| 00:00.45 | Industrial | Is there a way I can inspect all the wow sounds so I can identify what I mean? |
| 00:12.30 | Kesava | The sound folder is just WoW/Sound now |
| 00:13.26 | Kesava | I semi-use the one you linked (I've mostly just removed racial/emote noises since blizzard insists on making NPCs that spam them). that works for me. |
| 00:15.50 | Kesava | http://www.wowhead.com/sounds?filter=ty=26 |
| 00:16.58 | Stanzilla | touches Kesava |
| 00:17.18 | Kesava | is touched |
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| 00:26.17 | fewyn | https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/3eltkl/whats_happening_was_there_a_security_breach/ |
| 00:43.52 | Reflekxion | Question... I went ahead and paid for the book "World of Warcraft Programming" the 2nd edition; It's talking about a Lua Interpreter... is this really necessary? |
| 00:44.20 | Reflekxion | I'd prefer to write it out and test it live, so if it's not required then I'm not gonna worry about it and go on. |
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| 00:49.19 | kd3 | wow addons are run in lua |
| 00:49.26 | kd3 | you can test it in the live client, sure |
| 00:49.35 | kd3 | you just have to /reload after changing any file |
| 00:50.24 | kd3 | you can use the interpreter as a quick sanity check - if the interpreter on it's own can't run your script, wow won't be able to either |
| 00:51.11 | kd3 | the lua interpreter is free - http://www.lua.org/download.html (get a binary so you don't have to build it yourself) |
| 00:51.55 | Reflekxion | I'm on OS X |
| 00:52.34 | Reflekxion | n/m, they have a build available. |
| 00:53.01 | Reflekxion | I like the whole "WoWLua" addon thing tho, very nifty to have it accessible within |
| 00:53.10 | kd3 | ya |
| 01:00.19 | Industrial | Kesava: yay it worked ty so much :O! |
| 01:01.45 | Industrial | ughhh its so much cleaner now :P |
| 01:18.10 | MiRai | I think there have been two different CASC "explorer" type of programs mentioned in here before. Does anyone have th links of those? And can I extract files or just check paths? |
| 01:20.18 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:20.50 | kd3 | note that there's no internal file list like there were in the MPQs, so finding a file list is important too |
| 01:22.29 | Neffi | so, what, does the client keep a file list elsewhere? |
| 01:23.19 | kd3 | there are file lists in the dbcs (for the ui), hardcoded, or the server says 'display the file at this path' |
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| 01:31.27 | Gethe | MiRai: there is also LuaCASC https://www.townlong-yak.com/casc/ |
| 01:32.16 | MiRai | Alright, thanks. |
| 01:32.22 | MiRai | sorry, I went AFK for a moment there :) |
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| 01:44.48 | VIad | this is bullshit http://ss.bool.no/capture_1437875083.png |
| 01:46.13 | kullervo | VIad: hohoho |
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| 02:45.52 | Industrial | doo doo, doo dee doo :D |
| 02:46.00 | Industrial | addons here, addons there! |
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| 05:23.14 | mckenziemc | smells bluspacecow. |
| 05:23.24 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 05:23.28 | bluspacecow | i just showered! |
| 05:30.08 | mckenziemc | you may want to check your water supply then |
| 05:35.12 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 05:35.14 | bluspacecow | so mean! |
| 05:37.06 | mckenziemc | yes, they can be |
| 05:39.40 | bluspacecow | guys was there ever a Fishing Buddy Bot ? |
| 05:40.06 | Fisker | will you be my fishing buddy? |
| 05:40.19 | Semlar | yes |
| 05:40.38 | Fisker | not you |
| 05:40.47 | Semlar | WELL NOT YOU EITHER |
| 05:41.10 | Fisker | :( |
| 05:41.15 | Semlar | fishingbuddy would have been part of the honorbuddy bots |
| 05:41.29 | Fisker | Why do you say that? |
| 05:41.35 | Semlar | gee |
| 05:43.06 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:43.13 | bluspacecow | yes i will fisker |
| 05:43.27 | Fisker | ok too bad because I don't want to be yours |
| 05:44.25 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 05:45.54 | fewyn | CITIZENS OF DALARAN! RAISE YOUR EYES TO THE SKIES AND OBSERVE! |
| 05:48.42 | Semlar | predator drones? |
| 05:50.21 | Stanzilla | I actually got that predator achievement now |
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| 06:17.01 | mckenziemc | *sigh* always a typo somewhere |
| 06:17.14 | mckenziemc | puts parentheses around Fisker. |
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| 06:20.58 | mckenziemc | i had one, just forgot to block his ability to escape to the other side :o |
| 06:21.29 | kullervo | mckenziemc: what ability? |
| 06:22.05 | mckenziemc | [Fisker] |
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| 06:30.29 | mckenziemc | does wow implement a rounding function (to a specific decimal place) or do i need to do my own offset->floor/ceil |
| 06:32.18 | Semlar | well you can just format to a specific decimal place |
| 06:32.57 | Semlar | i'm assuming this is for display purposes |
| 06:33.32 | kd3 | s.format("%f.3") |
| 06:33.33 | Semlar | eg. format('%.2f', 0.12345) |
| 06:36.59 | mckenziemc | GetTime offsets for a log |
| 06:44.53 | Semlar | if you want to leave it as a number you can multiply by 100, add 0.5, floor it and divide by 100, or just convert the string to a number |
| 06:59.11 | kd3 | wait, what? http://i.imgur.com/shwxK8E.gif |
| 06:59.53 | Thordurin | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sagg08DrO5U |
| 06:59.57 | Thordurin | :D |
| 07:01.30 | kullervo | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIwc6c1nYVw |
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| 07:07.30 | Thordurin | that is not gandalf relevant sir |
| 07:08.17 | kullervo | Thordurin: yeah but it's relevant to some earlier conversation |
| 07:08.25 | Thordurin | fair enough |
| 07:10.08 | kullervo | also the audio is fucking horrible |
| 07:10.13 | kullervo | but I owe that much to my guild |
| 07:10.51 | Thordurin | I know that song, just really slowed slowed |
| 07:11.38 | kullervo | yeah it's Eduard Khil - I'm so glad because I'm finally returning home |
| 07:11.38 | Semlar | oh, i thought you were just possessed |
| 07:19.03 | Dagmar | kd3: Warning. Do not try to Google to figure out WTF that image means |
| 07:19.20 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 07:20.12 | Dagmar | Robdgreat: The point of this exercise being, I no longer have to "settle" for 20000mAh |
| 07:20.15 | Dagmar | @#$@ |
| 07:25.02 | karl_w_w | that was weird, I googled the same thing twice and got different results |
| 07:25.22 | kullervo | karl_w_w: they're changing the matrix |
| 07:26.30 | karl_w_w | I would say maybe it's because it's the first time I used google today so they didn't realise I was logged in so didn't give me personalized results the first time |
| 07:26.49 | karl_w_w | but then the results of the first search were better for me than the second |
| 07:29.00 | mckenziemc | does that say something about the kinds of things you normally search for? |
| 07:32.54 | karl_w_w | I don't think so |
| 07:33.26 | mckenziemc | could always ask google |
| 07:35.24 | Dagmar | Could be a combination of tailored results and A/B testing |
| 07:36.20 | kd3 | it came from this thread, apparently. the video makes about as much sense... https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3ekot6/so_this_happened_in_a_4000_people_lan_party_in/ |
| 07:37.04 | Thordurin | LOL |
| 07:37.09 | Fisker | epic sax gandalf |
| 07:37.26 | Thordurin | I linked that video because we played it at work for lulz |
| 07:37.32 | Fisker | Why is one of them using two chairs kd3 ? |
| 07:37.34 | Thordurin | I didn't know about that reddit thread |
| 07:37.51 | mckenziemc | are you jealous Fisker |
| 07:38.09 | nevcairiel | poor lan party guests had to sit on cheap plastic chairs kd3 :( |
| 07:38.35 | Fisker | Some of them had to sit on two cheap plastic chairs nevcairiel |
| 07:38.47 | Dagmar | Do you get the feeling you are somehow working backwards on this one? |
| 07:39.03 | Dagmar | I've the distinct impression that I know even _less_ about WTF is with the chairs now |
| 07:41.51 | Fisker | btw you know the flimmer that occurs on a monitor if you record it at a different framerate than its refreshrate? |
| 07:42.39 | mckenziemc | "Conservative estimate, about 600W per computer and monitor. Multiply that by 4000 and you get 2.4MW. That's as much as a small town." |
| 07:42.54 | mckenziemc | not sure if he knows power supply rating =/= actual consumption |
| 07:43.33 | Dagmar | Well, there's a small town's worth of geeks there |
| 07:43.40 | nevcairiel | 600 for PC and monitor together is probably a good estimate per user |
| 07:43.48 | Dagmar | In theory, this would also involve a small town's worth of personal hygiene products. |
| 07:44.03 | mckenziemc | fat chance dagmar |
| 07:44.06 | Dagmar | In practice... |
| 07:44.19 | Dagmar | I doubt either is seeing proper representation |
| 07:45.20 | Dagmar | Whoever ran the power conduits would damn well know what is being used, tho |
| 07:45.50 | Dagmar | I have _been_ the guy who plugged in The Last Device before. |
| 07:46.21 | Dagmar | PhreakNIC 3, we were careless. My laptop pushed things over the edge. *POP* goes the breaker. |
| 07:46.48 | Dagmar | "I guess I'll start my presentation with a little talk about the importance of UPSes." |
| 07:47.33 | Dagmar | 35-45 workstations had just gone dark, except for mine. ;) |
| 07:48.34 | Dagmar | There's at least someone who was involved in that who did not need to estimate the amount of power they were using |
| 07:49.32 | Dagmar | Our hotel was thankfully very forgiving about it |
| 07:50.04 | mikma | kullervo: finnish guild linked! |
| 07:50.11 | mckenziemc | UPSes are overrated, literally :p |
| 07:50.26 | Dagmar | ...but they buy you valuable time to save your shit. |
| 07:50.40 | mckenziemc | depends |
| 07:50.48 | mikma | kullervo: i like the trololo in the background |
| 07:50.59 | kullervo | mikma, Fear the Rabbit |
| 07:51.05 | Dagmar | There's no real "depends" on that. Either you budgeted properly or you've basiclaly just wasted your money |
| 07:51.06 | mckenziemc | mine can't support anywhere near the wattage / VA rating it's specified as |
| 07:51.45 | mckenziemc | i'm more inclined to think it's the UPS company overrating than my kill-a-watt underrating |
| 07:51.56 | Dagmar | mckenziemc: That's pretty much why one of the things I do the first week I own a new one is load test it |
| 07:52.21 | mckenziemc | yeah, that's what i did, but i didn't have money for a higher rating one - there was a big price gap |
| 07:52.35 | Dagmar | did you happen to notice the curious thing about them? |
| 07:52.40 | mckenziemc | uh |
| 07:52.47 | Dagmar | ...because I'm not saying your wrong about UPSes being poorly described |
| 07:53.10 | Dagmar | 95% of them use the exact same 12v, 7a battery |
| 07:53.23 | Dagmar | The larger tier will use two of them. |
| 07:53.53 | Dagmar | 350/450/550 VA? All the same battery. |
| 07:54.02 | mckenziemc | i've looked at batteries and what i saw suggests otherwise but not enough to discount that |
| 07:54.17 | mckenziemc | amazon is bad about having the same item branded for different products :< |
| 07:54.22 | Dagmar | I live in Nashville. We have "God Is Angry" storms rather frequently |
| 07:54.37 | Dagmar | You either buy UPSes or in the course of 10 years, you get to replace some shit |
| 07:54.51 | Dagmar | ...so I'm buying 8-10 of these damn batteries every year now |
| 07:55.22 | mckenziemc | use a car battery :p |
| 07:55.25 | Dagmar | Six different models of UPSes in my house. Every damn one had the same cell in them, except my 900 which had two. |
| 07:55.42 | Dagmar | Different charge/discharge characteristics |
| 07:55.48 | mckenziemc | i know |
| 07:56.06 | mckenziemc | about the discharge, not so sure about the change |
| 07:56.09 | mckenziemc | charge* |
| 07:56.15 | Dagmar | A car battery is required to produce rather a lot of current up front, but for a relatively _short_ period of time. |
| 07:56.33 | Dagmar | UPS batteries are expected to be able to drain all the way to their stopping point without blowin' up |
| 07:56.44 | mckenziemc | which is enough to quit whatever game / other CPU use you're doing :p |
| 07:56.46 | Mr_Rabies | hey, you might be able to find a place with a good discount if you buy 10 at once |
| 07:56.48 | Mr_Rabies | that's not bad |
| 07:56.48 | Dagmar | That will very much murder a car battery. |
| 07:56.58 | Mr_Rabies | my UPS uses a common battery used in home security systems |
| 07:57.00 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: They are fucking _HEAVY_ |
| 07:57.01 | Mr_Rabies | 2 of them, daisy chained |
| 07:57.13 | Mr_Rabies | so i can get new batteries for like $15 |
| 07:57.29 | Dagmar | Three years ago I made that run on my 125cc scooter |
| 07:57.47 | Dagmar | It handled like a school bus on the way home hehe |
| 07:58.31 | mckenziemc | my problem was that with BOINC running and the (LCD) monitor in the UPS too, the computer would reset |
| 07:59.10 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: Yeah, usually what I would do was when a UPS had it's battery start decaying, I'd just wait for a sale and buy another one at slightly more than the cost of a new battery not on sale |
| 07:59.32 | Dagmar | It's why I wound up with 15 of the things at one point |
| 07:59.40 | mckenziemc | if i had the monitor on a non-battery outlet it had just enough that if the UPS was connected to the PC via USB, boinc would stop running and all would be well |
| 07:59.53 | mckenziemc | i think it was the same for wow |
| 08:00.12 | Dagmar | I only keep one monitor on a UPS, and that's the one on the master console |
| 08:00.25 | mckenziemc | i only had the one monitor at that time |
| 08:01.04 | Dagmar | If I had my laptop in fighting trim at the moment I'd take the monitor back off the UPS |
| 08:02.11 | Dagmar | All my stuff is on a UPS of some sort, but if the power gets wobbly and starts going away and coming back repeatedly I have to intervene |
| 08:02.48 | Dagmar | The joys of having the console in front of you go out becuase the screen wasn't on a UPS are not strangers to me. Heh |
| 08:02.53 | mckenziemc | well it's nice to know you can make some quick edits etc before closing everything and shutting down if you have a monitor to see with o.o |
| 08:03.16 | Dagmar | Yeah now imaging you have 8 servers running in the house, all the time. Heh |
| 08:03.36 | Dagmar | Invariably one of the damn things isn't coming back up cleanly. Heh |
| 08:03.40 | mckenziemc | though i can't think of any case hibernating would cause any issues, other than my old computer that would sometimes fail to resume afterward |
| 08:03.58 | mckenziemc | i have one |
| 08:04.06 | Dagmar | At the datacenter level this becomes lultacular |
| 08:04.29 | mckenziemc | the power can go out briefly and the server will be fine, but if my main computer isn't on UPS the same brief outage will reset it :( |
| 08:04.29 | Dagmar | I practically took over the VU datacenter one afternoon when Plant Ops had a major fuckup |
| 08:05.02 | Dagmar | They performed their generator test with it still on the grid |
| 08:05.12 | mckenziemc | o.O |
| 08:05.15 | Dagmar | *BANG*. NES was a little upset, as were the three blocks around the building |
| 08:05.45 | Dagmar | It was comical to watch people literally running in circles for the first 30 seconds or so |
| 08:06.21 | Dagmar | I yelled at people, made everyone go into the datacenter with flashlights (i have a bunch of the things because that's me) and made them start pushing power buttons. |
| 08:06.35 | Dagmar | ...because HVAC? Definitely very down. |
| 08:07.15 | Dagmar | That meant they had about 30 minutes to power off gowd 56-60 racks or so |
| 08:07.33 | Dagmar | ...because then the room would be at >90F |
| 08:08.12 | mckenziemc | i bought a second small UPS mainly to have a Pi server running that can last longer during a power outage, but haven't actually set it up yet |
| 08:08.50 | Dagmar | LOL |
| 08:08.58 | Dagmar | I'm not laughing for the reason you think |
| 08:09.25 | Dagmar | I have a 'lipstick' charger here that does 2600mAh that will run a Pi with a wifi dongle for four hours |
| 08:09.26 | mckenziemc | i'm not sure what to think so |
| 08:09.54 | Dagmar | That they can live off 1.2a easily is fuckin' awesomesauce |
| 08:10.23 | Dagmar | Go buy an Anker 20000mAh powerbank maybe |
| 08:10.45 | Dagmar | The 18650 cells in it are fairly replaceable and run about $7-10 each |
| 08:10.54 | mckenziemc | i have a 2600 and a 5200 |
| 08:10.57 | Dagmar | That'll get you easily 12-24 hours. :) |
| 08:11.07 | mckenziemc | i want something where i don't have to unplug the pi during/after an outage |
| 08:11.22 | Dagmar | I've been taking mine out to a park and leaving it in the car to snarf MAC addresses as people drive by while I play Ingress |
| 08:11.34 | mckenziemc | the gateway and probably a phone will be on the UPS at the same time |
| 08:12.46 | Dagmar | The lipstick charger bucket-brigades, so I just set it up connect through that, take the charger and Pi with me, toss 'em in the backseat, then take them back in and plug them back into the wall charger and ethernet when I get home |
| 08:12.58 | Dagmar | Zero downtime. :) |
| 08:13.15 | mckenziemc | bucket-brigades? |
| 08:13.33 | Dagmar | Yeah, some chargers turn off their 5V USB output when they are charging |
| 08:14.19 | Dagmar | When they don't power is basically going into and possibly through the charging cells and into the next device in the chain, hence "bucket-brigading" |
| 08:15.12 | mckenziemc | i couldn't find any trustable information on whether that was specifically supported on any power banks or safe to try, cuz you know, lithium batteries :< |
| 08:15.18 | Dagmar | I'm waiting for the 10400mAh array I just built to reach full charge so I can test it |
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| 08:15.43 | Dagmar | Mainly it depends on what they're rated for load |
| 08:15.57 | mckenziemc | quality of the charger o.o |
| 08:16.06 | Dagmar | Drawing such a small amount as a single 1a device is generally not a problem |
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| 08:16.36 | Dagmar | Try and drive a pair of 2A devices and charge at the same time, you're likely to have a problem without using more cells |
| 08:17.17 | Dagmar | mckenziemc: Generally it's the quality of the cell that gets you |
| 08:17.24 | Dagmar | These are not particularly complex devices |
| 08:17.43 | Dagmar | There's a low point you can't go below, and a high point you can't go over without damaging the battery |
| 08:17.53 | mckenziemc | well yeah, i mean the whole unit |
| 08:17.53 | mckenziemc | i trust a phone to run and charge at the same time but i don't trust some generic power bank nearly as much :o |
| 08:18.15 | mckenziemc | that pi will be permanently tethered at home anyway |
| 08:18.20 | mckenziemc | i have three of them |
| 08:18.29 | Dagmar | ...and you basically just feed them 4.2v and no more until they're at 4.2v (or whatever you've set the ceiling to) and stop |
| 08:19.01 | mckenziemc | how do they convert from the 3.7v lithium to 5v usb anyway |
| 08:19.07 | mckenziemc | well, both ways |
| 08:19.13 | Dagmar | Your phone probably only drains 450-500mAh unless it's figured out it's safe to do otherwise |
| 08:19.27 | mckenziemc | true |
| 08:19.52 | Dagmar | You can just _buy_ a tiny little board to make that happen |
| 08:20.11 | Dagmar | Someone on Amazon is now selling one that is literally just for USB charging |
| 08:20.41 | mckenziemc | i'm talking about from an electrical engineering perspective |
| 08:20.53 | Dagmar | $7 and you just connect 4 18650's (or similar) to it in parallel. Feed power in through microUSB and you get two 5V USB outputs |
| 08:21.14 | mckenziemc | not "magic box that may or may not be safe to use in general, let alone in this specific fashion" |
| 08:21.15 | Dagmar | Well, you _could_ just use a transformer. That's stupidly easy. |
| 08:21.31 | mckenziemc | transformers require AC |
| 08:21.35 | mckenziemc | ergo not so easy :P |
| 08:21.36 | Dagmar | It just won't provide a stable and precice 5V without other cirtcuits like a current limiter |
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| 08:22.27 | Dagmar | For DC the same basic mechanism is just called a step-up or step-down |
| 08:22.49 | mckenziemc | it's not "the same basic mechanism" |
| 08:23.07 | Dagmar | Yeah it is, you're simply trading volts for amps and vice-versa |
| 08:23.10 | mckenziemc | and the only ones i know of so far are an integer multiple |
| 08:23.42 | Dagmar | ADAfruit sells a kit, man https://www.adafruit.com/products/14 |
| 08:23.51 | mckenziemc | you can arbitrarily reduce it with a resistor but it has to be matched to the load resistance |
| 08:24.00 | Dagmar | That little chip you see is where most of the magic happens |
| 08:24.30 | mckenziemc | see magic box concern |
| 08:25.02 | Dagmar | We're at hte point now where "magic box" means "thign you can get for 35 cents in bulk so no point in solving it over again" |
| 08:25.27 | mckenziemc | the loss from a housefire is much more than 35 cents :p |
| 08:25.30 | Dagmar | I can build the circuit with a whole slew of transformers, caps, and resistors, but fuck that |
| 08:25.50 | mckenziemc | again, not transformers |
| 08:25.55 | Dagmar | Anythign I would build is already being manufectured in a more power-efficient and much smaller package |
| 08:26.05 | Dagmar | You can build your own resistors if you like. |
| 08:26.28 | Dagmar | It just makes more sense to buy them from someone who makes a bunch of different ones and just work with what's available |
| 08:27.13 | Dagmar | I just ordred that $7 charging board to test it out. It's about the size of a thumbdrive |
| 08:28.04 | mckenziemc | problem is it's hard to verify quality, and not particularly easy to find out the proper details to determine if it's safe/durable enough for anything other than the expected use case |
| 08:28.09 | Dagmar | If I really, really tried, I could build it from raw parts, but it would mean a lot of work with my loupe glasses, screwing around with etching the board, etc etc. ...or I could just spend $7 on something that was mass-produced |
| 08:28.24 | Dagmar | That's why I'm testing the array I built today |
| 08:28.51 | Dagmar | God only knows how long it'll take to drain both the array and my phone's battery so I can be sure everything should be "dead" |
| 08:28.54 | mckenziemc | works once isn't the same as working as long as you would expect |
| 08:29.13 | Dagmar | My phone has an 8600mAh battery on it. I ain't playing games here. |
| 08:29.15 | mckenziemc | not unrelated to the car battery vs deep-discharge battery issue :P |
| 08:29.28 | Dagmar | Well, technically I *am* playing games, but Ingress is a harsh mistress on underperforming power sources |
| 08:30.19 | Dagmar | When I left the last anomaly my phone was at 68%. ...and that battery is a year old. |
| 08:30.39 | Dagmar | Roughly 5+ hours of just burning power |
| 08:30.48 | Mr_Rabies | somehow my phone battery has lasted pretty well |
| 08:30.59 | Mr_Rabies | i've got an iphone 3gs, and i guess the trick to keeping the battery is hating the phone |
| 08:31.17 | Mr_Rabies | honestly, though, i haven't really found a compelling replacement yet |
| 08:31.53 | Dagmar | The iphone Ingress players are funny |
| 08:31.59 | Mr_Rabies | android and apple have all but foregone actually being able to use external storage in any real way, no user-replacable batteries, etc |
| 08:32.01 | Dagmar | 1850mAh battery in the 6. LOL |
| 08:32.29 | Dagmar | They basically only get to play Ingress for about an hour or so, or they're carrying a battery pack. |
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| 08:32.51 | Dagmar | Drawing all those sparkles uses up a breathtaking amount of juice. :) |
| 08:33.01 | Mr_Rabies | mine has a 1220 mAh battery, it lasts about uh, 24-30 hours on a single charge |
| 08:33.07 | Mr_Rabies | but |
| 08:33.15 | Mr_Rabies | i don't really do anything with it but make phone calls at this point |
| 08:33.16 | Dagmar | Yeah, start playing Ingress. :) |
| 08:33.22 | Mr_Rabies | and texting occasionally |
| 08:33.32 | Mr_Rabies | i kinda really stopped caring about mobile gaming |
| 08:33.42 | Dagmar | It's good exercise. |
| 08:33.53 | Mr_Rabies | i'm thinking about making the jump to windows phone but i dunno |
| 08:33.53 | mckenziemc | i use my nexus more for firefox than anything else |
| 08:33.57 | mckenziemc | eww |
| 08:34.00 | Dagmar | If you think you've done some dumb things for valor points, wait until you're low on XMP bursters |
| 08:34.22 | Mr_Rabies | i don't really use apps, i use websites |
| 08:34.34 | Dagmar | I used to hoof it three blocks just to get more sparkles so I could nuke someone's shit, before they added power cubes to the game |
| 08:34.48 | mckenziemc | i should refine that |
| 08:34.58 | mckenziemc | i use my phone for wikipedia more than anything else |
| 08:35.20 | Dagmar | A very honorable use. The Enlightenment needs people like you. |
| 08:35.43 | Mr_Rabies | i stopped really much using wikipedia, the politics there have made it less accurate than it's ever been |
| 08:36.01 | Dagmar | Ingress will introduce you to new and interesting people. |
| 08:36.05 | Dagmar | Like the police. ;) |
| 08:36.08 | mckenziemc | depends on what you use it for i guess |
| 08:36.16 | Mr_Rabies | i consume information at about 5% of what i did probably 3 years ago |
| 08:36.20 | Dagmar | Usually I just explain what I'm doing. |
| 08:36.38 | Mr_Rabies | i realized how much of it was terrible useless noise and don't really read blog sites, news, wikipedia, etc |
| 08:36.42 | Dagmar | I have yet to find a cop who didn't just _give_ up and decide I wasn't up to anything he wanted a part of |
| 08:37.45 | Dagmar | ...which is a shame becuase it would be great to have some cops playing. Hehe |
| 08:38.04 | Dagmar | "Smurfs are in the park after hours! Get im!" |
| 08:38.48 | Dagmar | Probably 90% of the time I play at night. LATE at night. |
| 08:39.48 | mckenziemc | go to sleep, Dagmar |
| 08:39.48 | Dagmar | Three times the cops have pulled me over. Three times they were confused when they started, because where I was making these little 30-90 second stops fit no pattern |
| 08:41.30 | Dagmar | When you tell them you're attacking things which don't actually exist, their reaction is priceless |
| 08:42.07 | Mr_Rabies | i've only been pulled over once, for going 85 in a 65 :x |
| 08:43.29 | Dagmar | So wouldn't you like to turn the tables on them? |
| 08:44.01 | Dagmar | Instead of "Do you know how fast you were going?" it becomes "Umm... what are you doing?" |
| 08:44.37 | Mr_Rabies | cops really only pull people over tor speeding around here |
| 08:44.56 | Dagmar | This is probably the reason I've only been pulled over three times. |
| 08:44.58 | Mr_Rabies | if they can't point at one number and then use brainmaths to eventually figure out that number is bigger than the number on this here sign |
| 08:45.01 | Mr_Rabies | they're not interested |
| 08:45.12 | Dagmar | Twice it was because one of my stops was right in view of a cop stalking car thieves |
| 08:45.12 | Mr_Rabies | in fact |
| 08:45.27 | Mr_Rabies | they're so bad at their jobs they're decreasing speed limits with the explicit purpose of increasing revenue |
| 08:45.34 | Mr_Rabies | or well |
| 08:45.44 | Mr_Rabies | cops aren't decreasing them obviously |
| 08:45.50 | Mr_Rabies | but they're getting them reduced |
| 08:46.06 | Mr_Rabies | when anything gets stolen around here the cops are like |
| 08:46.11 | Dagmar | THat's kind of useful because Ingress stops working at ~35mph |
| 08:46.35 | Mr_Rabies | "well, we don't usually find them" *shrug* |
| 08:46.39 | Mr_Rabies | and then you never hear anything |
| 08:46.50 | Dagmar | The Centennial Park cops think we're hilarious because we're basically the only people who adhere to the 15mph speed limit. :) |
| 08:47.18 | Mr_Rabies | you'd get pulled over here for using your phone while driving maybe, under the no-texting laws |
| 08:47.20 | Mr_Rabies | maaaaaaybe |
| 08:47.20 | Dagmar | ...which means everyone else has to, and 1 or 2 of us are there every hour of the day. :) |
| 08:47.52 | Dagmar | This is why you take a passenger who is nimble enough to operate both phones, or learn to keep your phone down below the seat and pay attention to the road |
| 08:47.52 | Mr_Rabies | you'd also get pulled over for interfering with the flow of traffic here too :v |
| 08:48.01 | Mr_Rabies | well, you'd meet the requirements to do so |
| 08:48.17 | Mr_Rabies | actually getting pulled over for it is rare locally, but elsewhere in the state it's pretty common |
| 08:48.23 | Dagmar | Not when everyone's supposed to doing 15mph. :) |
| 08:48.33 | Mr_Rabies | even if you're going over the speed limit, you can be pulled over for interering with traffic here |
| 08:48.55 | Mr_Rabies | flow of traffic is far more important than speed limit when it comes to safety, in general |
| 08:49.06 | Mr_Rabies | now |
| 08:49.16 | Dagmar | The number of pedestrians in the park makes the cops very happy to see people doing only 15mph. |
| 08:49.19 | Mr_Rabies | since it's 15mph and probably pretty busy you'd possibly be okay |
| 08:49.35 | mckenziemc | well |
| 08:49.35 | Mr_Rabies | but you do risk it when you slow traffic |
| 08:49.44 | Mr_Rabies | it mostly applies to 4-lane highways here |
| 08:49.51 | mckenziemc | i learned how to manage distractions while driving with my newspaper delivery job |
| 08:49.55 | Mr_Rabies | you can basically stop on 2-lane roads as long as the other lane is clear |
| 08:49.57 | mckenziemc | i don't use my phone while driving :p |
| 08:50.03 | Dagmar | Another reason why i like nighttime ingressing. No traffic to slow up if you need to do 32 in a 40 zone for a bit |
| 08:50.06 | Mr_Rabies | i can't even listen to the radio when driving |
| 08:50.12 | Mr_Rabies | my awareness goes way down when i do |
| 08:50.26 | mckenziemc | i don't have a radio >.> |
| 08:50.29 | Mr_Rabies | my brain dedicates too many resources to breaking down songs into their component melodies by instrument |
| 08:50.32 | mckenziemc | it was stolen during previous ownership |
| 08:50.43 | Mr_Rabies | i replaced the radio in mine |
| 08:50.50 | Dagmar | I set my screen to a fixed angle and since I know where all the things are, and where the hack button is, I only need my phone to vibrate a little to let me know I'm still looting |
| 08:50.59 | Mr_Rabies | it would constantly try to swap to CD |
| 08:51.21 | Mr_Rabies | whether or not a cd was in the slot loading drive |
| 08:51.29 | Mr_Rabies | i really, really hate slot-loading optical drives |
| 08:51.50 | Dagmar | Replace it with one that has bluetooth |
| 08:52.14 | Mr_Rabies | i use a good old fashioned 3.5mm cable |
| 08:52.38 | Mr_Rabies | the iphone does have a pretty damned good audio DAC if nothing else |
| 08:52.47 | Mr_Rabies | that's one thing that apple has done right, generally |
| 08:52.59 | Mr_Rabies | their music devices tend to have some good audio stuff |
| 08:53.18 | Dagmar | I'm fine with connecting my car stereo to ~48Gb of max quality mp3's |
| 08:53.36 | Mr_Rabies | does bluetooth audio sound remotely decent yet? |
| 08:53.42 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 08:53.45 | Mr_Rabies | last time i tried it was during like, the 2.0 days |
| 08:53.48 | Dagmar | A2DP works fine |
| 08:54.03 | Dagmar | That was probably prior to A2DP |
| 08:54.11 | Mr_Rabies | my friend's car has bluetooth support but it only works as a headset, not music playback |
| 08:54.16 | Mr_Rabies | :< |
| 08:54.36 | Mr_Rabies | gotta put the whole car on your head though, it's pretty inconvenient |
| 08:54.59 | Dagmar | Mine does both. |
| 08:55.04 | Mr_Rabies | (it has a handsfree bluetooth phone feature) |
| 08:55.09 | Mr_Rabies | you can like |
| 08:55.16 | Mr_Rabies | trick it sorta, but it's not really reliable |
| 08:55.19 | Dagmar | Calls come in, speakerphone time. Otherwise, most of my stuff is on random shuffle at max volume |
| 08:55.21 | mckenziemc | yeah those remote-control vehicles are a bit concerning too :P |
| 08:55.42 | Mr_Rabies | you can get it to stick the audio output from the phone through bluetooth but it eventually drops anyway |
| 08:56.07 | Mr_Rabies | basically you can rely on older bluetooth tech being unreliable |
| 08:56.14 | Mr_Rabies | and two wrongs can indeed make a right |
| 08:56.16 | Mr_Rabies | fora short time |
| 08:56.43 | Dagmar | That's got to be an old unit then |
| 08:56.57 | Dagmar | Your phone almost certainly supports pairing both modes simultaneously |
| 08:59.00 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, the phone doesn't |
| 08:59.16 | Mr_Rabies | i think the next year's model from his supports a ton of bluetooth stuff |
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| 09:00.40 | Dagmar | I'm somewhat lucky in that my car stereo also reads mass-storage |
| 09:01.33 | Dagmar | if I *really* need to, I can unplug from the 12v "accessory port" and connect to it's USB input. I just like the interface on my phone better. |
| 09:01.49 | Dagmar | It's not like i'm listening to opera |
| 09:02.32 | Dagmar | I listen to Industrial and Techno. A little added distortion adds flavor. ;) |
| 09:04.33 | Dagmar | The only side effect of connecting the other way around is the car stero makes very poor value judgements. |
| 09:04.48 | Dagmar | Ringtones look a lot like music to it. Heh |
| 09:06.56 | Dagmar | Play a stock ringtone in the car sometime and watch what your passengers do. |
| 09:07.40 | Dagmar | A notification tone at a busy intersection? Half a dozen people grab at their pockets |
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| 09:09.06 | Mr_Rabies | mine is the "drowning music" from sonic 2 |
| 09:09.32 | Mr_Rabies | longterm pavlovian reaction to that sound |
| 09:09.53 | Mr_Rabies | and by that, i mean i begin drooling, immediately |
| 09:10.21 | Dagmar | Heh. I talked a camgirl into giving me a copy of the tip jingle file. |
| 09:10.27 | Dagmar | Best $5 I've spent in a long time |
| 09:11.00 | Dagmar | Go into any public library and play it _just once_ |
| 09:11.25 | Dagmar | My parents were actually married for two years when I was born, thank you. |
| 09:13.58 | Dagmar | If you get caught doing that, it's just a sound effect from an old instant messenger you used to use that you now use as your notification sound and you have no idea what they might be talking about. |
| 09:16.57 | Dagmar | I figure I have about a week left before it will no longer be safe to pull that trick on my gf because she's in Oslo |
| 09:17.21 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 09:17.54 | Dagmar | She's Hangout-called me at Tenn Tech a couple of times, but that's only an hour and a half drive |
| 09:18.56 | Dagmar | I'm hoping a three week buffer and a 15 hour plane ride will give her time to forget. |
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| 09:26.10 | mckenziemc | probably a good thing i can't quite figure out what you're talking about |
| 09:28.03 | Dagmar | There are a *lot* of camsites whose girls all seem to have the same ting-a-ting-a-ting sound effect when they're tipped |
| 09:28.17 | Dagmar | Several were working somewhat discretely from college libraries |
| 09:28.37 | Dagmar | Word having gotten around most librarians have heard something aobut it by now |
| 09:28.47 | Dagmar | For certain a whole lot of guys have |
| 09:28.50 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 09:29.30 | Dagmar | I thought, "I wonder how uniquely memorable that sound is" and got to work experimenting on the populace at large |
| 09:31.48 | Dagmar | Far more entertaining than hiding an annoy-a-tron |
| 09:34.43 | karl_w_w | i really like being able to delete web page elements you don't want |
| 09:35.30 | karl_w_w | that floating header which just gets in the way? bang, fuck off! |
| 09:36.21 | Dagmar | Super handy when you're trying to print something to PDF |
| 09:37.07 | mckenziemc | noscripts karl_w_w |
| 09:37.24 | Mr_Rabies | i have my prat set to play the "get hearts" sound from link to the past so uh |
| 09:37.31 | Mr_Rabies | when guild chat, etc happens |
| 09:37.37 | Mr_Rabies | or maybe raid chat? |
| 09:37.51 | Mr_Rabies | so when i play LttP my brain goes a bit haywire at times |
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| 09:48.07 | mckenziemc | well fuck |
| 09:48.15 | mckenziemc | my GPU is below absolute zero now |
| 09:49.00 | mckenziemc | -999C according to speedfan :D |
| 10:01.06 | karl_w_w | what does msi afterburner say mckenziemc? |
| 10:01.34 | mckenziemc | i restarted speedfan and it's normal now |
| 10:02.25 | karl_w_w | wow, what a normie |
| 10:03.17 | mckenziemc | reminds me of when i installed a different fan monitor that had an option to shut down / hibernate the computer when the temperature went out of range (forget when/why) |
| 10:03.37 | mckenziemc | the cpu temp would sometimes read -128 and the program would shut the computer down >.> |
| 10:05.06 | karl_w_w | 6 hours VIad :o |
| 10:05.20 | mckenziemc | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugarloaf well then |
| 10:05.43 | karl_w_w | damn, not a bubblegum pop version of meat loaf |
| 10:05.47 | karl_w_w | very disappointed |
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| 10:35.31 | Semlar | sugar nips? |
| 10:36.21 | mckenziemc | yes semlar? |
| 10:36.33 | Semlar | you're not neffi |
| 10:36.41 | mckenziemc | :( |
| 10:38.32 | Semlar | i think i should throw together an addon to help my guild with mannoroth |
| 10:43.54 | zenzelezz | "//TODO REMOVE THIS IN PRODUCTION MODE" - last line of code in a function |
| 10:44.38 | mckenziemc | i think that's what FIXME is for :< |
| 10:45.30 | mckenziemc | maybe with a bit of refactoring |
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| 11:07.47 | Semlar | look what you did |
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| 11:31.14 | zenzelezz | "I should try listening to this C++ podcast"... naturally the episode I start is one hour of "today our guest is X who is going to tell us why he loves Rust" |
| 11:31.24 | zenzelezz | that ended that attempt |
| 11:37.43 | karl_w_w | ff record keeper confirmed best mobile game |
| 11:44.15 | karl_w_w | why would you want to listen to a c++ podcast |
| 11:44.55 | Semlar | "Mannoroth should no longer use his Shadowforce ability on players already affected by Mannoroth's Gaze." lol |
| 11:45.08 | mckenziemc | "because" >> karl_w_w |
| 11:45.27 | mckenziemc | yes, that's backwards (i think) |
| 11:45.29 | mckenziemc | i'm tired |
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| 13:28.00 | nevcairiel | Semlar: old hotfix is old |
| 14:22.44 | wodim | anybody remembers if the ruins of lordaeron existed in wotlk? |
| 14:23.19 | karl_w_w | it was much smaller |
| 14:23.45 | Kalroth | it was added in arena season 2 |
| 14:23.46 | wodim | i'm trying to get there but i don't know if they existed or they were added in cata |
| 14:23.49 | wodim | no no |
| 14:23.52 | wodim | not the arena |
| 14:23.58 | wodim | in the overworld |
| 14:24.37 | karl_w_w | what do u mean trying to get there |
| 14:24.48 | karl_w_w | how would u walk in to undercity if they arent there :P |
| 14:25.00 | wodim | grrr |
| 14:25.20 | wodim | I just... don't see anything there |
| 14:25.22 | nevcairiel | it was always there, but in cataclysm it was re-worked like many places to support flying |
| 14:25.35 | nevcairiel | but we warned you before to not bring private server discussions here |
| 14:26.02 | wodim | I'm not discussing anything related to any server |
| 14:26.07 | wodim | I'm asking something about a zone |
| 14:26.09 | wodim | what's your problem |
| 14:28.38 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: what if it's a public server! |
| 14:29.01 | wodim | imagine I'm just using a model viewer. |
| 14:29.08 | wodim | did that zone exist? |
| 14:29.17 | Kalroth | he already answered you |
| 14:29.22 | Kalroth | it was always there |
| 14:29.24 | wodim | right. |
| 14:29.27 | wodim | thank you. |
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| 15:53.04 | Stanzilla | http://omgstanposts.tumblr.com/post/125088436233/how-the-warlords-of-draenor-legendary-quest-line |
| 16:00.35 | VIad | Semlar: flightmap addon doesnt work in ghostlands/bloodelf area |
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| 16:56.35 | karl_w_w | it's started VIad :D |
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| 16:59.47 | kd3 | whee, SGDQ's starting soon |
| 16:59.58 | kd3 | and they're probably already behind |
| 17:00.13 | Simca | oh, sick |
| 17:00.18 | Simca | i needed something to watch |
| 17:00.36 | karl_w_w | VIad, https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/wiki/events/ti5 |
| 17:00.41 | VIad | :O |
| 17:00.42 | VIad | oh right |
| 17:00.44 | VIad | awesome |
| 17:00.44 | Simca | thanks kd3 |
| 17:00.47 | kd3 | yw |
| 17:02.21 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 17:02.38 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 17:04.28 | kd3 | and the stream's live, whee |
| 17:05.12 | Simca | the room is a lot bigger than before |
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| 17:07.47 | nebula169 | too much going on z.z ti on one monitor, esl on another, gdg on another |
| 17:09.59 | karl_w_w | there's 2 TI streams nebula169 :P |
| 17:10.13 | karl_w_w | 4 tomorrow |
| 17:10.27 | nebula169 | yea, i know ;; |
| 17:13.05 | Simca | stanzilla: - MoneyReward from "-1999999" to "-2000000" |
| 17:13.27 | Simca | got notifications like that for every quest in the game with a negative quest reward |
| 17:13.42 | Simca | I wonder if they used one's complement numbering for some reason |
| 17:14.02 | Simca | and switched to two's complement in 6.2 |
| 17:14.24 | kd3 | alright, they're showing the crowd this time |
| 17:17.48 | Simca | SGDQ's site says Doctors without borders does cancer research |
| 17:18.10 | Simca | my understanding was that it was a bunch of doctors who went to places in desparate need of doctors, regardless of country |
| 17:18.19 | Simca | not a research organization |
| 17:18.40 | Simca | (not that it's a less worthy cause) |
| 17:48.53 | VIad | who is looking forward to CISPA? |
| 17:53.27 | Stanzilla | Simca: nice, how do you detect it btw? watch the files? |
| 17:54.09 | Simca | aggregate WDBs from tons of users, basically |
| 17:55.13 | Simca | (wowdb finally got a bit of dev time, decided to spend it on something potentially useful for news purposes) |
| 17:55.39 | Stanzilla | nice |
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| 18:17.59 | VIad | someone should make five nights at freddys addon that just scares you randomly. |
| 18:18.07 | VIad | install addon and giggle. |
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| 18:41.24 | karl_w_w | holy shit that archon vs mvp ending |
| 18:54.25 | karl_w_w | http://everyonegetinhere.com/ lol |
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| 19:34.03 | mckenziemc | hellos Cairenn |
| 19:34.10 | Cairenn | hi |
| 20:03.39 | kd3 | 31k in yoshi's island. wow |
| 20:05.48 | mckenziemc | that's cold |
| 20:11.10 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/Q512mfX.jpg |
| 20:11.12 | karl_w_w | hohoho |
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| 21:55.38 | karl_w_w | https://www.facebook.com/smoothfm915/videos/755555054513832/ |
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| 22:01.55 | kd3 | hm, sgdq is already running almost 30 minutes behind. not an auspicious start |
| 22:03.18 | nebula169 | kd3: they were offline after yoshi's island for awhile to fix things with the stream |
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| 22:31.29 | fewyn | rip my gold |
| 22:31.36 | fewyn | bought a wow token and back down to 5k |
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| 22:58.33 | kd3 | wow, kinda disappointed how empty the streaming room is for this |
| 23:02.22 | Kraps | fewyn: i need gold for fast flying pls gib |
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| 23:34.39 | kullervo | fewyn: I thought you had like 3 mil |
| 23:34.54 | fewyn | on my suspended account i'm currently close to gold cap |
| 23:36.26 | mckenziemc | shouldn't've gotten suspended |
| 23:44.50 | nebula169 | whats with the kill/save the animals comments people make in donations |
| 23:45.27 | kd3 | it's for metroid. at the very end of the game, you can save the animals at the cost of a few frames, or let them die |
| 23:45.36 | nebula169 | ah |
| 23:47.07 | kd3 | we're still in the first 7 hours, and kill the animals is at 3k, save the animals at 2k |
| 23:47.36 | kd3 | this is almost always the single-biggest bid in GDQ at the end of the week |
| 23:49.01 | kd3 | for reference, in AGDQ this winter, save the animals won with 180k to kill's 175k |
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