| 00:01.11 | foxlit | it's not like its the certificate cost thats killing security here. |
| 00:01.22 | Dagmar | It's mainly the ignorance. |
| 00:01.37 | Dagmar | Widespread, sweeping ignorance. |
| 00:01.58 | Dagmar | The lock turns red, and people just assume it's a website theme change, unworthy of notice. |
| 00:03.01 | foxlit | wowi and curse, for example, both serve both addons and md5 hashes of addons over http, so who knows what you're actually downloading. |
| 00:03.27 | Semlar | viruses, probably |
| 00:03.28 | Amarande | Dagmar: well, even some hosting providers don't make it easy |
| 00:03.41 | Amarande | like I recall from my experiences with Dreamhost and trying to get my mail over HTTPS |
| 00:03.42 | foxlit | clearly not a price-of-certificate issue there. |
| 00:03.42 | Dagmar | Don't make what easy? |
| 00:03.49 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 00:04.03 | Amarande | although mail is kind of a thorny issue specifically like that |
| 00:04.27 | Amarande | you have the central mail servers for the hosting provider, while the security system basically wants to see a separate dedicated host for each one so it can validate certs |
| 00:04.54 | Amarande | in some cases, IIRC, it even requires a unique IP address, i.e., to provide properly secure mail the host may need a unique IP for each customer domain just for the sake of getting the cert matching to go right |
| 00:05.01 | Amarande | ... and we don't have that many IPv4 to go around ... |
| 00:05.05 | Dagmar | This is why there's a SAN field. |
| 00:05.15 | Dagmar | It's been there since 2004. |
| 00:05.38 | Dagmar | Actually, it's been there since before 2000, but it took until 2004 for IE to stop ignoring it, so it's just _now_ starting to come into use |
| 00:05.50 | Dagmar | It lets you have one SSL certificate that can authenticate for multiple hostnames. |
| 00:06.12 | Dagmar | You can basically blame *all* that on Microsoft. |
| 00:06.57 | foxlit | that seems impractical. |
| 00:07.19 | Dagmar | Getting an SSL cert with a couple of extra DNS names attached via a SAN component is actually not much of an additional cost, either. |
| 00:07.34 | Dagmar | foxlit: How so? |
| 00:07.40 | foxlit | "central mail servers for the hosting provider" |
| 00:08.21 | foxlit | presumably your average shared webhost; number of domains per actual machine would be excessive. |
| 00:09.29 | Dagmar | I'll buy that. There are a few ways a hosting provider can fuck up with that if they don't beat their marketing people on a regular basis |
| 00:09.30 | pompy | http://how-old.net/# |
| 00:09.43 | kd3 | only a few? |
| 00:10.06 | Dagmar | It doesn't take many when the big one is "YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING THROUGH YOUR OWN PERSONALIZED HOSTNAME!" |
| 00:10.46 | foxlit | san does fix the "I have a few different domains and can't use a wildcard or separate certificates" problem, but shared hosting is something else. |
| 00:11.30 | Dagmar | I don't think you can just throw a bunch of certificates at the browser and hope one will stick |
| 00:12.01 | foxlit | I'm mainly thinking of SNI. |
| 00:12.47 | Dagmar | Ah |
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| 00:25.44 | Amarande | Dagmar: yeah, I'm getting the sad feeling that the days of people being able to use their own domain for anything but Web are pretty much done :| |
| 00:25.46 | Amarande | especially for email |
| 00:26.08 | Amarande | about the only thing that seems like it might save it now is IPv6 actually making it out of purgatory, perhaps |
| 00:26.41 | Amarande | but I'm not even sure how likely that is, vs. the Internet just slowly degrading into a less and less usable service as things like CG-NAT are put out instead to deal with addressing |
| 00:26.54 | Amarande | (and also may serve as an end run around net neutrality come to think of it *sigh*) |
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| 01:32.37 | jleclanche | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naDCCW5TSpU |
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| 01:52.13 | kd3 | artifacting much |
| 01:52.53 | pompy | indeed |
| 01:53.32 | Thunder_Child | I hate game of thrones and no one has pointed a tank at me yet. |
| 01:53.56 | Amarande | well ... yay, at least mozilla also supports the retention of legacy http URLs |
| 01:55.23 | pompy | points tank at Thunder_Child |
| 01:57.03 | Thunder_Child | ~lart pompy |
| 01:57.03 | purl | DoSes pompy |
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| 02:00.54 | pompy | rough |
| 02:09.25 | Amarande | sooo ... seeing as here I am in the mid 70s ... did the stat squish make the Cataclysm transition nice and smooth or is it still bumpy coming straight out of LK quest gear? |
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| 02:29.04 | fewyn | blackhand is totally balanced for 10 people /s |
| 02:29.28 | kullervo | yeah it totally is |
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| 02:33.24 | Amarande | smaller the raid the more brutal it gets, it seems |
| 02:33.33 | Amarande | that's part of why FFXIV's EX Primals are so teeth-kicking |
| 02:38.56 | Amarande | it has to be that way though I suppose |
| 02:39.12 | Amarande | imagine if 25 man raids leaned on every single member as strongly as 10 mans, or as FFXIV or SW:TOR's 8 mans |
| 02:39.37 | Amarande | you'd probably never clear content unless you bribed ISP executives to ensure everyone got a clear link at the same time LOL |
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| 02:51.39 | Arrowmaster | does anybody know if amazons occasional 30% coins back promotion on hearthstone cards applies to the single player expansions as well? |
| 02:59.21 | pompy | :o |
| 03:01.24 | Amarande | oh yay, blue sky logging grounds is under attack again |
| 03:01.29 | Amarande | feels like it's still Wrath sometimes LOL |
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| 03:30.55 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/WoWScrnShot_050115_035412.jpg |
| 03:31.00 | kullervo | character complete |
| 03:31.12 | tz | kinky |
| 03:32.37 | kullervo | one on the left is freakishly tall |
| 03:32.57 | kullervo | and the one at the back can't deal dps |
| 03:32.58 | kullervo | but I love them all the same |
| 03:40.17 | Semlar | it's a ho wide world out there |
| 03:42.33 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: hey what the hell, i had curse points subtracted 3 days ago? |
| 03:43.23 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Yeah, there was an error. Everyone had the subtraction. If you'll notice, though, the next day and the day after you got more than you had before the loss - the system correcting itself. |
| 03:45.25 | Torhal | ...well, for everything save LibTourist - seems to have taken a hit. |
| 03:47.05 | Neffi | Semlar: who u callin a ho, ho? |
| 03:47.16 | Semlar | you ho who you are |
| 03:47.32 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Semlar |
| 03:47.32 | purl | eats Semlar and falls over dead |
| 03:47.38 | Neffi | o.o |
| 03:49.40 | Semlar | :O |
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| 04:30.30 | Arrowmaster | wow first game with a zoo deck i just put together from what cards i had and i won |
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| 04:52.21 | Dagmar | So your losing streak is over, then? |
| 04:55.06 | Arrowmaster | i havent had a losing streak |
| 04:55.45 | Arrowmaster | i got to rank 19 with almost constant win streak bonuses on my mage deck |
| 04:59.23 | Dagmar | I'm just messing with you |
| 04:59.37 | Dagmar | You, of all the people in here, are the person I expect to be crushing Hearthstone |
| 05:01.27 | Arrowmaster | i never really played it much before |
| 05:01.34 | Arrowmaster | card games arent my thing |
| 05:14.05 | Arrowmaster | i dont get rogues, they always use weapons to take out my big minions and just hurt themselves doing it |
| 05:14.41 | jleclanche | health is a resource |
| 05:14.52 | jleclanche | it doesnt matter if you end the game at 1hp or 30hp as long as you win |
| 05:15.39 | jleclanche | Dagmar: are you into hs? |
| 05:16.08 | Dagmar | Not really |
| 05:16.18 | Dagmar | There's just too much random in it for me |
| 05:16.19 | jleclanche | blah nobody is in this chan |
| 05:16.21 | jleclanche | :( |
| 05:16.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah too random |
| 05:16.36 | jleclanche | the randomness is what makes it fun |
| 05:18.22 | Arrowmaster | ill probably buy some amazon coins next time they do a 30% deal and get both the adventures and some more cards but its just a random time killer for me right now |
| 05:19.21 | Arrowmaster | i only bought a 50 pack of cards in the alpha, have not disenchanted (other than those i have 3 of) or crafted any cards |
| 05:20.38 | Amarande | ... wow Turbine is getting desperate ... glad I didn't buy Helm's Deep |
| 05:20.58 | Amarande | just saw their new dev diary. the whole "imbued legendary items" system basically has "pay to win" painted all over it |
| 05:53.11 | Shirik | http://i.gyazo.com/dde87a46f9be7af9d6cdd5553abc0bff.png |
| 05:53.13 | Shirik | I don't even what |
| 06:20.41 | Fisker | I'm tired Shirik |
| 06:20.43 | Fisker | T I R E D |
| 06:24.56 | jleclanche | oh sweet! four of my dummy accounts have been invited to the Heroes of the Storm⢠"Closed" Beta! |
| 06:25.05 | jleclanche | and 4 of each of their friends! |
| 06:25.28 | jleclanche | whatever will i do with my 16 friends. |
| 06:26.36 | jleclanche | RE4EZB-8D2Y-PJF6GF-94V2-EBF4JH -- YYGB6Y-78PT-HZ826M-BTHB-B2FV92 -- 4VM96F-68CT-FYTCFC-MGW8-689JHY -- 768CF2-8JYJ-F9ETTJ-ZEXB-YXMVPV |
| 06:26.38 | jleclanche | if anyone wants ^ |
| 06:26.40 | jleclanche | cba with the rest. |
| 06:51.35 | Arrowmaster | jleclanche: send me a few and ill make sure they get used |
| 06:51.44 | Arrowmaster | im going to bed now though |
| 06:52.01 | jleclanche | sent you another 4 |
| 06:52.27 | Arrowmaster | alright ill see who needs them when i get up |
| 06:54.19 | Arrowmaster | do the people that activate those get more invites? |
| 06:54.55 | jleclanche | idk |
| 06:55.06 | jleclanche | also those are eu. |
| 06:55.12 | Arrowmaster | oh crap |
| 06:55.20 | Arrowmaster | no use to me then |
| 06:55.59 | Arrowmaster | ok seriously tired |
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| 07:52.32 | d[karl]b | compendium is out VIad |
| 07:58.30 | d[karl]b | $320k already raised |
| 07:58.41 | VIad | wow - getting it now :D |
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| 13:19.40 | Apple_ | hi, can anyone help me? i am working on code to get the time until my energy caps out to be displayed in seconds. i need to take into account Heroism, Weapon enchant and some other haste-affecting effects. I am retrieving timestamps for when these effects end, and i need a loop to run through these timestamps in ascending order. |
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| 13:21.06 | raydion | Hello people, good morning/midday/afternoon/evening/night to everyone. |
| 13:22.04 | raydion | Is there a method to block addon messages in such a way you won't be sent nor sending those? |
| 13:23.37 | raydion | I've managed to set up something that would kick me straight out of custom channels (for example, PremadeFilter custom channel), but BigWigs/DBM seem to be sending through a Raid chat for example. |
| 13:30.23 | mikma | modifying the addon is propably the easiest way |
| 13:32.00 | raydion | I'm going to look into that - thanks! |
| 13:32.31 | raydion | <- plays WoW on a throttled tethered smartphone. |
| 13:33.26 | znf | So you're looking to save up to 1KB/sec? :-/ |
| 13:33.51 | raydion | When it comes to around 6 KB/sec, yes. ;) |
| 13:34.00 | raydion | That is like one sixth! |
| 13:34.29 | mikma | i'd say that disable the addons before you'll modify it |
| 13:35.03 | raydion | I'd like to keep BigWigs for raiding. :) |
| 13:35.21 | mikma | broadcast is pretty much *the* thing that makes the addon required |
| 13:36.43 | raydion | That's a shame :/ |
| 13:37.39 | NuSuey | hmhm.. what would be the easiest way how to display a copy-pastable mesage? |
| 13:38.00 | NuSuey | raydion: that must be awful .. |
| 13:38.13 | znf | NuSuey, editbox |
| 13:39.22 | raydion | NuSuey: Yup. |
| 13:40.39 | raydion | Perhaps I should put people on ignore instead as I've read on some outdated addon. |
| 13:40.54 | Semlar | Apple_: http://pastebin.com/FJecgT8w |
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| 13:42.55 | Apple_ | semlar thx but the problem is that things like heroism, energizing brew, weapon proc, dragonspine trophy all affect regen rate, and there is no guarantee that those effects will not expire *before* you cap out |
| 13:43.34 | Semlar | sure, but you'd need a list of every aura that might affect your regen rate in the game to factor that in |
| 13:43.58 | Semlar | and the difference is going to be a fraction of a second |
| 13:43.59 | Apple_ | only the ones that could expire. and i have that : ) |
| 13:44.17 | Apple_ | it's liable to be a lot more on an empty energy bar when hero is about to expire |
| 13:46.20 | Semlar | the premise behind my crack cooldown addon is to display the time remaining until you regen enough energy to cast a spell on your action buttons |
| 13:46.53 | Semlar | there are so many factors that affect your current energy pool and your regen rate that i think it's going to be very difficult to get an accurate measurement for this |
| 13:48.01 | Apple_ | it's really not a big deal, the main problem is that the weapon enchant gives 10 stacks which fall off one at a time, and i don't want to be checking for each of those stacks individually |
| 13:48.43 | Semlar | an energy user is constantly spending chunks of energy at a time, it's going to jump around a lot |
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| 13:49.13 | Apple_ | i play monk, and energy is a bitch for us |
| 13:49.43 | WrathTECH | Someone want to go sell for me at a sale so I can go back to bed, 3 hours isn't cutting it |
| 13:50.57 | Semlar | if you know what buffs you want to take into account and how much they affect your regen, what do you need help with |
| 13:55.00 | Semlar | you start with the time remaining until you regen enough energy to cap out based on your current rate, then for each buff expected to expire before that you adjust it based on the remaining time |
| 14:00.41 | Semlar | my personal feeling, although this is coming from a hunter's standpoint, is that the time estimate is only meaningful for that instant that the player is checking it, as it can change drastically based on what they do next |
| 14:02.47 | Apple_ | yes semlar, that is exactly what i intend to do |
| 14:03.21 | Apple_ | i think i have what i need by now but the problem i came in here for is that those weapon enchants have 10 stacks each |
| 14:03.30 | Apple_ | and you can have 2 of those active |
| 14:04.13 | Apple_ | so it's not straightforward to calculate exactly how much you need to compensate |
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| 14:07.18 | Semlar | i don't know about monks, but compared to cobra shot, temporary haste buffs have a marginal impact on how much time it will take to generate enough energy to cast a spell |
| 14:08.05 | Apple_ | well yeah certainly |
| 14:08.17 | Apple_ | but focus is generated by ability use, energy is not |
| 14:08.23 | Apple_ | it is only generated over time |
| 14:09.29 | Apple_ | and for monks, consuming energy hardly does any damage directly. it generates chi, and chi consumption is where all the damage comes from |
| 14:09.54 | Apple_ | so this means you want to maximally use chi while procs are up, and maximally use energy while they are not |
| 14:10.04 | Apple_ | hence the importance of knowing when your energy will cap out |
| 14:10.16 | Apple_ | in seconds, so that you can line up your cooldowns accordingly |
| 14:28.50 | karl_w_w | http://www.reddit.com/r/CitiesSkylines/comments/34hdxj/noticed_this_today_when_passengers_come_out_of/ znf |
| 14:29.38 | znf | I don't get it |
| 14:29.42 | znf | I'm on my phone |
| 14:32.52 | karl_w_w | just a detail |
| 14:33.18 | karl_w_w | passengers get off a plane go business people first and then tourists |
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| 14:34.24 | nevcairiel | thats how it works in real life too, so shrug? |
| 14:35.37 | karl_w_w | that's why it's a detail and not a glitch, nevcairiel :P |
| 14:35.55 | Semlar | it's because the younger people are faster than the older people |
| 14:36.53 | Semlar | why is there a vending machine and doors on like an 8 foot ledge |
| 14:37.35 | karl_w_w | it's not, it's falling from the sky and it's about to squish that person |
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| 15:23.04 | jnwhiteh | rifts or bounties for leveling? |
| 15:25.42 | Semlar | to carry someone in t6? |
| 15:25.59 | Semlar | or solo |
| 15:26.37 | Semlar | i normally hit the act 1 bounties since they need the keystones and then do a rift or two |
| 15:40.11 | pompy | http://techcrunch.com/2015/04/30/grooveshark-sinks/ |
| 15:42.59 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/7InwdsQ.gifv |
| 15:43.54 | fewyn | why does the current expansion archaeologey stuff have to be on the second page? |
| 15:47.42 | Arrowmaster | i feel like im playing a zoo on my mage, i got both my haunted creapers and harvest golems at the beginning of the game |
| 15:49.21 | Arrowmaster | haha finally he wiped my board afer i got him down to 13 from my horde of 1/1 2/1 minions |
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| 15:58.35 | fewyn | i forgot i should never play hearthstone on the first of the month |
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| 15:59.29 | Ressy | ? |
| 15:59.36 | fewyn | ranks get reset |
| 15:59.38 | Ressy | oh |
| 15:59.44 | fewyn | so all the good players are down at the low ranks |
| 15:59.53 | Ressy | That... sucks. |
| 15:59.55 | fewyn | and i get cruuuuushed |
| 16:00.10 | Ressy | I get crushed no matter what... I still don't have my Hearthsteed. |
| 16:01.56 | Ackis | crushes Ressy |
| 16:06.50 | Ressy | :P |
| 16:08.09 | Arrowmaster | Ressy: what deck are you using? |
| 16:08.34 | Ressy | I guess basic? lol |
| 16:09.05 | Arrowmaster | are you rank 10 with mage? |
| 16:10.13 | Ressy | I lose like every game. |
| 16:10.25 | Ressy | I'm gonna bug Bryan for help. lol |
| 16:11.28 | Arrowmaster | build this deck and use it against the innkeeper until you get mage to rank 10 http://www.hearthhead.com/deck=31435/lvlup-on-ai-all-classes |
| 16:12.33 | Arrowmaster | then after you do that to unlock the basic mage cards build this deck for ranked play http://hearthstoneplayers.com/beginner-deck-tech-basic-mage/ |
| 16:12.56 | Ressy | cool! Thank you :) |
| 16:13.22 | Arrowmaster | i followed that guild and went from rank 25 to rank 18 from sunday to yesterday with almost constant wins |
| 16:13.29 | Ressy | cool! |
| 16:13.41 | Fisker | Can you get the steed in challenge a friend?? |
| 16:14.06 | Fisker | nope |
| 16:14.11 | Arrowmaster | everybody is probably playing ranked right now so unranked is probably the best to play |
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| 16:14.23 | Fisker | You could also do an arena run Ressy |
| 16:16.18 | Arrowmaster | i havent even gone into arena yet |
| 16:19.31 | Fisker | Well arenas are pretty good for learning the basics and getting cards in the meantime |
| 16:20.12 | Fisker | The playing field is a bit more level, though it is random, and should allow you to get some wins without being stomped in ranked |
| 16:20.36 | Fisker | If you don't know which card is best you can use one of the online arena drafters |
| 16:21.13 | Fisker | Of course if you don't know how to play the game efficiently then you're out of luck in either scenario |
| 16:31.51 | Arrowmaster | ah theres online arena drafters didnt know that |
| 16:38.23 | znf | NuSuey, you can make a StaticPopup be displayed when you need whatever you need, and you can pre-populate the text field with whatever you want the user to copy from there. |
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| 16:41.42 | Unkle | Station! |
| 16:42.08 | Gnarfoz | I thought we stopped using StaticPopups because taint? |
| 16:49.58 | g0urra | https://imgur.com/gallery/UpL7I /r/cringe |
| 16:51.13 | foxlit | #thanksforsharing |
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| 16:57.33 | Gnarfoz | they belong on /r/cringe because they're so old, not because of the content |
| 16:57.40 | kd3 | ^ |
| 17:07.54 | NuSuey | znf: guess I have to find out how to do that :) |
| 17:12.12 | znf | I remember reading a simple snippet on how to do it, but I can't remember where |
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| 17:17.35 | foxlit | just read the staticpopup implementation; like broccoli, it's good for you. |
| 17:25.22 | foxlit | so I have a button that opens a dropdown menu when clicked |
| 17:25.46 | foxlit | and, because I hate myself, it'll also open the dropdown menu if you just hover over that button for a small amount of time |
| 17:26.37 | foxlit | if you end up moving the mouse away, and the dropdown was opened through the hover mechanism, it'll close; if it was opened by a click, it wouldn't (ignoring default dropdown timeout shenanigans). |
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| 17:27.16 | Eol | Could anyone give me an example, or help me with an "icon-button" ? |
| 17:27.45 | foxlit | if you click the button to open the dropdown, and click it again, it'll close. If you hover over the button and then click it shortly after (because reflex), it'll keep it open, subsequently behaving as if the hover was never triggered, and you instead clicked the button to open it. |
| 17:28.14 | Eol | All I'm getting with this code is a neon green square: http://pastebin.com/zQL6NXSc |
| 17:28.26 | foxlit | and now I want all that for a custom frame, instead of a dropdown menu. HATE. EVERYTHING. |
| 17:28.34 | kd3 | use double-backslashes |
| 17:28.38 | kd3 | interface\\merchantframe |
| 17:29.22 | kd3 | wow displays that green box if it can't find the texture you're telling it to look for |
| 17:32.19 | Eol | ah, thanks |
| 17:37.58 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: what was that app you used to toggle locked/unlock bootloader? |
| 17:45.18 | Stanzilla | found it, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.segv11.bootunlocker&hl=en |
| 17:50.56 | znf | toggles Stanzilla |
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| 17:53.31 | fewyn | Anyone happen to know of a good way to check if a hard drive is failing on a linux box? |
| 17:53.52 | kd3 | smartctl -a /dev/foo |
| 17:57.37 | fewyn | if only i knew what any of this meant https://gist.github.com/e0f4ec8bbae2e86c9631 |
| 17:59.22 | kd3 | the last test failed, so it's on the way out |
| 17:59.30 | fewyn | that's what i thought |
| 17:59.32 | fewyn | thanks kd3 |
| 17:59.41 | fewyn | joy |
| 17:59.45 | fewyn | that's the OS drive too |
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| 18:12.12 | bluspacecow | @Cairenn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CORZYXxVrzY |
| 18:12.17 | bluspacecow | witness his fluffy tail! |
| 18:42.47 | Mr_Rabies | chows never can really jump or climb very well, they're weirdly proportioned dogs |
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| 19:04.16 | Gnarfoz | fewyn: your best chance to finally get an SSD for that, then! |
| 19:04.43 | fewyn | sure i'll go out back and take money from the money tree |
| 19:05.57 | Gnarfoz | if you can afford to replace the drive, you can afford to replace it with an SSD, most likely ;p if you can't afford to replace it in the first place, your job search seems to not be going so well |
| 19:06.15 | fewyn | it's not going well at all |
| 19:06.27 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 19:06.42 | fewyn | i'm looking into going back to call center work atm |
| 19:06.49 | fewyn | which i really loathed |
| 19:06.53 | fewyn | but not many options |
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| 19:27.35 | Cairenn | chow chow puppy!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 19:29.48 | kd3 | imagine if we still had to deal with these prices: https://twitter.com/Kaelten/status/594214909291823104 |
| 19:30.19 | fewyn | thank god we don't |
| 19:33.41 | kd3 | grr... pull a new device out of the box and it's spamming me to update everything |
| 19:33.50 | fewyn | UPDATEEEEEE ALL THE THINGS |
| 19:33.59 | fewyn | the new preview build of windows10 is niiiiiice |
| 19:34.05 | fewyn | it also has Edge in it |
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| 19:40.47 | kd3 | amazing what I find when I'm cleaning out my closet even more in prep for a move... https://twitter.com/Kaydeethree/status/594224844536938496 |
| 19:41.11 | fewyn | hahaha zip drive |
| 19:41.22 | fewyn | and the old 5.25 floppies |
| 19:41.27 | fewyn | 5.25 right? |
| 19:41.29 | kd3 | yup |
| 19:41.30 | fewyn | i think that's right |
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| 19:41.50 | fewyn | i threw a bunch of those out a year ago before i moved to texas |
| 19:41.59 | fewyn | had kept them for 20ish years |
| 19:42.13 | kd3 | those tax-cut floppies are copyright 1992 |
| 19:42.17 | kd3 | I think they can go |
| 19:42.25 | kd3 | maybe to a museum or something |
| 19:42.46 | Torhal | kd3: Load 'em up and see how much simpler tax laws were? :D |
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| 19:43.06 | kd3 | that's the hard part. I don't have anything physically capable of reading either |
| 19:43.27 | Torhal | :/ |
| 19:43.59 | kd3 | the only floppy readers I find are for 3.5"s |
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| 19:50.29 | zenzelezz | I've seen 3-minute ads on Youtube before... but never for BMW :-o |
| 19:55.03 | Arrowmaster | ive never seen ads on youtube |
| 19:56.38 | zenzelezz | I use Youtube often enough that I think it's only reasonable to let the 15-second ones roll |
| 20:30.34 | pompy | gg https://blog.malwarebytes.org/fraud-scam/2015/05/tech-support-scam-source-code-found-on-github |
| 20:36.13 | winny | using github for malware hosting is pretty fun |
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| 21:12.01 | Arrowmaster | I am pleased to make an annoucement |
| 21:12.08 | Fisker | Good |
| 21:12.10 | Fisker | Me too |
| 21:12.14 | Fisker | I love you Arrowmaster |
| 21:12.16 | Arrowmaster | I just got a job offer for a Network Helpdesk Technician |
| 21:12.23 | Fisker | Oh great |
| 21:12.37 | Gethe | grats |
| 21:12.42 | Arrowmaster | my first full time non contract employment |
| 21:12.46 | Shirik | :D |
| 21:12.49 | Arrowmaster | I GET BENEFITS! |
| 21:13.03 | Fisker | I thought that was with friends? |
| 21:13.06 | Arrowmaster | hell i think im salery |
| 21:13.17 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: i have plenty of those already |
| 21:13.22 | nevcairiel | but noone likes selery |
| 21:13.36 | Arrowmaster | i like that too |
| 21:14.27 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: I hope they cover mental health care well ... you pretty much need that when you're working a help desk :) |
| 21:14.56 | Arrowmaster | well its a Network Helpdesk at a Business ISP |
| 21:15.05 | Ressy | and massage therapy |
| 21:15.08 | Amarande | Also lawyer fee insurance for when you just can't resist clocking someone over the head with the corner of a gadget :) |
| 21:15.10 | nevcairiel | I'm happy with my contract work, i make lots of money and can take care of my own benefits =p |
| 21:15.13 | Fisker | Even worse |
| 21:15.23 | Fisker | But congratulations |
| 21:15.35 | Fisker | Job is better than no job |
| 21:15.43 | Arrowmaster | im going to have to hide my cigar smoking from the health insurance though |
| 21:17.04 | nevcairiel | that seems risky, they'll always try to not pay, and you give them plenty ammo =p |
| 21:17.33 | Amarande | heh these days by the time health insurance kicks in you're probably already well on your way to bankruptcy anyway |
| 21:17.33 | Arrowmaster | they just want to charge smokers double for insurance |
| 21:17.38 | Amarande | especially if it's cheap insurance |
| 21:17.50 | Amarande | there's a reason I pay the "shared responsibility fee" at tax time instead of carrying insurance :| |
| 21:17.56 | Arrowmaster | its not one of the places that has a complete no smoking policy |
| 21:19.24 | Arrowmaster | so today i also got a call from a recruiter for a position that pays more but is desktop support, i dont really see a future doing desktop support though compared to getting more networking experience |
| 21:20.30 | Amarande | yeah, what is the current long term view on the future of desktops vs. heavily networked, lightweightly cliented cloud experiences anyway heh |
| 21:21.33 | Amarande | the appearance on the horizon of Windows 10 has already made me want to prepare my permanent exit from Windows desktop usage (which also means I might have to give up PC gaming, I suppose, depending on how well Wine supports this or that, but ...) |
| 21:21.41 | Arrowmaster | well desktop support only gets you experience doing desktop support, theres no upward momentum in that position |
| 21:22.17 | Amarande | three absolutely dreadful words in the latest W10 buzz |
| 21:22.40 | Arrowmaster | i have a degree in Network Engineering and could have taken and passed the CCNA exam many years ago |
| 21:22.56 | Amarande | "lock screen ads" |
| 21:23.01 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 21:23.02 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 21:23.28 | Amarande | I have to say I have to hand it to MS for being *especially* smooth in their machinations now heh |
| 21:23.37 | Amarande | Metro? Everyone was worrying about "oh it's gonna kill the desktop" and all that |
| 21:23.44 | Stanzilla | eh first its not ads, its suggestions and you can turn it off |
| 21:23.51 | Stanzilla | and it isreally well done |
| 21:24.01 | Amarande | ... we should have been more thinking about "it adds an advertisement/marketing infrastructure at the OS level" |
| 21:25.24 | Amarande | well yeah, I have the lock screen in 8.1 turned off altogether via Group Policy (which makes me wonder if the free upgrade to 10 is going to retain "Pro" status or downgrade back to "regular" where you have to use regedit to do things you use gpedit for in Pro) |
| 21:26.47 | Amarande | (wait, was it that I needed group policy for, or not automatically restarting on its schedule rather than mine for updates, or was that both ...) |
| 21:30.42 | Amarande | Stanzilla: the question is just what kind of underlying infrastructure there is to serve these 'suggestions', though |
| 21:31.13 | Stanzilla | why is that relevant |
| 21:31.38 | Stanzilla | the lock screen is just an app and uses the store api |
| 21:31.41 | Stanzilla | (that is the answer btw) |
| 21:31.49 | Amarande | Suggestions and ads are one thing. You pass by the billboard for the local plumber on your way to work, or the guy at the grocery store asks you if you want to sample the chicken salad, for instance, and there's nothing of note about that because, well, it's not like the billboard or the grocery store guy are rifling through your individual records and interests to suggest things. |
| 21:32.05 | Amarande | On the other hand, Windows is presumably sampling our activity in some way, shape, or form in order to target suggestions I'm presuming, no? |
| 21:32.20 | Stanzilla | the lock screen has suggestions for apps, shows you random nice images from bing |
| 21:32.24 | Stanzilla | explains cortana for you |
| 21:32.25 | Stanzilla | etc |
| 21:32.31 | Stanzilla | it's a way to show you something new every day |
| 21:32.33 | Stanzilla | if you dont want that |
| 21:32.34 | Stanzilla | disable it |
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