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| 08:52.41 | VIad | karl_w_w: I'll be home in 6-7 hours, hope I make it |
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| 10:36.58 | p3lim | 49 minute queue to use the bnet launcher.. what? |
| 10:42.13 | MiRai | You can probably just launch the client directly and log in |
| 10:42.25 | p3lim | did, but still |
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| 11:34.03 | Fisker | hugtackles early Lopeppeppy |
| 11:35.39 | Lopeppeppy | I did it, Fisker. I can has new car. |
| 11:35.57 | Fisker | yay |
| 11:36.01 | Fisker | can has android auto? |
| 11:36.12 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. Can has "reliable on snowy roads so I don't die". |
| 11:38.21 | Fisker | Not dying is good |
| 11:38.33 | Fisker | That would be most preferable |
| 11:39.51 | Lopeppeppy | I also find that to be true, and thus I have a Suzuki. |
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| 12:17.24 | Gnarfoz | how does that preclude has-ing Android Auto |
| 12:19.40 | Fisker | It probably just wasn't a focus |
| 12:33.36 | karl_w_w | it's a magical place |
| 12:34.13 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: clearly |
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| 14:12.51 | karl_w_w | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/532297/nice/Danger-Do-Not-Touch.jpg |
| 14:47.37 | Gnarfoz | anyone knowledgeable about php.ini details? in particular, as which "modify type" (i.e. PHP_INI_USER/PERDIR/SYSTEM/ALL) are directives in [HOST=some.ho.st] blocks that are in "additional ini files", as defined by --with-config-file-scan-dir=/some/path going to be treated? |
| 14:47.53 | Gnarfoz | I'm already looking at PHP source code and I still can't figure it out |
| 14:48.03 | Gnarfoz | it appears to just not be documented |
| 14:51.37 | Arrowmaster | kelthazad + knife juggler = lolz |
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| 15:05.00 | Arrowmaster | kelthazad + sludge belcher is also fun |
| 15:05.05 | Arrowmaster | fuck kelthazad is just fun |
| 15:05.51 | Arrowmaster | we got to turn 10 both still at 25-26hp and he conceeded with my kelthazad combo in play |
| 15:07.23 | znf | EU price below 40k |
| 15:12.08 | Arrowmaster | even the cats noping a little http://i.imgur.com/lmiuWSr.gifv |
| 15:18.49 | VIad | Gnarfoz: you wonder the priorities of loading .ini files for PHP? |
| 15:19.51 | Gnarfoz | not precisely. |
| 15:19.59 | VIad | relevant http://php.net/manual/en/configuration.file.per-user.php ? |
| 15:20.02 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 15:20.22 | VIad | http://php.net/manual/en/configuration.php supposedly has all the answers |
| 15:20.23 | VIad | should |
| 15:20.29 | Gnarfoz | no, it shouldn't |
| 15:20.41 | Gnarfoz | those are not related to --with-config-file-scan-dir |
| 15:21.25 | VIad | those are about the .ini files so assumed the argument would be relevant somewhat |
| 15:21.49 | VIad | relevant? https://github.com/dmikusa-pivotal/cf-php-buildpack-binary-build-scripts/issues/9 |
| 15:22.54 | VIad | I am trying Gnarfoz :( |
| 15:23.05 | VIad | haven't played enough with the ini setup for php myself |
| 15:25.28 | Gnarfoz | then I doubt you can answer my question, sorry |
| 15:25.58 | Gnarfoz | the commenter there just says "I can't change PHP_INI_SYSTEM values this way" ("this" being using .user.ini files) |
| 15:26.48 | Gnarfoz | which could imply that it's possible using --with-config-file-scan-dir, but... yeah, when I add file_uploads = On to this additional .ini here, PHP just locks up |
| 15:27.33 | Gnarfoz | I can't find anything concrete that would make clear which scope these --with-config-file-scan-dir files are being treated as |
| 15:28.00 | Gnarfoz | (we've so far assumed that they're equivalent to the regular php.ini, but... yeah, apparently not) |
| 15:31.01 | znf | I'm watching a meraki webinar, these things are cool |
| 15:31.06 | znf | expensive as fuck, but cool |
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| 15:39.33 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqV9kx40RG0 never forget |
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| 16:05.55 | Fisker | g0urra my friend |
| 16:06.06 | g0urra | Fisker my enemy |
| 16:06.21 | Fisker | :'( |
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| 16:36.38 | Unkle | station |
| 16:36.55 | Cairenn | train |
| 16:37.09 | Fisker | passengers |
| 16:37.21 | Unkle | Poor Amtrak. |
| 16:37.27 | Fisker | :/ |
| 16:37.33 | Cairenn | ? |
| 16:37.50 | Fisker | There was a train crash in the US |
| 16:37.57 | Cairenn | ugh |
| 16:38.04 | Unkle | A derailment. |
| 16:38.42 | Fisker | Yeah didn't really look into the details not at home |
| 16:38.51 | Cairenn | those always suck. Given you're saying Amtrak, I'm presuming it was a passenger train? Any hurt/killed? |
| 16:39.05 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 16:39.19 | Fisker | I think I heard something like a couple of people confirmed dead, hundreds missing? |
| 16:39.23 | Unkle | It's a passenger train, outside Philadelphia. 6 dead, 200+ injured. |
| 16:39.31 | Fisker | or injured |
| 16:39.34 | Cairenn | :`( |
| 16:40.10 | Unkle | Not sure if they've identified everyone yet. And already people are grinding political axes about funding for Amtrak. Cause of accident is as yet unknown. |
| 16:40.26 | Cairenn | ugh |
| 16:42.08 | Cairenn | NB: The 'ugh' is to the fact that folks are politicising it. |
| 16:42.24 | nevcairiel | Thats surprising you? |
| 16:42.37 | Cairenn | Didn't say that. |
| 16:42.54 | Cairenn | Doesn't surprise me in the slightest. It just disgusts me. |
| 16:43.33 | Unkle | I've already seen at least one article about how the government keeps cutting their funding no wonder there was an accident. |
| 16:43.57 | Unkle | I'm sure to see a bunch more as people of different political groups weigh in to get in a soundbite. |
| 16:44.08 | Cairenn | Yup =/ |
| 16:44.27 | nevcairiel | Just do what many other countries have done, make the railroad companies private companies |
| 16:44.30 | Unkle | Frankly, Amtrak sucks and it's not about their funding. |
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| 16:45.11 | Unkle | nevcairiel: Yeah, I'm confused about why it's still a government controlled company instead of having been made private. |
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| 16:52.05 | fewyn | damn a ton of windows updates this month |
| 16:52.42 | Fisker | early bird gets the seed Cairenn |
| 16:53.03 | Cairenn | Often times, yup |
| 16:56.50 | Arrowmaster | its typically that the freight companies own all the lines and so amtrak always gets screwed with scheduling and delays |
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| 17:14.01 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: because privatization has worked *so* well for us :D lol |
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| 17:21.37 | Unkle | So. Many. Updates. |
| 17:22.00 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i couldnt tell you if it would be any better otherwise, but the gov not giving out enough money is a constant problem otherwise |
| 17:26.36 | Unkle | I suppose now that I have all these monitors hooked up I can ditch the Windows Classic theme I've been using to save screen space. |
| 17:32.05 | Fisker | Oh dear Unkle |
| 17:32.09 | Fisker | windows classic theme |
| 17:32.10 | Fisker | for shame |
| 17:32.31 | Unkle | When you have 15" of monitor you tend to cut the windows bling. |
| 17:32.46 | Fisker | I dunno |
| 17:32.56 | Fisker | Seems like I would've cracked my cyanide tooth and shot myself |
| 17:32.57 | Fisker | :P |
| 17:33.04 | Unkle | But now I have 2x 27" monitors hooked up... |
| 17:33.08 | Fisker | nice |
| 17:33.17 | Fisker | I got 3x27" monitors at home |
| 17:33.20 | Fisker | Only use one of them though |
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| 17:35.22 | Torhal | You can ship the other two to me, Fisker. I'm certain Semlar will reimburse the shipping. |
| 17:35.54 | nevcairiel | i have 2x27 and 2x24, but one of the 24 is connected to another PC |
| 17:35.58 | Semlar | put it on neffi's tab |
| 17:36.49 | g0urra | heh, the Mystic Runesaber video has 1:2 like:dislike ratio |
| 17:37.07 | Torhal | You have Neffi locked in your cellar, don't you, Semlar? |
| 17:37.26 | Semlar | don't be ridiculous, we don't have cellars in florida |
| 17:37.35 | Torhal | I know. |
| 17:37.39 | Torhal | That's what makes it worse. |
| 17:37.44 | nevcairiel | g0urra: its probably the outraged internet because they think another mount means they get less content otherwise, or something |
| 17:37.46 | Semlar | he's locked in the attic |
| 17:38.07 | nevcairiel | i think that mount looks neat |
| 17:38.22 | g0urra | or that instead of making a super hard to get mount they just put it on the store instead |
| 17:38.35 | Semlar | how could we possibly get less content |
| 17:38.59 | Semlar | they'd have to start taking existing content away |
| 17:39.21 | foxlit | did you hear about that entire troll raid they cut from 6.x? |
| 17:39.55 | nevcairiel | all these discussion^Wflame about how WoD sucks is always amusing me :d |
| 17:40.20 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:40.21 | Torhal | Here's an analogy: We get fewer AddOns from Semlar because he's too busy working on AddOns that he'll never finish and/or publish. |
| 17:40.45 | Semlar | i've actually started unpublishing published addons |
| 17:40.47 | Torhal | That was a shitty analogy, but I stand by its message. |
| 17:40.52 | Torhal | :O |
| 17:41.39 | foxlit | maybe if semlar spent less time doing things we don't like, we'd have more addons. |
| 17:41.50 | Semlar | :( |
| 17:43.10 | Unkle | Fisker: This is my desk at the office - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5797967/2015-05-13%2010.34.20.jpg |
| 17:44.08 | Dagmar | Remind April about the appliance thingy |
| 17:44.17 | cogwheel | Oh April, never remembers to look at the appliance doc |
| 17:44.31 | Unkle | Yeah, now I have to remind myself to remove the damned sticky. |
| 17:44.45 | fewyn | never buy a pt cruiser |
| 17:44.58 | Fisker | cool Unkle |
| 17:45.00 | fewyn | finally sold my brothers which he drove into the ground |
| 17:45.10 | fewyn | thankfully the junkyard gave us 275 for it |
| 17:45.48 | Dagmar | fewyn; You know, I thought about buying one of those back in 2001. ...and then I found out what kind of gas mileage they got. |
| 17:45.51 | cogwheel | there was one around here that was white and they put black splotches on it, attached a little piece of rope to the rear windshield wiper, and had a license plate PTMOOZR |
| 17:46.15 | Dagmar | It's like they weren't even trying to design a car... just fill in some checkboxes for management. |
| 17:46.27 | Unkle | I've always thought they looked like a miniature hearse. |
| 17:46.28 | cogwheel | i lol'd at least once, especially when they randomly did a "wag" of the tail at a stop sign |
| 17:46.59 | Dagmar | Make the engine _just_ big enough and just overpowered enough to really burn gas an alarming rate like a pickup truck, but without the ability to carry loads or handle well when the thing is fully-loaded |
| 17:47.04 | fewyn | basically the car had broken down enough where you couldn't drive it over 40mph |
| 17:47.21 | fewyn | and last week it completely stopped while my brother was driving it home from work |
| 17:47.38 | Dagmar | Attempt to make it "sort of" roomy like a minivan, but not really. |
| 17:47.59 | fewyn | i'm glad they gave us any money |
| 17:48.04 | Dagmar | The only thing they missed was a vestigial spoiler |
| 17:48.07 | fewyn | he needs to use this towards another car |
| 17:49.12 | zenzelezz | http://games.slashdot.org/story/15/05/12/1512239/open-source-c-clanlib-sdk-refreshed-for-2015 - for once the comments were mostly unanimous |
| 17:49.36 | fewyn | people still read slashdot? |
| 17:49.53 | zenzelezz | people ask that every time I link something from there |
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| 17:51.23 | Dagmar | zenzelezz: I blame the laws protecting hipsters |
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| 17:52.57 | Unkle | Re our Amtrak discussion earlier - http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/amtrak-acela-high-speed-trains-20150417 |
| 18:02.06 | zenzelezz | Unkle: long... but looks worth reading later |
| 18:02.36 | Unkle | skimming it myself. |
| 18:05.10 | fewyn | what does everyone use as their homepage these days besides the start tab of chrome |
| 18:05.26 | zenzelezz | about:blank |
| 18:06.00 | fewyn | way back in the day i used to use the google homepage thing but they discontinued that |
| 18:06.11 | Unkle | about:blank |
| 18:06.21 | zenzelezz | fewyn: igoogle? |
| 18:06.29 | fewyn | yeah |
| 18:06.30 | fewyn | that thing |
| 18:14.06 | Fisker | my website is complete Unkle |
| 18:14.30 | haste | Fisker: http://rum.pe/ |
| 18:14.47 | Fisker | nope haste |
| 18:14.48 | Fisker | https://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/ |
| 18:15.00 | haste | Your connection is not private!!!111 |
| 18:15.11 | Fisker | Nope |
| 18:15.11 | zenzelezz | haste: reminds me of the name of a night club in Anarchy Online; Rumpa Bar |
| 18:15.14 | Fisker | totally logging your connections |
| 18:15.17 | Fisker | I need a cert |
| 18:15.55 | haste | startssl |
| 18:16.45 | Fisker | I'm already doing that |
| 18:17.12 | Fisker | someone left me a message 4 hours ago |
| 18:17.58 | zenzelezz | oh man, how did no-one link me this before http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/User:Steve_Ballmer |
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| 18:32.53 | Fisker | yay haste |
| 18:33.01 | Fisker | got through, got to the page where it generates it |
| 18:33.19 | Fisker | clicking the button does nothing, opening dev tools shows that there's a syntax error so I refresh |
| 18:33.22 | Fisker | lol expired |
| 18:34.22 | haste | you suck Fisker |
| 18:34.29 | Fisker | no haste |
| 18:34.31 | Fisker | they suck |
| 18:34.41 | haste | they give away free ssl cert :P |
| 18:34.44 | Fisker | how else can I spread lennyface? |
| 18:34.59 | Fisker | the ssl cert is only free if my time is worthless |
| 18:35.25 | haste | your time is worthless |
| 18:36.50 | Fisker | The worth of time would be expanded to include everybody this offer is valid for |
| 18:37.04 | Fisker | So whether my time is worthless or not is ultimately irrelevant |
| 18:42.29 | fewyn | i really hope blizzard revamps inscription... or at least milling/inks |
| 18:42.51 | Arrowmaster | holy shit a downloaded 1,220.59 GB in May |
| 18:43.18 | Arrowmaster | im surprised my isp isnt yelling at me |
| 18:44.00 | kd3 | ...in may? it's only the 13th |
| 18:44.01 | fewyn | i'd tell you how much i've downloaded so far this month but my bandwidth checker on my router empties when i reboot it |
| 18:44.12 | Arrowmaster | march |
| 18:44.13 | Arrowmaster | sorry |
| 18:44.30 | fewyn | but in the last week i've /only/ downloaded 243gb |
| 18:44.37 | fewyn | which is a bit on the low side i think |
| 18:44.38 | zenzelezz | not quite new, but wow... http://www.quora.com/How-does-a-visually-impaired-computer-programmer-do-programming/answer/Lucas-Radaelli?srid=X0uX |
| 18:45.02 | Arrowmaster | yeah i have my router setup to save the bandwidth logs to a cifs share |
| 18:45.03 | zenzelezz | fewyn: yeah, that's not really very much porn |
| 18:45.14 | fewyn | most of it isn't porn though! |
| 18:45.16 | fewyn | trust me! |
| 18:45.21 | zenzelezz | of course it isn't |
| 18:45.23 | Dagmar | Umm... that's like eight hours of 720 a day |
| 18:45.32 | fewyn | it's mostly tv shows |
| 18:45.37 | Dagmar | If that's all porn, his hands must be little misshapen hooks by now |
| 18:45.45 | zenzelezz | 720? What kind of low-quality pervert are you |
| 18:45.58 | fewyn | http://i.imgur.com/zeFrZ9P.png that's my tv schedule from last week |
| 18:46.33 | Arrowmaster | what app is that |
| 18:46.42 | fewyn | https://sonarr.tv/ |
| 18:46.54 | Dagmar | LiENUS: TBH, man... I wound up tracking down a therapist just to deal with how I felt about realizing it wouldn't bother me to end someone |
| 18:46.54 | fewyn | it handles all my media |
| 18:46.56 | Dagmar | @#$@# |
| 18:47.08 | Fisker | You see too much shit |
| 18:47.30 | zenzelezz | to "end someone" in a porn discussion... |
| 18:47.45 | Dagmar | What? no Marvel Agents of SHIELD? |
| 18:48.05 | fewyn | oh shit |
| 18:48.12 | Semlar | no game of thrones |
| 18:48.15 | fewyn | i knew i forgot to re-add something |
| 18:48.18 | fewyn | i couldn't get into got |
| 18:48.22 | fewyn | i couldn't read the books either |
| 18:48.29 | Semlar | that's because the books were terrible |
| 18:48.38 | Fisker | also no the flash Dagmar |
| 18:48.50 | fewyn | i'm watching the flash |
| 18:48.52 | Semlar | clearly has the flash on tuesday |
| 18:48.52 | Dagmar | I'm not questioning that |
| 18:48.53 | fewyn | it's on tuesdays |
| 18:48.59 | Dagmar | I _tried_ to watch the Flash and like it. |
| 18:49.02 | fewyn | it's a great show |
| 18:49.04 | fewyn | shut up |
| 18:49.17 | Dagmar | Feels too milquetoast to me |
| 18:49.19 | Fisker | Oh right didn't see it because it's the day after for me |
| 18:49.27 | Dagmar | I'm not a fan of emo-heroes |
| 18:49.39 | zenzelezz | I'm not a fan of superheroes at all |
| 18:49.53 | zenzelezz | which saves me from watching a lot of movies and TV series |
| 18:49.54 | Dagmar | ...but at least it's not as bad as Supernatural. |
| 18:49.55 | Semlar | i don't like it because it's ridiculous how bad he is at being a superhero considering how powerful he should be |
| 18:50.02 | fewyn | tonight's is arrow's finale |
| 18:50.06 | fewyn | it should be gooooood |
| 18:50.12 | fewyn | next week is the flash |
| 18:50.19 | zenzelezz | fewyn: will be interesting to see if it hits its mark |
| 18:50.27 | Fisker | agents of shield finale was awesome btw |
| 18:50.31 | Dagmar | Yes it was |
| 18:50.41 | Dagmar | I'm glad they're not losing Agent Hottie |
| 18:50.58 | fewyn | i'm like an entire season behind |
| 18:50.59 | fewyn | on shield |
| 18:51.09 | Dagmar | claps his hands over his big mouth |
| 18:51.11 | jleclanche | https://xkcd.com/thing-explainer/ |
| 18:51.15 | jleclanche | randall is publishing a new book |
| 18:52.09 | Dagmar | Wait... what am I even worrying about. I don't think Agent Hottie even showed up until season 2 |
| 18:52.51 | zenzelezz | so who plays her? |
| 18:53.23 | Dagmar | https://www.google.com/search?q=agent+bobbi+shield |
| 18:53.49 | Dagmar | It's even spelled with an 'i' for pete's sake lol |
| 18:54.51 | zenzelezz | wouldn't watch a show just for her, but it certainly would help |
| 18:55.22 | nevcairiel | Fisker: i didnt like the absolute end of the finale, i like her :( |
| 18:57.04 | zenzelezz | I'm still looking forward to the very final episode of Game of Thrones; when Ned will rise as the new Lich King in the North and pwn some Lannisters |
| 18:57.36 | Fisker | le spoilers though nevcairiel |
| 18:57.45 | Dagmar | I look forward to the day when the dragons just eat everyone |
| 18:57.48 | nevcairiel | thats why i didnt say names! |
| 18:58.13 | Dagmar | Princess Peroxide can't keep her hold on them forever |
| 18:58.24 | Fisker | Didn't even need to say anything but the absolute end :P |
| 18:58.44 | nevcairiel | Dagmar: she did feed someone to them already, t hey have the taste for human flesh now! |
| 18:59.16 | zenzelezz | I'm very curious to see where they're taking the show |
| 19:13.58 | jleclanche | what are the difficulty steps in raid nowadays? 15 or 16 players? |
| 19:14.44 | Fisker | huh? |
| 19:17.46 | Dagmar | MOstly it's a smooth transition |
| 19:17.59 | Dagmar | We vary between 10-15 people through the course of a single night |
| 19:18.19 | Dagmar | Add another person, the boss gets another million HP or so |
| 19:18.44 | Dagmar | Maybe doing 15 people with only two healers can get iffy in some places |
| 19:18.55 | Dagmar | ...and two tanks is just about mandatory nowadays |
| 19:20.58 | fewyn | what |
| 19:20.59 | fewyn | Account Action: 6-Month Suspension |
| 19:20.59 | fewyn | Offense: Exploitation of game mechanics |
| 19:20.59 | fewyn | Recent activity on this account has shown characters exploiting functionality to the detriment of the game environment or the intended player experience. |
| 19:21.02 | fewyn | what |
| 19:21.23 | Dagmar | shuns fewyn |
| 19:21.36 | fewyn | exploitation of game mechanics? |
| 19:21.44 | Dagmar | Yeah that's an odd one |
| 19:21.58 | Dagmar | Been resetting Gruul a lot or something? |
| 19:22.04 | Dagmar | Perhaps a case of mistaken identity |
| 19:22.27 | fewyn | no |
| 19:23.10 | Dagmar | Yeah I'd be demanding an explanation/review then, because a 6-month ban is pretty unusual |
| 19:23.17 | Dagmar | ...or it's a phishing mail |
| 19:23.42 | Dagmar | If you were doing something worthy of a 6-mo ban, I think you'd probably know precisely what it was |
| 19:23.47 | fewyn | nope |
| 19:23.50 | fewyn | i got kicked off |
| 19:23.53 | fewyn | and says i'm banned |
| 19:23.56 | fewyn | when i try to login |
| 19:23.57 | zenzelezz | you were taunting tauren, weren't you |
| 19:24.05 | fewyn | no i was crafting glyphs :( |
| 19:24.14 | Semlar | banned |
| 19:24.28 | zenzelezz | so you right this moment got banned? |
| 19:24.41 | Dagmar | "Dear GMs. Please explain. If I were exploiting anything, surely I would have better gear than this." |
| 19:24.45 | Semlar | hax, fewyn |
| 19:25.17 | Semlar | have you been ruining the auction house economy again |
| 19:25.28 | fewyn | not more than usual? |
| 19:25.33 | Semlar | how much is usual |
| 19:26.16 | fewyn | https://theunderminejournal.com/#us/eonar/seller/rotwyn |
| 19:26.17 | Semlar | do you post a bunch of pages of 1 stack of items |
| 19:26.20 | fewyn | no |
| 19:26.44 | fewyn | i do stacks of 5 of old world enchanting mats and then transmog items |
| 19:26.49 | fewyn | and then glyphs |
| 19:26.56 | fewyn | those are the only markets i'm in |
| 19:27.06 | Dagmar | Gotta be a mistake then. Contact them and ask for an explanatin |
| 19:27.19 | fewyn | already emailed |
| 19:27.25 | Semlar | like blizzard would ever make a mistake |
| 19:27.33 | Dagmar | Well, they're not Titans |
| 19:27.53 | Dagmar | Someone probably fat-fingered something |
| 19:28.22 | Dagmar | 'bout the only "exploitable" thing I can think of that players might generally ignore is resetting the exhaustion buff |
| 19:28.24 | fewyn | some asshole probably reported me because he thought i must be exploiting |
| 19:28.34 | fewyn | for selling so much stuff on the AH |
| 19:28.39 | fewyn | wouldn't be the first time |
| 19:28.44 | Dagmar | Yeah but they should generally be _verifying_ things before handing out a 6-month ban |
| 19:28.48 | fewyn | usually it isn't 6 months though |
| 19:28.57 | Semlar | this is what they give to botters |
| 19:29.01 | Dagmar | Yeah |
| 19:29.35 | Semlar | they have misidentified people as botters before who go into instances to farm |
| 19:30.12 | zenzelezz | is there an appeal link or something for the ban? |
| 19:30.22 | fewyn | already opened a support ticket |
| 19:30.27 | Dagmar | Maybe they decided he was a bot for milling over 200 pastes without taking a "screaming break" |
| 19:31.03 | Semlar | maybe he was botting :o |
| 19:31.38 | fewyn | no i just watch tv while milling |
| 19:31.58 | Semlar | milling WITH A BOT |
| 19:31.58 | zenzelezz | they see me millin', they hatin', reportin' and try'na catch me bottin' dirty |
| 19:32.20 | Semlar | maybe you are a robot |
| 19:32.24 | Semlar | prove you're a human |
| 19:32.32 | Mr_Rabies | i do that a lot |
| 19:32.36 | Mr_Rabies | oops |
| 19:32.47 | Mr_Rabies | <Semlar> do you post a bunch of pages of 1 stack of items |
| 19:32.48 | zenzelezz | proving you're human? |
| 19:32.49 | Mr_Rabies | i do this a lot |
| 19:32.52 | zenzelezz | ah |
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| 19:44.29 | fewyn | welp |
| 19:44.32 | fewyn | screw you too blizzard |
| 19:44.33 | fewyn | i'm done |
| 19:44.49 | zenzelezz | they didn't care to elaborate? |
| 19:44.57 | fewyn | they said i'm using third party tools |
| 19:45.09 | fewyn | which i'm not? |
| 19:45.19 | fewyn | this isn't the first time they've banned me for that excuse |
| 19:45.22 | fewyn | this time it's 6 months |
| 19:45.24 | fewyn | i'm done |
| 19:45.42 | zenzelezz | are you running anything special at all that warden could misidentify? |
| 19:45.47 | fewyn | i don't think so? |
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| 19:51.34 | Dagmar | So, in other words, you're being punished because they didn't _actually_ clear your name after the last time |
| 19:52.17 | fewyn | last time was i think a week ban? |
| 19:52.22 | fewyn | they wouldn't unban me either |
| 19:52.30 | fewyn | this was maybe 6 months ago |
| 19:55.39 | Dagmar | Yeah so clearly they are punishing you for misdetecting something twice |
| 19:57.35 | Semlar | blizzard just rolled out a banwave for people using honorbuddy so |
| 19:58.36 | Semlar | probably related to that |
| 19:58.52 | fewyn | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 19:59.11 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.23 | fewyn | trying not to be upset about it tbh |
| 19:59.31 | fewyn | i've been playing the game for over 10 years |
| 20:00.06 | foxlit | the "correct" response is "but I wasn't using any third-party tools" |
| 20:00.52 | Stanzilla | they don't have to prove it to you though |
| 20:00.54 | Stanzilla | that's the sad part |
| 20:01.06 | Semlar | they don't even have to tell you why you were suspended |
| 20:01.10 | Semlar | it's super annoying |
| 20:01.15 | kd3 | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17347095985 |
| 20:01.38 | foxlit | right, they're not obligated to tell you the time of day. |
| 20:02.54 | foxlit | however, CS is there for a reason, and protesting may get get you unbanned quicker anyway. |
| 20:03.31 | Dagmar | Yeah this is almost certainly them mis-detecting things |
| 20:05.04 | Dagmar | checks to make sure he's not banned |
| 20:11.22 | fewyn | supposedly cs has been told not to overturn the bans |
| 20:11.31 | fewyn | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/35v2w4/widespread_bans_eu/cr83mk0 |
| 20:12.43 | Mr_Rabies | apparently it could be tied in with buying duped stuff on the AH |
| 20:12.44 | Mr_Rabies | but like |
| 20:12.45 | Mr_Rabies | what |
| 20:12.55 | Mr_Rabies | though in your case they said third party programs |
| 20:13.31 | Mr_Rabies | oh wow yeah honorbuddy got rekt https://i.imgur.com/sWIwquc.jpg |
| 20:13.45 | zenzelezz | "Of course he was. They verified it. " |
| 20:13.46 | fewyn | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 20:14.08 | Dagmar | Oh what a shame botters got tanked |
| 20:14.31 | Semlar | i have never heard of anyone getting in trouble for buying "duped" items off the auction house |
| 20:14.37 | Semlar | that sounds highly unlikely |
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| 20:14.40 | Dagmar | ...but it sounds like someone didn't do enough focus on eliminating false positives |
| 20:14.48 | Dagmar | Whatcha wan' bet it was one of those newbies they hired |
| 20:15.31 | zenzelezz | "All right Steve, you first task will be to positively identify people using honorbuddy. Have it done by Friday" |
| 20:15.44 | Semlar | i wonder how they detected it |
| 20:16.04 | fewyn | with a magic eight ball it looks like |
| 20:16.20 | Semlar | well, they managed to tag you as using it |
| 20:16.55 | Semlar | so there may be something about your behavior or something you're running that it flagged |
| 20:16.58 | fewyn | honestly this might be a good thing for me |
| 20:17.06 | fewyn | i spend way too much time ingame |
| 20:17.11 | fewyn | i still haven't found a job |
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| 20:17.23 | fewyn | not much i can do about that though other than keep sending resumes |
| 20:17.38 | Mr_Rabies | seems like there could be a ton of false positives |
| 20:18.01 | Mr_Rabies | either that or a ton of botters :v |
| 20:18.17 | Semlar | there clearly are a ton of botters |
| 20:18.39 | Semlar | botting has gotten way out of hand |
| 20:19.05 | Semlar | the last time i was in a battleground i was the only human |
| 20:19.26 | Mr_Rabies | i don't pvp so i havent seen them |
| 20:19.42 | Eol | So what's the best place to hook into to make it so that the cursor changes to a different icon when you hover in your bags? |
| 20:19.46 | Semlar | they probably flag you as a bot for leaving your garrison |
| 20:19.50 | Mr_Rabies | i imagine today is gonna be a good one for real pvp |
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| 20:20.11 | Eol | did they send out a bot banwave? |
| 20:20.28 | Semlar | hook the onenter for the button you want the icon to change for |
| 20:20.57 | Eol | well, it's not a button, per se. It's anything in your bags. eg, mouse over your greys to sell them to the vendor, turns into a bag icon |
| 20:21.05 | Semlar | those are all buttons |
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| 20:21.43 | Dagmar | Eol: Yep |
| 20:21.44 | Semlar | i guess you could hook the tooltip |
| 20:21.58 | Semlar | and then try and change the cursor |
| 20:25.09 | Semlar | looks like the cursor just keeps getting reset |
| 20:25.58 | Eol | yeah |
| 20:26.13 | Eol | that's what I was running into. there may not be a way |
| 20:26.36 | Semlar | the only way i know to stop that would prevent you from interacting with the button, which would require something more annoying to fix |
| 20:28.30 | Fisker | god damnit haste |
| 20:28.36 | Fisker | it requires a mail server |
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| 20:35.35 | Torhal | sets the mouse cursor to Semlar's final form. |
| 20:35.44 | fewyn | guess i should find something else to do with all my free time |
| 20:35.59 | Semlar | this isn't even my final torhal |
| 20:37.01 | Semlar | clearly you should be able to spend gold to take time off of your suspension |
| 20:37.38 | fewyn | ~731k gold on my account |
| 20:38.42 | Semlar | that should be worth at least 6 months |
| 20:38.49 | fewyn | totes |
| 20:39.02 | fewyn | and poof goes my next couple months of paid game time too |
| 20:39.09 | fewyn | because i assume they don't "pause" the subscription |
| 20:40.12 | Semlar | if you get suspended i don't think they count that against your paid time |
| 20:41.12 | Eol | So are there 'false positives' on these bans? |
| 20:41.19 | Dagmar | Apparently so |
| 20:41.22 | Semlar | only if you count fewyn |
| 20:41.41 | Semlar | who i suspect may be a robot |
| 20:42.17 | fewyn | exterminate |
| 20:42.32 | Fisker | There was a false positive once |
| 20:43.46 | Torhal | So fewyn is related to Shirik? |
| 20:43.58 | Torhal | Or are they competing AIs? |
| 20:45.07 | fewyn | I'm The Machine and Shirik is Samaratin? |
| 20:46.05 | nevcairiel | so you're half-dead in a suitcase now? |
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| 21:17.30 | Thunder_Child | Torhal: Just a fork with a different focus. |
| 21:25.43 | kd3 | hahaha https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/today-5132015-world-warcraft-population-demands-unbanning-their-toon-and-change-terms-so-we-can-play |
| 21:26.31 | Thunder_Child | >.< |
| 21:26.32 | zenzelezz | "WE do not want to see any lives lost due to A ban" |
| 21:26.36 | zenzelezz | sounds like a threat |
| 21:27.09 | kd3 | it looks like bnet auth is getting DDoSed right now too |
| 21:27.10 | kd3 | hahahaha |
| 21:27.19 | nevcairiel | probably by those morons |
| 21:27.23 | Fisker | Sounds like I'm hugging Cairenn |
| 21:27.34 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 21:27.40 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 21:28.03 | zenzelezz | but nevcairiel, everyone knows that the best way to get unbanned is to try to prevent everyone else from playing |
| 21:53.49 | kd3 | https://twitter.com/aaronj1335/status/598591114711535616 |
| 21:54.22 | Semlar | should just be eif |
| 21:56.41 | nevcairiel | the perl and ruby people must be on crack, that screams "different just because" to me =p |
| 22:05.09 | foxlit | nevcairiel: chronologically, it probably makes more sense. |
| 22:06.24 | foxlit | perl predates everything on that list except c, and probably just wanted a single token for some reason. |
| 22:06.43 | nevcairiel | but why take out the e |
| 22:06.49 | nevcairiel | it just looks weird |
| 22:07.00 | fewyn | less characters? |
| 22:07.05 | fewyn | insanity? |
| 22:07.21 | nevcairiel | insanity was the reason i suggested above =p |
| 22:07.22 | foxlit | elif is superior, but perhaps more confusing. |
| 22:07.44 | foxlit | it's the minimal string that's pronouncible with a recognizable else. |
| 22:08.21 | foxlit | but also maybe simpler to parse |
| 22:08.28 | foxlit | no confusion between else and elseif. |
| 22:08.33 | nevcairiel | technically, you do not even need a else if construct, just using a if nested under the else will do the same job |
| 22:09.34 | nevcairiel | unless maybe in python, where the forced indenation would make that weird =P |
| 22:09.39 | A-KO | I wish I could respond to these threads on reddit about the bans...lol |
| 22:10.04 | foxlit | nevcairiel: }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} |
| 22:10.48 | nevcairiel | if you look at C, which doesnt have a special token, if you just indent else-if differently, it looks like you just used "else" with a following "if", but still does the same |
| 22:10.56 | foxlit | A-KO: have you been banned from reddit? |
| 22:11.37 | A-KO | no foxlit |
| 22:11.56 | foxlit | so go and respond to those threads? |
| 22:13.04 | nevcairiel | http://pastebin.com/u8hWqVaY those two blocks practically do the same thing, but one could argue that the second doesnt use "else if" =p |
| 22:13.47 | foxlit | (a) single-line conditional blocks are evil. |
| 22:14.37 | foxlit | (b) perl doesn't allow you to use them that way. |
| 22:14.47 | nevcairiel | they are evil if the content isnt actually a single line |
| 22:14.49 | nevcairiel | like here |
| 22:16.31 | foxlit | basically, perl went "hey, we're disallowing if (foo) bar();" |
| 22:16.54 | foxlit | (or rather replacing that with as "bar() if (foo);") |
| 22:17.14 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt know, I managed to remain happy and fullfilled and not learn perl =p |
| 22:17.22 | foxlit | "so all conditional blocks now have curly braces" |
| 22:17.33 | foxlit | "so we need a token for elseif" |
| 22:18.18 | nevcairiel | well you could add curlys to my demo and it would start working, but of course then it actually is different, and not only added whitespace |
| 22:37.47 | Dagmar | THey didn't replace that |
| 22:37.54 | Dagmar | That syntax was always correct |
| 22:38.35 | Dagmar | The lack of braces just led to some parsing conditions which varied from impossible to "extrememly likely to be misinterpreted by a programmer" |
| 22:39.09 | Dagmar | thing() if (condition); works because of the same rules as shortcut operations |
| 22:39.36 | foxlit | the original context for "replace" was a comparison with C |
| 22:40.32 | Dagmar | At least we're all on the same page about single-operation conditionals without braces being the debbils work |
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| 22:41.15 | Dagmar | ...and I don't know about nev's example. |
| 22:41.27 | Dagmar | Perl doesn't give a fuck about where you put whitespace |
| 22:41.46 | Dagmar | else-newline-if is parsed not even a little bit differently from else-space-if |
| 22:42.19 | Dagmar | elsif is just shorter to parse |
| 22:42.33 | nevcairiel | it was just to demonstrate that you dont need special handling for "else if", its just a norma if..else chain with further nested if..else blocks |
| 22:42.45 | pompy | https://www.facebook.com/tom.bennett.524596/posts/10153359851199189 i agree |
| 22:42.48 | nevcairiel | its just not written like that, because that would be crazy |
| 22:42.59 | foxlit | and the point is that perl would probably require else { if |
| 22:43.07 | Dagmar | It actually doesn't. |
| 22:43.55 | Dagmar | perl does thing() if condition(); somewhat magically because it evaluates expressions according to precedent rules like MDAS |
| 22:44.35 | Dagmar | It doesn't do left-to-right-until-we-see-a-spot-of-math |
| 22:47.03 | foxlit | I'm going to assume you were responding to nev. |
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| 22:48.41 | Dagmar | YOu *can* because it's just a passive piece of the emissions system that gases pass throught |
| 22:48.44 | Dagmar | @#$@#$ chan |
| 22:49.10 | Thunder_Child | ~calm Dagmar |
| 22:49.10 | purl | ACTION sooths Dagmar, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm Dagmar down. |
| 22:52.23 | Dagmar | foxlit: Mostly. Part of perl's "weirdness" is avoiding the sins of C, and the other part is more or less black voodoo |
| 22:52.45 | Dagmar | Gotta hand it to them tho, expanding the MDAS methods to apply to teh everything is pretty slick |
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| 23:16.25 | Dagmar | Wait... telephony bots that simulate angry callers? |
| 23:16.32 | Dagmar | God damn I want a copy of that |
| 23:17.36 | Dagmar | Somehow I don't see a bot losing it's cool and saying "If you lie to me again I will kill everyone you ever loved" |
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