| 00:00.02 | Semlar | i think people claim a lot of things are impossible that aren't |
| 00:01.17 | mckenziemc | impossible |
| 00:01.28 | Semlar | no it's true |
| 00:07.55 | znf | exactly Semlar |
| 00:15.07 | Semlar | so i have to register at least 6 events to keep track of whether my pet bar should be displayed just so my addon can work with other addons that replace the pet bar |
| 00:15.34 | Semlar | just to figure out if the pet bar is supposed to be visible or not |
| 00:17.11 | mckenziemc | "Travis got impaled by Boulder." |
| 00:17.12 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 00:22.39 | znf | So... |
| 00:22.45 | znf | Romanian KFC are running a promotion |
| 00:23.03 | znf | If a social network is down, and you check their web-page, you "win" a voucher for one of their menus |
| 00:23.12 | znf | Needless to say, the actual form is available on the page |
| 00:23.27 | znf | so opening the console and doing openForm() pops up the "you won" form |
| 00:23.36 | znf | endering the data automatically sends you the voucher for the prize |
| 00:23.55 | znf | $ ls -1 *.png | wc -l |
| 00:23.55 | znf | 111 |
| 00:33.56 | znf | Does anyone know what's gmail's smtp's limit? |
| 00:34.15 | znf | like, how many messages can my smtp send to gmail's smtp before mine gets blocked? |
| 00:38.28 | kullervo | znf: 10N, but same strategy can be applied to 25H - this was a mere proof of concept |
| 00:38.50 | znf | kullervo, isn't 10N just a dps burst? |
| 00:38.56 | znf | the boss has like 4mil HP |
| 00:38.57 | kullervo | heh no |
| 00:39.06 | znf | I do that in less than 1 minute |
| 00:39.09 | kullervo | the boss goes to P3, casts mind control and instantly resets |
| 00:39.44 | znf | So, pop a pet? |
| 00:39.45 | znf | Or? |
| 00:39.59 | kullervo | he'll cast the MC anyway |
| 00:40.40 | kullervo | but he can't cast that while casting something else, although that cast gets removed the instant the boss is hit by any melee hit be it a pet or a player |
| 00:41.01 | znf | I see |
| 00:41.31 | kullervo | so the difficulty as melee class, how to kill the boss while dealing with the 10-20k incoming dps |
| 00:41.50 | kullervo | and not hitting the boss |
| 01:01.04 | *** join/#wowuidev Stanzilla (~Stan@WoWUIDev/WowAce/Stanzilla) |
| 01:01.12 | Stanzilla | wth, when did I leave this channel |
| 01:03.57 | znf | So... I have 779 KFC vouchers |
| 01:05.52 | mckenziemc | reports znf to Interpol |
| 01:43.28 | *** join/#wowuidev fatguylaughing (~fatguylau@ip68-97-174-226.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 01:46.18 | phelps | lol znf |
| 01:46.23 | phelps | you're gonna get so fat! |
| 01:46.33 | phelps | for free! |
| 01:46.36 | znf | Actually I'm looking to see if we can arrange some charity |
| 01:47.03 | phelps | homeless people are gonna get fat! |
| 01:47.38 | znf | they're vouchers for these: http://i.imgur.com/GjKtdn7.png |
| 01:48.18 | phelps | hell yeah |
| 01:48.18 | phelps | value menu stuff |
| 01:49.25 | phelps | znf, you don't think the store will be like, nah |
| 01:49.36 | znf | well, what can they say? |
| 01:49.46 | phelps | is there a limit ? |
| 01:49.56 | phelps | i guess you could hand them the voucher |
| 01:50.03 | phelps | then its legit |
| 01:50.08 | znf | I have no idea. Their rules says that you can only WIN one voucher |
| 01:50.14 | znf | Doesn't say that you can't use more than one. |
| 01:50.33 | phelps | well, just give the voucher to the people, they can redeem them, then its 1 per person |
| 01:50.47 | znf | mhm, I'll see what I can do |
| 01:51.10 | kullervo | znf: http://i.imgur.com/G2e1hvm.gif |
| 01:51.15 | phelps | I need 779 3 pc chicken meals thank you |
| 01:51.40 | znf | too bad I only got 779 |
| 01:51.43 | phelps | and 1 small soda |
| 01:51.51 | znf | their server started returning "no more available vouchers" :( |
| 01:51.57 | phelps | omg |
| 01:52.03 | phelps | you took them all |
| 01:52.08 | znf | Yes... |
| 01:52.20 | znf | Their campaign says that there were 2100 vouchers. Wonder who got the rest... |
| 01:52.38 | phelps | no sites have gone down right ? |
| 01:52.54 | phelps | probably someone else who found it |
| 01:53.08 | znf | Nope |
| 01:54.09 | phelps | is it a common issue in romania |
| 01:54.49 | znf | as far as I know, only me and my silly friends to this kind of thing :D |
| 01:55.00 | znf | 6-7 years ago we did something similar |
| 01:55.31 | znf | One local beer had a competition on their website. You had to go on their website, fill out a form and you had a chance of winning one of their 24-packers. |
| 01:55.36 | kullervo | znf: so this means you'll eat cheap for a couple of years now? |
| 01:55.49 | znf | But, it was a simple 3-question form that had no right/wrong answer. |
| 01:55.56 | znf | It was simply chance-based. |
| 01:56.46 | znf | After me and my friends made a script to resubmit that page over and over... let's say I had so much beer that summer that we really didn't know what to do with it anymore. |
| 01:57.02 | znf | They delivered my prize with a big truck |
| 01:57.55 | znf | Every time we had a handy-man come and do some work for us, "hey, want a 24-pack of beer?" |
| 01:58.58 | znf | I was staying at a friends house back then, we were so sick of beer that we couldn't even finish a 0.5L beer by ourselves anymore |
| 01:59.14 | znf | Also, it was one of those "strong" beers, something like 6-7% alcohol |
| 02:09.54 | *** join/#wowuidev Seerah (~RyanNL@104-180-66-29.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:09.54 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 02:30.23 | kullervo | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFHf9vw08bA |
| 03:07.44 | *** join/#wowuidev fatguylaughing (~fatguylau@ip68-97-174-226.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 03:27.05 | kd3 | the 1-year anniversary of heartbleed's coming up |
| 03:27.51 | Primer | I got my 6 cams working in ffmpeg on http://stream.phelps.io/ |
| 03:27.57 | Primer | but no audio yet |
| 03:28.42 | phelps | I think you can just add another -i for the audio |
| 03:28.53 | Primer | I did that but it chokes |
| 03:28.56 | Primer | still playing with it |
| 03:29.02 | phelps | any error ? |
| 03:29.12 | Primer | yeah, it's rather cryptic |
| 03:31.01 | phelps | it'd be the 7th stream ? |
| 03:31.05 | phelps | 7th -i ? |
| 03:31.37 | phelps | -i [audio source] -map 6:1 |
| 03:32.02 | Primer | I just tried that, but still no sound |
| 03:32.07 | phelps | bummer |
| 03:32.09 | Primer | -f alsa -i pulse |
| 03:32.12 | Primer | but no map |
| 03:32.34 | Primer | only showing 6 inputs |
| 03:32.42 | Primer | but as you can see, the video is fine |
| 03:32.56 | Primer | doh, my wife and kids are in the garage looking for something |
| 03:33.51 | Primer | oh wait |
| 03:33.58 | Primer | there it is! |
| 03:33.59 | phelps | nice! |
| 03:34.17 | phelps | very nice |
| 03:34.21 | Primer | My wife thinks rats have been making their way into the garage |
| 03:34.29 | Primer | so they're looking for rat shit |
| 03:34.32 | phelps | dont fall bro |
| 03:34.43 | phelps | danger danger |
| 03:34.44 | Primer | need to turn the gain up a bit |
| 03:35.13 | phelps | gonna go mouse trap on that rat |
| 03:35.21 | phelps | i loved that movie |
| 03:35.46 | Primer | mic gain turned up bit |
| 03:35.47 | phelps | Christopher Walken is my fav actor tho |
| 03:35.51 | Primer | thing is, the mic is on the window |
| 03:35.58 | Primer | and faces outward |
| 03:36.09 | Primer | so it doesn't really pick up the sounds inside the garage too well |
| 03:36.30 | phelps | how many audio sources is that |
| 03:36.32 | Primer | I guess now I just need to figure out how to make the text overlay |
| 03:36.37 | Primer | 1 mono mic |
| 03:36.46 | Primer | -f alsa -i pulse |
| 03:36.51 | phelps | i think its pretty good then |
| 03:36.52 | Primer | turns out I hadn't saved the file |
| 03:37.09 | phelps | at least for out front |
| 03:38.48 | phelps | oh yeah |
| 03:38.48 | phelps | https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-filters.html#Examples-33 |
| 03:38.51 | phelps | thats simple |
| 03:39.19 | phelps | the timestamp isn't too bad either |
| 03:40.56 | Primer | wish there were verbatim examples, these are out of context |
| 03:41.15 | phelps | you just add it as a new param after -i stuff |
| 03:42.02 | phelps | drawtext="fontfile=/usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSerif.ttf: text='Test Text'" |
| 03:42.16 | Primer | verbatim? |
| 03:42.20 | Primer | because that doesn't work |
| 03:42.36 | Primer | Is there an argument, like another -i? |
| 03:42.38 | phelps | -vf |
| 03:42.39 | phelps | first |
| 03:42.39 | Fisker | Yes Arrowmaster |
| 03:42.44 | phelps | -vf drawtext.... |
| 03:42.53 | phelps | video filter / -vf |
| 03:43.03 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: does it have some app on it to act as a chromecast receiver? |
| 03:43.04 | Primer | -vf/-af/-filter and -filter_complex cannot be used together for the same stream. |
| 03:43.22 | Fisker | Yes |
| 03:43.25 | phelps | whats your file look like |
| 03:43.31 | Fisker | It's Google cast though |
| 03:43.55 | phelps | i think you're using -filter |
| 03:44.02 | phelps | should be able to add the drawtext to that |
| 03:44.22 | Primer | http://paste.linuxmint.com/view/19gc |
| 03:44.42 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: its not on the play store is it, damn was hoping to find something that did what cheapcast did |
| 03:46.44 | Primer | Seems I have to pass it a valid font file |
| 03:47.12 | phelps | it worked ? |
| 03:47.56 | Primer | Cannot find a matching stream for unlabeled input pad 0 on filter Parsed_drawtext_19 |
| 03:48.58 | phelps | ok |
| 03:49.08 | phelps | try this after the last line of the filter |
| 03:49.21 | Primer | I already did |
| 03:49.31 | Primer | guesses what phelps will paste |
| 03:49.43 | phelps | [txt1] drawtext=fontfile=font.ttf:text=hello |
| 03:50.34 | phelps | [txt1] drawtext=fontfile=font.ttf:text=hello |
| 03:50.37 | phelps | err |
| 03:50.41 | phelps | https://gist.github.com/benphelps/d150d71866a951d6c16f |
| 03:50.42 | phelps | like that |
| 03:51.09 | phelps | that works |
| 03:51.10 | Primer | check it out |
| 03:51.14 | phelps | neato |
| 03:51.15 | Primer | it works! |
| 03:51.25 | Primer | it's scrolling |
| 03:51.36 | phelps | TO THE MOON |
| 03:52.16 | phelps | [txt1] drawtext=fontfile=font.ttf:text=hello:x=100:y=100 |
| 03:52.35 | phelps | what format are you using that works |
| 03:52.37 | Primer | Now I need shadowed text |
| 03:52.50 | Primer | http://paste.linuxmint.com/view/51pd |
| 03:53.20 | phelps | add |
| 03:53.58 | Primer | yeah, this is so much simpler |
| 03:54.00 | phelps | shadowcolor:#00ff00 |
| 03:54.16 | phelps | no |
| 03:54.20 | phelps | :shadowcolor=#00ff00 |
| 03:54.31 | Primer | I'd like to set the color too |
| 03:54.39 | phelps | lime green |
| 03:54.44 | phelps | only logical choice |
| 03:55.25 | phelps | jesus man, I'm going to end up getting cameras now |
| 03:55.27 | *** part/#wowuidev Seerah (~RyanNL@104-180-66-29.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:55.55 | phelps | oh whoops |
| 03:55.59 | phelps | so all of it |
| 03:56.15 | phelps | yeah |
| 03:56.16 | phelps | pro |
| 03:56.25 | phelps | that looks nice |
| 03:56.34 | Primer | shadowx and y 2 now |
| 03:56.39 | Primer | looks nicer |
| 03:56.42 | phelps | yeah |
| 03:57.16 | phelps | do you get an discount on your home insurance with something like that |
| 03:57.39 | phelps | s/t an/t any/ |
| 03:57.48 | Fisker | stuff like cheapcast can't function anymore Arrowmaster |
| 03:58.47 | Fisker | and it is on the google store if they're selling it in your country |
| 03:59.42 | phelps | Primer, for the timecode, just replace text='whatever' with timecode |
| 03:59.53 | phelps | :timecode:x=:y= |
| 04:00.14 | phelps | i think the default time format is pretty ugly tho |
| 04:00.38 | Primer | oops |
| 04:00.44 | phelps | lol |
| 04:00.50 | phelps | you missed |
| 04:03.53 | Primer | Can you adjust it back to 960x480? |
| 04:04.14 | Primer | My next step after this will be to setup my own nginx |
| 04:04.43 | Primer | hrmm, I wonder if I should keep the timestamp off-camera... |
| 04:07.16 | Primer | doh, it seg'd with timecode |
| 04:07.34 | phelps | ow |
| 04:07.44 | Primer | timecode expects an argument |
| 04:07.46 | Primer | it seems |
| 04:08.57 | phelps | timecode='now' |
| 04:08.58 | phelps | ? |
| 04:09.04 | phelps | i don't think thats right |
| 04:10.05 | phelps | timecode='09\:57\:00\:00' |
| 04:10.17 | phelps | idk why 09 and 57 but all these examples use it |
| 04:10.18 | phelps | haha |
| 04:11.35 | *** join/#wowuidev Kodiack (~Colto_000@121-73-86-207.cable.telstraclear.net) |
| 04:11.36 | Primer | thing is, this is already inside of double quotes, inside of single quotes |
| 04:11.40 | Primer | so I need a verbatim example |
| 04:11.43 | Primer | got a URL handy? |
| 04:13.08 | phelps | i think in this case you just remove the '' |
| 04:13.15 | Primer | yeah, didn't work |
| 04:13.17 | Primer | already tried |
| 04:14.07 | Primer | see, I think this is just time in the video |
| 04:14.16 | Primer | as in, video starts at 00:00:00 |
| 04:14.25 | Primer | this is not time STAMP |
| 04:15.02 | kd3 | drawtext='fontfile=FreeSans.ttf:text=%{localtime\:%a %b %d %Y}' |
| 04:15.05 | kd3 | ? |
| 04:15.28 | phelps | or try this |
| 04:15.31 | phelps | that might work |
| 04:16.07 | phelps | text=\%T |
| 04:16.56 | phelps | %{} should work |
| 04:17.45 | Primer | none work |
| 04:19.16 | phelps | oh |
| 04:19.17 | phelps | ok |
| 04:19.18 | Primer | [Parsed_drawtext_25 @ 0x22ec380] Stray % near '%m-%%d-%%Y - Time: %%H:%%M:%%S %Z' |
| 04:19.20 | phelps | expansion |
| 04:19.28 | Primer | I tried %%m |
| 04:19.29 | Primer | %m |
| 04:19.30 | phelps | expansion=strftime |
| 04:19.31 | Primer | \%m |
| 04:19.39 | phelps | then you can pass it strftime strings |
| 04:19.59 | phelps | expansion=strftime:text=%T |
| 04:20.14 | Primer | boom |
| 04:20.24 | phelps | is that my last line ? |
| 04:20.40 | phelps | because I'm probably going to do all this too |
| 04:20.40 | phelps | ha |
| 04:20.41 | Primer | showing UTC, since that's the setting on the machine |
| 04:20.43 | Primer | sec |
| 04:21.34 | Primer | [txt7] drawtext='fontsize=20:fontfile=${FONT}:text=Date\: %m-%d-%Y - Time\: %H\:%M\:%S %Z:expansion=strftime:x=3:y=460: |
| 04:21.48 | phelps | cool |
| 04:21.56 | Primer | [Parsed_drawtext_25 @ 0x1aa3620] expansion=strftime is deprecated. |
| 04:21.58 | Primer | yet, it works |
| 04:22.14 | phelps | haha, i seen that in the docs |
| 04:22.17 | Primer | so there it is, that's the finished product |
| 04:22.17 | phelps | worth a shot |
| 04:22.23 | Primer | minus the broken camera |
| 04:22.32 | Primer | which I'll hopefully replace some time this week |
| 04:22.41 | phelps | happy with the new file ? |
| 04:22.46 | Primer | ok, time to watch walking dead with the kids! |
| 04:22.51 | Primer | yeah, this is looking pretty sweet |
| 04:22.57 | Primer | next step is my own nginx! |
| 04:23.05 | Primer | phelps: thanks for all the help |
| 04:23.09 | phelps | my guide is copy/paste |
| 04:23.14 | phelps | so it should be simple |
| 04:25.14 | phelps | fixed the size of the player |
| 04:28.25 | Primer | I'll be back in about an hour to play with this some more |
| 04:37.25 | *** join/#wowuidev shoman94 (shoman94@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-hwzqezfircswoyyo) |
| 04:46.03 | *** join/#wowuidev ShadniX (dagger@p5481DA77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 05:06.22 | *** join/#wowuidev NuSuey (uid3556@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wlagoakidahkwebs) |
| 05:10.57 | *** join/#wowuidev pompy (~Mike@c-73-33-19-204.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 05:13.48 | *** join/#wowuidev Diao (~vschiu@50.46.152.54) |
| 05:16.51 | Semlar | znf: are people supposed to be knocked onto the same side of the room that the boss is on |
| 05:17.19 | Semlar | i'm pretty tired of the siegemaker coming out, targeting someone on the balcony and then just breaking |
| 05:18.49 | *** join/#wowuidev startxkdm (~startxkdm@11.sub-70-197-194.myvzw.com) |
| 05:21.25 | *** join/#wowuidev A-KO^^ (as@2601:a:f00:750:9422:a70c:e694:f6d8) |
| 05:28.52 | *** join/#wowuidev breser (breser@fornix.brain.org) |
| 05:33.01 | *** join/#wowuidev DefectiveUser (~smuxi@76.126.213.69) |
| 05:33.29 | *** join/#wowuidev DefectiveUser_ (~smuxi@76.126.213.69) |
| 05:34.51 | Simca_ | Semlar: the siegemaker targets the closest player - when is that ever going to be somebody on the balcony? |
| 05:35.01 | Semlar | happened 3 times |
| 05:35.18 | Semlar | someone was knocked over the siegemaker when it came out, the siegemaker then immediately breaks |
| 05:35.25 | Simca_ | and the balcony side you get on is completely controlled by you |
| 05:35.38 | Semlar | instead of fixating a player it starts targeting a random player |
| 05:35.52 | Semlar | for maybe 10 seconds |
| 05:35.58 | Semlar | then it finally decides to fixate someone |
| 05:36.48 | Semlar | what i want to know is there a specific reason to knock them over the side the siegemaker is coming out of |
| 05:37.02 | Semlar | because it is buggy as hell |
| 05:37.42 | Simca_ | yes, both sides have to be cleared every time unless you want your healers to cry. you can survive without it for one, maybe two knockback cycles tops, but it isn't great |
| 05:38.48 | Simca_ | your melee team is probably split half and half so that each balcony is cleared every time |
| 05:39.52 | Semlar | you only send melee up? |
| 05:40.16 | Simca_ | it's probably an incredible dps loss to send up ranged |
| 05:40.34 | Simca_ | not to mention they can be targeted for abilities when running into melee |
| 05:41.09 | Semlar | okay well we usually send a warrior and a balance druid up |
| 05:41.14 | Simca_ | haha i wonder if that's why I never saw this bug |
| 05:41.27 | Simca_ | I wonder if the siegemaker can't default target melee |
| 05:41.41 | Semlar | i don't know, as far as i can tell it targets the nearest player |
| 05:41.54 | Simca_ | yeah, the fixates definitely do |
| 05:42.08 | Simca_ | I know rogue tanking is a viable strategy |
| 05:42.23 | Semlar | but it fails to fixate the person being knocked up to the balcony above it and then goes fucking nuts |
| 05:42.39 | Semlar | it's happened enough times that i feel like something is wrong |
| 05:43.14 | Simca_ | it has never happened to me, but I only have like 15 Blackhand attempts |
| 05:43.25 | Semlar | yeah well we're terrible |
| 05:43.30 | Semlar | so we have quite a lot more than 15 |
| 05:44.11 | Simca_ | I would definitely look at damage taken because I would say that the balconies are the hardest part of the fight to do right (and get right every time) |
| 05:44.25 | Simca_ | I'm pretty confident we will kill him when we get a phase 3 attempt with every person alive |
| 05:44.42 | Semlar | heh, getting to phase 3 with everyone alive |
| 05:44.50 | Semlar | that's a good joke |
| 05:45.13 | Simca_ | we almost had it one attempt and 3 people died to the low damage from the floor explosion phase transition |
| 05:45.36 | Simca_ | it only hits for like 20k but it was enough lol |
| 05:45.53 | Semlar | well if you skip sending people up to push him to 30% you have guy raining bombs down on you |
| 05:46.14 | Semlar | what do you do |
| 05:46.21 | Semlar | our healers couldn't keep up |
| 05:47.26 | Simca_ | we had like 12-14 people, 4 melee. we sent 2x melee to each balcony every knockback |
| 05:47.56 | Semlar | i was dead for the last minute and a half of one of our best attempts because someone was following me with the god damn bomb |
| 05:48.10 | Semlar | so they killed both of us |
| 05:48.31 | Simca_ | damage from the bomb ability stayed low unless we missed a shot due to tanks pulling the boss too far to one edge of the room (he needs to be within the middle 50% of the room or you'll start missing the balcony on the opposite side) |
| 05:49.38 | Semlar | my version of bigwigs also doesn't have a range radar for the slag bomb in phase 3 |
| 05:50.02 | Semlar | i don't know if they fixed that in an update because i never update anything |
| 05:50.26 | Semlar | i know it puts a giant circle around you, but there should still be a radar |
| 05:50.33 | nebula169 | why do you need proximity for it, look at the fucking ground |
| 05:50.59 | Semlar | same reason you have it for every other ability |
| 05:51.12 | Simca_ | your balcony team may not know how the knockback works, because it is confusing |
| 05:51.26 | Simca_ | and not remotely intuitive |
| 05:52.04 | Semlar | both the slag bomb and the impale during that phase should have range radars |
| 05:52.12 | Semlar | i don't know if the impale does or now |
| 05:52.14 | Semlar | not |
| 05:52.48 | nebula169 | no, because thats silly |
| 05:53.06 | Semlar | what do you suppose the purpose of a boss mod is |
| 05:53.38 | Semlar | it's a crutch for people who don't know all of the fight mechanics |
| 05:54.01 | Semlar | the impale is an aoe |
| 05:54.09 | Simca_ | it should at least say "LOOK AT THE GROUND OMG" then |
| 05:54.13 | Simca_ | lolol |
| 05:54.28 | Semlar | the slag bombs, while they have a visual indicator, don't necessarily make it obvious that they will kill everyone who overlaps their range |
| 05:54.46 | nebula169 | impale is not an aoe, it's a line and proximity wouldn't help because they could be in line with you at any range and be hit |
| 05:54.52 | Semlar | impale IS an aoe |
| 05:55.04 | Semlar | i don't know how big it is |
| 05:55.20 | Semlar | but if you have people standing within i don't know 5 yards, not in a line, it will hit both of them |
| 05:55.37 | Simca_ | it doesn't have an aoe component - that's probably just lag |
| 05:55.43 | nebula169 | indeed |
| 05:55.44 | Semlar | no, it definitely has an ape |
| 05:55.46 | Semlar | aoe |
| 05:56.08 | nebula169 | two people standing on top of each other, both don't get two stacks |
| 05:56.09 | Semlar | i had 2 people who were clearly not on top of each other die to the same impales |
| 05:56.50 | Simca_ | you're sure they weren't both targets? |
| 05:57.02 | Semlar | they were, they got hit by both |
| 05:57.25 | Semlar | if there were no aoe component it wouldn't matter if they were on top of each other |
| 05:57.32 | Semlar | both would hit one and not the other |
| 05:58.14 | Semlar | so you wouldn't have TWO PEOPLE get hit by 2 impales even if they were on top of each other |
| 05:59.23 | Simca_ | "While on the Iron Crucible Blackhand is empowered and Impaling Throw impacts all targets in a line." |
| 05:59.38 | Semlar | oh good |
| 05:59.41 | Neffi | goto sleep Semlar |
| 05:59.44 | Semlar | no |
| 05:59.48 | Simca_ | it has splash in phase 3 and never stops at the first person i guess |
| 05:59.52 | Neffi | :( |
| 06:03.34 | Semlar | god i miss VEM |
| 06:07.56 | Semlar | nebula169: the fact that there's no radar for the bomb makes it seem like it's not necessarily something you need to spread out for |
| 06:09.21 | nebula169 | you literally have nothing else to do but run away and spread when you get the bombs, showing a proximity for it is pointless |
| 06:09.33 | Semlar | it really isn't pointless |
| 06:09.49 | Semlar | you show a radar for every other god damn ability and suddenly you have one without an indicator that shouldn't stand next to other people |
| 06:13.55 | Semlar | it's inconsistent and confusing to anyone who doesn't already know what to do |
| 06:16.46 | nebula169 | point is not to tell you what to do, it's to give you info to make decisions. the info is already there for slag bombs |
| 06:18.53 | Semlar | the info is not there, there's a ring around your character which is the same indicator that you'd have if people had to stack up next to you |
| 06:19.41 | Semlar | it would take 2 seconds to add the ability to the proximity radar, what would it hurt |
| 06:23.43 | *** join/#wowuidev VIad (~Vlad@88.95.100.238) |
| 06:29.42 | Semlar | alright, good talk |
| 06:29.56 | nebula169 | spotty responses are because i'm raiding |
| 06:56.15 | *** join/#wowuidev Lynxium (Lynxium@bzq-109-66-26-239.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 07:14.43 | *** join/#wowuidev Kowh (~bob913@135-23-187-234.cpe.pppoe.ca) |
| 07:40.51 | *** join/#wowuidev Pursche01 (uid28470@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nzbtdvkpnyepmfxl) |
| 08:09.54 | *** join/#wowuidev Kowh (~bob913@135-23-187-234.cpe.pppoe.ca) |
| 08:58.57 | *** join/#wowuidev startxkdm (~startxkdm@11.sub-70-197-194.myvzw.com) |
| 09:03.30 | *** join/#wowuidev Kodiack (~Colto_000@121-73-86-207.cable.telstraclear.net) |
| 10:13.57 | *** join/#wowuidev stolenlegacy (~stolenleg@unaffiliated/stolenlegacy) |
| 10:17.13 | *** join/#wowuidev ski1 (ski@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-gbwdcxphashuokdv) |
| 10:38.30 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 10:51.48 | *** join/#wowuidev jitta (~jitta@95.90.242.11) |
| 11:34.56 | Funkeh` | Semlar, no, there's nothing wrong with adding a proximity for it, I've added it in the alpha. If you find you really need something that's a simple addition, BW is open, feel free to commit |
| 11:35.45 | Funkeh` | the point that neb was trying to make is it's pretty redundant, as the ability animation is unique in the fact it draws the exact area around you, so pretty much everyone will stare at the render, not UI elements |
| 11:36.24 | Funkeh` | there's no harm in having it, it's just unlikely to be looked at |
| 12:22.54 | nevcairiel | i just got a Heroes beta key from paypal, weird o.o |
| 12:25.37 | Fisker | lol |
| 12:25.54 | *** join/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (~Lopeppepp@141.222.23.76) |
| 12:25.54 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 12:28.44 | nevcairiel | blizzard sure is throwing those around lately |
| 12:29.13 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:38.27 | Lopeppeppy | Bonjour delicious mortals. I will not eat you unless you are made of Jello. |
| 12:38.34 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Fiskerdin. |
| 12:40.39 | Fisker | I'm not a delicious mortal? :( |
| 12:41.32 | Lopeppeppy | Are you mortal? That's the first question. |
| 12:43.03 | Fisker | I haven't confirmed it yet |
| 12:56.44 | Lopeppeppy | I cannot confirm or deny these accusations, your honor. |
| 12:56.45 | mckenziemc | i can help with that |
| 12:59.18 | Torhal | The crown will plainly show. The prisoner who now stands before you. Was caught red-handed showing feelings. Showing feelings of an almost human nature. This will not do. |
| 13:00.25 | mckenziemc | do i need to stab you too, Torhal |
| 13:01.39 | Torhal | defenestrates mckenziemc. |
| 13:17.02 | *** join/#wowuidev ikcerog (~ikcerog@12.165.188.172) |
| 13:18.57 | karl_w_w | is there a patch history for steam somewhere? |
| 13:26.22 | znf | Semlar, in P2 you mean? |
| 13:26.54 | *** join/#wowuidev Ressy (~Ressy@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Ressy) |
| 13:56.40 | Semlar | znf: yeah, we've had the siegemaker target the people on the balcony multiple times instead of the closest person to it on the ground which is generally a wipe |
| 13:57.01 | znf | they can do that? O.o |
| 13:57.11 | Semlar | it's got to be a bug |
| 13:58.05 | Semlar | it doesn't fixate them, but if they get knocked over the siegemaker while it's coming out and i guess are somehow closer to it than the person it's supposed to be on |
| 13:58.13 | Semlar | it targets them and doesn't fixate anybody |
| 13:58.21 | Semlar | it just starts targeting random people at that point |
| 13:58.29 | znf | well, I can't say for sure, I don't pay attention to that group that goes up, usually, but if I recall correctly, yeah, it needs to be on the same side of the room |
| 13:58.52 | znf | I hear my raid leader go all "we start from the left side" |
| 13:58.53 | znf | or whatever |
| 13:59.26 | Semlar | well we normally knock them up to the opposite side of the room from the boss, and i don't know if there's a reason for that |
| 13:59.44 | Semlar | i've never been up there |
| 13:59.57 | znf | can't be of much help there |
| 14:00.05 | znf | unless you watch our kill video and notice what we do |
| 14:03.01 | phelps | so |
| 14:03.03 | Lopeppeppy | Evil is always fun. Until you get arrested. Then it's "poor judgment" or something. |
| 14:03.09 | phelps | this is how boring I am, http://weather.phelps.io/jpg/ |
| 14:05.14 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:10.49 | *** join/#wowuidev NuSuey (uid3556@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bdezbddfnnynzsfc) |
| 14:19.22 | mckenziemc | your favorite part of Neffi? |
| 14:20.08 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:20.51 | znf | SO MANY ARROWS ON YOUR SCREEN |
| 14:21.09 | znf | that shit is hilarious |
| 14:21.12 | znf | didn't know it could bug like that |
| 14:21.24 | Semlar | i can only assume someone on the balcony was closer than me |
| 14:21.37 | Semlar | which shouldn't even ever be a target for the stupid siegemaker |
| 14:23.58 | Semlar | i don't know though, i'm looking at the replay https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4rJnRfNLtW8MKCHp#fight=25&view=replay around 2:40 and i don't see how |
| 14:26.00 | Semlar | the only possible target was the tank that got knocked up there |
| 14:27.25 | *** part/#wowuidev mckenziemc (~Mark@104-51-145-162.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 14:32.15 | *** join/#wowuidev fatguylaughing (~fatguylau@worx01.meridian-ds.com) |
| 14:34.21 | VIad | Semlar: why does your AVR work while DBM one fails miserably if camera isnt looking straight down from above? :P |
| 14:34.42 | Semlar | what avr |
| 14:34.50 | Semlar | my arrows? |
| 14:35.18 | VIad | blizz broke AVR right |
| 14:35.23 | VIad | then it's back now? :p |
| 14:35.26 | *** join/#wowuidev [TOM_RUS] (something@178.35.150.18) |
| 14:35.50 | znf | that's not avr |
| 14:35.53 | znf | those are nameplates :P |
| 14:36.00 | VIad | aha |
| 14:36.02 | znf | haven't you heard? Semlar is the plate master! |
| 14:36.12 | VIad | so it works only if user is close enough |
| 14:36.13 | VIad | got it |
| 14:36.16 | VIad | target* |
| 14:36.40 | Semlar | if you're talking about my arrows it just literally draws a line of arrows at a nameplate |
| 14:37.41 | VIad | deadly boss mods can draw on a unit in the world, like how avr did it, but they have a fixed constant as the camera angle |
| 14:37.47 | VIad | so it doesn't work that well :p |
| 14:38.08 | Semlar | uhh i haven't used dbm in a while, does it actually do that |
| 14:38.26 | VIad | it tries yes |
| 14:42.07 | Semlar | have another one znf http://youtu.be/0Wr61Bh4bu0 |
| 14:43.52 | znf | looks like fun |
| 14:44.05 | Semlar | oh yeah, loads of fun |
| 14:44.21 | Semlar | let's just have the siegemaker target a random person |
| 14:49.40 | Semlar | oops here's yet another instance seemingly caused by the tank dropping down nearby while the siegemaker is coming out |
| 14:49.43 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:50.13 | Semlar | it doesn't actually FIXATE THEM, it just follows them |
| 14:50.37 | znf | it's weird, never seen that |
| 14:50.50 | Semlar | then it decides to fixate the other tank |
| 14:52.09 | Semlar | i mean, it's clearly something we're doing wrong but i don't think it should be happening either way |
| 14:52.56 | znf | yes |
| 14:54.01 | *** join/#wowuidev Mihau (~Mihau@76.164.170.2) |
| 14:57.43 | VIad | Semlar: so worldoflogs.com is dead and warcraftlogs.com is the better one? |
| 14:58.06 | Semlar | i don't know |
| 14:58.13 | VIad | http://worldoflogs.com/ was the "original" |
| 14:58.16 | VIad | but gotten old by now |
| 15:03.02 | Semlar | god i wish i could see who the siegemaker is trying to target every time |
| 15:03.07 | znf | WoL is dead |
| 15:03.12 | znf | WCL is the king now |
| 15:03.21 | VIad | why did wol let itself die is the question? |
| 15:03.31 | znf | well, it's not "dead" |
| 15:03.33 | znf | people are just not using it |
| 15:03.46 | VIad | because wcl has more features |
| 15:03.47 | znf | WoL hasn't done shit to their website in ages, were slow to respond etc. |
| 15:03.54 | Semlar | no, because wcl is shinier |
| 15:03.58 | znf | so WCL guy was, "yeah, I can do this better" |
| 15:04.06 | znf | the WCL guy always improves, just check his twitter |
| 15:04.09 | Semlar | and people like shiny |
| 15:04.10 | znf | while WoL is... meh |
| 15:04.28 | phelps | WCL live playback of fights is pretty neat |
| 15:04.45 | znf | WCL is neat as whole |
| 15:04.50 | znf | hell, even AMR is better than WoL now |
| 15:04.55 | znf | they have cool graphics! |
| 15:05.09 | phelps | your own personal infographic |
| 15:05.17 | fewyn | i love warcraft logs, amr logs is pretty cool tho |
| 15:06.04 | znf | AMR is more like, "how well did we do?" |
| 15:06.09 | znf | WCL is more like "where did we fuck up?" |
| 15:06.10 | znf | :D |
| 15:06.16 | Semlar | someone should tell the WCL guy to FUCKING TITLE HIS PAGES so trying to navigate my history doesn't look like this http://i.imgur.com/ltt6yAA.gif |
| 15:06.18 | fewyn | yeah that's about right |
| 15:06.24 | VIad | I also like wcl incorporated the "replay" feature ( source? http://tixu.scribe.free.fr/indexen.php ) |
| 15:07.25 | znf | Semlar, https://twitter.com/KihraOfTemerity |
| 15:07.46 | Semlar | it's literally not possible to find a specific page on that site from your history |
| 15:07.50 | VIad | is ff mmo even alive? |
| 15:08.02 | fewyn | which one? |
| 15:08.03 | fewyn | ffxi? |
| 15:08.14 | VIad | hmm, dunno, I bought "the latest" a while ago |
| 15:08.21 | VIad | within a year |
| 15:08.21 | fewyn | ffxiv is doing actually really good |
| 15:08.32 | fewyn | they have an expansion coming out soon |
| 15:08.49 | fewyn | it's a great game too, i just don't have the time for more than one MMO |
| 15:08.52 | VIad | got a bit lost because had no specific quest to say "go here to level" so just went all over, lots of high level mobs, got lost, lost interest :P |
| 15:09.00 | *** join/#wowuidev g0urra (~g0urra@unaffiliated/gourra) |
| 15:09.04 | fewyn | yeah the leveling experience is a bit different |
| 15:09.11 | fewyn | you level by doing fates/dungeons/etc |
| 15:09.18 | fewyn | and do your story quest inbetween |
| 15:09.35 | VIad | would appreciate a little hand holding the first levels |
| 15:09.36 | fewyn | a lot less hand holding than wow |
| 15:09.55 | fewyn | the first few zones around the capitals are good to level 15 or so |
| 15:09.58 | VIad | not talking about the first 10 that were in their own environment, totally different than the zone questing apparently |
| 15:10.15 | VIad | (otherwise I wouldn't have gotten lost I guess) |
| 15:10.32 | fewyn | then each connected zone is for the next 5-10 levels (and then the next... and the next) |
| 15:10.41 | VIad | should try it again soon I guess |
| 15:11.32 | fewyn | i maxed all the jobs before i last left ffxiv http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/1678867/ |
| 15:12.16 | fewyn | i love that about ffxiv is that you can do everything on one character if you put in the effort |
| 15:14.05 | g0urra | ^^^^ |
| 15:15.09 | g0urra | it's good for those who have altitis |
| 15:16.04 | Mihau | I still made separate characters. >_> <_< |
| 15:16.06 | fewyn | which if you look up in the dictionary you should see my face as an example |
| 15:21.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Lynxium (~Lonny@bzq-109-66-26-239.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 15:22.21 | VIad | gilgamesh :p |
| 15:22.36 | VIad | ("girugamesh") |
| 15:22.50 | VIad | meme, look it up |
| 15:24.13 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: I swapped sides. I'm getting a Nikon. |
| 15:32.03 | VIad | fewyn: help! |
| 15:32.05 | VIad | I can't login |
| 15:32.11 | VIad | I'm lost in horrible login portal land |
| 15:32.24 | fewyn | square is horrible at interfaces |
| 15:32.25 | fewyn | i'm sorry |
| 15:32.33 | VIad | I can login at https://secure.square-enix.com/account/ |
| 15:33.08 | VIad | but it wont work at https://membership.square-enix.com/ ? |
| 15:34.55 | g0urra | they're different |
| 15:35.18 | VIad | when I recover account |
| 15:35.22 | VIad | it took me to the first url |
| 15:35.26 | VIad | so I reset it and done |
| 15:35.38 | VIad | but still cant login at the other url (last one) |
| 15:36.05 | VIad | makes no sense! |
| 15:36.52 | g0urra | wait, are you trying to recover the account you use to log in to ffxiv? |
| 15:37.01 | VIad | I just recovered because forgot password ofc |
| 15:37.06 | VIad | then I try to login on the service :P |
| 15:37.22 | g0urra | your game account has nothing to do with the second url |
| 15:37.24 | VIad | I managed to finally login at http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/ |
| 15:37.34 | VIad | no but I assume unified login portal |
| 15:37.37 | VIad | for all square products |
| 15:37.51 | g0urra | yes, which the first one is.. |
| 15:38.35 | znf | you confused the shit out of me |
| 15:38.38 | VIad | but |
| 15:38.39 | znf | and I don't even have an account! |
| 15:38.55 | VIad | what is so different between secure.square-enix.com and membership.square-enix.com |
| 15:39.00 | VIad | only subdomain :p |
| 15:39.34 | g0urra | who knows |
| 15:40.49 | VIad | confusing |
| 15:41.19 | znf | Yes |
| 15:41.58 | fewyn | please understand |
| 15:42.27 | Mihau | Membership is like Nintendo's weird Club Nintendo thing where you register products. |
| 15:42.30 | VIad | I still can't login on https://membership.square-enix.com/ because it says my input is wrong but it's the same I use for the other page, and the recovery password thing takes me also to the other page (and I can login to that :P) |
| 15:42.52 | Mihau | Secure is for game accounts. |
| 15:43.09 | znf | Why are there different things? |
| 15:43.17 | znf | Why would you want to log on to your "other" account? |
| 15:43.22 | znf | Unify the game shit |
| 15:43.23 | znf | The fuck. |
| 15:43.25 | znf | It's 2015. |
| 15:43.31 | VIad | I managed to login with help of steam login portal - and now I see my final fantasy game account on the registered products list :P |
| 15:43.45 | Mihau | You don't. Membership dealy is dumb and completely optional. |
| 15:43.46 | VIad | nvm, I own it but apparently I can buy it again |
| 15:44.07 | Mihau | VIad: https://secure.square-enix.com/account/app/svc/Login?cont=account |
| 15:44.17 | VIad | I can login there Mihau |
| 15:44.19 | VIad | no problem |
| 15:44.34 | Mihau | Okay, that is all you need then. |
| 15:44.44 | *** join/#wowuidev silv3rwind (uid14256@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ruiqbvojfhwlrfni) |
| 15:44.50 | Mihau | If you want to use the Membership site you have to make a different account. |
| 15:44.55 | VIad | yes |
| 15:45.05 | VIad | http://na.square-enix.com/ |
| 15:45.07 | VIad | basically |
| 15:45.12 | VIad | but fun thing is |
| 15:45.15 | Mihau | It will also sign you up for a million newsletters that are impossible to unsubscribe from. |
| 15:45.17 | VIad | if I login to it using my steam login |
| 15:45.20 | Arrowmaster | ah im 100 points away from club nintendo platinum status, but at least i have enough points for the majora mask bag |
| 15:45.23 | VIad | I see my game registered :D |
| 15:45.29 | VIad | when I click it it says I can buy it ;D |
| 15:47.47 | VIad | anyway got it |
| 15:47.52 | g0urra | tried logging in with your email? |
| 15:47.53 | VIad | dont have to be so confusing |
| 15:47.58 | VIad | believe me tried all |
| 15:48.07 | VIad | I know I have an ID (username) and e-mail |
| 15:48.17 | VIad | only way for me to login is via my steam linked account |
| 15:48.19 | VIad | thank god :P |
| 15:48.22 | VIad | (to the membership site) |
| 15:48.51 | g0urra | that's funny, I tried my square enix ID and it worked |
| 15:48.59 | VIad | won't work with mine |
| 15:49.34 | VIad | luckily I can use steam too |
| 15:50.27 | VIad | btw I can recommend https://lastpass.com/ |
| 15:50.33 | VIad | works nice once stuff are organized :P |
| 15:51.13 | *** join/#wowuidev Semlar (~chatzilla@50-89-204-151.res.bhn.net) |
| 15:57.01 | VIad | btw chrome "new tab" page is actually just opening https://www.google.com/_/chrome/newtab |
| 15:57.36 | VIad | meaning I just tampermonkeyd that shit and injected my own http://fullcalendar.io and used the json/xml feeds from calendar to show my calendar events on the new tab page :D |
| 15:57.36 | znf | Ha. |
| 15:57.46 | g0urra | heh, just bought 8 stacks of animal skins since people put it up at vendor price |
| 15:57.48 | g0urra | their loss |
| 15:58.02 | VIad | point is? each new tab always reminds me of important things I should do |
| 15:59.26 | znf | my new tab would always be empty |
| 15:59.26 | znf | ! |
| 15:59.51 | VIad | could adblock it to make it empty |
| 16:02.22 | VIad | btw one thing lame was google has no date/time on their feed for calendar entries :/ |
| 16:02.31 | VIad | had to parse the string in the description "When: " |
| 16:02.49 | znf | that doesn't sound right |
| 16:02.52 | VIad | I know right |
| 16:04.05 | VIad | try this |
| 16:04.05 | VIad | https://www.google.com/calendar/feeds/%23contacts%40group.v.calendar.google.com/private/basic?max-results=9999&singleevents=true&start-min=2015-01-01&start-max=2015-12-31 |
| 16:04.41 | g0urra | Authorization required |
| 16:04.42 | g0urra | Error 401 |
| 16:04.47 | VIad | login to your google account |
| 16:04.53 | VIad | and add contact birthdays external calendar |
| 16:05.01 | VIad | assumed you had it :p |
| 16:05.09 | VIad | https://www.google.com/calendar/render?pli=1#settings-calendars_9 |
| 16:05.15 | znf | I am logged on |
| 16:05.15 | znf | I still don't see that |
| 16:05.35 | VIad | hmm |
| 16:05.59 | VIad | maybe you need g+ |
| 16:06.30 | VIad | what about this znf https://www.google.com/calendar/htmlembed?src=%23contacts%40group.v.calendar.google.com&ctz=Europe/Oslo |
| 16:06.43 | znf | Yes |
| 16:06.52 | VIad | use "subscribe" link on the bottom |
| 16:06.56 | VIad | maybe you need to be :p |
| 16:07.43 | VIad | I just use the same calendar and another uri to access the data as xml - json don't work for public calendars :/ |
| 16:07.52 | VIad | try this now https://www.google.com/calendar/feeds/%23contacts%40group.v.calendar.google.com/private/basic?max-results=9999&singleevents=true&start-min=2015-01-01&start-max=2015-06-31 |
| 16:08.03 | znf | yeah, works now |
| 16:08.52 | VIad | date and time is not mentioned as attribute anywhere |
| 16:08.59 | VIad | just in the summary/content part that is html :/ |
| 16:12.22 | VIad | mind blown znf? |
| 16:12.38 | znf | I guess |
| 16:12.44 | VIad | since the initial sceptizism then silence |
| 16:13.27 | znf | that wasn't skepticisim |
| 16:13.45 | znf | I'm not going to correct that typo because I have no idea how to type that properly |
| 16:13.49 | VIad | :D |
| 16:13.51 | VIad | me neither |
| 16:13.57 | VIad | I think it's scepticism |
| 16:14.18 | VIad | though sometimes the z makes a quiet approach |
| 16:14.19 | znf | I was just saying that it's not "right" as in "dumb as fuck" |
| 16:14.26 | VIad | :p |
| 16:14.41 | VIad | weird though that google calendar has no json support for all the calendars |
| 16:14.48 | VIad | like your private once can be fetched with json and jsonp |
| 16:14.58 | VIad | BUT they still have no date and time attribute |
| 16:15.01 | VIad | its just the xml as json |
| 16:15.04 | VIad | so just woot |
| 16:15.26 | VIad | I realize they got another api portal, like where 3rd party can read your private data and such, it probably has this data |
| 16:15.40 | VIad | but this is the private feed you can subscribe to in your browser (requires your session cookie to work) |
| 16:15.56 | VIad | for a userscript to run in browser, ideal solution |
| 16:16.07 | VIad | just weird time and date is only available in the html content |
| 16:29.36 | VIad | I talk a lot |
| 16:34.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Xinhuan (~xinhuan@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/xinhuan) |
| 16:36.14 | *** join/#wowuidev kaeru (kaeru@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-yyejgeipfupmpnbb) |
| 16:40.46 | *** join/#wowuidev Unkle (~mconvers@64.89.225.121) |
| 16:52.53 | *** join/#wowuidev Yoshimo (~anything@unaffiliated/yoshimo) |
| 17:04.49 | Unkle | how you doing Lopeppeppy? |
| 17:17.37 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Unkle. I can eat shrimp fried rice now, yay me! |
| 17:18.16 | Unkle | Yay! |
| 17:18.33 | Lopeppeppy | Not bad for less than a week. The retainer, much as I despise it, helps a lot. |
| 17:19.26 | Unkle | Glad to hear that you are healing well. |
| 17:20.13 | Lopeppeppy | Peppy strong. Pull plow when ox dies. |
| 17:20.27 | Shirik | can you not take out the retainer? |
| 17:21.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Ressy (~Ressy@bas2-toronto61-2925079675.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 17:21.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Ressy (~Ressy@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Ressy) |
| 17:21.14 | Shirik | I actually have a permanent retainer in my mouth which I had since I was about 16, but I thought that was highly unusual. |
| 17:21.15 | *** join/#wowuidev startxkdm (~startxkdm@11.sub-70-197-194.myvzw.com) |
| 17:21.29 | Lopeppeppy | I can take it out to clean it, but otherwise it's 24/7 until the stitches are out in in the middle of April. |
| 17:21.49 | Lopeppeppy | After that... we shall see what we shall see, for the April-June stretch. |
| 17:22.21 | Unkle | I'll be doing much the same thing 'soon'. |
| 17:22.24 | Lopeppeppy | Once the process is done, it's an expensive piece of trash. :( |
| 17:22.41 | Lopeppeppy | I shall provide you as many details as you want, Unkle. |
| 17:23.21 | Shirik | It's a memento not trash :( |
| 17:23.32 | Unkle | Well, since I'm going to have to replace at least one, probably two teeth with implants, I'm going to want ALL the gory details. |
| 17:23.48 | Lopeppeppy | I shall provide all the gore you require, and more! Bwa ha ha and stuff. |
| 17:24.12 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, I don't keep mementos - I had to clean out my parents' 50 years worth of "memories", I don't ever want someone else to have to do that. |
| 17:25.18 | Shirik | I have to go INSIDE a bank today |
| 17:25.18 | Unkle | I am slightly more sentimental than Lopeppeppy. I still have my ponytail (I couldn't donate it because it was dyed). |
| 17:25.20 | Shirik | I'm scared |
| 17:25.55 | Unkle | Shirik: The nice people inside likely won't hurt you. They want you to keep putting dollars into their institution. |
| 17:26.06 | Shirik | I'm actually removing them lol |
| 17:26.08 | Dagmar | Shirik: Just remember, it's inappropriate to refer to the office ferns as "tumbleweeds" |
| 17:26.36 | Shirik | I need to send a wire and as far as I can tell their shitty online banking thing doesn't let me do that |
| 17:28.44 | Lopeppeppy | So much wire-sending-money fraud, so little time. No wonder they make you do it in person. |
| 17:34.41 | Unkle | And no wonder an entire secondary service market sprung up around that need. |
| 17:41.03 | *** join/#wowuidev ikcerog (~ikcerog@12.165.188.172) |
| 17:43.16 | Fisker | hey Unkle |
| 17:45.08 | Unkle | hey Fisker |
| 17:45.22 | Lopeppeppy | Hey Shirik, I got tossed in jail over spring break, will you wire me bail money? If I'm not bailed out within 24 hours this will go onto my permanent record and prevent me from getting jobs in the future! |
| 17:47.22 | Dagmar | I smell a con |
| 17:48.48 | Unkle | But she needs to get out of jail to take care of a sick cat who has cancer, and the rent is due, and her wallet was stolen by thugs on campus, but she got wrongly accused of assault by them, and now she's in the clink. |
| 17:58.01 | karl_w_w | like dragoncon, dagmar? do they all have their own unique scent? :P |
| 18:03.38 | Lopeppeppy | Unkle knows my sad story. Wire me bail! |
| 18:21.27 | *** join/#wowuidev zoktar (~zoktar@unaffiliated/zoktar) |
| 18:28.39 | *** join/#wowuidev Gethe (~quassel@cpe-24-55-4-32.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 18:52.13 | *** join/#wowuidev Ycarene (~jporterf@184-155-24-221.cpe.cableone.net) |
| 18:53.40 | Semlar | oh look, harrison jones is back to offer me grutek's cleaver for the fifth time in a row |
| 18:54.32 | *** join/#wowuidev Simca (~Simca@c-76-123-93-232.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 18:54.51 | Semlar | here simca https://youtu.be/0Wr61Bh4bu0 |
| 19:00.24 | *** join/#wowuidev Primer_ (~daniel@ec2-52-11-183-159.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) |
| 19:31.24 | VIad | karl_w_w: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzH8haUiXu8&t=4m20s#t=4m20s |
| 19:33.47 | znf | hey Semlar, what's the status of znfPlates? |
| 19:34.26 | Semlar | tries to calm znf down |
| 19:36.46 | Semlar | someone PM'd me on mmo-champion trying to get me to send them the addon |
| 19:37.03 | znf | ofc someone did :P |
| 19:37.12 | znf | because it's an awesome concept |
| 19:38.06 | Semlar | i'm not going to release it but i'm going to send it to some random person? |
| 19:38.09 | VIad | Semlar: you still owe me vladWorldmap where is it? |
| 19:38.23 | Semlar | i don't owe nobody nuffin |
| 19:38.24 | kullervo | huh have I missed a cool new thing? |
| 19:38.36 | Semlar | nah |
| 19:38.48 | kullervo | picspls so I can convince myself it's not that cool anyway |
| 19:39.16 | Semlar | https://youtu.be/tIrSlYh-5ao |
| 19:40.17 | kullervo | oh I've seen this done before, cool concept but never felt it was neccessary |
| 19:40.40 | znf | you should try multi-doting :P |
| 19:40.45 | kullervo | oh yeah, true |
| 19:40.55 | karl_w_w | VIad, http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/30sp8u/dota_keyrings/cpvu6jn?context=3 |
| 19:41.10 | znf | Remember Horridon in ToT? |
| 19:41.19 | znf | I would have killed for an addon like that |
| 19:41.24 | kullervo | I solo that 3 times a week |
| 19:41.35 | znf | I think that's when I actually asked Semlar about the possibility of such an addon |
| 19:41.49 | znf | Yeah, well, when it was current content, on heroic, it was a bitch to find all the fast-moving ads :) |
| 19:42.05 | kullervo | meh those weren't my problem, I tanked the boss :D |
| 19:42.14 | znf | Semlar, you should totally give this new version to me |
| 19:42.34 | kullervo | and they didn't move that fast tbh... And they were grouped up pretty well |
| 19:42.45 | znf | Depending on your tactic |
| 19:43.12 | kullervo | depending on your tank's skill |
| 19:43.36 | Semlar | it's not finiiiiished |
| 19:43.49 | kullervo | I find it sort of sad that prot palas suck so hard now |
| 19:43.55 | znf | Semlar, yeah, it doesn't track dots. That takes, like, what, 30 minutes? Cool. |
| 19:44.06 | znf | I'm joking |
| 19:44.16 | kullervo | they were always bad for soloing due to being so heavily dependent on vengeance and now they're just miserable |
| 19:44.18 | znf | Semlar, but, anyway, I'm impressed that nobody has commented on that anymore :D |
| 19:44.30 | VIad | Semlar: that video does it work incombat? |
| 19:44.32 | kullervo | got to play EVERY mechanic on Horridon, and the boss goes down soo slow :| |
| 19:44.33 | VIad | lazyplates |
| 19:44.40 | Semlar | well i'm in combat so |
| 19:44.42 | kullervo | VIad: he was in combat with the dummies |
| 19:44.56 | VIad | I mean it must assign the nameplates "units" right |
| 19:45.09 | VIad | for the frame buttons to work |
| 19:45.19 | Semlar | it's the nameplates |
| 19:45.22 | znf | ^ |
| 19:45.28 | VIad | oh |
| 19:45.32 | VIad | just moved into a frame :p |
| 19:45.35 | Semlar | it's hax |
| 19:45.35 | Primer | phelps: Don't suppose you'd lend a fellow a hand in setting up nginx to mimic your setup? |
| 19:45.40 | kullervo | the actual nameplates go on buttons like that? |
| 19:45.45 | kullervo | that's sort of neat tbh |
| 19:45.53 | Semlar | sort of |
| 19:45.57 | VIad | just anchoring them to a frame without overlapping |
| 19:46.04 | VIad | can nameplate frames be moved in combat? :p |
| 19:46.16 | VIad | thought the game overrides any parenting, owner, anchor, e.g. |
| 19:46.26 | Semlar | well it's all done securely |
| 19:46.30 | Primer | phelps: I know you posted your config file, but it seems there's no package for the nginx module you're using |
| 19:46.33 | znf | he found a way! |
| 19:46.35 | VIad | got it |
| 19:46.39 | Semlar | you could do the same thing with any unit frames |
| 19:46.39 | znf | Primer, ngingx+ |
| 19:46.52 | Semlar | it doesn't sort them or anything |
| 19:47.25 | kullervo | btw znf did you see the vid or mechanic explanation of the vizier easymode solo? |
| 19:47.42 | znf | kullervo, no, but I'm no solo player, so I wouldn't appreciate it anyway |
| 19:47.44 | kullervo | easymode as in "doesn't require mad burst or high gear" |
| 19:48.03 | Primer | znf: is that supposed to be a fork of nginx or something? I've never used nginx before. |
| 19:48.08 | kullervo | http://i.imgur.com/yV1HI5s.png |
| 19:48.10 | znf | Primer, I'm not sure. |
| 19:48.37 | Primer | https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/how-to-set-up-your-own-private-rtmp-server-using-nginx.50/ |
| 19:49.09 | Primer | heh, instructions for building... |
| 19:49.26 | VIad | about ngix any tips on a good version for windows? :/ |
| 19:49.37 | Primer | think I'll setup an lxc for this |
| 19:50.03 | znf | VIad, yeah. VirtualBox, linux. Done. Works under Windows. |
| 19:50.04 | znf | :D |
| 19:50.08 | VIad | the forking and such on windows acts lame with services :( |
| 19:50.09 | Semlar | i'm also surprised nobody has replied after i posted that video, either they're trying to figure out how i did it or don't have anything to say |
| 19:50.22 | VIad | Semlar: wasnt it moving the nameplate frames? |
| 19:50.27 | znf | Semlar, that's what I was thinking :D they all shut up |
| 19:50.42 | znf | They were like http://i.imgur.com/iP7xoUD.jpg |
| 19:51.45 | VIad | or like http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/aint-nobody-got-time-for-that.gif |
| 19:52.09 | Semlar | i think anybody sufficiently motivated would make time for it |
| 19:52.12 | VIad | btw half life to aged badly :( |
| 19:52.19 | VIad | half life 2 :P |
| 19:52.44 | VIad | well Semlar if done securely you use the built in frame handling so moving the nameplates with secure templates is probably the way to go |
| 19:53.05 | znf | Semlar, maybe everyone's less smart than you! |
| 19:53.09 | znf | when it comes to nameplates :P |
| 19:53.18 | znf | I still say Kesava should make knp like that! |
| 19:53.18 | Primer | Semlarplates NOW! |
| 19:53.19 | Semlar | had to qualify that |
| 19:53.35 | karl_w_w | VIad, stop me from buying the aegis |
| 19:54.21 | Kesava | semlar you fil lthe screen with secure frames and use the mouseover event, yes? |
| 19:54.23 | VIad | buy aegis you need it, better than insurance |
| 19:54.30 | *** join/#wowuidev ikcerog (~ikcerog@12.165.188.172) |
| 19:54.51 | Semlar | i think i've explained how i did it a few times in here |
| 19:54.54 | *** join/#wowuidev ikcerog (~ikcerog@12.165.188.172) |
| 19:54.56 | *** join/#wowuidev mckenziemc (~Mark@104-51-145-162.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 19:55.18 | VIad | I havent used secure frames enough, but probably done with that :p |
| 19:55.19 | Semlar | but basically i don't actually move the frames until you try to access one of them |
| 19:55.29 | Semlar | it's all a trick |
| 19:55.43 | Kesava | (is that a yes) |
| 19:55.43 | Semlar | i show the frame in one spot |
| 19:55.54 | Semlar | when it's still above their head |
| 19:55.56 | VIad | so wait you can move the nameplates in combat without using any secure template or similar? |
| 19:56.08 | Semlar | and then when you go to mouse over it in the grid it moves it there |
| 19:56.24 | Kesava | yeah |
| 19:56.27 | VIad | it it wont work if you turn your camera away :p |
| 19:56.32 | Kesava | i'm pretty sure blizzard wouldn't want that to be possible |
| 19:56.52 | Kesava | i'm thinking of when healbot used to put the frames under your mouse and you could just click |
| 19:56.53 | VIad | i.e. it's possible to reset the frame tracking the nameplates |
| 19:56.56 | Kesava | you could pretty much recreate that |
| 19:57.04 | Semlar | no you couldn't |
| 19:57.05 | VIad | nameplates are abit special though |
| 19:57.11 | Semlar | because you can't access any information about the unit |
| 19:57.19 | Kesava | you can click them though |
| 19:57.23 | Kesava | to target them? |
| 19:57.33 | Semlar | what good is putting a random frame under your mouse |
| 19:57.33 | Kesava | so okay you still have to push a button |
| 19:57.40 | Kesava | but you're "moving" secure frames in combat |
| 19:57.43 | VIad | well once moused over and tracked you have a guid |
| 19:57.48 | VIad | could use that to match up with cleu events |
| 19:57.52 | VIad | i.e. move debuffed units further up |
| 19:57.53 | Semlar | uh no i don't |
| 19:58.10 | Semlar | what part of "everything is done securely" makes you think i have the GUID in the restricted environment |
| 19:58.11 | VIad | as long the nameplate doesnt disappear |
| 19:58.30 | VIad | mousing over a nameplate lets you store the guid on it |
| 19:58.43 | VIad | when frame disappears you can assume it is reassigned so you clear the guid variable |
| 19:58.58 | Simca | the restricted environment limits the API functions available drastically |
| 19:59.02 | VIad | oh |
| 19:59.02 | Simca | I don't think UnitGUID is available |
| 19:59.05 | VIad | nvm |
| 19:59.18 | VIad | the secure templates do limit you yes |
| 19:59.50 | VIad | so yeah you wouldnt be able to smarty position them |
| 19:59.58 | VIad | btw hl2 has loads of loading screens |
| 20:00.04 | VIad | since I know where to go, like 1 min max and next screen |
| 20:00.07 | VIad | kind of breaks the flow :P |
| 20:00.25 | znf | I've owned HL2 for 10 years now on Steam. I never played it :( |
| 20:00.33 | Kesava | the source engine* |
| 20:00.38 | Kesava | black mesa source |
| 20:00.44 | Kesava | loading loading loading loading loading loading loading loading loading loading loading loading loading loading loading |
| 20:00.45 | Kesava | ugh |
| 20:01.13 | Kesava | anyway yeah i'm pretty sure blizzard wouldn't like what you're doing semlar |
| 20:01.21 | Semlar | how come |
| 20:01.21 | Kesava | that's really the only reason i don't want to recreate it |
| 20:01.22 | znf | You shoudl do it, Kemayo |
| 20:01.23 | Primer | So you're saying we can't have Semlarplates? |
| 20:01.35 | Kesava | you are able to click those frames right? |
| 20:01.38 | Kesava | or is it just visual? |
| 20:01.41 | Semlar | they're literally nameplates |
| 20:01.44 | Kesava | right |
| 20:01.50 | znf | Kesava, well, why do healers get to click-target friendlies in a grid but dps can't? |
| 20:01.55 | Kesava | so you're "moving" the clickboxes in combat |
| 20:01.59 | Kesava | and that's bad |
| 20:02.02 | Semlar | why is that bad |
| 20:02.06 | Kesava | because it is |
| 20:02.09 | znf | Healers have been doing it since Vanilla. |
| 20:02.14 | Semlar | let me rephrase that, how is that exploitable |
| 20:02.21 | Semlar | you have zero information on the unit |
| 20:02.31 | Semlar | you don't know their health |
| 20:02.45 | Kesava | well whatever |
| 20:02.47 | Semlar | you don't know their GUID |
| 20:02.48 | Kesava | it's a hack |
| 20:02.56 | Kesava | they need to like |
| 20:02.57 | Kesava | make it |
| 20:02.59 | Kesava | because it's good |
| 20:03.06 | Kesava | but i don't want to break nameplates that much |
| 20:03.13 | Kesava | broken enough as it is |
| 20:03.20 | Primer | I'm having a hard time following this conversation |
| 20:03.23 | Kesava | yknow |
| 20:03.32 | Kesava | raiding, sorry |
| 20:03.41 | znf | Kesava, but! WHAT IF THIS FORCES THEM TO FIX IT? :o |
| 20:03.43 | Primer | I wish I understood what the goal was |
| 20:03.46 | znf | wishful thinking |
| 20:04.03 | Kesava | idd |
| 20:04.14 | Primer | I've maintained that that goal of Semlarplates was to have the equivalent of an "enemy raid frame" for RBGs |
| 20:04.33 | znf | Yes. |
| 20:04.37 | znf | Plus aura tracking. |
| 20:04.40 | znf | Thank you. |
| 20:04.58 | Semlar | i ought to aura track you |
| 20:05.20 | Primer | something that would allow me, for example as an affliction warlock, to cast onto non-moving "plates", that would be conveniently located next to BattleGroundTargets, and show the current HP, cast bars, buffs, and debuffs |
| 20:05.48 | Primer | non-moving being the important part |
| 20:06.14 | Primer | And yes, I understand there'd be limitations, such as HP and auras only refreshing upon mouseover |
| 20:06.32 | znf | I don't think there's a limitation on HP refreshing only on mouseover? |
| 20:06.44 | Semlar | nameplates are super volatile though |
| 20:06.48 | Primer | well, auras seem to have that limitation |
| 20:06.55 | Semlar | they're always moving on and off the screen |
| 20:07.02 | znf | I'm fine with that :D |
| 20:07.14 | Semlar | i can't force it to stay or show back up in the same spot it vanished from |
| 20:07.41 | znf | I know. I'm fine with that. |
| 20:07.50 | Primer | Semlar: ok, let's think of this purely from an RBG perspective |
| 20:07.53 | znf | is aware of how nameplates work now |
| 20:08.01 | VIad | Semlar: combining what you did and laying out the nameplates in a different way, and combining something like PlateBuffs would achieve knowing info about the unit and displaying said info (just couldn't order it based on anything, could still show them neatily) |
| 20:08.03 | Primer | Each RBG team has 10 people |
| 20:08.05 | Semlar | so either you end up with holes between the frames where a unit has moved off-screen or all of the frames after it are moved up to fill the spot |
| 20:08.16 | Primer | BGT already creates a way to track them |
| 20:08.32 | Primer | I usually sort my BGT by healers/tanks/DPS, then alphabetically |
| 20:08.54 | Primer | So given that, you have a frame that has 10 rows, each with a name attached |
| 20:09.03 | Primer | and you know the position of these rows and their names |
| 20:09.13 | kullervo | Primer: well the difference is that there won't randomly be more players midcombat in an RBG, unlike in pve where there are Adds |
| 20:09.49 | Primer | Is it impossible to determine the name of the unit in the nameplate and position it to match the name in BGT? |
| 20:10.02 | Semlar | no information about any unit whatsoever |
| 20:10.07 | znf | You can't even filter it, so no :P |
| 20:10.20 | *** join/#wowuidev startxkdm (~startxkdm@11.sub-70-197-194.myvzw.com) |
| 20:10.23 | Primer | that's unfortunate |
| 20:10.24 | znf | And friendly nameplates will end up in the same grid |
| 20:10.34 | Kesava | surely you have their health if they're nameplates? and their name and such |
| 20:10.42 | Semlar | not in the secure environment |
| 20:10.45 | Kesava | oh but you can't actually programmatically do anything with it |
| 20:10.47 | Semlar | i can display whatever i want on it |
| 20:10.47 | Kesava | right |
| 20:10.49 | znf | (for those weirdos that have friendly and enemy nameplates) |
| 20:10.52 | Semlar | i just can't sort it |
| 20:10.56 | Kesava | yeah. |
| 20:11.15 | Primer | Ok wait. A nameplate has the unit's name on it |
| 20:11.26 | Primer | You can move said nameplate, but that's it? |
| 20:11.57 | Semlar | pretend that you have 10 secure frames with no information about what they represent |
| 20:12.21 | Semlar | that's about what you can see in the secure environment for the 10 nameplates onscreen |
| 20:12.44 | Semlar | you can get the nameplate name |
| 20:12.59 | Semlar | like NamePlate1 |
| 20:13.15 | Primer | I presume that varies based on what's visible? |
| 20:13.19 | Semlar | you can't access any regions like fontstrings in the secure environment |
| 20:13.42 | Semlar | and when a nameplate is recycled it could show a new unit or the same one it was showing before |
| 20:13.42 | Primer | So the unit represented by NamePlate1 at one point might be NamePlate2 if you run out of range and come back? |
| 20:13.58 | Semlar | yes |
| 20:14.30 | Primer | that is unfortunate |
| 20:14.46 | Semlar | i know the nameplate is visible and i can arrange them in a grid |
| 20:14.50 | Semlar | or however i want |
| 20:15.24 | Semlar | i just can't guarantee that a nameplate will belong to a specific unit |
| 20:15.59 | Semlar | still, the ability to rearrange them is powerful and you could do a lot with it |
| 20:16.27 | znf | can you track auras? |
| 20:16.45 | Semlar | i can display whatever you would normally be able to display on the nameplate |
| 20:16.52 | znf | #winning |
| 20:16.58 | Primer | And can you draw a line from the moved nameplate back to where it originally was? |
| 20:17.05 | Semlar | yes |
| 20:17.07 | znf | yeah |
| 20:17.19 | Semlar | i could show an arrow pointing to it |
| 20:17.35 | Primer | not arrow, line |
| 20:17.39 | Primer | like your other addon |
| 20:17.42 | znf | see first implementation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu0e4Gy1TN8 |
| 20:17.48 | znf | he still keeps track of the original position |
| 20:17.58 | kullervo | Primer: it would move multiple times, potentially |
| 20:18.00 | Semlar | i was planning on just showing a rotating arrow because drawing a line from the frame would be ridiculous |
| 20:18.08 | kullervo | better show an arrow from the previous position |
| 20:18.18 | Primer | The thing I mostly hate about nameplates is that spreading nameplates tend to overlap a LOT and stacking nameplates tend to go up and off screen |
| 20:19.21 | Kesava | on another point, you have to modify the actually nameplate's frames, don't you? |
| 20:19.30 | Kesava | or do you use another bunch of secure frames to display them |
| 20:19.41 | Semlar | modify how |
| 20:19.51 | znf | Primer, you simply can't play with Stacking. |
| 20:19.55 | Kesava | well, such that the nameplates above their heads couldn't be modified by another addon |
| 20:19.58 | Kesava | ... see what i'm getting at |
| 20:20.07 | znf | Primer, unless you play on something like 50000x2000px screen size |
| 20:20.17 | Kesava | see if you could make it in a certain way you could have kui AND semar |
| 20:20.18 | znf | so they have room to grow wherever the fuck they want |
| 20:20.18 | Kesava | and that'd be nice |
| 20:20.31 | Semlar | there is no way in hell you could run this with another nameplate addon |
| 20:20.34 | Kesava | psh |
| 20:20.42 | Semlar | it would have to be designed for it |
| 20:21.17 | Semlar | i mean it wouldn't take much to make kui attach to the correct frame but it wouldn't work out of the box |
| 20:21.29 | Primer | znf: well, if spreading never overlapped, I'd just use that |
| 20:21.43 | znf | I gave up, and I just use overlapping |
| 20:21.44 | Primer | I don't DPS any more anyhow |
| 20:21.47 | Semlar | there's a nameplate overlap cvar |
| 20:21.48 | Kesava | i wouldn't mind doing that |
| 20:22.07 | Primer | Semlar: for the amount of overlap? |
| 20:22.11 | Semlar | presumably |
| 20:22.23 | Semlar | nameplateOverlapH and nameplateOverlapV |
| 20:22.30 | Semlar | defaults are 0.8 and 1.3 |
| 20:22.47 | Semlar | don't ask me if they actually do anything because i've never tried to find out |
| 20:22.51 | Semlar | i use overlapping nameplates |
| 20:23.04 | Semlar | with stay exactly above the unit they represent |
| 20:23.07 | Semlar | which* |
| 20:23.13 | mckenziemc | displays a nameplate over Scvarr |
| 20:23.26 | znf | I like stacking. But they're impossible to play with. |
| 20:23.36 | znf | And overlapping are nice, except sometimes you can't click them for shit. |
| 20:23.47 | Semlar | well they'll be more impossible to play with with my addon because you will lose the ability to click the nameplate above their head |
| 20:24.09 | Semlar | and there isn't really a reliable way to return that functionality |
| 20:24.12 | znf | I don't really need to click their nameplate |
| 20:24.20 | znf | I just look trough my nameplates to see which lacks dots :P |
| 20:24.31 | znf | if there's a specific target I need to hit, I can click on it... |
| 20:24.35 | Semlar | yeah i imagine it's not really an issue because i'd rather click through most nameplates anyway |
| 20:24.38 | Primer | as long as you can mouseover cast on the nameplate |
| 20:24.58 | Semlar | the interactive portion will be in the addon grid |
| 20:25.09 | Semlar | once i take it off i can't really put it back |
| 20:25.20 | Primer | I've switched to 100% mouseover macros for all my caster DPS toons |
| 20:25.35 | Semlar | i mean, i can if the nameplate has been created out of combat, but i wouldn't be able to restore it for any new nameplates created during a fight |
| 20:26.11 | mckenziemc | i tried that but didn't like it o.o |
| 20:26.14 | Primer | it's fucking awesome for RBGs. "Oh look at that stupid warlock! He's targeting our DK and casting while he has AMS up!", not realizing I've just dotted up everyone else |
| 20:26.16 | mckenziemc | too easy to hit the wrong target |
| 20:27.05 | Primer | not if the nameplates are properly spread |
| 20:27.16 | znf | spreading is cool |
| 20:27.17 | Semlar | yeah the main thing i think blizzard might object to is that this sort of gives people running it an advantage |
| 20:27.28 | Primer | duh |
| 20:27.31 | Semlar | and that's not normally cool |
| 20:27.53 | kullervo | most combat addons give the player an advantage |
| 20:27.58 | Semlar | that's true |
| 20:28.30 | znf | I'm positive that Semlar's crosshair addon gives me an advantage |
| 20:28.31 | znf | ^^ |
| 20:28.39 | Semlar | :O |
| 20:31.04 | Semlar | i didn't like the disconnect it had from the units on the screen, but i imagine it's less of an issue for casters because healers deal with the same thing |
| 20:31.16 | Primer | I'm positive not using the default UI gives me an advantage |
| 20:31.31 | Kesava | in 6.2 they'll disable all addons now |
| 20:31.37 | Semlar | it's for the best |
| 20:32.26 | Kesava | will we be sticking with 4 healers |
| 20:32.30 | Kesava | this is the wrong box |
| 20:32.31 | Kesava | right |
| 20:32.48 | Semlar | sign me up |
| 20:43.21 | znf | Whoever invented this style of search field should be shot http://i.imgur.com/ROATw8S.png |
| 20:43.25 | znf | and then thrown to the hounds |
| 20:45.30 | Semlar | youtuuuuube |
| 20:46.12 | Semlar | it took me so long to figure out how to search a channel |
| 20:46.36 | *** join/#wowuidev startxkdm (~startxkdm@11.sub-70-197-194.myvzw.com) |
| 20:46.43 | *** join/#wowuidev ikcerog (~ikcerog@12.165.188.172) |
| 20:47.04 | znf | what? no, youtube doesn't do that |
| 20:47.08 | *** join/#wowuidev ikcerog (~ikcerog@12.165.188.172) |
| 20:47.17 | znf | curse does that |
| 20:47.22 | Semlar | yeah, it does |
| 20:47.35 | Kesava | youtube does it in channel pages |
| 20:47.39 | Kesava | it is the worst thing |
| 20:47.58 | znf | Oh |
| 20:48.00 | Kesava | "here's a bunch of whitespace with a button you have to click in order to open the search box wich doesn't even completely fill the whitespace" |
| 20:48.02 | Kesava | what the fuck |
| 20:48.03 | znf | I never even seen that button |
| 20:48.11 | znf | https://gfycat.com/LimitedTastyImperialeagle |
| 20:48.21 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.32 | znf | what's with the mushroom?! |
| 20:48.57 | Semlar | you've never seen it because it's impossible to find |
| 20:49.19 | znf | I'm not such a heavy youtube user |
| 20:49.29 | znf | "channels" to me are non-existant |
| 20:51.16 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:52.30 | znf | I'm hungry. What should I eat? |
| 20:52.40 | Semlar | for a company built around a search engine google is terrible at making searches |
| 20:54.01 | kullervo | where do you even find those fields |
| 20:54.05 | karl_w_w | youtube does that on channel pages probably because otherwise there would be 2 search boxes close to each other |
| 20:54.56 | karl_w_w | the youtube one is fine though because there is nothing funky about the behaviour of the search field once it appears |
| 20:55.02 | karl_w_w | and it stays there |
| 20:57.05 | karl_w_w | well, it does have one annoyance in the way that secondary toolbar comes down if you're not at the top of the page |
| 20:57.18 | karl_w_w | that's just ridiculously stupid and pointless design |
| 20:57.45 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure it also force-scrolls down the page so that menu is shown but i don't remember what triggers that |
| 20:58.06 | karl_w_w | I'm pretty sure a web dev made that just to show off, even if it was only to himself |
| 20:58.28 | Kesava | it's terrible |
| 20:58.36 | Kesava | it's a terrible way of fixing the problem, there are better ways |
| 20:58.43 | Kesava | so ner |
| 21:00.50 | *** join/#wowuidev Ycarene (~jporterf@184-155-24-221.cpe.cableone.net) |
| 21:24.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Ycarene (~jporterf@184-155-24-221.cpe.cableone.net) |
| 21:28.56 | zenzelezz | "Ambiguous tag Poisson" - "It is definitely fishy" |
| 21:57.07 | *** join/#wowuidev ikcerog (~ikcerog@12.165.188.172) |
| 22:00.32 | *** join/#wowuidev squeakytoy (~squeakyto@h87-96-232-231.dynamic.se.alltele.net) |
| 22:21.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Kodiack (~Colto_000@121-73-86-207.cable.telstraclear.net) |
| 22:29.53 | *** join/#wowuidev Ressy (Ressy@192-0-172-185.cpe.teksavvy.com) |
| 22:29.53 | *** join/#wowuidev Ressy (Ressy@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Ressy) |
| 22:38.31 | *** join/#wowuidev nitind1 (nitind@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-zbbylitdxjikfvyb) |
| 22:41.54 | *** join/#wowuidev startxkdm (~startxkdm@11.sub-70-197-194.myvzw.com) |
| 22:46.50 | Neffi | hmm. any better Android phones in the $300~400 range than the Moto X? |
| 22:49.46 | Neffi | Not looking to spend a shitload, so I'm looking at the Moto X or the 1+1. Any advice would be appreciated. |
| 22:57.15 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (~Kraps@ool-182d7861.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 22:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (~Kraps@unaffiliated/kraps) |
| 22:59.39 | *** join/#wowuidev Kowh (~bob913@135-23-187-234.cpe.pppoe.ca) |
| 23:06.38 | Neffi | hmm. didn't one of the regulars here get the OnePlus One? |
| 23:06.53 | Neffi | thoughts? open sales start soon and I think I'm gonna go for that if it's as good as it seems |
| 23:07.39 | *** join/#wowuidev ikcerog (~ikcerog@2601:4:4880:4a1:c1ae:1ee3:615:b3cd) |
| 23:10.18 | *** join/#wowuidev Aelo (~Aelo@host109-156-32-14.range109-156.btcentralplus.com) |
| 23:12.29 | Stanzilla | go for it |
| 23:18.50 | Primer | I've been pondering getting one as well |
| 23:18.59 | Primer | I'm just not too keen on the size |
| 23:19.08 | Primer | I'd really like to hold one before I buy |
| 23:19.57 | *** join/#wowuidev Arrowmaster (~Arrowmast@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ResponsibleForEverythingAndNothing/Arrowmaster) |
| 23:20.53 | Neffi | The size is one of the selling points for me |
| 23:22.05 | Neffi | I dont want to spend a lot. I recently shopped for my father. He got a Moto G. It's nice, but even at 5" is feels a tad small to me, and the A7 feels a bit slower than I'd like. The 1+1 seems too good to be true at only $300 for a Snapdragon 801 and a 1080p 5.5" screen |
| 23:23.13 | Ressy | the 1+1 is nice |
| 23:23.26 | Ressy | I have it :) |
| 23:23.47 | nevcairiel | you think 5" is too small? you are whats wrong with the smartphone market =P |
| 23:24.17 | Neffi | nevcairiel: I have big hands and bad eyes ;) |
| 23:24.43 | nevcairiel | I also have big hands, but above 5" it gets tricky to use it with just one |
| 23:24.47 | Neffi | I'm so happy the market went in the direction of bigger phones |
| 23:25.09 | Neffi | yeah, but it's so much better for most uses |
| 23:26.38 | Sintacks | wow keeps saying there is a patch required but battle.net isn't downloading/installing anything .... |
| 23:26.42 | Sintacks | wtfack |
| 23:26.58 | Ressy | I have small hands.. |
| 23:27.03 | Ressy | Surprisingly, I've gotten used to the phoen |
| 23:27.36 | Torhal | phoen proves otherwise. |
| 23:27.39 | Torhal | >.> |
| 23:28.15 | fewyn | cooking on a gas stove is... different |
| 23:28.31 | znf | So, how many times can I re-encode an mp3 (to the same bitrate) before it starts sounding like crap? |
| 23:28.33 | Ressy | I'm on my computer |
| 23:28.39 | Ressy | Nathan's on my phone talking to the ex. |
| 23:28.42 | Torhal | !!! |
| 23:29.09 | znf | I need to find out, for science |
| 23:29.29 | Ressy | bedtime phone cal, which is supposed to be in 30 minutes, but he's leaving the city to go see his gf for the night. lol |
| 23:29.32 | mikma | ressy: you know the saying.... small hansds, small... |
| 23:29.38 | mikma | ressy: fingers |
| 23:30.44 | nevcairiel | znf: http://scruss.com/blog/2012/02/21/generational-loss-in-mp3-re-encoding/ |
| 23:31.47 | znf | so about 1000 times? |
| 23:32.58 | nevcairiel | there is 1000 and 100 on that page, and both sound broken already, to different degrees |
| 23:33.02 | nevcairiel | in short, dont do it once :p |
| 23:33.17 | znf | 100 doesn't sound horribly bad (though you can hear artifacts) |
| 23:33.35 | znf | but it seems to be safe to re-encode even 10 times |
| 23:34.26 | znf | doesn't say what bitrate, though |
| 23:38.18 | znf | thinks he should have picked a shorter song |
| 23:39.36 | *** join/#wowuidev Sintacks (~Syntax@75-109-20-47.chlncmtk01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) |
| 23:46.36 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/1vqZUjD.jpg these seem to be the siegemaker spawns |
| 23:47.32 | Semlar | so much for dividing the room into regular quadrants |
| 23:48.57 | znf | nevcairiel, I'm at 60 recompressions, still sounds good |
| 23:51.17 | Sintacks | Downstream: 36300.97 KBytes/s Upstream: 373.21 KBytes/s |
| 23:51.18 | Sintacks | weeeeee |
| 23:53.57 | znf | someone found internet! |
| 23:54.21 | kullervo | Sintacks: there's... something wrong with your upstream |
| 23:55.09 | Sintacks | how so |
| 23:55.28 | kullervo | unless it's current utilization instead of peak max |
| 23:56.26 | Sintacks | current. and should be bits and not bytes, but i didn't make the thing so meh |
| 23:57.20 | kullervo | then it's not only terrifyingly asymmetric but also slow D: |
| 23:57.45 | kullervo | if that's not 4g please hang some of your ISP's board member by the balls |
| 23:58.05 | Sintacks | wat |
| 23:58.35 | znf | There. |
| 23:58.36 | znf | http://imgur.com/a/Lzboq |
| 23:58.41 | kullervo | maybe less rum tomorrow |
| 23:58.46 | znf | first encode on top, 100th re-encode on the bottom |
