| 00:05.04 | Mr_Rabies | oh you didn't hear? |
| 00:05.54 | Mr_Rabies | they've decided they're done, we beat it |
| 00:05.56 | Mr_Rabies | we beat the game |
| 00:06.09 | kd3 | sweet |
| 00:07.48 | A-KO | sup kd3 |
| 00:07.52 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 00:08.27 | A-KO | Chattanooga was nice...gig internets ftw |
| 00:08.31 | jleclanche | if anyone's interested in firefox development, the Webflow team has placed a $2500 bounty on bug #77790 (Implementing scrollbar styling in css) |
| 00:08.38 | jleclanche | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77790 |
| 00:09.11 | kd3 | ayup, a-ko. got a cousin up there working for VW in IT security... he's very happy with that |
| 00:10.42 | A-KO | I've considered actually looking into a net engineering job with EPB down there. Dunno.... |
| 00:10.46 | A-KO | Need to pick something and choose to do it |
| 00:11.21 | A-KO | tons of jobs here, tons of jobs almost wherever I want to go, including Dubai... |
| 00:12.17 | Arrowmaster | why would you want to goto dubai |
| 00:12.39 | A-KO | why not? |
| 00:12.45 | Arrowmaster | terrible laws |
| 00:12.47 | A-KO | You can get paid like 6K + housing, tax free |
| 00:12.50 | jleclanche | terrible weather |
| 00:12.50 | A-KO | 6K/month |
| 00:12.51 | A-KO | + housing |
| 00:12.55 | A-KO | weather/heat is a problem |
| 00:13.08 | jleclanche | terrible country overall |
| 00:13.14 | A-KO | lol |
| 00:13.14 | Mr_Rabies | they can basically throw you in jail for -anything- there, no thanks |
| 00:13.17 | Dagmar | There's some environmental problems, like lead poisoning. |
| 00:13.18 | Mr_Rabies | also it's a very sinking ship |
| 00:13.33 | Mr_Rabies | that oil money ain't lookin' so hot now that oil's cheap |
| 00:13.49 | A-KO | What are you talking about? They can make money off of oil far lower than what we can :P |
| 00:13.50 | Arrowmaster | and all the slave labor |
| 00:13.54 | A-KO | ^ that is true |
| 00:13.58 | A-KO | tons of slave/indentured labor there |
| 00:14.19 | Arrowmaster | the entire city was built by workers that cant leave the country |
| 00:14.34 | Arrowmaster | that arent even citizens of the country |
| 00:20.10 | kd3 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates |
| 00:26.11 | plaw | oops http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/falklands-invasion-guide-containing-gps-5465754 |
| 00:26.22 | Arrowmaster | the stories that sold me on never stepping foot in UAE was of female rape victims being prosecuted and foreign workers being deported for contracting hiv or hepc under any circumstances |
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| 00:35.12 | kd3 | shifting gears to something slightly less weighty... what happens when two guys were raised by dolphins: http://i.imgur.com/Om6wTBh.gifv |
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| 01:27.29 | bones__ | anyone have experience with textures embedded in fontstrings ignoring the parent's alpha value until it changes alpha for at least one frame? seems like a wow bug but i cant find a workaround |
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| 01:46.19 | Semlar | i can't say that's anything i've managed to run into |
| 01:47.21 | Semlar | i've embedded textures in raid warnings and i haven't noticed anything odd when they fade out |
| 01:47.49 | Semlar | but i doubt i'd even notice a 1 frame delay in transparency |
| 01:49.34 | Semlar | bones__: do you have a transparent chat frame or something |
| 01:49.48 | bones__ | yeah, if you're changing it every frame it's fine. problem is they seem to always draw at alpha 1.0 for the first frame, but they "think" they're whatever alpha their parent is. doing redundant setalphas in code doesnt work either since they need to actually draw at a different alpha ebfore they udpate |
| 01:50.42 | bones__ | basically yeah, its a quest tracker type frame. i wanted to enable alpha changes but i sue the embedded textures a lot and this makes it a huge pain |
| 01:50.49 | bones__ | use** |
| 01:50.55 | Semlar | i would not be at all surprised if they behaved differently from the text |
| 01:51.22 | bones__ | i might just have to turn them all into textures, kind of sucks. but i cant find a way to get this working any other way |
| 02:01.22 | jleclanche | that's a neat screenshot, Stratholme with Winterspring in the background: https://i.imgur.com/ec0s6UV.jpg |
| 02:01.29 | jleclanche | (why yes I'm bored) |
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| 02:07.14 | jleclanche | I wonder why blizzard felt the area needed parking spaces: https://i.imgur.com/OWbcTKi.jpg |
| 02:08.07 | Semlar | bones__: this doesn't have a delay, it just ignores the parent alpha |
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| 02:12.12 | Semlar | any fix for this would be worse than just using your own textures |
| 02:16.40 | bones__ | well i found a weird workaround. if you call Hide then Show after the SetText it applies the alpha correctly |
| 02:17.16 | Semlar | i literally just tried that and it didn't work |
| 02:17.35 | bones__ | hmm.. its working in the setup i have |
| 02:18.04 | bones__ | hang on, maybe its cos im also explicitly setting the frame alpha each udpate as well |
| 02:18.07 | Semlar | as far as i can tell it's not adopting the alpha until the texture has been loaded, then you change the alpha and change it back |
| 02:19.01 | Semlar | for example, if the font string's alpha starts at 0 and you call font:SetAlpha(0) it will never hide the icon |
| 02:19.20 | Semlar | but if you call font:SetAlpha(1) font:SetAlpha(0) it will work, but only after the icon has been loaded |
| 02:20.36 | bones__ | yeah.. i think i found a way, but its very ugly. after you settext, do hide/show, then on your parent frame change alpha to a different value then abck to its real value |
| 02:20.40 | bones__ | very ugly though |
| 02:20.59 | bones__ | but it seems to get it set to the right alpha on the same frame |
| 02:21.45 | Semlar | pfft, you don't want to call text:Hide() text:Show() text:SetAlpha(1) textL:SetAlpha(0) ? |
| 02:21.49 | Semlar | -L |
| 02:22.48 | bones__ | well doing that is easier than making my own textures so i might, even though it feels icky |
| 02:23.29 | Semlar | clearly you should just make a function to call instead of SetText that calls SetText, Hide, Show, and SetAlpha twice |
| 02:23.43 | Semlar | i don't see how this could ever backfire |
| 02:25.47 | bones__ | yeah, i realised now thanks to what you said that i can actually just do that on the text itself, i also had a hack going that did it to the parent frame |
| 02:25.57 | bones__ | when i can keep it all in the settext its cleaner |
| 02:26.00 | bones__ | guess ill do that |
| 02:26.05 | Semlar | >_> |
| 02:28.56 | Semlar | if you want, you could replace the .SetText method on your font strings with that |
| 02:29.11 | Semlar | just call a local reference to the original SetText method |
| 02:30.59 | bones__ | yeah. i normally dont need to do it but i think ill just add a special method like, SetTextIcon, or something that automatically does it for lines that might have embedded textures |
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| 03:35.48 | Trela | <Alexia> Oh boy boy, new Walking Dead tonight! *Checks downloads.* ...Fucking holidays. |
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| 03:55.56 | Ixnorp | Is there a macro command for getting rid of the "spell casting targeting hand" like you get when you're targeting an area spell or something else which requires a target such a ressurection. I tried looking for it in wowpedia's macro reference but I didn't see or overlooked it. |
| 04:03.02 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:08.01 | Semlar | well that doesn't work |
| 04:08.27 | Semlar | the only way i know to cancel the reticle is to have an action button with a type of "stop" |
| 04:08.50 | Semlar | which you could /click if you wanted it in a macro |
| 04:10.45 | Semlar | eg. CreateFrame('button','stahp',nil,'SecureActionButtonTemplate'):SetAttribute('type','stop') and then /click stahp |
| 04:14.14 | nebula169 | eh? you could simply just have a target for the spells, the hand only happens with no target/[] |
| 04:28.01 | Semlar | that's not what he asked |
| 04:28.18 | Semlar | but he also didn't say what it was for |
| 04:30.46 | Semlar | i mean, if this is for spells with targeting circles you can't very well skip that step |
| 04:31.17 | nebula169 | wish you could "quick cast" area target spells, though |
| 04:31.54 | Semlar | i actually wrote something that let you double-tap a hotkey to cast it on the second click but it was pretty questionable |
| 04:33.29 | Semlar | it required using a modifier key with the spell and it didn't always work very well when the targeted area wasn't something you could target |
| 04:34.23 | Semlar | but basically the first time you pressed the key it would cast the spell, then rebind that key to perform a left click, and then bind it back to the spell when you released the modifier key |
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| 04:35.58 | Semlar | it needed the modifier key because i couldn't find any other way to reset the key back to casting the spell after you clicked with it |
| 04:37.55 | Semlar | i think most people just use autohotkey for that and never get in trouble for it |
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| 05:07.10 | Torhal | Trela: Walking Dead ended last week... |
| 05:07.29 | Torhal | Well, the season did anyway. |
| 05:07.35 | Trela | That was the final...? Well fuck. |
| 05:07.44 | Torhal | Yup yup. |
| 05:13.30 | nebula169 | didn't get as crazy as i thought it would, more of a teaser for next season |
| 05:14.51 | Semlar | everyone dies |
| 05:15.44 | Torhal | You just gave away a huge spoiler for Real, Actual Life, Semlar. |
| 05:15.53 | Semlar | dark, torhal |
| 05:16.09 | Torhal | :/ |
| 05:16.13 | Torhal | goes to bed. |
| 05:16.26 | Semlar | watch out for mimics |
| 05:19.40 | Semlar | ah nevermind, you won't see them anyway |
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| 06:27.12 | bluspacecow | ~wowalert |
| 06:27.15 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
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| 07:06.20 | Mr_Rabies | that's why i carry around a pile of lloyd's talismans semlar |
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| 08:39.07 | d[karl]b | Shirik, make a symlink to the directory you want to install it to from a larger hard drive |
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| 09:17.37 | foxlit | Ixnorp: yes, there is. |
| 09:18.22 | foxlit | nebula169: wish you could "quick cast" area target spells, though << https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIlELJ0YsVM |
| 09:20.10 | nevcairiel | how often 3d targeting ends up at the ceiling or wrapping around some odd corner that you didnt see, a quick confirmation is probably not too bad :p |
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| 10:49.12 | Ixnorp | A much belated reply because apparently TCP/IP over beer is not a thing yet, but the purpose of my earlier question was primarily in relation to Binding Heal which I occasionally try and cast on myself and wind up having to clear the cursor. The replies were helpful. Thank you nebula169 and Semlar. |
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| 11:10.31 | foxlit | before I do something incredibly silly, how does curse client handle multiple directories coming from the same addon? |
| 11:10.56 | foxlit | i.e. foo.zip contains both Foo/Foo.toc and Bar/Bar.toc |
| 11:27.19 | d[karl]b | handle? |
| 11:27.31 | d[karl]b | it just puts things in their foldersa |
| 11:29.32 | karl_w_w | how do you handle multiple directories coming from the same addon? :P |
| 11:29.59 | Simca | foxlit: it just extracts everything in foo.zip to the Interface\AddOns\ folder |
| 11:31.04 | foxlit | nd tracking updates afterwards? |
| 11:31.50 | Simca | same as usual as far as i know. if you had a second folder in one version and then posted a new version with only one folder, the straggler folder would remain |
| 11:32.15 | karl_w_w | I bet it wouldn't |
| 11:32.34 | Simca | it's possible it wouldn't |
| 11:33.15 | Simca | I know it does track multiple folders - if you right-click an addon in the list and go to browse folders, it will offer multiple options for the folders if there should be multiple options |
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| 11:35.27 | Torhal | foxlit: Currently, it blows the folder away before updating. |
| 11:38.40 | foxlit | every folder that it isreplacing during an install, probably. |
| 12:23.23 | nevcairiel | it gets totally confused when two addons include the same folder though, say a library that wants to live as a top level folder and multiple someones think its smart to just bundle it in the zip like that |
| 12:23.27 | nevcairiel | it doesnt know which addon to link it to |
| 12:23.38 | nevcairiel | some oUF layouts have that problem |
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| 12:24.42 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:25.10 | haste | doesn't even the curse client handle dependencies? :P |
| 12:28.04 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning. I must now go and be educated, but it was fun while it lasted... |
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| 14:05.36 | haste | early pizza is early zenzelezz |
| 14:05.53 | Kalroth | mmm, pizza |
| 14:34.01 | Peppy-Away | Pizza is eeevil. |
| 14:34.08 | fewyn | lies |
| 14:34.10 | fewyn | and slander |
| 14:36.42 | Lopeppeppy | Slander, truly. But no lie. |
| 14:38.55 | Fisker | rehugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 14:39.12 | Lopeppeppy | I am well educated, look at me. (I hate staff meetings on monday mornings!) |
| 14:41.00 | zenzelezz | today isn't a public holiday in the US? |
| 14:41.27 | Torhal | Newp. |
| 14:41.41 | Torhal | Could be a private holiday to some folks, though. |
| 14:41.42 | Torhal | :D |
| 14:41.57 | zenzelezz | that hardly counts :-) |
| 14:42.31 | zenzelezz | while I'm not religious, I do appreciate some of the public holidays we have as a relic |
| 14:42.58 | zenzelezz | last Thursday and Friday, and today. A lot of people take Monday-Wednesday as private holidays that week to get a nice long break |
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| 14:59.10 | Lopeppeppy | A very few places closed early on Friday or are closed today, but overall - somehow Thanksgiving is a bigger holiday than Easter. |
| 15:16.09 | karl_w_w | somehow? |
| 15:16.20 | karl_w_w | easter is a nothing holiday |
| 15:16.32 | karl_w_w | unless you're in the chocolate industry |
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| 15:43.21 | Thunder_Child | Or fake plastic grass. |
| 15:56.53 | phelps | or a chicken |
| 16:00.41 | Thunder_Child | I thought it was ham? |
| 16:04.24 | fewyn | oh hey master plan can now send a bunch of groups at once now with alt click? that's neato |
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| 16:16.08 | pompy | lol wow .. .ive been afkd in wow for 7 hours now and still logged in to the server due to that bug where it goes into an endless loop trying to log you out caused by alt tabbing during loading screen. |
| 16:24.13 | Maldivia | hax0r |
| 16:37.49 | karl_w_w | pompy, reported |
| 16:44.06 | pompy | oh noes |
| 16:53.30 | Fisker | reported for reporting |
| 16:54.02 | znf | is noblegarden live? |
| 17:00.18 | zenzelezz | "reported"... |
| 17:00.41 | zenzelezz | there are two things I remember in particular from trade chat back in early 06; "reported" and "imba" |
| 17:00.52 | zenzelezz | (when I started playing) |
| 17:04.39 | Fisker | I remember you zenzelezz |
| 17:05.02 | zenzelezz | i remember you too Fisker |
| 17:05.06 | znf | UUU |
| 17:05.09 | znf | WOWT OKEN |
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| 17:07.12 | Fisker | Hey Unkle |
| 17:07.34 | Unkle | Hello Fisker |
| 17:07.48 | Fisker | Hi |
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| 17:09.25 | pompy | "WoW Token Releases April 7 in the US - $20 and 30k Gold" |
| 17:09.56 | znf | old pompy |
| 17:10.22 | Fisker | old znf |
| 17:11.12 | pompy | ~old znf and Fisker |
| 17:11.45 | pompy | ~old |
| 17:11.45 | purl | DefectiveUser's mom is old |
| 17:11.57 | pompy | wtf |
| 17:12.01 | pompy | ~random |
| 17:12.08 | zenzelezz | ~literal old |
| 17:12.08 | purl | "old" is "<reply>$randnick's mom is old" |
| 17:13.07 | znf | poor DefectiveUser |
| 17:15.05 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/585126072242475008 |
| 17:15.08 | fewyn | yessss |
| 17:15.10 | znf | old fewyn |
| 17:16.51 | fewyn | i just now saw the tweet :? |
| 17:17.08 | pompy | scroll up! |
| 17:17.18 | znf | like, 10 minutes old! |
| 17:17.19 | znf | an eternity |
| 17:17.30 | fewyn | i was busy doing garrison things! |
| 17:17.52 | fewyn | 30k is actually cheaper than what i was trading guildies for GTC |
| 17:17.58 | foxlit | coincidentally, 30k gold is probably less than mission income / 30 days. |
| 17:18.03 | znf | it is, indeed |
| 17:18.08 | znf | fewyn, it's more for me :D |
| 17:18.11 | fewyn | i was doing 50k recently |
| 17:18.13 | znf | I got 90 days last time for 55k |
| 17:18.18 | fewyn | what |
| 17:18.24 | fewyn | you got a steal |
| 17:18.48 | foxlit | especially with alts. So it'll be going up, then. |
| 17:19.07 | fewyn | i have one more alt to go before i have a level 100 of each class each faction |
| 17:19.29 | phelps | wownolifebro |
| 17:19.34 | fewyn | just in time for me to finally get a new job *crosses fingers* |
| 17:19.37 | Unkle | ... You guys are hard core. |
| 17:19.46 | fewyn | i've been unemployed for about 6 months |
| 17:19.59 | znf | fewyn, not really, guy checked gold selling websites |
| 17:20.06 | znf | asked for 50k, I sent him 55k |
| 17:20.09 | foxlit | (pirate gold is like USD11.4/20kg on some EU realm) |
| 17:20.16 | phelps | 30k is way too high |
| 17:20.19 | fewyn | interesting |
| 17:20.21 | Unkle | That'd do it. When I was I was between gigs I spent a lot of 'spare' time playing WoW. |
| 17:20.33 | phelps | I've paid 11k to 15k in the past via /2 |
| 17:20.35 | fewyn | it's a lot cheaper than any other habit i could have Unkle |
| 17:20.41 | fewyn | especially since i have barely any income |
| 17:20.46 | Unkle | fewyn: Yes. Exactly. |
| 17:20.50 | phelps | and thats 11k for a $15 card, not $20 |
| 17:21.26 | fewyn | i find making gold semi-easy so being able to pay for my game time with it works for me |
| 17:21.38 | znf | phelps, yeah, but in the past you could get gold from RaF |
| 17:21.45 | znf | erm |
| 17:21.46 | znf | I mean, gametime |
| 17:21.47 | znf | for cheap |
| 17:21.53 | znf | I used to get it for 11k |
| 17:22.11 | znf | But they shut out that method when they made RaF rewards wait for 3-4 days for purchase verifications |
| 17:24.09 | phelps | well, at the current AH price, it'll make a profit to buy cards, sell them in the AH, turn around and sell that gold |
| 17:24.24 | phelps | $20 -> 30k doesn't match 3rd party options |
| 17:24.31 | phelps | $20 -> 22k |
| 17:24.36 | phelps | SHOULD be where its at |
| 17:24.59 | nevcairiel | you get added safety and not a annoyed mail by blizzard that you shouldnt be buying gold |
| 17:25.00 | phelps | gold sellers will simply buy gametime and then sell the gold on 3rd part sites for a profit |
| 17:25.06 | nevcairiel | besides, the market will control that value |
| 17:25.15 | phelps | and the gold sellers will equalize the market |
| 17:25.46 | znf | I'm not sure how you did the math |
| 17:25.57 | nevcairiel | I bet that many people that used third-party sellers before will now refrain from using a website that already looks kinda shady and has a uncertain delivery concept |
| 17:25.58 | znf | but nevcairiel has a good point |
| 17:26.16 | fewyn | yeah |
| 17:26.18 | nevcairiel | plus i could imagine Blizzard starting to crack down on people actually buying third-party gold now |
| 17:26.21 | znf | you're butt-clenching when you sell/buy gold, because the seller/buyer might not show up |
| 17:26.24 | fewyn | i bought gold once... back in vanilla |
| 17:26.26 | znf | and people are afraid they'll get scammed |
| 17:26.30 | fewyn | was super shady back then |
| 17:26.39 | znf | now there's no fear of not getting it |
| 17:26.53 | phelps | I think these gold sellers will swamp the market because of the price difference and attempt to make some money, not saying it'll work |
| 17:26.54 | fewyn | i'm just glad blizzard finally implemented it |
| 17:26.57 | phelps | I just expect it to happen |
| 17:27.00 | fewyn | even if it's not exactly how i'd like it |
| 17:27.16 | fewyn | i'd like to be able to buy up the tokens and resell them at a profit... or a loss if i get unlucky |
| 17:27.19 | znf | It's exactly how I want it :D |
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| 17:27.24 | znf | fewyn, nope. |
| 17:27.28 | znf | You can't resell it :D |
| 17:27.29 | fewyn | i like how EVE does it |
| 17:27.30 | fewyn | i know |
| 17:27.46 | znf | That's one of the ways they're trying to control the market |
| 17:27.49 | znf | one seller, one buyer |
| 17:27.55 | fewyn | yeah |
| 17:27.56 | nevcairiel | they want to avoid excessive market manipulation, so thats why its done like that :p |
| 17:27.56 | znf | no 3rd party that could mangle the price |
| 17:28.00 | phelps | I wonder what will be higher, supply or demand |
| 17:28.09 | fewyn | i think demand will be higher |
| 17:28.11 | fewyn | personally |
| 17:28.13 | znf | I'm actually expecting it to drop in price |
| 17:28.14 | nevcairiel | judging from some polls, demand |
| 17:28.33 | nevcairiel | which is fine for me, i can sell some then |
| 17:28.36 | znf | Remember the baby-cub-pet thingie from a while ago? |
| 17:28.38 | fewyn | going to see how it shakes out |
| 17:28.49 | fewyn | the guardian cub |
| 17:28.49 | nevcairiel | znf: that comparison is so stupiud |
| 17:28.50 | znf | when they implemented that pet you could sell on the AH for gold? |
| 17:28.50 | phelps | see, if thats the case, something has to give, the price drops or the 3rd party sites go bunk (will they allow that?) |
| 17:28.54 | nevcairiel | noone needs a damn pet |
| 17:29.00 | nevcairiel | but people do need game time |
| 17:29.01 | fewyn | well not anymore =p |
| 17:29.02 | znf | People "need" it :P |
| 17:29.09 | fewyn | everyone has one! |
| 17:29.16 | fewyn | i know i bought mine on the AH |
| 17:29.19 | fewyn | when it came out |
| 17:29.23 | znf | Same |
| 17:29.33 | znf | I'm just saying that it dropped in price fast |
| 17:29.35 | nevcairiel | the comparison is still stupid, there are far less people that are going to buy a pet, and even if they do, they do it once |
| 17:29.45 | nevcairiel | game time is like the air to breath |
| 17:29.47 | nevcairiel | people need it |
| 17:29.57 | Fisker | I need you nevcairiel |
| 17:29.59 | nevcairiel | so they might switch to it instead of buying cards otherwise |
| 17:33.26 | nevcairiel | I know you do Fisker, but i can't be everywhere =( |
| 17:33.49 | Fisker | ;( |
| 17:37.26 | phelps | well, if the price stays at or goes above 30k, I think thats a pretty amazing value for $20 |
| 17:38.06 | phelps | the 3rd party option is $25 for 30k |
| 17:38.28 | phelps | I'm curious if the difference in price will cause 3rd party options to lower the price a lot |
| 17:38.48 | phelps | or if they'll attempt to sell gametime in game and drive the supply higher than demeand |
| 17:39.01 | phelps | to bring the 30k down to 20k, where the prices would then be equal |
| 17:39.36 | phelps | it'd be nothing for these people to go and buy 100s of gametime tokens to post on the AH |
| 17:42.56 | znf | I doubt such a thing will happen |
| 17:43.07 | znf | chinese sellers are conservative with their actual money |
| 17:43.56 | phelps | these people aren't chinese, not on this site |
| 17:44.04 | phelps | well, some of them are |
| 17:45.09 | Unkle | And if they DO buy a lot of tokens (10/account/30days) that's a lot more dollars in Blizzard's bank accounts. |
| 17:45.30 | phelps | hopefully it'll stop people from buying via 3rd party sites |
| 17:45.36 | phelps | but I don't think it will |
| 17:46.49 | phelps | I've seen exploits in WoW be hammered so hard, literally 100s of bots flying into stonecore, endlessly, for days |
| 17:47.13 | phelps | so I don't doubt a single bit, that they'd exploit the price difference |
| 17:48.59 | phelps | it'll be interesting and I'm excited to watch |
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| 18:16.56 | Semlar | voyeur |
| 18:20.19 | Fisker | Wrong chat Semlar |
| 18:20.32 | Semlar | he said he was excited to watch! |
| 18:28.26 | Thunder_Child | To be fair, I thought the same thing. |
| 18:28.45 | Thunder_Child | I simply had the good taste not to type it. |
| 18:29.47 | Semlar | i have no such reservations |
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| 18:37.11 | Semlar | if you're making a library, what do you do about loading a newer version of it after an older one has been loaded |
| 18:37.50 | Semlar | you need a function to basically turn off the older one? |
| 18:38.29 | foxlit | 1. never make libraries |
| 18:39.05 | foxlit | 2. never release non-breaking updates to libraries |
| 18:39.39 | zenzelezz | how so? |
| 18:39.48 | foxlit | 3. failing that, you're in for unpleasantness if your library is sufficiently complex |
| 18:40.50 | foxlit | maintaining cross-version hand-off code is a pain. Ideally, you'd transfer required data to the new instance and re-point all the references |
| 18:41.11 | foxlit | but those references are probably in people's locals, so you can't steal them eadily. |
| 18:41.48 | Semlar | i see |
| 18:42.18 | foxlit | which brings you to proxies and metatables, but the short answer there is "don't" |
| 18:44.06 | foxlit | in other words, think very, very carefully about whether you need to support in-memory upgrades for your would-be library. |
| 18:45.06 | foxlit | you could say |
| 18:45.10 | Semlar | i suppose i could just make every version separate |
| 18:45.26 | Torhal | Semlar: LibStub exists for a reason? |
| 18:45.36 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:46.22 | Semlar | how would libstub handle shutting down the already-loaded library when loading another one |
| 18:46.30 | foxlit | it wouldn't. |
| 18:47.07 | foxlit | best case, it'd punt that problem on to you, giving you a ref to the old version |
| 18:47.11 | Torhal | If you're talking about LibMyStuff-1.0 versus LibMyStuff-1.1, those are completely independant libs. |
| 18:47.33 | Torhal | s/dant/dent/ |
| 18:47.40 | foxlit | [^...] which transforms the how-to-migrate problem into a how-to-select-latest-version, which is somewhat easier. |
| 18:49.27 | Torhal | If it's the same "version" but you've changed things under the hood (non-API-breaking stuff), it's on you to migrate the data to whatever new form you've made. |
| 18:50.25 | Semlar | indeed |
| 18:51.25 | phelps | it wouldn't be too hard using semantic versioning and something like libstub |
| 18:51.40 | phelps | since you can increase the version on in non backwards compat changes |
| 18:51.52 | phelps | s/in/any/ |
| 18:51.58 | phelps | oh my lol |
| 18:52.27 | Torhal | The convention is, literally, to make a new project with a different name (1.1 or even 2.0 versus 1.0) |
| 18:52.50 | foxlit | i.e. "2. never release non-breaking updates to libraries" |
| 18:52.55 | Torhal | Within the same "version", you increment the minor version by 1 and LibStub handles the rest, unless you need to do migrations. |
| 18:54.12 | Torhal | And migrations are only something you need when you realize "Oh, shit, I can do this more efficiently if I change the underlying storage to do..." |
| 18:54.23 | Torhal | Otherwise, you just increment the minor. |
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| 19:16.23 | Torhal | Here, Unkle: http://www.teefury.com/wyld-stallyns-ii |
| 19:21.27 | karl_w_w | http://i.4cdn.org/b/1428342113628.webm |
| 19:21.32 | karl_w_w | this is how the snails win |
| 19:35.27 | Fisker | Innocent like Lopeppeppy Torhal |
| 19:44.44 | Torhal | !!! |
| 19:47.54 | Lopeppeppy | Poor Torhal and the driven snow. |
| 19:54.44 | Unkle | Torhal: ZOMG, WANT |
| 19:56.19 | kd3 | ugh. the pollen is here |
| 19:56.43 | Fisker | Not if I can help it |
| 19:57.32 | kd3 | everything is yellow. yuk |
| 19:58.56 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.37 | Arrowmaster | Semlar: AceLibrary and RockLibrary tried to do this stuff with providing functions to call when upgrading and other such stuff, IT NEVER WORKED PROPERLY |
| 19:59.52 | Arrowmaster | never ever ever ever |
| 19:59.56 | Unkle | kd3: What's the word on on the job offer? |
| 20:00.11 | kd3 | getting a callback later this afternoon |
| 20:00.18 | Unkle | Awww yeah |
| 20:00.40 | Fisker | What's the word on the street? |
| 20:04.18 | foxlit | Fisker: "froward." |
| 20:04.42 | Fisker | But master baggins |
| 20:12.19 | kd3 | hot damn. doing my mount runs, finally got the fiery warhorse's reins |
| 20:13.46 | foxlit | the flight changes in 6.1 are weird |
| 20:14.02 | foxlit | it chooses a -> b -> c -> d instead of a -> c -> d |
| 20:19.13 | Mr_Rabies | oh neat |
| 20:19.23 | Mr_Rabies | go to ashran, more horde in our camp than alliance |
| 20:19.23 | Mr_Rabies | cool |
| 20:20.30 | foxlit | it's okay, they'll vanish in a minute or three. |
| 20:20.38 | Fisker | I want the nvidia shield already |
| 20:23.02 | Fisker | Hear my pleas |
| 20:24.27 | Semlar | Arrowmaster: yeah i figured it would probably be more trouble than it's worth |
| 20:25.02 | Arrowmaster | its one of those problems you have to really think about before implementing because it has to be done properly in the old version |
| 20:26.06 | Arrowmaster | for simple things just use the same data table between versions, if you are changing the data layout then you might run into some serious issues |
| 20:28.27 | plaw | tackle hugs Mr_Rabies |
| 20:28.43 | Fisker | Good night cruel world |
| 20:34.11 | pompy | kd3: grats. I got https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35894760/WoWScrnShot_040415_162447.jpg yesterday on my 69th kill! |
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| 20:51.13 | Mr_Rabies | argh |
| 20:51.19 | Mr_Rabies | ashran is a nightmare |
| 20:51.25 | Mr_Rabies | everytime i go there i regret it |
| 20:51.46 | Mr_Rabies | i wanna build the auction house for my trading post but the ashran parts are insane |
| 20:51.51 | Mr_Rabies | 200k for the module |
| 20:53.07 | nevcairiel | i have one of the three parts, twice .. the others didnt want to drop |
| 20:55.32 | Mr_Rabies | 35k is the cheapest part from the ashran stuff |
| 20:55.35 | Mr_Rabies | my realm really doesn't pvp |
| 21:00.45 | foxlit | maybe try the group finder |
| 21:01.10 | Mr_Rabies | i also don't really pvp :v |
| 21:01.11 | foxlit | (wait, does that work?) |
| 21:01.22 | Mr_Rabies | doubt it, since it does xrealm matching |
| 21:01.40 | Mr_Rabies | you can probably enter the queue and if you do get in you'll probably get in with your group but no clue |
| 21:02.22 | Mr_Rabies | oh hmm |
| 21:02.24 | Mr_Rabies | looks like you can |
| 21:02.27 | foxlit | yeah, it works |
| 21:02.31 | Mr_Rabies | there is an ashran category in the finder |
| 21:03.39 | kd3 | >.< shouldn't have waited to run lfr |
| 21:03.42 | kd3 | determination's up to 3 |
| 21:05.12 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 21:05.38 | Mr_Rabies | other than the runes, i'm glad lfr is totally ignorable for anyone interested in anything higher |
| 21:05.55 | kullervo | even with the runes it is |
| 21:06.07 | kullervo | unless you don't have time to look for an organized raid that week |
| 21:06.16 | Mr_Rabies | it's kinda dumb that it's basically the only source of runes |
| 21:06.22 | kd3 | eh, I don't have a fixed schedule so even with group finder normal's kinda tough |
| 21:06.30 | Mr_Rabies | what do you mean, kullervo? |
| 21:06.36 | Semlar | they don't bind |
| 21:06.39 | Mr_Rabies | ohh |
| 21:06.41 | Semlar | you aren't forced to run it |
| 21:06.45 | Mr_Rabies | they're super expensive on my realm |
| 21:06.49 | Mr_Rabies | like 200g each i think |
| 21:06.54 | kullervo | oh you meant THOSE runes |
| 21:07.02 | Mr_Rabies | yeah sorry |
| 21:07.05 | Mr_Rabies | augment runes |
| 21:07.07 | Mr_Rabies | not runestones |
| 21:07.19 | foxlit | insignificant bonus |
| 21:07.19 | kullervo | lol 200g each I'd be... even richer than now |
| 21:07.33 | Mr_Rabies | i wish they'd just last through death :( |
| 21:07.37 | kullervo | 10-15 minutes to run a random heroic for a satchel |
| 21:07.43 | Mr_Rabies | doing progression and throwing away so much gold with each attempt is a nightmare |
| 21:08.01 | kullervo | most of the time it's not worth it to use those |
| 21:08.06 | kullervo | it's <1% stat gain |
| 21:08.10 | foxlit | just... don't use them. |
| 21:08.26 | Semlar | oh yeah i only use them on a fight if it looks like we have any sort of chance of killing it |
| 21:08.34 | Semlar | otherwise it's kind of a waste |
| 21:08.39 | Mr_Rabies | i typically don't use them unless we're getting close |
| 21:08.59 | Mr_Rabies | once we start getting <10% wipes is when i usually start using them |
| 21:09.03 | kullervo | I use them when I want to whore rankings |
| 21:09.07 | Mr_Rabies | and if something's on farm i don't really bother |
| 21:09.24 | foxlit | reverse would be more efficient |
| 21:09.39 | Mr_Rabies | yeah but if you're gonna kill it, you don't need it |
| 21:09.41 | Mr_Rabies | like |
| 21:09.43 | Mr_Rabies | if it's a guarantee |
| 21:09.59 | kullervo | being realm #1 takes that extra effort |
| 21:10.03 | foxlit | then you save time. |
| 21:10.12 | Mr_Rabies | new build :O |
| 21:10.29 | Mr_Rabies | 19865 |
| 21:10.44 | Mr_Rabies | is that the ptr version going live? |
| 21:10.46 | foxlit | on the other hand, if you're "progressing," chances are you have bigger issues than 50 primary stat is going to solve, and deaths eat them. |
| 21:11.24 | Mr_Rabies | it's hard getting good players on this realm, we carry a lot more than we'd like to :/ |
| 21:11.32 | kullervo | sometimes the problem can be "boss should change phase 3 seconds earlier" |
| 21:12.37 | foxlit | push buttons 0.5% harder :) |
| 21:12.48 | Semlar | we're already pushing them as hard as we can foxlit |
| 21:13.06 | Semlar | SHE CAN'T TAKE ANY MORE |
| 21:14.29 | foxlit | tries to calm Semlar down. |
| 21:14.35 | Semlar | tries to clam foxlit up |
| 21:16.41 | Mr_Rabies | i desperately need more crit |
| 21:16.56 | Mr_Rabies | i'm a good player but my numbers are lacking since crit gear is constantly evading me |
| 21:17.01 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
| 21:17.42 | Mr_Rabies | i really want reforging back if they're not gonna do something about the weird secondary stat imbalances |
| 21:18.45 | Mr_Rabies | a good fix that they totally can't do now would have been just having gear only have primary stats and all the secondary stuff comes from gems, but that might be too much of a boon to jc |
| 21:19.01 | Mr_Rabies | with each piece having 2 gem slots, able to roll 3 |
| 21:25.15 | karl_w_w | did twitch just get hacked again |
| 21:26.14 | kd3 | since ~10 days ago? |
| 21:26.38 | karl_w_w | it forgot my password |
| 21:26.47 | karl_w_w | which is how it all started last time |
| 21:26.48 | kd3 | they reset everybody's password |
| 21:27.22 | kd3 | http://blog.twitch.tv/2015/03/important-notice-about-your-twitch-account/ |
| 21:27.42 | karl_w_w | no |
| 21:27.48 | karl_w_w | literally a few minutes ago |
| 21:28.03 | karl_w_w | I was logged in, changed stream and had to log in again |
| 21:28.15 | Dagmar | Fun! |
| 21:28.17 | karl_w_w | and it didn't take my password |
| 21:44.46 | Semlar | it's a trap |
| 21:55.52 | Torhal | A tarp! |
| 22:02.20 | Cairenn | coverup! |
| 22:04.13 | karl_w_w | http://esportsexpress.com/2015/03/taylor-swift-hearthstone-class/ |
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| 23:09.02 | znf | Anyone knows a bit of python? What's wrong with this: if re.match("(jpg|png|gif|pdf|mp4|webm|webp|exe|zip|rar)$", url, re.IGNORECASE) |
| 23:09.06 | znf | ain't matching :( |
| 23:09.37 | foxlit | what does match do, in your opinion? |
| 23:09.54 | foxlit | does "foobar" match /bar$/? |
| 23:10.38 | znf | it should? |
| 23:10.42 | foxlit | https://docs.python.org/2/library/re.html -> "re.match(pattern, string, flags=0) \n If zero or more characters at the beginning of string match..." |
| 23:10.58 | znf | I am reading that |
| 23:11.32 | foxlit | read harder. You want re.search. |
| 23:11.41 | foxlit | "If you want to locate a match anywhere in string, use search() instead (see also search() vs. match())." |
| 23:12.01 | znf | mkay |
| 23:12.49 | foxlit | knows no python. |
| 23:13.01 | znf | I know no regex |
| 23:13.01 | znf | ^^ |
| 23:13.28 | Xuerian | znf: regex101.com |
| 23:13.36 | znf | Xuerian, that's what I used |
| 23:13.37 | znf | :) |
| 23:15.12 | Xuerian | ... Oh, and a completely irrelevant suggestion since he already told you why it wasn't working. Nice. |
| 23:16.03 | znf | I'll never be able to figure out regex properly, but I can dabble in regex101.com and figure out something that *should* work in most cases |
| 23:17.35 | foxlit | should take no longer than 30 minutes. |
| 23:18.34 | foxlit | there are like 5 common syntax elements to learn, and the rest you can look up in the [pcre] manual if you ever need it. |
| 23:21.41 | foxlit | (I'm slightly exaggerating in a possibly counterproductive direction, but the point is that if you seriously wanted to learn regular expressions, you would be able to do it relatively quickly.) |
| 23:22.11 | znf | I know :) |
| 23:52.02 | Thunder_Child | Are you just trying a comparison? |
| 23:53.20 | znf | doesnt' matter, fixed |
| 23:53.49 | Mr_Rabies | hmm, salvage yard isn't showing up as a zone/subzone anymore |
| 23:53.50 | Thunder_Child | I believe it does if you care about overhead. |
| 23:54.02 | Mr_Rabies | i guess today's build changed that? |
| 23:54.17 | znf | Thunder_Child, I don't :D |
| 23:54.23 | Thunder_Child | if foo in bar.lower() should be less resource intensive. |
| 23:55.02 | znf | It's an IRC bot plugin that checks for URLs sent to a channel |
