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| 00:08.18 | foxlit | (you kind of need exact symbol names, including capitalization. I used to do case-insensitive searching, but that gets awkward by merging data from multiple case-distinct globals) |
| 00:09.03 | foxlit | things like https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/wut/#q:loadAddon vs https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/wut/#q:LoadAddOn |
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| 00:10.42 | Neffi | "loadAddon" oh lord |
| 00:13.22 | foxlit | https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/wut/#q:_;s:2 is also sad. |
| 00:14.36 | tz | hmmm, they global uses? I need to fix something then >_< |
| 00:15.10 | Semlar | how did you determine which addons to load into the database |
| 00:15.27 | Semlar | popularity? |
| 00:15.55 | tz | surely not, my shit wouldn't be there if that was the case |
| 00:16.03 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 00:16.14 | Semlar | mine aren't :( |
| 00:16.16 | foxlit | tz: the reads/writes are |
| 00:16.26 | foxlit | Semlar: I believe it requires that you actually publish your addons, though. |
| 00:16.29 | Semlar | :O |
| 00:16.34 | Semlar | I HAVE ADDONS |
| 00:16.39 | Torhal | I don't believe you. |
| 00:16.40 | foxlit | sure you do. <3 |
| 00:16.43 | tz | nods, it's correct, I overlooked it |
| 00:16.45 | Semlar | maybe |
| 00:16.46 | Torhal | I think you have a series of Weak Auras. |
| 00:16.54 | Semlar | is the game still on 6.2 |
| 00:17.08 | Semlar | of course it is, it's in the chat title |
| 00:17.56 | Semlar | nobody downloads my stupid addons so they probably don't even show up in a search |
| 00:18.13 | foxlit | but more seriously, it's things that are published on Curse that have been updated after some cut-off date and have a non-Alpha/Beta release. |
| 00:18.19 | Torhal | Your AddOns aren't stupid; they're imaginary. |
| 00:18.30 | Semlar | hey, i updated this in.. june |
| 00:19.29 | foxlit | the other possibility is that your addons don't interact with anything? :P |
| 00:19.43 | Semlar | are these just globals? |
| 00:19.47 | mckenziemc | squares Torhal. |
| 00:20.03 | foxlit | I buried the lead in the placeholder text for the search box |
| 00:20.19 | foxlit | globals, widgets, templates, events, libraries, that sort of thing. |
| 00:20.41 | foxlit | https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/wut/#q:EXTEND_RAID_LOCK << there, I found at least one Semlar thing. |
| 00:20.43 | Semlar | you said widget twice |
| 00:20.58 | Semlar | you must really like widgets |
| 00:21.14 | Semlar | i can't blame you, it's a great word |
| 00:21.37 | Torhal | replaces Semlar with a POI widget. |
| 00:21.47 | Semlar | okay that addon does overwrite some globals |
| 00:22.05 | Semlar | and was uploaded sometime in the last century |
| 00:24.02 | Stanzilla | do you hear the bell? |
| 00:24.03 | Stanzilla | SHAME |
| 00:24.08 | mckenziemc | replaces Torhal with a POS widget. |
| 00:24.38 | foxlit | https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/stats/ now links into wut as well. |
| 00:24.57 | Torhal | replaces mckenziemc with a POS. |
| 00:25.16 | Torhal | wut |
| 00:26.35 | foxlit | maybe I should add library/event stats. |
| 00:26.44 | Semlar | https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/20444/Blizzard_ObjectiveTracker/Blizzard_AchievementObjectiveTracker.lua#25 :| |
| 00:27.33 | foxlit | there's at least one person with access to framexml who keeps doing that. |
| 00:27.38 | Semlar | you should make these links actually link to the file if it's in framexml |
| 00:28.35 | Semlar | otherwise you have to like click a couple times and that's a lot of work |
| 00:30.18 | foxlit | mm, maybe. |
| 00:30.46 | Semlar | okay someone over there clearly thinks _ is not a real variable |
| 00:32.28 | Semlar | it's being used as a placeholder for.. i guess nil, in like 5 different files |
| 00:32.29 | Torhal | Neffi isn't a real boy, Semlar. |
| 00:32.44 | Neffi | yes I am! |
| 00:32.47 | Neffi | anatomy grows |
| 00:32.55 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 00:33.00 | foxlit | https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/wut/#q:LibWindow-1.1 |
| 00:33.52 | mckenziemc | removes Neffi's tumor. |
| 00:33.58 | Semlar | it's not a tumor |
| 00:34.17 | Neffi | l( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 00:34.19 | Torhal | Neffi is a Tickle Me Elmo. |
| 00:34.33 | Neffi | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 00:36.12 | mckenziemc | what does that make Torhal? |
| 00:36.36 | foxlit | https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/wut/#q:C_ToyBox.SetFilterString << also detects secure hooks. |
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| 00:37.28 | Semlar | https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/wut/#q:TakeTaxiNode |
| 00:38.04 | foxlit | hm? |
| 00:39.01 | Semlar | all these hookers |
| 00:39.56 | Torhal | Your trunk isn't big enough, Semlar. |
| 00:40.06 | Semlar | for all this junk? |
| 00:40.35 | Torhal | Semlar: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130608173032AAUoeBs |
| 00:41.24 | Torhal | Also, Semlar - https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/off-topic-discussion/can-we-just-agree-that-the-universal-measurement-for-trunk-space-is-dead-body-capacity/36233/page1/ |
| 00:41.50 | Torhal | Though, really, this is more Neffi's topic. |
| 00:42.25 | Neffi | :| |
| 00:42.45 | Torhal | What? |
| 00:55.25 | fewyn | i bought an iphone 6 today |
| 00:55.42 | fewyn | it's interesting |
| 00:56.12 | mckenziemc | more importantly: you sold your soul today |
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| 00:58.49 | fewyn | been there done that mckenziemc, my day job is tier 1 ios tech support |
| 00:59.22 | mckenziemc | eww |
| 00:59.40 | mckenziemc | why didn't you tell us earlier you were an untouchable |
| 01:01.28 | fewyn | i've been at it for 3 months |
| 01:01.33 | fewyn | now is crunch time though |
| 01:01.37 | fewyn | i'm working 50 hours this week |
| 01:01.58 | fewyn | might squeeze a couple more out of me too |
| 01:02.13 | fewyn | new iphones are available finally on friday |
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| 01:18.17 | mckenziemc | hmm, nap or coffee :( |
| 01:20.27 | tz | coffee IV while napping |
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| 01:29.42 | Amarande | mckenziemc: at least we have souls to sell ... apparently human overpopulation is getting to the point where some people aren't even being born with souls anymore |
| 01:29.53 | Amarande | Martin Shkreli, for instance |
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| 01:57.18 | Fisker | Hey Seerah |
| 01:57.35 | Fisker | sneaks a can't sleep hug from Cairenn |
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| 02:05.07 | mckenziemc | sneaks Fisker's hug from Cairenn. |
| 02:05.11 | mckenziemc | hugs Cairenn. |
| 02:10.21 | Seerah | hihi, Fisker |
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| 02:11.33 | Fisker | Stop laughing at me :( |
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| 02:52.55 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker and mckenziemc |
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| 03:22.42 | Fisker | packs Cairenn and goes to work |
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| 03:55.31 | jleclanche | Cairenn: https://i.imgur.com/UXCBWlW.gifv |
| 03:55.45 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 03:55.51 | Cairenn | silly cat |
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| 05:06.32 | Fisker | :( Cairenn |
| 05:06.38 | Cairenn | ? |
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| 08:25.01 | jleclanche | Fisker: https://www.reddit.com/r/itsaunixsystem/comments/3lxhu5/useful_those_hacking_progressbars_these_days_as/cva8t5f |
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| 08:38.07 | Phixion | nice jleclanche |
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| 10:21.03 | erisna-- | hello |
| 10:21.40 | erisna-- | im making a little script atm, i display an icon if im spec Affliction but id like to change that icon for another if im spec Destro |
| 10:22.07 | erisna-- | problem is : how can i automatically reload ui in the code to refresh that icon pls? |
| 10:24.06 | erisna-- | if (currentSpecName == "Affliction") then texture:SetTexture("Interface\\Icons\\spell_warlock_focusshadow") elseif (currentSpecName == "Destruction") then texture:SetTexture("Interface\\Icons\\spell_shadow_rainoffire") |
| 10:26.33 | erisna-- | any idea ? |
| 10:26.33 | [TOM_RUS] | watch for spec change event |
| 10:26.36 | erisna-- | thx |
| 10:28.12 | karl_w_w | you don't need to reload ui, just set the sexture when the event fires |
| 10:29.12 | erisna-- | yea but i need an event |
| 10:29.15 | erisna-- | it seems to be ACTIVE_TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED |
| 10:30.59 | karl_w_w | or PLAYER_SPECIALIZATION_CHANGED |
| 10:31.29 | erisna-- | or f:RegisterEvent'PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD' maybe ? |
| 10:31.47 | [TOM_RUS] | also, don't use localized spec names, use spec id's instead or your stuff won't work for someone on different client locale |
| 10:31.55 | erisna-- | yes i need that one too |
| 10:32.45 | erisna-- | ok [TOM_RUS] |
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| 11:13.24 | erisna-- | ok well |
| 11:13.32 | erisna-- | i managed to do everything i wanted |
| 11:13.50 | erisna-- | can you guys just tell me if something looks wrong pls ? http://pastebin.com/fSbYG2wJ |
| 11:14.20 | erisna-- | it works well |
| 11:18.25 | erisna-- | [TOM_RUS] is the code good about you? |
| 11:18.42 | erisna-- | do you see a mistake somewhere ? |
| 11:18.53 | erisna-- | i just need a validation |
| 11:23.17 | erisna-- | now im trying to set currentSpec id like you said |
| 11:23.25 | erisna-- | would be better |
| 11:37.23 | erisna-- | final script : http://pastebin.com/wUy9rbTc |
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| 11:39.49 | erisna-- | mmhh forgot to delete currentSpec local |
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| 12:33.07 | Fisker | also nice jleclanche |
| 12:36.23 | [TOM_RUS] | erisna--, you still not using specid (GetSpecializationInfo returns specid), hardcoding spell names is bad idea too (use spell id's and GetSpellInfo), also player class check could be useful so your stuff doesn't run when not needed |
| 12:38.01 | erisna-- | i cant get spellid with UnitBuff |
| 12:38.54 | erisna-- | i tried to code : UnitBuff("player", GetSpellInfo(74434)) for example |
| 12:39.35 | erisna-- | but for that spell (soulburn buff) it doesn't work if the game is in french (french accents are the problem i guess) |
| 12:39.57 | erisna-- | same for demonic circle: summon |
| 12:40.16 | erisna-- | for other spells, GetSpellInfo() works well with UnitBuff |
| 12:40.44 | [TOM_RUS] | weird, it should work |
| 12:41.22 | erisna-- | thats why i add spell names into my localization.lua, and i translated them there |
| 12:41.36 | erisna-- | i added* |
| 12:41.44 | erisna-- | yeah very weird |
| 12:42.13 | foxlit | in short, your code is uniformly miserable, but if it works for what you're trying to use it for, it's easier to let it slide and hope you'll absorb the relevant insights by osmosis over the next few years. |
| 12:43.40 | erisna-- | :/ |
| 12:46.26 | erisna-- | "uniformly miserable" thank you lol |
| 12:46.38 | erisna-- | my first script actually |
| 12:48.23 | foxlit | "uniformly miserable" is par for the course for first scripts, so everything's fine :) |
| 12:48.47 | erisna-- | ;) |
| 12:50.31 | foxlit | creating widgets is misery in Lua, but you should probably still keep code related to the same object together; the jump between texture and frame anchors/alpha is jarring |
| 12:50.54 | foxlit | SetSize would both SetHeight and SetWidth in one call |
| 12:51.14 | foxlit | SetAllPoints without an argument defaults to the parent frame. |
| 12:51.45 | foxlit | ACTIVE_TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED doesn't use provide a unit as its first argument, so you're never handling that event. |
| 12:52.36 | erisna-- | frame1:SetSize(32,32) ok |
| 12:52.41 | foxlit | your if is on specGroup, but that's a number indicating whether you're in your primary or secondary spec, not what that spec actually is. currentSpec and currentSpecName is unused. |
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| 12:53.09 | foxlit | you call UnitBuff in the inner ifs despite having just called it with the same arguments to initalize some locals; this is redundant. |
| 12:53.15 | erisna-- | yeah i removed currentSpec and currentSpecName |
| 12:53.26 | foxlit | L["Dark Intent"] but "Pluie de feu" |
| 12:53.49 | foxlit | the frame1:SetAlpha logic should probably be in the cooldown's OnHide/OnShow. |
| 12:53.56 | erisna-- | Pluie de feu was a test, just to see if the icon is changing when im speccing destro instead of affli |
| 12:54.03 | erisna-- | i will fix that |
| 12:54.16 | foxlit | if the buff drops unexpetedly, your cooldown animation will continue. |
| 12:55.25 | erisna-- | thanks for your bilan |
| 12:55.30 | foxlit | (and localizing spell names, per [TOM_RUS], is folly; use GetSpellInfo) |
| 12:55.31 | erisna-- | it helps me |
| 12:59.42 | foxlit | (UnitBuff("player", GetSpellInfo(74434)) and UnitBuff("player", (GetSpellInfo(74434))) are semantically different) |
| 12:59.55 | erisna-- | ah ? |
| 13:00.00 | erisna-- | i tried the first |
| 13:00.32 | erisna-- | i didn't try UnitBuff("player", (GetSpellInfo(74434))) |
| 13:02.05 | erisna-- | omg... it works.. |
| 13:02.07 | erisna-- | okay |
| 13:03.14 | Gnarfoz | sweet, sweet success |
| 13:06.27 | erisna-- | <foxlit> ACTIVE_TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED doesn't use provide a unit as its first argument |
| 13:06.54 | erisna-- | you mean i should type something like : self.:RegisterEvent("ACTIVE_TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED") |
| 13:06.57 | erisna-- | ? |
| 13:07.03 | erisna-- | oops |
| 13:07.11 | erisna-- | self.RegisterEvent i meant |
| 13:11.36 | foxlit | no, I mean that your event handler checks if the first argument of the event is "player", which is never the case for ACTIVE_TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED, so it always choses to bail. |
| 13:23.12 | erisna-- | ok i removed local unitid = ... if unitid ~= "player" then return end |
| 13:23.17 | erisna-- | thats what you mean |
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| 14:07.44 | erisna-- | http://pastebin.com/Q9jwyXeq cant do better |
| 14:08.06 | erisna-- | thanks for your help foxlit but i have to learn more to apply everything you said |
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| 15:01.45 | zenzelezz | I wonder how many reports like this MS gets every week: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2015/09/23/10643223.aspx |
| 15:04.30 | Dagmar | Probably rather often, considering the low-barrier to entry |
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| 16:28.56 | karl_w_w | so I went down to the shop to get ben & jerry's because it is heavily discounted |
| 16:29.13 | karl_w_w | and there was a guy there filling his shopping trolley with tubs of it |
| 16:29.23 | karl_w_w | literally the whole trolley |
| 16:29.38 | karl_w_w | it looked like he emptied a whole freezer |
| 16:30.29 | g0urra | did he? |
| 16:32.30 | karl_w_w | well there were 4 freezers of B&Js, and the one he was in front of was empty :P |
| 16:40.30 | Dagmar | Tell him about Ingress. ;) |
| 16:41.07 | Dagmar | When new flavors come out, things get bad for our local smurfs, cuz I really like Benn & Jerry's |
| 16:41.26 | Dagmar | ...which means I'll be out stomping on their stuff for a few hours |
| 16:41.36 | Dagmar | I ain't passin 200lbs again |
| 16:42.29 | Dagmar | We ran into some of them outside the local B&J a month or so back, and at least one of them was visible concerned I might be going inside the store. :) |
| 16:42.37 | Dagmar | They's payin' attention. :) |
| 16:44.48 | Jammer_ | "local smurfs" ... what does that even mean? |
| 16:49.39 | karl_w_w | a smurf is an alt account |
| 16:56.43 | Dagmar | Ingress is an AR game that has two factions, which are coloquially referred to as "frogs" and "smurfs" |
| 16:57.04 | Dagmar | Being an AR game, it means you have to actually get off the couch and go somewhere in person to get things done |
| 16:57.36 | Dagmar | Most players are pretty casual about it, but it's _very_ useful as exercise. We've got more than a few players who've lost 20-100 pounds from playing |
| 16:58.02 | Dagmar | It's not a matter of being unwilling to exercise, but a lack of _interest_ for a folks |
| 16:58.21 | Dagmar | Imagine how physically fit the WoW playerbase would be if they had to walk 10 blocks to get their justice points for the week |
| 16:58.24 | VIad | so if you kill archimonde and he dies while you have the nether banish, the removal of the debuff makes it actually TP you inside :P http://ss.bool.no/capture_1443027497.png |
| 16:59.03 | Dagmar | Vlad: Doh! |
| 16:59.43 | Dagmar | So... if I buy a pint of Ben & Jerry's I'm going to eat it. There should be no doubt. Mayflies live longer than ice cream in my fridge |
| 17:00.03 | Dagmar | ...which means to offset that, I'm going to be doing about 2-3 hours of stomping over hill and dale, making life hell for the other faction |
| 17:01.45 | Dagmar | After about the third time I posted a pic of some new enviable flavor I'd found and then spent the next night destroying one of their farm areas, a few of the smarter smurfs realized the direct causal relationship between the destruction of their assets and the amount of ice cream I eat |
| 17:02.23 | Dagmar | Now if I want them to freak out, I can just post a pic of some ice cream to my Facebook or G+ |
| 17:02.26 | Dagmar | :) |
| 17:02.41 | haste | it sounds like you are playing for the wrong faction |
| 17:02.59 | Dagmar | No, I'm playing for the "Enlightened" faction, which is fairly appropriate |
| 17:03.08 | haste | no, that's the wrong one :D |
| 17:03.32 | Dagmar | Heck I can keep them all on edge for night ops if I post anything about caffeine drinks |
| 17:03.59 | Dagmar | "Shit. Dagmar will still be awake. It's only 2am. Crap crap crap." |
| 17:04.44 | Dagmar | About a dozen incidents of them doing something 20 minutes before checkpoint, within 10 minutes of my house taught them to be wary of operational security failures on my side of town |
| 17:05.17 | Dagmar | Will I get in the car and drive 8 minutes to smash someone's deployment at 3am? If I'm up, you bet I will. |
| 17:06.13 | foxlit | why? |
| 17:06.36 | Dagmar | Because it's only an 8 minute drive for me, and usually a 20-40 minute drive for 3-4 players on the other side. |
| 17:06.41 | Dagmar | Attrition, yao. |
| 17:06.45 | Dagmar | s/yao/yo/; |
| 17:07.17 | foxlit | sounds like a collosal waste of time and resources for no real benefit. |
| 17:07.32 | haste | it really depends on how you play the game |
| 17:07.34 | Dagmar | Our side _regularly_ wins the measurement periods for the region because we play smarter, not harder |
| 17:07.43 | haste | I just walk around and enjoy myself |
| 17:07.46 | haste | or maybe bike |
| 17:07.54 | Dagmar | I only _seldom_ drive somewhere _just_ to play Ingress |
| 17:08.09 | haste | I never drive anywhere to just play ingress :D |
| 17:08.15 | Dagmar | If I have an errand to run on the other side of town, however... NINJA STRIEK! |
| 17:08.34 | Dagmar | ...and they're all "Crap crap crap why is Dagmar over here?!?! What are the frogs up to!?!?!" |
| 17:08.54 | haste | it also sounds like you have like.. ten players in your town :D |
| 17:09.04 | Dagmar | 100 or so regulars actually |
| 17:09.16 | Dagmar | Proabbly 300 who barely count as a filthy casual |
| 17:09.24 | Dagmar | Lots and lots of useless derp links |
| 17:09.41 | Dagmar | ...but those of use who capitalize on all that noise on the playfield are very, very good at doing so |
| 17:09.52 | haste | think we're around 250-300 active on resistance alone |
| 17:10.02 | haste | + whatever people not on G+/slack yet |
| 17:10.09 | Dagmar | It's so bad here there's a park with abotu 100 portals in it that stay at level 8 6 days out of 7. |
| 17:10.13 | Dagmar | It odesn't help the smurfs |
| 17:10.30 | haste | Oslo is mostly split into camps these days |
| 17:10.36 | Dagmar | They'd have to be able to know what a triangle looks like first. |
| 17:10.45 | haste | depending on how active the factions are in that area |
| 17:10.52 | Dagmar | You're in Oslo? You might have met Catwoman1 this summer then. :) |
| 17:11.15 | Dagmar | It's _bad_ when we are traveling together |
| 17:11.38 | haste | I was mostly out of town in june and in japan all of july :P |
| 17:11.42 | Dagmar | We'll go link amp people's desk portals in a heartbeat |
| 17:11.46 | haste | so didn't really play much in Oslo during the summer |
| 17:12.10 | Dagmar | Run out to some portal deep in banjo country just for the uniques |
| 17:12.56 | haste | way too far until the next unique visits badge, so cba to do such |
| 17:13.07 | Dagmar | I think we've already blown any value having the smurfs *think* we're having a date night |
| 17:13.27 | Dagmar | We've pulled that a few times when we knew they were planning an op |
| 17:13.59 | Dagmar | Not even in a subtle way either... Literally 15 minutes before they'd have to do their thing, we'd be in the middle of nowhere setting up blocks |
| 17:14.15 | Dagmar | A hundred miles or more from where we were expected to be |
| 17:14.24 | Dagmar | suprise! :) |
| 17:15.45 | haste | most of the ops here are about covering oslo in a field and that can be executed fairly easily |
| 17:16.09 | Dagmar | There's too much sprawl around Nashville to make that happen easily |
| 17:16.18 | haste | enl did manage to cover up all of norway once tho' |
| 17:16.21 | haste | that was pretty nice |
| 17:16.30 | Dagmar | It's good for a few million MU, but I tend to avoid getting involved in "septicycle killers". |
| 17:16.31 | haste | but it also costed them a couple of plane tickets to Svalbard |
| 17:17.02 | Dagmar | I kinda think septicycle killers are bad for the game, since they'll discourage the other side from doing _anything_ |
| 17:17.20 | Dagmar | ...or drive them to the point where they think they have to cheat to even have a chance. |
| 17:17.30 | haste | I don't think people care that much about the cycles :P |
| 17:17.45 | Dagmar | There's usually a small fraction of the playerbase who _only_ care about the cycles |
| 17:17.59 | Dagmar | I could care less about any given patch of 10MU |
| 17:18.06 | Dagmar | ...or farms for that matter. |
| 17:18.13 | haste | https://plus.google.com/+KentLong/posts/e9KhLcaWVPi this was the norway field btw |
| 17:18.32 | Fisker | Hey haste |
| 17:18.40 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 17:18.41 | Dagmar | haste: nice |
| 17:18.51 | haste | which nexus phone are you getting Fisker |
| 17:19.08 | Fisker | Always 6P |
| 17:19.15 | Dagmar | haste: We tend to lean hard on people who travel for vacation |
| 17:19.39 | haste | doesn't help much here :P |
| 17:19.43 | Dagmar | haste: More than once someone's gone off on their trip and been met at the airport by 2-3 locals they've never seen before. :) |
| 17:19.56 | Dagmar | ...or even knew they were meeting until they were already in the air, actually. hehe |
| 17:20.29 | Dagmar | It's such a small thing to hand a bunch of keys to someone else... and if they happen to come in handy in the next year... great! |
| 17:20.50 | haste | doubt anyone would hold on to keys for one year :DDD |
| 17:20.54 | Dagmar | I have |
| 17:21.03 | haste | things get used fairly quickly here |
| 17:21.26 | Dagmar | There's an extremely small fraction of the players who are very organized and _very_ well connected |
| 17:21.30 | Dagmar | Catwp,am |
| 17:22.02 | Dagmar | Catwoman's got a small pile of keys from Ireland, and can get them to people on the eastern seaboard in about 72 hours without anyone having to make a special trip |
| 17:22.21 | Dagmar | I've got keys for a few of the major cities 5-6 hours from here |
| 17:22.43 | Dagmar | Just got some in for the anomaly stuff this fall, actually. None of those are happening anywhere near here |
| 17:23.01 | Dagmar | ...but when the time comes I expect to burn about 200 power cubes |
| 17:23.08 | Dagmar | ...if not twice that |
| 17:24.06 | haste | only thing I feel burning during anomalies is shields |
| 17:24.24 | Dagmar | Thank god for those |
| 17:24.37 | Dagmar | If they didn't exist, the number of mule accounts at anomalies would be out of control |
| 17:24.39 | haste | it's easy now with the MUFGs tho' |
| 17:24.52 | Dagmar | I'm 15 minutes away from a >80 portal L8 farm |
| 17:25.05 | haste | I'm sitting on 400 AXA atm due to them |
| 17:25.10 | Dagmar | I can hack a lot more shields in an hour than my MUFGs have any hope of generating |
| 17:25.33 | Dagmar | Mainly I'm trying to breed up a steady supply of very rare heatsinks and multihacks |
| 17:25.46 | haste | I'm never that lucky with hacking AXA and I'm not that often out hacking anymore :P |
| 17:26.04 | haste | my roomate has about 100 of each of them now |
| 17:26.05 | Dagmar | I need about two nights where I can be bothred to care and I'll have onyx translator |
| 17:26.09 | haste | we pretty much use them everywhere these days |
| 17:26.36 | haste | I got lazy after platinum translator :P |
| 17:27.04 | Dagmar | same here. I know I'm going to get it, and there's onlyu like two people in the whole city who stand a chance of beating me to it |
| 17:27.15 | Dagmar | None of us are particularly in a hurry, we just like loot |
| 17:27.51 | Dagmar | 2,200 points away from it now actually |
| 17:28.00 | haste | that's nothing :P |
| 17:28.08 | Dagmar | I know. Two nights of barely caring and I'm there |
| 17:28.11 | haste | then again.. I'm only at 23200 or so now |
| 17:28.25 | Dagmar | Maybe 200 hack attempts if I keep taking these antihistamines. 160 if I stop |
| 17:28.46 | Dagmar | I keep track of that just so I can know more about how badly antihistamines screw me up |
| 17:28.54 | Dagmar | On them, I'm slow and stupid |
| 17:29.07 | Dagmar | Off them I can see in the dark better than cats and I basically don't miss glyphs |
| 17:30.08 | Dagmar | The weather is turning tolerable for me again, so it's nearly time for me to start hassling other players to take gear off my hands on a schedule |
| 17:30.43 | Dagmar | I was just recycling extra loot and recharing stuff for some months during the summer, but that drove the smurfs almost completely out of my side of town which is very boring |
| 17:31.08 | haste | since when did recharging actually help :P ? |
| 17:31.27 | haste | other than before power cubes that is |
| 17:31.32 | Dagmar | Do half a million XM of it every nigth. |
| 17:31.44 | Dagmar | Watch as nothing within 8km of you has a chance to decay on it's own. |
| 17:31.49 | haste | still, you can't defend a portal that someone is taking down |
| 17:31.53 | Dagmar | _Despair_ will set in for the other side |
| 17:32.15 | Dagmar | Well, if they're stupid you can, but mainly, doing 500,000 XM in damage with bursters is a _lot_ of work |
| 17:32.42 | Dagmar | ...but with 600+ keys in my inventory, I can do the opposite of that in about and hour and a half without walking more than a mile |
| 17:32.50 | Dagmar | It has a _profound_ effect over time |
| 17:33.20 | Dagmar | ...and teh best part is that no one can see you're doing it, or even tell it's you doing it. |
| 17:33.48 | Dagmar | All the portals are just magically at full strength every morning, meaning they have to burn all that extra weaponry if they want to take anything. |
| 17:34.46 | haste | yes and no :P |
| 17:35.24 | Dagmar | Oh yes. If a street has 20 portals down it all spaced out, it's not so trivial to take them all out when they're fully charged as it is when they're maintained to "smurfs standards" |
| 17:35.44 | Dagmar | ...which is generally "about to fall over in 3 days anyway" |
| 17:36.23 | Dagmar | Within 8km of my house is what I have about 500 keys for. I've _run out_ of portals to recharge on a couple of nights. |
| 17:36.48 | haste | I'm slightly amazed that you have room for 500 keys :P |
| 17:36.57 | haste | I keep 100 or maybe 200 |
| 17:37.05 | haste | depending on what and where |
| 17:37.33 | Dagmar | I am so often at inventory cap I'm surprised it's not burnt into my screen. MUFGs made me start clearing down to 1950. |
| 17:38.16 | Dagmar | If I should need to go downtown and wipe the entire place clean, I can generally do so twice over, which is more than enough weaponry |
| 17:39.01 | Dagmar | Sometimes I'll get "showy" |
| 17:39.19 | haste | waaaaay too many portals to do that here |
| 17:39.24 | Dagmar | I was really expecting to be accused of being up to something last month because I had wildly too many ultra strikes, so I used just them to clear most of downtown |
| 17:39.58 | Dagmar | So... portal A gets blown away in under 15 seconds, while portal B next to it remains _entirely_ untouched |
| 17:40.33 | Dagmar | I was also fishing to see if anyone was looking that closely |
| 17:40.55 | Dagmar | Surely they'd have said something about someone burning 200 ultrastrikes like that |
| 17:41.32 | Dagmar | ...but 385 L8 ultrastrikes is just way too many to carry around, outside of an anomaly |
| 17:42.28 | haste | even at an anomaly that's insane |
| 17:42.36 | Dagmar | I had and used more than that at the last anomaly |
| 17:42.41 | Dagmar | I'd been stockpiling them for montsh |
| 17:42.52 | Dagmar | jaws will drop when you wipe a portal out right under a dozen people |
| 17:43.02 | haste | had around a 100 with me to utrecth and left with about the same amount |
| 17:43.03 | Dagmar | "Oh, you're redeploying? How cute." |
| 17:43.32 | Dagmar | I've studied the client-server interaction very very carefully. |
| 17:43.39 | haste | anomalies can be a bit too random when it comes to that |
| 17:43.45 | Dagmar | I can absolutely drop a portal right under people _and_ take it at the same time |
| 17:43.46 | haste | the servers tend to break down fairly nicely |
| 17:44.12 | Dagmar | I thought Niatnic was pretty brave about pretending anything was owrking correctly for the Japan anomaly |
| 17:44.29 | haste | no idea about how they went |
| 17:44.31 | Dagmar | Several _thousand_ players all in one place? LOL no |
| 17:44.46 | haste | there was about 3500 in utrecht |
| 17:44.55 | Dagmar | They don't even use ACID compliant transaction methods |
| 17:45.20 | Dagmar | That whole thing was a study in race conditions |
| 17:45.34 | haste | ingress has always been a study in race conditions :P |
| 17:45.41 | haste | doesn't matter much really |
| 17:45.52 | Dagmar | Well, yeah, but... it's a lot better than it was |
| 17:46.11 | Dagmar | "multi-hack" used to have a much different meaning |
| 17:46.36 | haste | they fixed the "two phones" and "hack fast" issue decently fast :P |
| 17:46.50 | Dagmar | Yeah, because it got a lot of exposure, and I helped with that |
| 17:46.59 | Dagmar | Kept that G+ thread good and frothy |
| 17:47.23 | Dagmar | Made sure lots of extra people who wouldn't otherwise know would find out what they can do if they bring their tablet with them |
| 17:48.06 | Dagmar | That should have never been possible in the first place, and should have been dropping bans on people's heads |
| 17:49.00 | Dagmar | I used to accidentally leave my tablet with Ingress going on my desk, and would do some hacking when I went out to lunch... was always astonished I didn't get banned for that |
| 17:49.42 | Dagmar | I'd be looking for a way to force them to stop ignoring that client-side limits are fail if they hadn't recently done a bit more towards eliminatign the broot mod cheaters |
| 17:50.53 | Dagmar | You literally coulnd't take a portal away from a brootmod user, because they could spam instructions to deploy on the portal, instead of being blocked by the client because the portal was the wrong color |
| 17:51.16 | Dagmar | It was starting to get used at anomalies |
| 17:51.21 | haste | you can kinda still do that even with the official client |
| 17:51.45 | Dagmar | You can tap-juggle, which I'm surprised doesn't get you banned for synflooding, actually |
| 17:51.52 | Dagmar | ...but at least that requires some skill and a decent phone |
| 17:52.19 | Dagmar | It's also still a lot slower than spewing 10 deploy instructions per second |
| 17:57.32 | Dagmar | I'll be spilling a number of little secrets about the game at Ingress |
| 17:57.37 | Dagmar | er PhreakNIC |
| 17:57.42 | Dagmar | Some of which I'm sure will make people mad |
| 17:58.40 | Dagmar | I'm still undecided about a few things, because they have the potential to cause harm |
| 18:02.51 | Dagmar | 'cuz basically, there's a few decidedly undetectable and suprisingly low-tech ways of outright cheating |
| 18:03.20 | Dagmar | ...but it's handy to know about them so you can learn to recognize when they're being used and stop trying anything that expects you _can_ defeat them |
| 18:44.42 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/2015-09-23_21-44-31.jpg |
| 18:44.47 | kullervo | gg thanks blizzard, very useful once again |
| 18:45.44 | Stanzilla | fix your fonts :E |
| 18:48.36 | nevcairiel | its a flipping table emoji, give it a break |
| 18:53.58 | kullervo | Stanzilla: what the hell is wrong with my fonts |
| 18:54.14 | kullervo | it displays correctly, thus the font is fine |
| 18:54.32 | kullervo | the square there is blizzard bug |
| 18:54.38 | Stanzilla | I mean the aliasing |
| 18:54.44 | Stanzilla | but I think you already said that you like that |
| 18:54.47 | kullervo | that's your problem not mine |
| 18:55.07 | Stanzilla | (the square is right btw) |
| 18:55.10 | kullervo | aliasing just blurs the fonts pointlessly |
| 18:55.14 | kullervo | :tableflip: |
| 18:55.16 | kullervo | hmm |
| 18:55.18 | kullervo | (ï¾ `д)ï¾ ~â»ââ» |
| 18:55.22 | kullervo | look, no square |
| 18:55.40 | kullervo | Ñ(`д)ï¾ ~ ~ â»ââ» |
| 18:55.47 | kullervo | (*ã»_ã»)ï¾ ï¸µâ ââ |
| 18:58.46 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1443034721.png |
| 18:59.02 | VIad | pidgin has crap utf8 handling on windows - blames gtk |
| 19:06.21 | kullervo | haha |
| 19:06.50 | kullervo | yeah that's crap handling indeed, doesn't even show the code numbers as it should |
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| 21:19.29 | Semlar | hikes torhal 5000% |
| 21:28.24 | Torhal | hikes Neffi's leg in Semlar's general direction. |
| 21:28.35 | Semlar | what are you doing with neffi's leg |
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| 21:34.40 | Hemar | Good evening all |
| 21:35.07 | Hemar | I've recently created a project on CurseForge and I'm wondering how the tagging and/or packager works |
| 21:35.19 | Hemar | I can't seem to create a beta release via the packager |
| 21:35.35 | Hemar | even after tagging my trunk |
| 21:36.12 | Semlar | tags torhal's trunk |
| 21:37.08 | Hemar | trunks Semlar's tag |
| 21:39.31 | Semlar | i don't know anything about anyone's package |
| 21:40.26 | Stanzilla | Hemar: it has to have "beta" in the tag name |
| 21:40.31 | Stanzilla | or you edit the release manually |
| 21:43.16 | Torhal | Hemar: Project link? |
| 21:43.42 | Hemar | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/talentprofile/ |
| 21:44.05 | Hemar | using svn as repo |
| 21:44.14 | Hemar | and v0.1-beta tag exists in /tags |
| 21:44.29 | Torhal | It also existed on the project as a file until it was deleted... |
| 21:45.01 | Hemar | might have been because I've been messing with it I guess |
| 21:45.08 | Torhal | You'll have to make a new tag. Perhaps "v0.1.1-beta" |
| 21:45.20 | Hemar | yeah, was thinking of trying that now |
| 21:45.28 | Torhal | I see "Wrong tag created" as the log message for deletion. |
| 21:45.43 | Hemar | yup, was me messing about :( |
| 21:45.51 | Hemar | well no |
| 21:46.01 | Hemar | I created the tags, but no file was created in "files" menu |
| 21:46.09 | Hemar | so I deleted it and tried to recreate |
| 21:46.22 | Hemar | but then the packager says "Deciding to skip svn repository: wow/talentprofile/mainline, as not updated. " |
| 21:46.48 | Hemar | but I'll try your workaround by creating a 0.1.1-beta tag |
| 21:47.08 | Torhal | Yeah, it's "not updated" because it's already processed a tag by that name. |
| 21:47.41 | Hemar | should I use the "Tag repository" on the site or can I use tortoisesvn for tagging ? |
| 21:48.08 | Torhal | Either should work. |
| 21:48.23 | Hemar | ok, I'll try now and keep you posted |
| 21:51.14 | Hemar | alright, that worked |
| 21:51.32 | Hemar | I'm pretty sure I know where I went wrong before |
| 21:52.00 | Hemar | instead of tagging the trunk, I created a folder in /tags called v0.1-beta (without any content) |
| 21:52.14 | Hemar | the packager did create that zip file but it was empty |
| 21:52.39 | Hemar | deleted that empty zip but then the packager knew that he already processed that tag and never created a new one |
| 21:52.52 | Hemar | I think that's how it went, sounds right? |
| 22:02.56 | Torhal | Hemar: Yah, that's about the gist of it. |
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| 22:07.13 | Hemar | alright Torhal, thanks for the assistance |
| 22:16.50 | Stanzilla | thanks Torhal |
| 22:17.20 | Gnarfoz | thanks Torhal |
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| 22:57.08 | Neffi | <Semlar> what are you doing with neffi's leg <- ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 23:03.26 | Stanzilla | hey Neffi |
| 23:03.36 | Stanzilla | I told Semlar that I got a new bow today, he ignored me :< bad hunterbro |
| 23:03.51 | Neffi | Semlar is so mean |
| 23:03.55 | Neffi | he's a big meanie |
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| 23:34.52 | Semlar | bows don't exist stanzilla |
| 23:35.14 | Dagmar | Everytime I get a bow ten minutes later it always seems to look like a gun |
| 23:35.20 | Stanzilla | mannoroth thought otherwise today |
| 23:35.49 | Stanzilla | pretty lucky that I rolled a 95 in that random raid ^_ ^ |
| 23:36.52 | Semlar | it's okay, i have a lagdoctor now http://gfycat.com/ActiveReadyBluegill |
| 23:37.30 | Semlar | so i don't need a bow |
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| 23:38.18 | nevcairiel | it wasnt even lagging in your video, he just did his port-n-kill move |
| 23:38.56 | Dagmar | Am I misreading something or does the golden figure in the upper right mean it's long past time to talk to the repair NPC? |
| 23:39.28 | Semlar | you clearly don't understand how often i die |
| 23:39.28 | Amarande | Repair NPC? Town? You mean you didn't take Engineering and have a stack of Field Repair Bot 74's on hand? :) |
| 23:39.44 | nevcairiel | just like wow, yellow means close to broken, and red is broken |
| 23:39.51 | Dagmar | Ah okay. |
| 23:40.01 | Dagmar | I typically only see The Crimson Knight of Impending Doom |
| 23:40.10 | Semlar | it's okay, he only hit me for 2 million damage |
| 23:40.28 | Dagmar | Either I've not died for days, or I've died a whole crapload of times in the last hour |
| 23:41.11 | Semlar | my favorite part is that it's not an avoidable attack, he just teleports onto you and you die |
| 23:41.19 | Amarande | heh, wowwiki claims the 110G bot is cheaper than the 74A |
| 23:41.36 | Amarande | ... do they even understand that one word in the 110G's recipe? that one that goes K-H-O-R-I-U-M? LOL |
| 23:41.58 | nevcairiel | scrapbots are the cheapest anyway |
| 23:42.25 | Stanzilla | sure just outrange it, Semlar |
| 23:42.28 | Stanzilla | or line of sight |
| 23:42.32 | Semlar | you can't outrange it |
| 23:42.47 | Semlar | you could maybe attack him from around a corner or something |
| 23:43.20 | Stanzilla | you can outrange it |
| 23:43.24 | Stanzilla | justn eed to run far enough |
| 23:43.37 | Semlar | no you can't, i've had him teleport to someone in my party before on other maps when they were on the other side of the god damn map |
| 23:43.38 | Stanzilla | you can see when the animation starts and just run |
| 23:43.52 | Stanzilla | that only works on open terrain |
| 23:43.58 | Stanzilla | there is almost always something to hide behind |
| 23:44.09 | Semlar | well yeah, then it just means it require LoS which has nothing to do with range |
| 23:44.28 | nevcairiel | Semlar: rift bosses sometimes randomly teleport to other party members if they are spread out, but that wouldnt be his teleporting attack move then |
| 23:44.41 | Semlar | and it goes both ways, it's going to be hard to make the timer if you can't attack him |
| 23:45.48 | Stanzilla | just spirit walk when he does it? |
| 23:46.29 | Semlar | ideally i'd have spirit walk for it |
| 23:47.01 | Semlar | he'd already nearly killed me from his normal melee attack |
| 23:47.58 | Semlar | it wasn't even targeting me, it just has an enormous range |
