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| 00:26.55 | jleclanche | brilliant |
| 00:27.02 | jleclanche | Day9's theory on adventure games |
| 00:27.27 | jleclanche | "Point & Click adventure games didn't disappear, they just morphed into Daft Punk in the late 90s" |
| 00:27.36 | jleclanche | (re: Technologic) |
| 00:32.39 | Amarande | heh |
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| 00:33.03 | Amarande | more realistically, sierra-style adventure games (or am I thinking a different phase of the graphical adventure genre?) were basically text adventures with a limited GUI on top |
| 00:33.29 | Amarande | the amateur creators that have kept text adventures alive decided to focus on the text and puzzle aspect and not really spend time on graphics |
| 00:33.45 | Amarande | just like how .Z6 format is barely ever seen in amateur adventures |
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| 02:05.47 | Iriel | Good evening internet |
| 02:07.54 | Cairenn | waves at uru |
| 02:08.01 | Cairenn | Iriel* |
| 02:08.19 | Cairenn | geez, just washed my hands, now I can't do a damn thing with them! |
| 02:12.27 | Iriel | Youâre supposed to rinse and dry after adding the soap. |
| 02:12.42 | Cairenn | Ah, that must have been the problem. |
| 02:13.00 | Torhal | To be clear: You don't wash with the towel and dry with the soap; other way around. |
| 02:13.01 | Cairenn | (either that or I'm still trying to adjust to this keyboard) |
| 02:13.24 | Iriel | In frozen canada, Keyboard adjusts you? |
| 02:13.28 | Cairenn | lol |
| 02:13.44 | Cairenn | Well, it -is- a Canadian made keyboard. :) |
| 02:14.07 | Iriel | Interesting, I didnât know that was something canadia was famous for |
| 02:14.17 | Torhal | So it apologizes when you make a typo? |
| 02:14.25 | Cairenn | Lol |
| 02:14.27 | Cairenn | https://www.trulyergonomic.com/store/index.php |
| 02:14.48 | Cairenn | Most of the time I'm fine with it now, but every now and then my fingers are just on all the wrong keys. |
| 02:14.51 | Iriel | That canât be canadian, thereâs no âEhâ button |
| 02:14.59 | Cairenn | giggle |
| 02:15.05 | Seerah | hehe |
| 02:15.09 | Torhal | !!! |
| 02:15.25 | Iriel | Or is it just built into the ? |
| 02:15.37 | Cairenn | lol |
| 02:15.54 | Torhal | Kaelten actually has one that's split into two halves. He has them about a foot or so apart. No damn clue how he manages to type. |
| 02:16.19 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 02:17.02 | Cairenn | I spent a lot of time trying to figure out which one would be best for me, and decided to give this one a shot. Most of the time I really do like it, and it is helping. But some days ... |
| 02:17.14 | Seerah | I can't type on ergonomic keyboards. totally messes me up. Hubby's got this one: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/natural-ergonomic-keyboard-4000 |
| 02:17.40 | Iriel | I dont like them either |
| 02:17.51 | Cairenn | (I was having a lot of problems with my right shoulder, so was trying to come up with a way to get the mouse closer to center) |
| 02:18.10 | Iriel | I used to have to flip between mouse and track ball every year or so |
| 02:18.26 | Cairenn | And I love my ergo keyboards. The straight ones just always feel so cramped now |
| 02:18.42 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 02:19.32 | Cairenn | Seerah: that's the model I replaced with this one |
| 02:20.18 | Cairenn | And they've got a great image to show just how much less space this one takes up vs that one: https://www.trulyergonomic.com/store/100-keys-in-60-space--truly-ergonomic-mechanical-keyboard--microsoft-natural-4000--comparison-difference |
| 02:20.19 | Iriel | Anyone in the bay area, there may not be any tickets left, but Eddie Izzardâs current show is funny (as expected, though heâs a bit more randomly rambly than the last 2 times we saw him), and tomorrowâs the last night. |
| 02:21.05 | kd3 | hm |
| 02:21.18 | Iriel | I spend a significant amount of my computer time NOT mousing, which probably helps me substantially |
| 02:21.24 | Amarande | I find if I were to use a Microsoft keyboard or mouse these days it would just look extremely odd |
| 02:21.33 | Amarande | especially since I do not run Windows on any of my PCs anymore |
| 02:21.47 | Iriel | MS used to make awesome mice |
| 02:21.54 | Iriel | I used them for years, they had a great replacement policy too |
| 02:22.00 | kd3 | eh, when I started my new job I made them buy me a MS ergo keyboard |
| 02:22.01 | Iriel | (On all of my linux desktops) |
| 02:22.03 | Cairenn | Whereas I spend as much or more time mousing than I do typing |
| 02:22.08 | foxlit | that's some very loose interpretation of "100% of the keys" |
| 02:22.27 | Amarande | naamah is running Debian 8 and so will kushiel once I pull it out of the storage box probably in the next week or so |
| 02:22.29 | Iriel | â100% of the keys youâd be able to remember with your eyes closedâ ? |
| 02:22.36 | foxlit | it lost the numpad. |
| 02:22.36 | Cairenn | Yeah, no |
| 02:23.08 | Iriel | foxlit: they did that FN + the keys on the right thing |
| 02:23.09 | Amarande | Iriel: hey, there's those Das keyboards that don't have labels at all on the keys where you really are expected to memorise it :) |
| 02:23.19 | Iriel | Amarande: I used one of those for several years |
| 02:23.42 | Iriel | Amarande: Playing more games finally did it in for me, since iâd have to find random ânon-practicedâ keys. |
| 02:24.06 | Amarande | getting ready for the moves of the next year or so, which is going to involve me moving twice, once in Connecticut and once to my fiancee's place in Illinois |
| 02:24.21 | Iriel | Which bit of IL? |
| 02:24.26 | Amarande | Chicago area |
| 02:24.48 | Cairenn | The two biggest 'problems' I have with their default layout is remembering where the ' " and [ ] keys are |
| 02:24.48 | Iriel | I lived up near the WI border for 5 years when I moved to the US |
| 02:24.55 | Amarande | kushiel is going to stay in Connecticut with the family when I move to IL, pretty much it has to since I don't have the original CPU cooler or even the mount for it anymore, and shipping a PC long distance with a heavy aftermarket cooler on it is a bad idea |
| 02:25.05 | Cairenn | but it hasn't bothered me enough (as of yet?) to bother remapping them |
| 02:25.24 | Amarande | so I'm going to pull the 770 from naamah, pack it with all the other loose computer parts I'm not using, and pack naamah up for eventual transport, and use kushiel for the rest of my time in CT |
| 02:25.24 | kd3 | hm. I should check if I showed up on tv. I lucked out and got a spot close to a tv camera during the parade |
| 02:26.09 | Amarande | so now I also finally do get to find out how the AMD Linux drivers are doing lately :) |
| 02:26.43 | Amarande | naamah = Xeon E3-1240V3 + GTX 770; kushiel = FX-6300 + HD 7850 |
| 02:27.01 | Amarande | which ... given AMD's recent architecture or lack of same ... is still pretty much a current Radeon LOL |
| 02:30.59 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 02:31.11 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 02:31.59 | Amarande | also dear effing god, Corsair AF120 fans are loud |
| 02:32.03 | Amarande | and this is the so-called "Quiet Edition" |
| 02:32.12 | Iriel | kd3: Hopefully this isnât close to where you live - http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/3-shot-near-Oakland-s-Lake-Merritt-amid-nearby-6338128.php |
| 02:32.20 | Amarande | actually, they're not so loud that I can hear them above the air conditioner, but enough to be noticeably noisy if I turn the A/C unit off |
| 02:32.52 | kd3 | nah. I was at the corner of grand and harrison around then |
| 02:32.56 | Iriel | (My oakland geography is not good so I have no intuitive sense of where these things are) |
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| 02:33.23 | kd3 | I never heard gunshots, but then it was kinda noisy |
| 02:33.40 | Iriel | Oh, the night of the victory I did eventually hear ONE firework |
| 02:33.41 | Iriel | At about 2am |
| 02:34.05 | kd3 | oh, wait, lakeshore and 18th is literally on the opposite side of the lake from where I was |
| 02:35.22 | kd3 | https://goo.gl/maps/4d4vK |
| 02:36.10 | Fisker | never lucky |
| 02:36.56 | Iriel | kd3: Thanks 8-) I wonder if thereâs a lmgmtfy.com |
| 02:36.58 | kd3 | "amusingly", for some sense of the word, I was closer to the shootout in emeryville yesterday. http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Gunfight-Breaks-Out-in-Pak-N-Save-Parking-Lot-in-Emeryville-308316281.html |
| 02:37.35 | kd3 | https://goo.gl/maps/URS0x |
| 02:38.05 | Fisker | I miss democracy Cairenn :( |
| 02:38.35 | Iriel | I drive about 600 ft from that every day |
| 02:38.47 | Iriel | âDemocracy Cairenn, now with added ballotsâ ? |
| 02:38.58 | Cairenn | *snark* |
| 02:39.06 | Fisker | :o |
| 02:39.08 | Fisker | rude |
| 02:39.40 | Cairenn | Yay for the Oxford comma. ;) |
| 02:43.21 | Fisker | It's bad enough we have regular nazis now the grammar nazis too? |
| 02:43.23 | Fisker | :( |
| 02:43.26 | Fisker | :P |
| 02:44.21 | Fisker | I still think it was funny back when those guys were sending out flyers where I live and the guy who made them just google searched for the logo |
| 02:44.36 | Fisker | unfortunately the top result was a swastika-infused variant of their logo |
| 02:45.45 | Iriel | Fisker: classy |
| 02:46.01 | Fisker | http://www.computerworld.dk/fil/92168/243 |
| 02:46.02 | Fisker | :P |
| 02:47.09 | Cairenn | It's a shame how the swastika was perverted by the Nazis |
| 02:47.16 | Fisker | true |
| 03:09.15 | WrathTECH | Actually, the Swastika that stands for the Nazi's is inverted from the real swastika. |
| 03:09.59 | Cairenn | Yes, it is. Part of the perversion. |
| 03:11.09 | WrathTECH | Unfortunately. I had a fun time on eBay dealing with that. Had a pin with the "Good Luck" Swastika, kept getting reported for Nazi propaganda, when it was for a bar, not even related to the war. |
| 03:11.27 | Cairenn | I bet |
| 03:11.40 | WrathTECH | Made me rage for sure. : / |
| 03:13.26 | Cairenn | Another one that makes me a little crazy is every time someone purports that a pentacle is a symbol of devil worship. >< |
| 03:14.16 | WrathTECH | Yup, there's Satanisms inverted symbol, then one for Wicca, which Wicca doesn't have anything to do with Satan, it's acually highly spiritual. |
| 03:14.56 | Cairenn | even the inverted one isn't -actually- Satanic |
| 03:15.19 | WrathTECH | This is true. |
| 03:15.33 | Amarande | Yeah, if anything, the pentacle is the *opposite*, which is exactly *why* it's used in demon summoning rituals as well |
| 03:15.47 | WrathTECH | ^ |
| 03:15.58 | WrathTECH | Back in a bit, need a 5 min break from the comp |
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| 03:19.47 | WrathTECH | Okay, how in the world do you toggle the talent frame securely. -_- |
| 03:32.19 | WrathTECH | http://pastebin.com/SNVCpvTa Line no 838, when I use ToggleTalentFrame() is causing the taint. |
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| 03:43.13 | foxlit | of only there was this website where addon authors could document API pages |
| 03:43.17 | foxlit | s/o/i/ |
| 03:43.48 | foxlit | on this purely hypothetical website, the page for ToggleTalentFrame would perhaps even tell you that calling ToggleTalentFrame won't work |
| 03:44.31 | foxlit | and perhaps even discuss what you could do instead. wouldn't that be great? |
| 03:50.13 | Iriel | foxlit: wow foxlit, that sounds like something only a hopeless idealist would dream of |
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| 03:51.52 | Amarande | for that matter, why did blizzard even decide the talent frame needed to be protected and require secure functions anyway |
| 03:52.07 | Amarande | is there actually anything you can *do* from the talent frame that would unbalance the game if you could do it programmatically |
| 03:52.12 | Amarande | it's not like you can swap talents mid bossfight :) |
| 03:53.58 | Amarande | once again, I get this sneaky feeling even if I had the best idea in the world I would never succeed at developing an MMO, heh |
| 03:54.31 | Amarande | simply because it's not natural for me to think from the bad guy's standpoint, which probably means I'd end up with an exploit ridden mess everyone leaves to the bots before long LOL |
| 03:55.42 | foxlit | ui code just hasn't caught up to game design, and actual game design doesn't really want it to. |
| 03:57.20 | foxlit | so we get this neither-here-nor-there mess. |
| 04:00.52 | Amarande | yup, sounds like it :| |
| 04:01.16 | Amarande | and yet meanwhile, without the whole taint framework that addon devs and users find exasperating on a regular basis, we probably would be a bot ridden mess I'm guessing |
| 04:01.41 | Iriel | Bot or extensive player automation |
| 04:01.42 | foxlit | (it's the tension between pretending talent choices are deep and meaningful, and allowing you to change talents every boss pull) |
| 04:01.51 | Amarande | not that we've actually had much in the way of bossfights that seem to actually use debuffs diversely enough to make old school decursive really what it was |
| 04:02.44 | Amarande | and hey, some aspects of the game are pretty much automated already |
| 04:02.50 | Amarande | playing the auction house? :) |
| 04:02.56 | Amarande | hi there auctioneer! :D |
| 04:05.01 | kd3 | gah. I'm effectively back to a single-headed setup at home. need my next paycheck so I can buy a new monitor |
| 04:05.59 | Amarande | #firstworldproblems |
| 04:06.18 | Amarande | I've never gone double-headed ... I've never really seen it as great enough to justify the desk real estate issues |
| 04:06.32 | Amarande | (well, that and I have a monitor and a TV, and the TV is total and absolute shit with computers) |
| 04:06.54 | Amarande | well, maybe not total and absolute, it does graphics and videos decently, but text makes my eyes want to bleed LOL |
| 04:13.53 | jleclanche | kd3: got a spare tv somewhere? |
| 04:14.05 | kd3 | I just moved, so, no |
| 04:14.07 | jleclanche | aw |
| 04:15.50 | jleclanche | kd3: well, fwiw its not too hard to find people who want to get rid of their TVs for next to nothing |
| 04:16.23 | kd3 | yah |
| 04:16.30 | jleclanche | sidenote |
| 04:16.31 | jleclanche | WTFFFFFFFFFFFFF. |
| 04:16.32 | jleclanche | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9748523 |
| 04:16.50 | Fisker | if you want kd3 I got a few spare monitors if you come get them |
| 04:16.54 | Fisker | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 04:17.09 | kd3 | sure, let me just drive across the atlantic |
| 04:17.21 | Fisker | Don't be so dramatic |
| 04:17.23 | Fisker | :P |
| 04:17.31 | jleclanche | still cheaper than buying an apple monitor |
| 04:17.39 | Fisker | oh burn |
| 04:17.53 | Fisker | Apple monitors are still actually 16:10 though aren't they? |
| 04:18.22 | Fisker | Last time I looked at 27" monitors I cried that Apple seemed to be pretty much the only one with a 16:10 monitor that big |
| 04:18.33 | jleclanche | Fisker: yes, 16:10 sounds like their profit margin |
| 04:18.37 | jleclanche | (doubleburn!) |
| 04:19.05 | Amarande | yeah 16:10 is getting saddeningly rare :( |
| 04:19.14 | Amarande | I'll probably have to say goodbye to that aspect ratio once this monitor ever kicks is |
| 04:19.16 | Amarande | *it |
| 04:19.45 | Amarande | mind you if I still played modern games much what I really would have wanted was one of those sweet LG 1440p 21:9 monitors |
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| 04:19.59 | Amarande | 21:9 seems like it would be absolutely perfect for MMOs especially |
| 04:20.42 | foxlit | Fisker: 16:9. |
| 04:20.42 | Amarande | use the extra screen width on each side as dashboards with all your favourite addons/UI elements and leave the centre part as a fully open viewport |
| 04:20.48 | Fisker | hey foxlit |
| 04:20.50 | Fisker | I'm sorry |
| 04:21.35 | jleclanche | foxlit: hey does master plan yell if the inn proposes Soulare of Andorhal ? |
| 04:22.05 | foxlit | no. you're mostly on your own with inn recruits. It'll tell you what race they are and what abilites they may get, but not much else. |
| 04:22.30 | jleclanche | foxlit: would you be willing to implement some sort of marker for that one? (its the toy one) |
| 04:22.48 | jleclanche | and if not, does anyone know an addon that does that |
| 04:22.55 | jleclanche | cause fuck remembering his name |
| 04:23.16 | foxlit | if you only care about the toy, find someone else's soulare through the group finder. |
| 04:23.31 | jleclanche | thats kinda irrelevant |
| 04:23.41 | Amarande | hah, toys |
| 04:23.43 | Amarande | that reminds me |
| 04:23.57 | Amarande | I apparently obtained an accessory for the selfie cam but I never got around to actually getting the selfie cam :) |
| 04:24.30 | Outrider | Just discovered Easing Functions |
| 04:24.32 | Outrider | this is my new toy :D |
| 04:24.48 | Outrider | hmmm physics in game |
| 04:24.50 | Outrider | so good |
| 04:28.10 | foxlit | well, maybe. ticket it and I'll get around to it eventually, though probably not in the short term. |
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| 04:31.22 | jleclanche | foxlit: no account and not that bothered |
| 04:31.30 | jleclanche | but yeah itd be nice |
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| 05:03.25 | Iriel | faills a saving throw against sleep. Gânight all. |
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| 06:09.14 | jleclanche | ~seen Sembiance |
| 06:09.15 | purl | i haven't seen 'sembiance', jleclanche |
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| 07:01.09 | WrathTECH | Is it just me or is OneBag3 no longer on curse.com? |
| 07:02.43 | nevcairiel | thereis onebag4, why would you want an old and outdated version |
| 07:03.05 | WrathTECH | OneBag3 works better, and wasn't outdated. |
| 07:03.16 | WrathTECH | Meh, back to Bagnon |
| 07:03.38 | nevcairiel | if it still works, why do you need it to be on curse =p |
| 07:04.00 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 07:04.01 | Fisker | H E Y |
| 07:04.02 | nevcairiel | its on wowinterface and wowace apparently |
| 07:04.03 | WrathTECH | It just dumbfounded me. Used to be on Curse |
| 07:04.06 | nevcairiel | hey Fisker |
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| 08:09.16 | VIad | figured it out, need only use itemappearance and the itemappearancemodifier db2 files |
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| 08:12.34 | karl_w_w | so i left the steam game running for 12 hours and it reached 7.3 GB of ram usage |
| 08:13.16 | karl_w_w | well, the script auto-refreshes so it may have got higher without me seeing it |
| 08:13.47 | nevcairiel | if you are actually using such a script it shouldnt ever get that high |
| 08:14.12 | nevcairiel | unless your browser fails at releasing memory on a reload |
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| 10:14.15 | karl_w_w | I don't see your meaning nevcairiel |
| 10:14.51 | karl_w_w | if it hasn't reloaded since it started building up that 7.2 GB then the script wouldn't change that |
| 10:19.37 | nevcairiel | It reloads quite regularly, and the game doesn't build up memory that fast |
| 10:54.15 | karl_w_w | mine doesn't reload regularly at all |
| 10:54.52 | karl_w_w | https://gfycat.com/OblongPertinentIrishwaterspaniel |
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| 13:08.04 | Fisker | Just hey Shirik |
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| 13:36.56 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
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| 14:10.01 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/z4iOMnX.jpg |
| 14:10.07 | karl_w_w | console gaming |
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| 15:55.28 | phibonacci | Hello. |
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| 16:10.41 | Semlar | is it possible to generate a full list of current cvars from the client |
| 16:11.15 | Ressy | yes |
| 16:11.55 | Semlar | do you know if the list on http://wowprogramming.com/docs/cvars is up to date |
| 16:12.15 | Ressy | That I dunno about.. I know I haven't updated the list on wowpedia in a while.. |
| 16:12.59 | Semlar | if you call GetCVar and it returns an empty result does that mean that particular cvar doesn't even exist any more or is just not set |
| 16:13.27 | Semlar | i don't know if cvars can be set to nothing |
| 16:14.10 | nevcairiel | obviously cvars can be empty |
| 16:14.22 | Semlar | they can be empty, but i think they'll probably return a string |
| 16:14.30 | nevcairiel | test |
| 16:14.53 | Semlar | apparently the game actually throws an error if you try to set a cvar that doesn't exist |
| 16:15.02 | Ressy | semlar.. |
| 16:15.04 | Ressy | if you want a full list.. |
| 16:15.36 | Ressy | Go into BDA, into Settings.. Game Settings, click "Additional command line arguments" then add "-console" in the box |
| 16:15.39 | Ressy | launch the game. |
| 16:15.48 | Ressy | then hit ~ (beside the 1 key) to pull up the console. |
| 16:15.58 | Ressy | type help to bring up a list of categories for cvars |
| 16:16.09 | nevcairiel | note that some of those are also commands, not vars |
| 16:16.55 | Ressy | hit esc to get rid of the console window at any point |
| 16:18.36 | Semlar | thanks |
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| 17:25.59 | karl_w_w | $35 spent this sale |
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| 17:55.41 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 17:55.45 | Fisker | why did they ruin wikipedia? |
| 18:02.49 | karl_w_w | it's what they do |
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| 19:11.56 | zenzelezz | remember kids, 80% of moral is oral |
| 19:57.55 | zenzelezz | "The null coalescing operator (??)" o_O |
| 19:59.16 | karl_w_w | so the hololens thing was faked |
| 20:02.16 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: x ?? y -- is basically equivalent to x != null ? x : y; |
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| 20:51.49 | Torhal | zenzelezz: What's so o_O about the null-coalescing operator? |
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| 22:14.42 | zenzelezz | Torhal: I have no idea |
| 22:19.06 | karl_w_w | one of the hidden bargains of the steam sale: http://store.steampowered.com/app/287260 |
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| 22:23.08 | Maldivia | micro machines? |
| 22:23.56 | karl_w_w | indeed |
| 22:24.07 | karl_w_w | I believe made by the same people |
| 22:26.27 | zenzelezz | Euro Truck Simulator... not really something I find interesting, but $4.5... just might end up next to actual purchases |
| 22:27.08 | Maldivia | that's kind of what steam sales are all about... buying games you're not interested in, but they are cheap, so why not |
| 22:27.42 | Amarande | that's kind of what wasting money is all about LOL |
| 22:28.52 | karl_w_w | euro truck sim 2 is a game you buy. |
| 22:29.14 | nebula169 | never understood the appeal of those games |
| 22:29.33 | karl_w_w | at this point $4.50 is a gamble you should take, 98% of people like that game |
| 22:30.28 | karl_w_w | nobody understand the appeal of ETS2 until they play it |
| 22:30.49 | zenzelezz | those kinds of games seem a bit like the football manager type games... they may sound "eh?", but they sell a lot, and have pretty dedicated communities |
| 22:30.56 | karl_w_w | it's not like any other sim I've played, and I've tried a lot of them without much success |
| 22:31.13 | karl_w_w | ETS2 is actually enjoyable to play |
| 22:31.24 | karl_w_w | rather than most sims which you sort of... experience |
| 22:31.29 | karl_w_w | struggle through |
| 22:32.10 | Maldivia | and it has, what ,30 DLCs? |
| 22:33.16 | karl_w_w | almost all paint jobs, which can be ignored |
| 22:33.34 | karl_w_w | there are 2 expansions which are proper expansions |
| 22:34.16 | zenzelezz | well, the Deluxe bundle, which seems to have a lot of stuff, is $17 |
| 22:35.00 | karl_w_w | the latest expansion only came out a couple of months ago |
| 22:35.13 | karl_w_w | scandinavia, pushes the price up on its own |
| 22:35.25 | karl_w_w | the other one is going east which is much cheaper now |
| 22:35.48 | Maldivia | deluxe has all the DLCs |
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| 22:46.02 | Amarande | wow, here's an indication of just how much of a dick hexos is, too |
| 22:46.14 | Amarande | ... apparently Super Hexagon is the third hardest PC game *of all time* according to GameFAQs |
| 22:46.23 | Amarande | and of all games, WoW bases a brawl boss on that LOL |
| 22:48.09 | Amarande | (#1 is Angband, and #2 is I Wanna Be The Guy) |
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