| 00:00.08 | Semlar | these bars are like right-aligned |
| 00:00.28 | Semlar | i wonder if that's intentional |
| 00:00.39 | znf | Nameplates seem so badly implemented in the whole game, yet it's a feature I can't live without :( |
| 00:00.50 | startxkdm | You know, I thought I noticed something wierd with TAB-Targeting last night. Tanked my first dungeon since Cataclysm. Had a heck of a time targeting mobs slightly off to the side of my camera view. |
| 00:01.13 | znf | startxkdm, yup, same issue |
| 00:01.18 | nevcairiel | i dont really ever need to do that when tanking, just aoe aggro everything |
| 00:01.31 | Semlar | thrash! |
| 00:01.37 | znf | sometimes when tanking I want to charge to a specific target for, well, reason |
| 00:01.39 | znf | sometimes when tanking I want to charge to a specific target for, well, reasons |
| 00:01.46 | startxkdm | It's a habit from pre-Cata, when Warr tanks didn't have good AoE tanking. |
| 00:01.48 | znf | yet tab fucks me over :P |
| 00:02.02 | Semlar | thunderclap hit like 3 targets |
| 00:02.05 | nevcairiel | if you want a specific one, clicking on it seems much faster |
| 00:02.11 | Semlar | and you had to tab through and cleave |
| 00:02.27 | Semlar | and threat actually mattered |
| 00:02.31 | startxkdm | Lol.. ohh yes, kind of miss tanking back then |
| 00:02.44 | Semlar | and then you had to try tanking shattered halls as a prot warrior |
| 00:02.52 | nevcairiel | i did that |
| 00:02.56 | nevcairiel | it was quite a lot of wo rk |
| 00:03.04 | Semlar | oh yes, i remember |
| 00:03.11 | startxkdm | *Waits to dps until 3 stacks of Sunder Armor are applied* |
| 00:03.18 | znf | nevcairiel, well, let's say there's 2 mobs, you're targetting one, but you want to swap to the other one which is behind a few yards. Pre-6.0 all it took was a tab. Now you need to tab twice - and that works ONLY when your 2nd target is in whatever that radius is now |
| 00:03.21 | Semlar | and then i started playing my druid |
| 00:03.22 | startxkdm | C'mon! Lets go! |
| 00:03.29 | Semlar | who could swipe LITERALLY EVERYTHING |
| 00:03.33 | znf | or click :P |
| 00:03.48 | nevcairiel | i dont think it was that easy back in shattered halls times either for them |
| 00:03.50 | Semlar | the druid had like 2 buttons |
| 00:04.01 | Semlar | it was great |
| 00:04.09 | znf | I like druid/cat spec in Cata :D |
| 00:04.24 | znf | I had fun. Join group as DPS, tank dies, oooops, swap to bear form start tanking |
| 00:04.26 | nevcairiel | shattered halls is bc |
| 00:04.32 | startxkdm | Yeah. A rl friend loved to tank on a dudu in Wotlk. Just finger-dance the two abilities... insta epic aggro. |
| 00:05.20 | startxkdm | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:06.44 | startxkdm | Btw Semlar, that timer is working pro now. Can't believe I forgot it had to go at the end of the file, along with the SetText needing to be in the timer itself. Persons gotta start somewhere though. |
| 00:07.12 | Semlar | good |
| 00:08.10 | Semlar | if you have someone in your group named mouseover and you type /target mouseover, what do you suppose it does |
| 00:08.45 | startxkdm | Try to target a player named "Mouseover"? |
| 00:08.57 | Semlar | maybe |
| 00:09.01 | startxkdm | Lol |
| 00:09.05 | Semlar | probably not if you're hovering over something |
| 00:09.48 | startxkdm | Holy hell.. it actually does work with the mouseover. Several years of WoW, never knew that one. |
| 00:10.48 | Semlar | as far as i can tell it picks the unit you're hovering over if it exists, and the player if it doesn't |
| 00:11.12 | Semlar | i was hoping you just couldn't /target them |
| 00:11.49 | startxkdm | I take you just found that mouseover target by accident trying to do something else? |
| 00:12.31 | Semlar | no, just thinking about possibly using it to implement the world's worst tab-targeting system |
| 00:12.47 | startxkdm | Sounds fun. |
| 00:13.16 | Semlar | i could cover the screen with a nameplate and run a /target mouseover macro |
| 00:13.17 | startxkdm | Wait. Anything has to be better then Blizz's default engine. xD |
| 00:14.02 | Semlar | i'm actually pretty sure it won't work, since i think there's at least a 1 frame delay before it recognizes that your mouse is over something |
| 00:14.27 | Semlar | but i might be able to move the nameplate on key down and run the macro on key up |
| 00:14.30 | startxkdm | Hrmm. How about making a frame that captures all mobs you're in combat with, then assigning hotkeys? |
| 00:14.57 | startxkdm | Up to a certain limit, wouldn't want 100 frames on my screen. |
| 00:15.01 | Semlar | theoretically doable if this works |
| 00:15.17 | Semlar | haven't actually tried it |
| 00:15.37 | startxkdm | And now I am getting too many Add-On ideas. lol |
| 00:15.45 | startxkdm | 2 was bad enough. " |
| 00:16.15 | Semlar | it's contagious |
| 00:16.42 | startxkdm | Same with texture modding. Want to mode the entire UI eventually. |
| 00:16.50 | startxkdm | **mod |
| 00:17.13 | znf | See? Semlar has awesome ideas |
| 00:17.20 | znf | But too lazy to finish them :D |
| 00:17.25 | Semlar | far too lazy |
| 00:17.27 | startxkdm | LOL |
| 00:17.37 | startxkdm | No, just too many ideas to focus on one. Right? xD |
| 00:18.06 | Semlar | no i think i'm just really lazy |
| 00:18.24 | tz | so going back to naming toons mouseover, does the named unit get preference when people use mouseover macros or does actual mouseover unit take precedence |
| 00:18.25 | startxkdm | Haha, the first step is admitting it. :P |
| 00:18.28 | Semlar | actually i'm just really bad at focusing on anything |
| 00:18.35 | foxlit | give yourself some credit |
| 00:18.36 | tz | 'cause that would be epic trolling |
| 00:18.43 | foxlit | you actually recognize those ideas as terrible. |
| 00:18.48 | Semlar | tries to calm foxlit down |
| 00:19.18 | foxlit | which is why they never go anywhere |
| 00:19.41 | znf | Nomplates is an awesome idea! |
| 00:19.50 | Semlar | tz: the actual mouseover unit takes precedence |
| 00:19.55 | znf | If I wasn't so code retarded, I could finish it :P |
| 00:20.12 | tz | awww, no fun |
| 00:20.25 | Semlar | yeah it probably doesn't help that it's possibly the most complicated addon i've written |
| 00:20.41 | Semlar | at least the version i have |
| 00:21.16 | znf | What does your version have extra? |
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| 00:21.38 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:21.42 | startxkdm | Semlar, I didn't even realize it.. I use a few of your Add-Ons. :D |
| 00:21.52 | znf | Uhhhh |
| 00:22.21 | znf | Amazeballs |
| 00:22.43 | znf | I wonder how come you're not actually using that :D |
| 00:22.44 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.18 | znf | How many versions did you make? |
| 00:23.23 | tz | I think I've still got a copy of one of your other ones which had arrows for people targeting units |
| 00:23.28 | tz | from aaaaaaaages ago |
| 00:23.32 | Semlar | a lot.. |
| 00:23.37 | znf | O.o |
| 00:23.44 | Semlar | what |
| 00:23.47 | znf | Y U no finish?!?! |
| 00:23.56 | Semlar | it's hard! |
| 00:24.02 | tz | wow ui's are never finished, jeez |
| 00:24.08 | tz | you should know that by now |
| 00:24.15 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:24.31 | tz | now I want it. |
| 00:24.32 | tz | ugh |
| 00:24.58 | Semlar | soo you basically couldn't have friendly nameplates enabled in a raid because you can't filter them out |
| 00:25.03 | znf | Everyone wants it |
| 00:25.20 | znf | Healers have raid frames, screw them :P |
| 00:25.33 | Semlar | yeah but i like being able to put names above people's heads |
| 00:26.59 | Semlar | nameplates are so useful http://i.imgur.com/ie3n9KU.jpg |
| 00:27.02 | znf | Give dot tracking version |
| 00:28.57 | znf | You should make better nameplates, Semlar |
| 00:29.03 | znf | That don't get destroyed |
| 00:29.08 | Semlar | i should.. take a nap |
| 00:29.09 | znf | And have some sort of guid |
| 00:29.21 | znf | And track Auras properly |
| 00:29.23 | Semlar | blizzard should do that |
| 00:29.25 | znf | dreams |
| 00:30.58 | startxkdm | Whatever happened to the days when GM's would visit major cities? -_- |
| 00:42.41 | Semlar | good news |
| 00:42.50 | Semlar | my theory that you can tab through nameplates actually works |
| 00:43.16 | Semlar | i mean, it will break all of your nameplates but i'm sure that's not important |
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| 01:21.22 | Neffi | lpghatguy: no seriously, yes I am |
| 01:21.50 | lpghatguy | I've found your secret life, neffi |
| 01:22.20 | Neffi | be careful |
| 01:22.28 | Neffi | information is dangerous |
| 01:22.30 | Neffi | just ask Semlar |
| 01:22.54 | Semlar | i don't know nuffin about nuffin |
| 01:23.44 | Neffi | ~whalenuke Semlar |
| 01:23.44 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Semlar with his mind powers. |
| 01:23.49 | Neffi | it needed to be done. |
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| 01:25.36 | Semlar | i don't know about that.. |
| 01:30.04 | VIad | http://www.9news.com/story/news/crime/2015/03/19/terminating-pregnancy-crime/25022919/ |
| 01:31.05 | fewyn | sigh the os drive on my media server is dead |
| 01:32.46 | Semlar | um does this article say anything about what happened aside from arguing whether whatever happened was murder |
| 01:34.52 | Semlar | it seems to assume you know what the hell they're talking about |
| 01:35.27 | kd3 | some psychopath lured a pregnant woman on craigslist looking for baby clothes and cut the baby out of the victim |
| 01:35.47 | Semlar | do they ever say that in this article somewhere? |
| 01:36.52 | kd3 | the lead paragraph? also, later... "In this case, police say Lane appears to have lured the victim to her home by posting a Craigslist ad for baby clothes." |
| 01:39.44 | Semlar | i mean something other than "woman accused of cutting an unborn baby out of expectant mother's womb", the whole thing is written like i already know what happened |
| 01:40.26 | nebula169 | i read she's not getting charged with murder, what are the charges? |
| 01:40.52 | Semlar | i'm assuming this is a followup article to something else |
| 01:41.16 | Semlar | but i'm too lazy to click on the menu |
| 01:45.18 | fewyn | didn't i see this same thing on criminal minds or something? |
| 01:45.27 | fewyn | one of those creepy serial killers shows |
| 01:45.29 | fewyn | pretty sure i did |
| 02:12.52 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/VancityReynolds/status/581485601674792960 |
| 02:15.16 | pompy | zenzelezz: hatch opening coverage in 30 minutes |
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| 03:24.48 | phelps | about that 9news video, they said it was a well performed c-section |
| 03:25.09 | phelps | that makes it a little more creepy tbh, that means the woman was educated ? |
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| 03:36.35 | Arrowmaster | how have i not seen this before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pzAXEtLpx4 |
| 04:09.12 | pompy | is this fan made |
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| 04:59.00 | Arrowmaster | pompy: yes |
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| 07:26.13 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/oFw5drn.webm |
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| 08:15.37 | Mr_Rabies | i've been so out of the loop on gaming news, what's pillars of eternity? seems like a new baulder's gate-style game |
| 08:57.40 | karl_w_w | since when was an "unborn baby" something that exists |
| 08:57.57 | karl_w_w | that's like saying "uncooked toast" instead of bread |
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| 09:23.24 | Mr_Rabies | i mean |
| 09:23.27 | Mr_Rabies | bread's cooked |
| 09:24.04 | Mr_Rabies | it'd be like calling malted barley unbrewed beer :v |
| 09:24.11 | Mr_Rabies | (which i'm totally for) |
| 09:29.28 | karl_w_w | "unbrowned bread slices" |
| 09:32.39 | Torhal | Mr_Rabies: That's pretty much the summation for Pillars of Eternity. I backed it in 2012. |
| 09:32.50 | Torhal | Some of the old Black Isles Studio folks made it. |
| 09:36.52 | Simca | karl_w_w: ignoring context, 'baby' can be used to refer to anything from a fetus to a toddler, so it is valid to something to make it more specific |
| 09:38.17 | g0urra | Torhal: how is PoE? |
| 09:38.36 | Torhal | g0urra: Fantastic, aside from some rather WTF bugs. |
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| 09:48.06 | karl_w_w | I've never heard of it applying to a fetus Simca, and can't find anything like that in the googles |
| 09:51.27 | foxlit | i seem to have ran out of gear token missions :/ |
| 09:53.53 | Simca | karl_w_w: "the baby is kicking", "is your baby going to be a boy or a girl?", etc - nobody ever refers to it as a fetus here unless they're being theoretical |
| 09:57.45 | Mr_Rabies | in a non-technical setting if someone asked "is your fetus a boy or a girl" i'd probably start looking for gills |
| 09:58.38 | Simca | that sentence was a lot more amusing when I misread it as "grills" |
| 10:15.48 | Mr_Rabies | shadowplay is neat |
| 10:16.01 | Mr_Rabies | i've been messing with it since i got my new video card |
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| 10:16.24 | Mr_Rabies | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaHFWo6179E&feature=youtu.be war thunder is really pretty at max settings |
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| 11:13.53 | mikma | mr_rabies: i would so end up only dropping planes in that game |
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| 11:59.00 | zenzelezz | landing in Warthunder is an exciting adventure the first few times |
| 11:59.17 | zenzelezz | not to mention speed-capping |
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| 12:10.01 | znf | hey Semlar |
| 12:10.03 | znf | where are my plates?! |
| 12:12.45 | startxkdm | WTB - WoW Linux Native client. . . |
| 12:24.29 | znf | Semlar, ow, did you see that? There's another thread about that :D |
| 12:28.52 | zenzelezz | ? |
| 12:33.32 | mikma | znf: link or it didn't happen |
| 12:40.02 | startxkdm | I suppose there wouldn't just by chance, be a way to do Superscript and Subscript text with Lua, is there? |
| 12:43.07 | zenzelezz | as in text formatting? (²) |
| 12:47.18 | startxkdm | Yes |
| 12:50.22 | zenzelezz | that's really more about WoW's capabilities I would assume; but either way I don't think there is a way (at least nothing simple) |
| 12:51.57 | startxkdm | That's what it was looking like googling it. I'll jst make a new frame with my "Superscript" text. |
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| 13:15.41 | kullervo | does someone have a program that can display the link topology and status of a routing setup? |
| 13:26.05 | zenzelezz | that sounds interesting; why do you want that? |
| 13:33.18 | startxkdm | That moment you had a great idea for an addon you're working on... which you very quickly forget what it was. /kick |
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| 13:47.40 | startxkdm | It seems designing your addon is much more difficult the scripting it's core functions |
| 13:48.44 | kullervo | zenzelezz: network management at lan parties |
| 13:50.21 | startxkdm | I thought Lan Parties were a thing of the past with the internet being so widely avaliable and with it's speeds |
| 13:50.54 | kullervo | startxkdm: there's more to it than just being online |
| 13:51.28 | startxkdm | Oh yeah, used to host them myself. Nothing big though, max of 10 people. |
| 13:51.44 | zenzelezz | kullervo: small or big LAN parties? |
| 13:52.02 | kullervo | zenzelezz: if they have enough routers to need a tool for network management, what do you think? |
| 13:52.34 | zenzelezz | you didn't say you *needed*; it could have been just for curiosity |
| 13:55.29 | mikma | lol this is bullshit |
| 13:55.42 | mikma | you can't misdirect into tank if (s)he has neural silencer on |
| 13:55.44 | kullervo | well nobody *needs* anything |
| 13:55.57 | kullervo | mikma: yeah and that's good and intended behavior of the item |
| 13:58.20 | Semlar | so i've had the same harrison jones quest about five times |
| 13:58.32 | Semlar | are you supposed to be able to ever complete this achievement on your own |
| 14:03.15 | kullervo | supposedly he offers the same quest for everyone? |
| 14:03.22 | kullervo | so it's just really bad rng in general |
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| 14:11.09 | Semlar | there is no way he offers a different quest every day if that's the case |
| 14:12.05 | Semlar | i have only gotten 2 of his 6 quests and i have had him in my garrison quite a few times |
| 14:14.17 | mikma | kullervo: eh |
| 14:16.43 | kullervo | mikma: some tanks might prefer hunters not to ninjapull with the excuse "BUT I USED MD!!11!" |
| 14:17.55 | startxkdm | Is this correct, trying to print the current Holiday in-game if there is one. http://pastebin.com/jmQm8JZk |
| 14:18.16 | mikma | kullervo: yes. in LFR that's an default option, but with guildinstances we usually md target and gather the bastards at him/her |
| 14:18.29 | startxkdm | It seems to be reading the day variable but being no holidays atm, can't really check |
| 14:25.07 | kullervo | mikma: then tell the tank to click the buff off |
| 14:29.06 | kullervo | if it's a guild raid he's supposed to trust you not to dick about |
| 14:35.26 | karl_w_w | so some family friends just came back from spending 2 years in india |
| 14:35.38 | znf | oh, Semlar replied! |
| 14:35.41 | karl_w_w | long story short, india is going to hell in a handbasket |
| 14:35.57 | Semlar | it would have to be a pretty big basket |
| 14:36.08 | znf | Semlar, should post screenshots! |
| 14:36.14 | Semlar | no |
| 14:36.30 | znf | :( |
| 14:36.36 | znf | but it's impossible! |
| 14:38.25 | Semlar | i hardly care to prove it |
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| 15:05.41 | startxkdm | Isn't there a way to delay/pause/wait for Xseconds |
| 15:08.18 | znf | Semlar, I have a video! |
| 15:10.41 | Semlar | i know |
| 15:11.16 | znf | you have my permission to post it! |
| 15:11.31 | Semlar | i don't wanna |
| 15:11.48 | znf | y u so mean? |
| 15:11.56 | znf | also, give your latest version with aura tracking! |
| 15:12.40 | Semlar | look, i don't want to tell people that what they're asking for is actually possible but they can't have it because i don't feel like working on it |
| 15:12.51 | Semlar | that doesn't help anyone |
| 15:13.01 | znf | You could actually post your code and let someone else work on it :) |
| 15:13.11 | znf | I don't mean to be rude, even though I guess I was. |
| 15:13.16 | znf | That was not my intention |
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| 15:14.23 | Semlar | posting a video of the addon is basically just taunting them |
| 15:17.18 | Semlar | anyway, like i said in my post, me being lazy is not the only reason i don't want to write it |
| 15:18.42 | Semlar | if it turns out blizzard does not want you to be able to do that it could have consequences that affect unrelated addons |
| 15:20.53 | Semlar | then it becomes my fault that something else doesn't work any more |
| 15:36.54 | znf | but you do make a good point - what does tabbing from target to target bring to the game, skill wise? |
| 15:58.10 | Constie | Is this that thing with nameplates getting moved to a specific location? |
| 15:58.43 | Semlar | yeah |
| 15:59.41 | Constie | They certainly appear to have been against that sort of thing in the past, at least. |
| 16:00.07 | Constie | Which I wish they wouldn't be. FF14 has enemy frames just like party frames, and it turns out that doesn't ruin the game at all. |
| 16:00.30 | Semlar | maybe, it's one thing to be able to create frames for arbitrary units whenever you want, but being able to list out the nameplates without being able to sort them in any way doesn't seem that bad |
| 16:01.24 | Semlar | we have boss frames |
| 16:03.33 | Semlar | what did the addons do that blizzard had a problem with |
| 16:05.45 | znf | Not to mention that nameplates are rather Volatile |
| 16:06.03 | znf | Once the target goes away from you, nameplate is reused |
| 16:06.17 | Semlar | that is an unfortunate aspect of having to use nameplates for this |
| 16:06.46 | Semlar | it would be interesting to have unit IDs for everything we were engaged in combat with |
| 16:07.14 | Semlar | like npc1, npc2, etc. |
| 16:07.26 | [TOM_RUS] | they should get rid of unitid completely |
| 16:07.34 | [TOM_RUS] | and just use unit guids for everything |
| 16:08.06 | Semlar | and how would you iterate over those |
| 16:08.51 | Constie | With gusto. |
| 16:14.23 | [TOM_RUS] | they can add a function that returns a table with unit guids for group etc, they have them stored internally anyway |
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| 16:23.37 | Arrowmaster | thats not cleaner to work with than unitids |
| 16:24.01 | Arrowmaster | it would make unitframes way more complex than they need to be |
| 16:29.40 | znf | <-- #1 Semlar fan |
| 16:31.49 | Semlar | :O |
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| 16:37.10 | [TOM_RUS] | Arrowmaster, but that will allow for a lot more flexibility |
| 16:37.27 | [TOM_RUS] | unitframes for anything you want... |
| 16:37.45 | Arrowmaster | and thats not what the game designers want |
| 16:38.01 | [TOM_RUS] | because they suck |
| 16:39.22 | znf | discrimination against dps! |
| 16:39.23 | znf | :( |
| 16:41.08 | [TOM_RUS] | I low how they hardcoded nameplates to always visible on map type 4 (is that arenas?) |
| 16:45.13 | znf | I just realized I paid $120 this year to Envanto on behalf of my clients and I didn't yet collect the money from them >_< |
| 16:49.44 | zenzelezz | "this year" as 2015, or last 12-ish months? |
| 16:50.53 | phelps | znf, I make a pretty regular $50 a month from CodeCanyon stuff |
| 16:51.01 | znf | Zeldo, 2015 |
| 16:51.02 | phelps | I feel bad about it tbh, the stuff is so old and bad |
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| 16:51.08 | znf | phelps, what you selling? :P |
| 16:51.17 | phelps | like I said, its bad and old |
| 16:51.20 | phelps | don't judge |
| 16:51.32 | phelps | http://codecanyon.net/user/benphelps/portfolio |
| 16:51.34 | znf | I could have sold some crap there, but I couldn't be arsed to make it user-friendly (and support users) |
| 16:52.21 | znf | ha, I actually made a now-playing for last.fm these days, too :D |
| 16:52.30 | phelps | I've wanted to rewrite the keygen class and make it a full key mngmt system, it'd sell a lot |
| 16:52.53 | phelps | thats outdated now, that API doesn't even exist now |
| 16:53.10 | phelps | s/d now,/d, / |
| 16:53.14 | znf | yeah, I know, they removed streaming completely |
| 16:53.54 | phelps | I mad that on commision and just had the rights to it after |
| 16:54.01 | phelps | for some radio blog |
| 16:54.21 | phelps | right to the class but not the wordpress plugin |
| 16:55.00 | znf | wordpress stuff sells like hotcakes |
| 16:55.04 | znf | but man, so many bad ones there |
| 16:55.18 | znf | I actually had to ask for a refund from someone |
| 16:55.43 | phelps | I made this stuff 5 or 6 years ago now |
| 16:55.55 | phelps | before I learned about MVC design |
| 16:56.15 | phelps | even though its using CodeIgniter, its so not MVC |
| 16:56.44 | phelps | I'm more of a Ruby/Rails dev now |
| 16:57.51 | znf | I'm surprised RoR devs are still out there :P |
| 16:58.03 | znf | a while ago you were hearing ruby to the left, ruby to the right |
| 16:58.10 | znf | it was the new hip thing to do, now, not so much |
| 16:58.18 | phelps | now its nodejs |
| 16:58.22 | phelps | angular |
| 16:58.37 | znf | right, nodejs is the crazy thing |
| 16:58.44 | znf | and I'm still looking at it like "wat?" |
| 16:59.18 | phelps | its nice but I like Ruby |
| 16:59.34 | phelps | http://vids.rip/ is a RoR project of mine |
| 16:59.56 | pompy | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:00.23 | pompy | its back |
| 17:00.38 | phelps | yeah prob just needed to spawn a proccess |
| 17:00.47 | znf | ffmpeg? |
| 17:01.01 | phelps | quvi and ffmpeg |
| 17:01.18 | znf | cool |
| 17:01.28 | phelps | was mostly just to see if I could send like encoding status back to the browser |
| 17:01.38 | phelps | and someone already did that work for me |
| 17:01.52 | phelps | https://github.com/streamio/streamio-ffmpeg |
| 17:03.10 | phelps | quvi supports a lot more than youtube, but they're buggy |
| 17:03.39 | phelps | liveleak links work I think |
| 17:04.22 | phelps | nah I broke it, haha |
| 17:08.31 | znf | I don't think you even need that these days, when most websites are streaming html5 |
| 17:24.14 | phelps | znf, yeah, the fun stuff I gotta work on still |
| 17:24.28 | phelps | downloading an entire playlist in mp3 |
| 17:25.13 | phelps | I'll make it nice and then sell it :p |
| 17:25.32 | phelps | someone on flippa.com will want it for sure |
| 17:28.41 | g0urra | I had no idea I had that much space http://puu.sh/gTdwP/cfbaed5f8f.png |
| 17:31.13 | Semlar | that's a lot of html |
| 17:41.35 | Arrowmaster | awesome i now owe a ton of money for ER visits I was told wouldnt cost me since I have no money, no income, and no healthcare |
| 17:44.02 | nebula169 | why would you think doing to the er would cost you nothing |
| 17:44.08 | nebula169 | going* |
| 17:47.31 | g0urra | yeah do you think you live in sweden or something |
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| 18:01.39 | Arrowmaster | because the hospital said they would right it all off |
| 18:04.26 | Shirik | I had to go to the hospital once for something insurance wouldn't pay for |
| 18:04.44 | Shirik | the costs were so cheap that when I didn't get a bill, I went to the hospital and asked where it was, and they said they wrote it off because it would cost more to send me a bill |
| 18:05.22 | Shirik | (blood type test) |
| 18:05.24 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 18:05.28 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 18:05.32 | Arrowmaster | well apparently the hospital did write it off, but the physicians on duty still sent me a bill for 1300 |
| 18:06.08 | Semlar | if they told you it wasn't going to cost anything they can't send you a bill for it |
| 18:07.39 | Semlar | can you imagine if it were legal for someone to give you something for free and then later decide they wanted to send you a bill? |
| 18:10.57 | [TOM_RUS] | does "NamePlateStlye" cvar even do anything besides crashing client? |
| 18:12.43 | Semlar | it's never used in the interface, so i doubt it |
| 18:20.39 | Semlar | there are a few nameplate cvars that don't actually do anything any more, if they ever did |
| 18:21.02 | [TOM_RUS] | it should add inherits="cvar_value" to all nameplate frames created by client, but it's crashing instead |
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| 18:30.35 | kd3 | grr. skylines lost my japanese parks |
| 18:34.44 | Arrowmaster | http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2015/03/27/religious-freedom-bill-passes-senate |
| 18:36.55 | Semlar | [TOM_RUS]: probably an unused feature they were thinking about implementing at some point |
| 18:37.58 | Semlar | have you tried creating a template that actually matches what the nameplate is supposed to look like |
| 18:38.49 | Semlar | it might work if it has all of the elements it's supposed to have |
| 18:40.15 | [TOM_RUS] | I only tried to create empty template with single OnShow event handler |
| 18:40.33 | [TOM_RUS] | may be it needs all elements, yes, who knows... |
| 18:42.50 | Semlar | it should probably at the very least be inheriting from a secure template |
| 18:43.54 | Semlar | i don't suppose they inherit from an existing template you can identify? |
| 18:44.27 | Semlar | or can you figure out where they get their default style |
| 18:47.15 | [TOM_RUS] | they create it on C++ side |
| 18:48.01 | [TOM_RUS] | http://paste2.org/fkBXxMtw line 122 they are trying to set template from cvar |
| 18:49.35 | [TOM_RUS] | also, it crashes in completely different place while trying to dereference null pointer |
| 18:50.09 | Semlar | is it because the cvar has a typo in it |
| 18:50.39 | Semlar | i guess if it's crashing when you set it, it must be doing something |
| 18:52.00 | [TOM_RUS] | no, it crashes when it creates nameplate |
| 18:56.13 | znf | What is Semlar breaking again? |
| 18:56.21 | Semlar | nothin |
| 18:56.28 | Simca_ | lol |
| 18:56.49 | Simca_ | they didn't change Beta LotV registry key lookup for license |
| 18:57.12 | Simca_ | if SC2 installed, drag and drop a map onto SC2Switcher.exe, grats you're playing beta |
| 18:57.36 | znf | :o |
| 18:57.38 | znf | Wair |
| 18:57.42 | znf | There's a beta? |
| 19:13.56 | Semlar | [TOM_RUS]: i can't even call SetCVar('NamePlateStlye') because it's read-only |
| 19:15.34 | [TOM_RUS] | Semlar, yep it's read only, but it's possible to manually add it to config.wtf before starting client |
| 19:16.02 | [TOM_RUS] | blizzard is stupid enough and not checking cvars in config |
| 19:16.30 | Semlar | well, it might just be something they don't want being changed while the game is running |
| 19:18.22 | Semlar | yeah i just get a memory error |
| 19:21.20 | Semlar | i tried making a generic template and it didn't help |
| 19:32.18 | [TOM_RUS] | Semlar, btw, you are right about it needing full template |
| 19:32.30 | Semlar | did you get it to actually work? |
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| 19:33.28 | [TOM_RUS] | no, but if ( !*(_BYTE *)(a1 + 1077) ) { } that thing is false if template is used, so it never executes default code |
| 19:34.41 | [TOM_RUS] | http://paste2.org/VZ4djsMk line 346 they set that var to true |
| 19:37.42 | [TOM_RUS] | they are actually looking for specific names in template, like CastBar, Elite, RaidTarget, BossTexture etc |
| 19:38.19 | Semlar | i see that, do you know if this is looking for key names or what |
| 19:38.54 | Semlar | i have no idea what the &v60 is |
| 19:39.40 | Semlar | like maybe the parentKey attribute |
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| 19:43.49 | [TOM_RUS] | that's some kind of compiled xml they are grabbing values from |
| 19:58.37 | [TOM_RUS] | I have a feeling it's just $parent>XXXXX< (frame name) they are looking for |
| 19:59.25 | znf | I'm still wondering what are you breaking :D |
| 20:00.13 | [TOM_RUS] | or not |
| 20:03.41 | Semlar | i tried $parentName and parentKey=name and neither one appeared to work |
| 20:04.04 | Semlar | although it could be a separate issue, it's hard to say since it just crashes with an access violation |
| 20:04.47 | Semlar | i didn't bother giving the textures and fontstrings any actual attributes |
| 20:14.14 | Primer | Semlarplates? |
| 20:15.33 | znf | Semlar, The Plate Master |
| 20:28.38 | Shirik | seriously though, being able to even get an access violation is a very serious issue |
| 20:28.41 | Shirik | you need to report that |
| 20:30.50 | Semlar | well, i have a feeling you aren't supposed to be trying to use this cvar |
| 20:32.48 | znf | Shirik, you shouldn't be able to crash the game by setting a "MONOCHROME" outline to a font, either, yet it's been happening since... forever? :P |
| 20:36.12 | fewyn | sigh |
| 20:36.17 | fewyn | i get to call the cable compnay tomorrow |
| 20:36.26 | fewyn | new house is experiencing some annoying intermitten packet loss |
| 20:36.31 | fewyn | s/house/apartment |
| 20:37.42 | fewyn | been running a ping for the last couple hours |
| 20:37.43 | fewyn | Packets: Sent = 8246, Received = 8125, Lost = 121 (1% loss), |
| 20:38.03 | fewyn | the packet loss usually hapens for a good minute or so |
| 20:41.10 | zenzelezz | and it doesn't matter what you're doing; it doesn't happen to just some things? |
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| 20:56.06 | mikma | http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/27/8300753/here-is-ryan-reynolds-in-the-official-deadpool-costume |
| 21:07.49 | znf | hey Semlar |
| 21:08.54 | Semlar | hi |
| 21:09.05 | znf | Let's exploit nameplates |
| 21:10.19 | znf | you write the code, I stay and watch |
| 21:11.02 | Semlar | i have a cold |
| 21:11.17 | znf | :-( |
| 21:11.33 | znf | I have a boredom |
| 21:11.48 | Semlar | go watch vampire prosecutor |
| 21:13.13 | Neffi | no Semlar |
| 21:13.34 | Semlar | yes neffi |
| 21:13.52 | Semlar | this is non negotiable |
| 21:14.46 | Neffi | well I am negotiating |
| 21:14.50 | Neffi | what r u gonna do about it |
| 21:16.06 | Semlar | nothing |
| 21:16.35 | Neffi | ok then |
| 21:18.44 | Semlar | glad that's settled |
| 21:19.18 | Neffi | now onto the main attraction |
| 21:19.22 | Neffi | touches Semlar's butt. |
| 21:19.54 | Semlar | well this is awkward |
| 21:28.57 | mikma | no, it's getting rather interesting |
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| 21:41.01 | foxlit | http://www.scrollsoflore.com/warlock/masterplan-garona.png << this week on things I can't reproduce |
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| 21:44.02 | Semlar | foxlit: what, it trying to give garona experience? |
| 21:44.29 | foxlit | I don't know. maybe. |
| 21:44.45 | Semlar | or it putting the lower expected experience one first |
| 21:46.10 | foxlit | nah, its the xp projection for a presumably maxed group. |
| 21:46.34 | foxlit | I don't care about the sorting. |
| 21:46.55 | Semlar | can there be experience expected for a capped group though |
| 21:47.19 | foxlit | there should not be. |
| 21:49.34 | Semlar | it seemed like it was trying to give garona experience before i updated it, but that seems like it's been fixed |
| 21:51.40 | Semlar | well either that or it was only doing that right after i got her |
| 21:52.40 | Semlar | it was putting the experience missions above all of the resource/gold missions, which it normally doesn't do once you run out of people to level |
| 22:04.22 | foxlit | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/master-plan/tickets/417 |
| 22:10.28 | karl_w_w | whodathunk streaming video on your own lan would be so difficult |
| 22:10.36 | karl_w_w | only VLC does it easily |
| 22:11.19 | Primer | speaking of VLC, I need to replace some of my security cameras |
| 22:11.41 | Primer | and figure out if there's a way to stream a webm with my mosaic setup |
| 22:13.33 | Primer | because it'd be nice to only need a bookmark in a browser to watch it |
| 22:15.35 | karl_w_w | browsers will natively play x264 these days |
| 22:15.43 | Primer | not my stream it won't |
| 22:16.05 | Primer | I haven't tried it in a long time though |
| 22:16.19 | Neffi | I believe some foss browsers still lack h264 decode |
| 22:16.26 | Neffi | im pretty sure chromium does |
| 22:16.50 | karl_w_w | Jesus |
| 22:17.16 | Primer | Yes, my son? |
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| 22:34.44 | znf | karl_w_w, good luck livestreaming in a browser with html5 |
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| 22:35.09 | znf | html5 + live video == sucks to be you |
| 22:35.54 | znf | Yes, it's 2015 and there is still no cross-browser way to stream live video without flash. |
| 22:40.18 | Primer | The VLC people tell me there are standards for this, but there's no implementation |
| 22:44.07 | znf | If by standards you mean HLS... |
| 22:45.39 | Primer | Not sure if webm is the standard or just the format |
| 22:46.23 | Primer | or both |
| 22:46.47 | znf | WebM is just a container that holds VP8/VP9 and Vorbis/Opus |
| 22:47.54 | znf | or, for simplicity, it's a "video file format" :P |
| 22:52.14 | znf | Let me know if you find a way that works across browers (the modern ones, anyway, Chrome, Firefox, iOS and Android) |
| 22:52.33 | znf | Chrome on Android, obviously, not the old webview |
| 22:53.05 | Primer | well, I have an x264 mosaic stream going over http that works perfectly with vlc as the client :) |
| 22:53.18 | Primer | h.264 that is |
| 22:53.39 | znf | do it without vlc :P |
| 22:54.13 | znf | just native, in browser |
| 22:54.38 | Primer | I've tried to make webm streams, but it seems VLC wasn't up to the task at the time |
| 22:54.58 | znf | the only solution that seems to somewhat work is IceCast |
| 22:55.06 | znf | but it's experimental at best |
| 22:55.52 | Primer | well, I need to use vlc |
| 22:56.00 | Primer | because I'm making a mosaic from 6 cameras |
| 22:56.18 | znf | you can use vlc as a "server" (to push data to icecast) |
| 22:56.51 | Primer | ugh, that just means more CPU |
| 22:56.51 | znf | I would prefer if the streams be individual from the cameras, and arranged in the browser by css/javascript etc. |
| 22:56.55 | Primer | this already pegs the box |
| 22:57.04 | Primer | no you wouldn't |
| 22:57.07 | znf | don't re-encode, then? :) |
| 22:57.15 | Primer | because that takes up way more bandwidth |
| 22:57.42 | znf | oh, well, not sure what your bandwidth availability is, I tend to not think about those |
| 22:58.05 | Primer | I'm thinking more in terms of the client |
| 22:58.09 | Primer | I have 50m up |
| 22:58.31 | znf | most people around here have 100/100, so I tend to disregard that requirement :D |
| 22:58.56 | Primer | My stream also has sound |
| 23:00.00 | znf | plus, if you separate the streams, you could actually turn on/off the ones you don't care about (including sound channels). Further, transcoding the data with ffmpeg and intel quicksync would be even better :D |
| 23:00.13 | Primer | well, at least it did last time...seems 1 camera is just broken, another is locked in night mode, and sound isn't working |
| 23:00.58 | kullervo | Primer: sounds just like usual for most camera setups |
| 23:01.17 | znf | now you actually made me curious if I can pull this off |
| 23:01.23 | znf | with icecast |
| 23:01.23 | Primer | except for the fact that you need a dedicated client |
| 23:01.25 | znf | :-? |
| 23:01.35 | Primer | znf: I'll help you test if you want |
| 23:02.15 | znf | hmmm |
| 23:02.20 | znf | I have no idea where our camera is |
| 23:04.02 | znf | well, crap, we used to have a camera that supplied h264 |
| 23:06.38 | znf | yeah... I can't find it :D |
| 23:07.53 | Primer | I really hate pulseaudio |
| 23:08.13 | znf | we really need to re-organize our network, I can't find shit in here; but this damn weather doesn't allow us to work at our "data center" :-/ |
| 23:14.50 | Primer | well, one of the USB's camera's mic is working so perhaps it's a physical problem with the main mic |
| 23:15.00 | Primer | which is a condenser mic I have pointing to the outside of the garage |
| 23:15.08 | Primer | it can pick up people talking across the street |
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| 23:32.09 | znf | ok, got a camera! |
| 23:36.38 | zenzelezz | fetches his robe and wizard hat |
| 23:37.10 | znf | Oh. I was wondering why my server is slow |
| 23:37.24 | znf | I forgot we replaced the Xenon we had with something incredibly crappy just for the shit we run |
