| 00:04.45 | plaw | STRAYA!!! http://www.theage.com.au/environment/animals/winston-the-python-has-barbecue-tongs-surgically-removed-20150514-gh23v2.html |
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| 02:28.12 | Arrowmaster | google phone support is pretty damn good |
| 02:28.19 | Arrowmaster | for wallet at least |
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| 02:32.41 | Arrowmaster | a friend just posted 'Dear future employers: I was born after 1990. I can use a computer, please ffs stop making me list "microsoft office" as a skill. ' and I replied with "I still have DOS listed on my resume...... I'm not sure you even know what that is." |
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| 02:48.28 | A-KO | Arrowmaster: The sad part is |
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| 02:48.35 | A-KO | I know a lot of people at work that don't actually know how to use Microsoft Office |
| 02:48.36 | A-KO | literally |
| 02:48.38 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v alestane] by ChanServ |
| 02:48.49 | A-KO | I am actually going to spend time tomorrow writing instructions ON HOW TO SCHEDULE FUCKING MEETING ROOMS |
| 02:50.01 | Arrowmaster | i had to take an excel simulation test when interviewing for the new job, i guess i passed it even though i was mostly following xkcd.com/627 since I've never really used office 07 or newer |
| 02:50.58 | A-KO | I mean |
| 02:51.07 | A-KO | Office has had conference rooms support since....Outlook first came out? |
| 02:51.40 | A-KO | 15 god damn years later |
| 03:04.28 | Arrowmaster | A-KO: there was a post on r/talesfromtechsupport about a guy just recently teaching teachers at a school about copy and paste |
| 03:09.01 | pompy | Arrowmaster: nice, havent used wallet yet...i contacted paypal yesterday because my account was limited and the dude cleared up my situation with ease! was pretty pleased. |
| 03:12.23 | Arrowmaster | yeah they needed extra documents from me but i didnt have a way to upload them so when i called she just had me reply to an email they sent me and called their specialsts for me and called me back when ever she had an update for me |
| 03:13.20 | Arrowmaster | eventually they said the scan of my drivers license was no good now because it expires in 28 days which is less than the 30 days they require, so i had to scan the new one i just got 2 days ago |
| 03:14.14 | Arrowmaster | she must have been working on my case for 3 hours waiting in their internal queue to talk to specialists and just occasionally calling me to keep me updated and ask me for stuff after each step |
| 03:14.18 | Arrowmaster | top notch service |
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| 03:49.49 | pompy | Arrowmaster: nice, well thats what paypal wanted from me but he lifted the limitation without em. |
| 03:50.50 | Arrowmaster | all i had to do way back when i had shit tones of money coming in from curse was to link both a bank account and credit card i think to remove the $500 a month limit |
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| 04:19.03 | Dagmar | A-KO: I started in one of the tests at TrueAbility the other night. The fact that one of my friends was saying the highest the people in his office had gotten on one of them was 67 makes me despair |
| 04:19.17 | Dagmar | I'm probably going to just go do a shitton of them this weekend |
| 04:19.28 | Dagmar | Replace all the text in my resume with the scores. |
| 04:22.05 | Stanzilla | so the author of http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/dailyazeroth just took a ton of pills and now people are sending the emergency guys to her house |
| 04:22.11 | Stanzilla | o.o |
| 04:22.40 | Dagmar | Were they notified by easter egg or something? |
| 04:22.49 | Stanzilla | twitter |
| 04:22.52 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 04:23.08 | Stanzilla | https://twitter.com/Kruithne/status/599016400418635776 |
| 04:23.16 | Dagmar | HOpefully they'll get her sorted in time |
| 04:23.40 | Dagmar | ...that is if the cops don't shoot her |
| 04:24.08 | Ressy | its the UK.. |
| 04:24.13 | Dagmar | Good. |
| 04:27.10 | Ressy | https://twitter.com/TradeChat/status/599066824727212034 |
| 04:33.12 | Arrowmaster | luckly she gives out lots of personal information in the internet to make that possible |
| 04:33.31 | Arrowmaster | if i ever pulled that nobody would have a clue who to contact |
| 04:34.13 | Dagmar | It's nice that you assume they'd look. |
| 04:34.15 | Dagmar | ;) |
| 04:34.47 | Dagmar | Of course, if I posted that I just took a bunch of pills, I have a lot of friends whose response would be "W00h00! PARTY TIEM!" |
| 04:34.48 | Arrowmaster | which is why i know better than to ever do that |
| 04:34.56 | Dagmar | Such fiends. |
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| 04:37.48 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: last weekend i had to drive my date home while she was tripping on edibles she got when we had to leave the party to goto a friends place :~ |
| 04:39.02 | Arrowmaster | i kept being offered stuff but i dont do that anymore and was still waiting to get a everything is ok on the preemployment test, would absolutely suck to here back that they fucked up at the lab and need another sample |
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| 04:56.03 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: i still have your cell, if it didnt change since 2010 |
| 05:04.08 | Stanzilla | there you go |
| 05:04.12 | Stanzilla | sherlock jerome got you covered |
| 05:17.53 | Dagmar | heh |
| 05:30.51 | Mr_Rabies | geez, zam/wowhead is down to a total skeleton crew now :( |
| 05:31.34 | Mr_Rabies | it's pretty much consistently gone downhill since their sell-off to tencent |
| 05:32.13 | Stanzilla | I heard they fired a lot of people today |
| 05:32.16 | Stanzilla | anyone know why? |
| 05:32.30 | Dagmar | Why do you need coders once the code is all written? |
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| 05:33.04 | Mr_Rabies | they got rid of just about all of their community folks |
| 05:33.08 | Mr_Rabies | their artists |
| 05:33.42 | Mr_Rabies | i think the only people for left are erorus and perculia, but i'm not sure about erorus 100% |
| 05:34.11 | Mr_Rabies | they got rid of a bunch of folks a little under a year ago, too |
| 05:36.21 | Mr_Rabies | also: i really hate doing garrison missions with <100%, they always seem to fail :( |
| 05:40.15 | jleclanche | cant have slashes, tildes or dollar signs in my password |
| 05:40.26 | jleclanche | thanks for being at the forefront of banking security, HSBC |
| 05:41.43 | Dagmar | No, that's not a warning sign of any kind at all. |
| 05:42.08 | Dagmar | God forbid people actually handle their data encapsulation properly. |
| 05:42.29 | Dagmar | Still, it could be worse. |
| 05:42.42 | Dagmar | Sprint requires your account name to have a number in it. |
| 05:42.48 | Dagmar | *eyeroll* |
| 05:43.09 | jleclanche | I really want to see a bank that doesnt suck, online |
| 05:43.34 | Dagmar | I'm seriously considering switching most of my stuff to Google Wallet |
| 05:43.52 | Dagmar | They even have a card that just _screams_ "I am a dot-commie," |
| 05:44.02 | jleclanche | US only |
| 05:44.25 | Dagmar | Still more secure than the bullshit the US is about to switch to |
| 05:44.44 | jleclanche | oh yeah im just saying it doesnt help my case :P |
| 05:44.53 | Dagmar | If i'm still floating in another month, I'm seriously considering doing a presentation on just how useless the new US card standard is |
| 05:45.23 | Dagmar | It's not like using a card that costs $12 to make as opposed to $4 is going to break anyone |
| 05:46.10 | Dagmar | The new "smarter" credit cards are basically about as intelligent as a $1.50 NFC tag. |
| 05:46.45 | Dagmar | They have the opportunity to switch over to using a card that can actually do a proper cryptographic challenge and response, and they're muffing it |
| 05:47.36 | Dagmar | WoW's login code is more secure. |
| 05:50.11 | jleclanche | Dagmar: i hope you dont mean the old wow login code |
| 05:50.19 | jleclanche | the one with the case-insensitive passwords. |
| 05:50.37 | jleclanche | case-insensitive, *truncated* passwords. |
| 05:52.13 | Dagmar | No, I mean that it uses ZKP. |
| 05:52.21 | Dagmar | ...which the new CC system does _not_ use |
| 05:52.49 | Mr_Rabies | my guild too uses zebra kill points |
| 05:53.13 | Mr_Rabies | kill an actual zebra, post the location, and the lions that run the thing will give you priority on loot |
| 05:54.05 | Dagmar | Zero-Knowledge Proof |
| 05:54.27 | Dagmar | i.e., how you can test the other party knows a secret without actually having to reveal it |
| 05:54.34 | Mr_Rabies | i figured it was some cryptography thing i just tabbed in and my first thought was "what could the z stand for" |
| 05:58.30 | jleclanche | Uncaught ReferenceError: ga is not definedClass.extend._track @ wallet.2zjUL.js:531(anonymous function) @ wallet.2zjUL.js:320f.event.dispatch @ jquery-1.7.1.min.0vCiz.js?v=58-28:3h.handle.i @ jquery-1.7.1.min.0vCiz.js?v=58-28:3f.event.trigger @ jquery-1.7.1.min.0vCiz.js?v=58-28:3(anonymous function) @ jquery-1.7.1.min.0vCiz.js?v=58-28:3e.extend.each @ jquery-1.7.1.min.0vCiz.js?v=58-28:2e.fn.e.each @ jquery-1.7.1.min.0vCiz.js?v=58-28:2f.fn.extend. |
| 05:58.30 | jleclanche | trigger @ jquery-1.7.1.min.0vCiz.js?v=58-28:3f.fn.(anonymous function) @ jquery-1.7.1.min.0vCiz.js?v=58-28:3UI.buttons.bind.click @ bam.3y30e.js?v=58-28:228f.event.dispatch @ jquery-1.7.1.min.0vCiz.js?v=58-28:3h.handle.i @ jquery-1.7.1.min.0vCiz.js?v=58-28:3 |
| 05:58.32 | jleclanche | woh |
| 05:58.34 | jleclanche | wrong window |
| 05:58.44 | Semlar | tries to calm jleclanche down |
| 05:58.59 | jleclanche | I'M CALM GO AWAY |
| 05:59.14 | Semlar | calming intensifies |
| 06:10.57 | jleclanche | i wish the wine bnet launcher bugs would be fixed :( |
| 06:15.18 | NuSuey | which ones? |
| 06:17.16 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 06:17.26 | Shirik | CA Senate passed the vaccine exemption elimination law |
| 06:17.33 | Shirik | \o/ |
| 06:19.42 | jleclanche | NuSuey: https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37885 basically |
| 06:19.59 | jleclanche | having to constantly his update after every launch |
| 06:20.11 | NuSuey | ah |
| 06:20.52 | NuSuey | i run the game directly instead of launching it via launcher |
| 06:21.54 | jleclanche | yeah but then you have to log in :p |
| 06:22.03 | jleclanche | which is a pain in the arse for me and my autogenerated password |
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| 06:28.15 | NuSuey | well.. thats your problem :P |
| 06:29.42 | Stanzilla | jleclanche: don't you c&p from a pwd manager? |
| 06:30.07 | jleclanche | Stanzilla: yes but its bugged with wine |
| 06:30.26 | Stanzilla | fun |
| 06:32.23 | NuSuey | set a NORMAL password..mission accomplished |
| 06:32.37 | NuSuey | :P |
| 06:33.06 | jleclanche | NuSuey: a normal password is a password I don't myself know; you're the abberration |
| 06:34.20 | NuSuey | example: NuSueyISawesome#666 |
| 06:34.34 | NuSuey | perfect |
| 06:34.38 | NuSuey | and easy to remember |
| 06:34.43 | NuSuey | and truthful |
| 06:38.29 | jleclanche | alright that's it, hsbc is pissing me off |
| 06:38.32 | jleclanche | how do i start a bank |
| 06:41.29 | Mr_Rabies | start baguettecoins |
| 06:44.45 | jleclanche | excellent idea |
| 06:46.23 | Fisker | Just 420 Nordea it jleclanche |
| 06:46.55 | jleclanche | nordea doesn't suck any less than hsbc, looked into them |
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| 06:48.29 | Mr_Rabies | keep all your money in jewely so you can pawn it if you have to |
| 06:48.36 | Mr_Rabies | jewelry* |
| 06:49.07 | Dagmar | ...or just convert it to gold and bury it properly. |
| 06:49.31 | Dagmar | ...or bet money on unexpected Comcast outages, and retire. |
| 06:55.24 | jleclanche | Dagmar: there's *unexpected* comcast outages? |
| 06:55.32 | jleclanche | or did you just typo outrages? |
| 06:56.58 | Dagmar | No, but it works either way. |
| 06:57.17 | Dagmar | They're calling me on a weekly basis now trying to get me to upgrade to a new modem |
| 06:57.38 | Mr_Rabies | at&t's basically taken to threatening me to upgrade to uverse |
| 06:57.44 | jleclanche | tell them you'll only upgrade if you get the latest version of mcaffee 2015 installed on it |
| 06:57.47 | Dagmar | I would simply rather the service stay up |
| 06:57.49 | Mr_Rabies | if i don't call them by a certain date, i may get a "temporary outage" |
| 06:58.08 | Mr_Rabies | also if you're renting a modem you should buy one dagmar |
| 06:58.15 | Dagmar | I bought one years ago |
| 06:58.19 | Mr_Rabies | for like $60 you can get a ballin' motorola |
| 06:58.20 | Mr_Rabies | ah |
| 06:58.31 | Dagmar | Of course, that didn't stop them from trying to charge me for renting it _five times_ last year |
| 06:58.35 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 06:58.45 | Dagmar | Yeah we went around and around about that one |
| 06:59.01 | Dagmar | I wound up escalating to the Court of Public Outrage on that one |
| 06:59.42 | Dagmar | It was actually a key factor in an argument I had with them about six years ago, when they pushed out a firmware update that *turned off the already-crippled management interface*. |
| 07:00.15 | Dagmar | My completely reaonable (and legally backed) viewpoint is that it's *my* equipment and they're not allowed to make material changes to it of that nature. |
| 07:00.29 | Dagmar | They got it re-enabled pretty quickly after that. |
| 07:00.49 | Dagmar | 'cuz since I'm a giant-ass nerd, I have detailed MRTG-generated graphs of what it's doing. |
| 07:01.38 | Dagmar | So, them telling me I need to upgrade to take advantage of their faster speeds doesn't really bear much weight with me since I know it seldom even saturates what *this* modem is capable of |
| 07:02.24 | Dagmar | LOL I should send them my resume with a note that says, "If you want a chance in hell of surviving Google Fiber, hire me." |
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| 07:03.35 | Dagmar | It's _absolutely_ coming to Nashville. We all just got free t-shirts. :) |
| 07:03.54 | Dagmar | When I get mine I'm going to put it on and go play Ingress right in front of the bat building. |
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| 08:46.16 | PsyTech | So as a thought experiment, is it possible to alter the default wow lua in any way? |
| 08:47.24 | PsyTech | or is that compiled into the client? |
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| 08:53.22 | nevcairiel | it is not possible without violating all sorts of things that you agree'ed to when installing the game |
| 08:53.52 | PsyTech | ah, damn :P |
| 08:56.26 | PsyTech | one thing in the default ui is working to my advantage, and one thing isn't. |
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| 08:57.20 | Gnarfoz | the UI is plenty changable |
| 08:57.44 | Gnarfoz | your wording made it sound you wanted to change the Lua interpreter or something |
| 08:58.01 | PsyTech | So this line is killing me: elseif ( MerchantFrame:IsShown() and MerchantFrame.selectedTab == 1 ) then |
| 08:58.18 | PsyTech | was trying to see if that was changed to ~= 2 |
| 08:58.22 | PsyTech | if that fixed my problem |
| 09:00.15 | nevcairiel | sometimes you can hook functions and overwrite their behaviour from your UI, with more or less success depending on how the function interacts with everythign else |
| 09:01.02 | PsyTech | yeah, it's weird. I was able to RawHook and got it to work, but when I showToolTip my cursor doesn't stick |
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| 10:14.44 | karl_w_w | I'm so proud http://i.imgur.com/vrs1gTg.png |
| 10:23.41 | Gnarfoz | whatever the hell that means |
| 10:23.57 | Gnarfoz | 9 seconds of what |
| 10:24.16 | nevcairiel | 9 seconds of fame |
| 10:24.20 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 10:24.30 | karl_w_w | http://www.reddit.com/r/thebutton/ |
| 10:25.51 | Gnarfoz | ?! :D |
| 10:26.17 | nevcairiel | it goes down into single digits quite often these days |
| 10:27.36 | Xinhuan | i have a "59s" flair and i am proud of it |
| 10:27.38 | Gnarfoz | is that supposed to make some sense? |
| 10:27.46 | nevcairiel | not really, no |
| 10:28.59 | Gnarfoz | I have a red 9s thingy, too, now |
| 10:29.02 | Gnarfoz | great? |
| 10:29.12 | nevcairiel | good job |
| 10:29.28 | nevcairiel | i thought i had a reddit account, but apparently i dont |
| 10:30.36 | Gnarfoz | heh, I had the opposite revelation a while back... thought I didn't have one, but I did |
| 10:30.59 | nevcairiel | you have been trolling the keyboard reddit for a long time now, or so it feels |
| 10:31.18 | Gnarfoz | I made, like, 2 posts, total |
| 10:31.18 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 10:31.32 | Gnarfoz | and I think I created the account to be able to upvote some mmoc posts |
| 10:31.34 | Gnarfoz | or something |
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| 11:02.17 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/3kDqX |
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| 11:46.21 | Gnarfoz | anyone know if there's some subreddit I could post this to to get more opinions? http://imgur.com/gallery/giljS ^^ |
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| 11:58.03 | Kalroth | is that a selfie, Gnarfoz |
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| 12:16.27 | bluipodcow | ~sc2alert |
| 12:16.47 | bluipodcow | ~d3alert |
| 12:16.47 | purl | http://us.launcher.battle.net/service/d3/alert/en-us (US) or http://eu.launcher.battle.net/service/d3/alert/en-gb (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
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| 12:26.16 | karl_w_w | good old blu, always the most alert person |
| 12:26.38 | bluipodcow | Is Starcraft 2 up guise |
| 12:26.57 | karl_w_w | I don't know |
| 12:27.02 | karl_w_w | guise of the wolf |
| 12:27.10 | bluipodcow | Lol |
| 12:46.23 | WrathTECH | Coulnd't Blizz stagget the maintenence... so that if WoW is down we can play D3 and vice versa? :/ |
| 12:47.24 | bluipodcow | Your assuming the issue isn't game wide. |
| 12:48.06 | bluipodcow | And that the issue they needed to bring it down for isn't urgent |
| 12:48.08 | WrathTECH | Yes, and your point? They could tell us whats going on at least |
| 12:48.13 | bluipodcow | Nope |
| 12:48.18 | bluipodcow | They don't need to |
| 12:48.54 | WrathTECH | They don't need to. But would sure be helpful if they did. |
| 12:50.40 | bluipodcow | Waste of time IMHO. They they would have all those armchair server admins advising blizzard at what they should of done. As well as idiots going "what's that mean?" |
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| 12:55.45 | bluipodcow | Although it's funny seeing people attempt to argue that scheduled maintenance should mean only on a Tuesday |
| 12:56.00 | WrathTECH | That's for sure. |
| 12:56.08 | WrathTECH | As if the world is a perfect world. |
| 12:56.43 | WrathTECH | "The world spins on a tilted axis, just doing the best that it can." -Hoenheim of Light |
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| 13:18.23 | Jamash | Moo. |
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| 13:26.35 | Jamash | Mooo. |
| 13:28.00 | Ressy | baaaaaaah |
| 13:28.12 | Ressy | We're making random barnyard animal sounds right? :P |
| 13:38.18 | Gnarfoz | Kalroth: I am relieved to say that my browser has not become self-aware and has not started taking pictures of itself and posting them on imgur |
| 13:38.47 | Gnarfoz | ... as far as I know |
| 13:47.21 | Fisker | Meow Ressy |
| 13:53.14 | karl_w_w | cluck cluck |
| 13:53.31 | karl_w_w | actually managed a barnyard animal |
| 14:22.01 | znf | It's interesting to see how the token price drops on EU after the banwave |
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| 14:23.10 | nevcairiel | price has been oddly stable |
| 14:23.31 | nevcairiel | wonder if blizzard changed something on the algorithm |
| 14:23.36 | nevcairiel | since the stability is in all regions |
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| 14:33.16 | karl_w_w | i really need to get the shit out of my music library |
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| 15:23.18 | karl_w_w | http://www.radiolab.org/story/radiolab-live-telltale-hearts-featuring-oliver-sacks/ |
| 15:23.25 | karl_w_w | I seriously fucking love radiolab |
| 15:23.29 | karl_w_w | it's so powerful |
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| 15:29.00 | Jamash | Ressy: Nope. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/19083832/ |
| 15:30.34 | Gnarfoz | make sure to click the "helmet/face" on top of the blog for the video |
| 15:31.43 | Ressy | oh my. looks fun |
| 15:32.18 | Gnarfoz | I veal find out soon |
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| 15:49.08 | bluipodcow | So we have a reason for the Friday night outage on US wow |
| 15:50.01 | bluipodcow | Auth servers needed new hardware. They were waiting on it to arrive and the upgrade had to be done as soon as the servers arrived |
| 15:50.29 | bluipodcow | So we were probably running on the redundant backup servers until they arrived |
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| 16:03.16 | Gnarfoz | how does "running on backup servers" an outage? |
| 16:03.22 | Gnarfoz | or am I missing something |
| 16:03.34 | Gnarfoz | also, today is Friday, do you mean Thursday? |
| 16:04.21 | Gnarfoz | also, bluipodcow, I don't think you should judge my choice of seating while I admin my servers! :D |
| 16:05.15 | Dagmar | There can be only One (master database) |
| 16:05.24 | Dagmar | ...or maybe someone over there is convinced of that |
| 16:06.12 | Dagmar | I can no longer vouch for the functionality of any engineer's brain without proof |
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| 16:08.49 | bluipodcow | Maybe they're with |
| 16:09.04 | bluipodcow | They can only be 2 , a master and an apprentice |
| 16:09.13 | bluipodcow | *Sith |
| 16:09.58 | Dagmar | So you're saying the downtime was caused by them starting the apprentice instances, which killed the master instances, and someone didn't have the load redirector set to change targets quickly enough? |
| 16:12.21 | pompy | bluipodcow: microsoft xbl servers were down too last night |
| 16:13.06 | Arrowmaster | stupid amazon app store |
| 16:13.23 | pompy | that too |
| 16:13.28 | Arrowmaster | it failed to update hearthstone for some reason and is now proceeding to download the new version yet again |
| 16:13.38 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: nice catch on the video, I missed that |
| 16:13.43 | bluipodcow | H |
| 16:13.58 | bluipodcow | It possibly may not affect the EU realms |
| 16:15.17 | Jamash | Day X, zeratul-senpai has not noticed me. (Still not in the LotV beta) |
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| 16:28.56 | Arrowmaster | my kelthazad got silenced by a an owl :( |
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| 16:32.35 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: I would give you mine if I could ;D |
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| 16:36.38 | Arrowmaster | 7 minions on the board and the priest flamestrikes me |
| 16:37.51 | Gnarfoz | seems like the thing to do? :D |
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| 16:50.27 | p3lim | http://i.imgur.com/yu8K6Ev.jpg Turned out well :] |
| 16:52.04 | kullervo | p3lim: did you sand those |
| 16:52.15 | p3lim | the keycaps? |
| 16:52.23 | kullervo | yeah |
| 16:52.29 | p3lim | nah I bought blanks |
| 16:53.13 | Gnarfoz | mechanical keyboards represent |
| 16:53.23 | Gnarfoz | poker II? |
| 16:53.30 | p3lim | nope, made it myself |
| 16:53.34 | Gnarfoz | oO |
| 16:54.06 | Gnarfoz | for funsies? |
| 16:54.14 | p3lim | mostly :) |
| 16:54.28 | kullervo | I sort of want a macro keyboard |
| 16:54.44 | kullervo | you know some small addition that has hardware macros instead of software bs |
| 16:55.01 | Gnarfoz | as if that really made a difference |
| 16:55.08 | Gnarfoz | (no, I don't) |
| 16:55.29 | p3lim | hm, sounds like you want a ghpad or something |
| 16:56.13 | p3lim | basically a programmable numpad |
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| 17:02.11 | Gnarfoz | +8315% gold find |
| 17:02.12 | Gnarfoz | hmmm |
| 17:02.17 | Gnarfoz | maybe this will solve my gold troubles! |
| 17:07.05 | kullervo | Gnarfoz: well, for one, hardware macros can't be detected, and don't use the cpu :P |
| 17:07.20 | Gnarfoz | at least, that's what you hope |
| 17:07.37 | kullervo | well, they're coming from another HID device |
| 17:07.46 | Gnarfoz | they are also VERY fast |
| 17:07.53 | kullervo | unless set up with delays |
| 17:08.02 | Gnarfoz | well then they're not gaining that much |
| 17:08.04 | Gnarfoz | just botting! |
| 17:08.07 | Gnarfoz | get bant :( |
| 17:08.25 | kullervo | well like fuck I'm going to actually click through 1k salvage crates |
| 17:08.52 | kullervo | https://www.dropbox.com/s/w92o2z1fspwmrjj/Screenshot_2015-05-09-13-31-20.png?dl=0 |
| 17:09.08 | kullervo | found some BiS boots |
| 17:09.25 | kd3 | o_O |
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| 17:10.58 | Gnarfoz | can I have two of a legendary gem on the same character? |
| 17:11.17 | foxlit | mop gems? |
| 17:11.19 | kullervo | yes |
| 17:11.22 | fewyn | in d3? i think not Gnarfoz |
| 17:11.27 | kullervo | oh |
| 17:11.29 | fewyn | they only drop once afaik |
| 17:11.47 | Gnarfoz | I can get them to drop twice by dropping them/putting them in another char's inventory |
| 17:11.58 | fewyn | no idea then |
| 17:12.01 | Gnarfoz | but can I hold two of them on the same character afterwards? :\ |
| 17:12.13 | fewyn | aren't they unique? |
| 17:12.14 | Gnarfoz | someone probably knows, so I'm not going to try until I get very bored |
| 17:12.14 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 17:12.34 | Gnarfoz | Unique Equipped, as most everything in D3 |
| 17:12.54 | Gnarfoz | wtb second Taeguk for +gold set! :D |
| 17:13.13 | Gnarfoz | guess I'll have to put something else in there for now |
| 17:13.52 | Gnarfoz | or not, out of mats to reroll, and no socket on it so far |
| 17:14.49 | p3lim | foxlit: you're the author of masterplan right? |
| 17:15.14 | foxlit | right |
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| 17:17.19 | Arrowmaster | i want to play the brm mage class challenge deck in real games |
| 17:21.27 | p3lim | foxlit: suggestion: make the minimap button's tooltip actually useful |
| 17:26.28 | kullervo | minimap buttons aren't ever useful |
| 17:26.36 | kullervo | I'd bind that shit to opie if I could |
| 17:27.31 | Gnarfoz | you're talking to the right guy for THAT, too |
| 17:28.02 | p3lim | I thought you could use macros with opie |
| 17:28.19 | p3lim | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:42.05 | Jamash | hm, how I find cow level |
| 17:42.28 | Maldivia | there is no cow level... most certainly not :D |
| 17:42.29 | Gnarfoz | "Go anywhere. If it's not there, go somewhere else." :D |
| 17:43.00 | Jamash | basically should I just teleport from waypoint to waypoint or actually explore levels |
| 17:45.23 | Amarande | Jamash: D3 or D2? |
| 17:45.30 | Maldivia | D3 |
| 17:45.39 | Amarande | well in D3 you had to explore the levels to unlock adventure mode to begin with :) |
| 17:45.52 | Gnarfoz | no, D4 beta! |
| 17:46.06 | Amarande | I usually teleport from waypoint to waypoint unless there's a particular reason for me to linger in that specific location |
| 17:46.18 | Amarande | e.g., if it's in an Act where I have not got all the achievements related to that zone yet |
| 17:46.53 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: D3ex2 is before D4 though |
| 17:47.14 | Amarande | if you still need random side dungeons for your explorer achievement this season (or even career ... especially with those damn Act II ones that are randoms off that device thing which ITSELF IS RANDOM *sigh*) |
| 17:47.22 | Amarande | then you might want to explore the zone further, if it can yield them |
| 17:47.36 | Amarande | (also if you're on a torment difficulty and it's a keywarden zone, then naturally go find him!) |
| 17:48.24 | Amarande | I'm *still* missing a couple of those ancient device dungeons *sigh* |
| 17:49.47 | Jamash | D3 |
| 17:50.17 | Jamash | Amarande: I mean the D3 cow level event that started today |
| 17:50.31 | Amarande | wait, there actually is a cow level now? |
| 17:50.40 | nebula169 | Jamash: you're looking for a herald of the queen, which is basically a treasure goblin |
| 17:54.23 | Jamash | Amarande: yes |
| 17:54.47 | Jamash | Amarande: as of today |
| 17:54.59 | Amarande | permanent, or a limited time only thing like the molten core upgrade in wow? |
| 17:55.28 | Jamash | Amarande: Seems to be a 1-week event |
| 17:55.31 | Amarande | oh, and speaking of matters of ragnaros |
| 17:55.35 | Jamash | which is why I'm anxious to get it |
| 17:55.41 | Jamash | I'm going out of town for the weekend in... an hour |
| 17:55.46 | Jamash | and I should be packing |
| 17:55.47 | Amarande | where the hell do you enter firelands from anyway, I quested all over Hyjal and I didn't notice anything leading to a giant dailies zone |
| 17:55.56 | Amarande | er, I mean Molten Front |
| 17:56.01 | Amarande | where you do the solo firelandsy stuff |
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| 18:10.43 | Jamash | Amarande: That's easy, you go to, uh... you... um... There's a portal at, uh, the place with cenarius? |
| 18:11.18 | Amarande | ah, I recall there being one, but never a quest that asked me to go through it, so I pretty much didn't think anything of it |
| 18:11.22 | Amarande | that's the entrance, though? |
| 18:12.36 | Amarande | (keep in mind that I went through Vashj'ir almost always, I only just finished my Cata loremaster the other day because I had never sent a character all the way through Hyjal before this pally) |
| 18:13.21 | Jamash | you have to actually do the first half of Hyjal first I think |
| 18:13.41 | Jamash | the critical path "assisting the ancients" stuff, not the sidequests |
| 18:15.22 | Jamash | ok yeah it's on a hill near the sanctuary of malorne http://img2.mmo.mmo4arab.com/wow/firelands_guide/m2s.jpg |
| 18:15.36 | Jamash | once you unlock it |
| 18:20.12 | Amarande | oh, is that that area where "the inferno goes away"? |
| 18:20.18 | Amarande | I never bothered to go back over there after that quest line was done |
| 18:20.25 | Ackis | any of you turds play rift still? |
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| 18:40.44 | Jamash | oh well, no cow level for me until monday |
| 18:40.47 | Jamash | byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 18:50.37 | Primer | Who here bought a 1+1? Are you satisfied with it? I need to get a new phone. My old S3 is feeling very sluggish recently. |
| 18:51.54 | Gnarfoz | several people, but are you going to buy an old phone? |
| 18:52.11 | Gnarfoz | (also, might want to try factory resetting it first ^^) |
| 18:53.27 | Gnarfoz | or put 5.1 on it :D |
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| 18:53.51 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I hear the OPO is a greath phone |
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| 19:05.17 | fewyn | i think you should buy a lumia instead |
| 19:06.51 | Arrowmaster | rumor of a Nexus 5 (2015) |
| 19:13.20 | Gnarfoz | 5.2" more like |
| 19:13.22 | Gnarfoz | but yeah |
| 19:13.39 | Gnarfoz | too big for me >_> |
| 19:18.01 | fewyn | that's what she said |
| 19:19.34 | Primer | I really like the S3's size. It feels "just right". I worry that the 1+1 will be too big for my liking |
| 19:20.21 | Primer | But yeah, I've pondered doing a full reset on my phone and perhaps going with cyanogen |
| 19:21.55 | Gnarfoz | certainly the cheaper variant for now |
| 19:22.49 | Gnarfoz | http://mobiledevicesize.com/compare/#134,425;1 |
| 19:22.58 | Gnarfoz | (make sure to click "actual size" once and enter your screen size) |
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| 19:34.08 | Eol | Where can I find a datamined list of all cursor names? |
| 19:34.22 | Primer | the internets |
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| 19:40.55 | Gnarfoz | whee, last reroll I could afford gave the desired result, finally |
| 19:41.33 | Amarande | reroll? afford? D3 enchant or ... ? |
| 19:41.36 | Amarande | oh right, Gnarfoz has me on ignore |
| 19:45.27 | Semlar | Eol: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetCursor |
| 19:45.48 | Eol | So that doesn't list the 'prospecting' or 'disenchant' or 'mill' cursors |
| 19:45.57 | Eol | So how would I find those strings and/or interface paths |
| 19:47.05 | WrathTECH | If you extract the game files you can see all of the cursor names. Check out CASC Viewer |
| 19:47.45 | Semlar | you can set the cursor to most any texture in the game files |
| 19:48.00 | WrathTECH | Just from the pre-determined cursors. |
| 19:48.09 | Semlar | no |
| 19:48.18 | WrathTECH | You cannot mod them though, legally |
| 19:48.33 | Semlar | you can call SetCursor('interface/icons/inv_mushroom_11') |
| 19:48.40 | WrathTECH | Really? |
| 19:48.42 | WrathTECH | LOL |
| 19:48.42 | Semlar | yes |
| 19:48.48 | WrathTECH | That's awesome! |
| 19:48.50 | Eol | yeah, the base UI does interface stuff |
| 19:49.08 | Semlar | the problem is the cursor resets itself immediately to what it's supposed to be unless you're over a mouse enabled frame |
| 19:49.27 | Semlar | or you're constantly setting it |
| 19:49.35 | WrathTECH | Yeah, that is expected. |
| 19:50.04 | WrathTECH | Been toying around with cursors a bit in my addon, just mouseover events, really |
| 19:50.19 | Semlar | it's possible it requires the texture to be a certain format though |
| 19:50.46 | Semlar | all i know is the last time i tried to set it to a texture that wasn't inside the game files already it failed |
| 19:50.52 | WrathTECH | Gotta go, CMD repair finally got done, need to restart |
| 19:51.19 | Eol | So I see \\Interface\\CURSOR\\Gunner |
| 19:51.29 | Eol | so CASC viewer would allow me to list all those in that family? |
| 19:51.43 | Semlar | if it's in the casc viewer's file list |
| 19:52.23 | Semlar | http://wowprogramming.com/utils/artbrowser/Interface/CURSOR.list |
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| 19:52.48 | WrathTECH | SSD = Awesome |
| 19:52.56 | WrathTECH | Wish I had a second for a raid 0 setup |
| 19:54.56 | Eol | I still don't see the mill/disenchant/prospect.. where the hell did they store those? :P |
| 19:55.48 | Semlar | i have no idea what icon you're talking about |
| 19:55.58 | Eol | Maybe it's because it's the spell |
| 19:56.05 | Semlar | the disenchant cursor is literally just the glowing hand |
| 19:56.41 | Gnarfoz | WrathTECH: pointless to raid0 them unless you like data loss very much |
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| 19:57.22 | Gnarfoz | you're not going to get lower access speeds out of it, which is what make them so seem so fast, and I very much doubt you're hitting either its IOPS or transfer speed limits ;) |
| 19:57.55 | WrathTECH | No, just load times |
| 19:58.08 | Gnarfoz | again, doubtful raid 0 is going to improve that further. |
| 19:58.26 | Gnarfoz | most likely the program is question is spending time processing the loaded data is what's limiting load speed |
| 19:58.34 | WrathTECH | Depends on the chipset and cpu. |
| 19:58.36 | Gnarfoz | (unless you have some older SSD) |
| 19:58.44 | WrathTECH | Nah, OCZ Vector |
| 19:58.45 | Gnarfoz | depends on all involved. |
| 19:59.03 | WrathTECH | But I gotta run errands. Later folks. |
| 19:59.46 | Gnarfoz | ocz? barefoot 3? well. there's still room left there for upgrades. :p |
| 20:12.53 | VIad | witcher 3 soon, gonna be glorious |
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| 20:18.48 | kd3 | wow. not a fan of the death penalty decision, but what a headline... "Dzhokhar Tsarnaev to be remanded into the custody of the Baltimore Police Department" |
| 20:22.34 | Gnarfoz | he ded? |
| 20:22.47 | kd3 | the jury said 'death penalty' |
| 20:22.52 | Gnarfoz | I see |
| 20:23.00 | kd3 | so now he gets to waste millions more of our money on automatic appeal and become a martyr |
| 20:23.25 | Gnarfoz | oh I misread that, thought that said Boston PD |
| 20:23.37 | Gnarfoz | which would mean there'd be every chance he'd never reach that stage ;p |
| 20:29.33 | Semlar | i assumed being handed over to the baltimore police was a joke |
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| 20:35.47 | Amarande | yeah, the jury is rather idiotic in this case (then again, there's a general perception that juries are actively selected to weed out more intelligent members when possible :S) |
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| 20:36.15 | Amarande | they should have just thrown him in the Supermax like Reid and Kazynski (spelling?) and all those other crazies |
| 20:37.20 | Amarande | not that I get to serve on federal juries anyway, the one time I got a jury duty summons I had to put in a claim for hardship, much as I would have liked to go |
| 20:37.42 | Amarande | (when I got my state jury duty summons a while back, I did in fact go ... 'course there were no cases that day needing jurors, go figure LOL) |
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| 21:02.24 | Gnarfoz | if it was, I don't get it, but I don't follow US news |
| 21:04.49 | Semlar | ah, the baltimore police are having a bit of bad press for accidentally killing someone they took into custody in their police van |
| 21:05.55 | winny | apparently they didn't buckle up the victim and it's been a common police tactic to rough up passengers with bad driving |
| 21:06.37 | Semlar | so when he said they were handing him over to the baltimore pd i assumed they were making a joke about him getting the death penalty |
| 21:07.54 | winny | probably though i'm not familiar with context |
| 21:10.24 | Amarande | as for why I don't get to serve on federal juries, that would have simply to do with the courts being too far away and I don't drive |
| 21:11.18 | Amarande | it would cost me over 100 bucks a day to serve, and I'm pretty sure you only get compensated for wages, not transit costs which would be the issue |
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| 21:18.23 | winny | too bad savages in boston decided to kill off the bomber |
| 21:33.23 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: i dont really understand they why but my family members are heading to nashville tomorrow morning to do a bachelorette bar crawl |
| 21:56.53 | Dagmar | In the _morning_? |
| 21:57.02 | Dagmar | Damn they're clearly professionals |
| 22:01.56 | Arrowmaster | they are leaving in the morning from ohio |
| 22:12.15 | Arrowmaster | huqv38 |
| 22:28.39 | Gnarfoz | that's an awfully short password |
| 22:29.23 | Arrowmaster | its just my screen unlock pass |
| 22:29.24 | fewyn | hunter3 |
| 22:30.07 | Arrowmaster | the FDE pass is much more complex |
| 22:30.24 | Arrowmaster | guess its time to change that one though |
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| 22:41.46 | Eol | In the code, is there a way I can do something like if( ____ ) then Print("I'm secure!") else print("I'm tainted!") end |
| 22:47.57 | Gnarfoz | issecure() |
| 22:48.01 | Gnarfoz | I think. |
| 22:48.47 | Gnarfoz | http://wow.gamepedia.com/Secure_Execution_and_Tainting http://wow.gamepedia.com/API_issecurevariable http://wow.gamepedia.com/API_issecure |
| 22:49.23 | Amarande | also, the fact of taint is the easy part, bugsack or swatter will happily let you know when stuff's not working because it's become tainted, because that throws an actual error |
| 22:49.33 | Amarande | the hard part is figuring out *how* stuff gets tainted in the first place |
| 22:49.44 | Amarande | which is frequently a nigh-on impossible task |
| 22:52.50 | nevcairiel | Eol: issecure() is correct, however there will never be any code which you can write that will be secure |
| 22:52.57 | nevcairiel | any addon code is tainted by design |
| 22:53.18 | Eol | ah |
| 22:55.21 | Eol | Is there a way I can find out if the button i'm using is a SecureActionButtonTemplate ? |
| 22:55.43 | Eol | i'm using a framework that's abstracting it away from me. i've got a reference to (self) |
| 22:57.41 | Eol | found it, GetObjectType |
| 22:59.35 | nevcairiel | not sure that will tell you such details |
| 23:00.12 | Eol | yeah, it doesnt |
| 23:00.29 | foxlit | well, if it quacks like a duck. |
| 23:00.53 | nevcairiel | what kind of framework are you using |
| 23:01.12 | Eol | working with TSM |
| 23:08.46 | foxlit | There is generally no bulletproof way to check whether an arbitrary widget inherits from a given template, because that relationship is discarded on creation. |
| 23:09.22 | foxlit | You could check whether the script handlers are what you expect them to be, but that only works up until someone calls hooks or wraps them. |
| 23:09.31 | foxlit | s/calls// |
| 23:15.40 | Eol | I'm pretty sure the thing is a SecureActionButton, but "type1", "macro" "macrotext1" isn't casting anything |
| 23:15.45 | Eol | Ah well, i'll drop this idea |
| 23:35.08 | Semlar | foxlit: you could hook every frame created after your addon loads ^_^ |
| 23:35.22 | foxlit | Semlar: no, you can't. |
| 23:35.25 | foxlit | XML is a thing. |
| 23:35.35 | Semlar | pfft who uses xml |
| 23:37.55 | Semlar | eol what are you trying to do |
| 23:38.22 | Eol | On button click "/cast milling; /use 3 4" |
| 23:38.37 | Semlar | your own button? |
| 23:38.39 | Eol | yes |
| 23:38.49 | Semlar | why do you need to figure out who's inheriting what |
| 23:39.00 | Eol | well, i'm trying to debug why it's not working |
| 23:39.14 | Eol | i'm doing everythign that i've read, and it's not doing anything |
| 23:39.21 | Semlar | what do you have |
| 23:39.50 | Semlar | it's pretty much just inherit the secure click template, set its type and macrotext |
| 23:40.04 | Eol | self:SetAttribute("type2","macro") |
| 23:40.04 | Eol | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.38 | Eol | that's on it's onEnter. but when i right click, nothin happens |
| 23:41.53 | Semlar | are you putting this button on top of your bag buttons |
| 23:42.20 | Eol | nope |
| 23:44.08 | Semlar | you've registered for right clicks? |
| 23:44.48 | WrathTECH | I really hate Admiral Grace Hopper for coining the programming term, "Debugging", cause she found a real insect cauing her machine to malfunction...... |
| 23:45.27 | Eol | Lol why? |
| 23:45.44 | WrathTECH | I hate debugging! Couldn't it be, fixing? >.> |
| 23:45.57 | Eol | You see, that nuance is a beautiful word |
| 23:45.58 | Semlar | then you'd hate fixing |
| 23:46.04 | WrathTECH | lolol |
| 23:46.17 | Semlar | grace hopper is not a real name |
| 23:46.42 | WrathTECH | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debugging |
| 23:51.17 | Semlar | you know it says in that article that she didn't coin the term |
| 23:52.42 | WrathTECH | True |
| 23:52.58 | WrathTECH | Okay, wth, I fix a bunch of eerrors, now half my gd addon doesn't work : / |
| 23:53.16 | Semlar | should've left them in |
| 23:53.28 | Semlar | that's what you get for trying to fix things |
| 23:53.47 | WrathTECH | lol |
| 23:54.19 | WrathTECH | Worst part, not giving me any erros at all now |
| 23:58.00 | Eol | Ok, I figured it all out. Thanks for the help. |
| 23:58.22 | Semlar | was it registering for clicks |
| 23:59.00 | Eol | No, so in the framework, it was overriding the OnClick, which is obviously a no-no for secureness |
| 23:59.17 | Eol | so there were like layers of indirection for the onclick |
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| 23:59.29 | Semlar | sounds like what you need is more abstraction |
| 23:59.39 | Eol | yes. much more. |
| 23:59.41 | kd3 | and caching |
| 23:59.49 | Eol | probably could use the cloud as well |
