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| 01:32.49 | foxlit | sigh, it kills the sense of player agency to be walking into such a well-telegraphed trap. |
| 01:44.45 | Amarande | foxlit: heh, maybe us grognards are too jaded and familiar with trap techniques, so we see things coming from miles away |
| 01:45.02 | Amarande | it's like some of the traps that are attempted in Doom |
| 01:45.22 | Amarande | "hey, there's this pillar with an item on top of it, and I don't hear the 'oof' sound when I press on it ... yeah." LOL |
| 01:46.29 | pompy | zenzelezz: 6 minutes |
| 01:48.28 | Amarande | or the ominous ring of land in RPGs |
| 01:48.58 | Amarande | (I wonder how many new WoW players get a little creeped out in Duskwood when they look at the map pattern, even though there isn't a dragon in the Twilight Grove anymore ...) |
| 01:51.28 | Mr_Rabies | think of it this way foxlit |
| 01:51.46 | Mr_Rabies | you character is so experienced that they know it's a trap and they don't care, they know they can handle it |
| 01:52.50 | foxlit | ends up being framed for regicide and fleeing the country |
| 01:59.09 | Semlar | "framed" |
| 02:00.51 | Dagmar | Experience of players doesn't work _that_ well |
| 02:01.46 | Dagmar | I would like to remind you of the very obvious "giant monster of doom" featured at the start of the previous expansion, with an NPC yelling out what people should do... which was *still* surrounded by a pile of bones so large I was shocked later to find that they werne't built into the landscape. |
| 02:02.54 | kullervo | the Uldum starter quest was the worst |
| 02:04.08 | kullervo | "we have about... 20 weak natives? I just got done face checking the Lich King's most powerful minions, they couldn't even scratch my armor. Bring it!" |
| 02:05.15 | kullervo | why'd the team even hire a bodyguard, especially one of the most powerful heroes of the time, if not to destroy such bandits |
| 02:06.22 | foxlit | uldum is just one giant excuse to overuse cinematic effects. |
| 02:18.05 | Amarande | yeah, I've done Uldum one time too many I think |
| 02:18.25 | Amarande | hence why I had my pally go to Deepholm instead, even though after Hyjal Uldum was probably strictly better by-the-rewards |
| 02:18.52 | Amarande | with the stat squish leveling quest rewards are a mess anyway |
| 02:19.29 | Amarande | like in outland stats/hp were bouncing back and forth like ping pong balls because of the limited stat budgets post-squish |
| 02:20.00 | Amarande | (yes, "quest rewards". I don't have any plate heirlooms, so the only loom Niamhsolais was using was a weapon) |
| 02:35.37 | foxlit | and with those 90 minutes of cutscenes out of the way, Heavensward. |
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| 05:48.55 | Trela | Is doing a bunch driver wiping/cleaning/refreshing when upgrading a video still necessary in newer versions of Windows(7/8) or is that just old XP/Vista stuff these days? |
| 05:49.10 | Trela | Obvious uninstall if I was switching brands. |
| 05:54.09 | Trela | *Obviously |
| 05:58.31 | Mr_Rabies | nvidia or AMD? |
| 05:58.59 | Mr_Rabies | eh, i'd fully uninstall with either if i was changing video cards |
| 05:59.44 | Seerah | the amd drivers support a bunch of their cards at once |
| 06:00.27 | Trela | nVidia 770 to 980 |
| 06:09.23 | Mr_Rabies | probably worth it, your nvidia optimized setting things will change anyway |
| 06:09.51 | Mr_Rabies | unless you did a lot of tweaking, it can't really hurt to go ahead and uninstall/reinstall the drivers |
| 06:12.32 | Trela | Mmm. *Nods* Probably worth it get rid some of the nVidia experience crud. |
| 06:14.50 | Mr_Rabies | then do the "custom install" then "clean install" option when reinstalling |
| 06:15.06 | Mr_Rabies | while it's probably about 90% likely to work fine, it's such a quick process |
| 06:17.00 | Trela | Sounds good. Thanks. :D |
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| 07:16.33 | plaw | that's no moon.... https://twitter.com/NASANewHorizons/status/613115848924925952 |
| 07:27.50 | Semlar | is it a death star |
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| 08:29.24 | VIad | it is a dead star since it was never a star to begin with |
| 08:32.27 | nevcairiel | to be a dead something, you would assume it was an alive something before |
| 08:33.31 | Maldivia | so D-Listed |
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| 09:22.58 | nevcairiel | foxlit: i broke globe, it doesnt color global access according to their source anymore :( https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/#h:41958365c95cf39d018062ef743ac224 |
| 09:23.37 | nevcairiel | hm apparently you didnt add 6.2 yet |
| 10:33.54 | nebula169 | he linked a thing earlier showing 6.2 support |
| 10:34.41 | nebula169 | <foxlit> https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/#h:75f297dcd001f1a546df3c0bb9c6c760-reads << so globe now knows about 6.2 |
| 10:38.37 | nebula169 | ah, assume Missing model for 60200 FrameXML. is the issue |
| 10:41.30 | nevcairiel | maybe he lied! |
| 10:41.30 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 11:41.10 | Simca | >winning a game of hearthstone in arena |
| 11:41.17 | Simca | >suddenly, not one |
| 11:41.19 | Simca | >but two |
| 11:41.20 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/e0V5vkh.jpg |
| 11:41.45 | Simca | two of the same legendary in a draft, drawn back to back |
| 11:43.43 | Simca | good times were not had by all simcas |
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| 12:39.26 | VIad | nice 4:3 aspect ratio |
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| 13:42.03 | Fisker | Hey alestane |
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| 15:06.06 | foxlit | nevcairiel: foxlit: i broke globe, it doesnt color global access according to their source anymore :( https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/#h:41958365c95cf39d018062ef743ac224 |
| 15:06.22 | foxlit | hm, I was reasonably sure I fixed that, but it's not even reflected locally. In any case, works now. |
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| 15:16.57 | Guillotine | Happy Patch Day! |
| 15:17.49 | Ressy | booooo |
| 15:21.35 | Amarande | You mean Grumpy Patch Day, Guillotine :) |
| 15:22.44 | Amarande | I mean, it's ... patch day. Big download, have to work kinks out of your UI, usually can't raid very well because of unpatched raid mates/server bandwidth overloads ... |
| 15:23.37 | Amarande | on the other hand, there's flying :) |
| 15:23.50 | Guillotine | And shipyards! |
| 15:23.53 | Guillotine | And method= in XML! |
| 15:24.36 | Torhal | Guillotine: :O |
| 15:24.49 | Guillotine | Oh wait, think it's just mixin= |
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| 15:25.03 | Guillotine | Yeah, 6.2 is just mixin= |
| 15:25.14 | Amarande | on the other hand, I expect there will be a lot of hue and cry about flying again, go figure LOL |
| 15:25.19 | Amarande | especially from people who went on hiatus and come back |
| 15:28.18 | Amarande | (I'm not talking about the treasures or the rep grinds, I'm mostly looking at the Apexis Dailies requirement and noting that they're the %#$&*@#&*@# random spawn kind ...) |
| 15:30.25 | Amarande | also the rep grind makes me glad I never really got far on pvp realms, because apparently there's a fair chance for flying to be a "first come, only served" clusterfuck on many a realm :( |
| 15:31.18 | Amarande | probably after a while people will be forced to level a 100 on a pve realm even if they otherwise only play on pvp, I'm guessing there is a decent chance of |
| 15:31.36 | Amarande | (or use the pve-server-friend trick) |
| 15:34.36 | Amarande | I guess it just goes to show that you really *can't* balance an MMO in a way that keeps everyone happy all of the time :S |
| 15:37.41 | Torhal | Amarande, Lord of Supposition Exposition |
| 15:37.45 | Torhal | >.> |
| 15:38.14 | Amarande | Torhal: the big issue is that once enough people get flying on a pvp realm, everyone still stuck on the ground will be such easy pickins as to make the rep grind increasingly exasperating to the point of complete no-fun |
| 15:38.45 | Amarande | so they will either have to earn it on another realm or group with a friend to temporarily hop to a pve realm |
| 15:38.53 | Amarande | at least it's account wide :) |
| 15:39.45 | Amarande | at least the last time we were in Draenor, rep grinds were primarily done in the relative safety of an instance environment :) |
| 15:40.32 | Amarande | (Relative, mind you, because level 70 dungeons were pretty brutal, and A'dal help you if you needed Thrallmar rep in particular. :D) |
| 15:40.44 | Torhal | My point was that you make suppositions and write paragraphs about them in the channel, which is why half the channel has you on ignore. Textual diarrhea. |
| 15:41.55 | Amarande | Torhal: so we're supposed to give suppositions *without* supporting them, so that they fit in single tweet-sized lines? that can't be better (I can't even imagine trying to carry on a serious conversation/debate on Twitter, heh) |
| 15:42.32 | Amarande | I don't know about others, but when I was a lad in school, they always taught us that you were supposed to back up your argument, not just put a single sentence saying "I think this" :D |
| 15:42.52 | Torhal | Most of the time, though, there is no conversation. It's a huge monologue in stream of consciousness style. It's like you're using the channel as a personal blog. |
| 15:43.21 | Torhal | I see activity here, switch over, and see you talking to yourself again. Irritating. |
| 15:48.31 | Amarande | heh, mind you, I don't know how people stand using ignore either ... except when I'm dealing with specific things such as advertisements and clonebot attacks, perhaps. if I try to put an actual person on ignore, before long I start going bananas because it just looks too odd to see conversations that are obviously missing pieces :) |
| 16:01.57 | VIad | joined AV, broken like hell. 20 russians corpse camping and pvping not doing objkectives |
| 16:02.15 | VIad | alliance spread across two gys, both camped by many horde and a giant kill wave when needed to defend the two towers at base |
| 16:02.30 | VIad | litterally 60 minutes waiting for alliance counter to reach 0 |
| 16:02.43 | VIad | vanilla had stuff you could do to spawn elites and bosses to push |
| 16:02.50 | VIad | nothing like that now so no way to turn the tide |
| 16:03.06 | VIad | worth mentioning horde seem to have queued as a raid group :P |
| 16:03.26 | Stanzilla | is this a monolog competition now |
| 16:03.30 | Amarande | VIad: AV has always been a pain, heh |
| 16:03.44 | VIad | I just dont get why blizz cant balance this |
| 16:03.47 | VIad | at least make it end quicker |
| 16:04.19 | VIad | also not to mention that any clash involving 40 people in an area |
| 16:04.24 | Amarande | VIad: should have been around for 2.3-2.4 where it was pretty much the only way to farm honour in quantity to buy pvp goods with (especially since arena gear went all rating-required), and you still needed BG-specific tokens |
| 16:04.25 | VIad | instant casts take 5 seconds to cast |
| 16:04.40 | VIad | combat is impossible due to server lagging so bad |
| 16:04.47 | VIad | flashback to AQ gate opening atm |
| 16:04.48 | Amarande | Horde are getting their revenge, I'd say, because back then Horde got screwed over :| |
| 16:04.57 | Amarande | VIad: you're also trying to play on patch day |
| 16:05.07 | VIad | its not patch until tomorrow |
| 16:05.47 | Amarande | VIad: you're playing on pre-patch "quick finish all those ahead of the curve cheeves while you still can" day |
| 16:05.49 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1435075542.png |
| 16:05.57 | VIad | best healer eu |
| 16:06.02 | VIad | (me) |
| 16:06.14 | Amarande | probably every guild with a chance who hasn't already is going for their last big attempt today |
| 16:07.53 | VIad | you can't queue group for pvp |
| 16:07.58 | VIad | why could they? :p |
| 16:08.00 | VIad | or just russian thing |
| 16:08.07 | VIad | like all russians only do this to win |
| 16:08.10 | VIad | make games long as hell |
| 16:09.09 | VIad | I just found the AV quests to kill drekthar and wanted to do it |
| 16:09.11 | VIad | 30 min queue |
| 16:09.17 | VIad | 60 min "afk" waiting to loose AV |
| 16:09.20 | VIad | really shitty |
| 16:09.36 | Amarande | wait, they removed the ability to queue premade? |
| 16:09.45 | Amarande | I thought that was a standard thing for many PvP folks to do |
| 16:09.46 | VIad | can't queue casual premade |
| 16:09.53 | Amarande | oh, they made it rated only, then |
| 16:09.55 | VIad | yes |
| 16:10.01 | Amarande | it's been a long time since I've done BGs |
| 16:10.08 | VIad | imo |
| 16:10.14 | VIad | make it so if you dont go for any towers in AV |
| 16:10.20 | VIad | faction gets -% debuff |
| 16:10.22 | VIad | stacking |
| 16:10.37 | VIad | that should reduce amount of grinding in the middle and actually make people go for objectives |
| 16:11.07 | VIad | there is a reason there is no pure clash like the hillsbrad event bg |
| 16:11.17 | VIad | because there are no objectives and only pvp in focus |
| 16:11.21 | VIad | blizz said they dont want that |
| 16:11.24 | VIad | but that is what AV is atm |
| 16:11.30 | VIad | at least for me |
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| 16:21.18 | Amarande | VIad: they've tried several times to balance AV, it hasn't really worked out well |
| 16:21.34 | Amarande | part of the problem is the vast difference in players across battlegroups (if they even still use those anymore?) |
| 16:21.57 | VIad | why not try the -% debuff like flag carriers get? |
| 16:22.09 | VIad | some timer and with intervals debuff the entire faction that dont do anything |
| 16:22.23 | VIad | each 2 min -% debuff stacks on the faction that has not done any objectives |
| 16:22.31 | Amarande | like in 2.3, in about 7 of the 9 US battlegroups, Alliance was doing even or better ... then you had two BGs where Horde just kicked Alliance around left and right like ragdolls |
| 16:22.33 | VIad | it would make it harder to corpsecamp |
| 16:22.56 | Amarande | corpsecamp? usually people loot the corpse and send the victim back to the GY |
| 16:23.02 | Amarande | at least that's how it was last time I was in BGs |
| 16:23.04 | VIad | GY camp |
| 16:23.18 | VIad | horde just camped their base and the GY outside it |
| 16:23.24 | VIad | moved to take towers if ally tried to cap |
| 16:23.32 | VIad | repeat 45 min until alliance had no respawns left |
| 16:23.35 | VIad | most boring game ever |
| 16:23.44 | Amarande | also if you have a contentious fight you're eventually going to get everyone debuffed back to a Hogger raid |
| 16:24.01 | Amarande | because people will be stuck fighting at the middle and if neither side gains ground fast enough ... |
| 16:24.15 | VIad | my AV was "middle" fight |
| 16:24.21 | VIad | only it was them camping GY where ally spawned |
| 16:24.29 | VIad | only strat they used is to cap back the 2 towers in base |
| 16:24.33 | Amarande | and then no one will be strong enough to beat the NPC bosses once they do get past the opponents LOL |
| 16:24.34 | VIad | they also had like 10 healers |
| 16:24.46 | VIad | was no plan to kill any bosses |
| 16:24.48 | VIad | it was a GY camp |
| 16:24.56 | VIad | they won by just killing ally that spawned on the GY |
| 16:24.59 | Amarande | ah |
| 16:25.07 | VIad | we couldnt just do their boss |
| 16:25.10 | VIad | theyd come and kill us |
| 16:25.11 | Amarande | yeah I'm not sure how much people cared about the intermediate objectives when I used to do BGs |
| 16:25.13 | VIad | and back to GY |
| 16:25.24 | Amarande | usually it seemed folks went straight for the bosses, mostly just stopping to take out player opposition in the way |
| 16:25.30 | VIad | alliance was too scattered to make any comback |
| 16:26.13 | Amarande | but yeah, alliance got too many bones thrown to them back in the day so I'm not sure how much sympathy I ought to have :) |
| 16:26.36 | Amarande | because of the two lopsided Horde favouring battlegroups, where Alliance was actively boycotting AV so Horde got 3+ hour queue times for one fight |
| 16:26.49 | Amarande | in 2.4 Blizzard decided to rebalance AV to actively favour Alliance further |
| 16:27.10 | Amarande | which basically evened things out some for Stormstrike and the one other Horde-imbalanced BG and left Horde on the other seven going "gee thanks blizz" |
| 16:27.28 | Amarande | alliance more or less walked all over horde on most battlegroups after that :P so it's time for horde to get a little justice :) |
| 16:30.53 | VIad | avoiding objectives to have a big clash isnt what blizzard, says, they want of a bg |
| 16:30.59 | VIad | but this is what happens with the russians I meet :p |
| 16:31.52 | Amarande | well, there's not really much you can do about it unless you put content on rails and take out all the judgment, strategy, and, well, fun |
| 16:32.15 | VIad | ehm |
| 16:32.21 | Amarande | it's why you get the clashes between people going on about entitledness when people complain a lot about something |
| 16:32.42 | Amarande | reality is, if you want to be successful as a business, typically you have to give the customer what they want, if you try to *tell* them what they want you lose customers :S |
| 16:32.44 | VIad | servers cant handle clashes |
| 16:32.47 | VIad | the game lags |
| 16:32.49 | VIad | net lag |
| 16:32.53 | VIad | 5 sec for instant casts |
| 16:32.58 | VIad | people teleporting around in the area, e.g. |
| 16:33.16 | Amarande | well, that's just poor server architecture |
| 16:33.18 | VIad | why AV usually makes smaller objectives so people split out |
| 16:33.27 | Amarande | it makes me understand why FFXIV does some things the way it does |
| 16:33.27 | VIad | its like wintergrasp |
| 16:33.43 | Amarande | like the heartbeat-based dot system (which yes, the most hardcore of folks will strategise their rotations around) |
| 16:34.19 | Amarande | or the generally much longer GCD and lack of useful spell haste |
| 16:34.39 | Amarande | it slows the game pace down to help the servers handle the load (and also drives caster DPS to fury :P) |
| 16:43.21 | Guillotine | Servers are live! Go go go! |
| 16:44.28 | nevcairiel | that was quick |
| 16:47.39 | Amarande | yeah, usually patch day involves it being almost dinner time and still annoyedly sitting there looking at the blizzard twitter saying "maintenance has been extended ..." |
| 16:47.51 | Amarande | in that no-fun corporate drone like the pixies from that Fairly Oddparents episode :P |
| 16:50.35 | Simca | everyone who logs in in my guild is getting the Gate of the Setting Sun and Siege of Niuzao Temple achievements, lel |
| 16:50.57 | nevcairiel | i had those already :( |
| 16:51.09 | Simca | so did I |
| 16:51.12 | Simca | and so did they |
| 16:51.14 | Amarande | huh, what's special about those? |
| 16:51.23 | Amarande | they removing pandarian stuff in 6.2? |
| 16:51.29 | Simca | idk |
| 16:51.31 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/z1ui4cI.jpg |
| 16:51.41 | Simca | Master Treasure Hunter is the new 100 treasures thing |
| 16:51.47 | Simca | so that makes sense. the others don't |
| 16:52.04 | Amarande | total time played: 439 days, 2 hours, 52 minutes, 48 seconds |
| 16:52.14 | Amarande | man, it doesn't feel like that much time when we're spending it, does it? :) |
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| 17:07.42 | Unkle | station |
| 17:08.32 | Fisker | TÃ¥rn |
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| 17:10.40 | Jamash | 6.2 HYPE |
| 17:11.36 | Jamash | update your .toc files, yo |
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| 17:13.40 | foxlit | Jamash: it still doesn't work :( |
| 17:15.36 | Jamash | foxlit: What doesn't? |
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| 17:16.30 | bluipodcow | Flying cat! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J_8mdH20qTQ&feature=youtu.be |
| 17:16.53 | bluipodcow | How's da master plan update coming fox lit ? |
| 17:21.17 | Simca | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/3asepy/kargath_killing_spree_chains_bug/ roflmao |
| 17:22.51 | Ressy | sighs |
| 17:22.57 | Ressy | masterplan's not loading. |
| 17:24.48 | bluipodcow | With load of date addons on ? |
| 17:24.50 | Ressy | ya |
| 17:24.52 | Jamash | ...did void lords always have a cool shimmering lightning effect? |
| 17:25.05 | Ressy | says load on demand, but opening up the table doesn't have it load. :( |
| 17:25.18 | bluipodcow | They've been taking lessons from Liberance jam ash |
| 17:25.24 | bluipodcow | Soz |
| 17:25.28 | bluipodcow | jamash |
| 17:26.06 | bluipodcow | @ressy go to gherkin mission table when you right click it ? |
| 17:26.10 | bluipodcow | Erm |
| 17:26.16 | bluipodcow | Garrison not gherkin |
| 17:26.22 | Ressy | I'm clicking it. |
| 17:26.23 | Ressy | nada |
| 17:26.49 | MysticalOS | foxlit, these garrison missions, my eyes are crit by horrible base UI |
| 17:27.05 | bluipodcow | Try right clicking the dude that sells follower contracts to the right of the table then table |
| 17:27.22 | bluipodcow | Also hence forth I am calling my garrison my gherkin |
| 17:27.42 | Jamash | bluipodcow: do you mean Liberace? |
| 17:27.51 | bluipodcow | Liberance |
| 17:27.55 | Ressy | shouldn't need to click on him |
| 17:28.03 | bluipodcow | Flashy opera singer |
| 17:28.27 | bluipodcow | Oh yeah Soz my spelling r bad |
| 17:29.55 | Ressy | especially since I'm remoted into my computer on my phone and its a pain to do that. |
| 17:30.14 | Jamash | oh, there was a general demon model update, awesome |
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| 17:31.33 | bluipodcow | Heh |
| 17:32.05 | bluipodcow | Was only a suggestion :) I'm at work so can't check for workarounds myself |
| 17:34.36 | Amarande | Jamash: yeah Blizzard is a sadistic bastard like that :) |
| 17:34.48 | Amarande | "oh hey, we'll give you awesome new demon model updates for your warlock. we're also nerfing Demo into the ground." :D |
| 17:35.19 | Amarande | you know, why is it always warlocks, anyway? you don't see them doing the same to hunters, despite them being far more OP than warlocks ever were :| |
| 17:35.34 | Amarande | hunters get nice new pet models every xpac *and* they get to stay at or near the top of the heap |
| 17:39.18 | bluipodcow | :( |
| 17:39.34 | bluipodcow | I can't open wow on an iPad can I ? |
| 17:39.34 | Unkle | Hey, look over there Amarande. The grass over there is *greener.* |
| 17:40.35 | Amarande | Unkle: given how consistently good hunters have been, that's usually right in a literal sense in WoW :) |
| 17:40.38 | Maldivia | this is going to be soo good -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6tyKjNsyns :D |
| 17:41.11 | Unkle | Sarcasm is wasted on the young. |
| 17:42.10 | Fisker | The new hero in hearthstone definitely has greener grass Unkle |
| 17:42.40 | Unkle | I should reinstall it on my iPad. |
| 17:43.23 | bluipodcow | New hero ? Aro? |
| 17:43.32 | bluipodcow | #slowpoke |
| 17:43.45 | Fisker | You should install it on your new android tablet Unkle |
| 17:43.51 | Fisker | It's a skin bluipodcow |
| 17:44.01 | Fisker | So no actual new gameplay |
| 17:44.15 | bluipodcow | Whats the hero name? |
| 17:44.22 | Unkle | Fisker: Fuck Android. Google knows too much about me already,. |
| 17:44.30 | Fisker | Alleria Windrunner |
| 17:45.21 | Fisker | With apple it's only them and the rest of the world |
| 17:45.34 | Fisker | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 17:46.05 | Unkle | Fisker: Pretty much everyone knows too much about me. Now I'm just trying to make them work a bit harder for it. |
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| 18:10.27 | bluipodcow | ~lastseen my brain |
| 18:10.41 | bluipodcow | ~seen the bean |
| 18:10.46 | purl | i haven't seen 'the bean', bluipodcow |
| 18:10.58 | bluipodcow | ~seen foxlit |
| 18:10.59 | purl | foxlit is currently on #wowuidev (20h 15m 44s). Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 57m 19s, last said: 'Jamash: it still doesn't work :('. |
| 18:11.12 | Outrider | best last said ever |
| 18:14.24 | karl_w_w | ori and the blind forest is amazingly good |
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| 18:25.12 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHAr3n53-U8 this is amazingly bad |
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| 18:40.20 | PsyTech | I feel bad for foxlit right now. |
| 18:41.17 | Ressy | becuase MasterPlan doesn't work and people are probably going insane? |
| 18:41.28 | bluipodcow | Meh |
| 18:41.39 | bluipodcow | We're here to help him with it |
| 18:41.40 | PsyTech | Lol yeah. |
| 18:41.55 | Cairenn | :) |
| 18:41.55 | PsyTech | He definitely gets "Addon of the Expansion" award. |
| 18:42.37 | bluipodcow | All he needs do is ask :) |
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| 19:05.44 | fewyn | the feels like temp here is 104 F :( |
| 19:10.00 | pompy | ugh, comcast internet has been out since 920am till now ... they say a "software issue" and i heard someone dug through a wire on the parkway |
| 19:11.01 | Fisker | Well the software can't give you internet if the wire was cut now can it? |
| 19:11.23 | karl_w_w | the issue is the software says you can't connect |
| 19:11.33 | fewyn | software issue is a code word for we don't fucking know |
| 19:13.55 | Fisker | Everything you see is Linux pompy |
| 19:14.05 | Fisker | Your router, Linux |
| 19:14.14 | Simca | Your mother, Linux |
| 19:14.15 | Fisker | Your wiring, Linux |
| 19:14.28 | Fisker | Comcast, Linux |
| 19:14.48 | Fisker | That shovel used to dig over the wire? |
| 19:14.53 | Fisker | L I N U X |
| 19:19.26 | bluipodcow | Fisker, Lonix |
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| 19:20.29 | Fisker | Yeah my digestive system is spewing out a lot of garbage to stdout |
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| 19:31.35 | foxlit | coincidentally, Brill (PTR) is down. |
| 19:32.04 | Ressy | booo |
| 19:32.19 | Amarande | pompy: charter was out last night |
| 19:33.03 | foxlit | np, more Heavensward for me. |
| 19:33.46 | Fisker | wow |
| 19:35.34 | Jamash | no, ff14 |
| 19:36.27 | Jamash | foxlit: Why do you need the PTR? |
| 19:37.06 | foxlit | wow's staggered release schedule means 6.2 is simultaniously live and not live. |
| 19:37.09 | Jamash | oy |
| 19:37.52 | Jamash | Schrödinger's content patch. |
| 19:38.19 | Simca | Jamash: EU vs US |
| 19:38.44 | Jamash | Simca: Yeah, I get it. |
| 19:39.40 | Jamash | My development strategy is to pretend other regions don't exist except when someone sends me a translation table |
| 19:40.16 | Jamash | That reminds me, I'm supposed to be fixing my addon |
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| 20:04.53 | VIad | imo it's better when on US so your patches come a day earlier to the rest :) |
| 20:05.01 | VIad | I am at fault here usually releasing updates later :( |
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| 20:11.19 | Semlar | puts foxlit in a box |
| 20:13.56 | Outrider | wonders why |
| 20:19.50 | Semlar | does anyone know if/where the season 1 conquest pvp gear got moved to |
| 20:20.07 | Semlar | i don't know if they made it purchasable for honor or removed it |
| 20:25.37 | Semlar | nevermind |
| 20:25.38 | Amarande | Semlar, do you remember the name of any of the items? |
| 20:25.44 | Amarande | wowhead is your friend :) |
| 20:34.57 | Stanzilla | foxlit: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/378026-master-plan/ |
| 20:34.58 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 20:35.42 | foxlit | I wish we had some more version-flagging options, Guillotine. |
| 20:36.20 | foxlit | It would be nice to be able to declare "this addon will work with patch x.y and x.(y+1)" or "this addon will definitely not work with patch x.y" |
| 20:37.50 | Semlar | foxlit master plan doesn't work what do |
| 20:38.08 | Torhal | unplugs Semlar and plugs him in again. |
| 20:38.11 | foxlit | The former is kind of what the "load out of date addons" checkbox does, and I currently do the latter by version checking and chat output, but some people have error message blindness. |
| 20:40.51 | Semlar | how am i supposed to use the garrison like this |
| 20:43.14 | foxlit | dunno, Semlar, dunno. |
| 20:43.41 | foxlit | have you tried turning it off and on again? |
| 20:43.51 | Semlar | yes |
| 20:44.02 | Semlar | i even tried commenting out the error message and it turns out that doesn't get rid of the error |
| 20:44.49 | foxlit | hah, I wonder what you commented out |
| 20:45.20 | Semlar | the part at the top of masterplan.lua that bails out if it's incompatible |
| 20:45.28 | Semlar | i wanted to see what the error was |
| 20:45.41 | Semlar | which is attempt to call field '_SetMissionSeenTable' (a nil value) |
| 20:47.47 | foxlit | yeah, okay, you did that to yourself by commenting out the wrong thing. |
| 20:47.54 | Semlar | how dare you |
| 20:48.13 | Torhal | doesn't comment. |
| 20:48.39 | Torhal | uncomments Semlar's cerebral cortex. |
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| 20:49.02 | Outrider | refactors Semlar 's cerebral cortex to start working with Javascript |
| 20:54.11 | Mr_Rabies | anymore toys that previously weren't toys added to the toys menu? |
| 20:54.18 | Mr_Rabies | like, for example, the safari hat |
| 21:08.57 | Stanzilla | oh god |
| 21:08.59 | Stanzilla | "Nah, nothing like that. I haven't seen any recent updates or Curse Forge ticket replies from Foxlit lately, so I can't say what the status is for him updating the addon to work with 6.2." |
| 21:09.02 | Stanzilla | they think you are dead |
| 21:09.18 | Semlar | they made so many changes to the garrison ui |
| 21:10.29 | Torhal | Stanzilla: It's been more than two hours without a response, so the fucking sky is falling. You weren't aware that's how things work? :D |
| 21:10.55 | Stanzilla | yes yes |
| 21:11.02 | Stanzilla | already called Stargate SG1 |
| 21:11.06 | Stanzilla | they are investigating |
| 21:11.09 | Stanzilla | see what I did there? |
| 21:11.09 | Torhal | :O |
| 21:11.12 | Stanzilla | g a t i n g? |
| 21:15.50 | Semlar | local mainFrame = self:GetParent():GetParent():GetParent() lolol |
| 21:17.52 | Torhal | Ooooh. |
| 21:17.54 | Torhal | Shiny. |
| 21:20.24 | Stanzilla | don't get it :( |
| 21:21.41 | Semlar | local frame = self:GetParent():GetParent():GetParent():GetParent():GetParent() |
| 21:21.50 | Semlar | i don't think i like some of these changes |
| 21:22.25 | Amarande | heh, people are far too used to immediate responses these days, aren't they |
| 21:23.12 | Amarande | any kind of wait, and ... well, I guess we can blame entities like the megacorps who insist that your call is important to them when they'd really rather you go away and just wait for them to fix the problem on their own time, because, well, they're the cable company and where are you gonna go :) LOL |
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| 21:30.56 | Semlar | if i go into my garrison, click on the command table and reload my ui i can no longer use my mounts |
| 21:31.12 | Semlar | o.o |
| 21:31.18 | nevcairiel | riding is for the week |
| 21:31.28 | nevcairiel | also, weak |
| 21:31.32 | Semlar | like they're all redded out in the mount journal |
| 21:31.47 | Torhal | Who put Reddit in the Mount Journal? |
| 21:32.49 | foxlit | you're, um, indoors, Semlar. |
| 21:32.57 | Semlar | outside, obviously |
| 21:33.09 | Semlar | and it's not an addon because i just disabled them all and can reproduce it |
| 21:33.31 | foxlit | okay, so the easiest model here is that it flags you as busy and doesn't unflag due to reload. |
| 21:34.00 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.42 | Semlar | doesn't fix it |
| 21:38.03 | Cairenn | bug it and I'll forward it along |
| 21:38.52 | jaxdahl | did it not work on the PTR either? |
| 21:39.05 | Semlar | no idea, didn't use the ptr |
| 21:41.18 | Semlar | here https://youtu.be/vhJeQdolN2c |
| 21:44.00 | Semlar | curiously it doesn't affect some of the mounts on my bars which have a different action type |
| 21:44.25 | Semlar | i think it's just the mount journal |
| 21:46.19 | Semlar | and i can still /use headless horseman's mount |
| 21:47.06 | Mr_Rabies | uhhh |
| 21:47.07 | Mr_Rabies | that was odd |
| 21:47.19 | Mr_Rabies | i just phased and it said that EVERYTHING was added to all my collections |
| 21:47.37 | Mr_Rabies | [05:46][Hellscream's Warbow] has been added to your heirloom collection.[05:46][Hellscream's Pig Sticker] has been added to your heirloom collection.[05:46][Hellscream's Tome of Destruction] has been added to your heirloom collection. |
| 21:47.39 | Cairenn | Semlar: forwarded |
| 21:48.07 | Semlar | ^_^ |
| 21:53.49 | Mr_Rabies | woo |
| 21:54.01 | Mr_Rabies | libperiodictable is pretty much on fire right now |
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| 22:01.59 | Jamash | ...did Blizzard remove the learn/unlearn spam when changing specs...? |
| 22:03.29 | Jamash | Holy crap they did! |
| 22:03.36 | Jamash | I thought my spam filter was broken! |
| 22:04.41 | Jamash | I can finally rip that goddamn thing out! |
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| 22:13.47 | Jamash | foxlit: I tried to send my followers on missions and realized I didn't know how anymore. |
| 22:21.13 | Jamash | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/18194573067?page=1#0 |
| 22:21.14 | Jamash | :P |
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| 22:22.27 | Stanzilla | why did you post the code |
| 22:22.30 | Stanzilla | when it is no longer needed |
| 22:23.46 | Jamash | 'cause I ain't gotta maintain no more |
| 22:23.51 | Jamash | I'M FREE |
| 22:34.39 | Jamash | Stanzilla: There, I commented it out for you |
| 22:34.54 | Stanzilla | :D |
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| 22:48.05 | LexSfX | where can i find the real list of WoW 6.2 API and default UI changes? it broke master plan, yet the changes shown on the wiki wouldn't affect that |
| 22:48.39 | Ressy | The author's working on it |
| 22:50.23 | LexSfX | master plan aside, where can i find the changes? does anyone know? |
| 22:53.06 | Stanzilla | LexSfX: http://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_6.2.0/API_changes |
| 22:53.15 | Stanzilla | not up to date though |
| 22:53.27 | nebula169 | C_Garrison was updated with ship stuff, not much else |
| 22:58.59 | Guillotine | It wasn't the base API changes that did most of the breaking of Master Plan this patch. It was the fact that most of the Mission UI was re-factored and Master Plan heavily touched them. |
| 23:01.00 | Stanzilla | Guillotine: was the bug fixed where the client randomly creates folders called (null) in the wtf dir btw? |
| 23:02.09 | Guillotine | Stanzilla: I don't remember for sure. Maybe? |
| 23:02.19 | Stanzilla | ok :D |
| 23:03.23 | Stanzilla | probably not really a UI dep. bug |
| 23:03.51 | foxlit | the first gear set in Heavensward is a literal clown suit for some classes. Someone has been taking notes. |
| 23:04.31 | Guillotine | So I just got the iLvl 675 engineering gun on my level 91 hunter. It's amazing. |
| 23:04.51 | Guillotine | Doing more damage than everyone else combined in dungeons |
| 23:05.46 | fewyn | fettuccine > spaghetti noodles |
| 23:13.14 | Stanzilla | 01:10 Ravynaeous: Its a 24 hour difference on resets so while us gets it on the front end, EU gets the 24 hours on the back end. |
| 23:13.21 | Stanzilla | finally someone figured out how this works |
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| 23:14.17 | Kesava | US gets the be the guinea pigs |
| 23:14.48 | Kesava | i used to be on the US realms. patch days were always broken. |
| 23:19.28 | Amarande | Guillotine, you're a hunter |
| 23:19.35 | Amarande | there's nothing "amazing" about being OP as a hunter :) |
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| 23:20.23 | Mr_Rabies | armory down |
| 23:20.24 | Mr_Rabies | dangit |
| 23:20.33 | Mr_Rabies | wanted to get my stat priority for pawn :( |
| 23:22.00 | Ressy | lol.. wow.. |
| 23:22.12 | Ressy | So many people are asking you to put up a donate button foxlit. |
| 23:33.21 | Constie | They should donate that money to me instead. I think I helped with something at some point. |
| 23:35.42 | Kesava | or me |
| 23:35.50 | Kesava | i made a suggestion at one point |
| 23:41.25 | MiRai | I'm pretty sure me idling in this channel has proven time and time again to be a motivating factor in developing Master Plan, therefore some of that donatio money should go to me, as well. |
| 23:41.27 | MiRai | >_> |
| 23:49.41 | Outrider | go go patreon |
| 23:56.37 | Semlar | Guillotine: i broke dis https://youtu.be/vhJeQdolN2c |
