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| 01:07.56 | WrathTECH | Okay, I have been researching for the last few hours. How the heck do you hide a secure frame (button more or less). Trying to hide StoreMicroButton... |
| 01:16.35 | Primer | Frame:Hide() |
| 01:17.49 | WrathTECH | It's secure, doesn' |
| 01:18.00 | WrathTECH | ....... It's secure, doesn't work |
| 01:18.11 | WrathTECH | But I just got it working from another addon. |
| 01:21.03 | Gnarfoz | Primer is right, tho |
| 01:21.19 | Primer | for once |
| 01:21.37 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 01:21.52 | Semlar | yeah unless that button reshows itself i don't know why you'd need anything else |
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| 01:31.28 | WrathTECH | Using Frame:HIde() won't hide it unfortunately. But being the nature of my addon, having a button for all frames, I am hiding the micro buttons and replacing them with a button to toggle my addon. |
| 01:32.49 | WrathTECH | Fun part will be making it compatible with Dominoes and Bartender. |
| 01:34.20 | Semlar | why would that not hide it |
| 01:34.58 | WrathTECH | It's a secure button. I don't know, it doesnt though. |
| 01:35.04 | Semlar | it doesn't matter if it's secure |
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| 01:36.37 | WrathTECH | http://pastebin.com/YLQzV13E |
| 01:36.56 | WrathTECH | First line used bysitself does nothing. Other script works. |
| 01:38.02 | Semlar | also that button isn't secure |
| 01:38.49 | WrathTECH | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:39.07 | WrathTECH | I'm still learning. I know a simple line to hide it doesn't do it. |
| 01:39.19 | Semlar | because it's being shown after you hide it |
| 01:39.27 | Semlar | not because it's failing to be hidden |
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| 01:40.03 | WrathTECH | Ahh, so my hide buttons should be at the bottom of my lua? |
| 01:40.25 | Gnarfoz | the script hides the button if the microbuttons are updated and... a variable by the name StoreMicroButton exists/is true? |
| 01:40.55 | Gnarfoz | does it ever not exist? |
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| 03:56.25 | Primer | ok, so this wow token...if I do a search on the AH for "token", there is nothing. These are obtained in the AH, no? |
| 03:57.02 | Semlar | there's a category |
| 03:57.13 | Semlar | on the side of the auction house |
| 03:57.16 | kd3 | there's a category |
| 03:57.20 | Semlar | i believe it's colored |
| 03:57.32 | kd3 | http://wow.gamepedia.com/File:WoW_Token_Auction_House_tab.jpg |
| 03:58.12 | Primer | thanks |
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| 04:00.58 | Primer | hrmm, now to figure out what to do...most of my gold is on a dead realm, but that's where I have 3 100s, all >= 676 |
| 04:01.22 | Primer | but I have close to 100k on a high pop realm, but the highest level dude there is 96 |
| 04:04.09 | Semlar | first world problems |
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| 04:45.02 | Dagmar | EGADS |
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| 04:45.39 | Amarande | heh, sadly I think WoW may have hit my list of games I won't be returning to |
| 04:45.50 | Dagmar | So I saw the Logitech G910 yesterday, thought the concept of giving up on the integrated display and simply using a smartphone app to be not a bad idea. |
| 04:46.09 | Amarande | it just didn't have the same feeling to it this time round as before ... and on top of that I'm not happy with the direction the devs are taking |
| 04:46.15 | Amarande | parkour puzzles? no flying? urngh. |
| 04:46.43 | Dagmar | Came home, and looked into specifically how that worked to find that if I updated the Logitech software for my G510, that it would actually talk to the smartphone app Arx... which apparently happens over the local network. |
| 04:46.59 | Dagmar | ...which I see at least partly IN PLAINTEXT |
| 04:47.11 | Amarande | I guess that leaves SW:TOR and FFXIV as my MMOs to potentially return to list |
| 04:47.33 | Mr_Rabies | if you don't enjoy a game there's no reason to continue playing it |
| 04:48.08 | Amarande | maybe LOTRO, but 2 expansions behind will be a bit expensive to catch up on, and they still haven't fixed that horrid crap with the "no quest completion in combat" interacting with story quests where you're meant to run from the mobs not fight them |
| 04:48.09 | Mr_Rabies | i -mostly- like the direction wow's in now, especially compared to MoP pre-5.2 |
| 04:48.23 | Amarande | like, imagine if you couldn't talk to the dude on the ship at the end of Halls of Reflection while in combat |
| 04:48.35 | Mr_Rabies | 5.0-5.1 wow was miserable |
| 04:48.36 | Amarande | that's pretty much what lotro did to some of its story quests :( |
| 04:48.56 | Mr_Rabies | we'll see where WoD takes us |
| 04:49.14 | Mr_Rabies | i do like that i'm not compelled to play all day, all week to have fun with my raid group |
| 04:49.36 | Mr_Rabies | but i don't really like the 5 man dungeon design, they take way too long, so basically all i have to do is raid with my group |
| 04:49.47 | Amarande | I think the "never again" flying stance was kind of a last straw dick move, especially after promoting flying mounts so heavily hitherto |
| 04:49.58 | Amarande | and hell, as Torhal notes, the collectors edition of WoD even comes with a ... yes, flying mount! |
| 04:50.37 | Mr_Rabies | it can still fly, just not in draenor :v |
| 04:50.47 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: or in any future content, at that |
| 04:50.51 | Amarande | and it's not just that, it's been the latest in a chain of rather lukewarm moves |
| 04:50.58 | Mr_Rabies | they couldn't ever fly in raids, either, but no one ever complains about that |
| 04:51.16 | Amarande | apparently loot balance is pretty bad, so that unless you have a mythic (maybe heroic) raiding guild, you never see any upgrades from garrison gathered gear |
| 04:51.31 | Mr_Rabies | what? D: |
| 04:51.39 | Amarande | they went out of their way to twist people's arms to spend time in ashran even though everyone hated it |
| 04:51.57 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: apparently LFR loot, at least, is not at all an upgrade over what garrison missions can get you |
| 04:52.08 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 04:52.10 | Amarande | so unless you're guilded, you're never going to see a loot upgrade via doing group content |
| 04:52.15 | Mr_Rabies | garrison missions can get you mythic brf gear |
| 04:52.16 | Mr_Rabies | sooo |
| 04:52.23 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, but that's misleading |
| 04:52.32 | Amarande | and they kinda gutted the whole social aspect of the game with garrisons |
| 04:52.38 | Amarande | even orgrimmar is a friggin ghost town |
| 04:52.41 | Mr_Rabies | the best gear you can get from normal garrison missions is....630? ilvl? |
| 04:52.45 | Dagmar | Fucking christ |
| 04:53.05 | Mr_Rabies | and LFR drops better gear than that by far |
| 04:53.06 | Dagmar | I'll have to write an exploit for this in the morning |
| 04:53.20 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: oh, and apparently they literally taunted PTR players, not that I have been on the PTR in ages |
| 04:53.37 | Amarande | they accidentally let flying be enabled for a short time, basically making people feel "oh hey, look what might have been!" |
| 04:53.44 | Amarande | "but now you're never gonna get it na na" |
| 04:54.36 | Amarande | I was also one of those who actually liked professions, and those have been more or less gutted too |
| 04:54.52 | Amarande | basically, WoD has been a whole kettle of sad |
| 04:55.42 | Amarande | there are even people claiming that this is the doing of the Titan team, taking out frustration on the player base because apparently we were too disinterested in Titan and got their project canceled :P |
| 04:56.30 | Amarande | (either that, or heh, maybe this is the doing of the titan team and maybe that quality level is WHY titan got canceled, LOL) |
| 04:58.56 | Iriel | Conspiracy theory much? |
| 04:59.28 | Amarande | Iriel: well, we do know that Titan got canned for reasons unknown and that the Titan team was apparently reintegrated to the rest of Blizzard (since I didn't hear of mass layoffs after that) |
| 04:59.53 | Amarande | could well have impacted WoW dev, especially depending on how senior the affected devs were and therefore how much priority they get corporately |
| 05:00.09 | Amarande | (and if they couldn't hack it on one MMO, it's pretty reasonable to expect that they'd not have a particularly positive effect on another) |
| 05:01.51 | Amarande | ... after all, imagine hearing, say, to make an extreme example, that the executives for your fave movie franchise had just announced that Uwe Boll would be directing the next installment :) |
| 05:04.13 | Mr_Rabies | most of the titan team came from the wow team |
| 05:04.19 | Mr_Rabies | and rejoined them once titan was canceled |
| 05:04.58 | Iriel | Yeah, because senior developers think sabotaging the project theyâre on is a good idea. |
| 05:07.19 | Iriel | The blizzard design team made decisions that have had mixed results, not everyone likes them, as always itâll evolve, |
| 05:08.55 | Amarande | hmm, when did titan first split off |
| 05:10.15 | Amarande | eh, sabotaging ... not really, more like they're too adamant about decisions that the player base hates |
| 05:10.33 | Amarande | then again the titan team had nothing to do with CRZ, which was hated for a long time at launch (though partly because of how buggy it was for ages) |
| 05:10.43 | Mr_Rabies | i think you're confusing "things you hate" with "things everyone hates" |
| 05:11.03 | Mr_Rabies | even then, i'm glad they're making the game they want to make, instead of the game the community wants to make |
| 05:11.08 | Amarande | (although crz does have some negative legacies, like the fact that now everyone gets stuck with world events on a PT schedule, no matter what time zone their server is actually in) |
| 05:11.16 | Mr_Rabies | design by committee is miserable, especially when that committee is the wow forums |
| 05:12.12 | Amarande | also I get the impression that CRZ was a decision made by high level corporates that even the devs probably had shoved down their throats |
| 05:12.32 | Amarande | the financial logistics folks wanted costs cut by being able to streamline the server farm, and the devs were told to find a way to do it, I imagine |
| 05:13.10 | Amarande | I wonder how often that happens in software/game dev :( |
| 05:13.40 | Amarande | where the crappy decision that gets reviled is actually handed down from executive level and even the devs don't want to do it, and are forced to come up with some PR-acceptable excuse as to why they're doing it |
| 05:14.11 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: yeah that's a sticking point of argument too |
| 05:14.24 | Amarande | you have the people on one side who wholly support the devs and feel that the player base are a bunch of entitled babies |
| 05:14.44 | Amarande | on the other side you have the people who feel that customers need to be respected (and they do to some degree, because if you don't have customers, you don't have a business :S) |
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| 05:22.32 | Mr_Rabies | customers certainly shouldn't be entirely ignored, but you can't take the wow forums as any basis for the community |
| 05:22.48 | Mr_Rabies | they're a very small part of the community, and people tend to just go there and bitch |
| 05:23.23 | Iriel | Amarande: have you ever SPOKEN to a wow dev? |
| 05:23.50 | Iriel | Amarande: And when you did, were they all angry and bitter about having stuff âstuffed down their throatsâ, or were they kinda of excited to be working on wow, and wishing they just had a bit more time to make things more awesome? |
| 05:28.11 | Iriel | Hm, they REALLY want me to make sure I get that Heroes of the Storm pet in wow |
| 05:28.16 | Iriel | One in my inventory and one in my mailbox |
| 05:28.40 | bluspacecow | oh rly? |
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| 05:29.57 | Iriel | And my bank is missing |
| 05:29.58 | Iriel | WTF |
| 05:30.58 | Iriel | (the building in my garrison) |
| 05:35.41 | Mr_Rabies | force a rephase, probably |
| 05:36.12 | Mr_Rabies | i've had my garrison in various broken states, i usually fly out to a nearby flight point, log out, and fly back, which is probably double overkill but vOv |
| 05:37.09 | Iriel | Iâll see how it looks when I cycle back to her |
| 05:38.17 | bluspacecow | PTR or Live Iriel ? |
| 05:38.21 | Iriel | Live |
| 05:38.39 | bluspacecow | yeah force a rephase. Run out run back in LOL |
| 05:42.07 | Iriel | Re-Log - Still missing |
| 05:42.14 | Iriel | Run down the road and back - Still missing |
| 05:43.20 | Iriel | Stormwind -> Vashjâir -> Garrison - Still missing |
| 05:46.11 | Mr_Rabies | ooh |
| 05:46.15 | Mr_Rabies | another thing, iriel |
| 05:46.21 | Mr_Rabies | move the buildings around in the building view |
| 05:46.32 | Mr_Rabies | trade it with another of the same size and then back |
| 05:46.41 | Iriel | I tried that, itâs just plain missing |
| 05:46.45 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 05:46.53 | bluspacecow | like the plot where you build ? |
| 05:46.56 | Mr_Rabies | like, not even in the builder view? like it got deleted? |
| 05:46.57 | Mr_Rabies | @_@ |
| 05:46.59 | Iriel | The plot is now empty |
| 05:47.01 | Iriel | Yes |
| 05:47.05 | Mr_Rabies | what on earth |
| 05:47.13 | Mr_Rabies | you can't delete buildings as far as i know |
| 05:47.14 | Mr_Rabies | what |
| 05:48.59 | bluspacecow | is the plot there to build on or is it gone too ? |
| 05:49.09 | Iriel | The plot is there |
| 05:49.15 | Iriel | Itâs just an empty small plot |
| 05:49.29 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 05:49.47 | Iriel | Weâll see if opening a ticket helps |
| 05:52.11 | Mr_Rabies | weird |
| 05:52.31 | Mr_Rabies | you could, of course, just rebuild it probably, but if it happened to a bank it could happen to a building with work orders |
| 05:53.12 | Iriel | Iâd like the gold back if nothing else. |
| 05:53.39 | Iriel | But iâd like support to know it can happen, too |
| 05:56.45 | Iriel | I wonder what Bethesda is giving me for my birthday, hopefully Fallout 4. |
| 06:03.28 | Mr_Rabies | irl horse armor |
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| 06:10.51 | bluspacecow | armor made of horses ? you monster! |
| 06:11.15 | Iriel | Hm, if they make it dog-sized it might just work! |
| 06:18.23 | Iriel | I just noticed this countdown clock on the bethesda page actually ticks down the minutes |
| 06:41.14 | Kalroth | very exact |
| 06:41.18 | Kalroth | much excitement |
| 06:43.14 | karl_w_w | Gnarfoz, https://what-if.xkcd.com/58/ |
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| 06:55.48 | WrathTECH | Whats a good addon that uses an xml file to set keybinds? |
| 06:55.59 | WrathTECH | Cannot think of one off the top of my head... |
| 06:56.27 | Iriel | For what kind of binding? |
| 06:57.00 | WrathTECH | To hide and show my addon |
| 06:57.07 | WrathTECH | Frame, that is |
| 06:58.38 | Iriel | http://pastebin.com/ATEt6zPg |
| 06:59.01 | WrathTECH | Thank you, Iriel. |
| 06:59.17 | Iriel | http://pastebin.com/13WLvWVC |
| 06:59.27 | Iriel | If you want to make it do button clicks use that form |
| 06:59.35 | WrathTECH | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:59.37 | Iriel | The thing after the colon is the button ID |
| 07:00.13 | Iriel | http://pastebin.com/fuhb9u2E |
| 07:00.23 | Iriel | Thereâs how to set the labels for click style bindings (for the UI) |
| 07:00.25 | WrathTECH | Should be just enough to help me learn the XML bindings part of programming. |
| 07:01.48 | WrathTECH | I take it's best to put that label part at the start of your Lua file, correct/ |
| 07:02.35 | Iriel | Yes, well, I put it at the end of mine, but as long as it happens during load youâre good. |
| 07:09.33 | jleclanche | Fisker: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9647350 |
| 07:11.14 | WrathTECH | Sweet, it's working Iriel. Now I just need to see if I can't override ESC, sindce my addon is a game menu replacement.... |
| 07:12.06 | Iriel | The trick will be to get yours to back off nicely when the game wants to borrow ESC for something else |
| 07:12.18 | WrathTECH | Oh I am sure |
| 07:12.18 | Iriel | I dont /think/ blizzard went back and made their own stuff use SetOverrideBinding |
| 07:12.43 | WrathTECH | Yeah, I know the game menu is secure, and I am sure ESC is also |
| 07:14.39 | Iriel | WrathTECH: thereâs always http://www.iriel.org/wow/docs/SecureHeadersGuide-4.0-r1.pdf |
| 07:14.47 | Iriel | if you have to create some secure stuff of your own |
| 07:14.55 | WrathTECH | Ty ty! |
| 07:15.25 | WrathTECH | And I see your point, I bound Escape to my addon, can't close other frames now. |
| 07:15.38 | Iriel | heh |
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| 07:15.53 | WrathTECH | Rofl, gotta be a way to learn, right? --- |
| 07:15.59 | WrathTECH | Wb Torhal |
| 07:16.09 | Iriel | Better than an infinite loop |
| 07:17.17 | WrathTECH | Torhal: I re added Platter, under a slightly different name: Platter (Game Menu Enhanced) |
| 07:17.29 | WrathTECH | Working good now |
| 07:18.13 | WrathTECH | Oh I've had a few infinite loops before. BugGrabber wouldn't shut the heck up. |
| 07:19.14 | WrathTECH | Faality, Fatality, Fatality. . . . . . . . . . |
| 07:29.02 | Fisker | It's been like that for ages jleclanche |
| 07:29.08 | Fisker | At least publicly |
| 07:29.27 | Fisker | They're enemies of copyleft not "stuff we can steal as long as we just give credit" |
| 07:30.07 | jleclanche | huh? |
| 07:30.46 | jleclanche | anyone on HS US i can spectate for a win? |
| 07:42.49 | karl_w_w | I can do it jleclanche |
| 07:44.32 | jleclanche | \o/ |
| 07:44.36 | jleclanche | adys#1523 |
| 07:46.56 | Fisker | I don't know about their internal development policies jleclanche |
| 07:47.21 | Fisker | But as far as the public go they were always "ok" with MIT/BSD and whatever their own open source license was called |
| 07:47.27 | Fisker | It's GPL and similar licenses they hate |
| 07:48.48 | nevcairiel | every company hates GPL |
| 07:56.37 | Fisker | Not every |
| 07:57.20 | Fisker | And probably not for the same reason |
| 07:57.29 | Fisker | Microsoft basically says that GPL is anti-competitive |
| 07:58.01 | karl_w_w | well it is in a way |
| 07:58.09 | Fisker | I believe they actually went as far as to specifically claim it prevented them from incorporating the changes themselves and reselling them effectively |
| 07:58.15 | karl_w_w | just not in the way they practice ant-competition |
| 08:08.49 | Gnarfoz | fair ant-competition for all ants! |
| 08:10.40 | WrathTECH | Okay is there at any one time that your addon file you upload doesn't need approval on curseforge? |
| 08:11.02 | nevcairiel | Uploading zip files always needs approval |
| 08:11.56 | WrathTECH | Gahh. guess I will have to move to a repo then |
| 08:12.04 | WrathTECH | Don't know a thing about them though... |
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| 08:19.02 | WrathTECH | Is there a way to add a script to "table.insert(UISpecialFrames,"Platter")"? |
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| 08:22.10 | Semlar | i don't understand the question |
| 08:22.58 | WrathTECH | When I hit esc to close my frame, the frames that I hide while my frame is open, aren't returning to be shown again. |
| 08:24.04 | Semlar | you want to do something when your frame is hidden? |
| 08:24.48 | WrathTECH | Well, when the frame gets shown, I have it hiding the other UI elements, hitting esc doesn't toggle those frames to show again. |
| 08:25.19 | WrathTECH | It works to show those frames again via my Keybind or using the toggle button |
| 08:29.47 | WrathTECH | Semlar: I am uploading the most current version, v0.92, Check it out and see what I mean. |
| 08:30.03 | Semlar | well, that's not standard behavior so presumably you're doing something to restore the windows |
| 08:30.12 | Semlar | just do that when the frame is hidden |
| 08:30.26 | WrathTECH | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/platter-game-menu-enhanced/files/3-platter-0-92/ |
| 08:36.52 | WrathTECH | http://i.imgur.com/BDRgiYB.jpg I hate how cute and devoted my cat is. |
| 09:05.22 | VIad | WrathTECH: your cat giving you the draw me like your french girls eyes |
| 09:10.48 | WrathTECH | Only if I had a girl. lol |
| 09:14.44 | VIad | titanic reference flew over your head? |
| 09:15.01 | VIad | https://www.google.no/search?q=draw+me+like+one+of+your+french+girls&biw=1920&bih=977&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=iMVuVbjfHcS2sQHL5q2oBw&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ |
| 09:17.28 | WrathTECH | That, I did. Getting pretty sleepy. 4:17am |
| 09:17.34 | VIad | :P |
| 09:17.37 | WrathTECH | lol, very nice one :P |
| 09:17.38 | VIad | at work now! |
| 09:17.57 | VIad | 11:20AM for the amerikans |
| 09:18.17 | WrathTECH | Nah, not here, I'm in the US |
| 09:18.41 | WrathTECH | Big night owl, just have a lot on my platter (pun intended) |
| 09:19.59 | VIad | last time I was an night owl was when I was jobless :D |
| 09:20.08 | VIad | been a couple of years now |
| 09:20.14 | WrathTECH | Even if I have a job, still a night owl. lol |
| 09:20.27 | VIad | I must sleep 8 hours or I won't function |
| 09:20.28 | WrathTECH | 2nd shift tends to be perfect |
| 09:22.05 | VIad | tracking my hours, atm 6 hours at disposal from working overtime |
| 09:22.21 | VIad | might use an hour on friday, we will see |
| 09:22.49 | WrathTECH | Unfortunately, that's mainly whats keeping me from working atm. Major Fatigue, dealing with treatment for depression and anxiety. |
| 09:23.06 | VIad | don't be depressed |
| 09:23.08 | WrathTECH | Being tired 24/7 no matter what, sucks. |
| 09:23.17 | WrathTECH | I wish it was that easy |
| 09:23.24 | VIad | excersise! :D |
| 09:23.48 | WrathTECH | Especially right now, my grandpa just went into hospice yesterday. |
| 09:24.17 | VIad | :( |
| 09:24.38 | WrathTECH | We're not expecting him to live through the weekend, at least, so they say. |
| 09:24.49 | VIad | sucks if you like your grandpa |
| 09:25.05 | VIad | wasnt close enough with mine to really feel that sad at all when he died |
| 09:25.12 | WrathTECH | I do, and it sure does suck. But he's been battling cancer for what, 5 or 6 years now? |
| 09:25.45 | WrathTECH | We knew it was coming, at least... so we are prepared |
| 09:26.05 | VIad | :( |
| 09:51.19 | WrathTECH | Wow, surprised, actually getting some downloads. |
| 10:06.06 | VIad | <3 |
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| 11:00.19 | WrathTECH | Anybody have a sample of a *if key == "X" then* example? Trying to detect if escape is pressed to show a frame |
| 11:09.40 | Gnarfoz | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/scripts/OnKeyDown ? |
| 11:11.30 | tz_ | huh? I need a plugin file for curseforge addon? |
| 11:11.39 | Gnarfoz | you what now? |
| 11:11.59 | tz_ | just had a new addon knocked back on curseforge because I didn't provide a plugin file |
| 11:12.04 | tz_ | wat |
| 11:12.07 | Gnarfoz | "knocked back"? |
| 11:12.19 | Gnarfoz | and what's a "plugin file" supposed to be |
| 11:12.27 | tz_ | This project was not approved because: |
| 11:12.27 | tz_ | You must accompany a new project with a plugin file for your project to be approved. A better description would also be beneficial. |
| 11:12.30 | tz_ | no idea |
| 11:12.46 | Gnarfoz | did you create a project and add no files? |
| 11:13.07 | tz_ | created a project but haven't been able to put anything into the repo because it wasn't approved |
| 11:13.17 | Gnarfoz | maybe that's what they mean, no idea. this is the wrong channel for curse(forge) related things, anyway |
| 11:13.39 | tz_ | this is true |
| 11:13.56 | Gnarfoz | repository support used to start working from project creation, not after approval, though |
| 11:14.21 | tz_ | it did? hmmm, let me investigate |
| 11:15.23 | tz_ | ok I must've accidentally put it up as no repo |
| 11:19.21 | WrathTECH | http://pastebin.com/YTp4xHKG Would someone explain to me why this script is making it so you can't use the keyboard perios? |
| 11:19.24 | Gnarfoz | I think CF defaults to "file uploads" |
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| 13:42.35 | Gnarfoz | tz_: is that addon name a jab at anything...? :D |
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| 14:04.39 | bluspacecow | interesting |
| 14:04.40 | bluspacecow | http://investor.activision.com/secfiling.cfm?filingID=1104659-15-42522&CIK=718877 |
| 14:04.48 | bluspacecow | new product from Activsion Blizzard ? |
| 14:04.49 | tz_ | not really |
| 14:04.59 | tz_ | just the name stuck back when I first wrote it |
| 14:05.43 | tz_ | what did you think it was referring to? |
| 14:06.53 | Gnarfoz | nothing, puns. |
| 14:07.13 | tz_ | fair enough |
| 14:07.35 | Gnarfoz | description reads like it's basically going to be clcinfo, maybe with a more straight-forward "copy & paste simcraft result" approach |
| 14:07.52 | tz_ | that's pretty much exactly what it is, apart from the whole copy/paste bit |
| 14:08.40 | tz_ | too lazy to even put in screen placement config, lol |
| 14:08.48 | tz_ | I should probably do that at some point |
| 14:08.51 | Gnarfoz | there's certainly room for improvement in this area... each time something changes about Ret, I need to go hunting for the "proper" sequence for clcinfo, would be easier if I could just paste a simcraft result |
| 14:09.10 | Gnarfoz | (however, I'm not even sure I know how to get the "proper" result out of simcraft :D so there's that problem) |
| 14:09.30 | tz_ | well it's just the APL from simlationcraft before the result is even generated |
| 14:10.03 | tz_ | just goes thru the conditionals and checks against resource usage and CD availability, picks whichever comes out first |
| 14:10.12 | tz_ | bit of a mess though, but it works |
| 14:10.25 | Gnarfoz | bluspacecow: BlizzWatch, except it's not a blue post tracker but a smartwatch! |
| 14:10.42 | bluspacecow | lol hat |
| 14:10.49 | Gnarfoz | a hat? hmmm. |
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| 14:16.21 | bluspacecow | no they filed one of these last year.... |
| 14:17.04 | Gnarfoz | bluspacecow: it's actually in the damn thing if you read it through |
| 14:17.09 | Gnarfoz | Gnarfoz: it's for Skylanders. |
| 14:17.21 | bluspacecow | why are you talking to yourself ? |
| 14:17.23 | bluspacecow | you silly! |
| 14:17.29 | Gnarfoz | Gnarfoz: woah! |
| 14:17.40 | Gnarfoz | I guess quasselweb's nick completion went bonkers :D |
| 14:18.00 | bluspacecow | :( its raining again |
| 14:18.03 | bluspacecow | and I want to go to the gym |
| 14:19.35 | VIad | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr6ar3xJL_Q |
| 14:29.22 | Gnarfoz | bluspacecow: to wit: "The Company has reviewed its product line and determined that 3TGs are necessary to the functionality or production of some of the products it contracted to have manufactured during 2014, primarily its Skylanders âsmart toys,â which consist of action figures and an electronic âportal,â and certain branded metallic keychains sold directly to consumers through the web store operated by Blizzard Entertainment, Inc., |
| 14:29.23 | Gnarfoz | one of the Companyâs two primary operating units (collectively, the â covered products â). " |
| 14:29.25 | VIad | I love items in wod |
| 14:29.30 | Gnarfoz | (that probably got cut off) |
| 14:30.06 | VIad | 645x655 chest, the 655 has more status BUT lacks 220 multistrike that is mathematically better than the other stats I gain, so the 645 is still better than the 655 chest because of this |
| 14:30.36 | Gnarfoz | welcome to WoW itemization |
| 14:30.46 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1433341836.png |
| 14:30.51 | VIad | it wasnt like this with reforging |
| 14:30.57 | VIad | you could reforge some stats and still make it work |
| 14:31.04 | VIad | i.e. the 655 was an upgrade in the end |
| 14:31.07 | VIad | but not as things are now |
| 14:31.33 | VIad | using AMR stats weights to help calculate this |
| 14:31.34 | Gnarfoz | it was very much the same, just with even more possibilities |
| 14:31.45 | Gnarfoz | making life hell for AMR and such ;) |
| 14:31.51 | VIad | yeah but |
| 14:31.57 | VIad | with reforging I could make the new item work |
| 14:32.00 | Gnarfoz | but nothing, it's more clear cut now |
| 14:32.01 | VIad | and would feel like I got upgraded |
| 14:32.06 | Gnarfoz | so? the other item might still have been better. |
| 14:32.15 | VIad | the low ilvl item is better |
| 14:32.18 | Gnarfoz | yes. |
| 14:32.42 | VIad | it's like going next raid tier and the drops aren't upgrades from your old tier |
| 14:32.49 | Gnarfoz | a regular occurence. |
| 14:32.55 | Gnarfoz | since forever |
| 14:32.55 | VIad | wasn't like that in the olden days |
| 14:33.01 | Gnarfoz | it most certainly was |
| 14:33.10 | VIad | I don't remember this :P |
| 14:33.15 | Gnarfoz | if you were in the best gear obtainable from whatever was current before |
| 14:33.16 | VIad | and I was comparing items before too |
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| 14:33.48 | VIad | mc > bwl, aq > nax, wotlk nax > ulduar, no questions |
| 14:33.56 | VIad | you could see major changes in ilvl and stats between each ramp up |
| 14:34.02 | Gnarfoz | sure, sometimes a raid just didn't have "very good" items for your class/spec, and thus, whatever came with the new one was instantly better because of that |
| 14:34.56 | Gnarfoz | but no, your "no questions" line doesn't hold. set bonuses, stat preference and all that could easily skew the picture even back then |
| 14:35.08 | Gnarfoz | particularly considering there were more (and/or different) stats in the game, back then |
| 14:35.13 | Gnarfoz | remember +weapon skill? :D |
| 14:35.43 | VIad | even remember when secondary stats was % |
| 14:35.45 | VIad | like 1% crit |
| 14:35.48 | VIad | not ratings |
| 14:35.53 | VIad | fun times |
| 14:35.59 | VIad | weird itemization |
| 14:36.04 | VIad | plate with strength and spirit |
| 14:36.09 | VIad | anyway :p |
| 14:36.10 | Gnarfoz | vanilla had quite some quirks to exploit, if you knew they were there |
| 14:36.25 | Gnarfoz | and that they applied to you |
| 14:36.49 | VIad | just disappointing when I go my garrison stuffs and "oh new raid bag!" and I open it and the random epic item is better than the highmail epic :( |
| 14:37.10 | Gnarfoz | stacking +weapon skill and +hit made me top DPS over various R14-equipped or T2 equipped rogues, and I was in half blues, half mc, half bwl (yes, I know that's a half too much) |
| 14:37.29 | Gnarfoz | huh? "random epic item" is not a raid bag |
| 14:37.44 | VIad | the 645 is random epic bag thing |
| 14:37.49 | VIad | highmaul cache gave me 655 |
| 14:37.56 | Gnarfoz | you should raid more, then |
| 14:38.01 | Gnarfoz | you could get 685 there. |
| 14:38.28 | Gnarfoz | with just 10 ilvl budget difference, the situation we're talking about easily happens, true |
| 14:38.36 | Gnarfoz | 40 ilvl... not so much. :D |
| 14:38.47 | VIad | this still applies to raiders from brf |
| 14:38.53 | VIad | when the next tier is only 10 ilvl higher |
| 14:38.56 | VIad | same stuff :p |
| 14:39.00 | Gnarfoz | so what? |
| 14:39.03 | Gnarfoz | I'm not disagreeing with you |
| 14:39.13 | Gnarfoz | just about that it's new |
| 14:39.17 | VIad | sure |
| 14:39.27 | VIad | but many non mythic raiders just care for loot |
| 14:39.27 | Gnarfoz | sets are going to be fun next tier |
| 14:39.36 | VIad | gonna be disappoint when the new drops might be worse :p |
| 14:39.37 | Gnarfoz | even non-mythic raiders should get the mythic cache |
| 14:39.45 | Gnarfoz | look at nevcairiel! |
| 14:40.06 | Gnarfoz | his group is super slow (which is fine) but he's raking in the mythic epixxx |
| 14:40.40 | VIad | how much does nevcairiel play? |
| 14:41.01 | Gnarfoz | 2 nights a week, I think? nevcairiel? |
| 14:41.11 | Gnarfoz | they killed blackhand heroic last week, I think |
| 14:41.13 | VIad | like home from work, you got 5 hours before bed time for work the next day |
| 14:41.24 | VIad | those 5 hours are to be used for everything you must do |
| 14:41.48 | Gnarfoz | either you sleep a lot, have a long commute or... I'm not sure |
| 14:42.06 | VIad | buy stuff, clean, sort, prepare, family, e.g. then raid gets kind of quished in there in what ever time is left for it |
| 14:42.09 | Gnarfoz | you're not American, so you're probably not working 80 hours a week to pay off debt from breaking a leg some years back |
| 14:42.20 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 14:42.24 | VIad | that doesn't exactly help you have more time to play... |
| 14:42.56 | VIad | realistically sure lets say I wish to join some slow guild, I dont got much to offer so my application gonna suck :p |
| 14:43.02 | VIad | havent raided since wotlk |
| 14:43.04 | Gnarfoz | what, working 80 h weeks? that was the point :p (and a uninvited jab at US healthcare) |
| 14:43.20 | VIad | are applications a thing? |
| 14:43.48 | Gnarfoz | depends on the guild/raid team, probably |
| 14:44.16 | Gnarfoz | (we don't require formal applications currently, for example) |
| 14:44.49 | VIad | can't join a trade chat guild either |
| 14:45.08 | VIad | must find something serious enough, not totally crap, I can't stand 14 year old guilds |
| 14:45.26 | VIad | as in age of the members |
| 14:46.24 | Gnarfoz | trade chat guild? |
| 14:46.24 | VIad | wonder if there are any guild related sites anymore |
| 14:46.28 | VIad | to use to try find a guild |
| 14:46.28 | VIad | hmm |
| 14:46.52 | Gnarfoz | trade chat is the biggest audience, everyone advertises there... serious or not |
| 14:47.19 | VIad | I know |
| 14:47.25 | VIad | but preacher laughs at trade chat guilds |
| 14:47.29 | VIad | and I somewhat agree :p |
| 14:47.42 | Gnarfoz | who is preacher |
| 14:47.49 | VIad | anyone can make a tradechat guild, doesnt mean it will be any good though |
| 14:47.59 | VIad | religious figure |
| 14:48.01 | Gnarfoz | and I'm not sure what you mean by "trade chat guild" (seems to imply more) |
| 14:48.12 | Gnarfoz | I know what *a* preacher is, I mean who are you referring to |
| 14:48.26 | VIad | "lol lets make guild" then you spam chat for people until you have capped the member cap and then your /g is just like trade chat |
| 14:48.27 | VIad | basically :P |
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| 14:58.52 | Gnarfoz | ... I don't even |
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| 15:07.27 | VIad | <3 |
| 15:16.12 | VIad | wonder if pet battles can be automated |
| 15:16.14 | VIad | probably not sadly |
| 15:16.23 | VIad | just doing the same sequence on all my characters for the daily |
| 15:16.27 | VIad | very monotone :P |
| 15:22.35 | VIad | maybe bethesda abandons oblivion now with the mmo disaster |
| 15:22.50 | VIad | finally focuses on the single player like they should |
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| 15:33.13 | fewyn | bethesda wasn't part of ESO |
| 15:33.18 | fewyn | that was all zenimax |
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| 15:47.33 | bluspacecow | raining again |
| 15:47.40 | bluspacecow | its all Fiskerâs fault iâve decided |
| 15:58.22 | karl_w_w | http://www.theage.com.au/nsw/nsw-parliament-officially-labels-eddie-mcguire-a-boofhead-over-adam-goodes-remarks-20150603-ghfnal.html |
| 15:59.01 | Torhal | ~ping |
| 15:59.01 | purl | 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss |
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| 16:00.15 | bluspacecow | ~pong |
| 16:00.15 | purl | ping, or also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_video_game |
| 16:07.34 | Fisker | hey Torhal |
| 16:07.49 | Torhal | hey Fisker |
| 16:07.56 | Torhal | Mad Max Fury Road Ponies? |
| 16:07.57 | Fisker | fallout 4? |
| 16:07.59 | Fisker | nope |
| 16:08.06 | Torhal | Fisker: http://savethewailes.tumblr.com/post/120186445031/mad-max-fury-road-ponies-because-i-am-a-monster |
| 16:08.17 | Torhal | Fallout 4 confirmed. |
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| 16:10.28 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.56 | Torhal | administers a paralytic to bluspacecow's fingers. |
| 16:11.07 | Iriel | fallout4.com |
| 16:11.11 | bluspacecow | *thumbs the keyboard with his nose* |
| 16:11.12 | Iriel | and really, thatâs âoldâ news 8-) |
| 16:13.30 | karl_w_w | alright alright, let's not have a falling out |
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| 16:41.02 | Unkle | station! |
| 16:41.29 | Iriel | Unkle: airport! |
| 16:41.58 | Unkle | Again? |
| 16:42.19 | Iriel | Had a recent near-plane experience? |
| 16:42.26 | Unkle | Also, a) you're online early on a weekday. |
| 16:42.36 | Unkle | and b) long time! |
| 16:43.19 | Iriel | a) itâs my annual day of whatever I feel like doing |
| 16:43.25 | Iriel | b) indeed, but not /that/ long |
| 16:45.01 | Unkle | We should do lunch/dinner sometime. |
| 16:47.37 | Iriel | Probably - where are you living/working these days? |
| 16:47.49 | Unkle | I live in Pacifica, work in Redwood City |
| 16:49.10 | Fisker | Train Unkle |
| 16:49.12 | Iriel | We keep meaning to visit pacifica again. |
| 16:49.22 | Iriel | Weâd probably have to find somewhere dog friendly for lunch tho |
| 16:50.16 | Unkle | There's a place called Surf Spot in Pacifica which is dog-friendly, has decent food, and isn't that far from the dog-friendly (no leash required) beach. |
| 16:50.27 | Unkle | Fisker: Rocket ship. |
| 16:50.37 | Fisker | Boat |
| 16:50.50 | Iriel | Im not sure I trust Crumpet without a leash in an unbounded space yet, but we do want to get him near some water to see how he feels. |
| 16:51.20 | Iriel | I shall entertain the idea with the wife and see if we canât figure something out |
| 16:52.01 | Unkle | Pacifica State Beach requires a leash, Esplanade does not. Both are excellent beaches. |
| 16:52.22 | Iriel | Sarah used to live in Pacifica so she keeps nagging me about not visiting there enough |
| 16:52.24 | Unkle | *nod* Or we could meet somewhere mid-way in the city. |
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| 17:15.10 | VIad | tj combo |
| 17:16.05 | Iriel | You referring to the new irritation in HotS? |
| 17:17.07 | Iriel | Or some kind of booze/drugs combo you tried down south? |
| 17:20.28 | Unkle | ... Tijuana Mexico? |
| 17:35.36 | zenzelezz | http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/enlightened/8795 - perhaps it's not so weird that it took decades to go from 0.16 to 0.17 |
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| 17:52.08 | Icicle | Anyone here played the original Harvest Moon? |
| 17:54.41 | Iriel | I think i picked it up second hand, but I only played for a very short time |
| 17:55.13 | Icicle | I'm building a clone of it I suppose you would say |
| 17:55.20 | Icicle | just wondering if there is any interest in playing it :) |
| 17:56.32 | Iriel | I think thatâd depend on what the âhookâ is that makes it fun/interesting/rewarding |
| 17:57.24 | Icicle | What attracted you to the first one? What didnt hook you to it? |
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| 17:59.15 | Iriel | Mostly interest after playing Animal Crossing a bunch, though the novelty of animal crossing wasnât entirely present in HM so I dont think it stuck |
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| 17:59.49 | Icicle | I never played Animal Crossing, what was in it that you felt lacking in HM? |
| 18:02.18 | Iriel | Well, AC was (a) nintendo cute and (b) had this (at the time) neat and innovative âReal timeâ aspect. |
| 18:02.29 | Iriel | but Iâd read parts of it were inspired by HM, so i checked it out |
| 18:02.50 | Iriel | The problem in a way is that a lot of games these days have a whole planting/growing/rearing mechanic |
| 18:03.08 | Iriel | so thereâd need to be something awesome to DO around that to make it stand out |
| 18:03.36 | Iriel | But obviously thatâs just my opinion, and I suspect Iâm not âentirely normalâ in my tastes |
| 18:03.55 | Icicle | I struggle with that same idea about being 'entirely normal' |
| 18:04.06 | Icicle | and that my ideas would work fiscally |
| 18:04.22 | Dagmar | The indentured servitude thing bugs me |
| 18:04.37 | Icicle | slavery? |
| 18:04.41 | Iriel | There was a quote I saw a while back, it was something like.. |
| 18:05.21 | Iriel | âMaking games because you want to make money is sort of like cooking food because you want to make poopâ |
| 18:06.04 | Icicle | Hmm yah I hear that also |
| 18:06.30 | Icicle | Let me rephrase then, while fiscally its a concern... I just fear I would spend a lot of time building it and no one would play it |
| 18:06.49 | Icicle | which would be mentally crushing |
| 18:07.08 | Iriel | I think rule 1 is make a game that YOU would want to play |
| 18:08.10 | Icicle | ok, I got that :D |
| 18:08.52 | Iriel | And I think rule 2 is use the community for ideas and perspective, but NOT for direction. |
| 18:11.37 | bluspacecow | I |
| 18:11.42 | bluspacecow | iâm in shock |
| 18:11.50 | bluspacecow | iâve never seen Iriel talk this much |
| 18:11.53 | bluspacecow | *hides* |
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| 18:12.08 | Icicle | I'm happy he/she did :D |
| 18:12.19 | Icicle | helped me out a lot, thank you |
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| 18:12.33 | Iriel | Im a he, irielâs a she. 8-) |
| 18:12.55 | Icicle | gotit |
| 18:13.41 | Iriel | (Iriel being a recurring character in many games I play, wow included) |
| 18:13.55 | Iriel | bluspacecow: Usually iâm not here during the day, or iâm paying no attention |
| 18:23.50 | zenzelezz | I'm "Zenzio" in games, because I hate the way "Zenzelezz" looks when capitalized... and most MMOs insist on capitalizing names |
| 18:24.12 | Mihau | Zenzelezz: That is weird. |
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| 18:32.21 | zenzelezz | I am known to exhibit unusual behaviour |
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| 19:08.32 | Iriel | One downside of a dog over a child is that I am unable to teach him how to make me a sandwich |
| 19:09.16 | kullervo | I'm sure you could teach a dog that |
| 19:09.21 | kullervo | it'd just take a considerable amount of effort |
| 19:09.38 | Iriel | Iâm not sure, heâs got no means for carrying beyond his mouth |
| 19:09.46 | Iriel | and food that goes near his mouth inevitably ends up in his stomach |
| 19:10.39 | fewyn | you can build him a little tray he can carry in his mouth |
| 19:10.58 | fewyn | or make a harness for a little trolly thing |
| 19:11.02 | Iriel | Then he could /bring/ me a sandwich, but he still couldnât /make/ one |
| 19:11.13 | Iriel | When heâs bigger iâm considering saddlebags |
| 19:12.16 | Shirik | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kconda5VD8 |
| 19:13.07 | Iriel | Shirik: inspirational! but... |
| 19:13.11 | Iriel | I wouldnât want to eat that |
| 19:14.53 | Unkle | Maybe he can hit the drive through for you? |
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| 19:51.21 | fewyn | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFtam2eAkfo |
| 19:51.23 | fewyn | this is great |
| 20:08.23 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/5SVC6F0.png vertical axis is number of people who have pressed the button |
| 20:09.26 | Primer | That launches the nukular missles? |
| 20:09.45 | Primer | [sic] |
| 20:14.10 | zenzelezz | what button? |
| 20:15.25 | karl_w_w | http://www.reddit.com/r/thebutton/ |
| 20:20.29 | zenzelezz | oh, reddit... count me out |
| 20:21.23 | VIad | nice, steam has a refund feature now |
| 20:28.05 | karl_w_w | wow VIad, welcome to yesterday! |
| 20:29.09 | karl_w_w | also sigh @ the "games journalists" calling it a bad thing |
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| 20:29.18 | VIad | how is it bad? |
| 20:29.21 | karl_w_w | but then one of them is nathan grayson so it shouldn't be that surprising |
| 20:29.56 | VIad | in norway you can, nearly for everything you buy, always 14 days right to return the item without questions |
| 20:29.59 | karl_w_w | because you could buy a short indie game that is less than 2 hours long, finish it, and then get a refund |
| 20:30.00 | VIad | just need to fill out a form and that is it |
| 20:30.39 | Iriel | On the one hand itâs a âlogicalâ argument, on the other, thereâs already an abuse clause |
| 20:30.47 | karl_w_w | though I personally don't know of any games worth paying for that are shorter than 2 hours |
| 20:30.48 | VIad | jupp |
| 20:30.52 | VIad | well |
| 20:30.55 | VIad | you had one game, sec |
| 20:30.59 | Iriel | And having LEGITIMATELY had to deal with steam for a refund once, their old policy was irritating people who spent _real_ money on the platform |
| 20:31.01 | karl_w_w | and that's pretending that valve doesn't have a clause, as Iriel said |
| 20:31.16 | VIad | Evoland |
| 20:31.30 | karl_w_w | the saddest part is journalists should ideally be on the side of the consumer |
| 20:31.37 | VIad | Evoland is basically a 60 min game |
| 20:31.40 | Iriel | If you bought a game that was good and was short, would you actually try and refund it? |
| 20:31.43 | karl_w_w | but there's a lot of them that are just fucking twats |
| 20:31.51 | Iriel | Thatâs what is known as a âdick moveâ IMHO |
| 20:32.11 | Iriel | Of course, I wish theyâd had this rule when Sacred 3 came out |
| 20:33.50 | karl_w_w | this refund policy is great |
| 20:34.11 | karl_w_w | because I am very likely now to buy FFXIII-2 when it next goes on sale |
| 20:34.24 | karl_w_w | whereas before I was quite unlikely to |
| 20:35.11 | karl_w_w | ooh summer sale is rumoured to be next week |
| 20:36.08 | zenzelezz | what makes you more likely to buy it now? |
| 20:37.57 | karl_w_w | the fact that if it doesn't work I can give it back :P |
| 20:38.16 | zenzelezz | "doesn't work" as in what, won't run? |
| 20:38.18 | karl_w_w | the ffxiii ports are not the most well optimised in the world |
| 20:39.16 | zenzelezz | still sounds better to wait for other people to try it if that's your concern |
| 20:39.28 | zenzelezz | it may be a good return policy, but it's not without limits |
| 20:40.05 | karl_w_w | it doesn't run the same from one system to the next |
| 20:40.11 | karl_w_w | the only way to know is to try |
| 20:41.00 | karl_w_w | there are people running it fine on 3 year old GPUs and others struggling to maintain 30fps on things like gtx 970s |
| 20:42.10 | zenzelezz | just keep your eye on your watch so you don't exceed the limits while testing |
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| 20:44.45 | WrathTECH | How often does Curse.com update how many downloads your addon has? |
| 20:49.11 | tz_ | whenever they happen afaik |
| 20:49.45 | WrathTECH | 52 Downloads on Curseforge, and Curse says 0. |
| 20:52.08 | tz_ | oh, right, I didn't make the distinction between the two |
| 20:52.11 | tz_ | not sure tbh |
| 20:53.10 | WrathTECH | No problem. I'm hoping it's just one of those, once every 24 hours deals and that my addon page didn't get bugged, again. |
| 21:02.35 | tz_ | OCD kicking in, eh? ;) |
| 21:04.21 | zenzelezz | I know it's bad, but I see this headline saying "'Game of Thrones' artist killed by lion", and my first thought was "A Lannister always pays his debts" |
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| 23:56.12 | foxlit | I wish font styles split family/size apart from things like color/shadow. |
| 23:58.35 | Amarande | foxlit: size is usually dynamic so I'm not sure how that would really work |
| 23:58.42 | Amarande | we're probably just lucky it recognises things like colour/shadow properly though |
| 23:58.53 | Amarande | given that generally you need a whole separate font file for each |
| 23:59.11 | Amarande | which is why that $29 price for a typical adobe font rapidly becomes bizarro world :| |
