| 00:02.19 | foxlit | (or perhaps even just encounter design) |
| 00:03.34 | Semlar | my secondary class would also be hunter |
| 00:03.49 | Semlar | i would be a double hunter |
| 00:04.14 | foxlit | you would typically not draw those from the same pool of classes. |
| 00:04.21 | Semlar | it would be like a normal hunter but twice as huntery |
| 00:04.38 | Dagmar | Double-BM here at the moment |
| 00:04.56 | Semlar | alright fine, a hunter warlock then |
| 00:05.16 | foxlit | still the same pool. |
| 00:05.37 | Dagmar | Mainly it's less annoying to double-spec BM than it is to swap out birds for the extra pet focus talent |
| 00:05.38 | Semlar | but i could turn into a demon |
| 00:05.45 | Dagmar | Arent' there toys for that? |
| 00:05.47 | Semlar | and shoot demon arrows |
| 00:06.02 | Dagmar | I think I've got something in my bags somewhere that lets me turn into a fuckin' chicken dinner |
| 00:06.41 | Stanzilla | Simca Maldivia got it do dl yet? |
| 00:07.26 | Dagmar | A hunter warlock would be insanely OP |
| 00:07.26 | karl_w_w | https://imgur.com/gallery/CAw88 |
| 00:07.55 | Dagmar | Focus regens much faster than mana. Being able to fill HP bars with that and vice-versa would be pornographically overkill |
| 00:08.28 | Dagmar | ...and remember what it was like then warlocks got SP from practically every damn stat at once |
| 00:08.51 | Dagmar | Hunter+Warlock... just take the greed button off the roll frame. |
| 00:09.12 | Dagmar | If it wasn't primarily +str you could lay a need claim on it |
| 00:10.42 | Dagmar | karl_w_w: Right in the feels, man |
| 00:18.23 | Simca | Stanzilla: no, but i didn't try to trick the app into doing it |
| 00:18.26 | Simca | been busy |
| 00:18.33 | Simca | and agent isn't SUPER interesting |
| 00:22.41 | Stanzilla | Simca: it said version 2 and app-refactor :p |
| 00:23.23 | Simca | bna is app, this is the background process that does downloading and such |
| 00:23.53 | Stanzilla | I know |
| 00:24.09 | Stanzilla | oh and it was product-refactor not app |
| 00:24.11 | Stanzilla | but yeah |
| 00:24.30 | Stanzilla | there is nothing else to be excited about atm, so this it is! |
| 00:36.19 | pompy | old but :o https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150518/10184631038/fbi-investigating-chris-roberts-hacking-flight-wifi-taking-control-engines.shtml |
| 00:37.32 | Dagmar | They need to calm the fuck down about that in the press |
| 00:38.38 | Dagmar | Them getting shrill won't do anything but put people in a position where they have to be assholes about it |
| 00:39.48 | Dagmar | ...especially considering the _massive_ liability that the airlines are going to be subject to if that was even possible. That's likely to make them slower to resolve it, not less. |
| 00:39.53 | Dagmar | er faster |
| 00:40.28 | Dagmar | They'll be trying to avoid catching a massive lawsuit in the face instead of expending every possible effort to fix it |
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| 00:43.01 | Dagmar | I wouldn't have poked the engine like he did, but i've accidentally removed my own library late fees before because I didn't believe what I was seeing, and I sure as hell wouldn't bother to avoid a late fee of two dollars when it's in my pocket and I'm already in the building. |
| 00:44.13 | Dagmar | (everything else in the system returned an error message when you tried to do something you werne't allowed to do, except the command I laughingly tried. Turns out if you send it _a second time_ it just goes ahead and does it.) |
| 00:45.11 | Dagmar | With people super-tense about it, if someone made the insane-o decision to link avionics and entertainment, when questioned about it internally, _they're going to lie_ and cross their fingers. |
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| 01:56.45 | Simca | Semlar: did you kill Zakuun? |
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| 01:57.10 | Semlar | yeah |
| 02:02.48 | VIad | I only got him to 5% in HC |
| 02:03.52 | Semlar | well, we'd been killing him without much difficulty until they broke the fight the other day |
| 02:04.02 | Semlar | so that was fun |
| 02:04.04 | VIad | how break? |
| 02:04.18 | kullervo | invisible waves, I hear |
| 02:04.37 | VIad | just jump and run franticly |
| 02:04.43 | Semlar | people were getting hit by waves from the other phase |
| 02:04.52 | Semlar | and the tanks were taking a ton of additional damage |
| 02:05.05 | Semlar | like enough that it would kill them |
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| 02:06.14 | kullervo | you need more brewmasters going ONE MILLI000000N ABSORB, ima face check ALL the mechanics! |
| 02:06.37 | Semlar | our dk died through purgatory :( |
| 02:07.08 | VIad | tbh monk is cheat with that invinsibility thing |
| 02:07.17 | kullervo | VIad: which one? |
| 02:07.19 | kullervo | :D |
| 02:10.27 | VIad | zen meditation can save you from nearly everything not related to boss auto attacking oyu |
| 02:10.29 | VIad | you* |
| 02:10.47 | kullervo | diffuse magic does the same for all magic while EVERYTHING is auto attacking you |
| 02:10.49 | VIad | its really good panic buton |
| 02:11.13 | VIad | that too yes |
| 02:11.23 | kullervo | fort brew just makes you practically immune to melee damage that doesn't ignore armor |
| 02:11.37 | kullervo | since you'll have like 80% stagger or someshit plus the damage reduction |
| 02:12.44 | kullervo | and let's not discount dampen harm. While only 50% for three hits, it's always very amusing to see 1-2 million damage absorbed from a single hit. |
| 02:13.10 | VIad | maybe I roll monk more seriously at some point |
| 02:13.14 | VIad | atm I cant handle their playstyle |
| 02:13.20 | kullervo | not many can |
| 02:13.21 | VIad | dunno, just something about them |
| 02:13.35 | kullervo | it's the "just chill and wait til you go low health" class |
| 02:13.54 | kullervo | you're not supposed to panic about not being topped off, unlike other tanks that gain no benefit whatsoever from being low |
| 02:13.55 | VIad | I hate having too many buttons. like I already use 1-6 with modifies and the mouse buttons and modifiers, thats a lot of combinations. still if I cant get all my spells on there I am kind of "sigh" |
| 02:15.15 | kullervo | ... also no other tank has to move constantly to use one of their main mechanics |
| 02:15.47 | VIad | I still stand by that druids are worst atm |
| 02:19.49 | kullervo | they're actually fairly strong |
| 02:20.17 | kullervo | second-highest dps too |
| 02:20.25 | kullervo | dks being the best |
| 02:21.29 | VIad | main active mitigation is savage defense and it was, not long ago, changed to include 25% physical damage reduction as well. because only having 45% chance to dodge was shit, since in the case it failed, you got hit for all the damage so kind of lame :p |
| 02:21.42 | VIad | at least now you get hit but slightly less but still I find it a bit iffy |
| 02:21.58 | kullervo | yeah except if you talent savage defense |
| 02:21.59 | VIad | spell wise not sure how a guardian can reduce spell dmg unless using the 3 min cd |
| 02:22.19 | kullervo | barkskin |
| 02:22.42 | kullervo | druid tank on the caster at orc council is pretty op |
| 02:22.50 | kullervo | completely negates the burst |
| 02:23.16 | VIad | how do they handle for instance reaver? |
| 02:23.18 | kullervo | and if you get ranged assisting the druid on interrupts they'll take basically no damage at all during the whole encounter |
| 02:23.20 | VIad | artillery |
| 02:23.32 | kullervo | barkskin and massive healthpool |
| 02:23.35 | kullervo | not like it hits that hard |
| 02:23.53 | Semlar | one of our tanks is a druid so |
| 02:24.07 | kullervo | or stack avoidance |
| 02:24.26 | VIad | doubt anyone stacks these odd stats :p |
| 02:24.28 | kullervo | if it's an issue... I mean, there's the kazzak trinket that by itself caps avoidance |
| 02:24.30 | VIad | leech, avoidance, ugh |
| 02:24.53 | kullervo | they're both very strong stats. Very telling you'd be having tank issues if you don't recognize their value. |
| 02:25.28 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.28 | VIad | usually those stats are fairly low prioritized compared to the primary and secondary stats |
| 02:26.32 | VIad | nice gear |
| 02:26.42 | kullervo | Semlar: I had those boots with a socket and sharded them because eww |
| 02:26.46 | VIad | avoidance is like 0.15 on the scale |
| 02:27.17 | kullervo | yes but it's helpful on specific mechanics if your guild would otherwise struggle |
| 02:27.29 | Semlar | good luck gearing for avoidance |
| 02:27.35 | VIad | :D |
| 02:27.36 | kullervo | Semlar: kazzak trinket |
| 02:27.38 | VIad | avoidance only tank |
| 02:27.42 | kullervo | it caps it |
| 02:28.50 | VIad | btw when you pug each serious wipe try should add chance to your personal loot |
| 02:28.55 | VIad | like 7 hours archimonde got 14gold -_- |
| 02:29.26 | kullervo | Semlar: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/defias-brotherhood/Adenosine/advanced |
| 02:29.27 | Semlar | people would just wipe on purpose |
| 02:29.32 | VIad | theoretically can happen several weeks in a row, considering a lot of my normal kills usually dont reward me gear I actually need, like I get drops on the crap items and when I need loot I dont get it :p |
| 02:29.34 | kullervo | would have >12% avoid if I got the tier pants |
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| 02:29.47 | VIad | hence why I said "serious wipe" blizz would have to put in some detections |
| 02:30.13 | Amarande | VIad: that's how loot RNG is supposed to work |
| 02:30.23 | Semlar | how could you possibly tell the difference between an intentional wipe and an accidental one |
| 02:30.24 | kullervo | very hard to determine, and it would punish guilds who don't wipe |
| 02:30.34 | Amarande | just like how when you play Curse of the Azure Bonds, you get a random Cleric scroll with one spell on it ... Snake Charm! :) |
| 02:30.37 | VIad | personal loot only for pugging dunnop |
| 02:30.40 | Thordurin_Laptop | hugs Cairenn |
| 02:30.47 | Thordurin_Laptop | hugs dolby |
| 02:31.02 | mckenziemc | breaks Thordurin's laptop |
| 02:31.05 | Amarande | (One, Curse of the Azure Bonds is the ONLY game in that series THAT HAS NO SNAKES, and two, you don't get to take any items from that game into the next one ... heh) |
| 02:31.10 | Thordurin_Laptop | no.jpg |
| 02:31.29 | kullervo | Semlar: I actually got brf mythic belt from chest but opted to keep the current one due to avoidance and more optimal stats despite +5 ilvl |
| 02:31.45 | Amarande | Semlar: remember when tanks used to be basically required to gear for avoidance? :) |
| 02:31.47 | Semlar | ilevel only stat |
| 02:32.13 | Amarande | 102.4% or bust! :) |
| 02:32.18 | VIad | back in the day "avoidance" meant dodge+parry+miss i.e. total % that you could avoid damage, potentially |
| 02:32.53 | VIad | yeah |
| 02:33.25 | VIad | the new stat reduces aoe dmg |
| 02:34.02 | Amarande | VIad: wait, doesn't that mean that with enough of it ... you CAN just stand in fire? :) |
| 02:34.07 | VIad | yes! |
| 02:34.17 | Amarande | heh, this is going to not end well in the long run |
| 02:34.26 | VIad | method probably stacked avoidance on everyone |
| 02:34.37 | Amarande | this is bound to lead to fight design just making the fire so absolutely lethal that even with avoidance you can't afford to stand in it :) |
| 02:34.44 | Amarande | and then we'll have FFXIV Titan EX like battles and mages will cry |
| 02:35.00 | VIad | perfect pug killer - put that fight as entry fight and laugh |
| 02:35.33 | Amarande | hah, you should see duty finder groups for the EX primals on FFXIV |
| 02:35.49 | Amarande | yes, they do have random queue pugs for what's essentially mythic |
| 02:36.16 | Amarande | no, the success rate is not something to write home about |
| 02:36.53 | VIad | we need deflect stats for tanks |
| 02:37.04 | VIad | to completely avoid the damage and hit the boss with their own spells! |
| 02:37.09 | kullervo | like DKs? |
| 02:37.12 | Iriel | If any of you live in portland OR, what the hell was the deal with the weather this week? |
| 02:37.16 | Amarande | ... dude, they're warriors/death knights/paladins/monks/druids, not Jedi :) |
| 02:37.53 | Amarande | if you want a jedi, SWTOR is over that way ---> |
| 02:37.54 | Amarande | :) |
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| 02:47.04 | VIad | higher loot % when you pug. because spending hours to kill bosses with randoms then you leave raid without any improvements for the whole week :( |
| 02:47.21 | VIad | guilds dont need incentive to have tanks, only pugs |
| 02:47.49 | Semlar | maybe pugs need incentives to find guilds |
| 02:48.21 | VIad | maybe pugging is better for those that dont have time to commit to guilds raiding |
| 02:48.37 | Fisker | accidentally wakes up from a nightmare and hugs Cairenn |
| 02:48.37 | Semlar | you had 7 hours to dedicate to pugging archimonde |
| 02:48.44 | Semlar | that's more than i raid in a week |
| 02:48.45 | VIad | you cant be in a hc guild and raid once a week when you feel like it, but you can in a pug. |
| 02:48.58 | VIad | but in a guild if you only could come once in a while theyd replace you for a new tank |
| 02:51.00 | Semlar | puts fisker to sleep |
| 02:51.13 | Fisker | Rude |
| 02:58.14 | Semlar | they should add a combat log event for knockbacks |
| 03:03.22 | VIad | http://imgur.com/r/wow/UANfufh |
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| 03:12.14 | VIad | Semlar: just a mind exercise |
| 03:12.29 | Semlar | what |
| 03:13.04 | VIad | how would you solve this? http://alarwowaddons.googlecode.com/svn/Blizzard/FrameXML/RaidFrame.lua |
| 03:13.20 | VIad | RaidInfoFrame_Update function |
| 03:13.23 | Semlar | we already talked about this |
| 03:13.25 | VIad | format("%x%x" part |
| 03:13.27 | VIad | yeah |
| 03:13.31 | VIad | but how would you fix it |
| 03:13.41 | VIad | I mean you want to make sure you are selecting the selected item |
| 03:13.43 | Semlar | there's no reason to do anything to the numbers |
| 03:13.45 | VIad | regardless if the list changes |
| 03:13.46 | Semlar | just concat them together |
| 03:13.51 | VIad | ! |
| 03:14.01 | VIad | how long do you think it will take |
| 03:14.04 | VIad | for the fix to be implemented? |
| 03:14.31 | VIad | considering there are a lot of threads about this https://www.google.no/search#q=raidinfoframe_update+site:eu.battle.net |
| 03:14.55 | Semlar | frankly i'm surprised it isn't already fixed |
| 03:15.00 | VIad | I like the EU forums |
| 03:15.01 | VIad | "If you have reported it in-game, that's great, we can look into this from there." |
| 03:15.19 | VIad | like basically the blue posts on EU say "just post it with the ingame tool we cba to actually escalate it properly to the dev team" |
| 03:15.39 | Semlar | since apparently it's making the raid info tab completely unusable |
| 03:15.43 | VIad | yeah |
| 03:15.51 | VIad | and errors ingame for normal players |
| 03:16.01 | Semlar | pfft who plays with errors on |
| 03:16.05 | VIad | many suggest to disable lua error reporting as a fix |
| 03:16.07 | VIad | yeah right |
| 03:16.19 | VIad | errors? just disable error reporting and the problem is solved |
| 03:16.55 | Trela | It works great for PHP. |
| 03:17.22 | VIad | error_reporting(-1) |
| 03:22.58 | Semlar | i could write an addon that would stop the error but it would taaaaaaaint |
| 03:23.35 | Semlar | eh, what are the odds it would affect anything important |
| 03:31.29 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 03:31.31 | Fisker | I forgot to hey you |
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| 03:43.27 | Semlar | VIad: do you still have a broken instance ID |
| 03:43.58 | VIad | probably on my extendable lockouts? |
| 03:45.19 | Semlar | you could see if http://semlar.com/addons/RaidInfoFrameFix.zip breaks anything |
| 03:48.32 | Semlar | i don't think it would throw an error for anything except saved instances though |
| 03:49.23 | Semlar | actually, even if it's greyed out if it's still in the list it should |
| 03:53.50 | Semlar | every bug report for this i've seen was on eu |
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| 04:02.52 | WrathTECH | Whats the best way to get a list of all party/raid member names? Using a for loop? |
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| 04:10.31 | Semlar | yes |
| 04:21.39 | WrathTECH | I must have learned something in the last 3 months. Though this next addon is going to be a huge pita. |
| 04:26.01 | Shirik | 7.5 earthquake in ... I dunno some island I've never heard of before |
| 04:26.05 | WrathTECH | Aight, so I got the for loop to print all player names in a group. Question is though, how do you make a list displaying all the names... :S |
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| 04:56.29 | Torhal | Shirik: WAT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Late_Late_Show_with_Craig_Ferguson - (Redirected from Dana DeLorenzo) |
| 04:56.34 | Torhal | o.O |
| 04:56.45 | Shirik | ? |
| 04:56.57 | Torhal | Why is Wikipedia trolling me? |
| 04:57.24 | Shirik | I don't understand |
| 04:57.29 | Torhal | From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_Darkness - In addition to Campbell, the series will star Dana DeLorenzo and Ray Santiago [44] |
| 04:57.43 | Torhal | And Dana DeLorenzo redirects to that... |
| 04:57.44 | Torhal | Dafuq? |
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| 04:58.37 | Fisker | Hey Torhal |
| 04:58.38 | Shirik | long story short it looks like back in 2007 she was not notable enough for her own article, and got merged into "Mancow's Morning Madhouse" |
| 04:58.40 | Fisker | Hey Shirik |
| 04:58.53 | Shirik | that was since updated into TLLS because she changed jobs |
| 04:59.01 | Shirik | effectively she doesn't have her own article |
| 04:59.16 | Torhal | So it has that weird-ass redirect. Oookay. :D |
| 04:59.28 | Torhal | Hey Fisker |
| 04:59.29 | Torhal | Foo? |
| 04:59.30 | Fisker | You have your own article for me Shirik <3 |
| 04:59.32 | Torhal | Cairenn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t23Cy2FfVec |
| 04:59.38 | Fisker | No Torhal |
| 04:59.47 | Torhal | Oh. |
| 05:00.05 | Shirik | why is that cat wearing a skirt |
| 05:00.06 | Fisker | However bar |
| 05:00.20 | Torhal | Good question, Shirik. |
| 05:00.25 | Torhal | People do weird things to animals. |
| 05:00.38 | Fisker | Don't need to hear more |
| 05:06.01 | Fisker | I'll hey you Torhal |
| 05:06.23 | Torhal | Wow, Fisker. Why would you do such a thing? |
| 05:06.42 | Fisker | Because I like you |
| 05:08.12 | Fisker | And I want all the heys in the world for you |
| 05:08.18 | Fisker | Like hey Torhal |
| 05:08.38 | Torhal | hey Fisker |
| 05:08.41 | Torhal | Ash vs Evil Dead? |
| 05:08.53 | Fisker | Nope |
| 05:08.57 | Torhal | :O |
| 05:09.51 | Fisker | :3 |
| 05:15.55 | Fisker | I wish Shirik heyed |
| 05:26.54 | mckenziemc | hey Fisker |
| 05:27.15 | Thordurin | hugs Torhal |
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| 06:25.35 | Semlar | trolls for torhals |
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| 07:00.05 | mckenziemc | Semlar: you're doing it wrong |
| 07:00.08 | mckenziemc | stabs Torhal. |
| 07:00.25 | Semlar | brains torhal |
| 07:00.30 | mckenziemc | US dailies reset at 7 UTC? |
| 07:00.41 | Semlar | 6 EST |
| 07:00.41 | Thordurin | hugs Torhal because I'm nice like that. |
| 07:01.23 | Semlar | 3 hours from now |
| 07:02.12 | mckenziemc | oh it was events |
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| 07:03.02 | mckenziemc | and that would be EDT :p |
| 07:04.26 | Semlar | ET |
| 07:04.47 | mckenziemc | loss of information |
| 07:05.40 | mckenziemc | i don't think daily resets change with US daylight saving time (which make some sense) |
| 07:06.27 | Semlar | i don't know about that |
| 07:07.29 | Semlar | they're hard coded at 3am pacific time for the whole region |
| 07:08.31 | mckenziemc | the question is pacific civil time or fixed at pacific standard |
| 07:08.52 | mckenziemc | http://wow.gamepedia.com/Daily_quest |
| 07:09.01 | Semlar | it did fluctuate at one time |
| 07:10.06 | mckenziemc | "fluctuate" is poorly defined for the same reason :P |
| 07:10.39 | Semlar | before they normalized it across the whole region, the hour that it reset at would change |
| 07:10.42 | mckenziemc | think i remember figuring out it was fixed relative to UTC back in late bc |
| 07:10.47 | Semlar | i'm almost positive that it currently does not |
| 07:10.54 | mckenziemc | even across servers |
| 07:11.14 | Semlar | the reset time was not the same across servers |
| 07:11.38 | Semlar | you could exploit this in some situations |
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| 07:12.32 | Semlar | when they made it so you could phase onto other people's servers by joining their group they had to sync everything up |
| 07:14.06 | Semlar | i'm fairly confident the reset time is currently 6am EDT, so if this page is right about it also being 3am PST then it changes with daylight savings time |
| 07:17.46 | mckenziemc | what's the function to change seconds to days/hours/minutes/seconds? |
| 07:19.01 | Semlar | SecondsToTime? |
| 07:19.09 | mckenziemc | nvm, just did it with division |
| 07:19.28 | mckenziemc | GetQuestResetTime() confirms 3AM now |
| 07:19.51 | mckenziemc | PDT |
| 07:19.58 | Semlar | then it's always 3am |
| 07:20.28 | mckenziemc | perhaps they changed that when they normalized the times |
| 07:20.45 | Semlar | they changed it in 5.3 |
| 07:21.01 | mckenziemc | i did find the blue post about that, but still don't know if quests were indeed different per server and i'm remembering wrong |
| 07:21.05 | mckenziemc | which is possible but i'm curious :P |
| 07:21.24 | Semlar | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7200062357#1 you can see that they were on this post |
| 07:21.34 | Semlar | they specifically mention the fishing tournament |
| 07:21.44 | Semlar | people were jumping realms to abuse that |
| 07:21.55 | mckenziemc | i already checked that and was about to link it :p |
| 07:21.58 | mckenziemc | and it says 5.1 |
| 07:22.04 | mckenziemc | that's different from dailies though |
| 07:22.28 | Semlar | 5.1 is when they normalized it across the region, 5.3 is when they made it change with DST |
| 07:22.40 | Semlar | it's on the wowpedia article you link |
| 07:22.42 | Semlar | ed |
| 07:23.01 | Semlar | at the bottom |
| 07:23.29 | mckenziemc | i know |
| 07:23.33 | Semlar | you do not |
| 07:23.44 | Semlar | how dare you |
| 07:26.56 | mckenziemc | does wowpedia have a blame-like tool for page history |
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| 09:11.42 | karl_w_w | VIad, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiLwA7BkftI |
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| 11:51.34 | VIad | karl_w_w: onward my minion! http://ss.bool.no/capture_1437220291.png |
| 11:52.34 | karl_w_w | don't play with the undead, you don't know where they've been |
| 11:53.13 | VIad | being undead myself, I know where weve been |
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| 11:56.37 | VIad | you can control undead the spell flingers in old kingdom (timewalking) for awesome deeps :p |
| 12:05.10 | Simca | you can control undead the plague walkers in old kingdom to make your group happy |
| 12:06.08 | Simca | (most people don't know this or timewalking would be unbearable with trolls) |
| 12:06.19 | Simca | Aura of Lost Hope has an infinite range |
| 12:06.26 | Simca | it applies to every mob in the entire dungeon |
| 12:06.39 | Simca | so when you control them and it gets applied to enemy mobs... |
| 12:06.43 | Simca | gg |
| 12:13.19 | wodim | uh. since when you can mc the undead |
| 12:13.35 | Simca | since DKs |
| 12:14.02 | wodim | ??? |
| 12:14.10 | Simca | control undead |
| 12:14.13 | wodim | aaah |
| 12:14.15 | wodim | when was that introduced |
| 12:14.16 | Simca | it's like enslave demon or mind control in that nobody ever uses it |
| 12:14.26 | wodim | mc is very useful in pvp |
| 12:14.29 | wodim | so yes it's used |
| 12:14.40 | wodim | hence one of the reasons of lichborne to exist |
| 12:14.44 | Simca | well control undead isn't useful in pvp, haha |
| 12:15.00 | Simca | or anything really for that matter |
| 12:15.06 | wodim | I guess |
| 12:16.50 | Simca | in LK, it was useful in raids actually, since you could steal trash and attack the bosses with it |
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| 12:17.05 | Simca | but that was the last time there were undead in raids |
| 12:18.54 | wodim | in lk there was no control undead |
| 12:19.22 | wodim | that's why i asked since i still play that |
| 12:19.24 | wodim | heh |
| 12:20.21 | Simca | i think it was added in 4.3.4 or 5.0.3 |
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| 12:59.43 | Fisker | hugtackles Cairenn |
| 12:59.50 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
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| 13:13.40 | Fisker | :P |
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| 14:14.51 | karl_w_w | Fisker, if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear |
| 14:31.12 | Kalroth | if you have nothing to nothing, you have fear to hide |
| 14:44.08 | zenzelezz | fear cuts deeper than swords |
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| 14:49.31 | Jamash | my sister got me a 1920x1080 monitor for my birthday to replace the 720p tv I was using :D |
| 14:49.51 | Jamash | now all my games look waaaaay better |
| 14:49.57 | Kalroth | wat |
| 14:50.25 | zenzelezz | Jamash: grats |
| 14:50.37 | zenzelezz | though I must say I'm surprised you used a 720 |
| 14:51.09 | Jamash | Didn't have a choice. I'm an unemployed student. |
| 14:51.17 | Fisker | You always have a choice |
| 14:51.50 | Jamash | This is true. I could have stolen a monitor. But I didn't. |
| 14:51.53 | zenzelezz | Jamash: not like I have a complete overview of everyone in the channel's employment status :D |
| 14:52.25 | Fisker | That's terrible Jamash |
| 14:57.10 | Jamash | zenzelezz: not saying you should have :P |
| 15:04.53 | Jamash | is there a straightforward way to get a RGBA screenshot that preserves the alpha transparency of a WoW UI window? |
| 15:11.37 | karl_w_w | what Jamash? |
| 15:11.46 | karl_w_w | you want to take a multi-layer screenshot? |
| 15:12.25 | Jamash | karl_w_w: I want to put an image of my addon on a web page, that has the same transparency that the addon window has in WoW |
| 15:13.04 | zenzelezz | this post amuses me https://instagram.com/p/4_gCwiNuZ7/ |
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| 15:22.45 | karl_w_w | it does zenzelezz? |
| 15:22.57 | zenzelezz | you think I'm lying? |
| 15:24.23 | Jamash | I *think* I can get what I want by making one screenshot with a white background and one with a black background and taking the difference |
| 15:27.35 | foxlit | Jamash: "straightforward" that is not. |
| 15:28.50 | Jamash | Yes, well, I don't know of a straightforward way, which is why I asked :) |
| 15:29.52 | foxlit | there probably isn't one to begin with. |
| 15:33.36 | foxlit | what you're suggesting -- multiple images and math -- would probably work, but I'm not sure whether difference is really what you're looking for there. |
| 15:34.52 | karl_w_w | zenzelezz, well I suppose taking pictures like that is all someone can do when they aren't good enough to get a TI invite |
| 15:35.08 | karl_w_w | ooh gonna need the fire service for that sick burn |
| 15:36.16 | Jamash | what's TI? |
| 15:36.35 | foxlit | something lame and dota-ish. |
| 15:36.37 | Jamash | Texas Instruments? |
| 15:36.41 | Jamash | oh, the international |
| 15:37.09 | Jamash | I managed to make it work, despite the fact that I'm using The GIMP, which is not designed to be used by human beings |
| 15:38.28 | Jamash | put images on top of each other, difference mode, copy visible, paste as new layer, invert, layer to layer mask, copy mask to selection, add layer mask from selection to original image |
| 15:38.35 | Jamash | not pretty but it worked |
| 15:38.57 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: not sure what you mean; she was at TI3 and 4 |
| 15:39.25 | Jamash | ...realize screenshots are JPGs, shoot self |
| 15:40.00 | Jamash | anyway I have the basic principle established |
| 15:41.08 | karl_w_w | but not TI5 zenzelezz |
| 15:42.03 | Jamash | nobody cares about DOTA |
| 15:42.13 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: still don't get why you're talking about TI in the first place; the post had nothing to do with it |
| 15:42.42 | karl_w_w | that's clearly not true Jamash |
| 15:43.24 | Jamash | karl_w_w: Nobody who matters cares about DOTA |
| 15:44.00 | karl_w_w | wow what a heretic, you think gaben doesn't matter? :P |
| 15:46.35 | mckenziemc | Jamash: you can change wow to make targa screenshots |
| 15:46.50 | mckenziemc | sceenshotFormat CVar iirc |
| 15:48.40 | Jamash | mckenziemc: used a screen-capture program instead |
| 15:49.20 | Amarande | GIMP is not designed to be used by human beings? |
| 15:49.32 | Amarande | I can't imagine Photoshop being significantly simpler, either, to say nothing of the more advanced professional tools |
| 15:49.48 | zenzelezz | some would say GIMP was designed for human beatings |
| 15:50.00 | mckenziemc | stabs Amarande. |
| 15:54.26 | Jamash | Amarande: Have you ever tried to _use_ GIMP? |
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| 15:56.20 | zenzelezz | GIMP is fine for simple things |
| 15:56.28 | zenzelezz | it probably can do advanced too, if you take the time |
| 16:01.09 | Jamash | hmm, it partially worked, it isn't transparent enough |
| 16:01.18 | Amarande | Jamash: I have, it doesn't seem too bad, apart from the fact that it takes an inordinate amount of time to load up on Windows (something about fonts, apparently) |
| 16:01.43 | Amarande | mind you, I suck at graphics, so I don't really use the advanced features very much if at all anyway heh |
| 16:07.31 | Jamash | me too |
| 16:07.38 | Jamash | I'm trying though, thus the frustration |
| 16:07.46 | Jamash | I think I may have to resort to actual math |
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| 16:23.42 | foxlit | the horrors! |
| 16:27.13 | foxlit | on the bright side, that is 6 equations for 4 unknowns, so it's easy to find out if your color-mixing model is completely wrong. |
| 16:29.42 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5O-oIUXIjo doesn't he just sound like he has great difficulty talking |
| 16:30.34 | karl_w_w | he doesn't talk til 8 minutes I think |
| 17:08.35 | Jamash | Ok I figured it out, probably doing a lot more algebra than necessary. The alpha channel is exactly the difference between the images taken with black and white backgrounds, as desired. I then *divide* the black-background image by the alpha channel to recover (approximately) the original colors. They'll be remultiplied by alpha for display, so precision loss is irrelevant. |
| 17:09.09 | p3lim | huh, you can't die in tanaan intro |
| 17:09.46 | Jamash | that only took...two hours |
| 17:16.17 | zenzelezz | Jamash: what is the goal behind this? |
| 17:16.35 | Jamash | zenzelezz: get a transparent png I can put on a webpage that looks just like my addon |
| 17:17.05 | Jamash | yes, I could just use an opaque screenshot |
| 17:17.53 | Jamash | but I've done all the work, so might as well reap the benefits |
| 17:32.50 | zenzelezz | you "could just" a lot of things, but where's the fun in that |
| 17:42.44 | VIad | arena/bg dispells my mining pick buff :p |
| 17:42.57 | fewyn | the queue time for the new lfrs are insane |
| 17:42.59 | fewyn | 2 hours |
| 17:46.12 | VIad | :( |
| 17:46.43 | VIad | only russians in skirmish pvp |
| 17:46.47 | VIad | doing it to reset my rare crystal :p |
| 17:49.13 | Semlar | hacks vlad |
| 17:49.30 | VIad | blizz does it for me |
| 17:50.22 | Semlar | but you're exploiting the system |
| 17:53.10 | VIad | so many people are apparently |
| 17:54.10 | VIad | I was very slow to figure out it worked. happened by randomness |
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| 17:55.47 | VIad | got bored. did like 20 times to try get the rare achievement one but nope |
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| 18:21.57 | karl_w_w | I didn't realise weed was so popular in the hearthstone community https://twitter.com/ArchonAmazHS/status/622235070988877824 |
| 18:23.59 | fewyn | so an open source project i've been "managing" for the last 8 years or so has always been hosted on sourceforge... and with them basically having lost our SVN repo (unsure if they are going to be able to recover it) we are looking into alternatives that isn't Github (some of our devs oppose it for some insane reason?) any suggestions |
| 18:24.14 | fewyn | was looking at bitbucket |
| 18:24.23 | fewyn | (looking for stuff that is free) |
| 18:25.21 | Amarande | usually the bitbucket is not only free, but it has unlimited storage! good luck getting anything back out, though :( |
| 18:25.37 | Amarande | oh, not *that* bitbucket. :) |
| 18:25.46 | fewyn | atlassian |
| 18:26.53 | Amarande | how did sourceforge lose your svn repo, though? *blink* |
| 18:27.17 | Amarande | or do "accidents" like that regularly befall people who, say, refuse to use sourceforge's adware-offers-laced special installer? :P |
| 18:28.16 | fewyn | sourceforge had a big data loss event |
| 18:28.22 | fewyn | they are in disaster recovery mode pmuch |
| 18:28.24 | fewyn | right now |
| 18:28.57 | fewyn | project pages are up but any dev tools are still down |
| 18:29.23 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/sourceforge |
| 18:29.57 | wodim | it does not say "data loss" anywhere |
| 18:29.59 | wodim | fud much? |
| 18:30.11 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/sourceforge/status/622167694545154049 |
| 18:30.21 | Amarande | mind you sourceforge has become increasingly abandoned lately by projects |
| 18:30.23 | wodim | storage platform bug means loss? |
| 18:30.24 | wodim | yeah |
| 18:30.30 | Amarande | it's developed an excessively bad reputation due to aforementioned adware |
| 18:30.31 | fewyn | pretty much code word for loss |
| 18:30.54 | Amarande | and apparently they actively incentivise developers to use the adware-laden installer, too |
| 18:31.19 | Amarande | not quite sure just how they twist people's arms into it, it's not like they're going to make that much money off of it |
| 18:31.29 | fewyn | they just don't tell them |
| 18:31.34 | fewyn | they tried doing that with our project |
| 18:31.58 | Amarande | seeing how the total usage figures for most foss projects on windows seem to be low, and most people who do use foss projects on windows say no to adware installs as a matter of course |
| 18:32.13 | Amarande | fewyn: huh. they add the installer themselves? I thought devs added installers to programs, not sourceforge |
| 18:32.27 | fewyn | they have created a wrapper |
| 18:32.27 | Amarande | sourceforge just tries to get you to choose theirs |
| 18:32.31 | fewyn | that wraps itself around it |
| 18:32.38 | fewyn | the original installer |
| 18:32.51 | Amarande | the paranoid conspiracy theory would be also that they punish people who refuse to use it somehow |
| 18:32.55 | fewyn | "thankfully" my project is all java so we don't have that issue |
| 18:33.02 | Amarande | not that I can really think of a way they'd do it |
| 18:33.05 | fewyn | we used to provide an exe build tho |
| 18:33.27 | Amarande | unless they secretly put negative flags on your Dice profile that anti-SEO you when prospective employers search, heh |
| 18:33.32 | fewyn | the only thing we really use sourceforge anymore for is "official" builds and svn |
| 18:33.52 | Amarande | wait didn't you just go through a load of trouble finding a job ... |
| 18:33.58 | fewyn | yeah |
| 18:33.59 | fewyn | i did |
| 18:34.04 | fewyn | i'm working in a call center now |
| 18:34.20 | fewyn | it's so much fun |
| 18:34.24 | Amarande | sad thing come to think of it though is that one could arguably justify such a negative flag on someone's employee prospect profile too :| |
| 18:34.48 | Amarande | because it could be argued on the lines of "candidate may not mesh well with our business partnerships" |
| 18:35.01 | Amarande | if you're refusing to work with bundled adware offers and such :P |
| 18:35.43 | Amarande | mind you, even without the installer crap, sourceforge has pretty much jumped the shark |
| 18:35.54 | Amarande | especially since they refuse to filter out "fake download button" ads on the download page :| |
| 18:36.08 | fewyn | i've been trying to talk the devs on this project out of using it for years |
| 18:40.06 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/Xr2YpQu.jpg only slightly out of date |
| 18:41.24 | fewyn | what |
| 18:41.29 | fewyn | how can you be that far behind |
| 18:41.34 | fewyn | also who still uses adobe air? |
| 18:41.39 | Gnarfoz | warcraftlogs uploader |
| 18:42.26 | Simca | which, believe it or not, was created in the last year |
| 18:42.31 | Gnarfoz | I have Sriracha potato crisps. :D |
| 18:47.09 | Simca | gdi |
| 18:47.30 | Simca | i hate file permissions on a single-user PC |
| 18:47.45 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/TCO8zAz.jpg I AM SIMCA-PC\Simca |
| 18:48.35 | Semlar | denied |
| 18:50.20 | Amarande | Simca: yeah, it's what I in general regard as the worst thing about Windows |
| 18:50.33 | Amarande | the fact that in general it seems to have 47 million ways to cause you to lose access to your data |
| 18:50.43 | Amarande | like I said, I consider it a megacorporate fault, heh |
| 18:50.58 | Amarande | not even a conspiracy theory there, but simple business and paradigm matters surrounding how windows is made |
| 18:51.02 | Simca | Windows/Mac/Linux all use similar file permission systems |
| 18:51.12 | Simca | (since Vista anyway) |
| 18:51.22 | Gnarfoz | if that's actually from an old installation |
| 18:51.30 | Gnarfoz | then no, you're probably not SIMCA-PC\Simca |
| 18:51.32 | Amarande | microsoft's biggest market are large corporations, any corporation worth their salt uses a deny-first security paradigm, so windows is set up around such |
| 18:51.39 | Simca | it's just a shitty concept on a single-user PC in general |
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| 18:51.47 | Gnarfoz | Windows is a multi-user OS |
| 18:51.49 | Gnarfoz | not single-user |
| 18:51.57 | Gnarfoz | (and security identifiers are not accounts' display names) |
| 18:51.57 | Simca | there is no single-user OS in this day and age |
| 18:51.58 | Amarande | even though it's the opposite of what an individual PC owner wants (which is usually allow-first security, since well, it's my machine, my data) |
| 18:52.00 | Gnarfoz | exactly |
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| 18:53.39 | Amarande | therefore, you run into all kinds of disasters where some sort of permission check fails, and of course it's designed, deny unless specifically granted permission, so DENIED :( |
| 18:53.52 | Gnarfoz | I much prefer Windows' fine-grained permissions over Linux' basic permissions; Linux' ACL stuff I find quite annoying to use |
| 18:54.36 | Gnarfoz | (which might be because I don't get to use a GUI for it) |
| 18:55.40 | Simca | i dislike them about the same |
| 18:56.02 | Amarande | I find Linux' permissions are perfect for a basic single user setup, though, and precisely because there's so little that can go wrong in the basic case |
| 18:56.39 | Amarande | security identifiers are simple numbers, as well, so if you've got an old disk with files that aren't owned by anyone on your new installation, you can pretty easily see what must be done to regain access |
| 18:57.07 | Amarande | ... regenerating a same user id on windows is apparently voodoo that even WoW trolls probably prefer to stay away from :) |
| 18:57.30 | Simca | there are shortcuts |
| 18:57.53 | zenzelezz | the sysadmins on one place I was hired as a consultant one year managed to give me and someone else ID 10000 |
| 18:58.10 | zenzelezz | was interesing when after some hours of work, suddenly my commits were from "dpjohan" rather than "lasseh" |
| 18:58.13 | Amarande | the other thing being, on linux the powers of root are essentially absolute |
| 18:58.18 | Simca | i use this to keep my sanity - http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/2814-take-ownership-add-context-menu-windows-8-a.html |
| 18:58.38 | Amarande | on windows, 'local administrator' is a far less universal thing, and sometimes I've even seen 'administrator' permission not quite be so, like the "maintenance in progress" bug |
| 18:59.01 | Simca | but in cases where there are a ton of different owners (TrustedInstaller, SYSTEM, the old user, and others) it isn't flawless |
| 18:59.40 | Amarande | Simca: yeah, all those UIDs that only programs normally have access to, that's what I mean by comparison to "root is absolute" on linux |
| 19:00.06 | Amarande | and even human access isn't consistent, like the other day I had to help a family member with her laptop |
| 19:00.14 | Amarande | it was stuck saying "maintenance in progress" in the action center |
| 19:00.42 | Amarande | if you tried to stop it, it would say denied, you need admin permission, even though by default you have an admin account when you set yourself up on 8.1 |
| 19:01.19 | Amarande | had to actually go use the command prompt and admin tools (which for some reason her account DID have permission to use, even though just plain clicking on "stop maintenance" said no) |
| 19:03.30 | Simca | yeah denying because of admin permission when you are on an admin account is a stupid scenario that shouldn't exist |
| 19:03.58 | Simca | there should be alternate code to detect that and then ASK if you want to elevate the program's access to admin |
| 19:04.34 | Shirik | I mean if that's what you want, you can set it up that way |
| 19:04.54 | Shirik | that's just not the default scenario because microsoft correctly determined most people are stupid and can't be trusted with an admin account |
| 19:05.32 | Shirik | so what they call an admin account is actually just a restricted account that can be given administrative privileges upon prompting |
| 19:05.40 | Shirik | it's more like a sudo-authorized account |
| 19:05.50 | Amarande | Shirik: part of that is due to overintegration too, I suspect |
| 19:05.51 | Simca | yeah |
| 19:06.03 | Semlar | it's lies, all lies |
| 19:06.08 | Amarande | when you have shitty decisions like integrating the default web browser as deeply to the system core as IE is ... |
| 19:06.08 | Shirik | however, microsoft (like linux) decided that an application cannot be "promoted" to admin |
| 19:06.21 | Shirik | it either starts as the admin user or it starts as a restricted user, and there it shall stay |
| 19:06.23 | Amarande | you kinda need to balance them by limiting access levels, I suppose :| |
| 19:06.57 | Shirik | applications that request admin rights in the middle of them running do so by spawning a new process |
| 19:07.00 | Amarande | otherwise you're practically running X as root :) |
| 19:07.01 | Fisker | Hey Shirik |
| 19:07.04 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 19:07.27 | Amarande | and even Linux users, where malware is orders of magnitude less of a threat, consider that to be on the wild side |
| 19:09.22 | Fisker | I like you Shirik |
| 19:13.02 | Simca | Fisker: halp |
| 19:13.14 | Fisker | Hi Simca |
| 19:13.17 | Fisker | What's up? |
| 19:13.20 | Simca | does using paladin hero power count as playing a 1 attack minion for Hobgoblin? |
| 19:13.29 | Fisker | No |
| 19:13.35 | Simca | qq |
| 19:13.50 | Fisker | Play = place it from your hand |
| 19:14.10 | Fisker | Summon doesn't care about how the minion gets on the board |
| 19:17.07 | Dagmar | Shirik: I'm not sure I'd credit Microsoft for that "decision" being that it came a decade too late |
| 19:17.59 | Fisker | Apps have never been promotable to admin |
| 19:18.07 | Fisker | So they can't be too late |
| 19:18.39 | Simca | lol |
| 19:19.38 | Amarande | yeah, but some stuff is just odd |
| 19:19.46 | Amarande | like being told you need admin when you're in control panel, action center |
| 19:19.51 | Amarande | shouldn't control panel *always* be admin? |
| 19:20.08 | zenzelezz | no |
| 19:20.12 | zenzelezz | there are user-specific things |
| 19:20.38 | Amarande | or at least, shouldn't every system-wide-controlling subapp of control panel have launched with admin the moment you chose to launch it? |
| 19:21.02 | Amarande | (I think some do, but it's not consistent) |
| 19:27.09 | Simca | Fisker: is everyone doing this brawl playing druid? |
| 19:27.41 | Fisker | Dunno |
| 19:28.14 | Fisker | Doesn't really make sense that it would |
| 19:34.32 | Simca | jesus i just drew 2 rags back to back |
| 19:35.08 | Fisker | I'll draw you back 2 back |
| 19:35.09 | zenzelezz | why do you have two rags in your room |
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| 19:36.24 | Simca | he quit when i played the second rag |
| 19:38.43 | Amarande | ponders a moment and plays ... a Wild Draw Four, a three of clubs, a card that says "The Trail of Tears" in black text on white, a Serra Angel, and a Get Out of Jail Free card |
| 19:38.44 | Amarande | :D |
| 19:40.45 | Amarande | Simca: ugh, ragequitters ftl. :( |
| 19:41.47 | Simca | well he was a few DIE INSECT! from dead |
| 19:50.59 | zenzelezz | he didn't even get to taste the flames of Sulfuron? |
| 19:52.18 | fewyn | man usa really struck gold with mr robot |
| 19:52.21 | fewyn | this series is great |
| 19:55.39 | Dagmar | I'm still waiting for someone to get shot |
| 19:55.56 | Dagmar | The scriptwriters are almost certainly on a watchlist now |
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| 19:58.54 | zenzelezz | how come? |
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| 20:12.41 | Amarande | Dagmar: bread and circuses are important, I can't imagine the government wanting to interfere with people's idleness :) (Then again, that didn't save Cat Stevens, soo ... :S) |
| 20:13.33 | Dagmar | I keep reminding people it's considered appropriate to applaud a good theatrical performance. |
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| 20:14.25 | zenzelezz | that must be why people always applaud politicians at rallies |
| 20:14.46 | Dagmar | I'd thought there'd be more applause at airports. |
| 20:15.14 | zenzelezz | people make theatrical displays there? |
| 20:15.14 | Amarande | Dagmar: if standing in line was considered great entertainment, Disney wouldn't even need to maintain rides :) |
| 20:15.27 | Dagmar | Security theatre |
| 20:15.32 | zenzelezz | oh |
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| 20:16.27 | Dagmar | I applauded after my sixth "random" "enhanced screening" in a row |
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| 20:17.46 | Dagmar | I don't passive-aggressively tweet about that sort of thing, I mock them right then and there. |
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| 20:36.38 | Primer | !toc |
| 20:42.46 | Jamash | oh dear |
| 20:43.53 | Jamash | SPOT THE BUG: local Spell = self.Spell.Book[i] while Spell do self:AddButton(Spell);i = i + 1; spell = self.Spell.Book[i] end |
| 20:45.36 | Jamash | Dagmar: why not do both? |
| 20:46.47 | foxlit | slaps Jamash with a for loop. |
| 20:48.16 | Jamash | foxlit: I don't think there's an api function to get the highest valid index in the spellbook |
| 20:49.51 | foxlit | slaps Jamash with a different kind of for loop. |
| 20:49.52 | foxlit | better? |
| 20:52.24 | Jamash | Actually I can use GetSpellTabInfo, so yes there is |
| 20:57.30 | Jamash | statement forloopified |
| 20:58.11 | Semlar | foxlit = foxlit + 1 |
| 20:58.30 | foxlit | iirc the two don't quite match. |
| 20:58.58 | Jamash | the two what? |
| 21:00.42 | Jamash | wow, I fixed one miscapitalization and not the other, good job |
| 21:02.09 | Semlar | that's why i just code in all caps |
| 21:02.11 | Jamash | and miscapitalized something else |
| 21:02.21 | Jamash | that's one solution, certainly |
| 21:02.37 | Jamash | I've considered coding in all lowercase |
| 21:03.04 | foxlit | can I suggest coding in all-uppercase instead? |
| 21:05.03 | Jamash | no |
| 21:05.12 | Jamash | Semlar already did |
| 21:05.49 | Jamash | also I disabled caps-lock on an OS level |
| 21:06.43 | kd3 | hmm... https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/3do9k0/sourceforge_is_down_due_to_storage_problems_no_eta/ct77o49 |
| 21:21.41 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/aHAewOr.jpg http://i.imgur.com/uLdod4n.jpg srs. |
| 21:21.54 | Simca | why would you ask me if i wanted it AND THEN SAY NO |
| 21:22.35 | mckenziemc | because Fisker |
| 21:24.33 | kullervo | Simca: whicht folder is it |
| 21:24.54 | kullervo | goes to drink water |
| 21:25.36 | Primer | My PB4 raid frames still aren't fully loading in bgs... |
| 21:26.00 | Primer | I can see the bg is full via /raidinfo, yet I'm always missing a few people |
| 21:26.26 | Primer | I can trigger event via /run, right? What should I try when this happens again? |
| 21:26.46 | Simca | kullervo: D:\bca1af747637391b57ea6b4e92\1040\ |
| 21:26.55 | Simca | I have no idea how it got there, probably during the windows upgrade |
| 21:27.16 | kullervo | Simca: it's probably not really there, browse to D and hit refresh |
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| 21:27.47 | kullervo | windows upgrade indeed spawns temp folders like that but explorer fails to flag them as removed |
| 21:28.25 | Simca | i think you're right |
| 21:28.28 | Simca | but refresh isn't fixing it |
| 21:28.30 | Simca | lol |
| 21:28.54 | Simca | says the folder structure is 0 bytes in total, but it still thinks it exists |
| 21:29.15 | Jamash | kd3: brings new meaning to "lights-out datacenter" |
| 21:29.48 | kd3 | ya |
| 21:30.35 | Simca | i added full control for admin for bca1af747637391b57ea6b4e92 and it removed it and the subfolders this time |
| 21:30.36 | Simca | weird |
| 21:34.36 | Jamash | Simca: D: is the saddest drive |
| 21:34.45 | Simca | true |
| 21:34.47 | kullervo | and C: is the happiest |
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