| 00:02.35 | Stanzilla | "We will be making Source 2 available for free to content developers." |
| 00:02.36 | Stanzilla | buce |
| 00:02.38 | Stanzilla | *nice |
| 00:04.31 | Mr_Rabies | bruce* |
| 00:06.04 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:06.39 | znf | your followers are just that effective :D |
| 00:07.14 | znf | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/guild/kazzak/Furious_Wrist/roster?view=achievementPoints&name=&minLvl=1&maxLvl=1&race=&class=5&rank= |
| 00:07.18 | znf | Never going to change it. |
| 00:07.41 | Mr_Rabies | where'd they announce that, Stanzilla? :o |
| 00:09.46 | kd3 | whee. already at upgrade 2/4 on the alchemy trinket |
| 00:10.03 | Mr_Rabies | regardless i hope source 2 is better than source 1 was for developing games/mods |
| 00:11.41 | Primer | I've yet to see this alchemy trinket |
| 00:12.22 | kd3 | http://www.wowdb.com/items/122602-stone-of-the-earth |
| 00:13.39 | Primer | ugh, versatility? Really? |
| 00:14.36 | Primer | Are there any classes where versatility is not the bottom or second to the bottom secondary stat? |
| 00:14.45 | kd3 | yah, I'm a bit disappointed by that too, but after multistrike, the rest of the secondaries are about equal for frost mages |
| 00:15.56 | Stanzilla | Mr_Rabies: https://steamdb.info/blog/source2-announcement/ |
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| 00:46.37 | Stanzilla | http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/03/freak-flaw-in-android-and-apple-devices-cripples-https-crypto-protection/ |
| 00:46.39 | Stanzilla | not again T_T |
| 00:47.36 | bshelden | weeeee |
| 00:52.19 | Stanzilla | heh, wowhead is vulnerable |
| 00:58.54 | kd3 | oops, they undid the toc change on the ptr |
| 00:58.57 | kd3 | back to 60000 |
| 00:59.16 | kd3 | emails away |
| 00:59.22 | Torhal | kd3: Merge is a hell of a tool. |
| 00:59.24 | Torhal | :D |
| 00:59.33 | kd3 | lol |
| 01:02.13 | Stanzilla | what tha |
| 01:02.16 | Stanzilla | why |
| 01:02.24 | Stanzilla | that has to be a bad merge .p |
| 01:02.56 | kd3 | updates the patchbox on the wiki to accurately reflect the toc... |
| 01:03.29 | Ebony | why would they change the toc to 60000 :s, a bug? |
| 01:03.35 | kd3 | they mismerged |
| 01:03.43 | kd3 | not the first time |
| 01:03.49 | Ebony | ture that |
| 01:03.58 | Ebony | thats why its called a "ptr" |
| 01:03.58 | kd3 | it'll be 60100 again in the next build I expect |
| 01:04.07 | tz | next they'll release another mac binary which wasn't stripped |
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| 01:05.40 | Primer | They're probably still using svn |
| 01:05.58 | Stanzilla | +if ( IsGMClient() ) then |
| 01:05.59 | Stanzilla | + C_WowTokenFakeSecure = C_WowTokenSecure; |
| 01:05.59 | Stanzilla | + retain("C_WowTokenFake") |
| 01:05.59 | Stanzilla | +end |
| 01:06.02 | Stanzilla | haha |
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| 01:08.19 | Ebony | ha |
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| 01:12.38 | End | I thinl blizzard uses perforce |
| 01:12.41 | End | think* |
| 01:13.23 | End | it seems somewhat popular among game developers |
| 01:14.33 | Stanzilla | ye |
| 01:14.46 | Stanzilla | not for everything though |
| 01:15.14 | Thunder_Child | Yes, all of our game company clients use perforce. |
| 01:15.20 | Thunder_Child | Seems to be de facto. |
| 01:15.40 | Cidan | handles binary assets really well |
| 01:16.01 | Thunder_Child | Has locking issues over nfs mounts though. |
| 01:16.15 | Cidan | everything does, i imagine |
| 01:16.26 | Thunder_Child | Not linux. |
| 01:16.35 | Cidan | yeah? |
| 01:16.43 | Cidan | how do locks translate across machines? |
| 01:17.23 | Thunder_Child | Which kind? |
| 01:17.52 | Thunder_Child | Although I did have Netapp in mind when I said that. |
| 01:17.56 | Cidan | take your pick, flock, lockf, fcntl |
| 01:18.13 | Dagmar | Typically they don't |
| 01:18.21 | Cidan | ^ indeed |
| 01:18.26 | Cidan | but netapp, is a lovely beast. |
| 01:18.33 | Cidan | god bless them |
| 01:18.50 | Thunder_Child | We have Isilon as well but they are getting phased out. |
| 01:19.28 | Thunder_Child | Actually, the largest issues we have with nfs and netapp are macs. |
| 01:19.40 | Thunder_Child | Luckally, we only have a few of them. |
| 01:20.17 | Thunder_Child | luckily* |
| 01:20.40 | Cidan | do you use v3 or v4? |
| 01:21.50 | Cidan | you know what I was always (kind of) fond of? GPFS |
| 01:22.37 | Cidan | full distributed locks, ionotify, etc |
| 01:23.45 | Thunder_Child | Not sure which version. I would suspect 3 since it's old. |
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| 01:33.45 | Kowh | I loved working with netapps years ago. Head and shoulders above everything else at the time. |
| 01:33.57 | Kowh | Been unable to convince any place I've worked since to get one though, $$$. |
| 01:42.36 | Thunder_Child | We only have like 800T of it though. |
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| 01:58.50 | Primer | FreeNAS!! |
| 01:59.07 | Primer | + JBOD! |
| 02:03.57 | tz | nah ZFS |
| 02:04.06 | fewyn | archlinux~! |
| 02:04.16 | fewyn | wait we're not randomly yelling distros? |
| 02:08.18 | bshelden | No? Well, I wanna yell NixOS! anyway. |
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| 02:10.53 | Primer | FreeNAS is some form of BSD, IIRC |
| 02:11.02 | Primer | and JBOD means Just a Bunch of Disks |
| 02:11.13 | Primer | and I'm pretty sure you can use ZFS on FreeNAS |
| 02:12.33 | Primer | Did anyone get a hold of Esaymynn? |
| 02:12.36 | Primer | err |
| 02:12.39 | Primer | whatever his name is |
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| 02:19.28 | Shirik | I finally had to make a spreadsheet for eve :( |
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| 02:20.59 | kd3 | so excel online lives up to it's name? |
| 02:22.00 | Thunder_Child | Primer: You can, but iirc they recomend ecc ram with ZFS. |
| 02:22.25 | Primer | its* |
| 02:25.41 | znf | Anyone ever tried this? https://romanrm.net/mhddfs |
| 02:28.51 | Kowh | Huh, looks to just be user-space striping. |
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| 02:29.45 | Kowh | File-level striping to be specific. |
| 02:30.02 | Kowh | Which I suppose if you're going to stripe, isn't a horrible way to do it. |
| 02:30.11 | tz | old mate of mine wrote something similar, sued it on my fileserver for a few years before swapping to ZFS |
| 02:30.33 | tz | was pretty useful in the sense that the bare mounted drives still had the full file structure, just a subset of the files |
| 02:30.38 | tz | that were store on that specific drive |
| 02:30.41 | Kowh | ZFS does seem to be the way to go. |
| 02:30.43 | fewyn | All of Darkmoon Island is now a Sanctuary zone. Note that some areas may still be incorrectly displaying as Contested areas on PvP realms. This display issue will be fixed in a future patch. |
| 02:30.44 | fewyn | heh |
| 02:31.09 | tz | I've been running a couple of ZFS raidz2 arrays for about 7 years now |
| 02:31.15 | tz | only issues have been hardware |
| 02:31.21 | Ressy | Must've been annoying attempting to do the race, to get pulled into pvp |
| 02:31.36 | tz | moved the entire array from freenas -> opensolaris -> linux, all without issue |
| 02:32.10 | Kowh | You see the joke post "To encourage pvp in Ashran, the following areas are now sanctuaries: Eastern Kingdoms, Kalimdor, Northrend, Outland, Pandria, Draenor." |
| 02:32.12 | Kowh | ? |
| 02:33.26 | Kowh | I've got a Drobo, which is ZFS-like, but costs too much. :D |
| 02:34.04 | tz | mine's just debian running in a vm, with a controller card directly mapped to the vm |
| 02:34.43 | znf | would my dusty Intel Atom with HT actually be able to cope with ZFS? |
| 02:34.49 | tz | easily |
| 02:34.53 | tz | I used to run it on one |
| 02:34.59 | tz | just don't enable deduplication |
| 02:35.06 | Kowh | Drobo's nice in that it's entirely hands off once setup, apart from popping drives in and out. |
| 02:35.26 | Kowh | If a drive dies, or you want to expand, just pop a new one in. |
| 02:35.31 | tz | *nod* |
| 02:35.40 | znf | I still have no idea how ZFS works in regards of failure |
| 02:36.16 | tz | in what sense? if you're running redundant disks, replace the failed drive and do a "zpool replace <pool> <old device> <new device> |
| 02:36.25 | tz | or have a hot spare |
| 02:36.28 | tz | plenty of options |
| 02:36.49 | znf | like, what is needed... I'm cheap, so I want some sort of failure prevention but losing as less capacity as I can :P |
| 02:37.06 | tz | yeah fair enough.. I bit the bullet and just bought two extra drives redundancy |
| 02:37.32 | Kowh | Drives are cheap, just get more. Worth it to have the ability to lose two drives. |
| 02:37.48 | tz | exactly my rationale... except when I started they weren't so cheap :P |
| 02:38.02 | znf | they're "Cheap" when your income is not less than 300â¬/month :P |
| 02:38.13 | Shirik | kd3: It took nearly half a year before I got to that point though! |
| 02:38.21 | Shirik | and it's only because I have too much money to keep track of |
| 02:39.04 | jleclanche | gitlab acquiring gitorious is great news in the land of good UX |
| 02:39.11 | jleclanche | gitorious was a fucking disaster |
| 02:39.40 | jleclanche | appreciate what they were trying to do i guess but they did sell to avoid going bankrupt.. |
| 02:48.04 | znf | wait a second |
| 02:48.07 | znf | how2zfs in linux |
| 02:51.05 | kd3 | huh, all of darkmoon island is a sanctuary now |
| 02:52.30 | znf | except the outskirts |
| 02:52.49 | kd3 | "All of Darkmoon Island is now a Sanctuary zone. Note that some areas may still be incorrectly displaying as Contested areas on PvP realms. This display issue will be fixed in a future patch." |
| 02:52.53 | kd3 | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/18061645/#march3 |
| 02:52.59 | znf | Ah |
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| 03:17.30 | kd3 | Looks like [Ace Tonk Commander] was too tough after all. Hotfix incoming... http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/16492669477#7 |
| 03:19.45 | znf | it's not hard, it's just incredibly retarded that the enemy tonks get in your way :P |
| 03:23.08 | znf | (or friendly) |
| 03:23.09 | znf | :D |
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| 03:44.32 | jleclanche | kd3: it was stupid i had to wait for 6am to do it |
| 03:44.40 | jleclanche | because even tho you are "alone" the hits are shared |
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| 04:18.56 | Mr_Rabies | did you ever release your oregorger addon semlar? |
| 04:19.08 | Semlar | too busy dying to oregorger |
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| 04:36.06 | FatGuyLaughing | I'm currently having trouble with using my ##SavedVariables: CheckListDB in my addon files. I have established in my CheckList.lua that the CheckListDB = {}. However, in my second file CheckListConfiguration.lua I would like to update the CheckListDB variable when a configuration checkbox has been clicked. |
| 04:36.19 | FatGuyLaughing | I have a git repo with my code at https://bitbucket.org/fatguylaughing/checklist/overview |
| 04:37.11 | Primer | make it not local |
| 04:37.24 | Primer | that was a stab in the dark, BTW |
| 04:37.41 | FatGuyLaughing | It's Global right now |
| 04:38.02 | Iriel | The code looks about righjt |
| 04:38.07 | FatGuyLaughing | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.07 | Iriel | how do you know itâs not working? |
| 04:38.49 | FatGuyLaughing | Iriel: I'm looking into the D:\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\ACCOUNTNAME\SavedVariables |
| 04:38.58 | Primer | Simca: Is it time to fork Astrolabe yet? |
| 04:39.13 | kd3 | files don't get read or written outside of logging in to characters or reloading the ui |
| 04:39.21 | Iriel | FatGuyLaughing: put a print statement in your OnClick function to make sure itâs being fired/ |
| 04:39.36 | kd3 | if you're not doing a /reload or relogging, it's not getting flushed to disk |
| 04:39.37 | Iriel | Also try /dump CheckListDB when youâre in game, before and after clicking |
| 04:39.55 | FatGuyLaughing | By the way, I didn't realize this channel existed. I will do my best to be a part of it when I can contribute :) |
| 04:40.08 | FatGuyLaughing | Iriel: Did not know about the /dump. Thanks for that. |
| 04:40.33 | FatGuyLaughing | kd3: I'm quiting the game and then looking after it updates. |
| 04:40.50 | kd3 | ah, yeah, then diagnostic print statements are the way to go |
| 04:40.54 | FatGuyLaughing | Iriel: print("This work") would that be proper for what you meant |
| 04:41.16 | Iriel | Yup, thatâd work |
| 04:41.33 | Iriel | Actually thatâs your problem |
| 04:41.40 | FatGuyLaughing | Iriel: Crap... then I'm pretty sure my function is not being called. I'll go check. |
| 04:41.43 | FatGuyLaughing | Iriel: What is? |
| 04:41.47 | Iriel | CheckListConfiguration.lua line 15 has to come after line 28 |
| 04:41.58 | Iriel | Youâre trying to use the function before itâs defined |
| 04:42.19 | FatGuyLaughing | Iriel: Come from a PHP background where that do not matter. Sorry about that. |
| 04:42.26 | FatGuyLaughing | Iriel: I will fix that |
| 04:42.37 | Iriel | Lua has lexical scoping, the name is in scope from the point of definition on |
| 04:42.39 | kd3 | yah, that catches a lot of people. lua's interpreted, it has to see a definition before it knows how to use it |
| 04:42.49 | FatGuyLaughing | Wow I messed that sentence up real bad lol. |
| 04:42.53 | Primer | PHP is interpreted too... |
| 04:43.00 | FatGuyLaughing | kd3: ^ |
| 04:43.02 | FatGuyLaughing | :) |
| 04:43.13 | FatGuyLaughing | It's just apparently more forgiving? :) |
| 04:43.25 | FatGuyLaughing | How active is everyone in here? |
| 04:43.31 | Primer | I just does things differently |
| 04:43.31 | Iriel | Just a different choice of scoping rules |
| 04:43.35 | Semlar | like so active |
| 04:43.36 | Iriel | does make the parser far simpler |
| 04:44.07 | FatGuyLaughing | Iriel: Well that's true. Didn't think about it from that perspective. |
| 04:44.09 | kd3 | we can be busy or dead. ask a question and there's usually someone around to answer it, mostly in the european and american working hours |
| 04:44.35 | FatGuyLaughing | kd3: Great, well then I'll try to help when I can as well. |
| 04:45.08 | FatGuyLaughing | So is it bad that in the function CheckListConfigGlobalList_OnClick I'm outright updating the Global var? |
| 04:45.19 | Iriel | FatGuyLaughing: not at all, thatâs pretty standard |
| 04:45.57 | FatGuyLaughing | Iriel: Would it be better to add the panel.okay function and then just use that function to look at the entire form instead of me changing things onclick? |
| 04:46.03 | FatGuyLaughing | Hope that made sense |
| 04:46.26 | Iriel | FatGuyLaughing: it depends on what you want your UIâs behavior to be |
| 04:46.39 | Iriel | FatGuyLaughing: if it makes sense to require a âsubmitâ or âapplyâ click, then update when that happens only |
| 04:46.51 | Iriel | FatGuyLaughing: if there are several independent settings isât frequently better to have them apply on change |
| 04:47.20 | FatGuyLaughing | Iriel: Oh... ok. I forgot that you can hit Escape and that wouldn't be the same as clicking the okay button for the interface. |
| 04:48.25 | FatGuyLaughing | Alright, well I'm going to head off and make the changes and see what happens. Thanks again for the help |
| 04:55.06 | FatGuyLaughing | And.... of course it works now :D |
| 04:56.08 | FatGuyLaughing | So I have a feeling the definition of the CheckListDB = {} in CheckList.lua is probably wrong because that seems like it would reset the Global on every load of the game and reload ui. |
| 04:56.20 | Iriel | Youâd be incorrect |
| 04:56.36 | jleclanche | it's kinda weird theres never any news about new products on the blizzard store |
| 04:56.37 | jleclanche | http://gear.blizzard.com/index.php/default/collectibles/diablo-chess.html this is cool |
| 04:56.38 | Iriel | Thereâs a wiki page that talks about how things load, but basically your lua files are loaded long before the SavedVariables |
| 04:56.51 | kd3 | http://wow.gamepedia.com/AddOn_loading_process |
| 04:57.18 | Iriel | So your .lua file initializes the variable, then if it happens to have been saved, the saved variable will overwrite the initialized version |
| 04:57.37 | Iriel | admires KD3âs wikifu |
| 04:58.55 | FatGuyLaughing | Very nice. So where should I be looking mainly for "How to do something"? I have been looking at http://wow.gamepedia.com/ and http://wowprogramming.com/ |
| 04:59.30 | kd3 | yup. all wow addon/api documentation is done by users, not by blizz |
| 05:00.15 | FatGuyLaughing | Yeah, there's a level of frustration I have with that :) |
| 05:00.23 | FatGuyLaughing | But I'm sure I'm not the first or last |
| 05:00.39 | Iriel | FatGuyLaughing: Why are you frustrated by that? |
| 05:00.51 | Iriel | FatGuyLaughing: the âusersâ have LITERALLY written books on Addon development |
| 05:01.21 | FatGuyLaughing | All the APIs that I have to use on a day to day basis are managed and maintained by the owner not the community. |
| 05:01.54 | FatGuyLaughing | Iriel: I know, I have one. I'm just used to a different environment. That's really what it boils down to. |
| 05:02.13 | FatGuyLaughing | It's not that big of a deal because the community has done such a good job doing so. |
| 05:11.26 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 05:11.34 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 05:24.46 | mckenziemc1 | it is when documentation is missing or wrong... |
| 05:25.12 | mckenziemc | trial and error isn't the best for accuracy |
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| 05:27.36 | Ebony | got a Q for anyone that might now am getting a inv from a "player" with a realm name with a space but when i get the inv it removes the space the whitelist has the space in it, so the Q is is there a goodway to remove the space? |
| 05:28.21 | Ebony | i got it working without the space in the realm name but with it seems to not find the "player" |
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| 06:02.26 | fewyn | nowto find out how horrible csi: cyber really is |
| 06:15.05 | Torhal | fewThe name alone makes it seem really badworthy. |
| 06:15.10 | Torhal | fewyn: ^ |
| 06:17.41 | mckenziemc | at least they didn't call it "CSI: Torhal" |
| 06:17.57 | Torhal | How would that even make sense? |
| 06:18.03 | Torhal | You're weird, mckenziemc. |
| 06:18.10 | Torhal | You should get that looked at. |
| 06:18.34 | mckenziemc | hey, you're the living, walking crime scene |
| 06:18.52 | Torhal | Nah. I stopped pissing in your shoes. |
| 06:19.03 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 06:29.28 | fewyn | csi cyber isnt too bad.. a little cheesey though |
| 06:29.46 | fewyn | the concepts in it arent too far fetched |
| 06:30.05 | fewyn | no "enhance" bull so far |
| 06:43.08 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:43.49 | Torhal | Those comments. |
| 06:45.47 | Semlar | who makes a train that shoots fire like 20 feet out the sides of it |
| 06:46.23 | Torhal | Blizzard. |
| 06:46.29 | Torhal | Or, in this case, Neffi/ |
| 06:47.41 | Semlar | y u do dis |
| 06:49.40 | Torhal | He's full of hate, Semlar. |
| 06:58.09 | jleclanche | Is there some bot that sends random unique hashes over the internet (eg through website forms, email, etc) and attempts to see if it ever surfaces somewhere on google? |
| 06:59.04 | jleclanche | i guess it'd qualify a lot like spam, though the goal would be large-scale data leak detection |
| 07:04.59 | Simca | it should work fine |
| 07:06.00 | Simca | err, don't mind me, chat log was scrolled way up to a conversation that nobody from it is even here now |
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| 07:43.06 | mitch0 | I'm here |
| 07:43.57 | mckenziemc | no you're not |
| 07:50.33 | Torhal | Actually, he's here. And over there. |
| 07:50.44 | Torhal | wonders how mitch0 does that without an active subscription. |
| 07:52.02 | mitch0 | moo? |
| 07:52.11 | mitch0 | (I have a starter edition thingy) |
| 07:52.14 | Torhal | Ah |
| 07:52.19 | mitch0 | and a frozen other thingy |
| 07:52.34 | Torhal | I was thinking you were pulling an Ackis and drycoding everything. |
| 07:52.45 | mitch0 | ;) |
| 07:52.46 | Torhal | "fuck it. Looks like it should work." |
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| 08:17.08 | p3lim | ^ my last 9 months |
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| 08:25.35 | nebula169 | so whenever one of our hunters pops stampede, his chimaeron pet steals a boss unit and shows up in my boss frames |
| 08:36.41 | p3lim | haha what? |
| 08:39.56 | nebula169 | yeaaaa, was testing stuff on darmac and it bumped the mounted mob's unit token to boss3 instead of boss2 |
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| 08:55.21 | karl_w_w | what a boss |
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| 09:00.30 | karl_w_w | https://github.com/hexchat/hexchat/issues/704 year and a half later |
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| 09:14.20 | Fisker | assaults Cairenn with hugs |
| 09:14.34 | Cairenn | *chuckle* |
| 09:14.42 | Cairenn | How goes the new job? |
| 09:16.09 | Cairenn | Also, for exactly that reason, shouldn't you be asleep right now? |
| 09:16.21 | Fisker | noo |
| 09:16.22 | nevcairiel | he should be at work right now |
| 09:16.35 | Fisker | Your timezones are messed up :P |
| 09:16.48 | Cairenn | Oh yeah, it's later (earlier) than I realized |
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| 10:44.45 | Gnarfoz | kd3: gmail thinks your latest interface diff is in Italian (and as such, is likely to be spam, since I don't usually receive Italian emails) :D |
| 10:49.11 | nevcairiel | it did that here too, although that didnt cause it to be classified as spam |
| 10:50.25 | Gnarfoz | sure, there's more to spam detection than that, certainly |
| 10:59.11 | foxlit | anyone got Garona yet? |
| 11:13.58 | Mr_Rabies | that's on account of the spaghetti he attached Gnarfoz |
| 11:14.08 | Mr_Rabies | pop some parmesan on that junk and go to town |
| 11:23.14 | Gnarfoz | but will it still taste nice when I get back from town?! |
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| 11:41.24 | karl_w_w | I thought they said they changed archaeology recipes so that none were over 200 fragments |
| 11:41.48 | nevcairiel | i didnt think any were ever over 200, just right at 200 |
| 11:41.58 | nevcairiel | they also increased the maximum amount of thingys you can have though |
| 11:42.20 | karl_w_w | All rare Draenor archeology projects no longer cost more than 200 fragments to solve. |
| 11:42.26 | karl_w_w | but I have a 225 one |
| 11:42.33 | karl_w_w | which I think was 250 before |
| 11:42.37 | nevcairiel | which one |
| 11:42.49 | karl_w_w | ancient nest guardian |
| 11:43.26 | nevcairiel | but 225 is fine anyway, since you can have 250 fragments now iirc |
| 11:43.42 | karl_w_w | yeah it was 250 before |
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| 11:45.41 | karl_w_w | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/16411692192 quality control |
| 11:46.22 | karl_w_w | I'm tempted to actually do arch (rather than just rely on the mine) to see if it takes more than 225 from me as well |
| 11:46.55 | nevcairiel | why would it take more |
| 11:47.53 | karl_w_w | that's what the dude said |
| 11:48.01 | karl_w_w | or seems to be saying |
| 11:48.10 | karl_w_w | maybe it's still trying to take 250 |
| 11:48.10 | nevcairiel | he never said it took more than 225, he just said it took all, maybe he had 225 |
| 11:48.39 | karl_w_w | so why emphasise ALL? :P |
| 11:48.45 | nevcairiel | because he is a huntard |
| 11:48.48 | nevcairiel | they are not logical |
| 11:49.06 | nevcairiel | also, he performs squirrel love |
| 11:51.55 | karl_w_w | good point |
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| 13:34.23 | jnwhiteh | It's hard adjusting to life without my sister |
| 13:34.36 | jnwhiteh | I feel a bit guilty because its easier =/ |
| 13:43.39 | jleclanche | ~cookie jnwhiteh |
| 13:43.46 | jleclanche | uh |
| 13:43.50 | jleclanche | that is not what I meant to do |
| 13:47.21 | Fisker | :( |
| 13:48.04 | nevcairiel | cookie has a search f unction based on some input? |
| 13:48.12 | nevcairiel | or was that a giant coincedence? |
| 13:48.14 | nevcairiel | ~cookie Fisker |
| 13:48.25 | nevcairiel | guess it has a search function |
| 13:48.39 | Fisker | fun |
| 13:48.41 | Fisker | ~literal cookie |
| 13:48.41 | purl | "cookie" is "<action>gives <who> a cookie" |
| 13:48.48 | Fisker | weird |
| 13:49.01 | nevcairiel | the plugin probably overrides the factoid |
| 13:49.21 | Fisker | ~cookie poop |
| 13:49.38 | Fisker | ~literal fisker- |
| 13:49.38 | purl | "fisker-" is "<reply>fisker- is a brand of cat food" |
| 13:49.49 | Fisker | ~literal fisker |
| 13:49.49 | purl | "fisker" is "the #wowace channel troll. worthless, or always one step ahead of the average troll, on fire, or http:/â/âtinyurl.com/âfisker1, or probably a bot" |
| 13:49.58 | Fisker | hmm |
| 13:50.11 | Fisker | The #DEL# seems to indicate it's a deleted record |
| 13:51.05 | jleclanche | ~literal horrible person |
| 13:51.10 | jleclanche | er |
| 13:51.13 | jleclanche | ~cookie horrible person |
| 13:51.58 | jleclanche | i figured it'd at least ping someone on this channel |
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| 14:55.41 | Ayrshire | survived-last-night fistbumps Ressy. |
| 14:56.21 | Ressy | goddamn that was rough. |
| 14:56.36 | Ressy | Looking out across the city, watching the skyline light up with more transformers blowing up. |
| 14:56.47 | Ressy | Power coil across the street from my place blew & caught on fire |
| 14:57.16 | Ressy | You see the fire dept's active calls list last night during all of it? |
| 14:57.35 | Ayrshire | About 20 transformer/pole fires, yeah. |
| 14:57.43 | Ayrshire | At a time. Nuts. |
| 14:57.49 | Ressy | At one point 26. |
| 14:58.07 | Ressy | and then all the related elevator rescues from the power outages from those transformer fires |
| 14:58.26 | Ressy | They cleared mine pretty quick, and it was off the page.. They were doing that all night.. There must have been a ton on fire. |
| 14:58.48 | Ayrshire | Other than power blips, nothing really happened here. |
| 14:59.39 | karl_w_w | you can't blame them, they're just protecting earth from alien invaders |
| 14:59.41 | karl_w_w | or something |
| 14:59.44 | Ayrshire | I think I did catch the flash from one transformer pop |
| 15:00.07 | Ressy | Lots of power flickers here.. |
| 15:00.17 | Ayrshire | Usually the flashes I see are from a gap in the third rail as the subway goes by, but there was no train passing at the time. |
| 15:00.30 | Ressy | Was getting emails from my work NAS all night.. "I'm on UPS!" "I'm off UPS!" "I'm on again!" "LOW POWER! SHUTTING DOWN!" |
| 15:01.24 | mikma | oh, SNAAAP! |
| 15:01.45 | mikma | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcxpbhM0DaA |
| 15:01.48 | Ressy | Was annoying. |
| 15:02.33 | Ressy | Then the email from CNOC's lawyer: "I tried serving you papers via fax.. Is something wrong with your fax?" "Well.. The number is my work number.. My NAS emailed me about shutting down due to low power on the UPS... So... I'd guess theres still no power at my office." |
| 15:02.56 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/uA5mEFb <- lolz. lol lol lol. looooololol. |
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| 15:17.18 | foxlit | I wonder if lockdown drops for LoD addons loaded in combat, or if they're just screwed. |
| 15:17.39 | nevcairiel | they are screwed |
| 15:17.41 | Gnarfoz | screwed |
| 15:17.47 | nevcairiel | otherwise easy to abuse |
| 15:17.58 | foxlit | step 1: create a bazillion addons? |
| 15:18.16 | nevcairiel | so setup your LoD addon to load on start of combat if you need secure things |
| 15:18.28 | nevcairiel | foxlit: you would find a way, i'm sure |
| 15:19.28 | foxlit | nevcairiel: so setup your LoD addon to load on start of combat if you need secure things << kind of defeats the point of LoD :) |
| 15:19.56 | nevcairiel | loading in the middle of combat could also result in a lag spike, which is not a good idea |
| 15:20.32 | foxlit | it's not that I actually want to load anything in combat. |
| 15:21.21 | foxlit | it's more that the combat lockdown and addon loading isn't exactly user-controlled, so I can't guarantee that you won't end up loading the addon in combat through a weird combination of circumstances. |
| 15:23.43 | foxlit | and then I do things like creating SABT-inheriting buttons in Lua, which'll (a) throw errors in combat (b) be hosed by a tainted OnClick handler anyway. |
| 15:24.19 | Gnarfoz | if InCombatLockdown() then DoStuffLater() end? |
| 15:24.36 | foxlit | in every single place. |
| 15:24.41 | Gnarfoz | basically :( |
| 15:24.55 | nevcairiel | just wrap the entire addon in a function and delay execution |
| 15:24.56 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:25.58 | foxlit | which I think brings me back to "wtb InsecureActionButtonTemplate, which isn't protected, but only works out-of-combat" |
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| 15:36.59 | jleclanche | I finally got a helpful GM. |
| 15:37.09 | jleclanche | one that actually logged onto my character and fixed the problem I had |
| 15:37.22 | jleclanche | rather than make me feel like I was talking to a shitty ISP's customer service |
| 15:37.34 | Simca | what problem? |
| 15:37.41 | jleclanche | garrison quests impossible to turn in |
| 15:37.49 | Simca | ah |
| 15:38.07 | Simca | I had a great experience once where I was stuck floating. |
| 15:38.12 | jleclanche | he answered my ticket 5 minutes after I opened it |
| 15:38.21 | Simca | Like I could walk around orgrimmar but I was permanently 20 yards in the air |
| 15:38.30 | jleclanche | lol |
| 15:38.38 | Simca | I had to have a GM login to the toon and adjust the Z coords of my character |
| 15:38.46 | Simca | and he was like "wow that is really weird" |
| 15:39.01 | mikma | cheater |
| 15:39.10 | jleclanche | how is this possible? the game client's physics are supposed to take over the server's most of the time |
| 15:39.23 | jleclanche | or did they change that? |
| 15:39.37 | Simca | they are |
| 15:39.50 | Simca | it must have been some sort of internal buff or something that I triggered |
| 15:39.54 | Simca | i have no clue |
| 15:40.04 | jleclanche | when did the symptoms start? |
| 15:40.14 | Simca | when i entered the city |
| 15:40.26 | Simca | was a lowbie toon so flying wasn't natural |
| 15:40.28 | jleclanche | by the city you must mean vegas, because that's where most symptoms start |
| 15:40.34 | Simca | yeah clearly |
| 15:42.27 | karl_w_w | https://i.imgur.com/87PhvTrh.jpg |
| 15:51.14 | foxlit | http://pastebin.com/LhTx9DLE << see, it's abominable. |
| 15:53.25 | mikma | whats so bad about that |
| 15:57.57 | foxlit | it's long, annoying to work with, and doesn't really solve all of the issues. |
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| 16:10.37 | Simca | your definition of long is very odd |
| 16:11.33 | Simca | the 2800 lines that i use to make several tables of constants is long. that snippet is not long |
| 16:12.00 | foxlit | long scales with the problem being solved. |
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| 16:18.39 | foxlit | hm, so setting TOP and RIGHT anchors didn't really do what I want. |
| 16:19.04 | foxlit | (which was to align with the top edge of one frame, and the right edge of another) |
| 16:21.48 | Semlar | tries to calm foxlit down |
| 16:22.18 | Semlar | you madman |
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| 16:33.40 | VIad | the pet journal should have a filter to also help you find things like powerful against a type, or abilities doing something specific, or just the search field matching more than just pet names :/ |
| 16:33.57 | nevcairiel | addons, use them |
| 16:36.37 | foxlit | I wonder if rerolling follower abilities without confirmation is bad. |
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| 17:01.35 | Gnarfoz | most people don't read the tooltip and will probably cry that they lost their epic mount/scavenger/whatever |
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| 17:22.13 | Semlar | i have /use 14 /use rapid fire in a macro, and i've noticed it doesn't always use my trinket even when it isn't on cooldown |
| 17:22.42 | Semlar | i have the trinket on my action bar so i can see when it doesn't get used |
| 17:23.57 | foxlit | it's conspiring against your macro-using ways. |
| 17:24.18 | Semlar | it would seem that way |
| 17:26.08 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:27.33 | Semlar | the trinket is to the right of the blank slot on my action bars in the middle of the screen |
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| 17:29.29 | Semlar | neither one of them are on the gcd, i don't know what could possibly cause one to work and one to not |
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| 17:36.19 | mikma | http://store.steampowered.com/app/238370?snr=1_41_4__42 |
| 17:39.39 | nevcairiel | anyone know the ICD of the new alchemy trinkets? |
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| 17:52.55 | pompy | nevcairiel: only thing i came across is http://www.totemspot.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7429&s=78cf0fc6d9ed6b671b2af7319089b267&p=90292&viewfull=1#post90292 |
| 17:53.12 | nevcairiel | its 55 apparently |
| 17:53.17 | nevcairiel | same as the 620 |
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| 17:57.30 | Eol | Are there any mechanisms to queue opening 200 garrison salvage boxes? Or do I have to press a key 200 times? |
| 17:59.51 | Fisker | you can press it 400 times if you want |
| 18:05.31 | Eol | So I'm guessing no. |
| 18:06.35 | Semlar | depends on whether UseContainerItem will let you |
| 18:07.33 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: 620 blaze it |
| 18:07.41 | nevcairiel | wat |
| 18:07.49 | Gnarfoz | am I doing this wrong? :p |
| 18:08.34 | pompy | yes |
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| 18:22.40 | karl_w_w | sometimes facebook scares me with the friend recommendations |
| 18:23.25 | karl_w_w | it's recommended this person who I have no mutual friends with, and no link to them that I can think of that facebook would know about, yet I do know them but havent spoken to them in like 8 years |
| 18:23.29 | zenzelezz | https://twitter.com/idiot/status/572778240038834176 |
| 18:23.45 | Semlar | it recommends people i don't know all the time |
| 18:23.53 | karl_w_w | me too |
| 18:24.06 | karl_w_w | when it bases them off mutual friends it usually gets them wrong |
| 18:29.43 | Semlar | jokes on them, i have no friends |
| 18:32.34 | jleclanche | Gotta hand it to John Oliver, he knows how to get good cameo in his show. https://i.imgur.com/5dAUFYU.png |
| 18:33.54 | zenzelezz | were they all in one episode? Cause that would be one heck of an episode |
| 18:34.04 | jleclanche | zenzelezz: yep. |
| 18:34.15 | jleclanche | they were all within 30 seconds. |
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| 18:41.48 | karl_w_w | i only know who 9 of those people are |
| 18:42.12 | karl_w_w | 10* |
| 18:42.46 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: which 10? |
| 18:44.06 | karl_w_w | abrams, batali, colbert, fallon, hanks, letterman, r2d2, rachael ray, homer simpson, jon stewart |
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| 18:45.50 | jleclanche | dan castellaneta is the voice of homer simpson |
| 18:45.53 | jleclanche | so you get a free 11th! |
| 18:47.22 | karl_w_w | i thought that might be the case |
| 18:47.33 | karl_w_w | but i didnt know for sure so i didnt count it :P |
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| 18:55.23 | fewyn | oh hey valve just made source 2 free for developers |
| 18:55.25 | fewyn | http://www.polygon.com/2015/3/3/8145273/valve-source-2-announcement-free-developers |
| 18:56.01 | jleclanche | "just"? its been hours, that's like decades in internet old news years |
| 18:56.12 | Thunder_Child | Thank you Fisker. |
| 18:57.05 | Mihau | They announced it last night. o.o |
| 18:58.54 | Fisker | For what Thunder_Child ? |
| 18:59.22 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: It was a jab at jleclanche. I should have been a bit more clear about that. |
| 19:00.29 | Fisker | But why thank me? |
| 19:01.25 | Thunder_Child | I was calling jleclanche Fisker. |
| 19:02.35 | Fisker | But you used my name? |
| 19:02.46 | Thunder_Child | Yes. |
| 19:07.13 | jleclanche | Thank you Fisker |
| 19:07.47 | Fisker | Thank you Fisker |
| 19:09.46 | Neffi | Semlar: buy me titan x plz. thx. bye. |
| 19:10.00 | Semlar | no neffi |
| 19:10.19 | Neffi | D: |
| 19:10.22 | Neffi | dont u love me tho |
| 19:11.00 | Semlar | conditionally |
| 19:11.12 | Neffi | <_< |
| 19:11.18 | Thunder_Child | His love is less than $1K. |
| 19:33.47 | Primer | Simca: Is it time to fork Astrolabe? |
| 19:34.28 | Simca | nah, i want to give it a few more days |
| 19:34.45 | nevcairiel | i might build a replacement on the weekend, unless i lose my motivation again |
| 19:35.20 | Primer | Will it be API compatible? |
| 19:35.27 | nevcairiel | no |
| 19:35.32 | Primer | WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY |
| 19:35.47 | nevcairiel | i wont constraint myself by some other persons API design |
| 19:35.50 | nevcairiel | -t |
| 19:37.10 | Primer | Well, I only make 7 calls to Astrolabe functions in my addon |
| 19:38.28 | nevcairiel | need to figure out how some of the API stuff works, and why I never saw this problem with missing zone data that Simca blames all the problems on |
| 19:38.50 | Primer | go into your garrison mine |
| 19:39.16 | nevcairiel | well i know that astrolabe freaks out in there |
| 19:39.21 | Simca | SetMapByID fails on 18 specific maps (conditionally) |
| 19:39.26 | nevcairiel | but my code that gathers map info never failed |
| 19:39.46 | Primer | Does it run in OnInitialize? |
| 19:39.49 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 19:39.53 | Primer | that's probably why |
| 19:40.08 | nevcairiel | that runs on ADDON_LOADED, thats not exactly late |
| 19:40.23 | Primer | But if I had to guess, that would be why |
| 19:40.30 | Simca | does it use SetMapByID and then harvest data from the currently shown map? |
| 19:40.35 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 19:40.36 | Primer | Seeing as we can only guess at this point |
| 19:40.43 | nevcairiel | unfortunately you have to do that to get some map infos |
| 19:40.51 | Simca | it will fail in the garrison mine if this is the first login then |
| 19:41.16 | Simca | dump the appropriate map info and you should see an identical issue |
| 19:41.18 | nevcairiel | isnt the mine a micro dungeon? |
| 19:41.25 | Primer | yes |
| 19:41.26 | Torhal | nevcairiel: GatherMate fucks up when leaving the Garrison. |
| 19:41.33 | nevcairiel | Torhal: works fine here |
| 19:41.42 | Torhal | It doesn't flat-out error, but I don't see the node circles unless I reload. |
| 19:41.53 | nevcairiel | shrug, i see them in SMV just fine |
| 19:42.19 | Simca | the bug only occurs on the very first UI load since the game client was started |
| 19:42.27 | Simca | if you relog or reload it will never happen |
| 19:42.50 | nevcairiel | sounds like a blizzard bug and should just be ignored =P |
| 19:43.03 | Torhal | I don't have an Alliance Garrison, so I can't make comparisons. |
| 19:43.05 | nevcairiel | more important would be why it causes severe performance problems just because some data is missing |
| 19:43.25 | Torhal | But if I walk outside there is an herb and fishing node that always look like I've never touched them. If I reload, the circles show up. |
| 19:43.46 | Simca | garrison maps are too important to just say "oh well blizzard bug we'll wait for them to fix it" |
| 19:43.53 | Simca | took me under 100 lines of code to resolve the issue |
| 19:44.10 | nevcairiel | 100 lines for a hack-fix is quite a lot .p |
| 19:44.16 | Simca | oh well |
| 19:44.41 | Simca | it is clearly marked why those lines need to be there and when they fix it (never), they can be removed |
| 19:45.02 | nevcairiel | could just hardcode the important maps that dont work, its not like they update the maps often |
| 19:45.51 | Simca | I hardcoded the few pieces of info that were irreplaceable - the stuff you get from GetMapInfo() after SetMapByID |
| 19:46.03 | Simca | and used GetAreaMapInfo for the coordinate data |
| 19:46.21 | nevcairiel | yeah something like that |
| 19:46.50 | Simca | also, it actually looks like the data for the garrison mine map is flat out wrong too, which is great. |
| 19:47.07 | nevcairiel | micro dungeons are annoying shit anyway |
| 19:47.08 | Simca | the coordinates for left/bottom/top/right match the garrison ones perfectly |
| 19:47.31 | Simca | but if you zoom in/out while in the mine is clear the maps aren't remotely centered or even the same size |
| 19:47.37 | Simca | it is clear* |
| 19:48.38 | fatguylaughing | In the configuration panel for my addon I am trying to set a checkboxâs state depending on what the global variable has stored from last session. I believe Iâm calling it correctly on line 43 of CheckListConfiguration.lua but I get a value of nil. Iâve done a /dump CheckListPerCharacterList and I can see the value is set to true. https://bitbucket.org/fatguylaughing/checklist |
| 19:49.03 | fatguylaughing | Iâm a little mythed at why its nil when I call for it but it is true in the /dump |
| 19:49.32 | Simca | CB:SetScript("OnClick", function(self, button, down) |
| 19:49.32 | Simca | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:49.32 | Simca | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:49.38 | Simca | that call is overly complex |
| 19:49.53 | Simca | CB:SetScript("OnClick", CheckListUsePerCharacterList_OnClick) |
| 19:49.57 | Simca | is what you should do there |
| 19:50.13 | foxlit | #wowuidev: where we exclusively solve problems you don't care about. |
| 19:50.38 | Simca | that is an accurate tagline |
| 19:51.06 | Simca | it is fairly rare for somebody to ask for help and a user not to point out a different issue instead |
| 19:52.08 | Primer | indeed |
| 19:52.29 | Simca | oh, right |
| 19:52.49 | Simca | fatguylaughing: your code for that call is running before the saved variables are loaded |
| 19:53.30 | Simca | CB:SetChecked(CheckListPerCharacterDB.Config.UsePerCharacterList) has to run after ADDON_LOADED runs for your addon |
| 19:57.01 | fatguylaughing | I care, just been googling and Iâve found several references to the way Iâve done it above and the way that smica mentioned :) |
| 19:57.30 | fatguylaughing | Simca: Ah |
| 19:58.21 | fatguylaughing | Simca: Thanks I will go look at the ADDON_LOADED event |
| 20:15.36 | fewyn | holy fuck |
| 20:15.38 | fewyn | http://kotaku.com/ea-shuts-down-simcity-developer-maxis-1689454903 |
| 20:17.44 | Ayrshire | In retrospect, not much of a surprise. The Maxis everyone fondly remembers has been long gone for years. Since SimCity 4 really. |
| 20:18.09 | Ayrshire | The Sims titles are crazy popular, but I don't think anyone cares if they're made by Maxis or not. |
| 20:19.14 | Fisker | They're not maxis though |
| 20:19.25 | Fisker | Separate studio now |
| 20:19.56 | Ayrshire | Ah. My point was made years ago then. :D |
| 20:20.26 | Ayrshire | Take away Sims and you have Spore, and SimCity-in-name-only. |
| 20:21.00 | fewyn | i actually enjoyed simcity |
| 20:21.12 | fewyn | it's just not what everyone was expecting |
| 20:21.43 | Ayrshire | And needlessly online |
| 20:22.59 | Simca | it isn't now |
| 20:23.57 | Ayrshire | Can you actually use it without being connected to the internet now? |
| 20:26.55 | Simca | pretty sure you can |
| 20:28.03 | Thunder_Child | Yes. |
| 20:28.19 | Ayrshire | Huh. I'd say maybe I'd give it a try now, but I'm pretty sure I'd play something else in my massive backlog instead. :D |
| 20:28.22 | Fisker | s/expecting/told/ |
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| 21:14.29 | kd3 | wow. wow has hit 300k revisions in version control: https://twitter.com/TSquaredgamr/status/573202695068119040 |
| 21:16.14 | zenzelezz | half of them are people fighting over tabs vs. spaces and braces on same/separate lines |
| 21:23.56 | Gethe | ^^ |
| 21:27.19 | pompy | and semicolon usage |
| 21:27.33 | pompy | in the lua part |
| 21:27.34 | Torhal | That's not really optional in C++ |
| 21:27.42 | pompy | ~lart Torhal |
| 21:27.42 | purl | keeps mailing Torhal free America Online CDs until he drowns |
| 21:30.11 | Ressy | Think that needs updating.. Those things are hard to find these days. :P |
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| 22:19.12 | foxlit | y |
| 22:19.20 | foxlit | wait, you aren't the terminal. |
| 22:20.43 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: Stop talking to....uh...a client I guess. |
| 22:24.27 | Kowh | foxlit: I don't understand "y". Did you mean ":(){:|:&};:"? |
| 22:25.42 | kd3 | wow at the price rise on ores |
| 22:25.49 | foxlit | cd foo && (echo 'Foo' | zip -r9z foo.zip foo/*) |
| 22:25.57 | kd3 | ~2g each on my server |
| 22:26.11 | kullervo | should've stocked up when they were cheap |
| 22:26.17 | kullervo | if only gold was worth anything anymore |
| 22:26.20 | nevcairiel | i guess people are throwing them at the ore trader in masses |
| 22:29.09 | foxlit | http://pastebin.com/VaruFdFE << success, I guess. |
| 22:50.04 | Ebony | or everyone got bord mineing there mine out everyday. |
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| 22:51.42 | Ebony | Doubleagent got to level 100 |
| 22:51.53 | Ebony | opps |
| 22:52.16 | Semlar | throws nevcairiel at the ore trader |
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| 23:05.18 | kullervo | Ebony: but can't leave the damn isle |
| 23:05.21 | kullervo | that |
| 23:05.25 | kullervo | 's just sad |
| 23:05.48 | Ebony | be funny though |
| 23:05.52 | Ebony | if u could |
| 23:08.10 | kullervo | well (emphasis) I can, since I could make up my mind and choose a faction |
| 23:08.14 | plaw | Cairenn: BOOOO http://www.torontosun.com/2015/03/03/star-trek-fans-told-to-stop-spocking-5-bill |
| 23:08.27 | Cairenn | Hah! |
| 23:09.35 | plaw | dunno about canadarians, but if that were here I'd now be rushing out to get more $5 bills |
| 23:09.44 | plaw | except it's illegal here to deface notes.... |
| 23:10.05 | Cairenn | Probably going to happen here as well ... and yeah, it's illegal here also. |
| 23:10.47 | plaw | that piece says Bank of Canada person says it's not illegal there |
| 23:11.01 | Cairenn | weird |
| 23:11.46 | Mr_Rabies | it's only illegal in the US if you're making an attempt to pass one bill off as another value |
| 23:11.58 | plaw | suspect if it gets outta hand it probably may end up being illegal :( |
| 23:13.15 | Mr_Rabies | or rendering it unfit for circulation otherwise |
| 23:14.10 | kd3 | oh wow, found a link to the official UT linux client |
| 23:14.19 | kd3 | waves goodbye to his bandwidth for a few hours |
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| 23:21.42 | kullervo | uh isn't that <1GB? How do you make that download take a few hours o.O |
| 23:22.08 | kd3 | it's 2-something gigs |
| 23:22.09 | Stanzilla | his connection is "special" |
| 23:22.31 | kd3 | Length: 2460926773 (2.3G) [application/zip] |
| 23:23.51 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:41.24 | Arrowmaster | kd3: bastards need to up linux ut's up on steam, last few times i went to a lan party i was running ut2k4 through wine because i couldnt find a proper installer |
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| 23:45.49 | foxlit | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/master-plan/files/40-0-32/ << that list of tickets is too long for comfort; it'll inevitably break something :( |
| 23:49.23 | pompy | that's not good |
| 23:59.11 | Simca | is Demonology Warlock the only follower spec that can counter the same mechanic with two different potential abilities? |
