| 00:02.44 | Neffi | can somebody link me to a page with a (large-ish) GIF on it? |
| 00:02.55 | Neffi | everything is webm now. I can't even find a gif to test this |
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| 00:06.43 | Simca | Neffi: http://i.asdf.us/im/9c/butterflies5_1331087512_friendster.gif 21.4 MB |
| 00:10.58 | Neffi | why the hell is this gif so large? |
| 00:11.33 | Neffi | thanks though :) |
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| 00:32.51 | Torhal | Unkle: http://i.imgur.com/XmWwTeJ.jpg |
| 00:34.55 | Unkle | Torhal: And then that there Teachin' Lady done shot your pinky toe off. |
| 00:35.08 | Torhal | Hah |
| 00:35.45 | Unkle | http://www.gifsplosion.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/cat-punching-dog.gif |
| 00:44.38 | Neffi | omg, so derpy |
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| 00:55.39 | Simca | jleclanche: actually, the strings in QuestCache.wdb are not null-terminated |
| 00:55.46 | Simca | surprisingly |
| 00:56.17 | jleclanche | Simca: that's not possible. or it was changed recently |
| 00:56.34 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/r01TvI6.png the title "Critters of Draenor" runs straight into the quest text |
| 00:56.46 | Simca | happens all throughout this WDB - the quest items run into the completion text |
| 00:57.40 | [TOM_RUS] | isn't they fucked up all wdb's like that some time in cataclysm? |
| 00:58.07 | [TOM_RUS] | there's bitpacked string length somewhere |
| 00:58.34 | Simca | gameobjectcache still uses null-terminated c-strings |
| 00:58.47 | Simca | but the other two (creature and quest) don't, yeah |
| 00:59.28 | nevcairiel | has to store string length or something somewhere then |
| 00:59.39 | Simca | yeah, preceeds the strings |
| 00:59.52 | Simca | precedes* |
| 01:00.16 | Simca | and actually creature uses null-terminated c-strings too. just quest that is weird |
| 01:13.07 | Simca | and yeah it is packed into 6-bit and 11-bit sections |
| 01:14.18 | jleclanche | https://www.reddit.com/r/google/comments/2u7j3z/the_google_inbox_all_done_logo_has_a_cloud/ |
| 01:30.41 | Neffi | silly jleclanche. your worldview is limited by silly concepts like "optics" and "common sense". Google designers know better than that. |
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| 04:48.13 | Iriel | You lot are quiet tonight |
| 04:50.39 | Gethe | drops the bass |
| 04:50.57 | Arrowmaster | i just got home.... |
| 04:52.38 | pompy | wubwubwubwub |
| 05:00.02 | Fisker | Stop with all the noises I'm trying to sleep here |
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| 06:33.31 | Neffi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/01/what-windows-as-a-service-and-a-free-upgrade-mean-at-home-and-at-work/ |
| 06:33.33 | Neffi | I like this |
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| 06:46.17 | plaw | is the 12 Monkeys tv reboot shit or not? |
| 06:48.50 | plaw | Neffi: yeah it's pretty good. they've finally worked it out... |
| 07:07.53 | Arrowmaster | plaw: i saw the first two episodes, i liked it |
| 07:13.46 | plaw | Arrowmaster: thanks for your response, appreciated :) |
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| 08:03.09 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/c18TRq0 |
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| 09:20.47 | jnwhiteh | Semlar: any guess as to how I can translate from wowhead map ids to map file ids? |
| 09:20.50 | mikma | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ2yKB6Mh9o |
| 09:20.59 | jnwhiteh | Jade Forest is something like 5785 and I'm not sure how to get anything out of that anymore =) |
| 09:23.56 | nevcairiel | GetAreaMapInfo(areaId) returns 5785 as the second return value |
| 09:24.20 | jnwhiteh | I hate the mapping API. |
| 09:24.22 | jnwhiteh | so very very much. |
| 09:24.49 | jnwhiteh | so I can probably try and reverse lookup using that |
| 09:24.51 | jnwhiteh | thanks =) |
| 09:25.20 | nevcairiel | i dont mind that part of the API, at least the info functions are stateless |
| 09:25.40 | nevcairiel | there is just like 3 map ids that always get confused by eachother! |
| 09:26.49 | nevcairiel | map id, area id, map area id? thats how blizzard seems to call them :p |
| 09:28.23 | Simca | the one the game API calls 'map ID' is the one the DBCs call worldMapID |
| 09:28.51 | Simca | which is the source of much confusion, since there is a mapID in the DBCs that is completely different |
| 09:29.17 | Simca | somebody misnamed them 10 years ago (or whenever) |
| 09:29.58 | mikma | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl8F-8tR8to |
| 09:30.54 | Simca | and yeah GetAreaMapInfo returns the one the DBCs call 'AreaID' |
| 09:32.23 | Simca | i guess the mixup is really because when the API is talking about "maps" it is talking about the images that look like pieces of paper. when the DBCs are talking about maps, they're talking about the physical chunks of land to load into the game. |
| 09:32.57 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/ef9XxuX :) |
| 09:33.31 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 09:33.59 | jnwhiteh | does libmapdata or astrolabe have a reverse lookup table? |
| 09:34.14 | jnwhiteh | so I can give it a WorldMapID(DBC) and get back a mapId? |
| 09:34.24 | jnwhiteh | (that anyone knows about) |
| 09:34.46 | jnwhiteh | the trailing spaces in astrolabe make me want to cry |
| 09:34.49 | jnwhiteh | but that's my editor config |
| 09:34.51 | jnwhiteh | it yells at me. |
| 09:35.28 | mikma | yell back and switch so some manly editor |
| 09:35.32 | mikma | like vi |
| 09:35.44 | Simca | vi, you almost made me lose my milk |
| 09:35.44 | mikma | switch to* |
| 09:36.39 | mikma | oh, wow..... this is bad (warning has been given) http://imgur.com/gallery/k4SWMA0 |
| 09:36.52 | mikma | check your weapon before you start cleaning it, duh |
| 09:38.18 | Simca | dude if I was cleaning a weapon, I would make sure any ammo was on the other side of the room from me |
| 09:38.20 | Simca | but that's just me |
| 09:38.51 | Simca | If you can possibly avoid relying on those two libraries, jnwhiteh, I would |
| 09:39.08 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 09:39.09 | Simca | no offense to the authors but those two are very slow to update and can leave your users SOL after major patches |
| 09:39.13 | jnwhiteh | I don't mind building my main cache |
| 09:39.15 | jnwhiteh | yeah, I know |
| 09:39.19 | jnwhiteh | That's something I need to do |
| 09:40.26 | jnwhiteh | would love to talk some things through with you later, then =) |
| 09:40.38 | jnwhiteh | or if you have anythign that can help me take a WorldMapId and get it to a mapId |
| 09:40.41 | jnwhiteh | that would be useful =) |
| 09:41.10 | jnwhiteh | I never intended to take up mapping: TomTom is just meant to be a UI on top of mapping libs =) |
| 09:41.16 | jnwhiteh | but alas |
| 09:41.16 | nevcairiel | I stopped using those libs as well, but I thought I should wrap all the custom code I wrote into a tiny library to avoid re-writing it when i liberate another addon of them |
| 09:41.30 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 09:41.33 | jnwhiteh | I'd use it |
| 09:41.35 | jnwhiteh | I'd help make it |
| 09:41.36 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* |
| 09:41.39 | jnwhiteh | Code instead of databases |
| 09:41.41 | jnwhiteh | as much as possible |
| 09:41.53 | jnwhiteh | i'm willing to cut functionality, like cross zone distances if I have to =) |
| 09:42.02 | nevcairiel | pretty much all of it exists in GatherMate2 already, including pin drawing stuff that mapdata never had .. |
| 09:42.21 | nevcairiel | cross zone distance is really useful in tomtom imho :p |
| 09:42.24 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 09:42.26 | jnwhiteh | i'd like to retain that |
| 09:42.27 | jnwhiteh | if possible |
| 09:42.32 | jnwhiteh | which means I need layout on the world mpa |
| 09:42.33 | jnwhiteh | and translations |
| 09:42.38 | jnwhiteh | but I think most of that is able to be done right now |
| 09:42.47 | jnwhiteh | a new lib/bit of code that looks at it 100% from the new perspective with no legacy |
| 09:42.51 | jnwhiteh | might come up with something really nice. |
| 09:42.55 | nevcairiel | i never bothered to implement the translation stuff because i didnt have to |
| 09:43.03 | jnwhiteh | I don't know whether I have it in me to do it.. |
| 09:43.06 | nevcairiel | but its probably not too hard |
| 09:43.07 | jnwhiteh | but I guess we never know. |
| 09:43.14 | jnwhiteh | I should probably learn all of this shit |
| 09:43.22 | mikma | nevcairiel: that's why i always went with just english |
| 09:43.26 | jnwhiteh | so ping me with any links you have that I can read upon.. I'll look at GM2 |
| 09:43.36 | jnwhiteh | gotta run to brunch now |
| 09:43.43 | nevcairiel | food sounds like a good idea |
| 09:43.50 | mikma | nah, more coffee |
| 09:43.56 | nevcairiel | mikma: not that kind of translation :p |
| 09:44.24 | mikma | then i think i didn't read the whole thing fully |
| 09:44.28 | mikma | more coffee it is then |
| 09:51.13 | Simca | i know a substantial bit about the mapping DBCs but not much about the mapping API |
| 09:53.56 | Simca | GetWorldMapTransforms - these undocumented functions sound like they might give you the 'left', 'right', 'up', 'down' coordinates so that you can put together a picture of how the maps fit on the continent map |
| 09:54.01 | Simca | zones fit* |
| 09:54.17 | Simca | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetWorldMapTransforms |
| 09:54.17 | Simca | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetWorldMapTransformInfo |
| 09:54.23 | Simca | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetWorldLocFromMapPos |
| 09:54.44 | Simca | if those work like they sound, that should be everything you really need |
| 10:00.34 | nevcairiel | yeah the API gives you all you need, i just never bothered with it yet |
| 10:00.45 | nevcairiel | since i didnt need zone-crossing coordinates in my addons yet |
| 10:08.11 | Simca | according to what I can find on google, those were added in 5.0 |
| 10:08.40 | nevcairiel | they are relatively new, before you needed big tables mined from the dbc |
| 10:09.13 | Simca | heh the most detailed post on them i can find is a question about how they work: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/13087709090#2 |
| 10:10.18 | Simca | GetWorldMapTransform gets 0 hits across the entire Blizzard UI so I guess that's why - they added them and then never used them themselves |
| 10:10.27 | nevcairiel | well its very well known how to apply the transforms, so it just needs confirmation if they return the values just like they are in the dbc, and then we can just use that code we already know |
| 10:15.06 | Simca | it is this table: http://i.imgur.com/plg99SK.png (WorldMapTransforms.dbc) |
| 10:17.09 | Simca | I think that's for overlaying dungeon maps on world maps though |
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| 10:23.43 | mikma | i'm thinking i am stepping a huge step here trying to reproduce php GET into javascript |
| 10:24.14 | mikma | when i start to think that it was only yesterday that i opened up the javascript coding manual and started learning :D |
| 10:27.22 | nevcairiel | Simca: the transforms are for things like ghostlands, where there is a different "continent" (or instance more precisely) that shares a connection with another continent, so you can map distances between their different coordinate systems |
| 10:27.38 | Simca | ah okay |
| 10:28.09 | nevcairiel | they should just merge those into one and get rid of the transforms, but what can you do |
| 10:28.53 | nevcairiel | not sure what all the other rows are for, it used to be a much smaller table .. maybe they use it for some dungeons as well now or something |
| 10:29.18 | Simca | ah it's probably garrisons |
| 10:29.28 | nevcairiel | ah right, that makes sense |
| 10:31.42 | Simca | ah, this is the function he needs |
| 10:31.45 | Simca | GetAreaMapInfo(areaMapID) returns: mapID, areaID, displayMapID, locLeft, locRight, locTop, locBottom, minLevel, maxLevel, flags |
| 10:32.18 | Simca | similar to GetWorldMapTransformInfo except it uses WorldMapArea.dbc which is more useful |
| 10:33.10 | nevcairiel | i think you need both to set it up properly |
| 10:33.47 | Simca | yeah, i suppose so for the occasional ghostlands trip (well, and i guess garrisons are maybe slightly popular) |
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| 11:17.36 | karl_w_w | things I hate: places that make a burger with bread with a crust that is too chewy/crusty to bite through easily |
| 11:18.04 | karl_w_w | dont they understand how burgers are usually eaten? |
| 11:18.28 | karl_w_w | "ooh look our bread is super crusty that means it's better!" |
| 11:28.41 | Mr_Rabies | super crusty bread owns for italian beef sammiches though |
| 11:29.04 | Mr_Rabies | let the broth soak in and the crust becomes a delicious framework for the whole thing |
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| 12:47.00 | jnwhiteh | Simca: nevcairiel: thanks for the notes =) |
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| 12:51.42 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: damn, this is really trim.. |
| 12:58.26 | zenzelezz | pompy: if you're here, T-52 currently |
| 12:59.01 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
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| 13:14.36 | VIad | github framexml only show tekkub but it's old :( anyone had a link to the latest framexml? |
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| 13:20.01 | nevcairiel | ~framexml |
| 13:20.01 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml . |
| 13:20.21 | nevcairiel | also, tekkubs has the latest code |
| 13:23.21 | VIad | says last commit october 2014 |
| 13:23.29 | VIad | (tekkub) |
| 13:23.46 | VIad | townlong yak works |
| 13:24.29 | nevcairiel | there havent been any UI changes since october, you know |
| 13:24.40 | nevcairiel | we havent exactly gotten any patches |
| 13:25.33 | nevcairiel | and if you want ptr changes, you should just click on the thing that says "branch: live" and select "ptr" <.< |
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| 14:18.26 | zenzelezz | http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=6871867&cid=48940869 - nice post actually |
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| 14:40.32 | jnwhiteh | Are there any quest log replacements |
| 14:40.35 | jnwhiteh | that bring back the normal doublewide? |
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| 14:40.50 | jnwhiteh | i know there are i'm just not sure what they are =) |
| 14:42.10 | Fisker | foot cramps though jnwhiteh |
| 14:52.28 | MiRai | jnwhiteh: http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/classic-quest-log |
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| 14:57.23 | zenzelezz | MiRai: what a cryptic name for such an addon :D |
| 14:57.30 | zenzelezz | it's weird... but I'd probably not think to search for that |
| 14:57.43 | nebula169 | didn't ethan have one, too? |
| 14:57.55 | nevcairiel | his is called legacy quest log i think |
| 14:58.01 | MiRai | yeah, there is another, but I forget the name of it |
| 14:58.18 | MiRai | I use the Classic one myself, so that's why I know it |
| 14:58.22 | nevcairiel | #define STREAM_COPY_LINE |
| 14:58.25 | nevcairiel | woops |
| 14:58.28 | nevcairiel | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/legacy-quest |
| 14:58.46 | nevcairiel | recently my chrome keeps resetting focus in the damn url input line, its f'ing annoying |
| 15:02.36 | awestroke | what's the latest load event I can use for initialize? I want to do some stuff after I am sure everything else has loaded |
| 15:02.42 | awestroke | player_entering_world is too soon |
| 15:02.52 | nebula169 | PLAYER_LOGIN is usually fine |
| 15:03.39 | nebula169 | actually, pretty sure PEW is after that, whats not loaded at that point? |
| 15:04.00 | nevcairiel | pretty much anything should be available to addons in PEW |
| 15:04.10 | nevcairiel | and all other addons loaded |
| 15:04.11 | nebula169 | ^ |
| 15:04.58 | awestroke | My problem is that I do some calculations on player items as well as addon db data, and it's incorrect (does not include everything) on the first login, but like 0.5 sec after player login it's correct. If I reload ui or just relog, it calculates correctly on player entering world |
| 15:05.20 | awestroke | I'm gonna debug it now, but not sure how |
| 15:05.32 | Kesava | Stanzilla: http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/kuinameplates#c478 y/n |
| 15:06.05 | nebula169 | items are probably the issue, there can be some cache issues at first login |
| 15:06.29 | awestroke | nebula169: how should I solve that? |
| 15:06.41 | awestroke | I am doing tooltip scanning as part of the calculation |
| 15:07.17 | awestroke | some kind of if(fail) then try_again_in_100ms() end ? |
| 15:09.47 | nebula169 | not sure! running GetItemInfo(id) on all the saved ids at login seems to work with having them display correctly later, not sure how long it takes to get results from the server on a cache miss |
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| 15:27.33 | karl_w_w | VIad, http://www.gfycat.com/NaughtyEmotionalBellsnake |
| 15:28.50 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pDVd_jmPoc better quality |
| 15:33.38 | awestroke | anyone know if I can write some kind of isItemCached(link) function? |
| 15:34.22 | awestroke | nm, guess GetItemInfo does that |
| 15:38.18 | foxlit | There is no guaranteed event for this anyway |
| 15:39.04 | foxlit | Player inventory/container item data can lag on the order of minutes. |
| 15:40.36 | foxlit | (There is an event that fires when local item cache is updated, but it's somewhat inconvenient for this) |
| 15:42.59 | Fisker | Yeah that's pretty annoying when it does that |
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| 15:54.57 | g0urra | oh, pirate bay is back |
| 15:55.05 | g0urra | inb4 "oooooold" -Fisker |
| 15:55.26 | awestroke | foxlit: it seems that I get a PLAYER_INVENTORY_UPDATED each time an item in inventory gets cached, so I can rely on thatt |
| 15:55.49 | awestroke | nebula169: thanks for the tip, would never have figured out that it had to do with item caching |
| 15:55.54 | awestroke | works great now |
| 15:56.00 | nebula169 | :D |
| 15:57.06 | Fisker | I don't really go "ooooold" g0urra |
| 15:57.22 | Fisker | And why would I do that regarding pirate bay being back? I'm not a pirate after all |
| 16:07.31 | awestroke | any drawbacks of submitting addons to curse or entering the reward program? |
| 16:08.47 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:11.58 | karl_w_w | Hey Fisker, what is the difference between Undertaker and Hosty? Undertaker might still be seen in tournaments. |
| 16:12.39 | Fisker | wow rude |
| 16:13.07 | Fisker | I don't think he was cheating though karl_w_w |
| 16:13.14 | Fisker | Just like RDU wasn't back at dreamhack |
| 16:13.32 | karl_w_w | I can't think of a good reason to have the stream open |
| 16:14.48 | Fisker | background music was pretty good |
| 16:18.18 | Xinhuan | furthermore, it never occurred to him that maybe, just _maybe_ he should have closed the stream when he saw his own _currently in progress_ game appear on the stream |
| 16:19.28 | Xinhuan | you would have to be pretty dense or autistic not to realize its cheating |
| 16:20.09 | karl_w_w | http://www.reddit.com/r/oldschoolcool Fisker :D |
| 16:20.40 | Fisker | Stop being a stalker karl_w_w |
| 16:30.04 | karl_w_w | but I like to watch you sleep Fisker |
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| 16:40.58 | znf | So, what the hell is the "current" AMD Socket? |
| 16:41.01 | znf | I'm confused as hell |
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| 16:43.10 | nebula169 | confused howso? desktop is am3+ (fx) or fm2+ (apu) |
| 16:43.20 | nebula169 | not sure about anything fancier than that |
| 16:43.37 | znf | Why the hell do they have different sockets for what seems to be the same segment? :-/ |
| 16:44.17 | nebula169 | intel tends to have atleast two |
| 16:44.45 | znf | Indeed, but those seem to be clearer - one is for the extreme line, and one for the "standard" line, to say so |
| 16:45.11 | nebula169 | well the examples i gave are desktop processors and apus soooo |
| 16:45.33 | znf | Not sure why the distinction |
| 16:45.46 | znf | I mean, if I want an AMD pc now, do I want an APU? |
| 16:45.55 | nebula169 | probably not |
| 16:46.04 | nebula169 | depends on what you're doing |
| 16:46.20 | znf | How do they compare to the FX ones? |
| 16:47.13 | znf | I notice there's also AM1, but it's for "low end segment SoC" |
| 16:51.43 | Torhal | awestroke, foxlit: Taxable if you redeem $500 or more in a year. |
| 16:52.12 | foxlit | than you for accepting tax liability if that turns out not to be the case, Torhal the international tax attorney :) |
| 16:55.53 | Fisker | Don't get yourself into trouble Torhal |
| 16:55.54 | Fisker | :'( |
| 16:57.34 | Torhal | Nope |
| 16:57.49 | Torhal | I assume liability only for my own points |
| 16:58.01 | Torhal | Easy enough, since it's taken directly from my paycheck. |
| 16:58.02 | Torhal | :D |
| 16:59.05 | Fisker | I'll pay your check |
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| 17:05.03 | karl_w_w | wow znf complaining about AMD sockets |
| 17:05.19 | znf | not complaining, I'm trying to understand them :P |
| 17:05.37 | znf | would have been easier to just build the APU in all of them like Intel does *shrug* |
| 17:05.38 | karl_w_w | the real question is why do intel need a new socket for every single generation with no backward compatibility :P |
| 17:05.51 | Neffi | well, every 2 generations |
| 17:06.30 | Neffi | but meh. it's irrelevant. we're not seeing huge 60% boosts with new chips. no reason to upgrade your CPU more often than every few years now |
| 17:07.20 | znf | ~2-3 years is more than acceptable for most people |
| 17:07.20 | purl | znf: okay |
| 17:07.23 | znf | heck, even more |
| 17:07.31 | znf | purl, forget 2-3 years |
| 17:07.32 | purl | i forgot 2-3 years, znf |
| 17:07.54 | Neffi | lol |
| 17:08.07 | Neffi | ~2-3 |
| 17:08.07 | purl | -1 |
| 17:08.12 | Neffi | ah, ok |
| 17:16.50 | Kesava | Stanzilla: nvm, he has tidyplates installed as well as knp. so he's silly. |
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| 17:50.53 | Semlar | aw i missed all the map stuff |
| 17:51.08 | Neffi | late Semlar |
| 17:51.13 | Semlar | my fault for not being on at 4am |
| 17:51.22 | Neffi | like, seriously |
| 17:53.17 | mikma | hah |
| 17:53.19 | mikma | so you did |
| 17:58.56 | Fisker | Damn karl_w_w |
| 17:59.25 | Fisker | Lifecoach won on stalling dethelor |
| 17:59.27 | Fisker | :3 |
| 17:59.35 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 18:03.29 | karl_w_w | Fisker, i beat this priest by fatiguing him with his own northshire cleric using only a healing totem |
| 18:05.04 | Fisker | That's good |
| 18:07.04 | karl_w_w | Fisker, does combo druid run mind control tech? |
| 18:07.20 | Fisker | idk |
| 18:07.44 | karl_w_w | okay |
| 18:09.58 | fewyn | sigh looks like i can't raid for the forseeable future, tried to raid today on this connection but 5000ms ping |
| 18:10.43 | karl_w_w | did you try stopping your porn download? |
| 18:10.55 | fewyn | who downloads porn? |
| 18:11.19 | Fisker | Who doesn't? |
| 18:11.31 | fewyn | streaming porn is where it's at |
| 18:11.38 | kd3 | streaming counts as downloading, if only to the browser cache |
| 18:11.39 | Fisker | That's the same |
| 18:11.50 | Fisker | kd3 knows what's up |
| 18:12.08 | Fisker | hugtackles Cairenn |
| 18:12.34 | Semlar | tries to calm fisker down |
| 18:12.42 | Fisker | I'm calm |
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| 18:37.54 | jnwhiteh | Hrm |
| 18:37.59 | jnwhiteh | anyone want to help me draft an arena deck |
| 18:38.02 | jnwhiteh | i want to get better at it |
| 18:38.44 | Fisker | www.heartharena.com |
| 18:39.02 | Fisker | Otherwise look up trump's YouTube videos |
| 18:41.01 | karl_w_w | hey Fisker |
| 18:41.05 | karl_w_w | rope to hero power? |
| 18:41.18 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 18:41.26 | Fisker | The turn before it was harder |
| 18:41.50 | Fisker | boops jnwhiteh |
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| 18:45.38 | karl_w_w | disaster! |
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| 19:11.25 | karl_w_w | Fisker I think piloted shredder is rigged |
| 19:11.45 | karl_w_w | the number of times I have got captain's parrot out of it is ridiculous |
| 19:32.47 | karl_w_w | anyone got any spectacular jokes? |
| 19:55.53 | Dagmar | The GOP does. Just look at Ted Cruz. |
| 19:56.12 | Neffi | haha |
| 19:56.42 | Neffi | I think Mitch McConnel is the funnier joke though |
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| 19:57.05 | Neffi | it's really hard to say though. the GOP has so many gems |
| 19:58.27 | fewyn | women full of binders? |
| 19:58.43 | fewyn | no wait the other way around |
| 19:58.57 | Neffi | haha http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/s4z9il/-mcconnelling |
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| 20:05.42 | raydion | I am running into a weird thing here. |
| 20:06.14 | raydion | Say, /use Ravager (newline) /use Berserker Rage |
| 20:07.01 | raydion | Berserker Rage GCD: 0 sec. |
| 20:07.39 | raydion | Ravager GCD: 1.5 sec |
| 20:07.46 | raydion | It should theoretically work. |
| 20:08.21 | raydion | If I have only /use Ravager in the macro, it will display the targeting circle. |
| 20:08.44 | raydion | If I have also Berserker Rage in the macro, it will fail with UNIT_SPELLCAST_FAILED_QUIET |
| 20:09.17 | raydion | (Berserker Rage will continue to work anyway, but Ravager is stuck.) |
| 20:09.47 | raydion | Nobody has the problems I do .. |
| 20:10.12 | karl_w_w | put berserker rage first |
| 20:10.31 | Neffi | I suspect it's because of the targeting circle |
| 20:10.49 | raydion | Oooooooh. |
| 20:10.55 | raydion | Hmm yes, that works. |
| 20:10.56 | Neffi | normally the order shouldn't matter if one of them is off the GCD. that was fixed long ago. but I suspect the 2nd cast is cancelling the targeting circle |
| 20:11.10 | Neffi | theoretically any spell without a GCD should be castable during a GCD |
| 20:11.11 | raydion | Yeah, I understand that now. >_< |
| 20:11.48 | raydion | It works, thanks a lot! ^^ |
| 20:11.52 | Neffi | np |
| 20:12.33 | raydion | How are you guys doing by the way? |
| 20:16.32 | Neffi | meh |
| 20:18.13 | raydion | Aww. |
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| 21:18.59 | plaw | tackle hugs karl_w_w |
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| 21:42.58 | kullervo | do BGs have some protection now? |
| 21:43.05 | kullervo | this addon can't display people's roles |
| 21:43.26 | Neffi | hmm? what addon? |
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| 21:43.47 | nevcairiel | of the enemies? i dont think you could ever probe the enemies roles |
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| 21:44.07 | nevcairiel | you can just guess based on stats, buffs, spells they use :d |
| 21:45.01 | Simca_ | there used to be way more buffs in MoP and previous expansions that indicated spec |
| 21:45.04 | Neffi | hmm, I can't recall, isn't their spec available on the scoreboard? |
| 21:45.16 | Neffi | or was it just class? |
| 21:45.26 | nevcairiel | i think class only |
| 21:45.36 | Neffi | My UFs were guessing based on that, but I can't remember if I was marking "potential" healers as healers |
| 21:45.40 | Simca_ | i know it says spec but i think that might be endgame only |
| 21:45.49 | nevcairiel | yeah the end summary might contain more |
| 21:46.02 | Neffi | well if the UI shows enemy specs, you can definitely tell who's a proper healer |
| 21:46.02 | kullervo | nevcairiel: neemies show up just fine |
| 21:52.36 | kd3 | impressive: http://i.imgur.com/kDjnAQu.gif |
| 21:53.23 | Fisker | Wat |
| 21:56.31 | Shirik | wait wtf |
| 21:56.44 | Shirik | it took me a few times watching that to understand what it was |
| 21:57.08 | Fisker | I still don't |
| 21:57.22 | Shirik | try looking at the front more closely |
| 21:57.42 | Thunder_Child | It's a horeless carriage, duh. |
| 21:57.47 | kd3 | the truck hauling it broke the hitch or something, so the trailer's still moving under it's own inertia |
| 21:58.32 | Neffi | gotta love password policies |
| 21:58.46 | Neffi | my 16-character completely random password isn't considered strong enough |
| 21:58.59 | Gnarfoz | Simca_: any idea if the removal of the "straight to 615/630/645" tokens from the salvage loot list is going to affect the drop chance of the +3/+6/+9 upgrade tokens? |
| 21:58.59 | Neffi | but this would be: Passwo1 |
| 21:59.57 | Gnarfoz | Neffi: which is yours lacking? number or upper-case character? ^^ |
| 22:00.39 | Simca_ | hmm |
| 22:00.48 | Neffi | uppercase |
| 22:01.03 | Simca_ | idk, i wouldn't think so |
| 22:01.04 | Neffi | it's hard for me to memorize that many characters if I mix case |
| 22:01.28 | Simca_ | but it isn't that unlikely |
| 22:01.49 | Gnarfoz | considering just saving up my crates |
| 22:02.23 | Simca_ | i do that with invasion bags |
| 22:02.31 | Simca_ | (i don't have a trading post atm) |
| 22:02.41 | Gnarfoz | why (and why is that relevant) |
| 22:03.05 | Simca_ | they drop trading post parts at a relatively high rate |
| 22:03.33 | Gnarfoz | for the auction thing? |
| 22:03.38 | Simca_ | yeah |
| 22:03.44 | Simca_ | the arcane ones only, which are the most worthless, but it's still a bit of gold |
| 22:03.52 | Gnarfoz | ok, that's not worth waiting on for me, I don't auction on my main anyway |
| 22:03.56 | Simca_ | and one of the four arcane parts -only- comes from the bag |
| 22:04.03 | Simca_ | sells for a couple hundred gold |
| 22:04.15 | Simca_ | (the other 3 are worth like 20g) |
| 22:05.12 | Fisker | I'd just get that from the auction house |
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| 22:35.19 | Fisker | Hey haste |
| 22:38.05 | Thunder_Child | Gnarfoz: My limit so far is 55 crates, but it's all from laziness. |
| 22:38.20 | Gnarfoz | I just opened 112, same reason |
| 22:51.33 | p3lim | lua> true |
| 22:51.36 | p3lim | do we still have that bot? |
| 22:54.18 | Gnarfoz | obviously not |
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| 22:55.50 | Torhal | Cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/3znThtz.gif |
| 22:56.09 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:56.12 | Cairenn | silly cat |
| 22:57.13 | Thunder_Child | Or very lazy./ |
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| 23:08.36 | fewyn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_%282015_TV_series%29 |
| 23:08.41 | fewyn | this show is pretty damn good |
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| 23:17.48 | zenzelezz | so I was walking home from a party and spotted this... http://imgur.com/esE6lQR |
| 23:18.40 | Gnarfoz | so? |
| 23:19.03 | zenzelezz | well, a 10-meter "higher than 30 km/h"-zone seems useless |
| 23:19.19 | mikma | umh |
| 23:19.27 | mikma | that's still pretty clear to me |
| 23:19.35 | zenzelezz | it's clear, just doesn't make sense |
| 23:20.53 | Gnarfoz | the distance between the signs is just so you can actually read the second one? :p |
| 23:21.08 | Gnarfoz | makes perfect sense since they don't both mean the same thing |
| 23:21.26 | zenzelezz | well, it's saying "until here you were limited to 30; now you can accelerate past this. <10 meter> you are now limited to 30" |
| 23:21.45 | Gnarfoz | except the first signs ends a 30 zone, which is not the same as the other sign |
| 23:23.09 | zenzelezz | well, first of all, you're not fun. Second, come to Norway |
| 23:23.25 | Gnarfoz | and if you manage to actually gain any meaningful speed between those two signs, I want that car :P since the second sign also means "you have to be driving 30 here already", so you have like 5 m to accelerate, if that :P |
| 23:23.44 | zenzelezz | that's what I was getting at |
| 23:24.24 | Gnarfoz | sighs |
| 23:24.32 | nevcairiel | you should come to germany, we have plenty redundant and pointless signage .. if this is a special occurance for you in norway, be happy :p |
| 23:24.42 | Gnarfoz | this signage is not redudant, though |
| 23:24.46 | Neffi | wait, you have minimum speed signs? |
| 23:24.55 | Gnarfoz | those are speed limits. |
| 23:24.57 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: no, but pointless could be argued :d |
| 23:25.03 | nevcairiel | (the first one) |
| 23:25.06 | Gnarfoz | no, it couldn't, they don't mean the same things. |
| 23:25.36 | Gnarfoz | (also, yes, we also do have minimum speed signs, I've only ever seen them on the Autobahn, though) |
| 23:25.45 | Neffi | oh |
| 23:25.47 | zenzelezz | I'd keep arguing, but I'm drunk and trolling in World of Tanks |
| 23:26.26 | nevcairiel | oh thats supposed to be a 30 zone sign? i guess it makes actually sense then |
| 23:26.40 | Gnarfoz | the first one ends a 30 zone, the second one starts a regular 30 speed limit |
| 23:27.01 | Gnarfoz | and since a 30 zone and a 30 speed limit are not the same, both signs make sense |
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| 23:27.35 | Gnarfoz | they could have put them on the same signpost, but maybe that wasn't possible while also fulfilling height requirements |
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| 23:33.24 | Gnarfoz | what's the quickest (faster than 30 km/h :D) way to get to Pandaria from Draenor? |
| 23:33.41 | Gnarfoz | (preferrably close to Vale of Eternal Blossoms) |
| 23:33.42 | Iriel | Gnarfoz: garrison hearthstone 8-) |
| 23:34.07 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: stormshield, stormwind, portal to town in jade forest |
| 23:34.36 | Iriel | Oh, I had the direction wrong - I should have just said âHearthstoneâ |
| 23:34.44 | Iriel | (mineâs still in pandaria) |
| 23:34.55 | Iriel | But yes, what nevcairiel said |
| 23:35.25 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 23:35.40 | Gnarfoz | I used my timeless isle trinket, but I guess jade forest might be a bit quicker since I can fly there |
| 23:36.05 | nevcairiel | yeah getting from isel to shrine isnt all that quick |
| 23:36.08 | nevcairiel | isle* |
| 23:36.49 | Gethe | if you did challenge modes in MoP, the port to mogu shan palace |
| 23:37.00 | Gnarfoz | derp |
| 23:37.02 | Gnarfoz | good point! |
| 23:37.06 | Gnarfoz | I always forget those |
| 23:37.18 | nevcairiel | i cant forget those since i dont have those! |
| 23:37.28 | Gnarfoz | (: |
| 23:38.27 | Gnarfoz | shame none of those is on Kalimdor or Northrend ^^ |
| 23:38.27 | Torhal | nevcairiel: WTB library. :D |
| 23:39.00 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: dalaran port ring is good enough for northrend really |
| 23:39.09 | Gnarfoz | sure, but that takes up space |
| 23:39.20 | Gnarfoz | also, tournament tabard |
| 23:39.22 | nevcairiel | what are the CM ports? spells? |
| 23:39.26 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 23:39.37 | Gnarfoz | one flyout spell menu in the spellbook |
| 23:39.44 | nevcairiel | i see |
| 23:39.57 | Gethe | can you still get the MoP ones? or did they take those too? |
| 23:40.09 | nevcairiel | probably cant |
| 23:40.41 | nevcairiel | or just be druid and use that glyph t hat gets you a fancy random port |
| 23:41.09 | nevcairiel | unfortunately none in draenor |
| 23:41.20 | nevcairiel | or in outlands for that matter |
| 23:41.34 | foxlit | clearly time for an angry forum topic remanding those ports. |
| 23:41.58 | nevcairiel | i suppose it kinda makes sense, cant leave your own planet with it |
| 23:42.09 | nevcairiel | just the 4 continents actually on azeroth |
| 23:43.06 | nevcairiel | not that i use it, you come out in the weirdest spots and when you need to go to one specifically it akes like 10 casts to get there |
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| 23:48.51 | Neffi | https://github.com/thiagopnts/groot |
| 23:49.40 | foxlit | "language" |
| 23:50.12 | foxlit | I wish people would stop reskinning brainfuck and calling the result something new. |
| 23:50.32 | Gnarfoz | I was about to say something along those lines ^^ |
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