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| 00:06.19 | Simca | hahaha, yeah, Gnarfoz, I used a speed measuring tool for that part of the drive |
| 00:06.33 | Simca | average transfer rate: 20 KB/sec |
| 00:06.44 | Simca | estimated time remaining: 425 hours |
| 00:06.45 | znf | faster than dial-up |
| 00:07.00 | Gnarfoz | it's all a blur |
| 00:07.00 | znf | what are you doing, btw? |
| 00:07.03 | znf | recovering data? |
| 00:07.04 | znf | or? |
| 00:07.06 | Gnarfoz | gotta go fast! |
| 00:07.06 | Simca | yeah |
| 00:07.10 | znf | from NTFS? |
| 00:07.14 | Simca | yep |
| 00:07.34 | znf | if you run into trouble, I recommend Zero Assumption Recovery |
| 00:07.47 | znf | recovered a hell lot of stuff with it |
| 00:08.33 | Gnarfoz | have you looked at Windows' event viewer, under System? |
| 00:08.44 | Gnarfoz | probably a ton of events with source "disk" ^^ |
| 00:09.57 | znf | Crap. I have to reboot. |
| 00:10.32 | znf | Wonder if a simple relog fixes this |
| 00:15.00 | znf | token price is dropping! |
| 00:15.04 | znf | 30903 |
| 00:15.11 | Semlar | i would expect it to drop |
| 00:15.16 | tz | quick, do nothing! |
| 00:15.38 | znf | does everything |
| 00:15.48 | tz | clean up after yourself then |
| 00:16.07 | znf | I'm interested in how it evolves :D |
| 00:16.36 | tz | jsut get a whole stack of treasure hunter followers and it won't matter what the price is |
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| 00:17.35 | znf | I could |
| 00:17.36 | znf | but me lazy |
| 00:19.22 | znf | no, relogging didn't fix my audio device issue |
| 00:20.21 | tz | did you do a windows update over the last couple of days and the sound card stopped working? |
| 00:20.38 | tz | that happened to me, ended up needing to reinstall the motherboard-supplied drivers to get it back |
| 00:21.10 | znf | no, I have this weird re-ocurring issue where a sound device is "busy" |
| 00:21.23 | znf | even though I don't allow apps to use devices exclusively |
| 00:21.36 | znf | So I get http://i.imgur.com/h7e7fs8.png |
| 00:21.49 | tz | weird |
| 00:22.20 | znf | I know |
| 00:23.53 | znf | It's been happening since I had another mobo (and another soundcard, on board) on Windows 7 |
| 00:24.10 | znf | then I upgraded to Windows 8, then Windows 8.1, same shit happened. |
| 00:24.16 | znf | I changed mobo+cpu, same shit |
| 00:36.42 | jaxdahl | foxlit, tongue in cheek feature request: http://i.imgur.com/71gi1By.png |
| 00:38.09 | jaxdahl | oh you probably already saw it |
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| 01:05.47 | foxlit | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/status |
| 01:05.58 | foxlit | "On Wednesday, 08th April, all realms will be restarted between 05:00 and 06:00 (CEST). " |
| 01:06.19 | kd3 | london just fell over |
| 01:06.47 | kullervo | oddly enough the realms are ALREADY DOOOOOWN |
| 01:06.55 | kd3 | mt |
| 01:08.48 | foxlit | then again, eu service status communication has never been anything other than pathetic. |
| 01:13.14 | [TOM_RUS] | I think they are like "lets just shutdown all realms at random time. who gives a fuck about players anyway" |
| 01:13.29 | [TOM_RUS] | pretty much explains what blizzard is |
| 01:14.04 | [TOM_RUS] | realms were broken past few days anyway... |
| 01:15.14 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 01:15.42 | [TOM_RUS] | "make money, not warcraft!" |
| 01:16.50 | kd3 | huh, down to 29,685 |
| 01:16.51 | kd3 | wow |
| 01:17.10 | kd3 | so guess it's not limited to a 1% move |
| 01:17.18 | [TOM_RUS] | 29388 you mean? |
| 01:17.37 | kd3 | it went lower? wow |
| 01:18.33 | Semlar | to be honest i'd expect it to drop to 20-25k |
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| 01:32.58 | kd3 | down to 29,094 now |
| 01:33.51 | Stanzilla | well http://i.imgur.com/xEeT7vq.png |
| 01:33.53 | Stanzilla | good job |
| 01:35.31 | pompy | Stanzilla: live or ptr? |
| 01:35.35 | Stanzilla | live |
| 01:35.36 | pompy | gg blizz gg |
| 01:36.43 | [TOM_RUS] | Stanzilla, "works as intended" |
| 01:36.54 | Stanzilla | sure :D |
| 01:38.02 | pompy | did you see if it was a caching issue? |
| 01:42.53 | Stanzilla | it probably got lost in some folders during the cascaclysm |
| 01:49.17 | Stanzilla | wow d3 also has a new tutorial quest you cant ESC out of |
| 01:49.19 | Stanzilla | GREAT |
| 01:57.14 | pompy | Stanzilla: cascaclysm? icwutudidthurr |
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| 02:13.20 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha http://www.adweek.com/adfreak/laphroaig-scotch-doesnt-mind-if-you-think-it-tastes-burning-hospital-158069 |
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| 02:18.36 | pompy | ~calm Torhal |
| 02:18.39 | purl | ACTION sooths Torhal, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm Torhal down. |
| 02:19.49 | Torhal | gives pompy a backrub face-down in a jacuzzi. |
| 02:19.51 | Torhal | feels calm, now. |
| 02:19.57 | Torhal | Sorry, pompy. Had to be done. |
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| 02:20.15 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=89&v=e4QNBypC9vs |
| 02:27.32 | Stanzilla | Torhal: what does a burning hospital taste like |
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| 02:28.51 | Shirik | awkward moment for esports |
| 02:29.15 | Shirik | final week of the regular season is coming up for LoL chinese LCS, and in one particular match, both teams want to lose |
| 02:31.07 | Torhal | Stanzilla: You know, I'm pretty sure you'd have to ask the person who originally said it. |
| 02:36.16 | Stanzilla | Shirik: why do they want to lose |
| 02:36.59 | Shirik | so everyone believes the team that is currently ranked #4 is the best, and these two teams are placed #5 and #6 (whoever wins will take #5). That means whoever wins this match will go up against the perceived-strongest team first round in the playoffs |
| 02:38.31 | Stanzilla | @WoWTokens: NA Region #WoWToken: 27,948g, sells in less than 30 minutes. |
| 02:38.34 | Stanzilla | weeee, free fall |
| 02:46.50 | kd3 | lets out a whistle |
| 02:50.31 | Iriel | Im not sure there are too many conclusions to be made about the WoW token on launch day, thereâs going to be a mix of people who just want to do it to try it, and pent up demand of those who wanted to buy gold for a long time but were afraid to do it. |
| 02:52.01 | nebula169 | was rising during the day, then people got home from work and it's been going down ever since |
| 03:03.58 | Shirik | it's like an IPO |
| 03:04.21 | Shirik | I mess with stocks on a very regular basis and I avoid IPOs like the plague because they are the most useless and unpredictable venture you can go for |
| 03:04.43 | Shirik | (alternatively: if you get lucky, it can make you very rich) |
| 03:08.27 | Iriel | Hopefully itâll be slightly less crazy than the stock market, since they devalue instantly and can only be sold once |
| 03:09.14 | tz | all I know is my garrison now pays my monthly subscription fees |
| 03:09.44 | Iriel | Arguably its the time you spend in your garrison, not the garrison itself |
| 03:10.13 | tz | shrugs |
| 03:10.16 | tz | minimal effort |
| 03:12.18 | Iriel | The tradeoff of time-spent-in-game for subscription-to-spend-more-time-in-game seems a bit bizarre at face value, but if the economics work for Blizzard itâs an entirely reasonable thing. |
| 03:12.43 | Iriel | Iâm less sure how I feel about the dollars to gold path, but it doesnât offend me as long as it doesnât cause rampant inflation on the things I might care about |
| 03:14.07 | tz | and that's what it'll boil down to for the most part - if it doesn't affect people's gameplay in any detrimental way then people will be fine with it |
| 03:14.10 | Xuerian | It surprises me how so many people are just now considering the concept, when it's been used to great effect in a game with an even more serious player economy for years. I'm not being derogatory either, I'm legitimately surprised |
| 03:20.04 | Iriel | Xuerian: which specific game do you mean there, hopefully not eve because thatâs (in my opinion) such a different model from WoW thereâs no useful comparison |
| 03:21.26 | Xuerian | Iriel: I did indeed mean EVE, and there is a very valid and useful comparison in that PLEX has much less of a net negative impact on players than the illicit isk market, while at the same time netting CCP the money instead. |
| 03:22.11 | Xuerian | That said, there are still more equivalent comparisons all over the market in recent years: GW2, Wildstar, Rift, Tera (Though I'm not sure how much remained intact for the latter two after the F2P conversions) |
| 03:24.10 | Torhal | Iriel: For the first time since TBC, I actually thought I'd want to play WoW again, with WoD. It only took 3 months for me to discover that, instead of playing this immersive and engaging game that re-kindled my interest when the expansion launched, I'd been hoodwinked into playing the equivalent of a Facebook game; I logged in every morning to make sure I got my daily share of whatever the hell the repetitively-scripted Garrison-spawning |
| 03:24.10 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.38 | Xuerian | Yeeeep |
| 03:25.01 | Iriel | You need more alts 8-) |
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| 03:25.20 | Torhal | Newp. I need the game to keep me engaged. |
| 03:25.32 | Torhal | Not "OMFG, did I do X today?" |
| 03:26.03 | Torhal | I want adventure. Not chores. |
| 03:26.31 | Torhal | So, I went back to typing /reload and testing my latest changes... |
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| 03:26.41 | Torhal | Same shit, but on MY trems. :D |
| 03:26.46 | Torhal | terms* |
| 03:26.56 | bluspacecow | *waves at Torhal* |
| 03:26.58 | Xuerian | You don't even have to pay to do that on and old account any more, that's pretty nice |
| 03:27.01 | Iriel | Iâve been doing content I didnât properly explore (because it was added âbehind meâ) with alts |
| 03:27.30 | Torhal | stabs bluspacecow with family-friendly Tupperware. |
| 03:27.41 | bluspacecow | awww you do love me |
| 03:27.58 | Torhal | Look, man: I'm just trying to feed a family. |
| 03:28.06 | bluspacecow | kk |
| 03:28.09 | Torhal | :D |
| 03:35.25 | znf | well, crap |
| 03:35.26 | znf | I can't sleep |
| 03:35.35 | znf | and I have to be "up" in 3 hours |
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| 04:27.28 | Shirik | After millennia of heated debate, mercifully, at long last, we have an answer. Most developers prefer tabs to spaces. |
| 04:27.29 | Shirik | Upon closer examination of the data, a trend emerges: Developers increasingly prefer spaces as they gain experience. Stack Overflow reputation correlates with a preference for spaces, too: users who have 10,000 rep or more prefer spaces to tabs at a ratio of 3 to 1. |
| 04:28.03 | Shirik | in other words: stupid developers prefer tabs. :D BE ONE WITH YOUR SPACE BAR |
| 04:29.12 | Iriel | Shirik: Amen |
| 04:29.44 | Iriel | Itâs my standard (and I was pleased to see it was also googleâs standard) |
| 04:32.39 | breser | The only advantage tabs has is less typing without an editor that expands tabs for you. |
| 04:33.05 | breser | Experienced programmers spend the time to configure their editor. |
| 04:33.58 | Kodiack | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:34.14 | Kodiack | :D |
| 04:34.54 | Trela | FUCK YOUR SPACES. |
| 04:35.08 | Iriel | Eclipse defaulting to tabs annoys the hell out of me when we get new developers who dont pay attention |
| 04:35.10 | Trela | grumps. |
| 04:35.46 | Iriel | I rebind tab to âIndent current lineâ 8-) |
| 04:36.35 | Simca | <Shirik> in other words: stupid developers prefer tabs. :D BE ONE WITH YOUR SPACE BAR |
| 04:36.51 | Simca | why on earth would you ever use the space bar for tabbing, lol |
| 04:36.58 | kd3 | ^ |
| 04:37.00 | Simca | you would just set the editor to make tabs do spaces |
| 04:38.01 | Iriel | Thatâs a fair point, i dont know anyone who actually spaces stuff with the space bar on a regular basis. |
| 04:38.19 | Iriel | Unless say, typing code in a non-IDE setting, like an email |
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| 04:48.09 | Shirik | ok fair enough |
| 04:48.20 | Shirik | the tab key is actually still my friend |
| 04:54.31 | kd3 | cripes, it's just falling off a cliff. 25,532g |
| 04:54.59 | Semlar | told yoouuu |
| 04:55.17 | kullervo | it'll start going up after people stop buying tokens from the store |
| 04:55.53 | kd3 | anyway, meh. I've added like 6 months of game time and I've still got plenty of gold. that's enough for me for now |
| 04:55.54 | Semlar | i think it's going to stop somewhere between 20 and 25k |
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| 05:42.01 | Semlar | does the default lua error frame really need to be something that intercepts your key strokes and can't be dragged off the screen |
| 05:42.47 | Semlar | or closed, if it's being spammed with the same error |
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| 07:33.52 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: i need a source of cheap laphroaig, or hell i just wish the bars i went to had a good scotch selection |
| 07:34.08 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: i had to make due with a black label old fashion tonight |
| 07:56.07 | znf | Heh. http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/04/bitcoin-foundation-is-effectively-bankrupt-board-member-says/ |
| 07:56.22 | znf | woah @ the price of the wow token |
| 07:56.49 | nevcairiel | that was to be expected, once everyone got online during peak hours, people put them up for sale |
| 07:57.05 | nevcairiel | it will now go slowly back up as people start buying them and it stabilizes |
| 07:57.08 | znf | 50/50 :P |
| 07:59.34 | nevcairiel | it might not be done going down, depends on a few things, but in the grand scheme of things, it'll go down quite a bit as the market is flooded with offers, and t hen go back up a little bit and stabilize there |
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| 08:25.25 | Mr_Rabies | man, ashran is such a mess |
| 08:25.32 | Mr_Rabies | i'm never gonna get the auction house for my garrison :( |
| 08:59.28 | nevcairiel | just farm npcs, its usually not hard to do that |
| 09:03.45 | Mr_Rabies | wish there was some way to see the real drop chances on those pieces :( |
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| 09:05.12 | Mr_Rabies | it's totally disheartening to see numbers like 0.02% |
| 09:06.08 | tz | yeah but that's including people without trading posts in their garrison |
| 09:06.42 | nevcairiel | a lot of the mobs only started dropping it with 6.1 too, so numbers may be wrong from that as well |
| 09:07.42 | tz | I should probably farm for mine at some point too |
| 09:07.46 | tz | can't be arsed |
| 09:09.15 | Mr_Rabies | i wish i could farm for pieces without having the trading post |
| 09:09.24 | Mr_Rabies | because that's really the only reason i have the trading post |
| 09:09.31 | Mr_Rabies | that and i can't really think of anything better for that slot |
| 09:09.40 | karl_w_w | so you can either spend all your time grinding parts to get the AH in your garrison, or you can buy the parts with gold, all so you can get a tiny bit of convenience |
| 09:09.53 | Mr_Rabies | yeah but the ashran parts are totally insane |
| 09:09.55 | karl_w_w | or you can just sell the parts you happen to get and make money for nothing |
| 09:09.57 | Mr_Rabies | like 300k on my realm :v |
| 09:12.05 | karl_w_w | and i have 898 elemental runes |
| 09:12.13 | karl_w_w | what a cockblock |
| 09:15.27 | plaw | hmmm |
| 09:15.31 | plaw | ~emulate plaw |
| 09:15.35 | plaw | ~emulate bleeter |
| 09:15.35 | purl | ACTION rant RANT rant waaa MOAR COFFEE <sub>GOOD IDEA</sub>rant waa MOAR COFFEE rant rant MOAR MOAR <blink><h1>terribad idea</h1></blink> rant |
| 09:15.40 | plaw | hmmm |
| 09:16.49 | Mr_Rabies | karl_w_w |
| 09:16.54 | Mr_Rabies | got any extra rush orders? |
| 09:17.08 | nevcairiel | just buy some with GRs |
| 09:17.20 | Mr_Rabies | oh yeah i forgot that was a thing you could do |
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| 09:19.39 | karl_w_w | you can what? |
| 09:20.10 | nevcairiel | you can buy rush orders, and your buildings can produce elemental runes |
| 09:20.33 | karl_w_w | how can you buy them? |
| 09:20.41 | karl_w_w | i have some coming from missions anyway |
| 09:20.44 | nevcairiel | for alliance is the guy next to your GR stash |
| 09:40.02 | Maldivia | Stanzilla: thanks :) |
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| 09:49.39 | foxlit | p3lim: that sounds odd, but since it's just a script, you should be able to get it to tell you more about why it does or doesn't do something |
| 09:50.28 | foxlit | check what handle:readFile("interface/framexml/globalstrings.lua") returns |
| 10:03.45 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/ZyP0Q7y |
| 10:04.28 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/3Di9XwY |
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| 10:08.23 | karl_w_w | that first one is not even slightly surprising |
| 10:21.48 | bluspacecow | BBL |
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| 11:53.09 | znf | Who runs on chrome dev here? |
| 11:54.46 | karl_w_w | you do |
| 11:56.23 | znf | :-( |
| 11:56.28 | znf | I need help reproducing a bug |
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| 12:33.39 | rid_ | I do |
| 12:33.41 | rid_ | (at home) |
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| 12:48.23 | foxlit | 870 runes after raids :( |
| 12:51.03 | Fisker | :( foxlit |
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| 13:05.25 | rid_ | :( Fisker |
| 13:09.40 | karl_w_w | 899 runes |
| 13:11.22 | karl_w_w | you'll still probably make it this week foxlit, with the mission and work orders |
| 13:12.56 | foxlit | 12 from work orders is a little optimistic |
| 13:13.59 | foxlit | (if only one more of those drops was 21 instead of 9...) |
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| 13:34.41 | fewyn | 23k for a wow token |
| 13:34.43 | fewyn | not bad |
| 13:37.19 | kullervo | if only they'd release it in the eu area |
| 13:37.54 | karl_w_w | I get a couple every day |
| 13:38.10 | karl_w_w | and you should get a few rush orders as well |
| 13:38.15 | karl_w_w | ^@foxlit |
| 13:39.39 | foxlit | generally unimpressed with rish order output |
| 13:39.46 | foxlit | 0 for 5 atm. |
| 13:44.05 | nevcairiel | its just like normal orders =p |
| 13:44.10 | nevcairiel | just, faster! |
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| 13:58.27 | Simca | http://www.seattlepi.com/news/crime/article/Attorney-SC-officer-who-shot-suspect-felt-6183333.php i wonder if this is going to be the next shitstorm |
| 14:05.37 | kullervo | karl_w_w: I've actually started saving the rush orders on my main |
| 14:06.16 | kullervo | I'll pop them all at once when the next tier requires another hojillion items |
| 14:06.54 | kullervo | got enough for a couple hundred now, I think |
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| 14:38.08 | Fisker | :( rid_ |
| 14:39.25 | rid_ | :( |
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| 15:27.49 | g0urra | is there anyone who's still not in the heroes beta? |
| 15:28.15 | fewyn | i've got like 8 beta keys and no one wants mine |
| 15:28.32 | fewyn | the new ones i got last night even come with valla i think |
| 15:28.33 | nevcairiel | i got 6, already handed out 3 to wow guildmates |
| 15:28.42 | nevcairiel | fewyn: nah they only gave you valla |
| 15:28.54 | fewyn | i already had valla |
| 15:28.54 | fewyn | i think |
| 15:29.24 | fewyn | oh cool you get an email when you use a wow token |
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| 15:31.36 | Jamash | foxlit: My sister asked me to "bug that fox guy" to add the new top-end raid missions to the Missions of Interest tab. |
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| 15:33.22 | Iriel | I have a couple of friends who arenât in the HoTS beta who would be interested |
| 15:33.25 | Thunder_Child | Jamash: Make her bug him herself. |
| 15:33.32 | Iriel | If anyone does have spare keys |
| 15:33.43 | Jamash | Thunder_Child: More work. I already have irssi set up. |
| 15:34.22 | Thunder_Child | Jamash: Self sufficiency. |
| 15:34.27 | Thunder_Child | Also, web irc. |
| 15:34.51 | Jamash | Iriel: I don't but I also have friends who want them. |
| 15:35.13 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 15:35.15 | Jamash | My university just mailed me a webcam so they can spy on me while I take tests. |
| 15:35.34 | Lopeppeppy | I have been professional, Fisker! Make a note of it! |
| 15:35.41 | Fisker | woo |
| 15:36.11 | Jamash | Lopeppeppy: grats |
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| 15:39.14 | Jamash | Man, Java sucks. It sucks slightly less than when I took it in 1999, but not by much. |
| 15:39.39 | kullervo | blessing of the forge & anvil seems to create sparks near the player's feet? |
| 15:41.01 | VIad | http://imgur.com/gallery/GxMLDqy |
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| 15:59.36 | Fisker | I miss when Lopeppeppy wasn't a professional and still had her feet on the ground |
| 15:59.40 | Fisker | :3 |
| 16:00.15 | Iriel | Jamash: I think youâre being hyperbolic, unless youâre trying to use it for something inappropriate |
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| 16:02.39 | g0urra | Fisker: are you being a Lopeppeppy hipster |
| 16:03.03 | Jamash | Iriel: I mean the syntax and semantics are awkward and force way, way too verbose constructs to get stuff done. |
| 16:03.53 | Jamash | Lack of true generics is the main problem, but I feel like I'm manipulating my data with oven mitts on compared to, say, Perl or Python. |
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| 16:08.17 | Iriel | Jamash: I think it depends what youâre trying to do, I use perl when I need perl stuff 8-) |
| 16:08.31 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sooo stuck on myself now. Worse than Justin Beebeeeer. |
| 16:08.34 | Thunder_Child | Jamash: I don't know how closely JS follows Java, but I agree. |
| 16:09.06 | Jamash | I'm taking a Java class (heh). Part of the problem is that the assignment was clearly written for a C class twenty years ago and lightly modified for Java. |
| 16:09.09 | Iriel | I find JS wierd and awkward in a âthis doensât entirely feel finishedâ way 8-) |
| 16:09.10 | kd3 | js and java aren't related past the four letters |
| 16:09.26 | Iriel | though itâs fun in the context of things like node and angular |
| 16:09.45 | Jamash | Yeah, Java is aggressively statically typed, JavaScript is like what are these type things of which you speak. |
| 16:10.06 | Thunder_Child | I wrote something in angualr, it was meh. |
| 16:10.12 | Thunder_Child | angular* |
| 16:10.24 | Jamash | JavaScript is a lot more like Lua, or possibly vice-versa. |
| 16:17.45 | znf | mumbles something bad about whoever decided to alias "cp" to "cp -i" on centos |
| 16:22.56 | pompy | kd3: http://www.amazon.com/b/?node=10481056011 "Now delivering to even more Atlanta neighborhoods" |
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| 16:25.17 | Arrowmaster | pompy: from his shitty internet you should realize kd3 cant possible be in atlanta, must be an outer area |
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| 16:27.56 | pompy | lol true |
| 16:31.37 | Thunder_Child | It's ok znf, you get used to it. |
| 16:31.40 | kd3 | yup, none of the zipcodes I've ever lived in outside of atlanta are there |
| 16:31.47 | znf | Thunder_Child, yes |
| 16:31.50 | znf | Thunder_Child, cp * ../ |
| 16:31.52 | znf | Thunder_Child, unalias cp |
| 16:31.55 | znf | Thunder_Child, cp * ../ |
| 16:32.29 | pompy | ~lart znf |
| 16:32.29 | purl | rm -rf's znf |
| 16:32.39 | pompy | done |
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| 16:36.00 | Thunder_Child | znf: I think it will just come back. |
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| 17:03.33 | zenzelezz | woot, actually caught an episode of Air Crash Investigation that I somehow hadn't seen before \o/ |
| 17:12.39 | Arrowmaster | trying to create a custom radio station on gooole music, made a playlist of some 600 songs and first try as a radio it gave me a song ive never heard by a band ive never heard of and its good |
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| 17:21.29 | nevcairiel | radio is quite nice on google music |
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| 17:24.36 | zenzelezz | I loved this comment in the StackOverflow developer survey... "The more things change, the more likely it is those things are written in JavaScript with NotePad++ on a Windows machine (theme: dark) using Git, and tabs instead of spaces" |
| 17:26.59 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: the problem with it though is most of the premade ones suck, they dont have enough songs and i loop through them |
| 17:28.18 | Arrowmaster | and they dont have a symphonic metal genre radio |
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| 17:33.55 | kullervo | "I've beaten Soul Calibur III with a Guitar Hero controller. It was... interesting." |
| 17:35.57 | mikma | kullervo: not bad. now do it with habanero |
| 17:37.19 | stuf | kullervo: next up, pop'n or 2dx controller |
| 17:38.09 | mikma | kullervo: http://moontv.fi/ohjelmat/pelit/habanero-hero |
| 17:44.13 | kullervo | mind the quotes |
| 17:44.52 | karl_w_w | http://www.siliconera.com/2015/04/08/postal-rejected-from-google-play-store-for-its-gratuitous-violence/ |
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| 18:02.40 | fewyn | HEH diablo3 talk in this week's izombie |
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| 18:28.49 | Semlar | Simca_: any idea where item spells are stored? |
| 18:30.13 | Stanzilla | https://www.messenger.com |
| 18:32.40 | Semlar | maybe itemeffect.db2 |
| 18:35.03 | [TOM_RUS] | they were in item cache back in the days, may be that's still a case |
| 18:36.12 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: how much do you think they spent getting that domain name? |
| 18:36.20 | Semlar | [TOM_RUS]: hmm, you can get the range of an item with an api function though and i don't feel like the item needs to be cache for that |
| 18:37.06 | [TOM_RUS] | you can't use item that isn't in cache |
| 18:37.08 | [TOM_RUS] | so... |
| 18:37.36 | [TOM_RUS] | there's also most of "cache" now stored client side |
| 18:37.42 | Semlar | you have to cache the item first? |
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| 18:38.13 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: metric fuckton |
| 18:38.33 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: they got @messenger on twitter from microsoft for free though |
| 18:38.33 | Arrowmaster | think the previous owner got stock options? |
| 18:38.48 | Arrowmaster | id have ask for stock options |
| 18:39.00 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 18:39.04 | Stanzilla | would be dumb not to |
| 18:40.01 | Semlar | [TOM_RUS]: itemeffect.db2 appears to have the spellid in it so i should be able to look up the range from that |
| 18:44.44 | [TOM_RUS] | and how to you find correct row in itemeffect for specific item? |
| 18:47.19 | Semlar | item id seems to be the second column |
| 18:47.33 | Semlar | and spell id is the fourth, unless i'm reading this wrong |
| 18:47.48 | Semlar | i only looked up one item |
| 18:47.49 | [TOM_RUS] | I tried to lookup some on wowhead and they were missing |
| 18:48.15 | Semlar | well, i looked up field 2 as 37727 and field 4 was 49349 which matches its spell |
| 18:48.47 | Semlar | i suppose it could be a coincidence |
| 18:49.51 | Semlar | i also tried item 1251 and got 746 for its spell, which looks right too |
| 18:50.19 | [TOM_RUS] | I probably tried item that isn't on wowhead |
| 18:50.35 | [TOM_RUS] | 123875 |
| 18:50.36 | Semlar | it's possible it contains references for items that don't necessarily exist |
| 18:51.10 | Semlar | if that's the case i wonder what the api function does |
| 18:51.41 | Semlar | that item id isn't on wowhead, but its spell is |
| 18:51.51 | Semlar | "_JKL Test Item In Spell Cast" |
| 18:53.44 | Arrowmaster | lol "Unit tests fail when run in Australia" |
| 18:58.49 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: !? |
| 18:59.13 | Iriel | I do remember a system whose unit tests failed when run in the evening because someone missed a timezone setting on one half of an interface (but correctly forced UTC on the other) |
| 18:59.38 | Arrowmaster | https://github.com/angular/angular.js/issues/5017 |
| 19:06.44 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: thatâs pretty awesome |
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| 19:31.16 | Stanzilla | https://github.com/blog/1986-announcing-git-large-file-storage-lfs |
| 19:31.26 | Stanzilla | going after p4 :D |
| 19:45.12 | Ackis | meh - after getting my first domain and web-hosting package ever last november, it's been nothing but a headache dealing with it |
| 19:48.11 | Semlar | why |
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| 19:48.42 | Ackis | seems to always be down (ackis.net) pain in the ass to sftp to upload files, etc. |
| 19:49.01 | Semlar | i like dreamhost |
| 19:49.03 | Iriel | If itâs always down, find yerself a new provider |
| 19:49.21 | Iriel | use rsync over ssh to keep your files up to date, or git |
| 19:50.01 | Ackis | can't ssh into the box |
| 19:50.06 | Ackis | if I could I would have just used scp |
| 19:51.04 | fewyn | who are you using Ackis? |
| 19:51.12 | Ackis | hoster box |
| 19:51.38 | fewyn | i like my vps at digitalocean |
| 19:51.52 | phelps | +1 for DO |
| 19:51.58 | bshelden | +1 |
| 19:52.10 | bshelden | I host mumble and minecraft there, along with a website. |
| 19:52.15 | phelps | i have a ref link I can whore out as well |
| 19:52.19 | phelps | $10 free credit |
| 19:52.43 | phelps | https://www.digitalocean.com/?refcode=370bf37555ec |
| 19:52.52 | phelps | you get $10 and I get $25 if you spend $25 |
| 19:52.55 | foxlit | vps isn't quite the same thing |
| 19:53.01 | Ackis | I went with hosterbox because they're Canadian and I'd used their free service for a while without any major problems |
| 19:55.37 | phelps | Ackis, http://www.netelligent.ca/ is the noc hosterbox uses |
| 19:55.53 | kd3 | ugh. always disconcerting out driving and seeing pollen clouds just doing their thing |
| 19:56.13 | phelps | so the downtime has to be on the hosterbox side, idk how shared hosting could go down tbh, must be oversold like crazy |
| 19:56.45 | Ackis | no clue - I can go to ackis.net and it works, but try to go to the cpanel for it and boom nothing |
| 19:57.23 | phelps | try digitalocean if you're not afraid of linux |
| 19:57.41 | Arrowmaster | it has to be oversold |
| 19:57.55 | phelps | yeah, thats my thinking as well |
| 19:58.09 | Arrowmaster | most shared hosts are |
| 19:58.21 | Arrowmaster | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/weiner/the-gentlemans-single-use-monocle |
| 19:58.22 | phelps | thats the model of shared, but to the point of downtime |
| 20:01.35 | fewyn | yeah if they are doing downtime they are meh |
| 20:01.45 | fewyn | i personally like the idea of having full control over the os too |
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| 20:04.34 | phelps | Arrowmaster, they're repackaging china made toys |
| 20:04.34 | phelps | :| |
| 20:04.34 | phelps | you get these at party supply stores for 10 cents |
| 20:05.48 | bshelden | They're claiming they're packaging new jersey made toys |
| 20:06.18 | foxlit | heh, ffxiv story progression has you run three dungeons in succession. |
| 20:06.27 | zenzelezz | :-o New Deus Ex... let's pray it won't be another Invisible War |
| 20:08.12 | Arrowmaster | can we just get the original remastered? |
| 20:12.53 | zenzelezz | if only :( |
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| 20:23.58 | g0urra | can we just stop with remastered games |
| 20:32.25 | Arrowmaster | only if they are good and old, a remastered version of a 1 year old game just because it can be sold on a new gen of consoles needs to die |
| 20:32.38 | Arrowmaster | crap how do i exit hearthstone on my tablet |
| 20:32.52 | kd3 | keep hitting back? |
| 20:33.12 | Arrowmaster | i dont have a softbutton bar when hearthstone is open |
| 20:33.41 | Arrowmaster | oh got it, swipe up from the bottom made a transparent one appear |
| 20:36.19 | Semlar | [TOM_RUS]: any idea where the spell range id is hiding, pxr claims it's in spellmisc.dbc but that doesn't appear to be right |
| 20:36.30 | fewyn | trading 6357 [Blackrock Ore] and 7852 [True Iron Ore] for primal spirits :D |
| 20:37.05 | Mr_Rabies | the old game aged pretty well tbh |
| 20:38.15 | Arrowmaster | last time i played it i was running it on xp |
| 20:38.52 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think it's really a game that would be improved with mindblowing graphics |
| 20:39.19 | Mr_Rabies | no one really thinks in that 80s/90s cyberpunk way anymore, really, so it'd look too different i think |
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| 20:43.57 | kd3 | impressed how skylines breaks at times... http://i.imgur.com/HUoJcVg.jpg |
| 20:50.55 | Fisker | nooo |
| 20:56.16 | kd3 | heh. the frozen canadian basement [ http://i.imgur.com/XuowdWJ.jpg ] has thawed: https://i.imgur.com/VkWmkTn.jpg |
| 20:57.08 | Ressy | where is that? |
| 20:58.04 | kd3 | somewhere where it hit -25c a month ago... the original thread: http://np.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/2xawvp/what_happens_when_the_water_is_not_turned_off_in/ |
| 20:58.37 | Ressy | Which was like, everywhere |
| 21:01.11 | Fisker | nice kd3 |
| 21:03.35 | kd3 | that was in niagra, apparently. http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/2xawvp/what_happens_when_the_water_is_not_turned_off_in/coz8m6j?context=3 |
| 21:13.33 | kullervo | 00:03:20 [W From] [Undecided-Kaz:1]: I don't feel like putting the other tank on ignore but jesus christ you're annoying |
| 21:13.40 | kullervo | people like me, I can tell |
| 21:14.11 | fewyn | i don't think i have enough auctions up atm http://i.imgur.com/ek9XLJz.png |
| 21:14.29 | foxlit | overusung that taunt button? |
| 21:14.43 | harl | oO |
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| 21:15.16 | kullervo | foxlit: no I just whisper stuff |
| 21:15.51 | harl | who buys greens for hundreds of gold anyway.. seriously.. |
| 21:15.54 | kullervo | I think the player was a bit of a burger though, that was the 9th boss and I'd only whispered anything during a fight on the first one |
| 21:16.04 | kullervo | harl: they look good |
| 21:27.45 | zenzelezz | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/04/07/0413244/planes-without-pilots - good lord, the comments section is amusing |
| 21:28.11 | zenzelezz | pretty much two sides, both of which believe they're 100% right and the other is 100% wrong |
| 21:28.29 | zenzelezz | then again, so are most popular discussion forums |
| 21:39.08 | fewyn | harl: they are transmog gear |
| 21:39.15 | fewyn | semi-rare ones |
| 21:39.25 | fewyn | i have sold a couple greens for 20k |
| 21:39.41 | harl | good for you i guess |
| 21:39.56 | harl | i wouldn't buy anything for 20k |
| 21:40.37 | fewyn | that's fine =p some people do |
| 21:40.43 | fewyn | esp if it never drops for them |
| 21:41.13 | fewyn | https://theunderminejournal.com/#us/eonar/seller/rotwyn |
| 21:42.43 | fewyn | https://wowtoken.info/ oh hey its been updated to not look horrible |
| 21:47.24 | Iriel | Pity the graph has no units |
| 21:54.09 | Semlar | it has lines, what more do you want |
| 21:54.36 | plaw | tackle hugs Iriel |
| 21:56.38 | znf | units |
| 21:56.42 | znf | and be interactive |
| 21:56.44 | znf | because it's 2015 |
| 21:56.52 | znf | wonder when will people stop selling the token |
| 21:58.09 | Semlar | so picky |
| 21:59.45 | Unkle | I pity the graph with no units! Mr. T, Stats Professor and M.I.T. |
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| 22:16.43 | Iriel | Semlar: yes, but the lines are not defined, they have no meaning. And thereâs no lines on the X axis |
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| 22:27.36 | znf | Buy Price21,094g |
| 22:27.37 | znf | ouch |
| 22:27.39 | znf | keeps on dropping |
| 22:28.26 | znf | I have a feeling that on EU it will be the opposite somehow |
| 22:29.08 | Iriel | I suspect on EU both sides will try and wait |
| 22:29.32 | Iriel | Maybe, it could be the Token folks will try and get in fast for a better guaranteed price |
| 22:29.45 | Iriel | but then the gold folks will wait because they want the cheapest cost token possible |
| 22:37.15 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: In channel in the middle of the day? Will wonders never cease. |
| 22:37.46 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: Iâm stuck home sick, this is about the level of mental activity iâm good for |
| 22:38.12 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.18 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: Ah. Makes sense. |
| 22:39.31 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: Well the D750 is rather nice. Alas the weekend getaway I was going to use to test it out has been cancled. |
| 22:39.58 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: Hm, take it for a more local spin anyway |
| 22:40.20 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: WHich lens(es) did you pick up? |
| 22:40.37 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: Perhaps. One of my co-workers is going to NAB and wanted to borrow it, to test out. |
| 22:40.51 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: The nikkor 24-105 as part of the base kit. |
| 22:41.20 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: Borrow your brand new toy!? The nerve! |
| 22:42.44 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: Heh, I trust him. |
| 22:43.05 | Iriel | Do you get swag in return? |
| 22:43.33 | Thunder_Child | I don't think there is any swag I would want from there. |
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| 22:48.05 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: Hm, John MacAffee is presenting, they could bring you back some crazy ? |
| 22:48.23 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: Underage Hooker? |
| 22:48.50 | Thunder_Child | I'm surprised he is allowed back in the country. |
| 22:49.06 | Thunder_Child | Unless it is a remote presentation. |
| 22:50.13 | Iriel | It doesnât say itâs remote. |
| 22:50.38 | Iriel | http://nab15.mapyourshow.com/6_0/sessions/speaker-details.cfm?speakerid=10195 |
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| 22:52.55 | Thunder_Child | Eh, not my thing. I don't mind letting someone else break it in. |
| 22:53.07 | Thunder_Child | Does mean I have to bother selling the 5D though. |
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| 23:01.02 | MiRai | When using a nameList with characters on different servers I have to specify character-server in order to get them to show up correctly, but the character(s) who are on the same server don't show up in each others' party list. Is there a way to fix this? |
| 23:01.37 | MiRai | So, when using character-sargeras, everyone who is on sargeras won't be seen in the list by those who are from the server sargeras |
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| 23:06.40 | Iriel | Canât you just check the name for same-server match and remove the suffix when you use it? |
| 23:08.06 | kullervo | http://imgur.com/gallery/g6Ecu |
| 23:08.14 | kullervo | I thought the first ones were a continuation and got really confused |
| 23:08.36 | MiRai | Probably, if I knew something about Lua beyond the kindergarten level. :) I'm trying something else with the file in the mean time. |
| 23:30.21 | Mr_Rabies | tokens are still in a steady glide downwards :O |
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| 23:36.57 | znf | it's funny if people keep selling below 20k :o |
| 23:37.35 | znf | I mean, when they will sell below 20k* |
| 23:39.33 | Mr_Rabies | that's rapidly approaching the third-party sources of gold, isn't it? |
| 23:40.12 | znf | I think it's below |
| 23:40.24 | Mr_Rabies | think i heard $10 for 10k or so a while back (i'm not checking any sites, those places are bound to be covered in viruses/ads with viruses) |
| 23:40.47 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/kY9Md2k.png |
| 23:40.51 | znf | oh, wait, that's US, so... |
| 23:40.52 | znf | eu |
| 23:40.57 | Mr_Rabies | but then again the third party places will probably cut their prices in response until it's just not worth it |
| 23:41.07 | Mr_Rabies | i really hope blizzard successfully runs them out of town with this :V |
| 23:41.08 | znf | 20k for $13-14 |
| 23:41.20 | znf | so, no, 3rd party sellers have better prices |
| 23:41.26 | znf | 30k for $20 |
| 23:41.32 | znf | but, it's the added element of safety |
| 23:41.50 | Mr_Rabies | if accounts hold no value, hopefully they'll move on to something else |
| 23:42.09 | Mr_Rabies | though on the other hand, the new change does give accounts an ACTUAL value, not just a perceived one |
| 23:42.25 | Mr_Rabies | i mean it's still perceived but |
| 23:42.43 | Mr_Rabies | you know, it's more tangible if the company themselves says "this much gold is basically worth this much money" |
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