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| 01:36.10 | Thordurin | slow speed pursuit, waving at people and cameras lol |
| 01:36.11 | Thordurin | http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/show/live-video-2/ |
| 01:40.40 | Mr_Rabies | this is amazing |
| 01:44.59 | Mr_Rabies | 100% |
| 01:45.00 | Mr_Rabies | amazing |
| 01:46.20 | p3lim | https://i.imgur.com/qedYJ8C.png |
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| 01:51.02 | pompy1 | lol epic Thordurin |
| 01:51.05 | pompy1 | , |
| 01:51.51 | Mr_Rabies | awww |
| 01:51.53 | Mr_Rabies | they stopped him |
| 01:51.57 | Mr_Rabies | some dude did |
| 01:52.06 | pompy1 | haha yaeh |
| 01:52.14 | pompy1 | at least it was peacefully |
| 01:52.35 | pompy1 | LOL they arrested the pewrson that went in front of his car... |
| 01:52.51 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 01:52.59 | Mr_Rabies | they'll probably just get a report and let him go |
| 01:53.06 | Mr_Rabies | just in case he's involved |
| 01:53.32 | Dagmar | He's going to probably get a firm scolding for "endangering himself" |
| 01:58.22 | Thordurin | hugs Cairenn |
| 01:58.33 | Cairenn | hugs Thordurin |
| 01:58.43 | Thordurin | :D |
| 01:59.12 | Cairenn | How goes? |
| 01:59.30 | Thordurin | Goes well, three 3-day weekends in a row = win! |
| 01:59.34 | Thordurin | you? |
| 01:59.36 | Cairenn | Nice |
| 01:59.40 | Cairenn | Doing okay |
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| 05:15.00 | Iriel | I see open beta has increased the jackass quotient in HotS |
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| 05:21.27 | nebula169 | played a few games and people complained about that, seemed pretty much the same to me |
| 05:21.42 | nebula169 | sometimes people are retarded /shrug |
| 05:51.02 | Iriel | I mostly mean about how they act in chat, not actual play. |
| 05:52.00 | Iriel | shrugs, block at least works. |
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| 06:50.12 | karl_w_w | does anyone know a tool that will tell you details of a media stream? |
| 06:50.17 | karl_w_w | like mediainfo for streams |
| 06:51.27 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
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| 08:32.34 | sb | foxlit: when are you planning to add "future" (6.2) cache missions to MP? |
| 08:37.46 | nevcairiel | 6.2 cache missions are from the boats |
| 08:37.50 | nevcairiel | not the followers |
| 09:39.05 | zenzelezz | all right, so on Steam there's "The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Beard and Hairstyle Set" and "The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Temerian Armor Set", separate from the main game... but free. Sounds odd, unless they're huge, or somehow alter the experience of the game |
| 09:40.00 | karl_w_w | http://www.googlefeud.com/ |
| 09:42.47 | nevcairiel | i suck at that karl_w_w |
| 09:55.44 | kullervo | zen, the dev team will release all the dlc for free |
| 09:55.59 | kullervo | they sent out a letter explaining it with the physical games |
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| 12:38.15 | Simca_ | aw that's not fair |
| 12:38.33 | Simca_ | I was guessing kitten on every one and I missed the one that actually had kitten as one of the answers because I wasn't specific enough |
| 12:38.46 | Simca_ | http://i.imgur.com/8FgrMOB.png |
| 12:40.56 | karl_w_w | best I have done in a round is 3 |
| 12:41.47 | karl_w_w | even on the name ones I usually only get 1 |
| 12:48.06 | karl_w_w | "Barack Obama is a..." |
| 12:48.11 | karl_w_w | top answer, mack daddy |
| 12:48.27 | karl_w_w | 6th answer, cactus |
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| 12:50.46 | Maldivia | clone, puppet, hero |
| 12:51.19 | Simca_ | i'm surprised Muslim wasn't #1 |
| 12:51.21 | Simca_ | or terrorist |
| 12:51.29 | Simca_ | those are the buzzwords i'd expect |
| 12:51.50 | Fisker | "Obama lives in..." |
| 12:51.55 | Fisker | "Africa was second of course" |
| 12:52.00 | Fisker | damnit brain |
| 12:52.22 | Maldivia | sherwood forest?! |
| 12:53.14 | karl_w_w | muslim was my first guess simca, but it wasnt there :P |
| 12:53.29 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 12:53.30 | Simca_ | waaaat |
| 12:53.37 | nevcairiel | i had "giraffes are" .. and the answers are all crazy |
| 12:53.46 | Simca_ | also, google feud you can't include yourself, wtf. http://i.imgur.com/dByBSe7.png |
| 12:53.48 | karl_w_w | hahahah |
| 12:54.06 | karl_w_w | i had "obama is from" which only had 4 answers |
| 12:54.22 | karl_w_w | kenya, africa, which country in africa, and indonesia |
| 12:54.28 | nevcairiel | "giraffes are so selfish" is apparently a common search term |
| 12:54.50 | Fisker | they are selfish |
| 12:54.58 | Fisker | how many cats have they helped down trees huh? |
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| 12:56.24 | Simca_ | LOL http://i.imgur.com/cjmeLmd.png |
| 12:56.36 | nevcairiel | hahah i had that one just now |
| 12:57.06 | Fisker | also it should be feud for google Simca_ |
| 12:57.11 | Fisker | such disregard |
| 12:57.26 | Fisker | wow |
| 12:57.43 | Fisker | "The poor should" ... "die?" yup highest ranked result |
| 12:58.04 | Fisker | haha stop being poor is the second |
| 12:58.08 | karl_w_w | beef jerky is... like a meat raisin |
| 12:59.32 | Simca_ | google morality feud http://i.imgur.com/1PK03eF.png |
| 13:00.04 | nevcairiel | cool wasnt an answer? |
| 13:00.15 | Fisker | of course not |
| 13:01.38 | Simca_ | well my life is complete I can stop now http://i.imgur.com/x9gGeCS.png |
| 13:01.52 | nevcairiel | thats not #1?!?! |
| 13:02.12 | Simca_ | no, that was jesus |
| 13:02.39 | znf | So, I have a laptop that won't get a dhcp lease from my router |
| 13:02.42 | znf | with Windows 7 |
| 13:02.48 | znf | any ideas what the hell should I try doing? |
| 13:02.57 | znf | 5+ devices are on the router, so... :-/ |
| 13:03.51 | Fisker | only 5+? |
| 13:04.40 | znf | Yes... |
| 13:04.53 | znf | my router is offering the lease, but the laptop won't accept it |
| 13:05.03 | Fisker | rekt |
| 13:05.25 | znf | so, any ideas why is windows sucking balls? |
| 13:05.52 | Fisker | not windows |
| 13:06.40 | karl_w_w | the service znf? |
| 13:06.53 | znf | karl_w_w, on windows? |
| 13:06.57 | karl_w_w | dhcp client |
| 13:06.58 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 13:06.59 | znf | Fisker, yes, windows. |
| 13:07.15 | znf | Seeing that I have a Win8 machine connected, a Win7 connected and 3 android phones |
| 13:07.17 | znf | oh, and a linux box |
| 13:07.21 | znf | which all got the lease |
| 13:07.28 | Fisker | so confirmed not windows |
| 13:07.29 | Fisker | thanks |
| 13:07.35 | znf | Fuck off, Fisker |
| 13:07.39 | znf | This specific device. |
| 13:07.43 | Fisker | yes |
| 13:07.50 | Fisker | you said windows |
| 13:08.00 | znf | It's running Windows. The OS is handling dhcp-leases. |
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| 13:15.28 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/ubTulnM.png |
| 13:23.54 | znf | *shrug* no idea what's wrong with this windows install |
| 13:40.49 | fewyn | might be the actual nic znf |
| 13:40.53 | fewyn | i've had that problem |
| 13:41.06 | fewyn | and i couldn't figure out if it was a driver issue or hardware in the nic |
| 13:41.17 | fewyn | bought a new nic and it fixed the issue |
| 14:00.49 | znf | fewyn, well, it's a laptop, it's wifi, it also works on another wlan |
| 14:00.56 | znf | but I can't even use netsh to set a static ip |
| 14:00.58 | znf | it crashes |
| 14:04.49 | fewyn | maybe a corrupted driver? |
| 14:09.15 | karl_w_w | have you tried running wireshark to see if you're getting the dhcp properly> |
| 14:15.29 | kullervo | imagine if a strong AI was developed and it learned to communicate though tcp/ip. It's then contacted by a probing malware which the AI then learns from and turns into the world's most powerful spambot |
| 14:16.56 | kullervo | not quite skynet but a likely scenario |
| 14:19.38 | Maldivia | kullervo: or it found netflix and started watching movies, and got ideas from matrix, terminator, etc |
| 14:20.45 | kullervo | it would have to process the compressed data, far more unlikely |
| 14:22.01 | Maldivia | why would you thing that's unlikely... |
| 14:24.36 | kullervo | more variables |
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| 15:08.30 | znf | karl_w_w, well, I have other devices which work... so... |
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| 15:53.26 | bluspacecow | *casts Milkyway Bars for everyone* |
| 15:53.39 | bluspacecow | *Milkway bars start raining from the ceiling* |
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| 16:26.25 | bluspacecow | hey |
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| 16:58.07 | karl_w_w | VIad, this is commitment to cosplay http://i.imgur.com/Dj5BNxY.jpg |
| 16:58.41 | VIad | :D |
| 17:12.27 | Maldivia | congrats Ireland |
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| 17:54.27 | Fisker | Hey Seerah |
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| 18:00.52 | Dagmar | Dude is wearing the wrap from a 2-liter of coca cola. |
| 18:01.17 | Dagmar | ...and apparently part of a kid's gym mat. |
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| 18:06.19 | Seerah | Hey, Fisker |
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| 18:19.38 | Fisker | Oh no |
| 18:19.50 | Fisker | My plans were foiled |
| 18:23.48 | bluspacecow | how many fucks do you give? |
| 18:29.57 | Fisker | Many |
| 18:39.11 | zenzelezz | speaking of fucks given, almost time for Eurovision |
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| 18:52.02 | Maldivia | yay |
| 18:52.09 | Maldivia | go Denmark... oh wait |
| 18:53.07 | zenzelezz | if things go as normal, I'll watch the first ~10 minutes, and then be in too much mental pain to keep going |
| 18:55.45 | Maldivia | stick it out it's only once a year |
| 18:56.02 | Maldivia | you have a full year to recuperate |
| 19:21.20 | Maldivia | hah, eurovision.tv can't handle the grand finale :D |
| 19:24.44 | foxlit | pity those without national broadcaster streams, then, Maldivia? |
| 19:24.59 | Maldivia | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQETFB4jV_A |
| 19:25.03 | Maldivia | live streaming on YouTube |
| 19:29.17 | foxlit | potatocodec :( |
| 19:29.54 | Maldivia | most of the good ones are in the first half of the show |
| 19:30.14 | Maldivia | go go golden boy! |
| 19:40.52 | foxlit | certainly very fun. |
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| 19:44.36 | foxlit | this, on the other hand, needs a fast-forward button. |
| 19:45.08 | Maldivia | I HATE Armenia... and not just because I live with an Azeri |
| 19:49.58 | Gnarfoz | potatocodec is on eurovision.tv - youtube is amazing in comparison |
| 19:51.08 | Gnarfoz | http://i.imgur.com/J6BH7ro.png http://i.imgur.com/Bb7Fr9C.png http://i.imgur.com/CnQ42xB.png :D I'd be ashamed to work in the responsible team |
| 19:51.14 | Maldivia | potatocodec = the disaster that is octoshape? |
| 19:51.51 | Gnarfoz | Octoshape is not a codec |
| 19:52.11 | Gnarfoz | (and also not likely part of the problem) |
| 19:52.17 | Maldivia | hmm, no, that's just the infestation of the delivery |
| 19:52.37 | nevcairiel | mass consumer streaming is usually terrible, not many companies try to go the extra mile |
| 19:52.37 | Gnarfoz | you can just click "no" |
| 19:52.49 | Maldivia | I know |
| 19:53.06 | foxlit | clicked "no", got "stream not available" |
| 19:53.27 | Gnarfoz | you fail |
| 19:53.28 | Maldivia | clicking yes, so it downloads the installer, is enough for it to continue :) |
| 19:53.33 | Maldivia | you don't have to install |
| 19:54.24 | Gnarfoz | you don't even have to do *that*, but using something like Hola!, ProxMate, ProxTube, ProxFlow or whatever and then viewing the YT stream is superior anyway >_> |
| 19:54.52 | Maldivia | the YT stream is geo locked? |
| 19:54.58 | Maldivia | or why the Prox* ? |
| 19:55.20 | Gnarfoz | well, you can omit that, if it's available in your location |
| 19:55.27 | Gnarfoz | (yes, it is, like everything on yt) |
| 19:55.45 | Maldivia | ok, thought it was free for all |
| 19:56.04 | Gnarfoz | I think YT live is simply not available in Germany no matter the content |
| 19:57.03 | Gnarfoz | our national broadcaster's online stream is somewhere in between the pixelsoup that is eurovision.tv and the "good enough to not puke while watching" YT stream ^^ |
| 19:57.30 | Gnarfoz | considering the amount of mone we (have to!) throw at them, they could really dial up their encoders' bitrate some |
| 19:59.45 | Maldivia | Sweden... who everone thinks will win |
| 19:59.47 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I know I have asked this before hoping you'd know, but if you answered, I forgot the answer :D why are many video codecs so bad at compressing red? |
| 20:00.10 | Gnarfoz | or is it psychovisual |
| 20:00.25 | Gnarfoz | (and if it is, why don't codecs employ countermeasures?) |
| 20:00.44 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: red? there isnt really any color bias |
| 20:01.09 | foxlit | he's slightly misaligned with the projection :( |
| 20:01.22 | Gnarfoz | heh, yes |
| 20:01.40 | nevcairiel | red is usually just the most obvious to color problems since it has about the biggest contrast (red on black) |
| 20:01.58 | foxlit | which is a pity, because coordinating the performance, projection and camera angles seems like a cool problem to solve. |
| 20:02.01 | Gnarfoz | why does red on black have higher contrast than green on black? |
| 20:02.08 | Gnarfoz | isn't it the same? |
| 20:02.43 | nevcairiel | that depends on the perception really |
| 20:03.11 | Gnarfoz | if anything, green should be worse then, considering our eyes are most sensitive to green |
| 20:03.33 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I just regularly notice in material that otherwise looks fine that red areas are blocky |
| 20:07.12 | Gnarfoz | why is Australia in this, anyway?! :D |
| 20:07.39 | nevcairiel | usually its just because cheap video compression sacrifices colors ("chroma") much more then brightness ("luma"), and because we are more senstitive to greens and blues, reds just b lur out more |
| 20:07.47 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: https://twitter.com/bbceurovision/status/602204040441810944 |
| 20:08.01 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: tehee |
| 20:08.21 | Gnarfoz | clearly to be read in Graham's voice |
| 20:11.08 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: yeah, googling some more it's clearly a chroma subsampling artifact |
| 20:11.37 | Gnarfoz | 4:2:0 YUV is the destroyer of colours! :D |
| 20:11.37 | nevcairiel | it doesnt have to, though |
| 20:11.46 | nevcairiel | every bluray uses that and looks usually fine |
| 20:11.56 | Gnarfoz | they don't use 4 Mbit/s bitrate, tho. |
| 20:12.14 | Gnarfoz | probably less noticable at 30 Mbit/s :D |
| 20:12.18 | nevcairiel | its usually a bad ration between luma:chroma |
| 20:12.21 | nevcairiel | -n |
| 20:12.41 | Gnarfoz | where is that defined, then? |
| 20:12.51 | nevcairiel | encoder can chose that |
| 20:12.55 | nevcairiel | +o |
| 20:13.22 | Gnarfoz | does it have a name beyond "luma:chroma ratio"? |
| 20:14.43 | nevcairiel | chroma qp offset? |
| 20:14.44 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 20:14.47 | Gnarfoz | sidenote: no particularly crazy songs/performances, yet |
| 20:15.10 | nevcairiel | thats how the option is called in x264 (the encoder, not to be confused with h264, the codec standard) |
| 20:15.31 | foxlit | hey, belgium was pretty nonsensical just now |
| 20:16.13 | Maldivia | I dubbed hime Lorde-like a while ago :) |
| 20:17.48 | Maldivia | hmm, a burning piano... that cannot be good for the sound |
| 20:17.50 | Gnarfoz | burning piano |
| 20:17.50 | Gnarfoz | ok |
| 20:17.51 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:18.00 | Gnarfoz | Maldivia: afaik only vocals have to be live |
| 20:18.06 | Gnarfoz | backing track can be playback |
| 20:18.32 | Maldivia | (time to cross of fire on the stage on the eurovision-bingo plate) |
| 20:18.40 | Gnarfoz | considering there's still piano sound now |
| 20:18.42 | Gnarfoz | even though he's not playing |
| 20:18.43 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:19.06 | Maldivia | yeah, I know |
| 20:19.11 | foxlit | the most popular non-stopword in song lyrics is "love" |
| 20:19.33 | Gnarfoz | is that really surprising |
| 20:21.04 | foxlit | I don't know, only looked at this year. |
| 20:27.16 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I'm not sure I understand the description of --chroma-qp-offset... that's not the same as chroma subsampling ratio, is it? |
| 20:27.21 | Maldivia | and sorry to all the Germans, you're up next... and your song really isn't that great... |
| 20:27.45 | Maldivia | (but hey, you're in the finale... Denmark isn't... so there's that) |
| 20:28.15 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: subsampling is always fixed ratio, usually 4:2:0 for consumer distribution, but qp offset just increases the compression for chroma |
| 20:28.19 | Gnarfoz | Germany is *always* in the finale, Maldivia |
| 20:28.34 | Gnarfoz | Big five and all that jazz |
| 20:28.35 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: I know |
| 20:28.50 | Gnarfoz | I don't even know our song |
| 20:28.51 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:29.15 | Gnarfoz | saw in the German pre-show that it's by someone called Ann Sofie, never heard of her either |
| 20:29.18 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 20:29.26 | Gnarfoz | she's from where nevcairiel lives, though! |
| 20:29.40 | nevcairiel | does she look good? |
| 20:29.44 | foxlit | apparently the german national-round winner refused to participate in eurovision |
| 20:29.47 | foxlit | so here's to #2. |
| 20:29.57 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: she was 2nd in the national selection... #1 didn't want to go |
| 20:29.57 | Gnarfoz | he had stagefright |
| 20:30.09 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that was also mentioned in that preshow thing |
| 20:30.16 | Maldivia | wtf... that performance... |
| 20:31.39 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: so basically to not make the subsampling even worse by compressing it as heavily as the Y component that has double the bandwidth already? |
| 20:31.50 | Neffi | serenades Semlar with some gangsta rap. |
| 20:31.50 | Gnarfoz | (or the other way, I'm certain it takes negative values, too) |
| 20:31.54 | nevcairiel | chroma is always compressed more than luma |
| 20:32.04 | nevcairiel | despite also being subsampled |
| 20:32.18 | Gnarfoz | x264 docs say otherwise |
| 20:32.30 | nevcairiel | and you can get away with that because of how our eyes work |
| 20:32.38 | foxlit | the technical details aren't particularly interesting |
| 20:32.43 | Gnarfoz | only starting from quantizer 29 does h264 standard enforce it |
| 20:33.21 | foxlit | codecs optimize for psychovisual metrics; essentially, it looks this way because some mathematical model says this looks better than the alternatives at that bitrace/encoding complexity. |
| 20:33.46 | Gnarfoz | in any case, I guess the answer to my initial question is "it looks pixelated because it IS pixelated" (thanks 4:2:0 subsampling!) |
| 20:33.58 | nevcairiel | hm maybe i mis-remembered the defaults then |
| 20:34.13 | Gnarfoz | I wonder if this piano is also going to go up in flames |
| 20:34.19 | nevcairiel | but you can do 4:2:0 sub-sampling without too obvious artifacts |
| 20:34.29 | nevcairiel | *if* the upscaling back to 4:4:4 is done properly |
| 20:35.04 | Semlar | damn it feels good to be a gangster neffi |
| 20:35.34 | Gnarfoz | shame the 4:2:2 distribution feed is not available in real time |
| 20:35.48 | Neffi | Semlar: :D |
| 20:35.50 | Gnarfoz | and since the show is not really worth archiving, I'm not going to d/l it later! :D |
| 20:36.04 | Gnarfoz | but it shows up every year ^^ |
| 20:36.20 | nevcairiel | those dont necessarily have to be any better |
| 20:36.54 | Gnarfoz | barring any other differences, shouldn't it be? |
| 20:37.44 | Gnarfoz | (there ARE other differences :P it's 37 Mbit/s h264 1080i w/ 5.1 FLAC audio...) |
| 20:38.15 | nevcairiel | distribution streams dont have flac :p |
| 20:38.39 | Gnarfoz | right, I was lazy ;-) |
| 20:38.52 | Gnarfoz | the FLAC is probably transcoded from the Dolby E |
| 20:39.05 | nevcairiel | if its interlaced, you lose half the resolution again, which explains crappy looking |
| 20:39.20 | Gnarfoz | is there any European live TV in 1080p? |
| 20:39.28 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 20:39.33 | Gnarfoz | at least all .de stuff is 720p or 1080i |
| 20:39.52 | nevcairiel | if you're lucky stuff is telecined and can be re-constructed to 1080p |
| 20:40.02 | nevcairiel | but thats for movie content, live recorded content is usually full interlaced |
| 20:40.21 | Gnarfoz | wtb moar bandwidth |
| 20:40.22 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
| 20:40.38 | Gnarfoz | all these solutions to save bandwidth :( |
| 20:41.00 | nevcairiel | its a shame some idiots hacked interlaced back into hevc |
| 20:41.16 | Gnarfoz | hmm, the semi-finals stuff is under "Captures", and no notice of any re-encoding the audio |
| 20:41.58 | Gnarfoz | maybe their source actually had FLAC, no idea... there was stuff with Dolby E in previous years for sure |
| 20:42.08 | nevcairiel | nah broadcast doesnt use flac |
| 20:42.11 | foxlit | wait, kane on stage? |
| 20:42.35 | Gnarfoz | Kane is taking over |
| 20:42.46 | nevcairiel | but dolby e is useless for us anyway, dolby is pretty protective of the codec |
| 20:42.49 | Maldivia | kane? |
| 20:42.55 | Gnarfoz | yeah, there's only two software decoders |
| 20:43.01 | Gnarfoz | and they're both fucking expensive ^^ |
| 20:43.58 | Gnarfoz | hm, it has two other MPEG layer 2 audio tracks? I wonder what's on those |
| 20:44.01 | foxlit | would've been cooler with a red stage set instead of white. |
| 20:44.26 | Gnarfoz | definitely |
| 20:44.29 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: same audio probably |
| 20:44.40 | Gnarfoz | and some Brotherhood of Nod logos |
| 20:44.49 | Maldivia | foxlit: well, for a song about abandonment, white/grey is appropriate |
| 20:44.50 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: maybe, but they're both 2.0 |
| 20:45.25 | Gnarfoz | Maldivia: http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Kane http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Brotherhood_of_Nod |
| 20:45.55 | Maldivia | yeah ok, see the resemblence |
| 20:46.24 | Maldivia | little red ridinghood? |
| 20:46.27 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 20:46.28 | Maldivia | is that the wolf? |
| 20:46.35 | Gnarfoz | no, it's granny |
| 20:48.08 | Maldivia | and she just lost her innocence? |
| 20:48.27 | Gnarfoz | I think she turned into Goldilocks |
| 20:48.42 | Maldivia | well, I'm sure there are some bears in the audience... D: |
| 20:48.43 | Gnarfoz | HAL9000 makes an appearance |
| 20:49.10 | Maldivia | LOL that finishing tone... |
| 20:49.15 | Maldivia | note* |
| 20:50.14 | Maldivia | ahh, time for snooze fest |
| 20:51.48 | Gnarfoz | it'd probably be space prohibitive to just encode everything at Hi444PP, nevcairiel? ^^ |
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| 20:52.16 | Gnarfoz | (well, at the "access to source" stage, clearly... no point encoding blu-rays with that when they're already at 4:2:0) |
| 20:53.28 | Gnarfoz | ah, stare of doom lady inc |
| 20:54.25 | foxlit | "gonna" is also over-represented. |
| 20:54.47 | Gnarfoz | I bet "oximated" isn't |
| 20:55.40 | Gnarfoz | this falls way too far into my FFM music preferences ^^ |
| 20:55.45 | foxlit | not-a-word. |
| 20:56.32 | Gnarfoz | she thinks otherwise! ^^ |
| 20:56.42 | foxlit | some swede thinks otherwise |
| 20:56.47 | Gnarfoz | it's in this song |
| 20:57.31 | Maldivia | go Elnur! |
| 20:58.34 | Gnarfoz | Ainur? |
| 20:59.16 | Maldivia | Elnur Huseynov -- Azerbaijan's singer |
| 21:00.46 | Gnarfoz | he's going! |
| 21:03.30 | Gnarfoz | guitar guy |
| 21:03.35 | Gnarfoz | going crazy |
| 21:03.39 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:07.26 | Maldivia | wow... has she hit any notes correctly yet? |
| 21:09.48 | Gnarfoz | there's a reason vocals have to be live ^^ |
| 21:10.10 | Gnarfoz | phew, it's almost over! |
| 21:10.18 | foxlit | but but. |
| 21:10.25 | foxlit | "12 points to norway" is the most amusing part? |
| 21:10.42 | Gnarfoz | the notion is amusing, certainly |
| 21:11.47 | Maldivia | ok Italy is a lot better when they don't have that annoying music video to distract you... and glasses-guy sounds amazing live |
| 21:12.11 | Gnarfoz | quite good, nod nod |
| 21:13.09 | foxlit | meanwhile everything is blowing up in the background. |
| 21:13.39 | Maldivia | well, it only has to survive for another 1.5 hours so, until they are done with the voting |
| 21:13.41 | Maldivia | :D |
| 21:14.06 | Gnarfoz | most recent non-english song to win was in 2007 |
| 21:14.07 | Gnarfoz | hmmm |
| 21:14.52 | Gnarfoz | maximum echo |
| 21:15.48 | Gnarfoz | wait, I was in the kitchen when Slovenia was on stage... did they have headphones on?! :D |
| 21:15.59 | foxlit | yes. |
| 21:16.04 | Maldivia | ofcourse... it's her look |
| 21:16.09 | Gnarfoz | ok |
| 21:16.30 | Gnarfoz | thought they had maybe compiled this clipshow from the dress rehearsal |
| 21:16.40 | Gnarfoz | UK :D |
| 21:16.47 | Gnarfoz | well it's not Bonnie Tyler at least |
| 21:17.38 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: https://www.google.com/search?q=eurovision+slovenia+2015&tbm=isch -- see if you can find an image without headphones :) |
| 21:19.16 | Maldivia | well, they might have used dress rehearsal footage as well for some of it, they had jury show yesterday, and family rehearsal earlier today |
| 21:21.26 | Maldivia | I wonder, do the delegations decide which part of their song is used for the these 15 sec segments? or is it the production company that decides? |
| 21:21.50 | Maldivia | I assume it's the delegations |
| 21:23.45 | Maldivia | they should have hired safri duo instead :D |
| 21:24.24 | Gnarfoz | production isn't really done by a company (I wouldn't know what else to call it, though, either :P) |
| 21:24.35 | Gnarfoz | but I'd say it's EBU who picks that |
| 21:25.11 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. the production... people. organisation... thing) |
| 21:25.38 | Maldivia | wouldn't it be more fair if the individual delegations picked? |
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| 21:31.56 | Gnarfoz | I doubt the clipshow snippet has great influence on votes ;) |
| 21:32.28 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: but a delegation could argue "you showed a boring part of our song, and that's the raeson we lost" |
| 21:32.30 | Gnarfoz | I didn't know Nightwish almost went to the ESC in 2000 ;D |
| 21:32.48 | Gnarfoz | Maldivia: "you lost because your song sucked, deal with it" |
| 21:32.48 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:33.20 | Gnarfoz | if there's something memorable in a performance, you bet any producer worth their salt is going to put that in the clipshow |
| 21:33.24 | Maldivia | "We'll make our own song contest next year... we'll call it SovietVision..." |
| 21:33.47 | Gnarfoz | that leaves 1 year to invent a time machine |
| 21:34.30 | Gnarfoz | is it actually the same clip each run-through? |
| 21:34.36 | Gnarfoz | I didn't pay attention to that ^^ |
| 21:34.53 | Gnarfoz | (probably is) |
| 21:37.22 | foxlit | predict the relative ranking of germany, uk, and france. |
| 21:38.26 | Maldivia | UK: 10-12, Germany, France: 18-22 |
| 21:39.59 | Gnarfoz | in the spirit of previous topics: 4:2:0 ;D |
| 21:40.39 | Gnarfoz | the lines didn't close, they exploded! |
| 21:42.28 | Maldivia | foxlit: Italy, Australia: 4-6, Spain: 14-16, Austria: meh |
| 21:42.46 | Maldivia | (just to include the remaining prequalified) |
| 21:46.48 | Tuller | ham |
| 21:47.46 | Gnarfoz | bacon |
| 21:57.19 | Gnarfoz | that was almost the call with the least possible filler by the caller |
| 21:57.33 | Maldivia | yeah, very surprised... |
| 21:57.39 | Maldivia | and then came the ding-dong... |
| 21:57.42 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 21:59.50 | Maldivia | how the hell is albania getting votes?! |
| 22:00.00 | foxlit | it's an interactive map of europe |
| 22:00.22 | Maldivia | I like how they translate "Vienna" to the language of the country they're calling |
| 22:00.48 | Gnarfoz | not bad on the German there |
| 22:01.03 | Maldivia | yeah, sounded pretty good actaully! |
| 22:03.22 | Gnarfoz | bad greenscreen ;p |
| 22:03.29 | Maldivia | yes |
| 22:03.44 | Gnarfoz | hahaa |
| 22:03.54 | Gnarfoz | and the background loop cuts out with headlights visible |
| 22:04.05 | Gnarfoz | imgur has better looping gifs than that |
| 22:08.25 | Gnarfoz | quite a few still at 0 |
| 22:08.45 | Maldivia | including hosting country :D |
| 22:10.09 | Maldivia | my top 3 prediction yesterday was: Sweden, Russia, Estonia |
| 22:10.26 | Gnarfoz | aww, more Skype troubles :p |
| 22:13.09 | Maldivia | but my UK prediction was way off :D |
| 22:14.10 | Maldivia | but let's put it this way... 5 of the bottom 7 were prequalified for the grand finale.... |
| 22:14.37 | Gnarfoz | that just changed to 4 ^^ |
| 22:14.39 | Gnarfoz | but yeah |
| 22:15.01 | Maldivia | I thought Israel would have been in the running as well |
| 22:15.30 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 22:16.45 | Maldivia | but impossible to say yet... |
| 22:17.55 | Maldivia | soo much lag on these calls |
| 22:20.27 | Gnarfoz | the connection to Australia seems to have less lag then the others before ;p |
| 22:20.44 | Maldivia | ... and Australia usually have shitty internet connection |
| 22:21.04 | Gnarfoz | it's just very far away from... almost anything ^^ |
| 22:21.23 | Maldivia | germany and austria at 0... ouchj |
| 22:24.42 | Gnarfoz | maybe Italy can still catch up |
| 22:25.56 | Maldivia | russia still hasn't voted, right? |
| 22:26.18 | Gnarfoz | don't think so |
| 22:26.19 | Maldivia | no, russia is no 35 |
| 22:26.52 | Maldivia | lol... in the middle of 25 fans :D |
| 22:27.52 | Gnarfoz | ye ^^ |
| 22:28.10 | Gnarfoz | also, another greenscreen, just not quite as bad |
| 22:29.05 | Torhal | Seerah: It's for personal reasons! |
| 22:29.08 | Torhal | headdesks. |
| 22:29.17 | Maldivia | uhh, russia only 5 points, that could be a turning point for sweden |
| 22:29.35 | Maldivia | (ok, not quite) |
| 22:30.22 | Maldivia | if they are neck to neck in the end... last country to vote is Norway :D |
| 22:30.29 | Gnarfoz | hah |
| 22:30.30 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 22:30.38 | Maldivia | and before that Iceland |
| 22:31.21 | Maldivia | ok, sweden is on top now. |
| 22:31.45 | Gnarfoz | are you watching on TV? |
| 22:31.52 | Maldivia | no, but calculating :) |
| 22:31.57 | nebula169 | what are you guys talking about? |
| 22:31.59 | Gnarfoz | well ;) |
| 22:32.14 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: Eurovision Song Contest |
| 22:32.31 | Gnarfoz | err |
| 22:32.32 | Gnarfoz | nebula169: ^ |
| 22:32.56 | Maldivia | what... russia not getting 12 from Georgia!?! |
| 22:33.40 | Gnarfoz | that's got to be the first one to say Ãsterreich instead of Austria |
| 22:34.21 | Maldivia | whaaaat... no points for russia?=! |
| 22:34.37 | Gnarfoz | 6, you mean? |
| 22:34.50 | Maldivia | no, latvia gave 0 to Russia |
| 22:34.58 | Maldivia | sorry, lithuania |
| 22:35.16 | Gnarfoz | ah, well |
| 22:35.48 | Maldivia | yeah, sweden won |
| 22:36.03 | Gnarfoz | zero filler call! |
| 22:36.22 | Gnarfoz | Hello, points, no delays! this show would already be over if all calls were like that ;P |
| 22:37.57 | Maldivia | I must say, I underestimated Italy |
| 22:38.08 | Gnarfoz | if this ends with two countries at 0 points, I'll have a laugh |
| 22:38.09 | foxlit | fra > uk > ger, unexpected! |
| 22:38.39 | Maldivia | and I grosely overrated UK |
| 22:39.44 | Maldivia | grossly :) |
| 22:39.46 | foxlit | I'd say it's more that nobody votes for UK. |
| 22:39.47 | Maldivia | * |
| 22:39.53 | Gnarfoz | I'm actually amazed UK is in front of DE or AT, but w/e |
| 22:40.03 | foxlit | better entry than the ranking would suggest. |
| 22:40.19 | foxlit | oh hey, it moved. justice. |
| 22:40.20 | Gnarfoz | hey, UK got some points just now |
| 22:40.21 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 22:40.50 | Gnarfoz | 12, she means |
| 22:41.05 | Maldivia | again, 0 for Russia... wow |
| 22:43.42 | Maldivia | and no one can reach Sweden |
| 22:44.13 | Gnarfoz | 6 points to go for Sweden |
| 22:44.38 | Maldivia | will they stop the votes now, or do the last 3? |
| 22:44.44 | Gnarfoz | they'll do the last 3 |
| 22:44.47 | Gnarfoz | 3? |
| 22:44.54 | Gnarfoz | that's why my calculation is off |
| 22:44.55 | foxlit | or 5? |
| 22:45.05 | Maldivia | last 4 |
| 22:45.11 | foxlit | I wonder what they did with those whose connections broke off |
| 22:45.15 | Maldivia | 3 that were skipped, + Norway |
| 22:45.16 | Gnarfoz | they're last |
| 22:45.22 | Gnarfoz | that's why Norway = now |
| 22:45.42 | foxlit | but technically they already know their scores, so it's more work to have the scoreboard not reflect them. |
| 22:46.08 | Gnarfoz | technically, the scoreboard only reflects what has been announced on screen, so I doubt it's extra work |
| 22:46.26 | foxlit | they showed the 1-7s twice, then. |
| 22:47.19 | Maldivia | the dropped calls, the 1-8 points were removed again |
| 22:47.24 | Maldivia | 1-7* |
| 22:47.41 | Maldivia | will russia end up 3rd?! |
| 22:47.42 | Gnarfoz | worst case, they go to the backup jury |
| 22:47.47 | foxlit | so someone did that work :P |
| 22:47.57 | Gnarfoz | they just might |
| 22:48.14 | Maldivia | if the connection drops again, they'll just announce the points probably |
| 22:49.29 | Gnarfoz | double 0, wow :D even one 0 is not an occurence every year |
| 22:50.34 | Gnarfoz | last 0 points was in 2003? wow |
| 22:51.04 | Maldivia | well, I called 1st and 2nd place yesterday ... but missed 3rd place completely |
| 22:53.02 | Maldivia | yay... Denmark won!! |
| 22:53.20 | Maldivia | (he's 1/8th Dane... that counts, right?) |
| 22:53.37 | Gnarfoz | only if nationalities worked that way ;) |
| 22:55.29 | Mr_Rabies | the us should just bring andrew WK next year |
| 22:57.29 | Maldivia | well, called 8 of top 10 yesterday :) |
| 23:02.32 | zenzelezz | welp... I didn't catch most of what happened in the Eurovision, but I now have a better understanding of hypo- and hyperthermia, epilepsy, the Estonia disaster, a couple of aircraft accidents, the assassination of Georgi Markov, ... thank you wikipedia |
| 23:03.31 | Maldivia | Estonia disaster? |
| 23:03.44 | zenzelezz | the ship that sank about 20 years ago |
| 23:03.47 | Maldivia | ahh |
| 23:04.00 | Maldivia | I remember that |
| 23:07.40 | Gnarfoz | zenzelezz: to another successful night of Wikipedia-ing! |
| 23:11.32 | zenzelezz | at least I have had worse afflictions |
| 23:11.41 | zenzelezz | TV Tropes can be even worse |
| 23:22.50 | Maldivia | #Herning2017 ! |
| 23:24.25 | foxlit | #ButWeAlreadyHaveThatIslandAroundHereAnyway |
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