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| 00:02.51 | Iriel | I wonder if companies like that have a âmaybe they wont noticeâ attitude, or just dont care |
| 00:04.46 | g0urra | so subtle http://puu.sh/gC25f/61db62e235.jpg |
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| 00:09.51 | Dagmar | China _loves_ intellectual property |
| 00:14.36 | g0urra | "Black dragon King", "Gul'dan's Breath".. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q5tYoKLQgw |
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| 01:16.47 | znf | I'm always amazed how bad "enterprise" software is designed to be installed/configured |
| 01:16.57 | znf | I'm playing with a netflow analyzer |
| 01:17.06 | znf | 30 minutes later, I still haven't figured out how to change the port it listens to |
| 01:17.48 | foxlit | maybe they expect you do something entirely weird and alien |
| 01:17.49 | tz | that's because they expect you to pay for "services" which means they configure stuff for you and charge like wounded bulls |
| 01:17.59 | foxlit | like read the documentation. |
| 01:18.33 | znf | I read it... |
| 01:18.35 | znf | there's nothing in it |
| 01:18.46 | znf | tz, what's the point of a "free demo" then? >_< |
| 01:18.48 | Simca | that is the best type of documentation |
| 01:19.02 | znf | heck, their docs are wrong |
| 01:19.05 | znf | Type the URL address as http://<hostname>:8090 (where <hostname> is the name of the machine on which NetFlow Analyzer is running, and 8090 is the default web server port) |
| 01:19.20 | znf | while their ./run.sh script says: Check webServerPort http value : 8888 https Port : null |
| 01:20.02 | znf | also, checking for listening ports, it doesn't listen on that |
| 01:21.03 | tz | I used to work at one of those companies |
| 01:21.16 | tz | the documentation is necessarily obtuse so that you pay for services |
| 01:21.27 | tz | that's the entire model, and it's fucked in the head |
| 01:21.28 | znf | I tried changing it (it was 8080 default), but... |
| 01:22.04 | znf | tz, I'm not sure how that works for them - if I would be working for another company and I would have to find a solution for this issue, if I couldn't be able to figure out why their crap doesn't start in demo mode, why would I even consider it...? |
| 01:22.08 | znf | I would dismiss it right away |
| 01:22.33 | znf | If you provide a demo and your instructions don't work, what fate do I have in the rest of your product? |
| 01:23.58 | Dagmar | Computer Associate's "Spectrum" network managemnet/analysis software is no better |
| 01:24.26 | Dagmar | Last time I dealt with them, their install ISO had _symlinks_ for shared libs necessary to the install in the filesystem |
| 01:24.38 | Dagmar | Those _don't work_ in an ISO filesystem |
| 01:24.53 | znf | Also, not to mention that I configured their service as to their instructions |
| 01:25.18 | znf | and while I downloaded the 32bit binary, they ship a wrapper that is... 64bit |
| 01:27.20 | tz | that's the thing, when you're talking multi-million-dollar software, you walk in with a preinstalled demo and presales engineers, such that they don't even need to do an installation in the first place |
| 01:27.33 | Iriel | Dagmar: Doesnât that sort of general experience apply to pretty much everything CA gets their hands on? |
| 01:27.37 | tz | management loves that shit |
| 01:28.10 | znf | tz, then what's the point of providing a a download link and instructions? |
| 01:28.11 | znf | meh |
| 01:28.17 | tz | they don't :D |
| 01:28.25 | znf | will have to look for another thing to test |
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| 03:24.31 | znf | karl_w_w, http://i.imgur.com/Y1Iu9f7.jpg |
| 03:31.54 | znf | OH MY GOD karl_w_w! http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=408209297&searchtext= |
| 03:35.21 | Thunder_Child | I really rather dislike that you can name a movie with the exact same name as an existing movie. |
| 03:38.27 | znf | movie?! |
| 03:50.21 | Thunder_Child | znf: Yes. Why the suprise? |
| 03:50.36 | Thunder_Child | surprise* |
| 03:51.54 | znf | What are you talking about? :D |
| 03:53.07 | Thunder_Child | What exactly was unclear? |
| 03:54.05 | fewyn | ugh i'm jealous a friend of mine just had invincible drop |
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| 04:01.00 | znf | Thunder_Child, what movie(s) are you talking about? |
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| 04:05.56 | znf | ...I started a Win7 VM that I haven't run in ages |
| 04:06.03 | znf | it's been doing windows updates for the last 30 minutes |
| 04:06.06 | znf | and it's not even halfway done |
| 04:06.47 | Thunder_Child | The Avengers in this case. |
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| 04:13.11 | karl_w_w | there are some movie titles given to many many movies |
| 04:13.19 | karl_w_w | like a christmas carol |
| 04:14.38 | Thunder_Child | If it's a remake, I'm roughly ok with it, but if they have nothing to do with each other, I think they could use a little more imagination. |
| 04:15.03 | znf | well, blame it on the 1998 movie... |
| 04:15.11 | znf | The Avengers have been "the avengers" for more than that :D |
| 04:15.51 | karl_w_w | HA! |
| 04:16.48 | karl_w_w | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Avengers_%28TV_series%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avengers_%28comics%29 |
| 04:16.52 | karl_w_w | beaten by 2 years |
| 04:17.35 | karl_w_w | also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Avengers_%281950_film%29 :P |
| 04:18.12 | znf | Would be a shame to not reuse a name from the 1950s |
| 04:44.21 | znf | Wonder if we will see video cards with USB Type-C ports |
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| 05:23.25 | Thunder_Child | A Comic != Movie. |
| 05:45.05 | karl_w_w | A TV Series != Movie |
| 05:46.38 | znf | I still don't see your point |
| 05:46.47 | znf | Why would I not name a movie after my comic book the same way? |
| 05:48.43 | Thunder_Child | Because it was already used for a different movie. |
| 05:50.06 | znf | So? What's your name? |
| 05:50.43 | Mr_Rabies | this anime |
| 05:50.59 | Thunder_Child | My full name is unique actually. |
| 05:51.46 | Mr_Rabies | http://41.media.tumblr.com/02cb0479f0da59764a0d05ee630d0d99/tumblr_mf3dcvCQMg1qgni4wo1_1280.png |
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| 06:06.45 | karl_w_w | http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/18/article-2027361-0D7A223C00000578-598_306x433.jpg Mr_Rabies? |
| 06:24.21 | karl_w_w | if you give dancer to a follower who already counters danger zones and then put them on a mission with 2 danger zones do they counter 1 and a half? |
| 06:27.27 | karl_w_w | answer: yes |
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| 07:57.25 | nebula169 | pfft, it was from another country, who cares, this is murica |
| 07:59.04 | NuSuey | btw searching for a cheap .. $15 itunes gift card.. any idea where I could get that? (hate being in europe and most of the american stuff is not available to me :X) |
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| 08:05.41 | karl_w_w | cheaper than $15? |
| 08:06.26 | NuSuey | +/- |
| 08:07.33 | karl_w_w | amazon? |
| 08:09.31 | NuSuey | amazon isnt accepting digital goods.. so the sellers needs to actually send the card to you (which adds shipping cost o.O) |
| 08:16.13 | Gnarfoz | Amazon accepting goods? what are you talking about |
| 08:17.37 | Gnarfoz | and the solution to your US problem is called VPN |
| 08:18.55 | NuSuey | ..well you are talking about something completely different |
| 08:19.53 | NuSuey | " it is against Amazon's terms to send the gift card code over a message or email." |
| 08:25.45 | karl_w_w | if all you want is the credit why don't you just buy things on iTunes |
| 08:40.05 | NuSuey | sigh.. |
| 08:40.10 | znf | because he probably can't |
| 08:40.23 | znf | ie: region locked |
| 08:40.37 | znf | like, for example, I can't buy a spotify UK subscription, even trough a VPN :P |
| 08:40.41 | NuSuey | znf: yup, exactly |
| 08:41.18 | znf | Because it won't accept payment methods from different countries, not even paypal. I tried getting a gift card, failed at that, too. So I just freeload like a bitch. |
| 08:42.32 | rid_ | :( |
| 08:42.52 | NuSuey | yup. depressing story |
| 08:42.58 | NuSuey | :/. |
| 08:43.51 | NuSuey | maybe I'll find some weird site which sells those, hopefully I won't get scammed or something >.< |
| 08:46.07 | NuSuey | don't want to offtopic anymore..and disturb you guys |
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| 08:51.37 | rid_ | there's eur gift cards tho |
| 08:51.47 | rid_ | in like every supermarket |
| 08:51.57 | rid_ | you want it digital? |
| 08:53.25 | znf | NuSuey, https://www.giftcloud.com/uk these guys should be legit, but I wasn't able to actually get one |
| 08:53.33 | znf | rid_, probably he wants US because $reasons |
| 08:53.40 | znf | also, having to get out of the house... |
| 08:54.03 | rid_ | getting out of the house vs struggling for hours getting a digital one |
| 08:54.04 | rid_ | :D |
| 08:55.17 | NuSuey | damn, znf .. cant load the site because of a really shitty proxy at work .. are there us gift cards or just uk? |
| 08:55.30 | znf | NuSuey, let me see |
| 08:57.03 | znf | NuSuey, oh, sorry, US only |
| 08:57.05 | znf | erm, UK only |
| 08:59.39 | karl_w_w | if they make it this hard for you to buy music, just pirate it |
| 08:59.54 | karl_w_w | then save the money and spend it going to see your favourite artists live |
| 08:59.59 | karl_w_w | they get more money that way |
| 09:00.19 | rid_ | http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=c517d838eb7d07bbe9507871fab3931deccff539 |
| 09:00.27 | rid_ | oops |
| 09:00.36 | NuSuey | you can't get this nowhere >.< so.. cant..but |
| 09:01.03 | NuSuey | even so..thanks for your help and suggestions...don't want to offtopic this channel anymore.. |
| 09:01.03 | rid_ | :( |
| 09:01.07 | NuSuey | - bad nusuey.. baaad |
| 09:05.06 | znf | not like we have anything better to do :D |
| 09:05.30 | NuSuey | OKAY..then.. FIND ME STUFF! |
| 09:05.32 | NuSuey | >.< |
| 09:05.52 | karl_w_w | I don't remember the last time this channel was ON topic |
| 09:06.13 | karl_w_w | I mean I'm sure it was in the last day, but it's not like it matters :P |
| 09:06.42 | Constie | #skylines |
| 09:06.47 | rid_ | tackles Fisker |
| 09:10.50 | NuSuey | seems .. that buying the DVD + shipping (12+5euro) equals to buying a 15$ gift card (which I can mostly find for ~ 18$) .. which is ~ 17-18 euros :X |
| 09:13.44 | znf | Constie, this is #skylines, yes |
| 09:18.57 | Fisker | tackles rid_ |
| 09:19.52 | rid_ | hey |
| 09:28.34 | Fisker | hey |
| 09:41.16 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogf05dtTS-s VIad |
| 09:56.22 | karl_w_w | Groan http://imgur.com/MQd1mRx |
| 09:58.45 | rid_ | NuSuey: send someone to a store |
| 10:01.28 | rid_ | he should send you a photo of a card |
| 10:01.28 | rid_ | well, of the code |
| 10:05.25 | NuSuey | rid_: ah bought one via kinguin .. but damn.. 20% tax because of EU :X so.. mission accomplished |
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| 10:44.01 | karl_w_w | There's a suburb in Perth called Menora |
| 10:44.14 | karl_w_w | 3 guesses what suburb you go to if you want a good bagel |
| 10:44.25 | karl_w_w | that's right, Dianella |
| 10:47.10 | rid_ | never had a bagel in my life |
| 10:47.12 | rid_ | ever |
| 11:12.19 | Gnarfoz | do you not regularly live in the EU, NuSuey |
| 11:12.36 | Gnarfoz | (also, other countries also have taxes) |
| 11:12.37 | NuSuey | my whole life.. but the 20% tax increase is new .. |
| 11:12.49 | Gnarfoz | what tax? |
| 11:12.52 | NuSuey | because of some EU laws |
| 11:13.07 | Gnarfoz | do you mean the changed VAT rules |
| 11:13.41 | NuSuey | this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_value_added_tax |
| 11:14.44 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 11:14.55 | Gnarfoz | do you mean the 2015 change in VAT rules |
| 11:15.03 | NuSuey | +1 |
| 11:15.04 | nevcairiel | The change is annoying |
| 11:15.47 | Gnarfoz | so... which Amazon did you order from before 2015 that exists in a country that doesn't have VAT at all? |
| 11:16.03 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:34.41 | Fisker | I agree with foxlit |
| 11:44.59 | Gnarfoz | I agree with nevcairiel |
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| 12:39.37 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:40.56 | rid_ | :( |
| 12:44.00 | Fisker | hugtackles rid_ |
| 12:44.07 | rid_ | :) |
| 12:44.08 | rid_ | good |
| 12:44.19 | rid_ | sup Fisker |
| 12:44.23 | rid_ | had a relaxing weekend? |
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| 12:47.23 | Fisker | what weekend? |
| 12:48.01 | znf | this weeke |
| 12:48.02 | znf | nd |
| 12:48.43 | Fisker | Don't recall having it |
| 12:48.45 | Fisker | maybe saturday |
| 12:48.58 | karl_w_w | znf, apparently there are differences between density |
| 12:49.28 | karl_w_w | low density tends towards having families, while high density tends to have young adults |
| 12:49.45 | rid_ | :( |
| 12:50.36 | znf | oh well |
| 12:57.41 | karl_w_w | also, if you zone a lot of residential at once, you get a baby boom |
| 12:58.01 | karl_w_w | which later leads to a wave of death and a lot of pressure on deathcare |
| 12:58.43 | karl_w_w | I lost 7k population yesterday found out it was cos I didn't have enough deathcare, but nobody was ready to complain about it |
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| 13:01.49 | Simca | deathcare? |
| 13:02.03 | Simca | like grave digging and funeral homes and stuff? |
| 13:02.33 | karl_w_w | crematoriums and cemetaries |
| 13:02.44 | karl_w_w | they send out hearses to collect dead bodies |
| 13:03.13 | karl_w_w | if a hearse doesn't arrive in time the people in the building start complaining |
| 13:03.35 | karl_w_w | and if it takes too long they'll just abandon the building :P |
| 13:06.29 | Simca | virtually everyone dies at a hospital |
| 13:06.36 | Simca | (irl) |
| 13:06.41 | rid_ | > virtually |
| 13:07.27 | karl_w_w | that wouldn't be much of a challenge though Simca :P |
| 13:07.28 | Simca | i guess i've never really thought about what happens if the person is super obviously dead with no chance of revival |
| 13:07.42 | Simca | (what happens to the body) |
| 13:07.49 | karl_w_w | just put a crematorium next to each hospital is not compelling gameplay :P |
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| 13:29.32 | Lopeppeppy | There is a whole set of staff and procedures for when death happens in a hospital, and when death happens elsewhere (home, accidents, etc.) |
| 13:31.00 | Torhal | ...or when a death happens at the hands of a rampaging Lopeppeppy? |
| 13:31.35 | Lopeppeppy | I apologize profusely for any inconvenience my murderous rampage may have caused. |
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| 13:32.03 | Torhal | :O |
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| 15:12.37 | karl_w_w | if MTV and VH1 are all reality shows now, what's the main channel that actually plays music? :P |
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| 15:30.53 | Constie | Does UNIT_AURA also fire when auras are refreshed, and not just first applied or removed? |
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| 15:34.42 | karl_w_w | why don't you refresh one and find out? :P |
| 15:35.43 | Constie | Maybe someone else did that just now. I'm being efficient. |
| 15:44.12 | Constie | And/or I could be testing wrong. But things seem to be working as if it does. |
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| 16:06.41 | Arrowmaster | got a strange call about a job |
| 16:07.12 | Arrowmaster | guy didnt really seem to know what he was doing and basically offered me a job first thing |
| 16:08.58 | Arrowmaster | and it didnt seem to phase him when i said one of my previous pay rates was $18/h |
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| 16:19.05 | Gnarfoz | *faze :D |
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| 16:19.34 | Gnarfoz | (yeah yeah it's easier to be a grammar nazi if it's not your first language) |
| 16:22.53 | Arrowmaster | hmm trying to find more info about the hiring firm and not finding much |
| 16:23.00 | Arrowmaster | only one employee on linkedin |
| 16:23.07 | Arrowmaster | not on glassdoor |
| 16:23.44 | karl_w_w | why would that faze him Arrowmaster? |
| 16:24.27 | Arrowmaster | i wasn't sure what the job was for and some of the stuff i get called about is offering so low its insulting |
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| 16:26.50 | karl_w_w | ah so it's good cos he didn't that was too high? |
| 16:27.10 | karl_w_w | it's hard to judge, our minimum wage is $16.50 or something like that |
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| 16:27.44 | Arrowmaster | well for this job being 1.5 hours away from me and being a hands on pc replacement job $18 is good |
| 16:28.27 | karl_w_w | fun fact, there are no jobs 1.5 hours away from me :P |
| 16:29.15 | karl_w_w | to travel 1.5 hours would put me outside of places with civilization |
| 16:29.23 | karl_w_w | unless I drove in circles |
| 16:29.50 | Arrowmaster | fun fact, i drive 1.5 hours just to goto a bar |
| 16:33.16 | karl_w_w | alcohol abuse is a big problem |
| 16:33.39 | Arrowmaster | i dont drink that much there |
| 16:34.00 | Arrowmaster | i go for the people and events |
| 16:34.38 | Unkle | News Flash: I drive 1.5 hours to work because goddamned traffic is a Boss Level Encounter |
| 16:34.54 | Arrowmaster | thats CA though |
| 16:35.19 | Arrowmaster | my 1.5 hour drives are on the highway through the fucking middle of nowhere |
| 16:35.27 | Unkle | I can |
| 16:35.40 | Unkle | I can't help it that you choose to live in OH. |
| 16:36.02 | Arrowmaster | i would move if i could |
| 16:44.45 | Torhal | WAT https://github.com/lhartikk/AstroBuild |
| 16:46.08 | pompy | what |
| 16:46.56 | Arrowmaster | lol i heard about that |
| 16:48.27 | kd3 | hahahaha |
| 16:49.13 | rid_ | what |
| 16:49.39 | pompy | http://www.stjarnhimlen.se/comp/ppcomp.html some srs shit right there, lol |
| 17:11.53 | Thunder_Child | Heh, planets aligning is an error. |
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| 17:15.48 | pompy | *NEW FOR 2015* Emails containing bar codes to claim badges will be sent immediately upon purchase. All tickets will be sent to both the purchaserâs email address as well as the email address assigned to a ticket. |
| 17:17.11 | Arrowmaster | oh bah, this job is just a pilot test of their deployment, not long term |
| 17:17.20 | Fisker | so basically you have to get the visitor details right the first time? |
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| 17:17.49 | Arrowmaster | you have until august to change them |
| 17:19.53 | pompy | yeah, august 14 |
| 17:20.46 | Fisker | So why send the barcodes right away? |
| 17:20.58 | Fisker | other than the fact that it's just a 5 digit number but still |
| 17:40.36 | foxlit | ssh, Fisker. Next you'll be asking "What is so magical about August 14th?" |
| 17:41.10 | Fisker | What's magical about it? |
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| 17:56.19 | Stanzilla | jnwhiteh: other addons are now starting to use your Astrolabe fork |
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| 18:12.24 | mukunda_ | what is difficultyID for ENCOUNTER_START for a mythic raid? |
| 18:14.27 | Semlar | 16 i think |
| 18:17.11 | mukunda_ | thanks |
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| 18:45.36 | mukunda_ | how can i get the target of "boss1"? |
| 18:48.31 | Shirik | does boss1target not work? |
| 18:49.27 | mukunda_ | i didnt know the name thanks |
| 18:50.18 | Shirik | I hate to be blunt here but that kinda implies you didn't do any research |
| 18:50.53 | karl_w_w | because astrolabe is forked |
| 18:50.55 | karl_w_w | amarite?! |
| 18:51.02 | karl_w_w | guys? |
| 18:52.11 | mukunda_ | tbh the keyword boss1target didnt come up anywhere |
| 18:52.43 | Shirik | literally every site I know of that describes the wow api also links to a page where it describes how unit ids are formed |
| 18:54.16 | Shirik | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitName has a link to http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api_types#unitID ; http://wow.gamepedia.com/API_UnitName goes to http://wow.gamepedia.com/API_TYPE_UnitId ; http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitName has a link to http://www.wowwiki.com/API_TYPE_UnitId ; wow |
| 18:54.22 | Shirik | remove the last wow |
| 18:55.05 | Fisker | wow |
| 18:55.09 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 18:55.14 | karl_w_w | wow Fisker |
| 18:55.20 | Fisker | Hey Shirik |
| 18:55.23 | Shirik | why so wow? |
| 18:55.42 | mukunda_ | im fairly new and not familiar with what to search for, which in this case i see that i probably wanted to search for unitid |
| 18:55.56 | Shirik | no you didn't, you wanted to search for what you were using |
| 18:56.04 | Shirik | you shouldn't call a function without reading its documentation |
| 18:56.09 | karl_w_w | and now you have brought the wrath of Shirik down on all of us |
| 18:56.12 | Thunder_Child | Calm down Shirik. |
| 18:56.29 | karl_w_w | only the flying spaghetti monster can save us now |
| 18:56.38 | Shirik | finite state machine |
| 18:57.51 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: Just imagine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EmDrive on a drone. |
| 18:57.53 | mukunda_ | im not even calling a function yet, i started with the idea of getting the boss target, i started with searching for a function to get the unit target, and i figured i could use "boss1" but clearly thats not how this works |
| 19:02.14 | mukunda_ | i understand that it was an easy question, but rather than answering it directly and telling me to do more research i would appreciate just being pointed to relevant information about something so i can do said research, its hard when im not familiar at all with an api |
| 19:04.57 | mukunda_ | sorry if that sounded like im retorting, really its just hard when you're first starting out with something |
| 19:06.48 | Semlar | tries to calm shirik down |
| 19:06.50 | Shirik | All I noticed was that you asked two questions back-to-back which google answered immediately. For your former one, I typed "difficultyID" into google, which led me to http://wow.gamepedia.com/API_GetRaidDifficultyID which has a link "See GetDifficultyInfo for a list of possible difficultyIDs." which says 16. Mythic |
| 19:07.08 | Shirik | but I'm probably being a little bitchier than normal |
| 19:09.31 | Thunder_Child | s/probably// |
| 19:11.02 | mukunda_ | is wow.gamepedia the most upto date resource? wowprogramming.com didnt have the new difficulty numbers |
| 19:11.42 | Gethe | they are both up to date on different things |
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| 19:12.04 | Constie | The most up-to-date API reference is Semlar. Ask him anything. |
| 19:14.46 | mukunda_ | i hate that there isn't official documentation, same with Valve where you have to dig through wikis and existing code to get info about the source engine |
| 19:14.52 | Semlar | that doesn't sound right |
| 19:15.41 | Stanzilla | Simca: I'm currently trying to level some pets from sub 10 to 10, what's the best way to do that atm? |
| 19:16.47 | Simca | asksemlar.com |
| 19:17.43 | Simca | Stanzilla: several pet battles vs high level tamers. use two 25s and one lvl 1 |
| 19:18.08 | Stanzilla | ok so just some random trainer in draenor |
| 19:18.14 | Stanzilla | got a suggestion for an easy one? |
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| 19:21.28 | fewyn | what's today's trader? |
| 19:21.30 | fewyn | anyone know |
| 19:22.31 | Thunder_Child | Simca: The problem with asksemlar.com is the adverts. Periodically you get popup ad rants for no reason. |
| 19:23.25 | Simca | Stanzilla: SMV and talador are both very easy |
| 19:23.32 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 19:23.33 | Stanzilla | thanks |
| 19:23.49 | Simca | talador because her pets are all one type and SMV because one of her pets is a plushie who does nothing |
| 19:24.25 | fewyn | today is fur trader |
| 19:24.33 | fewyn | wish there was an addon that put this on the calendar or something |
| 19:25.15 | Semlar | well, there's a set rotation right |
| 19:25.25 | Semlar | does anyone know what it is yet |
| 19:25.48 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/WarcraftDevs/status/572471380022726657 |
| 19:25.49 | fewyn | yeah |
| 19:26.31 | Semlar | how do harrison jones and saurfang factor in |
| 19:26.58 | fewyn | each character gets a chance to get saurfang or jones or the trader or that other one |
| 19:27.21 | Semlar | so you can't really know what's going to be next |
| 19:27.23 | fewyn | so everyone has fur trader today in NA i think |
| 19:27.32 | Semlar | well i had saurfang so |
| 19:27.34 | fewyn | everyone who has trader gets the fur one |
| 19:28.20 | Semlar | if i HAD a trader it would be the fur trader? |
| 19:28.22 | karl_w_w | then it doesnt actually follow order cos they can be skipped :P |
| 19:28.24 | fewyn | yes |
| 19:28.25 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 19:28.39 | fewyn | except it's region wide karl_w_w |
| 19:28.42 | Semlar | so i basically missed the fur trader in the rotation? |
| 19:28.51 | Simca | on that toon, yeah |
| 19:28.53 | fewyn | you could visit other peoples garrison |
| 19:28.56 | Simca | ^ |
| 19:28.57 | fewyn | and use their trader |
| 19:28.59 | Semlar | interesting |
| 19:29.06 | fewyn | which a lot of people do |
| 19:29.10 | fewyn | (including me) |
| 19:29.29 | Simca | that's why knowing which one should be up is useful even if you don't have it |
| 19:29.37 | Semlar | do you know if it's the order they have listed here ore/dust/fur/leather/herb |
| 19:29.48 | fewyn | yep |
| 19:29.50 | fewyn | that's the order |
| 19:29.51 | karl_w_w | exactly fewyn, so when everyone else is having ore and you get saurfang, you miss ore |
| 19:29.59 | fewyn | exactly |
| 19:31.00 | Simca | yeah it's just not really relevant karl_w_w since there are groups up in group finder constantly for it |
| 19:31.05 | Simca | it doesn't really matter what you have |
| 19:31.44 | Semlar | you could add it to the calendar, but i don't know if you can detect whether you're on a US or EU server reliably still |
| 19:32.08 | Semlar | assuming they're different |
| 19:32.20 | karl_w_w | GetCurrentRegion ? |
| 19:33.21 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure all of the functions like that were wrong if you used an eu client to log into a us server, but maybe not |
| 19:33.39 | Simca | i think that one is new and does not have the same problem now |
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| 19:34.09 | karl_w_w | it just returns 1 for me |
| 19:34.29 | Semlar | because USA is #1 |
| 19:34.43 | Constie | USA! USA! |
| 19:34.44 | Simca | ah no, you're right Semlar. it is flawed if you are on a US client |
| 19:35.06 | karl_w_w | USA isn't a region |
| 19:35.07 | Simca | though, that's probably only true if you logged in manually. if you login via battle.net it would probably be right |
| 19:35.09 | karl_w_w | USA! USA! |
| 19:35.31 | Semlar | right enough |
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| 19:38.16 | Semlar | alright there are a million calendar functions |
| 19:39.23 | karl_w_w | so only look for 1 of them at a time and you'll be sure to find it |
| 19:40.23 | Semlar | ooor you could just fake it when someone opens the calendar |
| 19:40.31 | Semlar | and not save them as real events |
| 19:42.24 | karl_w_w | well you know that million to one chances are guaranteed to succeed |
| 19:42.33 | karl_w_w | so you're in luck |
| 19:43.35 | Semlar | it's a million to one chance.. |
| 19:47.45 | karl_w_w | but it might just work |
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| 20:03.49 | Semlar | it won't let you create an event for a time that's already past :| |
| 20:04.34 | Unkle | fuck your institutional memories, Semlar! ONLY THE FUTURE IS IMPORTANT! |
| 20:05.20 | Semlar | :( |
| 20:05.54 | Unkle | (I agree. Calendars which don't allow for adding of past dates are useless for memory purposes.) |
| 20:08.13 | Torhal | Boozamahol is useless for memory purposes, Unkle. |
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| 20:19.28 | zenzelezz | heh... "Computer science: 'in low level languages like C'. Computer engineering: 'in high level languages like C'" |
| 20:20.20 | bshelden | Sounds about right |
| 20:29.37 | Unkle | Torhal: Wrong. Boozmahol is for destroying memory. |
| 20:30.12 | Unkle | Torhal: And making new, hazy, shame and regret filled ones. |
| 20:30.15 | Fisker | Hey Unkle |
| 20:30.35 | Unkle | Sup, Fisker? |
| 20:30.52 | Fisker | Hey is hey |
| 20:31.06 | Fisker | Don't need to sup it |
| 20:31.36 | Unkle | I will sup whomever, whenever I want. I am a being of freewill and few principles. |
| 20:32.03 | Fisker | Didn't say you couldn't |
| 20:32.07 | Fisker | Said you didn't need to |
| 20:43.35 | Thunder_Child | Sup harder Unkle. |
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| 20:56.36 | Semlar | fewyn: http://semlar.com/addons/DayTrader.zip might work most of the time |
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| 21:02.56 | Torhal | Semlar: Most of the time? |
| 21:03.05 | Torhal | Your level of confidence is amazing. |
| 21:03.12 | Semlar | i'm not even sure it'll work tomorrow |
| 21:03.27 | Torhal | So literally for a Day? |
| 21:03.35 | Semlar | it should definitely work today, in the US |
| 21:04.13 | Semlar | i didn't factor in the region or the fact that it probably doesn't reset until the daily quest reset time |
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| 21:07.15 | kd3 | haha, wow. "Please review the attached flyer for career opportunities with the FBI." |
| 21:07.16 | kd3 | I think not |
| 21:18.30 | kd3 | grr, I've got umpteen bazillion cemeteries and crematoriums and they still can't freaking keep up |
| 21:18.45 | Semlar | stop killing people kd3 |
| 21:19.16 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 21:19.38 | fewyn | feed the corpses to your homeless population |
| 21:19.41 | fewyn | problem solved |
| 21:23.06 | Semlar | that's quite a modest proposal |
| 21:41.49 | Thunder_Child | kd3: Still because of the traffic issue? |
| 21:42.53 | znf | kd3, up the budget! |
| 21:43.47 | znf | my city's budgets are enormous for the crematorium/hospitals :-/ |
| 21:43.49 | znf | easily ~80k |
| 21:43.52 | kd3 | budget's already maxed. I just spammed some more crematoriums |
| 21:44.06 | kd3 | looks like they finally got ahead of the curve |
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