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| 03:15.26 | Stanzilla | @agl__: Chrome will be increasing the minimum DH group size to 1024 bits, although servers should really switch to ECDHE: https://t.co/pSFYSWAT2B |
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| 08:08.38 | bluspacecow | Look Cairenn|afk ! https://twitter.com/CuteEmergency/status/600879125675397120/photo/1 |
| 08:09.32 | Fisker | You can't bluspacecow |
| 08:18.55 | NuSuey | lol https://twitter.com/oliviadgrace/status/600893094851022848 https://twitter.com/oliviadgrace/status/600895193391321088 |
| 08:51.54 | plaw | treants are real mmkay http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2015/05/20/4236600.htm |
| 09:16.16 | bluspacecow | BBL need to do shoppings |
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| 10:48.47 | jleclanche | Lightsail launch in a few hours: http://sail.planetary.org/missioncontrol.php |
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| 11:27.22 | bluspacecow | hihihihihihihihihihi |
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| 11:39.18 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17346427502?page=1#6 |
| 11:39.30 | bluspacecow | I love when I can prod people to finding the solution themselves |
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| 12:19.15 | bluspacecow | swedish cop movie ? http://imgur.com/gallery/mRsLvzt |
| 12:21.11 | bluspacecow | i is hungry. I go in search of foods ! |
| 12:21.25 | Gnarfoz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vttuonfu2BM :D |
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| 12:21.29 | karl_w_w | I'm looking forward to E3 for the first time in my life |
| 12:21.34 | Gnarfoz | very internet, such meme |
| 12:21.50 | karl_w_w | and it's not because of games, it's because oculus rift! |
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| 12:29.27 | karl_w_w | it's more the youbest safety video |
| 12:29.33 | karl_w_w | youtubest |
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| 12:34.58 | Lopeppeppy | Hola, fuzzy pineapples. |
| 12:36.35 | karl_w_w | is that true? |
| 12:37.00 | karl_w_w | this changed everything I thought I knew about myself |
| 12:37.10 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:40.58 | bluspacecow | *fuzzes for Lopeppeppy* |
| 12:41.03 | Lopeppeppy | Gentle on the recovering sick lady. Don't make me hurl again. |
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| 12:43.52 | Fisker | Aw |
| 12:44.42 | Lopeppeppy | Ambulance, ER, and everything! Take stomach viruses seriously. *wise nod* |
| 12:45.03 | bluspacecow | Awwwww |
| 12:45.14 | bluspacecow | *waves rubber chicken over Lopeppeppyâs stomach gently* |
| 12:45.25 | bluspacecow | hey nanny nanny no |
| 12:47.14 | Lopeppeppy | It worked, I'm cured! |
| 12:47.52 | bluspacecow | \o/ |
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| 13:53.50 | znf | wow, I can't believe we lost a hero league game |
| 13:53.56 | znf | we were like 30 kills ahead of them |
| 13:54.00 | znf | 4 levels ahead |
| 13:54.02 | znf | and... we lost |
| 13:55.06 | fewyn | how'd you manage that |
| 13:55.17 | znf | team never pushed |
| 13:55.39 | znf | when we killed 3 of them, they had like 30s rezz timer, keeps were down, and one retard stopped to get mercs... |
| 13:55.45 | znf | and poof |
| 13:57.06 | bluspacecow | gg znf |
| 13:57.10 | karl_w_w | you should play dota instead, nobody stops to get mercs in that game. people sabotage themselves in much more complicated ways! |
| 13:57.19 | znf | dota is a horrible game |
| 13:57.27 | znf | dota is a horrible genre of a game |
| 13:57.29 | znf | mobas suck |
| 14:00.31 | winny | the only moba i play isn't really a moba -- nexus wars for scII |
| 14:01.43 | karl_w_w | horrible znf? |
| 14:02.03 | znf | yes, dota is horrible |
| 14:02.06 | znf | mobas are horrible |
| 14:02.12 | karl_w_w | why? |
| 14:05.02 | znf | because |
| 14:05.28 | Icicle | mobas take up a lot of time |
| 14:05.33 | Icicle | almost as much as WoW :D |
| 14:07.07 | fewyn | i'm not sure how i like the new beta search on reddit |
| 14:08.13 | znf | reddit? search? |
| 14:08.14 | znf | lol |
| 14:08.31 | fewyn | https://www.reddit.com/r/beta/comments/36k0u3/beta_update_519_new_search_page/ |
| 14:09.08 | znf | sorry, reddit has no search |
| 14:09.52 | znf | everyone who ever tried to use that field has concluded that the search on reddit is so useless that you'd better pretend it doesn't exist |
| 14:14.54 | winny | ^ |
| 14:15.00 | winny | i can attest to this |
| 14:37.46 | pompy | zenzelezz: http://www.ulalaunch.com/atlas-v-to-launch-afspc5.aspx |
| 14:37.51 | pompy | soon |
| 14:45.20 | Cairenn|afk | bluspacecow: lol |
| 14:45.31 | bluspacecow | oh hai |
| 14:45.37 | bluspacecow | you go good sleepys ? |
| 14:45.48 | Cairenn | yup |
| 14:45.50 | Cairenn | you? |
| 14:46.09 | bluspacecow | yep |
| 14:57.23 | karl_w_w | can't do this in hots, znf :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lxSgxaxTH8&t=8m |
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| 15:00.38 | pompy | zenzelezz: 5 minutes |
| 15:01.02 | Icicle | karl_w_w: pretty sick counter to medusa late game |
| 15:01.14 | Icicle | but that player... geezus |
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| 15:05.38 | pompy | liftoff! |
| 15:08.02 | karl_w_w | did you know that big bird nearly died in the challenger disaster? |
| 15:13.38 | bluspacecow | interesting |
| 15:13.39 | bluspacecow | https://elisabethsampon.carbonmade.com/projects/5609569#1 |
| 15:13.45 | bluspacecow | nice clean battle.net concept |
| 15:15.05 | Simca | not bad |
| 15:15.25 | Simca | was that commissioned by blizzard or just somebody showing off |
| 15:15.32 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowjuju.com/new-battle-net-client-concept-20150513 |
| 15:15.36 | bluspacecow | the plot thickens .... |
| 15:16.11 | Simca | oic |
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| 15:29.09 | bluspacecow | http://imgur.com/gallery/4r9x7rD |
| 15:29.43 | karl_w_w | It's not really any different to the current bnet client |
| 15:32.27 | bluspacecow | http://imgur.com/gallery/gH2xBjg |
| 15:32.30 | bluspacecow | duckies! |
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| 15:35.36 | Ackis | I love searching for my name and having a hit show up on an unsolved murders page :( |
| 15:36.34 | bluspacecow | ⦠|
| 15:36.38 | Fisker | No wonder they never solved it |
| 15:36.38 | bluspacecow | are you dead mon? |
| 15:36.52 | Fisker | No he was their lead suspect |
| 15:38.02 | Ackis | it was an article about a stabbing where I live and the news people interviewed me for it :P |
| 15:38.16 | Ackis | they even took my picture, told me not to smile though |
| 15:38.27 | Ressy | Ackis.. |
| 15:38.38 | Ressy | I love searching for my name, and finding tons. >.> |
| 15:38.48 | Fisker | Unsolved murders? |
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| 15:39.02 | Ackis | I searched for your name Ressy and added nude to the search terms. I was not disappointed. |
| 15:39.10 | bluspacecow | http://imgur.com/gallery/PQYIDsC |
| 15:39.23 | Ressy | funny. |
| 15:39.26 | Ressy | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/03/oops-major-canadian-isp-admits-throttling-world-of-warcraft/ |
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| 15:39.34 | Ressy | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/03/wait-until-june-for-a-fix-throttled-wow-player-wants-isp-fined/ |
| 15:39.41 | Ressy | http://business.financialpost.com/fp-tech-desk/rogers-vows-to-cease-internet-throttling |
| 15:40.22 | Fisker | Throttling :( |
| 15:40.36 | Ressy | Gone. |
| 15:40.46 | Ressy | Except on satellite and some WISPs. |
| 15:40.52 | Ackis | Not even a going going ogone? |
| 15:42.49 | Fisker | I remember on the european forums there were a lot of people threatening to leave because their ISP was throttling |
| 15:43.18 | Fisker | Or they'd be mad about paying for a VPN to fix it |
| 15:44.37 | Fisker | It's kind of sad they spent so much of their attention on blizzard rather than the ISP |
| 15:47.44 | Ressy | We knew it was Rogers for several reasons. |
| 15:47.50 | Ressy | Blizzard was fine. |
| 15:48.09 | Ressy | There were recent Cisco updates which caused the same problem.. |
| 15:48.23 | Ressy | And all tests came back normal. |
| 15:50.04 | Ressy | no network issues.. |
| 15:50.07 | Ressy | So yeah. |
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| 16:31.06 | Fisker | Oh yeah Ressy |
| 16:31.18 | Fisker | Here they even confirmed it |
| 16:35.34 | Fisker | Or in some cases |
| 16:35.34 | Fisker | I tried explaining them how silly it is that a VPN would be decidedly better if it was blizzard's fault |
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| 16:35.35 | Ressy | People here listened.. Rogers is hated pretty badly. |
| 16:36.17 | Fisker | :) |
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| 16:49.27 | Ackis | yeah gtfo ressy! |
| 16:50.34 | Fisker | :/ |
| 16:50.58 | Ackis | it's ok Fisker, I only talk shit about her when she's not here because I'm afraid of her:( |
| 16:52.09 | bluspacecow | silly mexican |
| 16:53.05 | bluspacecow | have a kitty http://imgur.com/gallery/LbJiT1K |
| 16:54.05 | Unkle | You should be, Ackis. You should be. |
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| 16:59.08 | Shirik | Want to see a company go from booming to failure in 60 seconds? (NSFW) https://twitter.com/FortaCloud/status/600303456440741888 |
| 16:59.57 | Fisker | Yeah old Shirik |
| 17:00.08 | Shirik | 18 may 2015 :( |
| 17:00.33 | Semlar | 50% shirik |
| 17:00.38 | Semlar | 50% off |
| 17:00.39 | Fisker | <3 |
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| 17:01.01 | Fisker | 50% off cloud stuff, here look at lewd pictures |
| 17:05.12 | Ackis | tbh the pics made me sign up for 10 years paid in advance |
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| 17:23.51 | karl_w_w | I don't get it Shirik |
| 17:24.32 | Fisker | karl_w_w works there was pr apparently |
| 17:25.51 | karl_w_w | it's a stupid ad, and it's insanity to post it on twitter, but I don't see how it's sexist |
| 17:26.32 | Semlar | yeah, they should have put the text on the picture! |
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| 17:35.28 | Simca | if I was them I'd post kitten pictures with every sale |
| 17:35.34 | Simca | much less offensive |
| 17:35.37 | Simca | much more kittens |
| 17:35.40 | Simca | win/win |
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| 17:47.11 | bluspacecow | http://grey2scale.itch.io/garbage-cat |
| 17:48.10 | Gnarfoz | yay, another month, another crypto problem: https://weakdh.org/ >_> |
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| 17:51.02 | nevcairiel | thats not a "bug" though, just shows how weak those encryptions are |
| 17:51.35 | nevcairiel | elliptic curves ftw |
| 17:52.06 | Gnarfoz | it's a problem stemming from an intentional limitation in many implementations, I'd say |
| 17:52.29 | Gnarfoz | I doubt anyone is calling it a bug :D |
| 17:55.50 | Gnarfoz | good thing our stuff is not vulnerable \o/ |
| 17:55.53 | nevcairiel | well just that many previous crypto problems were software bugs |
| 17:56.04 | nevcairiel | no DH for you? :d |
| 17:56.18 | Gnarfoz | sure, but that doesn't make the corollary (sp?) true, either ;) |
| 17:56.28 | Gnarfoz | nah, 2048b |
| 17:56.38 | Gnarfoz | and 4096b for my personal stuff, haha |
| 17:56.56 | nevcairiel | thats not for the cert strength, the DH strength is something else |
| 17:57.21 | Gnarfoz | I picked the dhparams according to the key length of the certs, though |
| 17:57.38 | Gnarfoz | which Apache also does automagically, so there must be some connection there? |
| 17:57.50 | Gnarfoz | haven't read it thoroughly enough to understand it all, yet, just put in my hostnames to check ^^ |
| 17:57.51 | nevcairiel | and presumably a bunch of software cannot handle DH keys over 1024, or so some google post claimed |
| 18:00.21 | Gnarfoz | meaning it looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/Ktf8pY0.png |
| 18:00.47 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I don't even want to know what the settings on $otherstuff might be that uses TLS (or probably: SSL :D) |
| 18:03.23 | nevcairiel | according to that site, i need to generate a special DHParams file with a 2048 group, which despite having a 4096 cert apache didnt do |
| 18:03.41 | Gnarfoz | what does the checker say? |
| 18:03.50 | nevcairiel | This site uses a commonly-shared 1024-bit Diffie-Hellman Group, and might be in range of being broken by a nation-state. It might be a good idea to generate a unique, 2048-bit group for the site. |
| 18:03.54 | Gnarfoz | huh. |
| 18:04.05 | Gnarfoz | I don't recall doing that manually for my Apache, but maybe I'm misremembering. |
| 18:04.14 | nevcairiel | SSLOpenSSLConfCmd DHParameters "{path to dhparams.pem}" |
| 18:04.29 | nevcairiel | thats what would be there somewhere |
| 18:04.31 | nevcairiel | apparently |
| 18:05.43 | Gnarfoz | is your Apache old, maybe? |
| 18:09.02 | nevcairiel | 2.2.29, so not 2.4, yea |
| 18:10.26 | Gnarfoz | yeah, 2.2 doesn't do what I described, I think |
| 18:13.16 | Gnarfoz | https://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1542327 yep 2.4.7 introduced that |
| 18:14.09 | nevcairiel | i see |
| 18:14.11 | nevcairiel | should upgrade maybe |
| 18:14.20 | nevcairiel | not tht there is anything of importance on my server |
| 18:15.38 | Gnarfoz | I wonder what Quassel does, for example |
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| 18:21.21 | nevcairiel | should be possible to run such a tool on that if it allows custom ports |
| 18:21.25 | nevcairiel | ssl handshake is the same |
| 18:21.27 | Gnarfoz | it's probably time to hide everything behind a reverse proxy, even stuff that could do TLS itself, so I can have single point of configuration |
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| 18:34.37 | fewyn | so i need a jabber client, any suggestions on one that might not suck? |
| 18:42.22 | Primer | I presume you mean XMPP |
| 18:42.39 | Primer | If so, I use pidgin. Can't say it's great, but it works. |
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| 18:56.32 | pompy | I use Pidgin to connect to Facebook Chat which is XMPP. |
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| 18:59.28 | kullervo | master plan could display the # of bonus followers, like 3/3 100% instead of 120g 100% :| |
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| 19:00.06 | bluspacecow | and ships from your fleet |
| 19:00.08 | bluspacecow | in |
| 19:00.12 | bluspacecow | 6.2 |
| 19:00.14 | bluspacecow | :P |
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| 19:18.20 | zenzelezz | this whole "Allow Flash to auto update" or whatever the setting was called, seems somewhat moot, since all it seems to do now is open the damn download page |
| 19:27.42 | zenzelezz | are there any common (desktop) CPUs these days that are still 32-bit (no 64-bit support)? |
| 19:30.10 | nevcairiel | there are some Atom CPUs which do not do 64-bit which are not super-ancient (from 2008-10), but if those count you can decide |
| 19:32.11 | zenzelezz | I had forgotten about those; think I even had one back then |
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| 19:57.35 | Icicle | Games from your childhood that would be cool as MMOs, Go. |
| 19:57.44 | Icicle | Donkey Kong Country. |
| 19:59.38 | zenzelezz | sometimes I come across code that isn't technically wrong, but that feels "wrong"... like "if ((amount > 0) == false)" og "if (string.IsNullOrEmpty(str) == true)" |
| 20:00.49 | nevcairiel | some devs like being explicit in boolean comparisons, it looks weird but some just do that |
| 20:01.10 | Maldivia | (amount > 0) == false is just confusing |
| 20:01.32 | Icicle | this ain't for you kids, this is a bools bool. |
| 20:01.54 | Icicle | get it? :D (has been kicked from channel) |
| 20:02.07 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: yeah; nothing wrong about it |
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| 20:24.51 | karl_w_w | I can't think of any games full stop that would be cool as MMOs |
| 20:25.24 | nevcairiel | any game with an established large-ish universe has the potential for it |
| 20:25.44 | karl_w_w | sure, potential |
| 20:26.16 | karl_w_w | but to be 'cool' as an MMO it would have to be better as an MMO, or at least not worse |
| 20:26.36 | Icicle | Example: Warcraft3 went MMO |
| 20:26.47 | Icicle | so you can bend some rules about the core gameplay |
| 20:27.05 | Icicle | Lara Croft tomb raider for example, but more than just the main female lead we all know :) |
| 20:27.08 | foxlit | does it really matter who tells you to kill 15 rats? |
| 20:27.08 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: "I can't think of any games. That would be cool as MMOs"? |
| 20:27.08 | karl_w_w | oh I know |
| 20:27.17 | karl_w_w | micro machines |
| 20:27.52 | Icicle | What if its not about killing rats foxlit ? |
| 20:28.19 | Icicle | karl_w_w: micro machines would be interesting, how would you go about it? |
| 20:28.36 | karl_w_w | I wouldn't, I'd let game devs do it :P |
| 20:28.54 | foxlit | most things are about killing rats, Icicle. |
| 20:29.03 | p3lim | Semlar: I can't change glyphs with AutoConfirmTalents |
| 20:29.15 | Semlar | what |
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| 20:29.27 | Semlar | i'm quite sure that worked before i uploaded it |
| 20:29.42 | Icicle | foxlit: doesn't need to be, thats just only whats been popularized so far |
| 20:29.51 | foxlit | one job, semlar. one. job. |
| 20:29.56 | Semlar | i swear it worked! |
| 20:29.59 | karl_w_w | I can imagine races and events and things |
| 20:30.05 | p3lim | Semlar: I'll do some research |
| 20:30.14 | karl_w_w | and you can build and improve your cars |
| 20:30.19 | Semlar | maybe there's more than one glyph prompt |
| 20:30.37 | Semlar | can you at least right click on the glyph |
| 20:30.43 | Semlar | to remove it |
| 20:30.56 | karl_w_w | it would have to be set somewhere that can contain all the different locations |
| 20:31.18 | Semlar | or is it like tainted and blocking you from doing anything |
| 20:31.24 | p3lim | Semlar: Yeah I can remove one, but I can't apply anything |
| 20:31.28 | p3lim | No taints |
| 20:31.39 | Semlar | screenshot? |
| 20:31.57 | p3lim | Not much to see, but sure |
| 20:32.13 | p3lim | Oh crap I found out why |
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| 20:32.25 | Semlar | are you out of things |
| 20:32.25 | p3lim | I already had that glyph active >_< |
| 20:32.50 | Semlar | p3liiiiiiim |
| 20:32.55 | p3lim | :D |
| 20:33.06 | zenzelezz | I've totally never done things like that |
| 20:33.11 | Semlar | how dare you make me question myself |
| 20:33.40 | p3lim | Honest mistake though, I just swapped to a spec I haven't touched since before christmas |
| 20:34.04 | Semlar | doesn't it tell you you already have the glyph equipped |
| 20:34.13 | foxlit | error blindness. |
| 20:35.53 | p3lim | I've disabled all errors |
| 20:36.30 | Semlar | that's my approach to solving errors |
| 20:36.47 | foxlit | "on error resume next" |
| 20:36.54 | p3lim | Was easier than to filter out a huge list of them |
| 20:36.55 | Semlar | just hide them all |
| 20:36.57 | Icicle | karl_w_w: would you go 3D or go retro 2D? |
| 20:37.42 | karl_w_w | 3D for sure |
| 20:37.57 | karl_w_w | like the remake that came out |
| 20:38.30 | karl_w_w | http://store.steampowered.com/app/287260/ |
| 20:39.37 | Icicle | damn this is nostalgic |
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| 22:16.00 | Stanzilla | Kesava: foxlit 's M6 |
| 22:16.12 | Kesava | this is the wrong channel |
| 22:16.41 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:17.11 | Kesava | wait what do you mean M6 |
| 22:17.19 | Stanzilla | the addon name |
| 22:17.25 | Stanzilla | and the channel switch was intentional |
| 22:17.31 | Kesava | i cannot find an addon of that name |
| 22:17.33 | Stanzilla | because foxlit is here and not there, and I forgot the url |
| 22:17.57 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:18.06 | Stanzilla | well that was easy |
| 22:19.11 | Kesava | wait so what |
| 22:19.15 | Kesava | that video does not explain anything |
| 22:19.19 | Stanzilla | or http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/talentmacros if that is already enough for you |
| 22:21.29 | foxlit | what was the original context, anyway? |
| 22:21.41 | Stanzilla | 00:09:34 â Kesava: I NEED AN ADDON |
| 22:21.42 | Stanzilla | 00:09:49 â Kesava: which will store sets of macros. not in a useable fasion, just for talent switching |
| 22:21.42 | Stanzilla | 00:10:05 â Kesava: so that i don't have to write them all trying to check which spec i'm in |
| 22:21.42 | Stanzilla | 00:10:09 â Kesava: in an attempt to save macro slots |
| 22:22.18 | Kesava | well the problem is that I don't have enough macro slots to save macros for shadow, disc AND holy |
| 22:22.40 | Kesava | AND for talent differences |
| 22:23.01 | Kesava | so i want a macro which does something specific when i'm shadow, but i also want it to do something different for both disc and holy |
| 22:23.10 | Kesava | and there's only [spec:1] and [spec:2] |
| 22:23.10 | Kesava | etc |
| 22:23.14 | foxlit | m6 is surprisingly relevant, then. |
| 22:23.45 | foxlit | you get per-spec macros rather than global/per-character macros |
| 22:23.52 | Kesava | i see |
| 22:23.57 | foxlit | those macros have virtually unlimited length |
| 22:24.16 | Kesava | .. and you can put them on the normal action bars? |
| 22:24.22 | foxlit | and [spec:] takes a spec name instead of a dual spec index. |
| 22:24.33 | foxlit | that, I believe, is shown in the video. |
| 22:24.38 | Kesava | well yeah but |
| 22:24.46 | Kesava | that's a limitation of non-default macros, usually |
| 22:24.47 | Kesava | right? |
| 22:24.56 | Kesava | since they can only refer to macros by index or something |
| 22:25.14 | Kesava | so M6 is pretty much what i've always wanted if that's the case |
| 22:25.59 | foxlit | it manages default macros to reroute actual execution elsewhere, so yes, you can put those on your action bars. |
| 22:26.22 | Kesava | I see |
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| 22:27.45 | Stanzilla | foxlit: m6 is surprisingly relevant, then. < seeeee sometimes I'm useful! |
| 22:29.14 | Constie | Stanzilla is a true hero. |
| 22:33.39 | foxlit | (it *might* be slightly overkill, though) |
| 22:33.53 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:37.04 | Kesava | well ty foxlit and Stanzilla |
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| 22:43.30 | Stanzilla | np |
| 22:54.11 | Kesava | foxlit: [talent:] also takes a talent name, yes? |
| 22:54.31 | foxlit | no; https://www.townlong-yak.com/opie/extended-conditionals |
| 22:54.38 | Kesava | ah |
| 22:54.43 | foxlit | or, hey, yes. |
| 22:55.00 | Kesava | indeed |
| 22:55.01 | Kesava | ty :D |
| 23:04.49 | foxlit | annoyingly, it breaks [btn:] |
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| 23:08.06 | foxlit | ah well, can fix it later. |
| 23:08.39 | Kesava | iiis there a cap on how many macros you can make in it? |
| 23:13.19 | foxlit | only ~150 can be assigned to action bars at a time. |
| 23:13.37 | Kesava | that is quite enough |
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| 23:17.17 | foxlit | you would need to update to get around the practical limit of 8, though. |
| 23:17.52 | foxlit | also in "town job ice nearby": you can optionally name those things, and use /runmacro with those names. |
| 23:18.36 | Kesava | well those are the exact things i was missing |
| 23:18.37 | Kesava | so um. ty. |
| 23:20.09 | foxlit | no problem. It bears emphasizing that this is rather experimental, unpolished, and perhaps exorbitantly expensive. |
| 23:26.09 | Kesava | a bug! |
| 23:26.14 | Kesava | [spec] doesn't work. at all. |
| 23:26.24 | Kesava | well it does work, but it works using blizzard's values, not yours |
| 23:27.09 | Kesava | so "at all" is hugely incorrect |
| 23:27.59 | foxlit | could you include the macro? |
| 23:28.53 | Kesava | Well let's just say: /cast [spec:shadow] Mind Blast |
| 23:28.58 | Kesava | That doesn't work |
| 23:29.14 | Kesava | [spec:1] does |
| 23:29.31 | Kesava | (shadow is not ID 1, and I checked with spec:258, that also doesn't work) |
| 23:32.09 | foxlit | Kesava: could you /reload? |
| 23:32.32 | Kesava | yes, also logged in/out, didn't fix it |
| 23:37.13 | foxlit | oh, that's evil. mind flay overrides smite. |
| 23:40.03 | foxlit | Kesava: shadow specifically is broken because it tries to detect it by checking whether you know a spell that the client apparently insists you don't. |
| 23:40.28 | Kesava | I see! |
| 23:52.53 | Semlar | updates to foxlit 2.0 |
| 23:57.26 | foxlit | Kesava: should work now. |
| 23:57.53 | Kesava | never snake they rhyme. |
