| 00:00.37 | mckenziemc | no lua bot in the channel? |
| 00:00.41 | mckenziemc | :p |
| 00:12.22 | mckenziemc | so apparently the lua binary complains about #math but will just run without output with table.maxn(math) D: |
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| 00:31.23 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1436833880.png bye draenor! |
| 00:32.24 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Proper Comic-Con https://www.dropbox.com/s/1xz91sp8xas3ag0/Screenshot%202015-07-13%2019.31.44.png?dl=0 |
| 00:32.59 | Arrowmaster | i want to try the quarter cask |
| 00:33.11 | Arrowmaster | who was drinking it at comic-con |
| 00:33.28 | Torhal | Outlander panel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsWogWcOyYQ |
| 00:39.53 | VIad | has anyone seen so far south of draenor? |
| 00:46.49 | mckenziemc | no one who hasn't been banned (jk) |
| 00:47.01 | VIad | lol |
| 00:48.20 | VIad | this is interesting |
| 00:48.23 | VIad | no one has been here? |
| 00:48.33 | VIad | just shinri over the water with waterwalking from darkroost isle :D |
| 00:49.29 | MiRai | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/3csy7r/south_of_shadowmoon_requires_waterwalking_to_get/ |
| 00:50.04 | mckenziemc | log out, back in, Character not found |
| 00:50.24 | Amarande | "also, don't swim in the water to the sides of the landmass! Instant-kill." |
| 00:50.31 | Amarande | ... don't tell me Blizzard copped out in the way I think they did |
| 00:50.52 | mckenziemc | kills Amarande. |
| 00:51.04 | VIad | you can swim but like 1 yards down and death |
| 00:51.23 | Amarande | They copypasted Draenor from Outland and instead of having a proper ocean floor they just left it as "fall off the world" like Outland, didn't they. :| |
| 00:53.22 | mckenziemc | ressurrects and kills Amarande for using "copypaste". |
| 00:53.41 | mckenziemc | minus an s |
| 00:55.59 | VIad | :< |
| 01:00.09 | mckenziemc | statistics homework please be done now, i'm too addicted to wow :( |
| 01:02.50 | VIad | mckenzie! |
| 01:30.49 | kullervo | VIad: I was there on saturday |
| 01:31.22 | VIad | secret meeting spot? |
| 01:31.43 | kullervo | super secret meeting |
| 01:32.01 | kullervo | I recon there might be unmapped areas north of draenor too |
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| 02:37.53 | pompy | http://www.cnet.com/news/man-arrested-accused-of-shooting-down-neighbors-drone/ |
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| 02:38.31 | Dagmar | pompy: Yeah fuck that guy |
| 02:38.46 | Dagmar | That was savage and ridiculous behaviour by any measure at all |
| 02:39.53 | Amarande | wow, that zero-day is fucking up the whole internet |
| 02:39.57 | Amarande | "Google Safe Browsing recently detected malware on www.cnet.com. Websites that are normally safe are sometimes infected with malware." |
| 02:40.08 | Amarande | ... I'm sure it's through flash ads |
| 02:40.08 | Dagmar | I just took the easy way out. I blacklisted the fucking zone in my DNS server |
| 02:40.27 | Amarande | I have flash disabled in chrome atm anyway |
| 02:41.05 | Arrowmaster | im running an ancient version of flash on linux, im probably safe |
| 02:56.12 | Arrowmaster | how much of an asshole should i be |
| 02:57.41 | Arrowmaster | somebody i went to highschool posted a pic on facebook with the text "type yes if you should help jesus up" and i just want to reply no |
| 02:57.52 | Arrowmaster | would |
| 03:01.08 | Neffi | looking good Semlar http://i.imgur.com/hJJof.jpg |
| 03:01.31 | Semlar | :O |
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| 03:36.08 | kd3 | hm, my first month-long electric bill... $25. not bad |
| 03:38.06 | kd3 | though it's still nuts... $0.16/kWH out here... it was $0.074/kWH back in atlanta |
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| 03:43.50 | Kraps | hots is fun, especially when you win |
| 03:50.49 | Ressy | geez. chepa |
| 03:50.52 | Ressy | err, cheap |
| 03:51.02 | Ressy | I'm paying lik $55/month, for a 2 bedroom. |
| 03:54.53 | kd3 | part of why my bill's so cheap is: https://twitter.com/Kaydeethree/status/607378978731520000 |
| 03:55.08 | kd3 | I still don't have any furniture in my living room (moved from a studio) |
| 03:55.49 | kd3 | though the fridge from the 60s doesn't help much... https://twitter.com/Kaydeethree/status/607383516750356481 |
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| 04:08.21 | j311yf1sh | lol |
| 04:15.45 | Amarande | furniture? who needs furniture? as long as there's a place to put the PC |
| 04:16.13 | kd3 | that's what this is: https://twitter.com/Kaydeethree/status/616076468427227137 |
| 04:31.26 | Dagmar | I have to say I wouldn't mind a return to some of the design aesthetics of the 70's, where if you bought a large TV it came built into a giant-ass table. |
| 04:31.44 | Dagmar | I could deal with a 19' half rack in highly polished walnut grain. |
| 04:31.49 | Dagmar | er 19" |
| 04:33.04 | mckenziemc | installs a 19' TV in Dagmar's yard. |
| 04:33.23 | Dagmar | My parents still have one. |
| 04:33.35 | Dagmar | It doesn't _work_ but it's beautiful woodwork. |
| 04:34.33 | Dagmar | They've also been told if they sell or otherwise do away with the six foot wide mahogany stereo without giving me a chance to snag it for refurbishing that I will see to it they land in an assisted living facility notorious for both it's unsanitary conditions and the sadism of it's employees. |
| 04:35.16 | Dagmar | Refurbishing it would be *easy*. It's so big you can climb inside the damn thing to mount new speakers |
| 04:37.04 | mckenziemc | sadistically reminds Dagmar "it's" is a contraction, never possessive. |
| 04:38.10 | Dagmar | reminds mckenziemc he has access to a stereo large enough to store a body for long term purposes. |
| 04:38.48 | mckenziemc | on the plus side |
| 04:39.03 | mckenziemc | pidgin saved me from misspelling sadistically |
| 04:42.17 | mckenziemc | Dagmar: it's not your's though |
| 04:42.18 | mckenziemc | :D |
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| 08:28.39 | Gnarfoz | https://twitter.com/NASANewHorizons/status/620862807672643584 soon⢠|
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| 12:09.00 | pompy | Gnarfoz: https://twitter.com/NASANewHorizons/status/620924478789320706 gogo |
| 12:10.20 | Torhal | pompy: COMPUTER SIMULATION (PREVIEW) |
| 12:10.23 | Torhal | Ya think?!? |
| 12:11.37 | pompy | Torhal: "ya think"?? |
| 12:11.50 | Torhal | Yeah. It's obviously not a real image. |
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| 12:12.19 | Gnarfoz | go where? |
| 12:12.44 | Kalroth | To Mars! |
| 12:12.48 | Gnarfoz | now it's time to wait for the stuff to finish so it can start transmitting at the enormous speed of 1 kbit/s :D |
| 12:13.19 | pompy | http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html ? its the telemetry that it's sending back |
| 12:13.27 | pompy | at a slow rate! |
| 12:13.33 | pompy | but yeah news briefing http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html |
| 12:13.48 | pompy | sticky links! |
| 12:13.55 | Torhal | Repost! |
| 12:14.01 | pompy | ! |
| 12:14.32 | Kalroth | gasp |
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| 12:30.08 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
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| 12:39.32 | mitch0 | what's the difference between "recharge" (as in 8 sec recharge for Lava Burst) and cooldown (as in 30 sec cooldown for Frost Nova) ? |
| 12:40.13 | karl_w_w | nothing, except that recharge is used when referring to spells with charges |
| 12:41.44 | mitch0 | and how do you get the remaining time for the recharge? |
| 12:42.27 | nebula169 | GetSpellCharges(id) |
| 12:42.36 | mitch0 | hrmp |
| 12:42.42 | nebula169 | charges, maxCharges, started, duration = |
| 12:43.03 | mitch0 | smells like work :( |
| 12:44.37 | mitch0 | thanks for the info |
| 12:50.58 | nevcairiel | note that when you used up all charges, the normal cooldown stuff also activates |
| 12:51.08 | mitch0 | uh |
| 12:51.30 | mitch0 | so, say it has 3 charges, I use 1 then I have to wait 8 sec before I can use the second? |
| 12:51.34 | mitch0 | or how does it work? |
| 12:51.52 | mitch0 | gah, gotta run |
| 12:52.03 | mitch0 | will read later if you explain :) |
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| 13:05.52 | nevcairiel | nah you can use all 3 in one go, it takes 8 seconds to get one back |
| 13:08.01 | mitch0 | ah |
| 13:08.32 | mitch0 | and when you can't use it, it's effectively on cooldown? as in, GetSpellCooldown will return meaningful results? |
| 13:08.48 | nevcairiel | when you used up all charges, yes |
| 13:08.56 | mitch0 | and GetSpellBaseCooldown? |
| 13:09.15 | mitch0 | meh, guess I'll have to experiment |
| 13:10.38 | nevcairiel | no idea what that gives you |
| 13:10.53 | nevcairiel | getspellcharges and getspellcooldown work on the active currently running cooldown |
| 13:11.13 | nevcairiel | getspellcharges gives you the time until the next re-charge, even if there is still charges left |
| 13:11.19 | nevcairiel | many classes have those, so just test =p |
| 13:11.27 | mitch0 | yeah |
| 13:11.39 | mitch0 | what's the lowest level spell with this mechanic? |
| 13:11.46 | mitch0 | I only have starter edition at the moment ;) |
| 13:11.47 | nevcairiel | no clue |
| 13:14.54 | sb | charges on spells? panda roll maybe |
| 13:17.23 | Maldivia | yeah, roll should be level 5 |
| 13:19.42 | mitch0 | thanks |
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| 14:02.12 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Fiskerboo. Work is rather worky today! |
| 14:02.32 | mckenziemc | get back to work then :o |
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| 14:03.14 | mckenziemc | and take amarande with you |
| 14:03.27 | Amarande | ? |
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| 14:14.33 | p3lim | foxlit: You're detecting the wrong quest for the 1000 garrison cache size |
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| 14:30.39 | Dagmar | For those wondering why the fuck they're looking at picture after picture of a bunch of science nerds instead of a planet... https://instagram.com/p/5HT9Ggksmb/ |
| 14:32.19 | Dagmar | After seeing my fifteenth picture of a bunch of nerds staring at a computer, I just went to bed |
| 14:33.02 | Gnarfoz | no planet was going to be shown anyway |
| 14:33.27 | Dagmar | I figured if they found anything cool like evidence of a lost civilzation, people would start hammering my phone and get me back up |
| 14:33.37 | Gnarfoz | ah yes. that'd be tomorrow. |
| 14:34.02 | Gnarfoz | when they actually get more than basic telemetry data from the probe |
| 14:34.36 | Dagmar | I couldn't escape the irony that quite honestly, if most of the people reading those tweets wnated to see a geek staring at a computer, all they had to do was pull out a pocket mirror |
| 14:36.07 | Gnarfoz | among them: you |
| 14:50.51 | Dagmar | Hey at least I'm aware of it |
| 14:51.24 | Dagmar | Hell, I help throw Phreaknic each year. Geeks in front of technology is something I've seen a million times already |
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| 15:09.13 | Torhal | pompy: http://explosm.net/comics/latest |
| 15:15.11 | znf | oh man, I really need to fix my sleeping schedule back to my "normal" |
| 15:18.01 | Gnarfoz | I've been trying that for 15 years |
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| 15:27.27 | nevcairiel | you should re-define normal and then see it diverge from that again, eventually reaching other peoples normal |
| 15:28.26 | Semlar | redefines nevcairiel |
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| 15:29.00 | Torhal | realizes Semlar as a closure. |
| 15:29.11 | Semlar | D: |
| 15:42.55 | znf | Gnarfoz, _my_ normal |
| 15:43.07 | znf | like, I want to go to sleep at 6am and wake up at ~13-14 |
| 15:43.26 | znf | last night I drunk, dunno when I went to sleep |
| 15:43.30 | znf | woke up at 10am |
| 15:43.36 | znf | then I came back home at 14 |
| 15:43.40 | znf | went to sleep... |
| 15:46.03 | Gnarfoz | as redditors say: I know that feel |
| 15:52.26 | znf | now... let's get the hell out of the house! |
| 15:52.34 | znf | that reminds me, I have to move tomorow, I have no idea where :D |
| 15:52.50 | nevcairiel | bridges |
| 15:52.53 | nevcairiel | where trolls belong |
| 15:52.54 | znf | we have none! |
| 15:53.55 | znf | and let's hope I get to meet Mistery Chick tonight! |
| 15:54.45 | Gnarfoz | oO |
| 15:55.03 | Gnarfoz | mystery poultry! |
| 15:55.06 | znf | heh |
| 15:55.39 | znf | Went out for drinks a few nights ago with a chick that is our client at the pub. Turns out, she's into me for some reasons. Also married. But into me... Stuff happened. Yay. |
| 15:56.40 | Semlar | homewrecker! |
| 15:56.54 | znf | He's a sailor. She's "hungry". |
| 15:57.13 | znf | More power to her. |
| 15:58.49 | nevcairiel | adultery gets you into hell |
| 15:59.01 | znf | that's good, because it doesn't exist! |
| 15:59.12 | nevcairiel | they'll open one for you |
| 16:11.50 | znf | Does that mean I get to run it? |
| 16:11.52 | znf | With blackjack |
| 16:11.55 | znf | And hookers |
| 16:12.05 | nevcairiel | which you'll never win and never touch |
| 16:12.05 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 16:12.09 | nevcairiel | its hell afterall! |
| 16:26.56 | Dagmar | znf: Replace my usual caveat of "the husband may have a gun" with "the husband may have access to hundreds of square miles of open water in which to dump a body" |
| 16:30.28 | znf | Score. Her friend told me that she's coming around here. |
| 16:32.02 | Ressy | Oddly enough, the thing I'm more concerned with is the "is our client" |
| 16:32.32 | Ressy | But him being a sailor.. Is bad for you man. |
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| 16:35.22 | Gnarfoz | thing are different in the land beyond the land beyond the forest |
| 16:35.38 | Gnarfoz | *things |
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| 16:54.21 | Neffi | Semlar: why did you eat all my graphics? http://imgur.com/a/iQqa2 |
| 16:54.36 | Semlar | improved |
| 16:55.30 | Neffi | i guess it's p fit |
| 16:55.37 | Semlar | it's my tf2 mod |
| 16:55.55 | Neffi | it's skurm tho |
| 16:56.13 | Semlar | well it turns skyrim into tf2 |
| 16:56.36 | Neffi | but I dont think I can play like this :( |
| 16:56.56 | Semlar | i think you can |
| 16:57.12 | Neffi | no i dont think so |
| 16:57.19 | Neffi | there arent even any shadows to hide in anymore |
| 16:58.07 | Semlar | why isn't my thing working neffi |
| 16:58.59 | Semlar | oh it returns 1 for invalid parameters |
| 16:59.01 | Semlar | of course it does |
| 16:59.36 | Semlar | 1 is a valid return, so why wouldn't they use that for an error |
| 17:00.37 | Neffi | what |
| 17:01.06 | Semlar | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/TaxiGetNodeSlot |
| 17:01.58 | Neffi | returns Semlar for invalid parameters. |
| 17:02.04 | Semlar | no take-backs |
| 17:15.18 | zenzelezz | 0, |
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| 17:25.25 | Simca | yeah 0 would make more sense for an error return, or you know, nil |
| 17:31.53 | Semlar | i was so confused why every hop for this path was resulting in the same node |
| 17:32.03 | Dagmar | That's just crazy talk |
| 17:32.44 | Fisker | time to get a watch Shirik |
| 17:32.45 | Dagmar | You keep that up and people are going to get the idea you actually expect your code to handle problems gracefully. |
| 17:32.46 | Fisker | and/or kd3 |
| 17:33.03 | Dagmar | What kind of job security is that? |
| 17:33.25 | zenzelezz | funny how power cables are always 20 cm too short (and monitor cables ~30) |
| 17:33.55 | Semlar | maybe you should move your desk |
| 17:34.10 | Fisker | My cables are never too short |
| 17:34.22 | Dagmar | Just bolt the six way power adapter to the top of the case |
| 17:34.30 | Semlar | kinky |
| 17:35.14 | Dagmar | Dude I'm over here warming up a power drill so I can mount this 15" monitor directly on the side of the new firewall's case |
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| 17:36.19 | Dagmar | Some people would say I should obtain the actual VESA mount adapter for the monitor. |
| 17:36.26 | Dagmar | I say those people have no imagination. |
| 17:37.36 | Semlar | or duct tape |
| 17:37.58 | Dagmar | If you use duct tape you lack _committment_. |
| 17:38.00 | Dagmar | :) |
| 17:38.04 | Neffi | Semlar why don't my copy of Windows fetch updates. Fix it. |
| 17:38.31 | Semlar | your copy of windows is already up to date |
| 17:38.38 | Neffi | no it's a fresh install in virtualbox |
| 17:38.49 | Dagmar | There's already four screws holding the monitor's case to it's internal frame under where the arm or mount attachment goes. I'm just preparing to use longer screws. |
| 17:38.51 | Neffi | been checking for updates for hours now |
| 17:39.25 | Dagmar | I just have to be somewhat precise about how long those are or I'm going to have a display with four shatter points. ;) |
| 17:39.39 | Semlar | why don't you just use shorter screws |
| 17:39.51 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: mount "adapter"? |
| 17:39.57 | Dagmar | They're recesed by about a half inch originally |
| 17:39.58 | zenzelezz | is that different from the small plate thing? |
| 17:40.29 | Dagmar | zenzelezz: The panel has a square hole in the back where you either connect it to the stand, or install a VESA mount adapter |
| 17:41.07 | Dagmar | yes the adapter is the "square plate thing" |
| 17:41.16 | zenzelezz | oh, I see |
| 17:41.46 | Dagmar | So, those four screws are already holding all the weight |
| 17:42.04 | Dagmar | I'm just going to hit up the hardware store for longer screws of a very specific length |
| 17:42.39 | Dagmar | It's going on a shelf, not on a road rally, so... that the wall of the case is kinda weak shoudln't be an issue |
| 17:42.58 | Dagmar | I might buy some washers to "fine tune" it a little |
| 17:43.06 | Unkle | So, quick "convert Unkle to a cyborg" update - I was told yesterday I will need to replace both hip joints, but that the one on the right can wait until the replacement on the left has fully healed. |
| 17:43.17 | Dagmar | OUCH |
| 17:43.20 | Unkle | So, BlizzCon is going to be extra fun for me this year. |
| 17:43.59 | Dagmar | Just make it clear that you want the painkillers _without_ the built-in nauseant |
| 17:44.11 | zenzelezz | "very specific length"; can you use one of those types that come ready to be broken into pieces? Know I've seen a few that could be broken (well, sawed) every 5 mm or so, but don't think they were meant for computers |
| 17:44.24 | Unkle | Dagmar: Hydrocodone for now. |
| 17:44.50 | Dagmar | Unkle: Some of them have an extra ingredient meant to inhibit abuse |
| 17:45.09 | Dagmar | If there's a label that says "Take with food"... _be wary_ |
| 17:45.37 | Amarande | wow, whatever happened to things like the hippocratic oath |
| 17:45.50 | Amarande | now pleasing the DEA is more important than the welfare of your friggin patient, it sounds like :| |
| 17:45.54 | Dagmar | Well, it's a mild ingredient, but some people are more sensitive to it than others |
| 17:46.04 | Dagmar | If you take it on a full stomach, generally not a problem. |
| 17:46.16 | Dagmar | Less than a full stomach and you might be praying for the sweet release of oblivion |
| 17:46.21 | Unkle | My doc said this about pain meds "You're the boss. Take meds for pain. Just be wary that any of these morphine derivatives will become less efficacious over time, and you need to leave us some room to go up when we carve your hip." |
| 17:46.58 | Dagmar | I literally left a trail of sweat on the floor as I crawled my way to the bathroom after my last knee surgery |
| 17:47.09 | Unkle | These just say that they will make me drowsy, and that booze will make that worse. |
| 17:47.45 | Dagmar | A couple of twinkies apparently does not constitute "with food" |
| 17:48.00 | nevcairiel | i got a bottle full of oxys after i messed up my foot, and all they did was make me sweat like crazy, didnt even feel much better after |
| 17:48.18 | Dagmar | I was sweating because I refuse to vomit all over everything |
| 17:48.36 | Dagmar | The housemates were all "euuuwww sweat" |
| 17:48.42 | Dagmar | Heh |
| 17:48.45 | Unkle | Yeah, I took 30mg of Oxy for pain 2 weeks ago. I got knocked out all day, sweating, itching, and all that. |
| 17:49.08 | Unkle | Did not like. |
| 17:49.23 | Ressy | get a smaller dosage? |
| 17:49.30 | Ressy | do not cut those things. |
| 17:49.34 | nevcairiel | luckily my pain threshold seems to be decently high, so i just stopped taking them rather quickly |
| 17:49.44 | Dagmar | It'll get higher. Heh |
| 17:49.58 | Unkle | Ressy; not taking it now. :) Taking basically amped up vicodin. |
| 17:50.00 | Ressy | Yeah, but for now... if it knocks him out, the dosage is too high right now. |
| 17:50.09 | Ressy | My dad's on oxy for life. |
| 17:50.14 | Dagmar | If you have bone surgery, you'll reach new heights of machismo and stoicism you never thought possible |
| 17:50.52 | Unkle | Dagmar: I've been going through massive pain for 15 years now. I'm pretty fucking stoic. |
| 17:51.36 | Dagmar | Unkle: After two knee surgeries my worst problem now is occasionally finding massive bruises on myself for injuries I didn't even notice at the time |
| 17:52.09 | Unkle | Man, that sucks. |
| 17:52.19 | Dagmar | I rode home at 45mpg in pea sized hail and would not pull over "because I was already as wet as I was going to get". I was wearing a... polo shirt. No jacket. |
| 17:52.46 | Dagmar | er 45 mph |
| 17:52.50 | Unkle | I think maybe you should check into the morgue, 'cause you may actually already be dead. |
| 17:53.13 | Dagmar | Yeah I didn't think anything of it until literally everyone I mentioned it to got this weird look on their face |
| 17:53.29 | Dagmar | I was like, oh... okay. that's not a normal response to the situation then. |
| 17:53.55 | Dagmar | If I'm not bleeding (much) and nothing's sticking out, I just ignore it |
| 17:54.08 | Dagmar | I've bounced off the pavement at speed twice now |
| 17:54.10 | Unkle | I got taken out off my bike by a june bug to the forehead at 45mph once. |
| 17:55.49 | Dagmar | I wear a full face helmet to protect my pretty face. :) |
| 17:57.20 | Unkle | Yeah, I'd cracked the face shield of my helmet earlier (truck threw a stone off a tire) and because it was completely wrecked, I unsnapped the shield and drove home to get my spare. The june bug got me about 5 miles from the house. |
| 17:57.38 | Dagmar | The second time there was a hole in my pants and blood running down my arm and I was pissed that I'd scuffed th side of the buke |
| 17:58.59 | fewyn | i wish i could trade apexis crystals for garrison resources |
| 17:59.16 | Dagmar | Go pick some trees |
| 17:59.23 | Amarande | Dagmar: ahhh, that point in life where you're more pissed about what you did to your belongings than what you did to yourself :) |
| 17:59.39 | Dagmar | If your server is anything like mine, you'll have north Gorgrond all to yourself |
| 17:59.57 | fewyn | but that involves haivng a lumber mill |
| 18:00.03 | fewyn | do i really want a lumber mill? |
| 18:00.07 | Dagmar | Amarande: I'll heal regardless. Fixing the bike takes a lot of work. |
| 18:00.23 | Simca | well, the lumber mill costs 0 resources to build and you can dump it later |
| 18:00.40 | fewyn | but i need to upgrade it and ge tthe follower for it to really be worth anything |
| 18:01.00 | Dagmar | That'll happen regardless just by using it |
| 18:01.08 | Unkle | getting the follower is worth doing. He's pretty badass. |
| 18:01.15 | Amarande | get ALL the followers! |
| 18:01.27 | fewyn | might have to do that tomorrow instead of doing tanaan then |
| 18:02.04 | Dagmar | Yeah everyone's in Tanaan now |
| 18:02.17 | Dagmar | I think I might have gotten eight rares in the Everbloom area |
| 18:02.33 | fewyn | i need 1000 resources to do the upgrade the fleet quest |
| 18:02.38 | fewyn | i only have like 539 |
| 18:02.44 | fewyn | i guess i could go finish rare/treasure hunting |
| 18:03.02 | Dagmar | You know, you _can_ actually use the ship mods more than once, right? |
| 18:03.26 | Dagmar | Maybe it's because I was picky about when I sent ships off with less than 100% chance of success. |
| 18:03.52 | fewyn | i only do ships with 80% or higher |
| 18:03.52 | Dagmar | I burned through resources on that and still had just under 4,000 resources left when I took the shipyard to level 3. |
| 18:04.02 | Dagmar | All my ships are purple |
| 18:04.04 | fewyn | yeah i am a fresh 100 |
| 18:04.10 | Dagmar | Ah okay |
| 18:04.18 | Dagmar | I was at the cap when I started |
| 18:05.23 | Dagmar | Someone should probably explain the fish nets and dwarven racials tho |
| 18:05.37 | Dagmar | 10-15 fish. I suppose if you don't fish at all that's useful |
| 18:05.53 | Dagmar | 100% more gold from naval missions tho? Why not make it 5,000% more. |
| 18:06.00 | Dagmar | It's still zero gold. |
| 18:06.25 | Amarande | Dagmar: you mean "everyone who still bothers to venture out of their garrison" which seems to be reality this xpac :( |
| 18:06.32 | Amarande | even places that ought to be abuzz, like Orgrimmar, have been ghost towns |
| 18:06.53 | Dagmar | Well, I see lots of people in Tanaan, but not anywhere else, really. |
| 18:07.16 | Dagmar | I can't say I blame them. Once you're at 100, Tanaan turns over upgrades faster than raiding it seems |
| 18:07.22 | Amarande | At least housing in SWTOR kept people in better social circulation, since the houses all share chat channels with the planets they're part of |
| 18:07.48 | Dagmar | I'm actually just flogging the hell out of those b tokens looking specifically for Feverflare gear to upgrade to 695 now |
| 18:07.57 | Amarande | and there's ... at least four planets with housing available, IIRC |
| 18:08.35 | Amarande | Dagmar: how's the random raid gear experiment working out? improvement, or "Blizz, can you send these people back to the D3 team plox"? :) |
| 18:09.24 | Dagmar | I have enough Feverflare 695's now to force me to reasses which crafted pieces I want to upgrade |
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| 18:09.37 | Dagmar | I'm still getting used to the massive jump in item level |
| 18:10.11 | Dagmar | I was trucking around Everbloom thinking maybe something was bugged. No... I was just handing out 40kDPS unbuffed. |
| 18:10.40 | Dagmar | I was asking the guild "Did they nerf this area? This used to be a slog to move through." |
| 18:10.40 | Amarande | also, that whole "let's limit the number of crafted pieces" FTL |
| 18:11.17 | Amarande | it makes one wonder how long before they decide to just phase out crafting altogether :S |
| 18:11.37 | Dagmar | Nah, it just meant people couldn't craft their way to full epics and then complain that raiding was pointless |
| 18:11.50 | Amarande | Yeah, item level jump between start and end of expansion, or even mid, is always a ... thing |
| 18:12.01 | Dagmar | ...and it also meant not going into a raids only minimally equipped |
| 18:12.35 | Dagmar | You could just count on starting out with crafted shirt pants and hat and not be called a carry |
| 18:12.38 | Amarande | Then you have people who are taking it slower (or are on newer alts) and are undergeared complain about stuff being hard and the people who've got their gear up to date look at you like a scrub because "it's easy!" |
| 18:12.50 | Amarande | Being a mage in MoP made things especially stark in that regard. |
| 18:13.02 | Dagmar | The three piece limit worked out pretty well, without being a _fixed_ three pieces |
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| 18:15.12 | Dagmar | If you went into your first raid and a new shirt dropped, you didn't have to stand there and go... "Well, it's only a lateral" because you could go get crafted gloves or boots or something |
| 18:17.02 | Dagmar | This tier has been working out pretty well for people like me who are having scheduling issues |
| 18:17.21 | Dagmar | THe guild goes raiding on the weekends, and I'm engaging in genocide on Tanaan and not really falling behind |
| 18:17.43 | Dagmar | I'll be goin' with 'em next weekend and not be a liability |
| 18:18.16 | Dagmar | ...and I'm not restricted to relying on a damn dailyl cooldown |
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| 18:31.01 | fewyn | i've got to say whoever came up with the share a coke thing is a genius... it's a great marketing campaign that combines word of mouth and social media wonderfully in this day and age |
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| 18:31.25 | Dagmar | ...and they've found a way to get people to pay $5 for a coke (and $5 more for shipping) without needing a DJ. |
| 18:32.29 | fewyn | there's not a day go by where i don't see a social media post about it |
| 18:32.58 | fewyn | also i found one with my mom's name on it a few weeks ago and posted about it myself |
| 18:33.18 | Dagmar | You can go to their site and buy one |
| 18:33.28 | fewyn | that's not as fun tho |
| 18:33.29 | Dagmar | ...with whatever name on it you want. |
| 18:33.45 | Dagmar | I'm just assuming they filter out names like 'Hitler' |
| 18:33.53 | fewyn | probably |
| 18:34.08 | Dagmar | I'm going to have to have a few drinks before I'll be able to click the button on paying $10 for a soda with my name on it |
| 18:34.11 | fewyn | my mother's name is Eva so it's not a common name so when i saw it at the store i'm like |
| 18:34.15 | fewyn | I'M GOING TO GET THAT ONE |
| 18:34.43 | Dagmar | I jsut know unless I make a trip to Germany I'm not finding one with 'Dagmar' on it |
| 18:34.58 | Dagmar | ...although I have asked a guy who is there to keep an eye out, just in case. |
| 18:35.18 | fewyn | just more enjoyable if you find them in the wild then buying them directly |
| 18:38.24 | Dagmar | Yeah, I looked everywhere I went until I found out you could just search on their site for what names had been printed |
| 18:39.49 | fewyn | i'm glad i got an umbrella... it's storming nasty outside |
| 18:39.54 | fewyn | and i need to leave for work soon |
| 18:40.00 | Amarande | Heh, last year's Share a Coke didn't include my name at all |
| 18:40.11 | Amarande | This year's apparently does, though I have yet to encounter one |
| 18:40.51 | Amarande | fewyn: glad you got an umbrella so now that you finally got a job you can get zotted by lightning on your way to work? :S |
| 18:41.43 | fewyn | probably |
| 18:42.20 | VIad | Semlar: got archimonde down in normal PUG after 7 hours of trying. dead on the 25th pull |
| 18:42.42 | Semlar | that sounds like quite a lot of work |
| 18:42.45 | Dagmar | Damn. How many times did you have to call out for replacements? |
| 18:42.49 | VIad | a lot |
| 18:43.01 | VIad | https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WNPyCvZmzkxTnhGw/ |
| 18:43.05 | Semlar | we got mannoroth down to 3% on our first pull without seeing the fight |
| 18:43.18 | VIad | I am sure your tanks has seen it :P |
| 18:43.24 | VIad | or youd be dead after the first combo or second |
| 18:43.25 | Semlar | no |
| 18:43.51 | Semlar | he did fear someone through a pillar and off the platform and he knocked one of the tanks off toward the end |
| 18:45.08 | VIad | 19/33 tome of chaos |
| 18:45.11 | Semlar | we killed him on the third pull |
| 18:45.23 | Semlar | we didn't even try archimond because raid was over |
| 18:45.40 | Semlar | well, unless you count someone yoloing into him |
| 18:47.34 | Semlar | we killed his trash and then someone ran into him and whoever was still around got him to 80% |
| 18:48.37 | Semlar | i'm not sure that counts as a pull though |
| 18:49.18 | Semlar | i don't think i got any tomes out of normal |
| 18:50.26 | Semlar | yeah, i still have 11 |
| 18:51.06 | VIad | pugging him was a horrible experience. took a lot of time. |
| 18:51.26 | Semlar | i'm not planning on pugging anything |
| 18:54.18 | Amarande | VIad: yeah, group formation is rapidly becoming an Achilles' heel for PvE MMOs :( |
| 18:54.32 | Semlar | i still haven't gotten a weapon out of HFC |
| 18:54.53 | Amarande | people get more and more used to pugs, especially since particularly you have all the newer players who have gotten used to random matchmaking being just plain how it works |
| 18:55.09 | VIad | and you can kick people after 3 fuck ups and get new once in |
| 18:55.14 | VIad | eventually the raid stabilizes |
| 18:55.15 | Amarande | (since practically all online team games nowadays use random matchmaking, often without much of an opportunity to do otherwise) |
| 18:55.27 | Amarande | except, there's the rub |
| 18:55.28 | VIad | guilds can kick noobs |
| 18:55.44 | Amarande | pugs + genuinely challenging content tends to not work out all that great |
| 18:56.08 | Amarande | no wonder EA is rolling out the next SW:TOR expansion so quick even though Shadow of Revan was quite well received |
| 18:56.21 | VIad | dunno who revan is |
| 18:56.29 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:56.34 | Amarande | and of course there's the chronic issue that's trying to play catch up on EX primals in FFXIV |
| 18:56.47 | Amarande | but making the content watered down doesn't feel right either :( |
| 18:57.12 | Amarande | VIad, did you ever play the first Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic? |
| 18:57.52 | fewyn | joy.... our street is flooding |
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| 18:58.11 | VIad | yes |
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| 18:59.00 | Amarande | VIad, then you should know who Revan is :P |
| 18:59.27 | VIad | do you know who rexxar is? |
| 19:00.13 | Amarande | Rexxar ... he's that guy out in blade's edge with the pet bear, right? |
| 19:00.43 | VIad | rexxar has some story around him but not much, only some in tbc yes |
| 19:00.49 | VIad | but you should know him! |
| 19:01.00 | VIad | and you do, as much as I know who Revan is by name :p he had some cult, thats it |
| 19:02.01 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.05 | VIad | flawless kill Semlar |
| 19:04.12 | Semlar | where we just cover half the platform in a void zone |
| 19:06.34 | Amarande | I think I remember Rexxar helping me defeat one of the Sons of Gruul in a quest at one point |
| 19:06.40 | Amarande | a quest that probably used to take a group of five, heh |
| 19:06.54 | Amarande | it's amazing how badly the Sons of Gruul have let themselves go lately |
| 19:07.32 | Amarande | like used to be when you were out in that southeastern part with the raptors and serpents (you know the one, where you used to have to go every day for those cooking dailies) you had to actually worry about Maggoc stepping on your arse even at level 70, unless perhaps you were raid geared |
| 19:07.45 | Amarande | nowadays, well, he tried to step on my level 65 ret pally and got owned :) |
| 19:08.45 | zenzelezz | I remember when Rexxar wandered Desolace aimlessly |
| 19:08.56 | VIad | did rexx have any lore in vanilla? |
| 19:08.58 | VIad | he was just roaming |
| 19:10.31 | Amarande | I'm still surprised how *easy* it was too to beat Maggoc ... I mean, five levels above me, first of all, which used to be hard even for a regular mob like he is now |
| 19:10.42 | Amarande | secondly I always remembered him as being basically the fel reaver of southeastern Blade's Edge |
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| 19:15.30 | zenzelezz | don't be surprised, they've nerfed them to hell and back |
| 19:29.39 | Ackis | pompy: harro |
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| 20:29.02 | wodim | graphical glitches in GLL mode on a Mac are to be expected? |
| 20:29.05 | wodim | this sometimes looks trippy. |
| 20:29.09 | wodim | I guess I'll resort to OpenGL |
| 20:30.52 | wodim | https://i.imgur.com/1xhqlSa.jpg |
| 20:30.52 | wodim | :-) |
| 20:32.27 | nevcairiel | dont blame blizzard, its not their faul that apple only offers ancient OpenGL APIs |
| 20:33.42 | wodim | I don't know |
| 20:33.46 | Amarande | wodim, please stop crushing and snorting your Apexis crystals, that's not what they're for :( |
| 20:33.46 | wodim | I just try not to think my card is fried. |
| 20:33.53 | wodim | https://i.imgur.com/8Q94wuR.jpg |
| 20:35.24 | wodim | what's an apexis crystal? |
| 20:35.31 | wodim | i don't do drugs, sorry. |
| 20:35.37 | wodim | :') |
| 20:37.02 | Semlar | i think there may be something wrong with your game |
| 20:37.31 | wodim | idk |
| 20:37.36 | wodim | if I switch to opengl i have no glitches |
| 20:37.40 | wodim | I was told GLL was faster |
| 20:37.47 | wodim | but I guess it's not a possibility for me |
| 20:40.04 | mckenziemc | i recommend switching to a PC |
| 20:40.11 | mckenziemc | as evil as microsoft may be :p |
| 20:40.18 | wodim | it's a hackintosh actually |
| 20:40.23 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 20:40.34 | nevcairiel | that makes it even worse =p |
| 20:41.25 | Amarande | wodim: apexis crystals are the new high end currency, basically |
| 20:41.30 | Amarande | they did away with valor and justice this expansion |
| 20:42.05 | wodim | valor points are from cataclysm? |
| 20:42.52 | Amarande | Rumour is they tried adding compassion, sacrifice, and humility points instead, but found that not enough players had the right personality to earn any of them. :) *ducks* |
| 20:43.25 | Amarande | wodim: valor points were used in cata and mop |
| 20:43.35 | wodim | ahm |
| 20:43.36 | wodim | kk |
| 20:43.41 | wodim | I'm still using emblems of frost here |
| 20:43.42 | wodim | :) |
| 20:43.58 | Amarande | Nono, Ahm is used to earn Honesty points. :) |
| 20:44.07 | Amarande | Which you'll earn if you come clean now and admit you're playing on one of "those" servers |
| 20:44.18 | wodim | of course I am. |
| 20:44.31 | wodim | the SS i posted clearly shows I play a level 80 character |
| 20:44.33 | wodim | but that's not the point of my question |
| 20:44.36 | Amarande | yeah, you see, we only help people out with the official servers here |
| 20:44.48 | Amarande | sorry dude :) |
| 20:45.04 | wodim | does it bother you somehow that I don't play in an official server or...? |
| 20:45.10 | wodim | I just needed some help with graphical glitches, geez |
| 20:45.27 | Mr_Rabies | there's a good chance whatever version of wow you're playing is broken in various ways, no real way to help troubleshoot something that's not supported anymore |
| 20:45.33 | kd3 | this channel is affiliated with serveral officially-recognized fansites |
| 20:45.35 | Amarande | wodim: also blizzard has a blood hatred of private servers, and officially sanctioned fan communities basically avoid them like plague |
| 20:45.42 | wodim | ya Mr_Rabies ik |
| 20:45.48 | kd3 | we don't support pservers on those fansites, so we don't support them here either |
| 20:45.51 | wodim | I'm still daydreaming of a source code leak for the client or something lol |
| 20:45.58 | Amarande | although I do have some sympathy for the folks who play private servers because of Lich King nostalgia |
| 20:46.12 | Amarande | the game has yet to really recapture the greatness that was that point in time :( |
| 20:46.43 | Amarande | wodim: there's at least one or two open source mmo engines out there, if you want to work on a private mmo |
| 20:46.50 | Amarande | blizzard does not appreciate wow's being used for such :) |
| 20:47.23 | Amarande | hm, what's the one I remember offhand the most ... http://arianne.sourceforge.net/ |
| 20:47.25 | wodim | I don't really care about what Blizzard has to say about what I do. |
| 20:47.44 | kd3 | great, but we can't support you in here |
| 20:47.44 | wodim | thank you anyway for your hints, those who tried to help me. |
| 20:48.19 | wodim | I'll just resort to OpenGL. |
| 20:50.22 | Simca | cancelled a cinematic, got ported back to my garrison, fell through the world, disconnected, and logged back in at a graveyard |
| 20:50.23 | Simca | fun |
| 20:50.45 | nevcairiel | luckily the graveyard is in your garrison |
| 20:51.00 | Simca | it didn't send me to that one, sent me to the one outside |
| 20:51.39 | Mr_Rabies | basically you got the "garrison is broke" fallback |
| 21:01.44 | karl_w_w | http://imgur.com/a/8mg4e |
| 21:01.55 | karl_w_w | straya |
| 21:02.37 | kd3 | haha |
| 21:38.30 | pompy | http://www.wowhead.com/mission=633/ did this mission of the 'legendary ships' .. it was a 91% chance.... it ended today and fucking failed!1! ! >< |
| 21:38.46 | pompy | and yet the uncommon ship on that quest that missed, survived somehow |
| 21:39.24 | Semlar | don't get too attached to your boats |
| 21:39.55 | pompy | nope, i noticed that. |
| 21:40.04 | pompy | wtb moar than 8 or 10 ships cap |
| 21:43.57 | Amarande | Time to create the guild <White Star Line> before continuing ship missions? :) |
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