remember because i played it back then :p |
| 14:53.01 | VIad | shrug, just if just trying out the game feels like a chore then not sure if many will want to pick it up :p |
| 14:53.10 | VIad | just trying it will make me have to wait an hour :p |
| 14:53.21 | VIad | hope I dont get any DC I guess |
| 14:53.21 | nevcairiel | if there is a queue, enough people must be playing it =p |
| 14:53.35 | VIad | or they got 100 slots for F2P characters :p |
| 14:53.46 | nevcairiel | didnt they get rid of the sub model entirely |
| 14:53.54 | VIad | they still got it |
| 14:54.03 | VIad | 13⬠for a month |
| 14:54.06 | zenzelezz | I was really disappointed in SWTOR |
| 14:54.26 | VIad | dunno. so far I am left with a better F2P impression of SWTOR |
| 14:54.27 | zenzelezz | basically just another KotoR, that part was good, but beyond the story quest I didn't feel there was much to it |
| 14:54.29 | VIad | compared to wildstar |
| 14:54.31 | nevcairiel | for me swtor was a glorified single player game |
| 14:54.37 | VIad | yeah |
| 14:54.51 | nevcairiel | the story and storytelling was good |
| 14:54.59 | VIad | just like how they made skyrim online instead just focusing on making a SP game maybe with a system to join friends :p |
| 14:55.00 | nevcairiel | but after that, i just got bored so quickly |
| 14:55.36 | zenzelezz | had a similar experience with TSW; the very first zone/area was mysterious and full of intriguing story and stuff... but I quickly got bored with the systems |
| 14:55.51 | VIad | maybe we should return to our roots |
| 14:55.55 | VIad | lineage 2, runescape |
| 14:56.33 | nevcairiel | i played wildstar on release, and the story didnt manage to capture me, so i never even got close to finishing leveling |
| 14:57.25 | zenzelezz | never tried Wildstar, it just didn't look (visually) like a game I'd enjoy. Did try Rift on release, but something about the systems didn't feel "right" to me |
| 14:57.31 | zenzelezz | been wondering if I should give that another try |
| 14:57.46 | VIad | I want to try it but 1h queue :p |
| 14:57.56 | nevcairiel | maybe dont try on saturday evening! |
| 14:58.07 | VIad | maybe its the weekend and I have time :/ |
| 14:58.30 | VIad | maybe Ill just uninstall it and what ever, not like I HAVE to try it, was just a bit curious |
| 14:58.39 | VIad | not enough though to stay an hour queued :p |
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| 15:20.27 | VIad | oh |
| 15:20.44 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1443885635.png I shouldnt had imgured while in queue :P |
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| 16:01.40 | erisna-- | anyone can paste me an easy code just to show me how can i display a spell cooldown? |
| 16:11.06 | VIad | my recommendation to you erisna-- is to get weakauras2 if you just want to make simple icons on screen to notify yourself. :p |
| 16:11.22 | schlumpf | or tellmewhen, which is even a tad bit easier |
| 16:11.45 | erisna-- | im learning lua VIad |
| 16:11.59 | VIad | got it - I have nothing easily available sadly |
| 16:12.00 | erisna-- | its a good way for me to learn |
| 16:12.16 | schlumpf | both have the possibility to add custom lua code to the displays, though, so you can focus more on logic than UI stuff |
| 16:19.12 | erisna-- | http://pastebin.com/iH2NugpQ |
| 16:19.20 | erisna-- | thats exactly what i wanted |
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| 16:55.42 | VIad | erisna--: depends what you plan to use isOnCooldown for :p |
| 16:56.07 | VIad | also you can optimize, such as GetSpellInfo(119898) itself is like a constant |
| 16:56.18 | VIad | can put it near your declaration of isOnCooldown as a "constant" |
| 17:09.27 | VIad | is it me or does these timewarped items bug tooltip addons? |
| 17:10.09 | VIad | experiencing inconsistensies |
| 17:11.28 | Fisker | Did you do it Simca ? |
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| 17:31.44 | zenzelezz | game developers... please start defaulting your resolution to that of the monitor |
| 17:32.16 | mckenziemc | windowed-modes zenzelezz. |
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| 17:37.58 | Fisker | I prefer 320x240 resolution |
| 17:46.47 | Dagmar | ...but what if they don't speak French? |
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| 18:19.22 | erisna-- | okay well, now i can see my "command demon" spell on cooldown in arena, it works well but.. |
| 18:19.51 | erisna-- | but the command demon icon is not near my trinkets icon and i cant understand why |
| 18:20.04 | erisna-- | my command demon appears at the bottom of the screen |
| 18:20.06 | erisna-- | weird.. |
| 18:20.10 | erisna-- | here the code : http://pastebin.com/b7dJEXa2 |
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| 18:28.41 | Stanzilla | tz: I dont see a problem with that patch |
| 18:28.45 | Iriel | erisna--: Did you try what I suggested yesterday? |
| 18:28.59 | Iriel | erisna--: Putting your anchoring code in a function you could run while in-game |
| 18:29.57 | Iriel | Not that that /should/ make a difference |
| 18:30.19 | erisna-- | yes i read you |
| 18:30.28 | erisna-- | but im doing some skirmishes at the same time |
| 18:30.32 | erisna-- | so thats not a big problem |
| 18:30.32 | Iriel | Oh, I think you may have a typo |
| 18:30.34 | Iriel | Line 23 |
| 18:30.42 | Iriel | You use 'arenaframe2' |
| 18:30.44 | erisna-- | yeah |
| 18:30.46 | erisna-- | i saw it |
| 18:30.47 | Iriel | but you dont use 2 anywhere else |
| 18:30.48 | erisna-- | i removed it :p |
| 18:30.52 | erisna-- | but same problem :/ |
| 18:31.10 | erisna-- | my icon "command demon" is still at the bottom and not near my trinket's icon |
| 18:31.33 | Iriel | You could add this between 10/11 and 23/24 |
| 18:31.47 | erisna-- | ah? |
| 18:32.04 | Iriel | if (!_G[arenaFrame]) then print("Cannot find " .. arenaFrame); end |
| 18:34.42 | erisna-- | error |
| 18:34.55 | erisna-- | i mean, my addon couldn't be loaded well anymore |
| 18:35.09 | Iriel | Sorry, it's not ! in lua is it |
| 18:35.24 | Stanzilla | nop :p |
| 18:35.38 | erisna-- | if (!_G[arenaFrame]) then print("Cannot find " .. arenaFrame) end |
| 18:35.43 | erisna-- | lua error somewhere |
| 18:35.48 | Iriel | if (not _G[arenaFrame]) then print("Cannot find " .. arenaFrame); end |
| 18:35.50 | Stanzilla | not |
| 18:35.51 | erisna-- | ahhhh |
| 18:35.53 | erisna-- | okay |
| 18:35.58 | Iriel | Sorry, far too much java, not enough lua, of late 8-) |
| 18:36.03 | erisna-- | is the ";" needed ? |
| 18:36.10 | Iriel | No, but I like them. |
| 18:36.17 | erisna-- | haha ok |
| 18:37.08 | erisna-- | ok let me try a skirmish to see what happens |
| 18:38.39 | mckenziemc | that's forbidden |
| 18:38.42 | Iriel | Other debugging options are to try things like /dump ArenaEnemyFrameTrinket1:GetParent() or :GetPoint(1), etc. |
| 18:39.56 | Iriel | Once something is in front of you NOT working, spending some time to inspect it to make sure your assumptions are holding can save a lot of iterations of 'try something; test it; see it fail' |
| 18:46.32 | erisna-- | same |
| 18:46.48 | Iriel | so it's still not working but you see no print messages? |
| 18:47.06 | erisna-- | no print messages |
| 18:47.26 | erisna-- | and i add the two lines you said |
| 18:47.54 | Iriel | Hm. |
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| 18:53.44 | Iriel | I can't explain the behavior from the code you pasted, assuming you'd fixed that typo from earlier. |
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| 18:54.20 | erisna-- | http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=153747WoWScrnShot100315205224.jpg |
| 18:54.26 | erisna-- | as you can see |
| 18:54.28 | Iriel | (And the last version of Blizzard's arena code I could get my hands on instantiates all of the frames en-masse, so doing setup up-front shouldn't be an issue) |
| 18:57.12 | erisna-- | and id like that instead : http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=245738WoWScrnShot100315205551.jpg |
| 18:57.33 | Iriel | Can you pastey your CURRENT code? |
| 18:57.53 | erisna-- | sure |
| 18:58.01 | Iriel | Because what you have is 100% consistent with what would have happened when you had the wrong variable name in the 2nd loop |
| 18:58.13 | Iriel | (all of the demon things anchored to the 5th arena enemy) |
| 18:58.40 | erisna-- | http://pastebin.com/BsCNjvMA |
| 19:00.54 | Iriel | That's the version you used for the 2nd screenshot, where you 'fake' it with yourself? |
| 19:01.04 | erisna-- | yeah exactly |
| 19:01.09 | erisna-- | i have a /testaef command |
| 19:01.24 | erisna-- | to test my arenaframes and trinkets + command demon outside arena |
| 19:01.24 | Iriel | And when you've tested THAT version without /testaef, in a skirmish, it still fails? |
| 19:01.32 | erisna-- | yeah :( |
| 19:01.45 | erisna-- | when i tested it in skirmishes its the first pic i pasted |
| 19:01.49 | Iriel | Are you sure you dont have 2 versions of this code installed? |
| 19:01.56 | Iriel | An old version with the typo, and this one? |
| 19:01.57 | erisna-- | you can look the command demon icon at the botton right |
| 19:02.01 | erisna-- | not near arenaframes |
| 19:02.14 | erisna-- | im 100% sure |
| 19:02.19 | Iriel | It's where the 5th enemy would be |
| 19:02.21 | erisna-- | im using what i just pasted to you |
| 19:02.26 | Iriel | if you line the 2 screenshots up and flip back and forth |
| 19:04.35 | erisna-- | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.40 | erisna-- | oh didn't notice that |
| 19:04.42 | erisna-- | yes exact |
| 19:05.57 | Iriel | And that's what the version of the code you pasted here (http://pastebin.com/b7dJEXa2) would do |
| 19:06.12 | Iriel | But I dont know how, given you fixed line 23, it still happens |
| 19:06.50 | erisna-- | and i dunno too |
| 19:06.52 | erisna-- | :( |
| 19:07.20 | erisna-- | i did a /reload, everything is ok |
| 19:07.29 | erisna-- | but still don't work |
| 19:07.40 | Iriel | At times like this I usually close wow, double check my interface folder, and try one last time 8-) |
| 19:09.00 | erisna-- | im going to do that |
| 19:11.04 | erisna-- | ok in Interface/Addons/Myaddon/ in Myaddon.lua i have this : http://pastebin.com/h6TeJTds |
| 19:11.15 | erisna-- | now im restarting the game to do some tests again |
| 19:12.41 | Iriel | good luck |
| 19:15.30 | Iriel | If that still doesn't work, I'm going to suggest you make the frames anonymous |
| 19:15.40 | Iriel | because you might have an addon that's remembering their location |
| 19:15.48 | Iriel | and 'restoring' them helpfully to their wrong locations |
| 19:15.56 | Iriel | If they dont have names, it can't do that |
| 19:18.30 | nevcairiel | why would an addon ever do that |
| 19:19.45 | erisna-- | please don't ask "why an addon", i have a lua issue i need a fix thats all |
| 19:20.42 | Iriel | nevcairiel: I have no idea, I'm running out of other ideas. |
| 19:20.58 | Iriel | Folks have had user placed / framecache issues before |
| 19:20.59 | erisna-- | http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=498245WoWScrnShot100315211420.jpg |
| 19:22.01 | erisna-- | <@Iriel> because you might have an addon that's remembering their location [21:15] <@Iriel> and 'restoring' them helpfully to their wrong locations |
| 19:22.04 | erisna-- | ah... |
| 19:22.28 | erisna-- | i cant paste all the file i have, you would become crazy i think lol |
| 19:23.18 | erisna-- | http://pastebin.com/f2JXbuEH |
| 19:24.07 | schlumpf | please don't use anonymous frames unless it really breaks everything. I hate when I can't freely move stuff :( |
| 19:24.35 | erisna-- | (last paste is all the .lua) |
| 19:26.26 | Iriel | erisna--: I dont see anything particularly egregious, other than hoping that in reality you've created SEVERAL .lua files that do each piece, and load them all from a toc, otherwise you'll drive yourself insane. |
| 19:26.46 | Iriel | (Also, if you stick you code into github, then it would be really easy to share it with others when debgugging 8-)) |
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| 19:27.59 | Iriel | erisna--: just for a test, instead of demon = CreateFrame("Cooldown", arenaFrame.."Demon", ArenaEnemyFrames, "CooldownFrameTemplate") |
| 19:28.08 | Iriel | use demon = CreateFrame("Cooldown", arenaFrame.."ErisnaDemon", ArenaEnemyFrames, "CooldownFrameTemplate") |
| 19:28.13 | Iriel | (I added your name to the frame name) |
| 19:28.19 | Iriel | and see if the problem magically vanishes |
| 19:28.30 | erisna-- | ok ! |
| 19:31.49 | erisna-- | http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=507728WoWScrnShot100315213048.jpg |
| 19:31.51 | erisna-- | same :'( |
| 19:32.03 | erisna-- | demon = CreateFrame("Cooldown", arenaFrame.."ErisnaDemon", ArenaEnemyFrames, "CooldownFrameTemplate") |
| 19:32.09 | erisna-- | then i /reload the game |
| 19:33.11 | Semlar | what's the problem |
| 19:33.49 | Semlar | i'd scroll up but there's too many words |
| 19:33.56 | erisna-- | hi Semlar |
| 19:34.00 | Iriel | Semlar: MY version of his problem is this.. |
| 19:34.20 | Iriel | Semlar: he had this code http://pastebin.com/b7dJEXa2; which had a typo on line 23, which caused all of the demon frames to get anchored to the 5th enemy. |
| 19:34.34 | Iriel | Semlar: he has since fixed that code, but the demon frame is STILL appearing in the wrong location. |
| 19:34.54 | Semlar | maybe he didn't actually fix it in the version the game's loading |
| 19:35.03 | nevcairiel | the entire block starting at 22 is riddled with the same typo |
| 19:35.04 | Iriel | erisna--: If you do /run ArenaEnemyFrame1ErisnaDemon:Show() |
| 19:35.06 | Iriel | where does it appear |
| 19:35.24 | Iriel | Semlar: We went through that, apparently that's been verified |
| 19:35.28 | erisna-- | nothing appears |
| 19:35.39 | Iriel | nevcairiel: the '2' on line 23 is the typo |
| 19:36.29 | Iriel | erisna--: is there an ArenaEnemyFrame1 visible? |
| 19:36.32 | erisna-- | no |
| 19:36.37 | Iriel | Oh, show that also. |
| 19:36.40 | erisna-- | absolutly none |
| 19:36.50 | Iriel | actually, even better |
| 19:36.53 | Iriel | do /framestack |
| 19:36.57 | erisna-- | im outside arena however |
| 19:37.00 | Iriel | and mouse over where you think the demon frames *SHOULD* be |
| 19:37.08 | erisna-- | ok |
| 19:37.17 | nevcairiel | if its hidden, no framestack |
| 19:37.26 | Semlar | it'll still be in framestack |
| 19:37.51 | nevcairiel | nah, hidden frames are not |
| 19:37.59 | Iriel | Bah, blizzard's framestack is lame then |
| 19:38.04 | erisna-- | i do |
| 19:38.04 | Iriel | 8-( |
| 19:38.09 | nevcairiel | why would it show hidden frames |
| 19:38.11 | erisna-- | what i should see by this way ? |
| 19:38.17 | nevcairiel | you would like always pick up the worldmap then and shit like that |
| 19:38.24 | Semlar | well it shows invisible frames |
| 19:38.28 | Iriel | there should be a way to see them, so you know they're there. 8-) |
| 19:38.35 | erisna-- | yeah i have no framestack |
| 19:38.37 | Iriel | erisna--: ignore my framestack idea |
| 19:38.38 | nevcairiel | but they are no there, thats the point :D |
| 19:38.42 | nevcairiel | not* |
| 19:38.44 | erisna-- | okay np |
| 19:39.16 | kd3 | sigh. just got a mount from direbrew, and it's the mount I already have >.< |
| 19:39.26 | nevcairiel | i still lack one of them as well |
| 19:39.28 | nevcairiel | i got fed up running |
| 19:39.48 | Fisker | I had all of them last time I played |
| 19:40.08 | Iriel | *Sigh* why has my dog tried to eat a hole in the drywall under my desk |
| 19:40.59 | Fisker | It's free food |
| 19:41.41 | Iriel | He has plenty of food, and i'm not sure drywall is food |
| 19:42.15 | nevcairiel | should've built real walls, then he would only ruin the wallpaper |
| 19:42.42 | VIad | I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with me! |
| 19:42.47 | Iriel | nevcairiel: this is california, drywall is 'real walls' here |
| 19:42.58 | erisna-- | maybe im using a same "local" and i should not |
| 19:43.18 | Iriel | erisna--: Based on the code you pasted it shouldn't matter |
| 19:43.34 | Iriel | (though as a matter of STYLE i'd have declared the local inside the loop, once for each loop, but that's just me) |
| 19:43.36 | erisna-- | ohhhh ! |
| 19:43.39 | erisna-- | or the order! |
| 19:44.01 | erisna-- | function events:SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN() is before function events:UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED in my code |
| 19:44.16 | erisna-- | i dunno |
| 19:44.40 | Iriel | erisna--: you're degenerating into superstition |
| 19:44.55 | erisna-- | haha yeah |
| 19:45.54 | Iriel | Scientific debugging says 1) Disable all other addons 2) Close wow 3) Isolate the problem addon into a single file 4) Restart wow 5) Test and 6) If it's still not working, check the frames dont appear in your layout cache. |
| 19:46.29 | Stanzilla | you're missing x) rant on IRC in between |
| 19:46.45 | Iriel | Stanzilla: The running commentary is a meta-0 |
| 19:46.54 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 19:47.16 | VIad | (watching watchmen, interesting movie, very artsy) |
| 19:53.42 | mikma | also, big blue penis |
| 20:01.32 | VIad | it's pretty ballsy they went that far |
| 20:01.51 | VIad | a lot of nippes and penis shots, nothing blurred |
| 20:02.04 | Iriel | We're adults |
| 20:02.09 | Semlar | speak for yourself |
| 20:02.44 | Gnarfoz | uuhhhhh human body parts! scary. |
| 20:03.00 | VIad | all I know is that nipples on tv is forbidden in the states :d |
| 20:03.38 | Semlar | clearly you haven't seen game of thrones |
| 20:03.46 | erisna-- | Iriel |
| 20:03.48 | Gnarfoz | pay tv |
| 20:03.55 | erisna-- | i just isolated the code |
| 20:03.59 | erisna-- | in a .lua |
| 20:04.12 | erisna-- | and do you know what ? same :) |
| 20:04.23 | erisna-- | so something is wrong in my code |
| 20:04.37 | erisna-- | not elsewhere |
| 20:17.50 | VIad | Semlar: ofc I have but HBO is like special :p |
| 20:18.10 | VIad | probably took a lot of bribing and making their own tv broadcast to get away with nipples and penises |
| 20:18.58 | Semlar | they can show whatever they want on cable, they just don't do it on the majority of stations |
| 20:19.47 | Semlar | if they don't cater to their audience they lose viewers |
| 20:21.24 | VIad | but FCC |
| 20:21.32 | VIad | gotta bribe them |
| 20:21.40 | VIad | probably :p |
| 20:29.38 | VIad | warcraft armies of azeroth looks good |
| 20:29.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Industrial (~industria@a83-163-235-14.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 20:29.50 | VIad | closest we get to wc4 if you ask me:p |
| 20:32.15 | nevcairiel | i looked at the latest video, and the healthbars disappearing mid-combat all the time would totally annoy me |
| 20:33.24 | Dagmar | I've thought about turning mine off |
| 20:33.51 | Dagmar | I'm either fine or I'm dead. |
| 20:34.41 | Dagmar | Like, what 'm I gonna do... see that I'm low and _now_ start worrying about getting out of the fire? |
| 20:35.08 | VIad | nevcairiel: isnt that just what happens when you hold alt? |
| 20:35.15 | VIad | hold alt to show hp bars - like the original |
| 20:35.19 | nevcairiel | no idea, just looked weird in the video |
| 20:35.22 | VIad | yeah :p |
| 20:35.31 | nevcairiel | and enemy health bars should have a different color or something |
| 20:35.33 | VIad | he was just toggling alt, thats it |
| 20:35.36 | VIad | they didnt in wc3 |
| 20:35.39 | nevcairiel | in the big battle at the end it was confused |
| 20:35.45 | VIad | I guess they are recreating the original feeling |
| 20:35.51 | VIad | maybe they will, once done, add adjustment |
| 20:35.55 | VIad | like modernize it a bit |
| 20:36.09 | VIad | i.e. health bar coloring for hostility/faction, scaleable healthbars, e.g. |
| 20:37.55 | Dagmar | Psi-Jack: I was always super-fond of the people who'd come to me saying "We're making a change to our DNS later today. How can we make that happen quickly?" |
| 20:37.57 | Dagmar | @#$@$ |
| 20:59.40 | mckenziemc | updates Dagmar's Channel Name Service. |
| 21:00.12 | Neffi | updoots mckenziemc |
| 21:28.23 | erisna-- | well |
| 21:28.31 | erisna-- | anyone want to earn 10⬠? |
| 21:28.33 | erisna-- | :s |
| 21:28.50 | erisna-- | just to fix a little code, i really can't manage to fix it alone |
| 21:29.33 | Neffi | does anyone happen to have columns UI for foobar2000 and can send me the component dll or package? the site is down |
| 21:30.12 | Stanzilla | I tought that WC3 mod was pretty lame |
| 21:30.42 | Stanzilla | Neffi: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/vmzlfiztbkan7se/foo_ui_columns.dll?dl=0 |
| 21:30.51 | Neffi | i love you |
| 21:33.07 | foxlit | ActionButton_HideOverlayGlow :( |
| 21:33.29 | Stanzilla | don't alert the taint police, foxlit |
| 21:34.32 | foxlit | but it's problematic :( |
| 21:34.56 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel made a lib for that |
| 21:36.01 | foxlit | why who where? |
| 21:36.30 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowace.com/addons/libbuttonglow-1-0/ |
| 21:36.43 | nevcairiel | AB_Show/HideOverlayGlow are evil taint spreaders |
| 21:37.14 | foxlit | an internal array of spare widgets and being called from global updates would do that, yes. |
| 21:38.00 | nevcairiel | the really weird part is that just using the XML template can already cause taint |
| 21:38.15 | nevcairiel | not even the global widget cache |
| 21:38.55 | foxlit | I don't see the weird part. |
| 21:39.51 | nevcairiel | why would using any XML template taint the UI |
| 21:40.00 | nevcairiel | doesnt even have an OnLoad or anything |
| 21:41.00 | Semlar | using an xml template doesn't taint the ui |
| 21:41.16 | nevcairiel | well this one does |
| 21:41.31 | Semlar | which one |
| 21:41.45 | nevcairiel | whatever the one was called for the overlay glow |
| 21:42.09 | Neffi | <Semlar> using an xml template doesn't taint the ui <- might it not? |
| 21:42.21 | Neffi | If the template has some script which touches things on your behalf, that will taint, will it not? |
| 21:42.24 | Semlar | just using a template doesn't taint anything |
| 21:42.32 | nevcairiel | Neffi: i ruled out the scripts |
| 21:42.36 | Semlar | obviously if the template does something to cause taint it would |
| 21:42.39 | nevcairiel | there was something particularly nasty about this one |
| 21:42.43 | foxlit | the definition of using is clearly problematic. |
| 21:42.53 | nevcairiel | I could never understand why half of the UI was tainted just by using that template |
| 21:43.06 | nevcairiel | I did extensive debugging on some PTR build with taintlog 11 |
| 21:43.09 | nevcairiel | funny results |
| 21:44.43 | nevcairiel | ActionBarButtonSpellActivationAlert is the template, i think |
| 21:45.00 | nevcairiel | it has a few scripts in it, but nothing that stores global state or anything |
| 21:45.03 | Neffi | it's probably Semlar's fault |
| 21:45.08 | nevcairiel | and even replacing them right after creation didnt change anything |
| 21:45.15 | nevcairiel | just the CreateFrame call already caused the taint |
| 21:45.32 | erisna-- | anyone can help me please? |
| 21:46.48 | Semlar | could you be more specific |
| 21:47.00 | foxlit | nevcairiel: you wouldn't happen to have a test case of that? |
| 21:47.20 | foxlit | i.e. after I do CreateFrame("Frame", nil, nil, "ActionBarButtonSpellActivationAlert"), what should be broken? |
| 21:47.45 | nevcairiel | get a class with stance bars and an easy way to trigger a glow on an action bar |
| 21:47.54 | nevcairiel | ie. i used a moonkin |
| 21:48.19 | nevcairiel | run createframe, hurt a training dummy until you have a glow up, switch stance |
| 21:48.56 | foxlit | (just switching to a different action bar page might also work, if this is what I ran into earlier) |
| 21:49.04 | nevcairiel | i guess it might |
| 21:49.36 | nevcairiel | your frame needs a name though, the template kinda breaks if it doesnt |
| 21:49.45 | nevcairiel | not sure if that impacts the bug |
| 21:52.06 | foxlit | ended up using "Barf", ActionButton1 instead of nil, nil; doesn't seem to do much. |
| 21:52.58 | nevcairiel | lets see if i can still reproduce it easily myself |
| 21:56.17 | nevcairiel | maybe the problem was also creating them in combat |
| 21:58.50 | erisna-- | sure i can, here my code : http://pastebin.com/h6TeJTds I just want to display trinkets and my interrupt cooldown (command demon spell) near arenaframes, everything is OK i mean trinkets appears, code looks good, but when im in arena my Command demon spell is only appearing on enemyarena5, cant understand why, idd... |
| 21:59.30 | nevcairiel | This was in like 6.0 and 6.1, so even if unlikely, they may have changed something |
| 21:59.40 | nevcairiel | i still feel saver to use my own totally independent lua implementation though |
| 21:59.45 | foxlit | as far as I can see, the animOut and hide handling would be fatal, but that isn't "just creating the template" |
| 21:59.47 | nevcairiel | the APIs still taint of course |
| 22:00.01 | erisna-- | its seems my function events:SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN() doesn't work with my for i = 1, 5 |
| 22:00.08 | erisna-- | thats weird |
| 22:00.38 | nevcairiel | foxlit: of course, back when i used the template still, i replaced those functions |
| 22:00.57 | foxlit | and the script handlers on the animation groups, and on the widgets? |
| 22:00.58 | erisna-- | or it works but i can't see my command demon spell on arena1 until arena4. |
| 22:01.57 | nevcairiel | foxlit: animout:onfinished and the main onhide script are the only ones doing something "evil", but yes, i replaced those two |
| 22:02.16 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt start re-inventing the entire template in pure lua for something silly like that |
| 22:02.35 | erisna-- | another is... this is the lastest thing i need in .lua so i cap pay 10⬠to someone who accept to fix me that "bug" |
| 22:02.43 | erisna-- | another thing* sorry |
| 22:02.54 | erisna-- | i can* even |
| 22:03.00 | erisna-- | omg i don't know how to type |
| 22:03.09 | erisna-- | autoslaps |
| 22:03.44 | nevcairiel | maybe actually using the template caused the taint further down, and it was actually spread in CreateFrame when called from the default UI, my memory is slightly fuzzy, its been like 10 months |
| 22:04.17 | nevcairiel | (using as in starting the animations and whatnot) |
| 22:04.25 | nevcairiel | (with the mentioned functions replaced) |
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| 22:04.53 | erisna-- | :s |
| 22:05.05 | VIad | I am confident that entering and /tar then resetting doesn't work to check if the rare in UBRS has spawned. over 100 tries now, several days, 10 limit per hour checks quite a lot |
| 22:05.35 | Neffi | is the rare close enough to be visible by /target? |
| 22:05.55 | nevcairiel | i would say no |
| 22:06.05 | nevcairiel | did you try /tar'ing the second boss? |
| 22:06.07 | erisna-- | i think im invisible lol |
| 22:06.09 | nevcairiel | thats about the same distance |
| 22:06.14 | nevcairiel | i would say you couldnt |
| 22:06.21 | VIad | yes |
| 22:06.22 | VIad | it worked |
| 22:06.32 | VIad | he is right above the entrance, just one floor above |
| 22:06.54 | VIad | my theory is that the rare spawned when you kill the first boss |
| 22:07.01 | VIad | to counter people like me :P |
| 22:07.05 | Neffi | might be |
| 22:07.24 | VIad | got no data on the subject, nor other peoples observations, didnt find much on google |
| 22:07.30 | mckenziemc | ~erisna---- |
| 22:07.51 | erisna-- | mckenziemc |
| 22:08.14 | mckenziemc | ~karma mckenziemc |
| 22:08.14 | purl | mckenziemc has karma of 3 |
| 22:08.17 | mckenziemc | :o |
| 22:08.30 | VIad | ~karma VIad |
| 22:08.30 | purl | viad has neutral karma |
| 22:08.44 | erisna-- | ~karma erisna-- |
| 22:08.44 | purl | erisna-- has karma of -1 |
| 22:08.48 | erisna-- | ... |
| 22:08.49 | VIad | neutral > hated in my book |
| 22:08.53 | erisna-- | yes thats true |
| 22:08.58 | mckenziemc | :p |
| 22:09.08 | End | ~karma purl |
| 22:09.08 | purl | purl has karma of 46 |
| 22:09.13 | mckenziemc | ~erisna--++ |
| 22:09.17 | mckenziemc | there you go |
| 22:11.58 | foxlit | https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/wut/#q:ActionButton_HideOverlayGlow;s:2 << well, at least it's not just me :( |
| 22:12.31 | nevcairiel | unfortunately a bunch of people use it |
| 22:15.10 | foxlit | isn't LibActionButton-1.0.lua you? :P |
| 22:15.59 | nevcairiel | thats only called in old migration code to potentially hide any old overlays when upgrading existing buttons |
| 22:16.37 | foxlit | so it only breaks everything if someone includes a way-outdated copy. |
| 22:16.56 | nevcairiel | one that wouldnt work on WoD anymore anyway, iirc |
| 22:16.57 | foxlit | and manages to trigger an overlay that early. |
| 22:17.17 | nevcairiel | i'm at version 63 |
| 22:17.21 | nevcairiel | the version checks for < 23 |
| 22:17.23 | nevcairiel | so.. |
| 22:17.24 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 22:17.40 | foxlit | well, could nuke the enture unusedOverlayGlows table from orbit, which should hopefully stop everything. |
| 22:19.58 | mckenziemc | stops foxlit. |
| 22:23.24 | foxlit | it would've been preferable to salvage them by having a non-tainted _AnimOutFinished path via OnFinished, but that dies if the widget was spawned tainted to begin with. |
| 22:25.02 | nevcairiel | its of no consequence anyway, noone can run that old version anymore, i just like to keep the old compat code |
| 22:26.24 | foxlit | nah, just pondering how to fix my problem. I actually call those functions on action buttons that I'm stealing from framexml, so replacing things is a little tricky. |
| 22:26.33 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 22:27.12 | nevcairiel | calling hide on them should trigger the cleanup, but i assume the OnHide is tainted if an addon calls :Hide() ? |
| 22:28.33 | foxlit | execution remains tainted, which is the problem; the handler itself is probably fine. |
| 22:28.48 | nevcairiel | yeah thats what I mean |
| 22:31.17 | nevcairiel | you could replace their scripts and take them out of circulation, its not like all the bars light up at the same time usually, so the loss of frames isnt that bad |
| 22:35.32 | foxlit | I think what would ultimately work is switching to a parallel implementation for managaging the overlay glows that I actually want to display, and hooking framexml's hide function to also hide the parallel stuff. |
| 22:36.12 | nevcairiel | cant suppress the default UIs that way though, unless thats not a problem |
| 22:36.44 | foxlit | as far as the default ui is concerned, those action buttons are showning meaningless macros; they should never glow. |
| 22:37.32 | nevcairiel | then why do you need parallel anyhting |
| 22:37.42 | nevcairiel | can just listen for the events that tell you which spells glow |
| 22:39.25 | foxlit | "as far as the default ui is concerned" |
| 22:40.23 | erisna-- | what does trinkets["arena"..i] = trinket means exactly pls? |
| 22:40.25 | foxlit | meanwhile, the addon might want those buttons to glow ocassionally, so it needs a way to show/hide those glows, and using the framexml api is problematic |
| 22:40.31 | erisna-- | i can't understand the "arena" string |
| 22:41.06 | nevcairiel | use my library, it looks exactly like the original glow, and use whatever logic you need to show or hide them |
| 22:41.14 | nevcairiel | not sure why you would tie it to the default UIs glow |
| 22:41.19 | nevcairiel | by hooking |
| 22:41.51 | foxlit | I'm somewhat concerned that I wouldn't be able to provide the "you should stop glowing this now" trigger in all situations. |
| 22:42.26 | nevcairiel | if the default ui will never make your button glow, then I'm not sure what you mean |
| 22:42.47 | foxlit | the concern is that I might make the button glow, then not notice that it is no longer my button. |
| 22:43.01 | nevcairiel | i g uess that would be weird |
| 22:43.03 | foxlit | keeping the fake glow active. |
| 22:43.17 | nevcairiel | does M6 work with bartender? =p |
| 22:44.44 | foxlit | Don't know. |
| 22:45.18 | nevcairiel | the buttons probably work, but all this fancy feedback wouldnt |
| 22:48.29 | VIad | hmm, the darkmoon rabbit wasnt dangerous at all... |
| 22:48.33 | foxlit | seems to work. |
| 22:48.34 | VIad | just had a lot of hp (40mil) but hit for 30k |
| 22:48.45 | VIad | 30k in tank language is nothing |
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| 22:51.02 | Stanzilla | it's last expansion's content |
| 22:51.05 | Stanzilla | what did you expect |
| 22:51.16 | nevcairiel | I thought they brouight him up to snuff |
| 22:51.48 | VIad | ye |
| 22:51.55 | VIad | thats what I hoped too :p |
| 22:52.18 | Stanzilla | nop |
| 22:52.34 | Stanzilla | wolfguy is the replacement, sorta |
| 22:59.55 | VIad | wolfguy is easy too. but they both drop separate items that people want. |
| 23:03.01 | VIad | I noticed wowhead even had a guide that advised people to realmjump by joining random LFG :p |
| 23:03.21 | VIad | kind of lame when you try to circumvent respawn timers by jumping, I know it happens, but I thought we dont talk about it? :P |
| 23:05.16 | nevcairiel | Everyone does it these days, there are even plenty groups in the new finder for that sole purpose where afk people offer their realm |
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| 23:15.36 | VIad | yeah |
| 23:15.44 | VIad | I wonder if blizz will do something about it |
| 23:15.52 | VIad | it is a bit out of scope what the LFG is really for I guess |
| 23:18.52 | Stanzilla | no |
| 23:23.22 | nevcairiel | its not LFG but the premade group finder, and blizzard intentionally built it to be used for anything |
| 23:23.48 | nevcairiel | they could make it so that you only phase over if you're in the same continent as the leader or some shit, but that would probably run into trouble sooner or later |
| 23:27.18 | nevcairiel | there is already a check that the leader needs to be in the same level segment or higher for it to work, so you cant park a lvl 1 on a low-pop realm or something |
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| 23:39.09 | gre-- | hi |
| 23:39.17 | gre-- | function events:SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN() can i add some args into ? |
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| 23:43.14 | foxlit | I like how curseforge times out creating log events for ticket updates |
| 23:43.42 | foxlit | The actual update goes through, but then something hangs; if you kill the browser request, it won't add a log entry. Magic. |
| 23:45.33 | nevcairiel | yeah that happens sometimes |
| 23:46.10 | nevcairiel | there is a rumor that the new site is supposed to launch after blizzcon |
| 23:46.23 | nevcairiel | although they still didnt fix the things i complained about =p |
| 23:57.41 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.50 | nevcairiel | for an out of combat condition it seems somewhat pointless if you ask me |
