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| 01:49.43 | jleclanche | http://i.imgur.com/GHbzZRK.png |
| 01:49.49 | jleclanche | jackpot |
| 01:49.52 | jleclanche | music roll + reins |
| 01:50.20 | kd3 | ! |
| 01:50.31 | jleclanche | I was just watching the cinematic thinking |
| 01:50.37 | jleclanche | "you know what'd be nice? exactly this." |
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| 03:20.55 | mckenziemc | fallen star defeated Eye of Cthulhu :o |
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| 03:39.44 | Neffi | Maybe I'm just tired, but my google-fu fails me. Where can I find nice looking simple HTML templates? Looking to make a prettified list of items |
| 03:40.39 | Neffi | Not full page templates. Actually just looking to replace a webserver's autoindex with something a bit prettier. |
| 03:46.54 | Simca | Maldivia: poke |
| 03:47.29 | Simca | Maldivia: when you're around, add 'sc2' as a potential NGDP URL |
| 03:47.47 | Simca | it poked its head up this afternoon |
| 03:52.43 | Semlar | all web development is just jquery now neffi |
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| 04:36.15 | kd3 | uh oh. the current ptr build is a release candidate and the toc is still wrong |
| 04:36.45 | kullervo | surely you've reported this issue |
| 04:36.50 | kullervo | instead of merely complaining about it here' |
| 04:36.50 | kd3 | yup |
| 04:36.57 | kd3 | sending another email now |
| 04:50.21 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/2015-03-19_06-50-17.png |
| 04:50.27 | kullervo | what's with this mission expiration |
| 04:52.44 | kullervo | some other exploration missions also have a ~4 month expiration |
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| 06:35.26 | znf | this guy's mother: http://i.imgur.com/HOklSkv.png |
| 06:35.54 | tz | __gc came in with lua 5.2 yeah? |
| 06:35.58 | tz | i.e. no WoW access |
| 06:40.22 | Neffi | tz: 5.1 has __gc, but only on metadata, not tables |
| 06:40.43 | Neffi | you can grab a newproxy(true), attach __gc to it, and store it in the table |
| 06:40.44 | Semlar | so meta |
| 06:41.16 | tz | interesting |
| 06:41.17 | Neffi | throws Semlar into the garbage |
| 06:42.06 | Neffi | % local t = { newproxy(true) }; getmetatable(t[1]).__gc = print; t = nil; collectgarbage() |
| 06:42.06 | yalb | Neffi: sandbox:1: attempt to call global 'newproxy' (a nil value); stack traceback:; sandbox:1: in main chunk |
| 06:42.13 | Neffi | %5.1 local t = { newproxy(true) }; getmetatable(t[1]).__gc = print; t = nil; collectgarbage() |
| 06:42.13 | yalb | Neffi: userdata: 0x1032998 |
| 06:42.17 | Neffi | tz: ^ |
| 06:42.31 | tz | ta muchly, was typing out something similar to get the idea :D |
| 06:51.58 | karl_w_w | http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-19/australias-plain-packaging-laws-are-a-success-studies-show/6331736 |
| 06:52.05 | karl_w_w | get rekt everybody else |
| 06:59.17 | tz | tyrannosaurus rekt? |
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| 07:20.28 | mckenziemc | till everybody switches to vaporizers |
| 07:20.47 | karl_w_w | erektile dysfunction |
| 07:21.08 | mckenziemc | i'm so sorry karl_w_w |
| 07:21.12 | mckenziemc | i didn't know |
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| 07:50.44 | znf | hmm |
| 07:50.54 | znf | I feel like I've spent the money on C:Sky for nothing |
| 07:50.57 | znf | I don't feel like playing it anymore |
| 07:57.13 | Kalroth | then you didn't spend it for nothing |
| 08:07.09 | karl_w_w | my name is berry allen and I am the fastest man alive |
| 08:11.40 | Mr_Rabies | man i ahven't seen this week's episodes |
| 08:24.17 | Maldivia | Simca: done -- I had a lot of other combinations, just not that one :D |
| 08:24.34 | Simca | woot |
| 08:25.13 | Simca | Mr_Rabies: you are missing out. crazy plot development this week |
| 08:26.20 | Mr_Rabies | man, i want some new genesis shit in the arrowverse, just to hear peoples' reactions |
| 08:27.47 | Mr_Rabies | i want something to cover mr. miracle that isn't JLU, basically :v |
| 08:34.35 | karl_w_w | yeah okay, that's not a dumb name |
| 08:34.51 | Mr_Rabies | what if i told you |
| 08:34.56 | Mr_Rabies | that he was the universe's best escape artist |
| 08:35.08 | Mr_Rabies | and he was also known as Scott Free |
| 08:36.15 | karl_w_w | I'd tell you that's a character TV doesn't need |
| 08:37.20 | Mr_Rabies | he's amazing |
| 08:37.23 | karl_w_w | DC really do have worse characters |
| 08:37.26 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 08:37.37 | karl_w_w | well, worse heroes |
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| 08:37.42 | karl_w_w | the villains might be better |
| 08:37.45 | Mr_Rabies | you wanna fight a comics nerd, the best way is to call out jack kirby characters as crappy |
| 08:37.50 | Mr_Rabies | :v |
| 08:38.06 | Mr_Rabies | you should probably give characters a chance instead of dismissing them on name alone |
| 08:38.32 | Mr_Rabies | mister miracle and big barda own |
| 08:38.42 | karl_w_w | I'm not dismissing him, I'm expecting him to be as bad as the ones I know about :P |
| 08:40.59 | Mr_Rabies | he's one of the quintessential jack kirby characters that basically anyone remotely interested in his work will probably love |
| 08:41.52 | Mr_Rabies | he's the son of the Highfather, but as a peace gesture, highfather and darkseid exchanged sons at one point, and eventually both sons wind up against darkseid in adulthood |
| 08:43.53 | Mr_Rabies | he's a genius escape artist that managed to escape from the shackles he was held in and darkseid's incredibly complex maze-like prison system. |
| 08:44.36 | Mr_Rabies | Darkseid's Female Fury Battalion winds up finding Scott after he breaks free, and his abilities draw the eye of their leader, Big Barda, who eventually falls in love with him and they basically start the first successful rebellion against darkseid |
| 08:44.44 | Mr_Rabies | then they wind up in connecticut |
| 08:44.46 | Mr_Rabies | :D |
| 08:45.18 | karl_w_w | connecticut? unlucky |
| 08:47.02 | Mr_Rabies | they're the type of characters that are so unique they don't really need revamps or reimaginings with time, just more stories |
| 08:47.26 | Mr_Rabies | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KypEs8uC3b4/TUrooEv6CSI/AAAAAAAACJ8/vQdHZFzy2rI/s1600/Mistermiracle10_01.jpg |
| 08:51.03 | Mr_Rabies | (most jack kirby characters are this way, they're ageless heroes with only minor maintenance over time, generally) |
| 08:54.50 | Mr_Rabies | (also i way prefer most of the iconic versions of dc characters to the marvel ones) |
| 08:56.49 | Mr_Rabies | dc benefits a lot by being older and by absorbing a lot of companies that fell along the way, like fawcett and charlton comics |
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| 09:22.06 | karl_w_w | meanwhile in australia http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-calls-bill-shorten-the-dr-goebbels-of-economic-policy-20150319-1m31vz.html |
| 09:22.45 | karl_w_w | maybe they'll reach fisticuffs like the ukraine parliament |
| 09:26.07 | Semlar | rabble rabble rabble |
| 09:26.29 | Constie | She said. |
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| 09:51.09 | znf | wtf karl_w_w http://i.imgur.com/DvoigQR.png |
| 10:01.27 | Kalroth | better autosave it |
| 10:06.07 | Constie | Is there a convenient way to get the time from now until an active DoT's next tick? |
| 10:08.10 | znf | Probably not |
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| 10:26.47 | nevcairiel | no |
| 10:26.56 | nevcairiel | not without tracking when it was applied and a bunch of factors |
| 10:27.12 | nevcairiel | or ticked last at least |
| 10:29.38 | Constie | That's what I thought. |
| 10:33.56 | karl_w_w | I thought it doesn't save unless you use a mod znf |
| 10:34.02 | karl_w_w | autosave* |
| 10:34.13 | znf | yes |
| 10:34.14 | znf | :P |
| 10:34.21 | znf | my mod wrecked my ssd space! :D |
| 10:35.40 | karl_w_w | hmm |
| 10:35.56 | znf | swapped mods anyway |
| 10:36.01 | karl_w_w | ah OK |
| 10:36.23 | karl_w_w | I was thinking, euro truck sim 2 autosaves every few minutes and doesn't overwrite |
| 10:36.44 | karl_w_w | had me worried, but it's only 100mb total |
| 10:37.44 | karl_w_w | though I guess all that has to save is truck position, company situation and job status |
| 10:44.18 | karl_w_w | I've nearly dried up this river pumping the water out of it |
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| 11:30.28 | karl_w_w | I've found this cim who works 1 km away from where he lives, and he is at home. But his car is parked 3 km away from either. |
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| 12:20.39 | karl_w_w | woo woo, 16mb skylines patch |
| 12:28.11 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:29.59 | karl_w_w | tughackles Fisker |
| 12:31.01 | Lopeppeppy | Is this a hugtackle daisy chain? |
| 12:31.18 | Lopeppeppy | hugtackles zenzelezz. |
| 12:34.13 | karl_w_w | so is combining different brand drives in the same NAS array a bad idea? |
| 12:34.34 | znf | ...when 1 out of 200 houses complain that taxes are too high |
| 12:34.35 | znf | what do we do? |
| 12:34.38 | znf | we bulldoze their house. |
| 12:35.30 | karl_w_w | or lower taxes |
| 12:36.44 | znf | 1 out of 200 |
| 12:36.47 | znf | bulldoze. |
| 12:37.12 | znf | All those who live in suburbs suffer higher taxes! |
| 12:37.17 | znf | either that or suffer living in the city |
| 12:37.19 | znf | bastards. |
| 12:37.41 | karl_w_w | you like making your people suffer :P |
| 12:38.13 | jleclanche | here's the thing that happens when you make XP an item: http://i.imgur.com/RNZ0zYS.png |
| 12:38.39 | znf | that happens when you have your bag fulls |
| 12:38.41 | znf | bags full |
| 12:38.46 | znf | it wasn't BoP before :D |
| 12:38.49 | jleclanche | im aware yeah |
| 12:38.55 | znf | you could sell it on the ah |
| 12:39.05 | jleclanche | wat |
| 12:39.20 | jleclanche | you mean like if you picked it up at lvl 100? |
| 12:41.06 | znf | no, if you had full bags, apparently back in the first weeks you could just keep it in your bags (didn't automatically apply) |
| 12:42.07 | znf | karl_w_w, my pop dropped to 143k :( http://i.imgur.com/uxCjbFw.jpg |
| 12:42.26 | karl_w_w | probably cos you're making them suffer |
| 12:42.55 | karl_w_w | not even giving them a decent transport system, what a monster |
| 12:43.18 | znf | my transport system is decent, ok?! |
| 12:43.20 | znf | they're barely using it! |
| 12:43.23 | znf | sons of bitches |
| 12:43.37 | karl_w_w | if it was decent they would be using it! |
| 12:43.40 | karl_w_w | and it would be free |
| 12:43.56 | karl_w_w | instead you have red roads everywhere |
| 12:44.07 | znf | that's because of trucks :P |
| 12:44.31 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/LfYpRBF.jpg |
| 12:45.40 | karl_w_w | why do those trucks have to travel so far to get to a train station? :P |
| 12:46.14 | znf | beats me, they have one closer |
| 12:46.57 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/eEPAYIk.jpg |
| 12:49.53 | karl_w_w | trains can't turn right onto the main line from that station |
| 12:50.21 | znf | still works! |
| 12:50.28 | karl_w_w | not as much |
| 12:50.45 | karl_w_w | it also looks like the roads to that station are smaller |
| 12:54.19 | znf | it's no highway! |
| 12:54.22 | karl_w_w | http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-03-18-cities-skylines-review |
| 12:54.32 | karl_w_w | reviewer is shit at city building, blames the game |
| 12:54.42 | znf | Oh! UPDATES! |
| 12:55.32 | karl_w_w | wow you catch on fast :P |
| 12:56.16 | znf | I kind of agree with the guy on the traffic issue |
| 12:57.16 | karl_w_w | that's because you're nearly as bad as him :D |
| 12:57.17 | znf | Traffic is dumb in the game. Sure, you can argue that "you should build better", but the rules of "building better" are not in accordance with how traffic works in real life; Game follows its own rules of how traffic flows, and they're out of touch with reality. |
| 12:58.11 | karl_w_w | if you have a whole freeway funnelling into 1 lane, you don't want what happens in real life over what happens in the game |
| 13:00.33 | znf | for example: http://i.imgur.com/UNqlOSQ.jpg |
| 13:00.40 | znf | the blow arrow traffic until the pink arrow traffic stops |
| 13:00.44 | znf | it has absolutely NO reason to stop |
| 13:00.45 | znf | yet it does |
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| 13:01.39 | znf | same shit with this: http://i.imgur.com/RBIoImj.jpg |
| 13:01.59 | znf | the blue arrow traffic is in the right-lane (should make a right turn) |
| 13:02.16 | znf | it has no way of intersecting with the purple traffic, yet the blue lane stops until purple passes |
| 13:03.13 | Simca | it's a just-released game, i wouldn't be surprised if the majority of what you've described are bugs |
| 13:03.50 | karl_w_w | the first one the intersections are too close together znf |
| 13:04.11 | znf | what defines "too close"? |
| 13:04.20 | znf | it should flow freely. |
| 13:04.35 | karl_w_w | the game is coded to keep intersections clear |
| 13:04.47 | karl_w_w | if the space they are going into is small they won't go into it |
| 13:04.58 | znf | they go sometimes... |
| 13:05.03 | karl_w_w | if there's other vehicles there |
| 13:05.18 | karl_w_w | different vehicles need different amounts of space |
| 13:05.25 | karl_w_w | so sometimes they dont sometimes they do |
| 13:05.49 | znf | bad traffic is bad; the traffic is buggy; so he makes a valid point, no matter how you try to defend it :P |
| 13:06.04 | karl_w_w | that's not a bug |
| 13:06.12 | karl_w_w | maybe it's a design limitation |
| 13:06.16 | karl_w_w | but it is working as intended |
| 13:06.26 | karl_w_w | which means you can build around it quite easily |
| 13:06.28 | znf | it's working stupid |
| 13:06.45 | znf | if at least they could have figured out how fuckin' roundabouts work... |
| 13:09.28 | sb | znf, complaning about games since 1994! :| |
| 13:10.50 | znf | I have some gripes about it. |
| 13:11.03 | znf | but traffic is an issue that gets brought up too often |
| 13:11.41 | znf | and the in-game tools are lacking, too; thank fuck for moders - does it surprise anyone that the most popular mod tool is the one that allows you to convert roads from one-way to two-way? |
| 13:11.59 | sb | there are mods? |
| 13:12.20 | sb | http://thebests.kotaku.com/the-8-best-cities-skylines-mods-1692018691 |
| 13:12.21 | sb | isee |
| 13:12.22 | znf | yes |
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| 13:12.31 | karl_w_w | that mod has been implemented znf |
| 13:12.33 | znf | that's what it's saving the game :P |
| 13:13.24 | sb | ah, steam mods, thats nice |
| 13:15.04 | sb | 15000 items :o |
| 13:17.02 | znf | 90% are recolors of buildings that are already in game |
| 13:17.07 | znf | some tards like to spam them |
| 13:17.12 | znf | and never actually categorize them >_< |
| 13:20.32 | znf | Crap. It crashed my video driver again. |
| 13:20.37 | znf | I should look into that. |
| 13:21.17 | sb | get a new GPU |
| 13:21.28 | znf | I can't afford one now! |
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| 13:51.52 | Ackis | why doesn't this work - "sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" shouldn't sudo be used for both commands? |
| 13:52.36 | haste | no |
| 13:53.22 | karl_w_w | sudo isn't used for anything |
| 13:53.23 | haste | it's basically: run command X and if it succeeds, run command Y |
| 13:53.29 | karl_w_w | sudo is the one doing it :P |
| 13:53.41 | haste | sudo apt-get update is command X in this case |
| 13:54.40 | Ackis | that makes sense |
| 13:54.54 | Fisker | you need sudo in both |
| 13:55.01 | Ackis | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade works - is there a syntax where I only need one sudo? |
| 13:55.11 | Fisker | You could su |
| 13:55.15 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis! I just opened the last bag of toothpicks I bought for you that once upon a time.... :) |
| 13:55.19 | Fisker | But I don't know if that works the way you intend it |
| 13:56.29 | haste | Ackis: echo 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' | sudo -s -- |
| 13:56.37 | haste | Ackis: you probably want -y upgrade tho' |
| 13:57.27 | Fisker | that's hax haste |
| 13:57.38 | Constie | Please don't hax. |
| 13:59.27 | karl_w_w | Battlefield Hardline: "They wanted to create Law & Order, and came out with Bad Boys." |
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| 14:33.47 | alestane | Oof! |
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| 15:45.39 | Fisker | is left unpounced |
| 15:46.14 | Simca | smacks Fisker with kittens |
| 15:46.25 | Fisker | wee kittens |
| 15:46.32 | Fisker | transfers the kittens to Cairenn |
| 15:48.02 | Cairenn | snuggles the kittens |
| 16:25.35 | karl_w_w | heats up the pot |
| 16:25.44 | karl_w_w | chuck 'em in Cairenn! |
| 16:25.52 | Cairenn | nooooooo |
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| 16:30.22 | Ressy | time to chuck karl_w_w in instead |
| 16:32.18 | Fisker | grabs his legs |
| 16:38.29 | kd3 | bleh. the worst part of getting dental work done is the numbing agent wearing off |
| 16:38.30 | kd3 | >.< |
| 16:39.11 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:40.22 | Stanzilla | that is always funny |
| 16:41.01 | Fisker | I think it's worse when it's still there |
| 16:41.16 | amm4108 | does anyone have any experience with making editboxes for add-ons? |
| 16:43.00 | haste | you might want to ask a more specific question |
| 16:44.02 | amm4108 | I'm trying to make an editbox, and from what I can tell I have things correct, but when I run the add-on I get an error with it trying to access editbox in the blizzards frame.lua |
| 16:45.58 | amm4108 | here's the exact error http://pastebin.com/5zucGm0w |
| 16:46.40 | foxlit | have you read it? |
| 16:47.23 | foxlit | -> looked at the code throwing it? |
| 16:47.37 | foxlit | -> figured out why your code triggers that code? |
| 16:48.17 | foxlit | -> figured out what framexml wants and doesn't get from you? |
| 16:49.25 | amm4108 | that's what I'm trying to figure out. Heres the code that throws the error http://pastebin.com/9FhW6D2W |
| 16:49.41 | amm4108 | I can't figure out what framexml wants that I'm not giving it |
| 16:50.06 | foxlit | that's not the code that throws the error. |
| 16:50.15 | foxlit | s/the e/that e/ |
| 16:50.35 | amm4108 | When I comment that part out I don't get the error anymore |
| 16:51.55 | Fisker | My feet are cold foxlit |
| 16:57.48 | Ressy | kd3: https://twitter.com/Zorbrix/status/578600307141189632 |
| 16:58.06 | kd3 | saw, favorited it. tsquared responded last night too |
| 16:58.12 | Ressy | I saw that one.. |
| 16:58.17 | Ressy | He said he didn't know if he could fix |
| 16:58.35 | Fisker | Weird |
| 16:58.35 | Ressy | figured zorbrix could since he runs like everything for ptr. lol |
| 16:58.58 | kd3 | eh. at least they know |
| 16:59.01 | Ressy | nods |
| 17:00.07 | Constie | All thanks to Ressy. |
| 17:00.59 | Ressy | nope. kd3 |
| 17:01.39 | Fisker | All thanks to zorbrix |
| 17:10.07 | karl_w_w | http://www.konami-digital-entertainment.co.jp/en/news/release/2015/0304/?cm_sp=01-_-release-_-20150304-e |
| 17:10.10 | karl_w_w | that missing name |
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| 17:59.17 | Ackis | bleh |
| 17:59.48 | karl_w_w | when x is null, what languages will return "false" to "if x == false"? |
| 17:59.54 | karl_w_w | is it the majority? |
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| 18:05.43 | Neffi | omg! http://i.imgur.com/MGKpdM9.webm |
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| 18:22.46 | fewyn | the pool is nice and cool |
| 18:23.01 | fewyn | i'd totally float on a pool like that in the summer |
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| 18:40.40 | karl_w_w | wow I think this might actually be true |
| 18:41.01 | karl_w_w | the reason MS skipped windows 9 |
| 18:41.34 | fewyn | what? |
| 18:41.37 | karl_w_w | is because bad programmers check if the OS name starts with Windows 9 to check for 95 and 98 |
| 18:41.40 | fewyn | yes |
| 18:41.45 | fewyn | it's a reason |
| 18:41.57 | fewyn | doubt it was the only reason though |
| 18:42.26 | fewyn | https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2i14ny/if_osnamestartswithwindows_9/ |
| 18:43.52 | karl_w_w | https://searchcode.com/?q=if%28version%2Cstartswith%28%22windows+9%22%29 |
| 18:53.50 | Ressy | kd3: New build |
| 18:54.07 | Fisker | right channel |
| 18:54.07 | Fisker | :3 |
| 18:54.15 | Ressy | yeah |
| 19:04.50 | Simca | I just played Consortium and it is amazing. time travel, alternate realities, murder mystery, doesn't get more simca-relevant than that |
| 19:09.10 | Fisker | I miss Lopeppeppy |
| 19:13.39 | Primer | Simca: I've decided I'm going to fork my own Astrolabe. I'm tired of waiting. |
| 19:14.22 | Primer | I'm unsure what's the best way to do this. Should I put it on github and reference that URL in pkglist? |
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| 19:20.53 | Stanzilla | or hardembed it |
| 19:21.24 | Stanzilla | both is fine for external libs |
| 19:22.23 | Primer | You mean svn add Libs/Astrolabe? |
| 19:22.30 | Primer | Yes, my addon's still on svn |
| 19:22.39 | Primer | At least that one is, my other one is git. |
| 19:31.34 | fewyn | so i just heard google is shutting down google code? |
| 19:31.40 | fewyn | that's an interesting move |
| 19:31.51 | fewyn | everyone should move to github anyways |
| 19:34.10 | jnwhiteh | there are tools to help that |
| 19:34.16 | jnwhiteh | its been phased pretty reasonably |
| 19:34.48 | fewyn | trying to remember if anything i use really is still on google code |
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| 19:57.15 | fewyn | so csi: cyber this week a killer is using zogo (uber) to kill people |
| 19:57.46 | fewyn | seems semi realistic |
| 19:59.50 | g0urra | 14 disguises later http://puu.sh/gH73Y/28de8552b4.jpg |
| 20:04.46 | Stanzilla | Primer: yeah with svn you probably have to hardembeded it |
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| 20:04.49 | Stanzilla | aka just put the file in |
| 20:05.02 | Stanzilla | also let it be known that jnwhiteh probably hates you for it :D |
| 20:08.07 | Simca | or convert to git |
| 20:08.35 | Primer | Stanzilla: I'm not using his fork, as that's still broken |
| 20:09.33 | Primer | He's got a bug reported against TomTom too |
| 20:09.52 | Primer | There's always the fork of his fork... |
| 20:10.36 | Arrowmaster | i still dont understand why so many us recruiting firms are outsourced to india, so hard to understand them at times |
| 20:10.49 | Primer | That's racist! |
| 20:11.10 | Arrowmaster | its accurate |
| 20:11.44 | Arrowmaster | had to ask this guy to repeat the city of the job and the pay rate 4 times |
| 20:15.13 | jnwhiteh | Primer: no one is clear abotu wtf is wrong |
| 20:15.17 | jnwhiteh | people suck at reporting bugs |
| 20:15.29 | jnwhiteh | I'd love to fix shit |
| 20:15.39 | jnwhiteh | but everyone just wants to give me files without telling me what the hell is going on |
| 20:15.43 | jnwhiteh | it is maddening |
| 20:16.28 | Dagmar | It's not that "so many" of them are doing this. |
| 20:16.45 | Primer | jnwhiteh: talk to Simca |
| 20:16.46 | Dagmar | It's that the _bad ones_ that make a lot of cold-calls and just spew resumes at HR staffers do |
| 20:16.52 | Primer | he seems to have it all figured out |
| 20:17.15 | Primer | jnwhiteh: https://trac.policymap.com/projects/policymap/wiki/bookmarks |
| 20:17.17 | Primer | err |
| 20:17.20 | Primer | nm that |
| 20:17.26 | Primer | jnwhiteh: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/astrolabe/#c29 |
| 20:17.30 | Primer | stupid Linux paste buffer |
| 20:18.20 | jnwhiteh | Primer: and this fixes one bug: the garrison map UI error |
| 20:18.23 | jnwhiteh | correct? |
| 20:18.52 | Primer | It has for me |
| 20:18.53 | jnwhiteh | Simca: have you incremented the minor revision or changed the major |
| 20:18.59 | jnwhiteh | is there anything anyone has done? |
| 20:19.21 | Primer | jnwhiteh: well, the wow-guides people forked your fork and put it in github :) |
| 20:19.31 | jnwhiteh | oh for fuck's sake. |
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| 20:19.33 | Primer | with their own fix, which does the same thing |
| 20:19.40 | Semlar | forks jnwhiteh |
| 20:19.41 | jnwhiteh | what the fuck is wrong with people |
| 20:19.46 | Primer | scroll up on that URL I linked |
| 20:19.49 | Primer | to the top comment |
| 20:19.49 | jnwhiteh | someone shoudl just properly fork the god damned thing. |
| 20:20.07 | jnwhiteh | Primer: its not in my scrollback, which link? |
| 20:20.12 | jnwhiteh | ah okay |
| 20:20.16 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 20:20.21 | jnwhiteh | I'm not using a fork of a fork of a fork |
| 20:20.22 | jnwhiteh | that's just assinine. |
| 20:20.46 | foxlit | the intersection of people using the library, people capable of writing code, and people with time to actually play wow seems to be empty. |
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| 20:20.55 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: indeed. |
| 20:22.33 | jnwhiteh | Simca: if I fork the repo and add you and ludo as contributors |
| 20:22.37 | jnwhiteh | can we do something not insane? |
| 20:23.02 | Primer | I bet Simca hides |
| 20:23.07 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: well ive had 3 this week that were cold calls from indian recruiters, one was for a job in CA im not qualified for, one resulted in me getting a one day project tomorrow, and the last one i just got looks like its for a decent full time position at good pay rate |
| 20:23.13 | Semlar | yeah he's probably avoiding you |
| 20:23.22 | Simca | i'm here now |
| 20:23.26 | Semlar | no, shh |
| 20:23.28 | Simca | it's cool, i won't be insane |
| 20:23.33 | Semlar | don't listen to him |
| 20:24.51 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 20:24.53 | jnwhiteh | well its being forked |
| 20:25.01 | jnwhiteh | github.com/jnwhiteh/astrolabe |
| 20:25.06 | jnwhiteh | for better or worse |
| 20:25.13 | foxlit | hm, ptr realms are down |
| 20:26.20 | foxlit | and here I was wanting to do some cost-free follower ability rerolls :( |
| 20:28.10 | jleclanche | foxlit: what do you need ability rerolls for? |
| 20:28.18 | jleclanche | i have a few free ones on alts i dont care about |
| 20:28.19 | jnwhiteh | Simca: PM me your github name |
| 20:28.57 | jnwhiteh | anyone have LudovicusMajor's gtalk or other contact info? |
| 20:29.32 | Stanzilla | I can probably leak you his email address |
| 20:30.25 | Stanzilla | let's make this a riddle: it's his name at a internet company that starts with g and dot com |
| 20:30.29 | Stanzilla | HARD ENOUGH?! |
| 20:31.32 | foxlit | jleclanche: Tuulani starts with a group damage counter that is not accessible to her spec |
| 20:31.50 | Semlar | cheating! |
| 20:31.53 | Simca | Stanzilla: so his email is fredfredburger@gigglepoetry.com right? |
| 20:32.00 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 20:32.03 | Stanzilla | god damnit |
| 20:32.03 | foxlit | I want to know whether she can reroll into that counter, or if its gone forever once you reroll. |
| 20:32.06 | Stanzilla | now everyone knows |
| 20:32.06 | jnwhiteh | Simca: done |
| 20:32.16 | jleclanche | foxlit: whats the counter? |
| 20:32.21 | jnwhiteh | Simca: open a pull request with your changes and we'll tag Ludovicus and get this resolved? |
| 20:32.23 | jleclanche | the name |
| 20:32.45 | Semlar | prayer of healing |
| 20:33.26 | Semlar | silly shadow priest |
| 20:35.00 | Stanzilla | oh right, the new openssl is out now |
| 20:36.11 | Stanzilla | https://github.com/openssl/openssl/blob/OpenSSL_1_0_2-stable/CHANGES |
| 20:36.53 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: we have trailing whitespace in LibStub |
| 20:36.55 | jnwhiteh | this makes me cry |
| 20:36.56 | jnwhiteh | I should fix. |
| 20:37.05 | jnwhiteh | =) |
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| 20:37.28 | Primer | FORK IT! |
| 20:37.42 | Stanzilla | I blame Kaelten |
| 20:37.43 | jnwhiteh | I'm a committer to the repository |
| 20:37.45 | jnwhiteh | because i helped write it. |
| 20:38.09 | jnwhiteh | so that's a thing |
| 20:38.18 | Stanzilla | jnwhiteh: also jnwhiteh does this mean the death of DongleStub in my addon folder, that would be sad |
| 20:38.24 | Stanzilla | wow double names |
| 20:38.26 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 20:38.32 | jnwhiteh | I'm making that change now |
| 20:38.34 | Stanzilla | a minute of silence please |
| 20:38.45 | jnwhiteh | I made it, I can kill it =) |
| 20:38.55 | Stanzilla | that was only 12 seconds :( |
| 20:39.39 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 20:39.46 | jnwhiteh | it deserved so much more |
| 20:40.14 | Simca | at least 18 seconds |
| 20:42.47 | foxlit | jleclanche: http://www.wowhead.com/follower=205/soulbinder-tuulani << prayer of healing |
| 20:43.02 | jnwhiteh | why are these hyphen blocks 110 chars wide |
| 20:44.58 | Stanzilla | last changed: 8 years ago |
| 20:45.03 | Stanzilla | maybe it was a trend back then! |
| 20:47.05 | jnwhiteh | gah DongleStub lives for another day |
| 20:47.07 | jnwhiteh | I just can't be arsed. |
| 20:47.10 | Simca | foxlit: http://www.wowhead.com/follower=97.2/hayli-hallowsend#abilities "only from inn/tavern" listed for one of the abilities? |
| 20:47.18 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 20:47.24 | jnwhiteh | I'll write a new library instead of this |
| 20:47.52 | Simca | http://xkcd.com/927/ |
| 20:48.21 | nevcairiel | what evilness did donglestub do that you still need it =p |
| 20:48.29 | jnwhiteh | nothing, actually |
| 20:48.39 | jnwhiteh | its just that the stuff that is being done on activation is convoluted |
| 20:48.46 | jnwhiteh | it was never meant to be used like this |
| 20:48.52 | Stanzilla | there is the guy we own this dilemma too |
| 20:48.54 | Stanzilla | lazycairiel |
| 20:48.57 | jnwhiteh | and tearing that logic apart |
| 20:49.01 | jnwhiteh | *shudder* |
| 20:49.05 | nevcairiel | i'm too busy playing games |
| 20:49.08 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: PM me your github creds |
| 20:49.11 | nevcairiel | lots of d3 and hots to be had! |
| 20:49.13 | foxlit | a bunch of timed battle counters weren't supposed to be timed battle counters and cannot roll randomly. |
| 20:49.24 | Simca | oh joy |
| 20:49.50 | foxlit | presumably wh collects follower data and can verify that they still roll as first ability on inn recruits |
| 20:53.15 | Simca | that is a very large assumption |
| 20:53.24 | jnwhiteh | while we're working on HereBeDragons we'll make a new version of astrolabe |
| 20:53.27 | Simca | last I checked they didn't even record loot data for half the important WoD items |
| 20:53.30 | jnwhiteh | to fix the outstanding issues |
| 20:57.09 | Stanzilla | already a better love story than twilight |
| 20:57.24 | Arrowmaster | gah |
| 20:57.52 | Arrowmaster | damn recruiters cant seem to read a resume, called me back asking for information thats on there |
| 20:58.05 | Simca | Bodar's comment to astrolabe is interesting: "Blizzard has changed the constant WORLDMAP_WORLD_ID to WORLDMAP_AZEROTH_ID." |
| 20:58.17 | Simca | I can confirm that WORLDMAP_WORLD_ID returns nil now |
| 20:58.25 | Simca | and it is used in 5 locations in Astrolabe code |
| 20:58.34 | Simca | so, it's likely none of those spots are working right |
| 20:59.50 | Simca | there is a bunch of fun nil comparison errors that will cause |
| 21:00.43 | mikma | jnwhiteh: HereBeDragons? :D |
| 21:00.51 | Simca | amazing name |
| 21:01.06 | zenzelezz | mikma: it's one of those addons you'd better avoid |
| 21:01.16 | zenzelezz | don't know what kind of trouble you could get into |
| 21:01.40 | mikma | zenzelezz: you've sticked your dick in it, didn't you |
| 21:04.37 | Simca | Stanzilla: new CLOG hype |
| 21:04.44 | Stanzilla | just saw |
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| 21:04.46 | Stanzilla | anything interesting? |
| 21:05.14 | Stanzilla | probably sc2 beta prep |
| 21:05.30 | Simca | yes |
| 21:05.36 | Simca | s2b added as NGDP |
| 21:05.50 | Simca | Maldivia: s2b - monitor plox. <3 |
| 21:06.20 | Stanzilla | is HS already casc? |
| 21:06.34 | Simca | nope |
| 21:06.38 | Maldivia | Simca: already on my list :) |
| 21:06.44 | Simca | hero |
| 21:06.49 | Stanzilla | so it's the only game remaining after this sc2 beta |
| 21:07.00 | Simca | yep |
| 21:07.09 | Simca | but they barely use MPQ |
| 21:07.19 | Stanzilla | yeah should be easy |
| 21:07.42 | Simca | and I doubt CASC code has ever been tested outside windows/mac |
| 21:07.47 | Stanzilla | what I really want is a 64bit client for D3 :< |
| 21:08.27 | Maldivia | Simca: 13 known ngdp paths now :D |
| 21:09.14 | Stanzilla | Maldivia: do you send mails for prometheus yet? |
| 21:09.16 | haste | CASC? |
| 21:09.20 | Stanzilla | if so, I didn't get any :p |
| 21:09.20 | Maldivia | Stanzilla: ofcourse |
| 21:09.48 | Stanzilla | oh I lied |
| 21:09.49 | Stanzilla | got one |
| 21:09.58 | Maldivia | latest was 6 days ago |
| 21:10.22 | Stanzilla | that is weird |
| 21:10.26 | Maldivia | I'm counting 26 mails regarding overwatch so far :) |
| 21:10.36 | Stanzilla | last email containing it was on 25th of feb |
| 21:10.48 | Simca | you're watching pro and prodev both, right? |
| 21:10.53 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 21:11.26 | Stanzilla | weird, why didn't I get that |
| 21:11.37 | Maldivia | Stanzilla: spam filter? |
| 21:12.03 | Stanzilla | can't be, your stuff is whitelisted and labelled |
| 21:14.01 | Maldivia | Stanzilla: gotten any mails today -- sent 5 |
| 21:14.16 | Stanzilla | yes, all 5 |
| 21:15.49 | Simca | jnwhiteh: https://github.com/jnwhiteh/astrolabe/pull/1 |
| 21:15.49 | Stanzilla | Maldivia: nevermind, I'm retarded |
| 21:15.59 | Stanzilla | should have searched for "pro" instead of "prometheus" |
| 21:16.43 | Maldivia | :) |
| 21:18.16 | Stanzilla | Simca: now that I think of it, could that constant change be one of the performance problems? |
| 21:18.31 | Stanzilla | because it tries to find the maps on login |
| 21:18.50 | Stanzilla | or what does MapMonitor do exactly |
| 21:22.32 | Semlar | keeps track of what maps are visible, like the world map or the battleground map |
| 21:22.37 | Semlar | so it knows not to change the map |
| 21:22.41 | g0urra | player passed out in raid, raid leader: "there's 30 minutes left, keep going" |
| 21:23.22 | Semlar | well, did you need him? |
| 21:24.56 | g0urra | yes, I needed myself. |
| 21:26.06 | Semlar | did you pass out |
| 21:30.10 | Semlar | did you pass out again? |
| 21:44.36 | Stanzilla | new ptr build is out, let's pray for tocs |
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| 21:48.17 | Mr_Rabies | i marked kd3's thread for sticky just in the hopes that a moderator might run it to devs sooner than later |
| 21:49.00 | Stanzilla | they know about it |
| 22:01.00 | Stanzilla | Zorbix says it should be in |
| 22:01.06 | Stanzilla | waiting for kd3 mails to confirm |
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| 22:15.10 | kullervo | loving that legendary ring follower quest |
| 22:15.23 | kullervo | got global muted on my guild's mumble when doing it |
| 22:16.47 | Stanzilla | why? raged a lot? |
| 22:17.30 | zenzelezz | or bragging |
| 22:19.03 | mikma | anal spam |
| 22:19.18 | kullervo | goddamn buggy-ass encounter |
| 22:19.30 | kullervo | the follower running off to melee the mobs and aggroin everything |
| 22:19.32 | zenzelezz | sounds like Stanzilla was on the money |
| 22:19.48 | Mihau | Possibly guild people not wanting some asshole spoiling it for them. |
| 22:19.59 | kullervo | not much to spoil |
| 22:20.00 | zenzelezz | reminds me of Neverwinter Nights. "Ok, I'm going to sneak around here while..." "HERE COMES HALFLING DEATH!" |
| 22:20.01 | Stanzilla | kullervo: the getting garona part? |
| 22:20.02 | kullervo | it's an annoying stealth mission |
| 22:20.06 | kullervo | Stanzilla: yeah |
| 22:20.13 | Stanzilla | kullervo: get invited to another realm |
| 22:20.16 | Stanzilla | all the mobs despawn |
| 22:20.17 | kullervo | I didn't roll a tank so I'd have to stealth |
| 22:20.37 | Stanzilla | but it isn't that hard! |
| 22:21.28 | Stanzilla | you can't tank anything there btw |
| 22:21.41 | kullervo | I know, goddamn khadgar |
| 22:21.42 | Stanzilla | you have to kill a mob before it finishes the "alarm" cast |
| 22:21.45 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 22:21.48 | kullervo | tried to aerial assault too |
| 22:21.55 | kullervo | "NOOO FUCK YOU YOU'RE NOT DOING THAT WTF YOU THINKING ABOUT" |
| 22:21.57 | Stanzilla | like I said, get invited xrealm |
| 22:22.06 | kullervo | and I did that already |
| 22:22.15 | Stanzilla | did they fix it? |
| 22:22.17 | kullervo | the mobs can be oneshotted though, and CCd, which helped |
| 22:22.18 | fewyn | oh god it's a stealth mission? |
| 22:22.24 | fewyn | i fucking hated the rogue legendary quest |
| 22:22.28 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 22:22.32 | kullervo | and regular interrupt works too |
| 22:22.32 | Stanzilla | you will have fun |
| 22:22.35 | kullervo | and stuns |
| 22:22.40 | Stanzilla | so many people in my guild failed and raged on it |
| 22:22.42 | fewyn | i never wanted to do it again :( |
| 22:23.20 | kd3 | re the legendary stealth quest: https://twitter.com/KageSatsuki/status/575479576983248896 |
| 22:24.24 | kd3 | is waiting for the bnet app to finish 'initializing...' and actually download the damned ptr build |
| 22:24.33 | fewyn | lol |
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| 22:25.14 | kullervo | kd3: yeah that's when I got muted |
| 22:25.17 | kullervo | the exact moment |
| 22:25.44 | kullervo | I didn't even know I was capable of such elaborate curses |
| 22:29.07 | Primer | jnwhiteh: have you decided whose fix for the missing map data in your fork of astrolabe is going to be used or are you going to let Simca and that other dude duke it out? |
| 22:29.44 | kd3 | the toc's fixed |
| 22:29.44 | Primer | because I've already updated my changelog and .pkgmeta :) |
| 22:31.16 | kd3 | emails away |
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| 22:56.08 | pompy | http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/innovation/faa-gives-amazon-permission-test-prime-air-drones-n326766 |
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