| 00:14.46 | Primer | I was watching TV yesterday when I saw this commercial and busted out laughing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnXb_AlGFzE |
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| 00:18.56 | pompy | gigs all around |
| 00:23.40 | Amarande | you know what boggles |
| 00:23.51 | Amarande | according to Mass Market Retailer magazine, apparently CVS does more sales now than Amazon |
| 00:24.01 | Amarande | and makes way more profits (Amazon posted a loss again this quarter, I believe :() |
| 00:24.56 | Amarande | I guess this is already how it begins to end ... we mostly will have to put more and more of our money towards care in some way shape or form, so even juggernauts of creature comfort goods are going to start withering? :( |
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| 00:45.17 | Primer | Are you talking about their online store division? |
| 00:45.24 | Primer | Because I'm sure AWS is making money hand over fist |
| 00:45.44 | Amarande | Primer: I'm guessing MMR is focusing specifically on the sale of mass market merchandise, yeah |
| 00:46.24 | Amarande | but yeah, the fact that even Amazon isn't making that much more money than pharmacies (Walgreens Boots Alliance is selling almost as much too) ... is kind of sad :( |
| 00:46.53 | Amarande | it basically says that yeah, mostly in the future we will spend our money on toiletries, medicine, and doctors, and geekery itself may start to die :( |
| 00:47.43 | Primer | I can't remember the last thing I bought from amazon |
| 00:48.05 | Primer | or really buying much from them...I recall maintaining a wish list there so people could buy me stuff, back when no one else had wishlists |
| 00:48.26 | Mr_Rabies | oops |
| 00:48.34 | Mr_Rabies | i accidentally logged into wow twice at the same time |
| 00:48.34 | Mr_Rabies | @_@ |
| 00:48.57 | Mr_Rabies | i guess i clicked play a few too many times |
| 00:49.39 | Torhal | It's fine, Mr_Rabies - you just REALLY wanted to play. |
| 00:49.40 | Torhal | :D |
| 00:50.57 | Semlar | logs into torhal |
| 00:51.41 | Torhal | calls the cops. |
| 00:52.33 | Semlar | calls saul |
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| 01:11.27 | Amarande | heh, wonder how long before we'll really be jacking into each others' brains |
| 01:11.31 | Amarande | it's kind of scary |
| 01:12.45 | Amarande | especially since the rudiments of it are already starting to get laid down, back when Google Glass was a thing, there was a third party working on some kind of brain-actuated control app for it |
| 01:13.17 | Amarande | Google, interestingly, didn't seem very interested in the idea |
| 01:13.33 | Amarande | I suspect they're quite aware of the implications, especially given their existing bindings to government :| |
| 01:14.12 | Shirik | they weren't interested in it because they already know everything about you |
| 01:14.57 | Amarande | Shirik: I suspect they're also quite aware that they'd be forced by the NSA to record people's brainwaves for spying then |
| 01:15.04 | Amarande | ... which would literally make us worse off than slaves |
| 01:17.00 | Primer | People who have a pessimistic outlook on everything are usually unhappy |
| 01:17.29 | Primer | Perhaps you should be more of an optimist and think about the great things such technology will bring |
| 01:18.17 | Amarande | Well, I suppose it would be great for raid communication :) |
| 01:19.15 | Mr_Rabies | well, google owns boston dynamics now, so they probably already have a first-party solution |
| 01:19.25 | Mr_Rabies | they're making military robots for darpa now, soo |
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| 05:52.05 | pompy | kd3: http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/widespread-comcast-outage-reported-in-puget-sound/ |
| 05:52.22 | pompy | (sf area) |
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| 06:05.29 | kd3 | eh, dns was slow earlier, but it seems to be ok right now |
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| 06:07.40 | Dagmar | I woulnd't notice because I haven't used their DNS servers in years |
| 06:09.09 | Dagmar | ...and if they don't get the hint about not intercepting HTTP traffic with fucking *200* codes, I might not be using them for the time it takes to get AT&T to run me a connecction that doesn't |
| 06:09.35 | bluspacecow | u sound mad Dagmar |
| 06:10.01 | Dagmar | I despise stupidity. I especially despise stupidity in network management. |
| 06:10.51 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: So... Comcast has a 300Gb/month quota in Nashville |
| 06:10.51 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 06:11.19 | Dagmar | They ever so helpfully decide to inform you when you reach 90% of that, by intercepting all your HTTP traffic and displaying a bloody gnomic page telling you about "AUPM" and telling you to contact customer support. |
| 06:11.29 | Dagmar | There are 5xx codes for this. |
| 06:11.35 | bluspacecow | wonderful |
| 06:11.44 | Dagmar | Hell, they could _make up_ their own 5xx code and it would be more correct |
| 06:12.22 | Dagmar | But no... Becuase they're fucking idiots who can't be bothered to read an RFC, they think it's okay to simply return their bizarre little warning page with a 200 response code |
| 06:12.58 | Dagmar | So for one thing, I immediately had a loud klaxon coming from a computer in my front room whose only job is to warn me if a particular site has been tampered with |
| 06:13.31 | Dagmar | Nevemind that this happened with about 36 hours to go in the month |
| 06:15.05 | Dagmar | To do that wrong on an _enterprise level_ is just inexcuseably stupid. |
| 06:15.07 | bluspacecow | lolwat |
| 06:16.12 | Dagmar | If you're operating on equipment with that much impact, you should know your RFCs and standards back to front |
| 06:16.43 | Dagmar | The people responsible should not be _hiring_ people for that role who do not know these things well |
| 06:17.15 | Dagmar | All HTTP is _not_ fuckin' "web sites". |
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| 06:20.43 | Dagmar | This isn't the first time they've done something this broken |
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| 06:21.45 | Dagmar | Their last implementation (I found when I was installing TESO and it went inssane) was to inject some CSS into a page so that a new layer would pop up over the page with their notification in it. |
| 06:22.40 | Dagmar | It was--I'm not sure there's a word for this level of insanity--basically a fuckup squared because even the javascript used made mistakes |
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| 09:11.58 | jleclanche | Dagmar: if I ping google.com and I get a reply from 213-155-151-180.customer.teliacarrier.com (213.155.151.180), wtf is going on? |
| 09:12.11 | jleclanche | its the second time i see this. last time was with 3 on mobile internet, now its on my home isp |
| 09:12.13 | jleclanche | and this is new |
| 09:19.14 | Semlar | looks like it's owned by akamai, which is a CDN for speeding up the delivery of content and reducing loads |
| 09:24.03 | bluspacecow | try host google.com |
| 09:40.59 | Gnarfoz | that IP belongs to Google |
| 09:41.09 | Gnarfoz | so... yeah, you're fine? |
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| 09:55.03 | Kalroth | i get that a lot, jleclanche |
| 09:55.15 | Kalroth | for youtube and google sites |
| 09:55.20 | jleclanche | hmm |
| 09:59.00 | Gnarfoz | Google servers, coming to your neighbourhood soon! |
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| 11:04.53 | VIad | Mihau: this is why I always do === to make sure the comparison type checked too, since == will accept stuff like "1" == true |
| 11:05.11 | Kalroth | gotta love truthy and falsey |
| 11:06.34 | VIad | issue is when using == you think it is right but only if you are aware of the pitfalls |
| 11:07.06 | Maldivia | it's php... you already know it's wrong |
| 11:07.16 | VIad | for instance parsing form fields with == might create unexpected outcomes, also I'd use filter_var to read _GET or _POST if it is that vital |
| 11:07.49 | Kalroth | Maldivia, javascript |
| 11:07.52 | VIad | php has its uses |
| 11:08.21 | VIad | I often use it to draft ideas or test stuff |
| 11:08.59 | Gnarfoz | php has its uses: to serve as an example of how not to do it |
| 11:09.08 | VIad | but maybe it is time for a PHP generation 2 where we say screw all legacy support and make a new syntax, and make it better |
| 11:09.22 | Kalroth | so make it not PHP |
| 11:09.24 | VIad | atm I feel legacy support makes php weak |
| 11:09.29 | Kalroth | that's a great idea |
| 11:09.53 | Kalroth | but really, there are a lot of good alternatives to PHP these days |
| 11:10.12 | Kalroth | only advantage PHP got is LAMP/WAMP is the standard setup |
| 11:10.40 | VIad | I like how quick you can code with php without a care to types or memory or permissions, though it is its downfall if you arent aware of the indirect issues |
| 11:13.07 | VIad | for example if you code something large, use classes and namespaces to not litter global scope |
| 11:16.01 | VIad | besides don't be mad at php, be mad at poor implementations using php, if anything |
| 11:17.07 | VIad | you can code horribly in other languages too like c, memory leaks is pretty common among new coders. doesnt mean c sucks balls |
| 11:22.16 | bluspacecow | http://imgur.com/gallery/L9nUsc6 |
| 11:23.54 | VIad | wish dns a record had a waterfall system where you could provide ports if first is unavailable :( |
| 11:24.58 | nevcairiel | ..what |
| 11:25.05 | nevcairiel | how does dns relate to ports at all |
| 11:26.02 | VIad | it doesn't |
| 11:27.14 | VIad | in situations where you only have control over dns you start to wish for things :p |
| 11:27.35 | Gnarfoz | maybe you shouldn't be doing those things if you have limited control |
| 11:27.38 | VIad | srv records would work but they arent really used for websites |
| 11:28.01 | VIad | would you be happy if your ISP blocked your inbound port 80? |
| 11:28.02 | Gnarfoz | (and typically, you'd round-robin the A entries, keeping the port the same) |
| 11:28.21 | Gnarfoz | happy? no, but I think you probably agreed to that in their ToS |
| 11:28.44 | VIad | they block port 80 because their huawei routers have open router admin interface on port 80 |
| 11:28.54 | Gnarfoz | (seeing that the common case where that happens is residential/home internet) |
| 11:28.56 | VIad | the router doesn't care if the origin comes outside the network |
| 11:29.24 | nevcairiel | so switch ISP |
| 11:29.27 | VIad | can't |
| 11:29.36 | nevcairiel | sure you can, its a free country |
| 11:29.52 | VIad | the corporation had a bid round and the ISP that won delivered good speeds at resonable prices |
| 11:29.59 | Gnarfoz | if not, order some freedom from 1600 Penn! |
| 11:30.01 | VIad | so now they have all tv and internet |
| 11:30.23 | VIad | there is only one ISP to choose from as the old one closed shop this month |
| 11:30.55 | VIad | I just think its lame they gave us routers with faulty security and fixed the issue by blocking all inbound port 80 instead |
| 11:31.18 | Gnarfoz | see above, you keep on not reacting to certain points made ;) |
| 11:31.38 | Gnarfoz | orders some freedom fries from 1600 Penn. Ave. *noms* |
| 11:31.48 | VIad | I dont get the joke |
| 11:32.00 | bluspacecow | freedom fries ? |
| 11:32.01 | VIad | my norwegian blood limits my range of giggles |
| 11:32.04 | Gnarfoz | the most recent one: I'm going for lunch |
| 11:32.06 | bluspacecow | ~wiki freedom fries |
| 11:32.12 | Maldivia | mmm... freedom fries |
| 11:32.32 | Gnarfoz | the previous one: if you only have ONE ISP to choose from, get the US (1600 Pennsylvania Avenue == The White House) to bring some "freedom" to .no! |
| 11:32.44 | VIad | :p |
| 11:32.50 | VIad | I wouldn't care |
| 11:32.52 | bluspacecow | theyâre just french fries tho |
| 11:32.54 | VIad | if I had my port 80 open |
| 11:33.08 | VIad | I welcome socialism as long they dont block my ports |
| 11:33.10 | Gnarfoz | (that's the only two I made! the other were "wtf, is this a business connection?" "what do the ToS / your contract say? are you allowed to host web servers?") |
| 11:33.17 | VIad | yes |
| 11:33.20 | VIad | you are allowed |
| 11:33.30 | VIad | and they state they can open port 80 on request |
| 11:33.48 | VIad | but they told me that my installation is "special" |
| 11:33.59 | VIad | because they installed over 500 routers in all the homes |
| 11:34.05 | VIad | and blocked port 80 centrally |
| 11:34.09 | VIad | for everyone :p |
| 11:34.39 | Gnarfoz | what the hell does "special" mean |
| 11:34.45 | Gnarfoz | and why is that the end of it |
| 11:34.57 | Gnarfoz | my food is getting cold |
| 11:35.00 | VIad | it means they blocked port 80 in the central server that serves the whole coorporation |
| 11:35.06 | Gnarfoz | (it should be, it's still in the store) |
| 11:35.16 | bluspacecow | *blasts Gnarfoz with heat vision* |
| 11:35.19 | Gnarfoz | so it IS a business connection? |
| 11:35.26 | VIad | as security measure to fix the issue where you can access everyrouter at port 80 as administrator |
| 11:35.34 | VIad | what? |
| 11:35.36 | VIad | no this is home |
| 11:35.38 | Gnarfoz | why do you keep talking about a corporation, then |
| 11:35.44 | VIad | boretslag |
| 11:36.26 | VIad | housing cooperative |
| 11:36.50 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 11:37.13 | Gnarfoz | "co-op" |
| 11:38.16 | Gnarfoz | well, if that means you don't get to choose at all (don't you have phone lines, too? no DSL?), then I'd not accept "you're special!" as an answer ^^ |
| 11:38.26 | VIad | no |
| 11:38.29 | VIad | nono |
| 11:38.31 | VIad | in norway its normal |
| 11:38.43 | Gnarfoz | what is? |
| 11:38.44 | VIad | unless you live in a house |
| 11:38.51 | VIad | well even houses have housing cooperative |
| 11:39.05 | VIad | basically you are never on your own to pick what ever you like |
| 11:39.11 | nevcairiel | norweirdos |
| 11:39.13 | Gnarfoz | that sounds terrible |
| 11:39.22 | VIad | housing cooperatives help in certain ways |
| 11:39.30 | VIad | for example renovations are done across all appartments |
| 11:39.33 | Gnarfoz | I obviously mean the ISP aspect of it |
| 11:39.44 | VIad | every 20 years baths are renovated at cheaper because we are so many |
| 11:39.48 | VIad | well they had a bidding round |
| 11:39.48 | nevcairiel | we have stuff like that as well for apartments |
| 11:39.58 | nevcairiel | but every apartment gets to chose their own phone and internet contract |
| 11:39.58 | nevcairiel | =p |
| 11:40.11 | VIad | various ISP had bidding rounds |
| 11:40.17 | VIad | where they presented a speed and price |
| 11:40.20 | VIad | and my old ISP lost |
| 11:40.40 | Gnarfoz | sure, co-ops are nice, but I don't think they prevent us from picking DSL as we want; cable providers have regional monopolies in Germany anyway |
| 11:41.09 | VIad | the old cables closed |
| 11:41.14 | Gnarfoz | I wonder if none of them have discovered that they are in the ideal position to bring fiber to their customers/members, though |
| 11:41.18 | VIad | Get has the only working cables now :p |
| 11:41.21 | Kalroth | co-ops own the houses, so they can prevent you from picking non-standard installations - but DSL would be fine, seeing as copper would be a requirement |
| 11:41.38 | VIad | Get is my ISP |
| 11:42.14 | Kalroth | the tenants own a share in the co-op, but the co-op itself is a separate entity, so it can actually decide what people can and cant do |
| 11:42.15 | VIad | if I want someone else they will have to install cables just for me and I doubt they can as they would have to modify the installation that Get did in the house and in the building |
| 11:42.37 | VIad | we have meetings we attend to and vote on stuffwe care about |
| 11:42.44 | VIad | but blocked port 80 was never an issue |
| 11:42.53 | VIad | so I was like "then this is awesome" |
| 11:42.57 | Kalroth | catering to the majority is often a bad idea |
| 11:43.04 | VIad | but now when they told me "oh sorry we cant open it for you" it made me :( |
| 11:43.19 | VIad | it's just it said on the page "we open port 80 on request" |
| 11:43.28 | VIad | but when I get a "no sorry" in return it makes me sad |
| 11:43.32 | VIad | but I am a minority :P |
| 11:43.41 | VIad | probably only one that cares about this among the other 500 |
| 11:44.21 | Kalroth | yeah, it often ends at "oh, it costs money??? then we can't do it" |
| 11:44.40 | Kalroth | which is why co-ops suck |
| 11:44.50 | VIad | don't blame the coop |
| 11:45.04 | VIad | blame the ISP for taking the easy way out when fixing their security issue |
| 11:45.56 | VIad | routers usually use port 80 for admin interface, but these routers will answer inbound requests made from outside the intranet - meaning you can open the IP:80 in your browser and see the standard login for the router |
| 11:46.23 | VIad | so they basically blocked inbound 80 communication in the central instead since it affects everyone in the coop |
| 11:46.27 | Kalroth | http://techreport.com/news/28377/nanotube-infused-nram-promises-dram-speeds-with-unlimited-endurance sweet, can't wait until this is realized |
| 11:47.32 | VIad | anyway, I have a DNS to have a name for my IP but I am a bit limited when port 80 is blocked :( |
| 11:48.11 | VIad | I survive, but I would appreciate to have all my ports open, and if not then I probably must find a proxy IP that I can rent, that basically is to take port 80 requests and relay them to my port 8080 or what ever |
| 11:48.36 | nevcairiel | Kalroth: there is a lot of interesting tech coming in the next couple years |
| 11:49.00 | VIad | nevcairiel: thats what they said about flying cars and hoverboards in the 1980s too |
| 11:49.07 | VIad | instead we got the iphone |
| 11:49.11 | Kalroth | no, he said interesting tech |
| 11:49.22 | nevcairiel | VIad: i could give you a ipv6 address with a port 80 proxy, but v4 addresses are expensive these days :P |
| 11:49.33 | VIad | hmm |
| 11:49.33 | Kalroth | flying cars and hoverboards aren't interesting |
| 11:49.47 | VIad | weirdly enough my old ISP had IP6 support |
| 11:49.52 | VIad | but Get doesn't it seems :P |
| 11:50.06 | Kalroth | you Get what you pay for |
| 11:50.07 | Kalroth | HEHE |
| 11:50.13 | VIad | XOXOXO |
| 11:50.18 | VIad | btw xoxo is "haha" in greek |
| 11:50.23 | VIad | not the hugs and kisses americans use |
| 11:50.39 | VIad | I was confused until phanx explained it to me |
| 11:51.06 | Kalroth | xaxaxa |
| 11:52.51 | VIad | btw I sent a reply to my ISP about the port thing |
| 11:52.53 | VIad | no response |
| 11:53.05 | VIad | really crap customer support when you ignore your customers inquiry |
| 11:53.47 | VIad | basically said I am willing to pay to resolve the port 80 issue and wondered what they could do to help on their end |
| 11:53.56 | Gnarfoz | my protip: use 443 |
| 11:54.06 | Gnarfoz | non-https is so last century anyway |
| 11:54.41 | VIad | :p |
| 11:54.47 | bluspacecow | *butteflys past Gnarfoz* |
| 11:54.53 | Gnarfoz | why not? should solve your issue :D |
| 11:55.10 | VIad | better than nothing |
| 11:55.13 | VIad | though not fully solved |
| 11:55.14 | Gnarfoz | and you basically get https-only for free :P |
| 11:55.23 | Gnarfoz | since http just won't work :( |
| 11:58.10 | VIad | fun thing |
| 11:58.24 | VIad | the reply I got said "Instead you can use port 8080 that will work just like port 80" |
| 11:58.31 | VIad | "just" like :D |
| 11:58.51 | bluspacecow | and woooosh is the sound you hear as the point your trying to make to them goes over their heads |
| 12:00.07 | VIad | it is customer support first line |
| 12:00.14 | Kalroth | VIad, http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?showtopic=1652565 |
| 12:00.17 | VIad | probably using a lookup tool to copy paste responses |
| 12:00.25 | Kalroth | "kjører selv min web server og exchange mail server hjemme med linjer i fra get så port 80 er ikke stengt kun port 25" |
| 12:01.14 | VIad | that is fine |
| 12:01.24 | VIad | but their support told me they block port 80 for everyone in my installation |
| 12:01.38 | VIad | called it a "special" case |
| 12:01.55 | Kalroth | well you are a special case |
| 12:02.38 | VIad | :D |
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| 12:08.58 | VIad | writing a new mail, they wrote they will be doing maintenance work |
| 12:09.13 | VIad | so writing up a mail to ask if they can fix my issue at the same time :P |
| 12:09.16 | VIad | I have to be persistent |
| 12:15.51 | VIad | I wish we could detect if a user is browsing a site via remote desktop |
| 12:16.13 | VIad | practical reasoning: I open a page with tons of animations - animations means lag and horrible experience for remote desktop users. |
| 12:16.35 | VIad | would be nice if the html had a class like "remote-view" or what ever, some javascript to help identify this |
| 12:16.57 | VIad | opened a site that had a scrolling background image |
| 12:17.11 | VIad | had to click close and wait 5 min for the animations to render and the lag to catch up |
| 12:18.11 | VIad | the OS already alerts you if you try to run something that won't work over remote desktop, that is nice. would be nice if that extends to the web too |
| 12:19.54 | VIad | btw tips for those using windows and linux dualboot |
| 12:20.03 | VIad | don't change windows time offset registry entry |
| 12:20.29 | VIad | either windows or unix stored the time without timezone |
| 12:20.36 | nevcairiel | linux usually does that |
| 12:20.37 | VIad | making the time shift when you boot the other OS |
| 12:20.49 | VIad | if you change the registry on windows |
| 12:20.54 | VIad | you get unexpected issues |
| 12:20.55 | nevcairiel | you can set linux to store local time though, which is the recommended way to deal with that |
| 12:21.00 | VIad | yes |
| 12:21.11 | VIad | if you change windows registry you will have issues with logging on |
| 12:21.18 | VIad | for example I can't login with visual studio |
| 12:21.25 | VIad | because it keeps saying the session expired |
| 12:21.50 | VIad | because when some comparisons occur "oh this is older than one hour" and I get expired error :D |
| 12:22.02 | VIad | was amusing to solve this issue |
| 12:26.06 | VIad | imo timezones are an issue |
| 12:26.18 | VIad | you never know if a timestamp is inclusive or not of the timezone |
| 12:26.23 | VIad | like no common ground? :( |
| 12:26.48 | VIad | imo all timezone related things should always be stored CET (GMT0, UTC0, no timezone) |
| 12:27.03 | VIad | and then just do the math when you wish to display it properly on the client side |
| 12:35.11 | jleclanche | VIad: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_guide#Hardware_clock |
| 12:35.34 | VIad | nice |
| 12:35.38 | jleclanche | and sane timezones are always utc |
| 12:35.40 | jleclanche | er |
| 12:35.41 | jleclanche | timestamps* |
| 12:35.52 | VIad | but if you follow the advice you get issues on windows :P |
| 12:35.53 | jleclanche | anything else is for display |
| 12:36.02 | VIad | so far experienced login issues in visual studio |
| 12:36.12 | jleclanche | VIad: there's a registry hack for it, its linked in there |
| 12:36.18 | jleclanche | or hm |
| 12:36.19 | jleclanche | used to be.... |
| 12:36.22 | VIad | I am saying |
| 12:36.26 | jleclanche | anyway off to bed. |
| 12:36.28 | VIad | if you change how windows stores time |
| 12:36.35 | VIad | you will bug some programs |
| 12:37.09 | VIad | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Time#UTC_in_Windows |
| 12:38.36 | VIad | if you do that you will get some issues on windows :P |
| 12:40.16 | VIad | my issue was http://sharepoint.stackexchange.com/questions/95253/visual-studio-2013-cant-login-the-popup-frame-bugs-out |
| 12:40.27 | VIad | seems totally out of context but oddly it's not :p |
| 12:45.32 | VIad | no clue why windows don't use utc too |
| 12:45.52 | VIad | using local as default, ugh, not exactly making it easier for universal programs |
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| 14:33.10 | Gnarfoz | I guess it's time to buy some more keycaps https://www.massdrop.com/buy/galaxy-keycaps-set?mode=guest_open |
| 14:36.50 | nevcairiel | didnt you link those months ago already |
| 14:36.59 | Gnarfoz | 2nd run! |
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| 15:20.00 | bluspacecow | Fisker |
| 15:20.07 | bluspacecow | wat do? |
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| 15:23.18 | bluspacecow | http://fallout.bethsoft.com |
| 15:23.23 | bluspacecow | y countdown ? |
| 15:27.33 | Mihau | Oh, it does not work in Firefox. I guess they did not test that. |
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| 15:29.06 | VIad | regarding keyboards, I bought, and are really happy, http://www.roccat.org/us-en/Products/Gaming-Keyboards/Ryos-Series/Ryos-MK-Pro/ |
| 15:29.25 | VIad | but cleaning is a mess... so hard to take off the keys, haven't done it, don't got the utility to do it either, and can't find how to buy it! |
| 15:37.14 | Torhal | Mihau: Didn't work in Chrome either until I disabled uBlock. |
| 15:39.45 | fewyn | http://fallout.bethsoft.com/ i hope the pc port of the new fallout isn't as crashtastic as previous installments |
| 15:45.44 | VIad | worst asm port of fallout ever |
| 15:46.34 | bluspacecow | u mad vlad ? |
| 15:51.02 | VIad | :D |
| 15:52.16 | VIad | assuming fallout 5 announcement |
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| 16:10.14 | VIad | is it "eether" or "either" as in "either way" ? |
| 16:11.09 | nevcairiel | you are lacking context |
| 16:11.53 | nevcairiel | but both pronounciations are technically correct |
| 16:13.40 | VIad | I mean I heard people say "idar" and "eider" is it just pronounciation flavoring like american/british? |
| 16:13.52 | nevcairiel | definitely not with a d |
| 16:14.16 | VIad | not sure how to write the sounds of the word :P |
| 16:14.34 | VIad | hoping for you to just get it :( |
| 16:15.03 | nevcairiel | i already told you that both are correct |
| 16:15.07 | VIad | oh |
| 16:15.17 | VIad | what is "most correct"? |
| 16:15.28 | VIad | in your oppinion |
| 16:15.30 | phelps | the eether |
| 16:15.32 | phelps | either way |
| 16:15.56 | phelps | eether is a place, a void |
| 16:16.38 | phelps | eye ther, i ther |
| 16:16.45 | phelps | e ther |
| 16:17.26 | phelps | eye ther, at least in southern murica' |
| 16:18.14 | nevcairiel | In the UK the first pronunciation (=eye ther) is generally used more in southern England, while the latter (eether) is more usual in northern England. However, this is an oversimplification, and the pronunciation used varies by individual speaker and sometimes by situation. The second pronunciation is the most common in the United States. |
| 16:18.56 | phelps | i guess the south likes eyether no matter where you're at |
| 16:28.01 | Dagmar | There's a lot of the south that's functionally illiterate |
| 16:28.16 | Dagmar | Take everything they do with some circumspection |
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| 16:30.51 | pompy | VIad: is that keyboard in retail stores? says they only ship to Germany and Austria |
| 16:31.04 | VIad | bought it from a webshop in norway |
| 16:31.14 | VIad | legitimate site |
| 16:31.39 | VIad | https://www.komplett.no/roccat-ryos-mk-pro-mx-black/805219 |
| 16:31.55 | VIad | probably a EU trade thing |
| 16:32.45 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1433262760.png :D |
| 16:32.48 | VIad | since beta |
| 16:32.53 | VIad | tae |
| 16:34.33 | VIad | off topic but paladin tank is sooo weak when solo - blood DK just annihilated everything to level 100 |
| 16:37.54 | phelps | yeah but I can solo heroics on my pally at 100, so at least its on par with blood AT 100 |
| 16:38.07 | phelps | just slower.. |
| 16:38.44 | phelps | 40khps self healing, is pretty fun |
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| 16:59.40 | Unkle | station |
| 16:59.47 | Fisker | train Unkle |
| 17:09.56 | fewyn | america fuck yeah! blatter resigned |
| 17:10.21 | Unkle | Get re-elected, resign? |
| 17:10.40 | fewyn | because the doj is going to crush him |
| 17:11.30 | Unkle | With the number of people who got arrested/extradited, someone is SURE to turn State's Evidence in hopes of a deal. |
| 17:12.17 | Unkle | Which means likely he'll be charged, because there's no believable way that he wasn't involved. |
| 17:13.28 | Gnarfoz | "DoJ" ain't gonna do shit: he lives in .ch :P |
| 17:14.35 | Gnarfoz | why do I even care? it's football =D |
| 17:16.11 | Amarande | switzerland apparently does extradite people to the usa, it sounds like |
| 17:16.28 | Amarande | from what I've heard, the official charge was tax evasion, since 'being a slimeball' isn't a crime, unfortunately |
| 17:16.50 | Amarande | we'd probably be able to actually put most of the executive 1% into prison if it were, LOL |
| 17:18.02 | karl_w_w | what's the name of that thing that came out |
| 17:18.11 | karl_w_w | documentary thing i think it was |
| 17:18.14 | karl_w_w | last week or something |
| 17:18.18 | karl_w_w | is very specific |
| 17:20.12 | karl_w_w | ah, not documentary, kung fury |
| 17:21.36 | pompy | dafuq http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/02/gamestop-buying-thinkgeek/ |
| 17:22.41 | Gnarfoz | indeed, wtf :D |
| 17:22.59 | Amarande | yugh, I guess there goes any of the more controversial stuff, like some of the "spy" gadgetry :| |
| 17:23.09 | Amarande | not to mention the caffeine section'll probably get axed, right? :( |
| 17:23.51 | Amarande | between concerned parents since gamestop has family oriented clientele, not to mention I think they sell Monster and I'm not sure what kind of agreements they have with Coca-Cola regarding that |
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| 17:34.00 | Dagmar | Amarande: You can buy the spy gadgets cheaper elsewhere on the 'net |
| 17:35.23 | pompy | http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/every-united-airlines-flight-was-grounded-this-morning-in-the-us/ar-BBkAz2U |
| 17:40.16 | nevcairiel | a company buying another doesn't necessarily mean that their consumer-facing aspects will merge entirely |
| 17:40.37 | nevcairiel | GameStop could start carrying a bunch of the gaming related gadgets, but ThinkGeek may still exist as it does today |
| 17:42.50 | Amarande | nevcairiel: yeah, I'd probably worry more about the classic caffeine section |
| 17:43.00 | Amarande | since GameStop might very well have an exclusive agreement with Coca-Cola in that regard |
| 17:43.54 | Amarande | (assuming monster is a coca-cola native product ... I'm not 100% sure if it is or if it's one of those things that's distributed by coke in some areas and pepsi in others, like dr pepper) |
| 17:46.37 | nevcairiel | monster is not a coca-cola product, they just use coca-cola as distributor |
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| 18:27.15 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.06 | nevcairiel | not me |
| 18:28.39 | nevcairiel | ever since MP got smarter about redundant followers, the list is always so extremely long anyway, and all the important missions are done by like 5 people |
| 18:29.01 | nevcairiel | garona is way OP |
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| 18:32.17 | Amarande | nevcairiel: heh, that's another comment people are making about things like flying |
| 18:32.22 | Amarande | that ... it kind of doesn't matter in draenor, LOL |
| 18:32.36 | Amarande | because we spend 99% of the time in the damn garrison having other characters do our work for us anyway ... heh |
| 18:33.06 | Amarande | and given the ghost-townness of even orgrimmar, I sadly suspect they're right |
| 18:33.58 | Amarande | hah Undercity is actually more active, mainly I suspect because one it is CRZ'd and because it's a much more convenient setup for leveling characters, and now that garrisons took away the point of spending much time in Org at high levels ... yeah |
| 18:46.42 | VIad | finished the witcher 3 |
| 18:46.44 | VIad | awesome ^^ |
| 18:47.03 | VIad | only about 7% people have finished the game so far |
| 18:47.11 | VIad | according to steam stats |
| 18:47.23 | nevcairiel | doesn't have it through steam |
| 18:47.29 | VIad | ah right |
| 18:47.32 | VIad | consoles exist :D |
| 18:47.38 | nevcairiel | still on PC |
| 18:47.42 | VIad | oh |
| 18:47.49 | VIad | gog exists |
| 18:48.00 | nevcairiel | i got it free from nvidia, which worked through gog, yeah |
| 18:48.08 | VIad | gog lets you redeem it on steam too if you like |
| 18:48.11 | VIad | gog are awesome like that |
| 18:48.18 | VIad | don't limit you on platform like origin |
| 18:48.25 | nevcairiel | i didnt see an option for that |
| 18:48.30 | VIad | you should be able to |
| 18:49.34 | nevcairiel | i dont think they do |
| 18:49.49 | VIad | someone told me they bought on gog and later installed it on steam |
| 18:51.16 | Ackis | installs Torhal on steam |
| 18:51.26 | Ackis | can you actually finish Witcher 3? |
| 18:51.33 | Ackis | I thought it just keeps going and going and going |
| 18:51.42 | VIad | you finish the main story |
| 18:51.43 | Ackis | I have 3 days played and I haven't even finished the bloody baron line |
| 18:51.46 | VIad | and get put back into the open world |
| 18:51.53 | VIad | and new game + e.g. |
| 18:51.59 | VIad | so in a sense sure, it's endless! :p |
| 18:52.16 | VIad | it has a lot of stuff to do indeed |
| 18:52.17 | Ackis | you get like 4 xp for banging a high class hooker btw |
| 18:52.21 | VIad | :D |
| 18:52.23 | Ackis | 2 xp for the trashy ones |
| 18:52.25 | VIad | bank all the hookers |
| 18:52.27 | VIad | bang* |
| 18:53.00 | nevcairiel | they probably charge you money though |
| 18:53.07 | VIad | yeah |
| 18:53.14 | Ackis | 40 for the expensive, 20 for the trashy |
| 18:53.18 | Ackis | Torhal does it for free though |
| 18:53.19 | VIad | kill all the monsters, get all the gold rewards, then bang all the hookers |
| 18:53.32 | Ackis | I think I have 8k "gold" right now |
| 18:54.50 | VIad | 800 xp right there |
| 18:54.57 | VIad | maybe a level up or two :P |
| 18:55.02 | Ackis | half a level |
| 18:55.05 | Ackis | :( |
| 18:55.07 | Ackis | already mathed it |
| 18:55.18 | VIad | does the xp go like, 100, then 200, then 300, e.g.? |
| 18:55.31 | VIad | n+100 each level up |
| 18:56.30 | Ackis | last couple of levels have been 1500 each for me |
| 18:56.38 | VIad | aha |
| 18:56.40 | Ackis | not that I pay too much attention |
| 18:57.11 | VIad | last I checked I needed 2000 for level up |
| 18:57.19 | VIad | I am level 35 or something |
| 18:57.37 | VIad | seems like the requirements keep quite low |
| 18:58.59 | VIad | after credits message was like "story has come to an end" and voice in my head was like "noooooo" |
| 18:59.54 | VIad | you know when you finish a game, movie, series, something you really enjoyed, then it ends and you sit there unsure how to feel... |
| 19:05.46 | Ackis | better ending than Mass effect 3? |
| 19:06.12 | VIad | I enjoyed both game endings equally |
| 19:06.20 | zenzelezz | I didn't like the ME3 ending(s), but I think people made a far too big deal of it |
| 19:06.22 | VIad | can't really pick what was best |
| 19:06.31 | VIad | I like |
| 19:08.32 | Ackis | agreed zenzelezz |
| 19:09.15 | VIad | I enjoyed even the ending pre ending patch :p |
| 19:11.37 | VIad | so patch 6.2 the wod revolution? |
| 19:16.40 | VIad | my friend stood me up yesterday and maybe today too rofl |
| 19:17.02 | VIad | even called him earlier after work and he was like "yes definetly!" but now he is gone like yesterday :p |
| 19:17.05 | Amarande | VIad: yes, 6.2 may be the time the subscriber odometer revolves around to zero or so. LOL |
| 19:17.41 | VIad | :D |
| 19:17.44 | Amarande | even before the "you'll never fly again" announcement they apparently lost 3 million subs this past quarter :P |
| 19:17.57 | VIad | hey no one wanna do old tbc content while scaled down? :( |
| 19:18.33 | Amarande | and timewalker was implemented lamely, like, why just one weekend a month and not just a permanent thing like the level sync in FFXIV? |
| 19:20.22 | VIad | dunno though |
| 19:20.29 | VIad | like 6.1 and such |
| 19:20.49 | VIad | even when the new raid content game my garrison mission gear instantly made lfr gear irrelevant, like no upgrades |
| 19:20.59 | VIad | been like that for a while now, like no upgrades on my main so pointless to play him |
| 19:21.13 | VIad | hope 6.2 won't add rewards that are still subpar my current gear :P |
| 19:21.31 | VIad | like how brf was when it came out, litterally nothing for you in there unless you got a raiding guild |
| 19:21.40 | VIad | never had this issue in mop lfr |
| 19:21.53 | VIad | always had better stuff in the newer lfr raids than last lfr |
| 19:23.40 | Amarande | yeah, I doubt I'll buy the sixth expansion at this rate |
| 19:23.55 | VIad | I thought mop was boring in the long run |
| 19:24.05 | VIad | at least the final months with flex was fun pre wod :p |
| 19:24.08 | Amarande | if they don't step up their game pretty major league, I can already see the catcalls calling the next xpac the "sixth extinction" instead of expansion :P |
| 19:26.01 | VIad | maybe game goes free to play soon |
| 19:26.07 | VIad | with tokens and all |
| 19:26.28 | VIad | buy vendor gear for raiding, no need to farm anything sub-raid level anymore, just spend 100$ on tokens and get gold :D |
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| 19:34.01 | Amarande | hah, at one point when I was reading about Bitcoin regulation and goings-on I had to wonder if eventually MMOs would just have to start using real US bucks directly as the in-game currency :P |
| 19:34.04 | karl_w_w | wow that is fantastic |
| 19:34.08 | Amarande | and have no more such thing as "gold" at all |
| 19:34.41 | Amarande | remember, keep in mind the general level of clue that the US Congress tends to have about technology in general |
| 19:34.43 | karl_w_w | the duration of the proclaimers - I'm gonna be is the amount of time it takes the international space station to travel 500 miles |
| 19:35.00 | karl_w_w | er, 1000 miles |
| 19:35.24 | Amarande | therefore, the chance that regulations aimed at "virtual currencies" would get poorly worded in a fashion that would impact MMORPG gold pieces and such as well :| |
| 19:35.30 | Amarande | ... is pretty high, sadly. |
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| 19:45.08 | Dagmar | Amarande: The problem with virtual currency regulation is that they're having to tiptoe around "real" currency |
| 19:45.41 | Dagmar | ...because basically the only difference is some government or other prints a small fraction of "real" currency. |
| 19:45.57 | Dagmar | I don't know of any non-fiat currencies anymore |
| 19:50.21 | karl_w_w | nice steam refunds update |
| 19:50.42 | karl_w_w | http://store.steampowered.com/steam_refunds |
| 19:50.51 | karl_w_w | " We do not consider it abuse to request a refund on a title that was purchased just before a sale and then immediately rebuying that title for the sale price." |
| 19:51.50 | Amarande | Dagmar: heh, lemme guess, given the tech competence of Congress, if it wasn't for that we probably *would* be seeing crap like WoW (or especially D3, given it used to be legally tradable for cash) gold being mistakenly banned, wouldn't we :| |
| 19:52.06 | Amarande | after all, this is the organisation that made it illegal to boot your OS without a special licence for about 2 years LOL |
| 19:52.42 | Dagmar | karl_w_w: Most stores that aren't dicks will let you do that, and some will just give you a partial refund to make the transaction simpler |
| 19:52.56 | Amarande | (no really, the copyright law of 1976 forgot to specifically include wording for the act of loading computer software and files off disk/tape, so it was considered a protected form of copying ... :P) |
| 19:54.21 | Mihau | Yep. That whole bullshit with Blizzard and looking at the contents of RAM was DMCA violation or some shit. |
| 19:54.33 | Dagmar | That was "shit lawyers dream up" |
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| 19:55.19 | Dagmar | There'd be less of it if judges could assign lawyers some time in a scorpion pit for coming up with aggressively stupid arguments like that |
| 19:55.44 | Dagmar | It's up there with music people arguing that temporary caching makes a "copy" of a song |
| 19:56.06 | Mihau | Well, it does technically... |
| 19:56.14 | Dagmar | Nope. |
| 19:56.56 | Mihau | A cache is a copy. A copy people can keep? Not supposed to be, but if it was broken in some way. |
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| 19:57.14 | Dagmar | You're unlikely to be able to reconstruct a music track from L2 cache. |
| 19:57.29 | Dagmar | ...nor are you likely to be able to do it from buffer space. |
| 19:57.57 | Dagmar | ...and most importantly, you're going to be completley fucked trying to turn any digital data back into audio without both cache and buffer space. |
| 19:58.20 | Mihau | You didn't say L2 Cache. |
| 19:58.28 | Dagmar | yes, but lawyers did |
| 19:58.37 | Mihau | Cache to me is Spotify caching a file in a temporary directory. :| |
| 19:58.39 | Dagmar | They opened a deep, deep rabbit hole with that argument |
| 19:59.11 | Dagmar | it doesn't cache the entire track tho, and how it caches has nothing to do with the audio itself. |
| 20:00.12 | karl_w_w | so what were they trying to achieve with this argument? |
| 20:00.23 | karl_w_w | the outlawing of playing any digital music? |
| 20:00.41 | Dagmar | THey they should be given more money |
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| 20:12.16 | VIad | my friend came, I quit my game, started one together, he had to go 10 min later, legitimate reason, but still doesn't change the fact I've been waiting for so long then I feel baited now :p |
| 20:12.39 | fewyn | oh god i have an actual in person interview for a job on Thursday and I just realized I don't have anything to wear |
| 20:13.09 | VIad | never had anything but in person interviews before |
| 20:13.42 | fewyn | i've had nothing but phone interviews |
| 20:13.46 | fewyn | since i was 18 |
| 20:13.46 | VIad | oh |
| 20:13.52 | VIad | sounds weird |
| 20:13.54 | VIad | :3 |
| 20:14.08 | fewyn | i worked remote for most of it |
| 20:14.20 | fewyn | actually i lied |
| 20:14.29 | fewyn | my first job was an in person interview |
| 20:14.36 | fewyn | i try to forget that job |
| 20:14.38 | VIad | I work with software development and even I travel downtown to the office each day, even when I can work from home |
| 20:15.23 | fewyn | most of my "interviews" over the last 6 or so months haven't gotten past the phone |
| 20:15.47 | VIad | :o |
| 20:16.14 | VIad | didnt obama fix/ruin everything? |
| 20:20.31 | Amarande | Dagmar: upgrade it to a snake pit, scorpions generally aren't anywhere close to as dangerous as their reputation |
| 20:20.51 | Amarande | plus, snakes will actually strike more readily, scorpions usually try to hide when a much larger creature like a human approaches |
| 20:21.17 | Amarande | then again, snakes vs corporate lawyers ... that might not work either ... professional courtesy and all that LOL |
| 20:22.32 | Amarande | VIad: fix/ruin is probably about right |
| 20:23.27 | Amarande | that's the whole trouble with stuff like obamacare, it actually does benefit some people, especially very poor individuals without children and people with expensive medical conditions that genuinely require thousands of dollars of care a year |
| 20:23.54 | Amarande | on the other hand, it pretty much screws over healthy individuals classed as part time work, and encouraged companies to classify as many workers as possible as such |
| 20:24.02 | nevcairiel | thousands is the wrong unit when talking medical care |
| 20:25.04 | nevcairiel | at least in the US |
| 20:25.09 | Amarande | (which, sadly, was probably also intentional, because if they artificially force jobs to be cut to lower hours, there has to be more of them, which means there may not be any more actual man-hours for people to work and earn wages for, but the DNC sure as heck gets to brag about how many JOBS they created!) |
| 20:25.47 | Amarande | nevcairiel: yeah, "bizarro units" is more like it |
| 20:26.29 | Amarande | especially given how wildly costs can vary, I read one article that gave COPD as an example, a COPD patient in NJ going to Bayonne will pay nearly $100k on average for care, the same patient in parts of NYC will pay maybe $7500 |
| 20:26.44 | Amarande | wow, as if there weren't enough things to say suck about new jersey, heh |
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| 20:31.04 | Dagmar | Well... they do have wild ferrets there. |
| 20:35.13 | VIad | every dota game I play with bots - basically I must carry our team |
| 20:35.24 | VIad | most of the time the bots let me down :p |
| 20:35.28 | VIad | only my team ofc |
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| 20:38.00 | Amarande | VIad: yeah this seems to be the case in almost every party based game with bot teammates |
| 20:38.11 | Amarande | at least, except for ones like Bioware engined RPGs where you get to micromanage |
| 20:38.29 | Amarande | L4D is apparently pretty bad too, I saw a video where the AI teammates basically all go and actively provoke a Witch *smh* |
| 20:38.59 | VIad | if you play 1 player rest bots just let the player pick a playstyle on the bots to better fit you |
| 20:39.11 | VIad | i.e. you can ping but you can't say "agressive" or "defensive" |
| 20:39.19 | VIad | or "let me go first" or "dont wait for me" |
| 20:39.19 | VIad | e.g. |
| 20:39.40 | VIad | could allow some basic commands to help counter the enemy team, since you otherwise cant communicate wit hthe bots :p |
| 20:46.26 | VIad | I finish all the games basically annoyed at my team, yet we crush them so hard on the scorecard on the end |
| 20:49.38 | VIad | btw why can't blizz make the heartstone game on phones have a graphic option like "low quality" to not be such a battery drain? |
| 20:49.57 | Amarande | VIad: I'm not even entirely convinced the graphics are the primary drain |
| 20:50.04 | Amarande | could just even be the game |
| 20:50.06 | VIad | like sure it won't look as nice as the original one, but hey, if you get rid of a lot of pointless animations it will save some battery |
| 20:50.12 | Amarande | FF5 on Android doesn't seem to drain battery all that fast |
| 20:50.33 | Amarande | otoh, Candy Crush Saga is a horrid battery hog, and last time I played it the tablet would get noticeably warm every time |
| 20:50.42 | VIad | dunno |
| 20:50.46 | Amarande | mind you, that might just be the conduit to hell, given that that's where Candy Crush comes from, but ... :) |
| 20:50.56 | VIad | but an option to get rid of most 3d and use 2d would increase battery dramatically |
| 20:51.14 | VIad | the game can be played with simple graphics anyway |
| 20:52.44 | VIad | :D |
| 20:52.53 | VIad | https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/32pgus/hearthstone_on_phones_data_usage_battery_drain/cqdwr44 |
| 20:54.57 | VIad | look Amarande http://i.imgur.com/tQjghYx.jpg |
| 20:55.11 | VIad | perfect for phones :P |
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| 21:03.07 | Mr_Rabies | it's unity, so it's entirely possible that the game's just "3d" even if it doesn't look like it, i'm not really sure how unity works |
| 21:03.31 | Mr_Rabies | but hearthstone's the closest thing to a 2d game that i know for sure is on unity |
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| 21:04.08 | VIad | shrug |
| 21:05.09 | Mr_Rabies | they can probably scale back usage, certainly |
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| 21:05.26 | VIad | can't be hard not to render particle effects for instance :p |
| 21:05.38 | VIad | turn off shadows |
| 21:05.42 | VIad | antialiasing |
| 21:05.47 | VIad | list goes on |
| 21:05.52 | VIad | would certainly help |
| 21:06.05 | VIad | otherwise I can play it on my phone like, half hour, maybe an hour :P |
| 21:06.11 | VIad | and then there is no more phone |
| 21:06.25 | VIad | hence why I dont play it much on it |
| 21:06.30 | VIad | and that kind of defeats the purpose? :P |
| 21:06.42 | VIad | can play my 3ds for hours, much easier to bring that along |
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| 22:17.42 | znf | wow |
| 22:17.44 | znf | I try to log on eurodns |
| 22:18.01 | znf | I had an invalid password 3 times |
| 22:18.07 | znf | I request new password, I reset it |
| 22:18.14 | znf | I get it mailed back |
| 22:18.24 | znf | now when I log on... The maximum number of tries has been exceeded |
| 22:18.26 | znf | like, wtf? |
| 22:19.21 | Amarande | znf: don't worry, soon you will be running the new LGA0000 SecureCPU |
| 22:19.41 | Amarande | By completely enclosing all electrical signals and process to the CPU die, SecureCPU protects your data to the utmost level possible! |
| 22:19.55 | Amarande | (Fine print: May not be compatible with all applications.) |
| 22:20.32 | znf | I've no idea what you mean. |
| 22:21.00 | Amarande | LOL |
| 22:21.14 | Amarande | the joke is that the ultimate security processor would have no actual connections to any other objects, including you |
| 22:21.22 | Amarande | (however, in that case, it would also not be able to run anything) |
| 22:29.10 | znf | http://www.droid-life.com/2015/06/01/deal-nexus-player-is-just-69-at-best-buy-30-off/ |
| 22:44.38 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/OgKtwUv.png |
| 22:44.46 | znf | In that case, I'll just leave the domain name to rot. Fuck that. |
| 22:45.15 | Amarande | znf: heh, you want to know fun, try netsol |
| 22:45.39 | Amarande | I had a domain name through them once and couldn't renew it because I lost the password, and I would have had to not only send them my ID to get it reset, I would have had to find access to a FAX machine to do it |
| 22:46.37 | Amarande | never again, after that I always used joker.com, which I keep my password and updated email for even though I don't currently have any domains registered |
| 22:46.49 | phelps | hey fuck you, faxing is a reliable, high quality and fast method to send documents across the world |
| 22:47.05 | Amarande | phelps: also generally heavily inconvenient |
| 22:47.08 | phelps | it was in 1978 and it still is today |
| 22:47.33 | Amarande | phelps: especially if you need to fax something like an ID, which means you get to pay for a copy and then fax service somewhere because chances are you don't own a fax machine :) |
| 22:47.44 | Amarande | and unless you've got a nice flatbed scanner you can't scan it for your fax modem either |
| 22:48.05 | phelps | i just like the green light and the sound of the stepper motor |
| 22:48.11 | phelps | awww yes |
| 22:50.57 | phelps | i wonder why the light is green |
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| 23:14.30 | Ressy | My work uses fax still like crazy. |
| 23:14.40 | Ressy | Its actually the main way to send documents to the government. >.< |
| 23:14.55 | Icicle | I can see that :D |
| 23:15.40 | Ressy | They've started accepting things via upload in a portal. occasionally. but its easier to run things through a fax machine then play with the scanner then upload. |
| 23:16.09 | Gnarfoz | <karl_w_w> the duration of the proclaimers - I'm gonna be is the amount of time it takes the international space station to travel 500 miles <-- says Who? |
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