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| 05:01.10 | Simca_ | well I feel dumb |
| 05:02.16 | Simca_ | 90 down/12 up directly connected to modem. 17 down/2 up connected through router, wired (not a wifi problem). |
| 05:04.15 | Dagmar | TWo in the upstream, one in the downstream. |
| 05:04.54 | mckenziemc | it could be worse |
| 05:04.58 | mckenziemc | 90/12 bits per second |
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| 05:06.41 | Simca | power cycled modem/router, hooked computer back up through the router, back to 15 down/2 up |
| 05:06.55 | Simca | some sort of firmware bug probably |
| 05:13.48 | Dagmar | ...or q dodgy cable and the router deciding something needs to be in "ancient crap" mode |
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| 05:20.52 | Semlar | have you tried a different port |
| 05:20.54 | Simca_ | unfortunately not a dodgy cable |
| 05:21.01 | Simca_ | tried a different port too |
| 05:21.07 | karl_w_w | have you plugged the cable into something else? |
| 05:21.25 | Simca_ | i just took it and replaced it with another one |
| 05:21.29 | Simca_ | same result |
| 05:21.42 | Semlar | what kind of router is it |
| 05:21.49 | karl_w_w | maybe you have some crappy thing turned on in your nic like jumbo frames |
| 05:22.10 | Dagmar | THat's not a crappy thing |
| 05:22.22 | Dagmar | Also, it shoudln't degrade the connection _that_ much |
| 05:22.26 | karl_w_w | shouldnt |
| 05:22.38 | Dagmar | Generally it just makes it easier to hit max throughput on a gige circuit |
| 05:22.57 | karl_w_w | but devices can disagree |
| 05:23.11 | Simca_ | netgear wndr3700v1 running ddwrt build 22118 |
| 05:23.19 | Dagmar | It's possible something could be having an attack of extreme stupidity and transmitting _only_ jumbo frames, but that's a binnable offense |
| 05:23.43 | karl_w_w | and if jumbo frames are being sent the the router and the router has to split them it's giving more work to the router |
| 05:23.56 | Dagmar | Oh! login to it and look around if it's running DD-WRT |
| 05:24.17 | Dagmar | This is a much more solvable problem without a paranoid hermit firmware |
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| 05:24.42 | karl_w_w | hermware |
| 05:24.49 | Dagmar | check the interface statistics, fire off tcpdump with -e to check the frame size thing, look for complainy messages in syslog |
| 05:25.47 | Dagmar | Make sure there's not a jilion iptables rules because of some error... the usual chokepoints |
| 05:25.57 | mckenziemc | bins Dagmar. |
| 05:26.12 | Dagmar | It should have ssh and busybox, unlike stuff one might buy from Netgear |
| 05:27.43 | Semlar | well, i found this http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r28767073-Do-not-use-ddwrt-with-150-10-on-netgear-wndr3700 |
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| 05:30.06 | Dagmar | I'm not sure how useful that thread is since it seems to involve a number of housewives and few technical details. :/ |
| 05:30.14 | Dagmar | You already know you have a problem |
| 05:31.26 | Dagmar | Considering the wiki page for that model mentions how to go back to stock, you might try flipping it back to the stock firmware and see if the problem remains |
| 05:31.43 | Dagmar | If it doesn't then you can probably blame dd-wrt |
| 05:32.19 | Dagmar | Stuff like this is why I just buy RPis now |
| 05:32.31 | Simca__ | yeah, it's just going to break my network, since I have another router in the house also running ddwrt, and the two routers are synch'd via WDS |
| 05:32.35 | Semlar | you're sure it's connecting through the cat cable and not wireless, because it could be limiting the power to the antennas |
| 05:32.45 | Dagmar | It might look like you've got a bondage-obsesed squid mating with your cablemodem, but at least it'll have the throughput |
| 05:33.07 | mckenziemc | oh Dagmar |
| 05:33.25 | mckenziemc | what do you use to convert those batteries to the proper voltage for the pi |
| 05:33.27 | Simca__ | Semlar: yeah, this pc doesn't even have wireless |
| 05:33.43 | Dagmar | mckenziemc: There's teensy little charging boards available on Amazon for like $7 |
| 05:34.30 | Dagmar | mckenziemc: If you search Amazon for "usb 5v lithium battery charger" you'll find _several_ |
| 05:36.09 | Dagmar | Actually, "usb 5v charger module" comes up with a more interesting assortment of matches |
| 05:36.39 | mckenziemc | interesting |
| 05:37.00 | Dagmar | I've got this one in my hand right now http://www.amazon.com/Mobile-Charger-module-booster-converter/dp/B00VDPNJ4K/ |
| 05:37.05 | mckenziemc | i need to get my 3d printer finished so i can make Pi cases so i can actually use them >.> |
| 05:37.18 | mckenziemc | i learned to solder today! |
| 05:37.55 | Dagmar | Basically, provided you don't go past the recommended draw on them, you can just about connect as many 3.7v cells in parallel as you'd like |
| 05:38.24 | Dagmar | just... with more cells comes the chance there'll be "interesting" side effects from mismatched capacities if some of the cells are dodgy |
| 05:38.38 | Dagmar | 2-6 cells is probably pretty safe |
| 05:38.43 | Dagmar | 12, maybe not without some isolation |
| 05:39.35 | Dagmar | mckenziemc: Everyone should know how to solder. Good for you. :) |
| 05:41.21 | mckenziemc | the printer sat partially assembled and neglected for a few months partly because i couldn't find my wire strippers >.> |
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| 05:42.34 | mckenziemc | ^ Simca reboot |
| 05:42.55 | mckenziemc | because Simca III would be too many |
| 05:43.25 | Simca | and still no luck. going to try a factory reset + firmware upgrade to latest ddwrt (mine is dated 7/24/13) |
| 05:43.41 | Semlar | SimcaReloaded |
| 05:44.09 | mckenziemc | reboots Semlar |
| 05:44.23 | Semlar | try it without ddwrt before you reinstall it |
| 05:44.53 | Simca | easier to ddwrt to ddwrt to stock than ddwrt to stock to ddwrt |
| 05:45.41 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 05:48.24 | Simca | god damn i'm stupid |
| 05:48.28 | Simca | lol. |
| 05:48.42 | Dagmar | You had one of the cables plugged into a cantelope? |
| 05:48.58 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/wf7Qvg3.png |
| 05:49.00 | Semlar | he clearly had his own bandwidth capped |
| 05:49.08 | Simca | basically, Semlar |
| 05:49.32 | Fisker | hey Simca |
| 05:49.32 | Fisker | e |
| 05:49.33 | Fisker | y |
| 05:49.56 | Dagmar | Okay... what you have is a "unfortunate timing" with your drinking. |
| 05:50.07 | Dagmar | That you _found_ that says you're not stupid. |
| 05:50.08 | mckenziemc | hurls a cantaloupe at Dagmar. |
| 05:50.14 | Simca | lol |
| 05:50.53 | Dagmar | ...also that there were no cantalopes using all your bandwidth. |
| 05:51.28 | mckenziemc | closer... |
| 05:51.46 | mckenziemc | :p |
| 05:51.54 | Simca | back in the day when I had a 19 down/2.27 up connection, I imagine QoS was pretty useful |
| 05:52.39 | Simca | but maybe i should just leave it off if i'm going to forget about it when i upgrade |
| 05:53.05 | mckenziemc | why would you do that |
| 05:54.21 | Simca | why not |
| 05:56.16 | mckenziemc | https://imgur.com/haepy7S |
| 05:57.11 | Simca | trying to play WoW on a connection like that without using QoS would be awful |
| 05:57.14 | Fisker | hey Simca http://www.speedtest.net/result/4651070154.png |
| 05:57.35 | Simca | i am satisfied anyway Fisker |
| 05:57.44 | Simca | my connection speed increased by a factor of 5 |
| 05:58.00 | mckenziemc | QoS should be a given |
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| 06:00.39 | Simca | mckenziemc: defaults to Off on virtually all commercial routers |
| 06:01.09 | Simca | and unless you're getting a high-end router, the QoS implementation is probably shit too |
| 06:01.28 | Simca | that's one of the two reasons I didn't use the netgear firmware |
| 06:01.52 | mckenziemc | i mean the general idea, not current implementations / bandwidth strategy |
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| 06:15.54 | kd3 | hahaha, wth |
| 06:15.57 | kd3 | traceroute bad.horse |
| 06:17.11 | mckenziemc | traceroute old.kd3 |
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| 07:07.15 | Dagmar | kd3: Traceroute funnery is even better when it's unexpected |
| 07:07.40 | Dagmar | kd3: I used to make it look like my packets were being routed through some .mil stuff in DC, just to get the script kiddies worked up. |
| 07:07.54 | kd3 | heh |
| 07:08.11 | Dagmar | I also got a few panicked phone calls from my friends, but hey... lessons learned. |
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| 08:47.00 | Fisker | tackles Cairenn softly with his arms |
| 08:47.13 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
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| 11:52.56 | zenzelezz | recommmend watching "Patent 986" - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2497840/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 |
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| 13:19.13 | karl_w_w | okay i did it guiz, i uninstalled java |
| 13:23.53 | karl_w_w | of course i havent used anything java in about 5 years so... |
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| 13:45.47 | zenzelezz | I guess your banks didn't use a shared login system based on Java |
| 13:46.26 | zenzelezz | we just finally got rid of that a year or two ago, caused so much trouble, especially with 90% of the users not knowing how to update Java, or to uncheck "install Ask Toolbar" |
| 13:47.56 | zenzelezz | also, how are you going to run Azureus now?! |
| 13:48.36 | haste | BankID mobile was released in 2013 and BankID without Java was released autumn 2014 |
| 13:49.14 | haste | actually |
| 13:49.22 | haste | mobile was released in 2011 |
| 13:49.36 | haste | so we've had javaless login since 2011 :P |
| 13:50.07 | zenzelezz | mobile was tied to only some operators |
| 13:51.12 | haste | two operators supported it in 2011, talkmore and telenor |
| 13:51.19 | haste | most of the others joined in 2013 |
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| 14:01.57 | karl_w_w | i havent used azureus since long before it was no longer known as azureus |
| 14:02.45 | zenzelezz | Azureus was my first torrent client, and it damn near became my last |
| 14:02.53 | karl_w_w | although that was probably the last thing i used java for that i actually cared about |
| 14:03.01 | karl_w_w | in fact probably the only thing |
| 14:04.08 | zenzelezz | to the best of my knowledge, if you don't count Android, the only Java program I've used for some time was an internal test tool from another company for a project we were working on. Being Java it only worked on Windows |
| 14:04.48 | zenzelezz | but these days programs can sometimes masquerade well enough to not smell of Java if you don't go looking |
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| 16:26.21 | Fisker | "hugs" Cairenn |
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| 17:16.50 | karl_w_w | https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Gaming-PC-vs-Space-Heater-Efficiency-511/ |
| 17:18.20 | zenzelezz | letÍ's not forget the monitors as well |
| 17:19.02 | karl_w_w | a monitor would be less efficient |
| 17:19.18 | zenzelezz | oh, is it about cost efficiency? |
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| 17:25.06 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 17:28.58 | karl_w_w | yes |
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| 18:17.36 | Dagmar | karl_w_w: PCs were pretty much what we used to heat the apartment when I was in SFO |
| 18:17.45 | Dagmar | That article doesn't really surprise me. hehe |
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| 18:32.01 | kullervo | wtf I just got a Goren invasion from doing Ogre missives |
| 18:32.11 | kullervo | Can such a thing even be possible |
| 18:33.37 | disc | :p |
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| 18:37.09 | kullervo | you here.. What |
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| 19:01.44 | mckenziemc | karl_w_w: this is why i run BOINC only in the winter |
| 19:03.10 | mckenziemc | and a monitor wouldn't be less efficient, that light still ends up as heat eventually |
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| 19:12.39 | karl_w_w | light passes through windows mckenziemc |
| 19:14.29 | mckenziemc | some yes |
| 19:14.50 | mckenziemc | not very much of the total monitor wattage though |
| 19:17.07 | karl_w_w | also some will cause fluorescence and be lost as radiation :D |
| 19:20.32 | karl_w_w | but do you know what's really awesome? this band name, Maximum the Hormone. it's like something out of Scott Pilgrim |
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| 19:44.50 | Dagmar | I'd so do Ramona Flowers. |
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| 22:01.08 | sylvanaar | You know when you try to use the first language in your language menu it doesn't work |
| 22:01.21 | sylvanaar | Like I can't speak orcish, but i can speak tauren |
| 22:01.48 | sylvanaar | Goes all the way down to the API level, i tried just a raw SendChatMessage |
| 22:02.38 | sylvanaar | anyone else see this? |
| 22:11.08 | foxlit | not terribly exciting. |
| 22:12.18 | foxlit | default faction languages aren't specially tagged, because seeing [Orcish] before every message would be lame. |
| 22:16.46 | nevcairiel | yeah orcish or common for alliance is just the default language |
| 22:16.52 | nevcairiel | everyone speaks it if they dont speak anything else |
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| 22:56.31 | sylvanaar | oh, well, then all is well |
| 22:58.14 | sylvanaar | i think if I was testing alliance I would have noticed it was the default. i'm getting rusty |
| 22:59.28 | sylvanaar | people report so many unreproducable bugs to me. I should know better. |
| 22:59.55 | sylvanaar | like that /tar doesn't work, never had an issue. don't know what's up with some people's /tar command |
| 23:08.33 | Dagmar | Maybe they're trying to use it on a zip monster |
| 23:08.58 | zenzelezz | love Neil deGrasse Tyson. "Resist the Hype: The size of today's 'Super' moon is to next month's full moon as a 16.07 inch pizza is to a 16.00 inch pizza" |
| 23:09.47 | Dagmar | I'm hoping to find a bar full of idiots that might believe I can destroy the moon. |
| 23:10.17 | zenzelezz | I wish I could say that you're unlikely to be able to find such a place |
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| 23:17.01 | Dagmar | Well, at least I have plenty of time to prepare a sufficiently bizarre-looking laser-cannon for the next one |
