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| 00:20.37 | znf | I can't believe this shit. |
| 00:20.45 | znf | I installed a new front-bumper on my car on Sunday |
| 00:20.50 | znf | Today I somehow managed to scratch it |
| 00:20.53 | znf | I've no idea where/how |
| 00:23.29 | Amarande | znf: could be anything, flying dust with a larger than normal rock bit in it, some idiot bumping their shopping cart into it while you're in the store, &c |
| 00:23.40 | znf | nah, it's user fault |
| 00:23.42 | znf | I did it |
| 00:23.51 | znf | It's quite a big scratch and something that looks like cement "dust" |
| 00:23.59 | znf | which is why I can't figure out where the hell did I touch the damn bumper |
| 00:24.15 | znf | and it's like 100⬠for the damn paint job :( |
| 00:24.22 | znf | I was so happy I finally got a new bumper |
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| 01:05.46 | Shirik | my head just exploded |
| 01:06.10 | Shirik | someone just asked on the clang dev list "when it converts the C++ into C" |
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| 01:11.07 | tz | I unsubbed from cfe-dev about a year ago, haven't had any urge to re-sub |
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| 01:25.51 | znf | Shirik, btw, what can I use to convert php to C? |
| 01:26.02 | znf | or maybe bash to C? |
| 01:26.14 | tz | * -> LLVM IR tbh |
| 01:28.22 | znf | or |
| 01:28.29 | znf | What about HTMl to C |
| 01:29.43 | tz | totally could |
| 01:31.53 | Shirik | I'm actually kinda curious to see what would happen if you took JITted PHP and then ran a C decompiler on it |
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| 02:49.19 | Neffi | Semlar: my computer r died |
| 02:49.24 | Neffi | or, is about to r died |
| 02:49.28 | Semlar | :( |
| 02:49.45 | Neffi | i dont know if it will even boot again |
| 02:49.55 | Semlar | fix it neffi |
| 02:50.05 | Neffi | a few binaries have mysteriously disappeared out of /bin |
| 02:50.32 | Neffi | i dont know if I can fix it :| |
| 02:50.47 | Semlar | mysteriously eh |
| 02:50.55 | Neffi | ssd is reporting great health, no errors, etc. i'll test that and try to warranty it. it's still covered. |
| 02:52.13 | Neffi | it's also acting kind of psychotic, so it's not just missing files |
| 02:53.02 | Semlar | would you say the diagnosis is psychosis |
| 02:54.02 | Jammer_ | gg... telling my friend about dps call to arms... he queues after me and finishes the dungeon before I even get in >< |
| 02:54.20 | Amarande | Neffi: defective disk controller RAM perhaps? that's what that Spinpoint HDD from hell I had once turned out to be |
| 02:54.27 | Amarande | or at least that's what ##hardware thinks it was |
| 02:54.48 | Neffi | I dunno. The SSD is very new. Got it under warranty not too long ago. |
| 02:55.12 | Neffi | But I was having tons of errors trying to unpack some tars, and other weirdness |
| 02:55.35 | Neffi | A few minutes ago, every 20-30 seconds the dialog when you have no default applciation set kept opening up |
| 02:55.43 | Neffi | I guess from xdg-open |
| 02:56.01 | Semlar | have you tried using a real operating system |
| 02:56.09 | Neffi | chuckles heartily |
| 02:56.50 | Neffi | Over the past few weeks I've been having some weird issues on Linux but I chalked it up to the bleeding edge kernel being buggy. Freezes intermittently, deadlocks on I/O, other stuff. This is on FreeBSD right now |
| 02:57.13 | Amarande | Yeah, it doesn't look like the FreeBSD vs Linux religion war applies here Semlar :P |
| 02:57.49 | Neffi | Also I was getting visual corruption the other day but I ignored that because the GPU core was at 98C |
| 02:58.01 | Neffi | but that might be indicative of bad RAM because it's an igpu |
| 02:58.19 | Semlar | neffi |
| 02:58.23 | Neffi | because now I remember getting visual corruption on the desktop as well, when the gpu was cool |
| 02:58.37 | Neffi | Semlar, fix it D: |
| 02:58.38 | Semlar | is your gpu inside of a microwave |
| 02:58.45 | Neffi | no it's inside of a laptop |
| 02:58.49 | Semlar | oh dear |
| 02:58.52 | Neffi | aye |
| 02:58.52 | Semlar | even worse |
| 02:58.56 | Neffi | yup |
| 02:59.18 | Semlar | that's p hot neffi |
| 02:59.22 | Neffi | you're p hot |
| 02:59.27 | Semlar | :O |
| 02:59.53 | Neffi | the die regularly approaches 96+C when I load it. never have an issue. it never breaks 98, and I usually slap it on a fan to get the tmps down |
| 03:00.14 | Neffi | pegging just two cores with no GPU usage will get it up in the high 90s. the cooling on this thing is paltry |
| 03:08.01 | Amarande | Neffi, looks like you need to check your thermal paste |
| 03:08.16 | Neffi | no, this is after re-pasting it with AS5 |
| 03:08.40 | Amarande | too much thermal paste? |
| 03:08.49 | Neffi | the heatsink is the smallest I've seen in a laptop and the fans move so little air you cannot hear or feel at all |
| 03:08.56 | Amarande | oh, laptop |
| 03:09.05 | Amarande | just make sure seti doesn't melt your keys I guess ... heh |
| 03:09.06 | Neffi | no, I know how to apply thermal paste. it had quite a lot gooped on before. damn factories are so sloppy |
| 03:09.54 | Neffi | anyway it's never broken the thermal shutdown limit or exhibited problems so I'm not concerned. |
| 03:12.29 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn without her noticing |
| 03:12.42 | Cairenn | notices and hugs Fisker back |
| 03:12.51 | Fisker | :O |
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| 03:45.09 | ccox | >> : I'm actually kinda curious to see what would happen if you took JITted PHP and then ran a C decompiler on it |
| 03:45.29 | ccox | Shirik: Iâm pretty sure thatâs how Lovecraft wrote some of his books |
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| 04:32.53 | Dagmar | Would you _like_ CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN on your doorstep? |
| 04:33.42 | Dagmar | The Deep Ones do not like us monkeying around with that stuff |
| 04:34.38 | Dagmar | (If that's unclear, perhaps it's time to read http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/TheLaundrySeries) |
| 04:35.45 | karl_w_w | nice, blizzard authenticator android update removed the widget |
| 04:36.23 | karl_w_w | blizzard now microsoft, where updates remove functionality |
| 04:36.37 | Dagmar | It had a widget? |
| 04:36.46 | Dagmar | I never noticed |
| 04:36.59 | Dagmar | Did you just tap it to get the code or something? |
| 04:37.31 | Dagmar | They probably chucked it because of the obnoxious changes to AlarmManager in 5.1 |
| 04:38.13 | Amarande | Dagmar: ... and watch as #wowuidev goes dead as a tomb as everyone's stuck in an endless tvtropes browse :) |
| 04:38.41 | Dagmar | Amarande: Luckily almost everything from that link goes into the stuff of nightmares... literally. |
| 04:39.06 | Dagmar | Stross's stuff is some of the best Lovecraftian horror I've read that wasn't penned by HP |
| 04:39.23 | karl_w_w | yes Dagmar |
| 04:39.43 | Dagmar | karl_w_w: The alarmmanager changes are evil, imho |
| 04:39.55 | karl_w_w | i dont know what that is :P |
| 04:40.16 | Dagmar | If you try and schedule an event within the next five seconds, the alarmmanager will quietly ignore your time and trigger it whenever it damn well feels like it |
| 04:40.40 | Dagmar | Unfortunately, there's the oNLY damn way to make sure a widget actually updates according to a realtime interval |
| 04:40.51 | Dagmar | ...without risking the garbage collector throwing all your stuff away. |
| 04:41.13 | karl_w_w | ah, that explains why sometimes you'd tap the widget and it would take like 10 seconds to show your code |
| 04:41.30 | Dagmar | Well, that's more likely due to widgets getting fairly low priority |
| 04:41.53 | karl_w_w | I figured it was just waiting because the end of a 30s time period was close |
| 04:42.01 | Dagmar | ...combined with an extra helping of "widgets are a pain in the ass" |
| 04:42.19 | karl_w_w | it was fine though |
| 04:42.26 | Dagmar | Basically the "desktop" sort of "adopts" your classes. |
| 04:42.32 | karl_w_w | now i have to fucking open an app just to see a number |
| 04:43.02 | Dagmar | You can _try_ to spawn a service to keep things running, but then... garbage collector mischief. |
| 04:43.13 | Shirik | ccox: I legitimately want to try it |
| 04:43.21 | Dagmar | Android basically considers widgets to be easily-disposable fluff |
| 04:43.34 | Shirik | I'm just not quite sure how to get at some "compiled" php code |
| 04:43.45 | karl_w_w | on the plus side, the new app lets you copy the code to clipboard |
| 04:43.48 | Dagmar | So... it's alarmmanager or a future filled with bug reports of "widget stopped updating" |
| 04:45.15 | Dagmar | I've gone through all the other mechanisms available with my test for success being "will it run a week without stopping" and so far, there's nothing but AlarmManager and literally having to run _two_ timers all the time, with the second one being handled differently if the next time for an update is within the five second window. |
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| 04:45.40 | Dagmar | Repeating timers happening "when they feel like it". |
| 04:46.00 | Dagmar | "Precise" timers happening subject to the five second rule. :/ |
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| 04:46.57 | Dagmar | Just making a reliable clock widget is no longer a simple task in 5.1 |
| 04:47.13 | Dagmar | ...and you can just _forget_ updating on a per-second basis |
| 04:48.57 | Dagmar | The _sinister_ thing is that if Blizz's authenticator works like the usual, the widget not updating when it's supposed to could _easily_ lead to a broken authenticator token |
| 05:00.20 | mckenziemc | patches Dagmar. |
| 05:03.13 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/nX7V295.jpg |
| 05:03.23 | Dagmar | Anything if it'll stop this stupid cough bug from manifesting all night |
| 05:03.39 | mckenziemc | hugs Cairenn without Fisker noticing. |
| 05:03.48 | Cairenn | hugs mckenziemc |
| 05:05.26 | Fisker | notices and hugs Cairenn |
| 05:05.35 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 05:05.42 | Fisker | :P |
| 05:05.52 | Fisker | poor Cairenn and her arms |
| 05:08.34 | mckenziemc | already disarmed Fisker. |
| 05:23.09 | mckenziemc | hah |
| 05:23.18 | mckenziemc | Dunning-Kruger effect is protected on wikipedia |
| 05:23.42 | Simca_ | https://twitter.com/AskJoshy/status/641454583806496772 amazing |
| 05:28.10 | Shirik | fun question |
| 05:28.23 | mckenziemc | yes? |
| 05:28.33 | Shirik | if a business were to decide to keep all of their critical data in lotus 1-2-3 and dBase, would it be more secure or less secure than a typical environment? |
| 05:40.10 | Dagmar | Well, self-respecting criminals would know there's nothing really worth stealing there. |
| 05:40.54 | mckenziemc | how many self-respecting criminals do you know of |
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| 05:44.01 | Shirik | I mean there's two benefits |
| 05:44.18 | Shirik | one is that most of today's script kiddies wouldn't even know what to do with a dbase or lotus 1-2-3 file |
| 05:44.21 | Shirik | or wtf it is |
| 05:44.37 | Shirik | and the other is that it came from a simpler time, and getting simpler software right is easier |
| 05:44.48 | Shirik | that being said it also came from a time where people didn't think about security vulnerabilities |
| 05:45.09 | Dagmar | mckenziemc: Generally the ones who aren't strung out on meth or something |
| 05:45.41 | Dagmar | A decent blackhat will take one look at Lotus and say "If they had something worth taking, they wouldn't still be using this crap." and leave. |
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| 06:02.30 | karl_w_w | TIL Dota 2 being a video game is part of the lore https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/3k3soy/dotas_lore_in_a_nutshell/ |
| 06:10.24 | ccox | Shirik: neither one is 64 bit capable, and so youâd crash as soon as you hit 2 Gig of data... |
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| 07:19.42 | nebula | ccox: with lotus it wasn't just one big file |
| 07:19.50 | nebula | never used dBase, though |
| 07:23.48 | nebula | although was thinking notes, not 1-2-3 which was just a spreadsheet program i thought? |
| 07:51.50 | Dagmar | The last version of Notes I saw was in 2000, and it was on it's way out. It also appeared to have been designed by people from an alternate universe. |
| 07:53.38 | nevcairiel | nebula: 1-2-3 is their excel rival, yes |
| 07:58.36 | VIad | had never heard about lotus 1-2-3 until now. old school. |
| 07:59.31 | nevcairiel | lotus practically died, and you're just a kid :p |
| 08:02.34 | VIad | yeah. it was discontinued when I got my first pc |
| 08:07.02 | VIad | kind of sad when the wiki article writes about you like "written by Jeremy Sagan (son of Carl Sagan)" and your name has a red link |
| 08:15.51 | Dagmar | So unlinkify it until you do something notable enough to make someone else go "How the hell is he not in Wikipedia" |
| 08:16.13 | Dagmar | ...and pray it doesn't involve prostitutes and livestock. |
| 08:17.53 | Dagmar | Alternatively, you can just hit up backpage.com, rent a sheep and hire three hookers to watch you stuph it. One of the hookers will almost certainly be an undercover cop, and you'll be an internet celebrity by the end of the week's news cycle |
| 08:23.57 | VIad | Dagmar: didn't expect |
| 08:26.20 | Dagmar | I didn't say it was a _good_ alternative. |
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| 08:44.56 | VIad | jeremy sagan at least has a name to stand behind though. unlike most of us that have no parent that is famous :p |
| 08:45.18 | VIad | we better do something Dagmar |
| 09:08.32 | Dagmar | Yeah... I'm trying to avoid anythign resembling the above scenario, personally. |
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| 11:52.20 | Fisker | tacklehus Lopeppeppy |
| 11:52.25 | Fisker | :( |
| 11:52.28 | Fisker | tacklehugs Lopeppeppy |
| 11:55.26 | Lopeppeppy | Did everyone survive the holiday? I see that kd3 didn't... |
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| 11:58.49 | Amarande | Ordinary work weekend for me. I go on "holiday" tomorrow morning. :) |
| 12:00.03 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, I did way too much working over the weekend - but I work at a college, so it's an understandably busy week for us. |
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| 13:39.56 | karl_w_w | what's an adjective that means "like a utopia"? |
| 13:40.18 | karl_w_w | utopian |
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| 17:02.44 | fewyn | http://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2015/ |
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| 19:27.33 | znf | nginx masters, do I need to escape the . in hostnames when using $http_referer ~ "stuff" ? |
| 19:33.57 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfdEdE96En0 |
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| 19:42.00 | zenzelezz | well fuck, I can pretty much ignore my Twitter stream for the next few hours |
| 19:42.06 | zenzelezz | already full of just Apple shit |
| 19:45.45 | karl_w_w | you need to follow better people |
| 19:46.09 | zenzelezz | or just less fanboys |
| 19:46.15 | zenzelezz | *fewer |
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| 22:00.27 | Gnarfoz | znf: if in doubt, try? |
| 22:00.44 | znf | yeah, I did |
| 22:00.46 | znf | it works without escaping |
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| 22:12.47 | Unkle | So, of the people going to BlizzCon, is anyone looking to split a room? I just discovered that I failed to book when I bought my tickets. |
| 22:13.22 | znf | so, I just got 2 beta keys for Rainbow6: Siege closed beta |
| 22:13.27 | znf | and it seems to be us only |
| 22:13.32 | znf | anyone interested, before I throw them on twitter? |
| 22:14.01 | znf | (probably half the channel got them, though, from curse premium) |
| 22:14.08 | Unkle | That's an FPS? |
| 22:14.27 | znf | yeah |
| 22:14.53 | Unkle | I know a guy. |
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| 22:15.13 | Amarande | huh, I always thought the BlizzCon tickets were inherently coupled to the hotel rooms ... as in that's basically how they limited the tickets |
| 22:15.28 | Amarande | as opposed to say Dragon Con where tickets are easy to get but hotel rooms are most definitely not |
| 22:16.21 | Unkle | znf: This guy - @ForgetAmnesia on twitter is a broke, disabled student who is a game journalist in his spare time and would probably KILL for those keys. |
| 22:18.03 | Unkle | Amarande: I could get a room anywhere and just drive to the site in the morning because well, Anaheim has a lot of hotels, but I'm looking for closer. Mostly because I'd rather not walk a lot and because I don't want to load a wheelchair/scooter into my car several times a day. |
| 22:19.40 | Unkle | And before anyone asks, yes, I'm going to use a wheelchair/scooter at BC because reasons. |
| 22:20.06 | znf | fatty! |
| 22:20.29 | znf | I'm kidding |
| 22:20.50 | Unkle | Well, yes, I'm overweight, but it's the degenerative joint disease that is driving this choice. |
| 22:21.07 | znf | sorry to hear that |
| 22:21.55 | Unkle | *shrug* it's a thing. At least this year I won't be asking people to wait while I rest on our way around Disney or on the way to a bar. |
| 22:25.01 | znf | Crap. I have to buy some DVD-DL |
| 22:25.09 | znf | I don't know who the hell caries that |
| 22:32.23 | Dagmar | Basically, anywhere that sells blanks. |
| 22:32.44 | znf | I live in a really small town :) |
| 22:32.58 | Dagmar | Even the local Walgreen' |
| 22:33.08 | Dagmar | s or CVS is likely to hve them. |
| 22:33.25 | znf | I'm on the other continent |
| 22:33.51 | karl_w_w | http://wccftech.com/amd-forms-radeon-technologies-group/ |
| 22:34.08 | karl_w_w | for those of you who want good tech news instead of apple tripe |
| 22:36.04 | znf | I'm not sure what is good about that though |
| 22:37.31 | znf | ...why am I updating the firmware on my dvd-writer? |
| 22:38.32 | kullervo | because the manufacturer has found an issue with the old firmware |
| 22:39.49 | Amarande | because you have a thirst for the awesome thrills of risk that come from the possibility of making your DVD writer into a brick |
| 22:39.57 | Amarande | costing you all of ... oh, about twenty bucks. LOL |
| 22:41.22 | znf | RIP DVD-R |
| 22:41.23 | znf | RIP DVD-RW |
| 22:41.48 | znf | oh, no, wait, it came back to life |
| 22:41.50 | znf | yay |
| 22:42.02 | znf | I am now the proud owner of Firmware 1.41, dated 06/05/25 |
| 22:43.44 | znf | if I ever have kids, I can tell them that my dvd-burner is older than them |
| 22:46.53 | kd3 | the fridge in my apartment is older than I am |
| 22:46.56 | kd3 | it's kinda alarming |
| 22:48.09 | znf | LPT: You should sell your fridge while it's still working, and buy a new one when discounts hit |
| 22:48.19 | znf | something with like 50% discount |
| 22:48.38 | kd3 | but that involves spending money on an apartment I'm not going to stick around in forever |
| 22:48.49 | znf | oh well :P |
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| 23:04.29 | Unkle | kd3: So the biggest component of your electric bill is keeping your food cold? |
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| 23:09.05 | kd3 | here's a typical day: http://imgur.com/fxMqwiz |
| 23:09.12 | kd3 | so, yes, probably |
| 23:16.14 | znf | I envy you guys from having fancy power thingies :( |
| 23:16.21 | znf | our power company is still in the stonage |
| 23:16.29 | znf | with old crappy measuring devices |
| 23:16.39 | znf | and we have to report the index every 2 months |
| 23:16.46 | znf | and they send a guy in to check the index every 6 months |
| 23:19.12 | kd3 | though it's interesting whenever I use my oven... http://imgur.com/yPxHn5g |
| 23:21.48 | kd3 | which is probably as old as I am too |
| 23:36.45 | Unkle | Yeah, those are some startlingly hungry devices. |
| 23:49.12 | Arrowmaster | they are usually on their own dedicated breaker for a reason |
| 23:50.18 | Amarande | znf: good god, where do you live where they expect the CUSTOMER to read and report their own meter? *blink* |
| 23:50.57 | znf | Romania |
| 23:51.14 | Arrowmaster | ohio..... |
| 23:53.17 | Amarande | well, it's romania ... they probably can't have automated meters there or half of them would be hacked and the power company would go bankrupt |
| 23:53.48 | Amarande | (at least, from what I've seen in past years on the internet, it seems that Romania has had a chronic epidemic of hacking issues) |
| 23:54.11 | Unkle | More likely they didn't have the manpower/infrastructure and people just got into the habit of doing that as a civic duty. |
| 23:54.41 | Arrowmaster | you can hack analog meters easier than digital |
