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| 01:07.35 | Iriel | Ooh, wowtoken.info added more lines and labels |
| 01:07.39 | Iriel | Maybe there is a god |
| 01:09.40 | MiRai | someone in here is the one who is operating it and is listening >_> |
| 01:14.40 | Iriel | If thatâs true, then I expect an auto-refresh meta tag to show up at some point (10 minutes should be sufficient, or be clever and use the maximum of 30 seconds or âtime until next expected updateâ) |
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| 01:17.47 | fewyn | it's made by a wowhead employee i think |
| 01:17.51 | fewyn | so wouldn't be surprised |
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| 01:46.47 | Shirik | so today I got the best error message |
| 01:46.56 | Shirik | It told me I can't log out because my password expired |
| 01:49.44 | Iriel | Whose bright idea was THAT? |
| 01:52.43 | Constie | That was my idea. Sorry. |
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| 02:00.22 | Shirik | Iriel: I think the way it works is that in order to log out it first tries to connect to the server so that it can issue the "invalidate login token" request, which is immediately balking saying "your password has expired" |
| 02:00.52 | Shirik | but I was really amused when I first saw it |
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| 02:28.31 | Simca_ | BRF elevators make me so mad |
| 02:28.45 | Simca_ | we lose somebody every run back to the elevator DC boss |
| 02:28.55 | Simca_ | it's so freaking stupid |
| 02:31.46 | kullervo | I have tested and verified that follower's ilvl doesn't affect bodyguard damage |
| 02:32.05 | kullervo | someone else has verified it does affect garrison patrol damage |
| 02:33.01 | Iriel | znf: You got your wish, wowtoken.info is now interactive |
| 02:33.15 | kd3 | yay, a clickable chart |
| 02:33.35 | kd3 | <3 wowtokeninfo webmaster, whoever you are |
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| 02:36.55 | Iriel | Itâs a bit confusing that the mouseover timezone is browser local time but the Updated time is a fixed timezone |
| 02:41.44 | znf | and it's still dropping |
| 02:41.48 | znf | oh |
| 02:41.49 | znf | you're right |
| 02:41.50 | znf | lol |
| 02:41.53 | znf | weird timezone crap |
| 02:42.16 | znf | kullervo, I call bullshit on that, I'm 99.99% sure it doesn't affect it at all |
| 02:43.30 | kullervo | znf: well you can try that yourself |
| 02:43.37 | Simca_ | it does |
| 02:43.45 | Simca_ | it changes their armor and weapons |
| 02:43.57 | Simca_ | I'm pretty sure the ilvl doesn't matter |
| 02:44.11 | Simca_ | just every 'rank' - they upgrade gear every 15 ilvls |
| 02:44.21 | Simca_ | but like 615 vs 629 probably is the same |
| 02:44.48 | Simca_ | bodyguards are different and their appearance/damage is controlled by rep though |
| 02:44.56 | kullervo | 14 ilvl difference leroy jenkins reported different numbers |
| 02:45.04 | Simca_ | oh ho |
| 02:45.34 | kullervo | leroy jenkins being the best dps of everything this guy had |
| 02:46.07 | Simca_ | can people still patrol with you during invasions? |
| 02:46.25 | kullervo | yes, but it was nerfed to one patrol per garrison and only leader can pick it |
| 02:46.32 | Simca_ | ah k |
| 02:49.58 | kullervo | I hear the ogron follower deals ridiculous damage |
| 02:50.12 | kullervo | like oneshotting the trash ridiculous |
| 02:50.13 | Simca_ | BLOOK BEST BLOOK |
| 02:51.33 | Iriel | I wonder if Descent: Underground (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/descendentstudios/descent-underground) is going to make it |
| 02:53.31 | Iriel | Is subscription cheaper if you buy gold fromo an illicit gold seller than use that to buy tokens yet? |
| 02:59.25 | Semlar | yes |
| 02:59.55 | Iriel | That canât be good. |
| 03:01.00 | Semlar | it's like $12 for 20k gold, judging by the picture posted earlier |
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| 03:02.04 | znf | you can check it on zamgold |
| 03:02.08 | Semlar | anyway, their prices are always going to be forced under whatever the going rate is from blizzard or they couldn't do business |
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| 03:30.07 | znf | oooh |
| 03:30.11 | znf | price token is increasing |
| 03:30.12 | znf | token price |
| 03:30.13 | znf | w/e |
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| 04:48.55 | znf | the token is still rising! |
| 04:50.04 | A-KO | it bottomed out fast |
| 04:50.09 | A-KO | it was 31k yesterday... |
| 04:53.18 | Ivnedar | I wonder if someone's charting it somewhere |
| 04:53.27 | Ivnedar | or do Blizzard post one? |
| 04:53.36 | Ivnedar | It was 31k when I looked yesterday, then 22k when I looked again |
| 04:54.35 | Trela | https://wowtoken.info/ |
| 04:55.32 | Ivnedar | thanks :) |
| 05:02.35 | ajmitch | Ivnedar: going to spend some gold & return? :) |
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| 05:11.47 | Ivnedar | ajmitch: my account's still active for another week or so |
| 05:12.12 | Ivnedar | logged in one when 6.1 came out and haven't since :) |
| 05:12.22 | ajmitch | heh |
| 05:14.24 | ajmitch | we managed to recruit fun to heal for us anyway |
| 05:25.09 | Ivnedar | I saw :D |
| 05:41.43 | Stanzilla | http://digg.com/video/rude-lady-asks-for-a-cigarette-gets-a-remix-instead?utm_source=digg&utm_medium=facebook :D |
| 05:51.39 | Trela | D...Digg? |
| 06:05.32 | karl_w_w | he dugg it up |
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| 06:41.34 | harl | dugg diggler? |
| 06:46.22 | karl_w_w | dirk diggler. |
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| 07:11.17 | VIad | dirge |
| 07:13.27 | rid_ | dirge dickler |
| 07:19.51 | Sintacks | Mr_Rabies, i easily spend $100 a week in gas. |
| 07:19.53 | Sintacks | er |
| 07:20.01 | Sintacks | how the fuck did i hit the up key and enter |
| 07:20.14 | Sintacks | whatever |
| 07:20.20 | Sintacks | what was i going to say anyway.... |
| 07:20.28 | Sintacks | dickler's VIad |
| 07:22.19 | Mr_Rabies | sweet |
| 07:22.21 | Mr_Rabies | give me dollars |
| 07:23.26 | karl_w_w | Mr_Rabies, i easily spend $100 a week in gas. |
| 07:26.05 | Mr_Rabies | maaaaaan |
| 07:26.30 | Mr_Rabies | i was watching a video i edited together and now i want this week's episode of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure now :( |
| 07:28.24 | Mr_Rabies | if anyone's curious, it's this, which only JoJo-variety turbonerds will get: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-WC6izjSyFacTFpcWUzWjVmcjQ/view?pli=1 |
| 07:40.54 | harl | ew.. |
| 07:41.04 | harl | what's that.. |
| 07:42.46 | rid_ | fuck is this |
| 07:43.08 | rid_ | my coworkers now think im gay :( |
| 07:43.25 | harl | there are coworkers? |
| 07:43.33 | stuf | what'd you do, suck a phallus? |
| 07:46.35 | rid_ | nope stuf |
| 07:47.19 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 07:47.48 | Mr_Rabies | i changed the music to the Pillar Men's theme from JoJo |
| 07:49.10 | Mr_Rabies | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yvsJn9Ncsk [JoJo Spoilers herein] |
| 07:50.38 | Mr_Rabies | they're fabulous and swole and 100% JoJo |
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| 08:21.09 | harl | err.. Oo |
| 08:24.10 | mikma | mr_rabies: really fabulous |
| 08:27.09 | Mr_Rabies | they're basically the ultimate beings in the JoJo universe, basically mesoamerican gods |
| 08:27.28 | Mr_Rabies | "The Ultimate Lifeform" |
| 08:28.15 | Mr_Rabies | they feared a certain cadre of humans who practiced Ripple magic overtaking them so they killed them all, or so they thought! |
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| 14:45.07 | Ackis | so tired =/ |
| 14:45.19 | bluspacecow | wat do ? |
| 14:45.38 | Ackis | didn't sleep well apparently |
| 14:46.19 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 14:51.00 | rid_ | :( |
| 14:51.50 | Gnarfoz | solution: go back to bed |
| 14:52.07 | harl | no way |
| 14:53.12 | Ackis | saddest music video ever: https://youtu.be/v-szHLX_0Q0?list=RDMMcAnQQcIncq0 |
| 14:59.45 | harl | hum.. it's a fair song and video.. i wouldn't call it sad though |
| 15:05.02 | harl | whose playlist is that |
| 15:10.01 | harl | most of those videos or accounts i have already liked or subscribed too respectively |
| 15:10.10 | harl | *to |
| 15:10.29 | VIad | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PK-netuhHA |
| 15:13.03 | karl_w_w | according to out prime minister, not keeping innocent children in prison indefinitely would be "succumbing to the cries of the human rights lawyers" |
| 15:13.10 | karl_w_w | I should not read the news |
| 15:13.49 | karl_w_w | our* |
| 15:15.07 | Ackis | harl: it's a random playlist that came up for me |
| 15:15.21 | harl | i see.. cool |
| 15:15.32 | Ackis | also the video is sad because personal reasons - if you see the family holding up a picture of a man well that's what hurts |
| 15:15.46 | Ackis | Fisker: Huawei fones - dey gud? |
| 15:15.55 | Fisker | good one Ackis |
| 15:16.26 | Fisker | anyway I have no opinion |
| 15:16.51 | Ackis | my wife said they're big in asia and the prices are like 1/3rd of the other phones |
| 15:17.13 | Fisker | I know a lot of phones that are big in asia and are like 1/3rd of the other phones |
| 15:17.17 | Fisker | And also look like iphones |
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| 15:17.32 | Fisker | Anyway it's probably a decent brand |
| 15:17.41 | Fisker | I'd mostly be worried about the software |
| 15:17.58 | Ressy | They're also decent for network equipment |
| 15:18.09 | Ackis | Fisker: they're android methinks |
| 15:18.30 | Ackis | "Only Apple and Samsung have more market share than Huawei." |
| 15:18.59 | Fisker | I know they're android Ackis |
| 15:19.06 | Fisker | But they bake their own shit |
| 15:19.35 | znf | from a hardware point of view, they're cute |
| 15:19.35 | Ackis | so you're saying I"ll get Huawei apps instead of samsung apps integrated into the OS? :P |
| 15:19.55 | karl_w_w | well, they're a third of the price for a reason |
| 15:20.03 | znf | I personally find the Ascend P7 to be a pretty phone |
| 15:20.18 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/2015-04-09_18-20-14.jpg |
| 15:20.26 | karl_w_w | there's usually something crappy about them, like the processor or the screen |
| 15:20.30 | Fisker | more like their customizations might suck and the support might suck Ackis |
| 15:20.38 | kullervo | this really seems distasteful |
| 15:20.42 | Fisker | Though I guess as long as they come with gapps you're ensured the 18 months of updates |
| 15:20.50 | znf | Huawei has decent specs, kullervo |
| 15:20.59 | karl_w_w | so you might be able to find a model that you consider a bargain depending on your needs |
| 15:21.00 | znf | but like Fisker said |
| 15:21.09 | Fisker | The thing is that Samsung doesn't need $600 to make a phone |
| 15:21.12 | znf | the software is what usually sucks |
| 15:21.28 | kullervo | znf: they do, but some consider the brand untrustworthy |
| 15:21.47 | znf | brand is kind of irrelevant in many aspects, tbh |
| 15:21.55 | znf | up until recently, LG was considered a crap brand for smartphones |
| 15:22.04 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 15:22.05 | znf | after their nexus... |
| 15:22.21 | znf | nexus' ? |
| 15:22.26 | znf | how do you pluralize that? >_< |
| 15:22.30 | Fisker | nexii! |
| 15:22.46 | znf | yeah, w/e :D |
| 15:23.13 | Fisker | But yeah since Samsung only needs like $200 to make a phone, Huawei just don't put a $400 premium on top (or whatever they sell it for) |
| 15:23.13 | znf | Huawei needs to make a Nexus (and hopefully the rumours are true), and they'll climb up there with the big boys |
| 15:23.31 | harl | ackis: i see.. |
| 15:23.51 | Fisker | But all I can suggest is to look for a model that interests you and then look for reviews |
| 15:24.03 | harl | karl_w_w: got a link to those news? |
| 15:24.09 | Ackis | Nexus 6 interested me because it's big and sexy |
| 15:24.29 | Fisker | Nexus 6 is big and sexy Ackis |
| 15:24.30 | Fisker | get it |
| 15:24.30 | znf | Nexus 6 doesn't interest me because it's huge and pricey :D |
| 15:24.34 | Fisker | (just like me) |
| 15:24.36 | Fisker | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 15:24.40 | Ackis | yeah that's the problem - the pricey |
| 15:24.44 | Ackis | wow |
| 15:24.47 | Fisker | Blame US carriers :( |
| 15:24.55 | Ackis | but I'm Canada |
| 15:25.04 | znf | I don't buy subsidised phones anyway |
| 15:25.06 | znf | always unlocked, so meh |
| 15:25.13 | karl_w_w | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/09/tony-abbott-declares-only-the-coalition-strong-enough-to-stop-the-boats harl? |
| 15:25.17 | znf | oh, who here has a nexus5 used for ~1 year? |
| 15:25.19 | Fisker | http://www.anandtech.com/show/8655/the-huawei-ascend-mate-7-review/2 |
| 15:25.23 | karl_w_w | depends how far down the rabbit hole you want to go |
| 15:25.30 | Fisker | Their interface doesn't look like literally the worst thing in the world |
| 15:25.31 | znf | have you experienced any cracks on the side edge? |
| 15:25.49 | znf | Fisker, nope, but a friend who reviewed it for a local publication mentioned that it still lags sometimes (the UI) |
| 15:25.55 | Fisker | You don't launch a phone at $700 and then sell it for $400 in the rest of the world Ackis |
| 15:26.09 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 15:26.18 | harl | thanks, karl_w_w |
| 15:26.22 | Fisker | If I were getting a Huawei I would probably throw CM on it or something |
| 15:26.25 | znf | Impressive front camera, though |
| 15:27.06 | znf | I think they're first to put a 8MPx front-facing cam |
| 15:29.20 | znf | Ackis, the Ascend Mate 7 is also good |
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| 15:37.12 | Ressy | Ackis, I'd recommend the OnePlus, but they're not shipping to canada anymore because of the randomized duties. |
| 15:37.19 | Ressy | some paid nothing, some paid over $50 |
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| 15:41.23 | jnwhiteh | has anyone noticed me disconnecting/reconnecting? |
| 15:42.40 | karl_w_w | not even once jnwhiteh |
| 15:42.49 | jnwhiteh | hrm, thanks |
| 15:44.02 | karl_w_w | I've got 3 days of channel history and you've been here the whole time |
| 15:45.05 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: your last reconnect was 2015-04-04 13:38:46 according to my logs |
| 15:45.20 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 15:45.27 | Fisker | hate you btw Maldivia |
| 15:45.42 | Maldivia | Fisker: the feeling is mutual :D |
| 15:45.45 | Fisker | \o/ |
| 15:46.22 | Fisker | :P |
| 15:47.56 | jnwhiteh | Maldivia: thanks, g2k |
| 15:48.53 | Fisker | :'( |
| 15:48.59 | Fisker | bah can't play bfh |
| 15:51.03 | bluspacecow | kk bed tiems *wizes out of chat* |
| 16:13.59 | znf | looks at the filling in his hand |
| 16:14.06 | znf | yeah, I just had this put in yesterday at my dentist... |
| 16:21.40 | Thunder_Child | Time for a new dentist? |
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| 16:41.51 | Fisker | tacklehugs Lopeppeppy |
| 16:42.23 | Lopeppeppy | Lunch is the food of the gods. |
| 16:42.57 | Fisker | depends on when you eat it |
| 16:43.51 | Lopeppeppy | And when you last ate |
| 16:45.46 | mikma | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd5bjCZepV8 |
| 16:46.55 | fewyn | cover letters are the bane of my existence |
| 16:55.30 | Arrowmaster | yes |
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| 17:15.58 | karl_w_w | there's not much that irritates me more than people saying that you can't see more than 30 fps |
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| 17:22.38 | Arrowmaster | https://manjaro.github.io/expired_SSL_certificate/ |
| 17:22.41 | Arrowmaster | really......... |
| 17:29.28 | mikma | didn't google have the same problem |
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| 17:31.27 | Semlar | don't worry, google can just sign its own ssl certificates |
| 17:31.47 | mikma | they did, yes, but for whole 15mins (ooooh) they didn't. |
| 17:34.46 | Shirik | 15 minutes in google's world is like 1 million impressions |
| 17:35.08 | Shirik | wow I was way off |
| 17:35.12 | Shirik | 36 million |
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| 17:41.07 | Fisker | Why do people forget this shir |
| 17:41.10 | Fisker | Shit |
| 17:41.18 | Fisker | Hey Shirik |
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| 18:21.37 | g0urra | man I'm so glad that a witcher 3 expansion has been announced 1.5 months before release |
| 18:22.29 | zenzelezz | might be so people won't have a cause to cry "too little content!" at release |
| 18:23.20 | g0urra | that they for some reason couldn't put in the base game |
| 18:23.28 | g0urra | because MONEY |
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| 18:47.06 | Simca | game is already done being developed at 1.5 months before release, just bug fixing and QA stuff then |
| 19:06.51 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/WoWScrnShot_040915_220646.jpg |
| 19:07.05 | kullervo | if you jump between these two rocks, the area changes |
| 19:07.11 | kullervo | and pets get resummoned |
| 19:09.41 | fewyn | tokens are back above 23k eh? |
| 19:18.09 | kullervo | seems to be about 24k |
| 19:18.23 | kullervo | just waiting for them to become available in EU :| |
| 19:26.52 | karl_w_w | turns out im pretty fuckin good at talisman |
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| 19:39.54 | fewyn | they just hit 24k again |
| 19:40.05 | fewyn | i wonder if blizzard has a limit in how much they can increase at a time |
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| 20:03.28 | VIad | explains why so many DK can't play their class - withe limited amount of abilities out on the bar like in kullervo's screenshot |
| 20:03.30 | VIad | *shots fired* |
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| 20:11.23 | Semlar | my project requires a better description? |
| 20:11.31 | Semlar | how do i elaborate on "Displays a small movable string representing the current WoW Token price." |
| 20:11.59 | Semlar | fix it torhal! |
| 20:12.19 | Fisker | Just put in fillers |
| 20:12.29 | Semlar | that's all it does! |
| 20:12.39 | fewyn | add blackjack |
| 20:12.41 | fewyn | and hookers |
| 20:12.43 | Semlar | FINE |
| 20:12.53 | VIad | people say you can /reloadui to buypass the cooldown on the token buying/selling? |
| 20:13.16 | fewyn | my load screens are so long so that probably wouldn't help me |
| 20:13.24 | Semlar | are they 5 minutes long? |
| 20:13.34 | fewyn | i thought the cooldown was 30s? |
| 20:13.47 | Semlar | maybe |
| 20:13.48 | fewyn | if they are 5 minutes then i'm wrooooong |
| 20:14.04 | fewyn | reloads and first loads usually take a minute or so |
| 20:14.05 | Semlar | the api function i'm using is telling me the poll timeout is 300 seconds |
| 20:14.13 | Semlar | HOW DO YOU PLAY LIKE THAT |
| 20:14.17 | fewyn | i no longer have wow on an ssd :( |
| 20:14.21 | fewyn | and i can't afford to buy a new one |
| 20:14.22 | fewyn | atm |
| 20:14.28 | VIad | I keep my wow on a usb drive |
| 20:14.30 | VIad | USB1 drive |
| 20:14.43 | fewyn | what? |
| 20:14.44 | VIad | most of the time I disconnect befoire my loading can finish |
| 20:15.08 | Semlar | my reloads take like 5 seconds and that's too long sometimes |
| 20:15.18 | fewyn | auction data and stuff make for long load times |
| 20:15.34 | Semlar | get rid of it |
| 20:15.37 | VIad | when will blizz just enable you to load everything in the ram at boot up? |
| 20:15.51 | VIad | don't got 64 gb of ram for nothing |
| 20:16.02 | VIad | 3k hz |
| 20:16.02 | Semlar | that's pretty much what it does |
| 20:16.08 | fewyn | but how am i supposed to make phat gold Semlar? |
| 20:16.19 | VIad | if it did then I would never have loading screens when I change zones, tp to instances :( |
| 20:16.31 | fewyn | OS: 64 bit Windows 8.1 Professional (Version 6.3 Build 9600), CPU: 8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz @ 4000 MHz 1024 KB Cache, MEM: 16326 MB, 33% (5379 MB) free, DISKS: total 518 GB free, GFX: AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series 3072 MB, SCREEN: 1920 x 1080 @ 32 bit, AUDIO: UPTIME: 8 d, 4 h, 27 m |
| 20:17.03 | fewyn | i want more ram but it's so expensive now, wish i got it when it was cheap a couple years back |
| 20:17.12 | VIad | fewyn: wtb? https://www.komplett.no/k/config.aspx?ConfigSystemId=11004 |
| 20:18.42 | fewyn | i think my motherboard supports a max of 32gb |
| 20:18.44 | fewyn | sadly |
| 20:19.06 | fewyn | also 4tb ssds? |
| 20:19.11 | fewyn | when did they start making those |
| 20:19.31 | VIad | you got ssd on a pci stick |
| 20:19.58 | VIad | SSHD is basically a HD with some SSD parts |
| 20:20.01 | VIad | not pure SSD |
| 20:20.14 | VIad | of that 4tb probably 8gb or something ssd |
| 20:20.31 | Semlar | how do i LDB |
| 20:20.36 | fewyn | ah |
| 20:20.46 | fewyn | so it put the frequent stuff on ssd |
| 20:20.54 | fewyn | and moves less frequent stuff to the the platter drives |
| 20:21.03 | fewyn | makes sense |
| 20:21.09 | fewyn | also kinda useless |
| 20:21.16 | VIad | not that sure how SSHD shows you what is SSD and what is not |
| 20:21.43 | VIad | also can someone explain the NAND SSD and the other variety? |
| 20:22.04 | VIad | read something about NAND SSDs but wasnt aware there was ad ifferent way to make SSDs |
| 20:23.52 | VIad | does it matter if your SSD uses NAND or NOR? |
| 20:24.05 | VIad | trying to find the article because it just made me confused :P |
| 20:24.09 | fewyn | i don't know the difference but i think nand is better? |
| 20:24.20 | fewyn | i might be misremembering something though |
| 20:24.30 | VIad | was about buying some cheap SSD that actually used something else (NAND/NOR) than the expensive once but that performed better or some shit like that |
| 20:24.49 | VIad | Torhal or nevcairiel probably know |
| 20:24.55 | VIad | or someone more tech savy |
| 20:28.00 | karl_w_w | SSHDs are a waste of money |
| 20:28.29 | karl_w_w | tests show they are marginally better at a couple of tasks, and even or worse at others |
| 20:28.33 | fewyn | after reading about it |
| 20:28.35 | fewyn | i agree |
| 20:29.01 | VIad | what about SSD NAND/NOR debate? |
| 20:29.02 | karl_w_w | VIad, load your wow into a ramdisk? |
| 20:31.35 | karl_w_w | something, maybe a computer fan, is making a very high pitch sound |
| 20:31.54 | karl_w_w | I can only hear it if I angle my head just right |
| 20:32.52 | nevcairiel | Don't buy NOR flash, its terrible. Even cheap NAND SSDs outperform it by miles |
| 20:33.08 | VIad | exactly |
| 20:33.20 | VIad | like NOR came first or something? |
| 20:33.28 | VIad | NAND is the "new tech"? |
| 20:33.29 | nevcairiel | There aren't even many devices that use it |
| 20:33.42 | nevcairiel | Not from any notable companies anyway |
| 20:33.55 | nevcairiel | Nah it was mostly invented at the same time |
| 20:35.08 | karl_w_w | is it cheaper or are some people just crazy? |
| 20:35.29 | VIad | basically the HD DVD and bluray all over again |
| 20:35.37 | nevcairiel | Not really |
| 20:35.58 | nevcairiel | NOR is mostly used for small flash memory like the BIOS chips |
| 20:36.11 | nevcairiel | But its just inefficient on bigger sizds |
| 20:36.17 | nevcairiel | Sizes |
| 20:37.08 | VIad | I guess ATA-600 is the shit |
| 20:37.58 | nevcairiel | Nor has a few advantages for small things like a BIOS |
| 20:38.25 | nevcairiel | But those advantages just melt away when you want a generic multi gigabyte storage |
| 20:53.27 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/WoWScrnShot_040915_235304.jpg |
| 20:53.30 | kullervo | fuck, I bugged this encounter :D |
| 20:54.19 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/WoWScrnShot_040915_235416.jpg |
| 20:57.25 | karl_w_w | reported |
| 20:57.41 | kullervo | yeah I already did |
| 20:58.34 | karl_w_w | expect a visit from the wow police and/or the red dragonflight shortly |
| 20:58.58 | kullervo | p2 never started |
| 20:59.13 | kullervo | maly isn't even casting the normal abilities |
| 20:59.57 | kullervo | I spectral guised it and the boss despawned |
| 21:00.43 | Stanzilla | so what do you guys think about http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F547P6S/ |
| 21:01.00 | kullervo | I can repeat this feat reliably |
| 21:02.20 | karl_w_w | they're very useful Stanzilla |
| 21:02.50 | karl_w_w | for you, people with some kind of physical deficiency which impairs fine motor skills |
| 21:03.00 | karl_w_w | s/you/you know/ |
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| 21:16.43 | Semlar | does anyone know if the GetGameTime() function still gets changed when you zone into another server |
| 21:24.17 | Mr_Rabies | how long does the queue hold if you swap characters? :O |
| 21:25.49 | Semlar | 5 minutes? |
| 21:25.52 | Semlar | i'm not sure |
| 21:26.29 | Semlar | might even depend on how many people are in the queue |
| 21:35.10 | VIad | http://imgur.com/gallery/gvEtg26 |
| 21:40.26 | karl_w_w | http://www.cracked.com/article_19450_6-laws-youve-broken-without-even-realizing-it_p4.html every day i see more reason to never go to America |
| 21:44.25 | tz | and a lot of other places too, if the TPP is ratified |
| 21:51.21 | Semlar | hmm, is there any way to store a reliable timestamp between sessions |
| 21:51.51 | Semlar | one that won't break if the player's computer clock changes or logs onto a character on a different server |
| 21:53.53 | Thunder_Child | Does cal data go from server to server? |
| 21:53.57 | mikma | so if i wanna add a message into linux user's login without /etc/motd, what's the file i should use? |
| 21:54.08 | mikma | do i just do it in ~/.bashrc ? :P |
| 21:54.35 | kd3 | via ssh or local logins? |
| 21:55.00 | mikma | ssh login, same account shared with two person (insurgency server runs on this account) |
| 21:55.06 | kd3 | http://wiki.spry.com/Adding_a_banner_to_ssh_logins |
| 21:55.09 | Thunder_Child | /etc/profile perhaps.+ |
| 21:55.15 | mikma | just wanna add some notes and messages about what have i changed |
| 21:55.19 | mikma | thunder_child: no root priviledges |
| 21:55.31 | kd3 | then my link won't work either |
| 21:55.32 | Semlar | Thunder_Child: you mean like calendar events? |
| 21:55.34 | mikma | yeah |
| 21:55.41 | kd3 | I don't think you can do that without root |
| 21:55.48 | mikma | so i'm guessing .bashrc with lots of echo's |
| 21:55.49 | Thunder_Child | Then yea, user rc file |
| 21:55.55 | kd3 | yah |
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| 21:56.14 | mikma | oh i can just do ~/.motd and use cat .motd in the .bashrc.. doh |
| 21:56.31 | tz | add to /etc/profile: [[ -f "/etc/motd.d/$USER" ]] && cat "/etc/motd.d/${USER}" |
| 21:56.42 | mikma | no root available |
| 21:56.52 | tz | well then, bashrc or equivalent |
| 21:58.21 | mikma | fook i should really switch the editor i use into something that's in every linux |
| 21:58.45 | mikma | joe's ctrl+k deletes a line in nano |
| 21:59.44 | Thunder_Child | vim |
| 21:59.59 | mikma | atleast paste works perfect in vim |
| 22:00.07 | tz | if you're spending an appreciable amount of time on *nix you'd probably be best off actually learning vim/emacs |
| 22:00.13 | mikma | usually it assplodes like diarrhea in joe |
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| 23:00.19 | Amarande | huh. I seem to have managed to find a spot with no general chat again. :) |
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| 23:11.44 | znf | WTF |
| 23:11.52 | znf | Now I have to pay VAT as an EXTRA on Envanto? |
| 23:11.53 | znf | sonofabitch |
| 23:12.09 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/xKvariU.png |
| 23:12.31 | blkzer0 | i have dox |
| 23:13.01 | Thunder_Child | I thought custom was to have VAT included on all prices. |
| 23:13.19 | phelps | just lie and say you're in the US |
| 23:13.24 | phelps | no VAT here! |
| 23:13.43 | phelps | im sure they won't notice the currency difference |
| 23:19.49 | Amarande | yeah isn't like the DEFINITION of VAT that it's supposed to be included in the price? heh |
| 23:19.56 | Amarande | phelps: I *wish* we had VAT here |
| 23:20.13 | znf | not when it's fuckin' 24% |
| 23:20.14 | Amarande | not to the kind of percentages they've got in Europe, but as in have the damn sales tax included as part of the price instead of being something you have to add on later |
| 23:20.54 | phelps | but how can they do 3 levels of tax then ? |
| 23:21.13 | Amarande | I'm not sure I can even begin to count the amount of time that would save in retail establishments, where currently stuff ends up having to be voided off (often with a supervisor's approval required, to boot) because at the end it turns out the customer cannot cover the sales tax |
| 23:21.22 | Amarande | phelps, they manage it just fine with gas, alcohol, and tobacco :P |
| 23:21.57 | phelps | do those have city tax ? |
| 23:22.09 | phelps | i guess it depends on the city |
| 23:22.39 | Amarande | also it's easier technologically to bake the taxes into the prices, then they can bake as many taxes as they bloody well want to leech from us since it's all done at logistical accounting level |
| 23:22.53 | phelps | the city tax here is 9.89% |
| 23:22.56 | Amarande | whereas any add-ons at the time of purchase have to be limited to what POS system programming can handle |
| 23:23.41 | phelps | 9.89% at the register, + 20ish % on the paycheck (for my income range anyways) |
| 23:24.05 | phelps | pretty steep |
| 23:24.06 | znf | we have a unique 16% income tax |
| 23:24.11 | znf | and 24% vat |
| 23:24.15 | Amarande | here it's 6.35% state sales tax, no city tax, not entirely sure what my marginal tax paid is, even though I should know since I just did my income tax a couple weeks ago heh |
| 23:24.21 | phelps | dafuq znf |
| 23:24.33 | phelps | thats pretty high tax |
| 23:24.35 | znf | Yes. |
| 23:25.38 | Amarande | over the border in New York it varies, the "basic rate" is a 7% that consists of 4% state and 3% county, but usually it's a good bit higher, down in the city it's 8.875% |
| 23:25.46 | Amarande | which is considered a pretty brutal sales tax in the US :P |
| 23:26.05 | phelps | ohf, my tax was 27% this year |
| 23:26.18 | Amarande | hah, reading the Wikipedia article on US sales taxes: "West Virginia has the distinction of being the first US state to enact a sales tax." |
| 23:26.41 | znf | the "problem" here is that we don't have different rates for food :-/ |
| 23:26.42 | Amarande | Ah, District 12 ... apparently a crappy place to live ever since the get go, LOL |
| 23:27.03 | znf | ie: food is still 24% VAT, except bread. (yes, just bread...) |
| 23:27.05 | phelps | "chink" sorry, stores here don't charge tax, for whatever reason, something to do with the work visa they have |
| 23:27.20 | znf | then everything else is 24$, except hotels (lodging) which is 9% |
| 23:27.41 | Amarande | heh, here in the States hotel taxes are usually considerably higher than the regular sales tax rate |
| 23:27.45 | Amarande | often as much as double |
| 23:28.13 | Amarande | as for food, it depends on the state, as so many things in the States do |
| 23:28.49 | Amarande | here in CT, there is no sales tax on food in general, but certain categories such as soda, candy, alcoholic beverages, and prepared foods get the regular sales tax rate |
| 23:29.02 | phelps | I've never paid much attention to tax at a hotel, ends up being about 70/night for a cheap one tho |
| 23:30.09 | Amarande | phelps: hotels might get even worse if Marriott gets their way, too :| |
| 23:30.19 | Amarande | Marriott wants to have hotel housekeeping classed as Tipped Employees |
| 23:30.58 | Amarande | so next thing travelers either find another 18% to leave for the maid or become that oh so common classification we see in humanity these days, H. Sapiens Douchebaggus |
| 23:31.04 | phelps | i don't see how that'll go |
| 23:31.14 | phelps | I've never tipped a hotel room |
| 23:32.33 | Amarande | yeah, I wonder how many would be willing to go along with that even if maids did get cut to 2.13 an hour plus tips, or if people would just start becoming jerks |
| 23:32.43 | Amarande | wouldn't be the first reason people decided to become jerks en masse, I'm sure :P |
| 23:33.29 | Amarande | especially since you can tell someone, if you can't afford to tip the waiter, you can't afford to go out to eat |
| 23:33.57 | Amarande | but you've got alternatives there, like McD's |
| 23:34.14 | Amarande | you can't really tell someone who has to travel, if you can't afford to tip the maid, you gotta sleep in the alley :P |
| 23:34.16 | phelps | i usually tip waiters pretty well, esp if I've had a drink |
| 23:34.38 | Amarande | yeah, I tip pretty good in restaurants, except the occasional time when I use my debit card and the bank fails to post the tip afterwards :| |
| 23:35.33 | Amarande | however, that I'm going to blame on the bank |
| 23:35.49 | znf | Hmmm. Cool. |
| 23:35.53 | znf | After I disabled the OC on the RPi |
| 23:35.59 | znf | No more random reboots/hangups |
| 23:36.19 | phelps | i have my rpi2 overclocked pretty high |
| 23:36.47 | znf | do you have it on wifi? |
| 23:36.55 | phelps | wired |
| 23:36.58 | znf | ^^ |
| 23:37.03 | znf | I actually managed to corrupt the fs |
| 23:37.07 | Amarande | I've still yet to try the whole RPi thing |
| 23:37.35 | znf | had to stick it in another box, run a vm, to be able to fsck the sdcard |
| 23:37.37 | phelps | 1200 / 500 / 500 force turbo |
| 23:37.47 | znf | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:37.48 | phelps | runs openelec pretty well at that |
| 23:38.24 | phelps | oh man, this thing has got to be pushing 2 months uptime at this point |
| 23:38.27 | phelps | mostly idle |
| 23:38.40 | Amarande | I'm trying to imagine overclocking a RPi, it just screams does not compute to me |
| 23:38.46 | phelps | it does have heatsinks on all the major chips |
| 23:38.49 | Amarande | let's see. tiny device. no active fan cooling. OVERCLOCKING?! |
| 23:39.10 | phelps | it has a fan but doesn't really make any difference |
| 23:39.15 | phelps | its soooo tiny, lol |
| 23:39.36 | Amarande | to me, OCing equates with giant engine block sized cooler :) |
| 23:39.41 | phelps | http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/321712203819?lpid=82&chn=ps |
| 23:39.49 | znf | the rpi handles OC like a champ, usually |
| 23:39.56 | Amarande | like ... http://www.kitguru.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/431.jpg heh |
| 23:39.57 | znf | except when you do wifi, it seems |
| 23:40.01 | znf | I mean, from my experience |
| 23:40.08 | znf | but it's an RPi2, so I don't really need the OC anyway |
| 23:40.08 | Amarande | (that's what's in my PC, which isn't even OC'd ... I lost the Haswell thermal lottery pretty bad though *sigh*) |
| 23:41.13 | phelps | the rpi2 is such a huge upgrade from the b+ |
| 23:41.16 | kullervo | tested, can't solo ordos.. Got him to 90% but the +dmg debuff ruined my day |
| 23:41.23 | phelps | that new ARM is pretty kickass |
| 23:41.32 | znf | yup |
| 23:41.34 | znf | and quad-core yay |
| 23:41.40 | znf | the biggest upgrade is the memory, though |
| 23:41.42 | znf | especially for openelec |
| 23:41.54 | phelps | it runs openelec just as well as my i7 |
| 23:41.57 | phelps | no joke |
| 23:42.00 | znf | Not really :D |
| 23:42.09 | phelps | its so slow all the time |
| 23:42.13 | znf | If you try KMediaTorrent / XBMCTorrent it's slow as hell |
| 23:42.15 | phelps | doesn't really change |
| 23:42.34 | znf | downloading a subtitle, for example - slow as hell |
| 23:42.39 | phelps | i only use it for local content, wired connection |
| 23:42.53 | znf | but on the RPi2 is actually manageable |
| 23:43.02 | znf | takes about ~30s for the RPi to do it |
| 23:43.27 | znf | DAMN IT WINDOWS |
| 23:43.43 | znf | At this point I'm wondering if it's Chrome's fault when my sound driver decides to explode |
| 23:45.14 | phelps | I've never tried a torrent client on either of my rpis |
| 23:46.32 | znf | it works, but like I said, the UI is slow |
| 23:46.34 | znf | playback is just fine |
| 23:47.38 | phelps | the only time the UI in openelec drops below 60 fps for me is when I'm loading a huge list of content |
| 23:47.46 | phelps | and once its loaded it once its fine |
| 23:48.11 | phelps | wonce |
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