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| 00:04.43 | Simca_ | foxlit: every single one has a follower who has triggered the overitemleveled bonus |
| 00:05.07 | Simca_ | guess that really is wrong |
| 00:06.06 | foxlit | no, that's just an artifact of how this is filtered. |
| 00:07.41 | foxlit | for all of these, assume that the followers are at the mission's nominal level; this should presumably yield the success chance that's displayed next to the mission. |
| 00:07.55 | foxlit | however, the true success chance is *worse*. |
| 00:10.05 | Stanzilla | wow http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/15699677115 |
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| 00:32.14 | Simca_ | i guess i have to assume the base success chance is 0, foxlit? |
| 00:32.22 | Simca_ | and your addon doesn't record true success chance? |
| 00:34.25 | foxlit | base is 0; I have the game-projected success chance somewhere, but it's not on that page. |
| 00:35.04 | Simca_ | kk, i'll put a few of them through my spreadsheet and see if i come up with anything obvious |
| 00:38.27 | Simca_ | is the fact that all of these are ilvl 630 four mechanic missions also a sorting artifact? |
| 00:45.05 | Simca_ | your calculations look solid |
| 00:46.37 | Unkle | So... Sony's proposed settlement of the Class Action suit against them would amount to about $4.50 in Station Cash for me. |
| 00:52.04 | Simca_ | they can settle in station cash? |
| 00:52.10 | Simca_ | or is that just an option |
| 01:03.24 | foxlit | Simca_: is the fact that all of these are ilvl 630 four mechanic missions also a sorting artifact? << not explicitly, though it may still be. |
| 01:04.17 | foxlit | higher-level missions are rare, so I have very few (if any?) highmaul data points; lower-level missions might get carried more easily. |
| 01:05.22 | Simca_ | k. i can debug farther once real success chance is listed alongside calculated |
| 01:05.42 | Simca_ | for now, assuming the followers ilvl is irrelevant, your calculations look right |
| 01:06.10 | foxlit | in any case, it'd be strange if increased follower ilvl lowered success chance. |
| 01:07.30 | Simca_ | true |
| 01:08.26 | Simca_ | i didn't have a lot (any?) ilvl 630 missions to look at when doing the formulas, so it is possible there is essentially a "difficulty modifier" in play where mission ilvl affects the contribution from followers |
| 01:08.38 | Simca_ | something small enough it wouldn't manifest itself at 615 |
| 01:20.20 | fewyn | ugh |
| 01:20.28 | fewyn | seriously why are the garrison servers dead again |
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| 01:39.02 | Primer | kd3: Do you raid in wow running in wine? |
| 01:39.11 | fewyn | the new mythbusters format i like, i thought i might have missed the "build team" but i like seeing more of adam and jamie building stuff |
| 01:39.24 | Primer | kd3: I tried it last week. 20 some peoeple. Same issue as always, as soon as combat starts, FPS is in the shitter. |
| 01:40.09 | Primer | I've been in Ashran before, watching literally hundreds of players and NPCs with all the effects going nuts, frame rate is fine. As soon as combat starts, < 1 FPS |
| 01:42.41 | Stanzilla | addons? |
| 01:42.55 | Primer | Well, wouldn't CPU spike if that was the case? |
| 01:43.00 | kd3 | the only raiding I do these days is lfr |
| 01:43.06 | kd3 | but even then, I bottom out at 15fps |
| 01:43.26 | Primer | I don't see any one CPU core ever flat-lining |
| 01:43.42 | Primer | core usage never goes above 50% |
| 01:45.32 | Primer | I have affinity set to use 4 cores too |
| 01:45.51 | Primer | but even when it's set to 2, core usage doesn't go above 50% |
| 01:49.45 | tz | out of curiosity, have you done an event trace and see if something stupid is happening there? |
| 01:50.14 | Primer | Moi? |
| 01:50.20 | tz | yep |
| 01:50.29 | Primer | I can tell you I get a lot of "script ran too long" |
| 01:50.41 | tz | hmmm |
| 01:51.09 | foxlit | kill all onevent/onupdate handlers, see if problem goes away. |
| 01:51.12 | tz | I know when I change specs on my monk I start getting spurious UNIT_POWER[_FREQUENT] events coming thru for mana updates, despite being energy-based... wondering if something silly is happening |
| 01:52.38 | Simca_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.39 | Primer | foxlit: as in, alt-z? |
| 01:52.48 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.59 | Primer | lovely |
| 01:55.12 | Primer | hah, can't even cast when all that shit's disabled |
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| 01:56.23 | foxlit | keybindings/clicking should still work, unless your action bars are powered by weirdness. |
| 01:58.16 | Simca_ | you wouldn't see any indication that you cast anything though |
| 01:58.35 | Primer | they're powered by macros |
| 01:58.53 | Simca_ | and yeah, disabling EVERYTHING EVER might solve your issue but you might need to take more practical debugging steps to resolve it without obliterating your UI |
| 01:59.13 | foxlit | then again, it might also not solve your issue. |
| 01:59.23 | foxlit | which would be far more interesting. |
| 01:59.56 | Simca_ | fairly unlikely considering he's probably knocked out 95% of the scripting with that command, not many scripts to run long now |
| 02:00.36 | Simca_ | could be something weird like OnKeyDown i guess |
| 02:00.42 | foxlit | well, Primer, did we fix your dps while breaking your UI? |
| 02:00.47 | foxlit | s/dp/fp/ |
| 02:00.57 | Primer | I'd have to join a raid and try to dps to find out |
| 02:01.05 | Primer | I have the opportunity to do so right now... |
| 02:01.18 | Primer | but yeah, if I can't cast...I'm not gonna be much good |
| 02:01.32 | Simca_ | equip a wand, right-click |
| 02:01.34 | Simca_ | you'll be fine |
| 02:01.42 | Simca_ | do an LFR, you'll probably top meters |
| 02:01.48 | Semlar | not that you could tell |
| 02:01.52 | Semlar | without any events |
| 02:02.19 | Simca_ | if you suddenly end up back in your garrison: you probably didn't top meters |
| 02:02.22 | Simca_ | :D |
| 02:02.47 | foxlit | meh, nobody gets kicked from lfr. |
| 02:03.08 | Semlar | not if you can keep them in combat, at any rate |
| 02:03.37 | Semlar | plus he won't be able to roll on anything and you can't kick someone during a loot roll |
| 02:04.01 | nebula169 | foxlit: huh? someone says a person is afk and like 5s later they're gone |
| 02:04.04 | Simca_ | haha |
| 02:04.06 | Primer | LFR is personal loot |
| 02:04.13 | Simca_ | greens |
| 02:04.15 | Semlar | greens are personal loot too? |
| 02:04.45 | fewyn | we tried personal loot in our normal raids... first 3 bosses dropped no items |
| 02:04.50 | fewyn | so we refuse to turn it on now |
| 02:04.55 | Semlar | i don't believe that |
| 02:04.57 | nebula169 | that's unfortunate |
| 02:05.00 | fewyn | it happened |
| 02:05.03 | Primer | One thing is for sure...if I turn of PB4, the frame rate improves |
| 02:05.07 | fewyn | gms said tough shit pmuch |
| 02:05.16 | Semlar | we do personal loot for normal mode |
| 02:05.22 | Semlar | and the bosses all drop like 5 items |
| 02:05.30 | fewyn | this was like |
| 02:05.31 | fewyn | week 2 |
| 02:05.54 | Semlar | i assume it's tuned to drop the number that the bosses would have dropped on other loot methods |
| 02:06.06 | Semlar | since that's the only thing that would make any sense |
| 02:06.17 | fewyn | people did get stuff, but only with bonus rolls |
| 02:06.30 | fewyn | the first 3 bosses dropped no loot |
| 02:06.31 | nebula169 | i think our first alt raid we did personal, and i think it averaged around 6 people got loot per boss (~25 man raid) |
| 02:06.57 | Simca_ | it's tricky to say how loot compares mode to mode |
| 02:07.26 | Simca_ | there's actually some debate on the statistics of it (i.e. did blizzard purposefully balance personal loot to drop slightly less to encourage master looter use) |
| 02:07.44 | Semlar | and what, not tell anybody? |
| 02:07.48 | Semlar | how effective would that be |
| 02:08.07 | fewyn | we just don't want to chance bosses not dropping loot |
| 02:08.12 | fewyn | maybe when the content is on farm |
| 02:08.19 | fewyn | we'll turn it back to personal |
| 02:08.26 | Simca_ | and there are some other arguments as well - the further you get along into the raid tier, the less likely it is that the loot you get on personal loot will be useful for you |
| 02:08.28 | Semlar | i refuse to believe a raid boss wouldn't drop anything on personal loot |
| 02:08.35 | Semlar | even if you were super unlucky |
| 02:08.36 | fewyn | except it's possible Semlar |
| 02:08.42 | fewyn | that's what we were told |
| 02:08.51 | nebula169 | Semlar: they said it was possible, no loot to drop and everyone in the raid to get loot |
| 02:08.52 | fewyn | everyone in the raid got the same response when we opened a ticket |
| 02:09.03 | Semlar | it seems statistically unlikely |
| 02:09.07 | nebula169 | well obviously |
| 02:09.08 | fewyn | it is |
| 02:09.14 | Semlar | i can see a heroic boss dropping nothing because they only drop one item |
| 02:09.15 | fewyn | esp for 3 bosses |
| 02:09.18 | fewyn | we thought it was a bug |
| 02:09.20 | Simca_ | so there is definitely going to be a statistical gearing point where master loot rewards more useful gear to the right players than personal loot could |
| 02:09.24 | fewyn | which is why we opened tickets |
| 02:09.26 | Semlar | but there are a ton of people in a raid |
| 02:09.34 | fewyn | we had i think 17 people |
| 02:09.51 | Semlar | i wonder exactly how it's calculated |
| 02:10.04 | fewyn | would be interesting |
| 02:10.05 | fewyn | to know |
| 02:10.06 | Semlar | does everyone get a percentage chance to get loot based on what would have dropped |
| 02:10.20 | Semlar | say 5% |
| 02:10.47 | Simca_ | it might be defined in CurvePoint.db2 |
| 02:10.49 | nebula169 | doubtful, i'd imagine boss dies, roll for getting loot, then roll for which loot from the list |
| 02:10.58 | Simca_ | that DB2 is filled with random shit nobody has ever figured out |
| 02:11.27 | Semlar | right well the roll for getting loot would just be a % based chance |
| 02:11.41 | Semlar | i don't know what it would be based on though |
| 02:12.23 | Semlar | in a heroic, where you have a boss that drops 1 item and 5 people would be rolling on it, does that make it a 20% chance on personal rolls that you get loot? |
| 02:16.21 | Simca_ | ideally it is a 20% chance everywhere tbh |
| 02:16.34 | Simca_ | if you have 10 people, 10 person raid drops 2 items, averages to 20% per person |
| 02:16.44 | Simca_ | 25 raid drops 5 items, averages to 20% per person |
| 02:17.04 | Simca_ | bonus rolls have traditionally used a 15% chance though |
| 02:22.11 | nebula169 | wonder if personal loot inhereits the bonus roll "unlucky streak" bump in chance, or if that's even still a thing |
| 02:22.24 | Simca_ | ... why is this quote in my assembly classes' textbook |
| 02:22.46 | Simca_ | "I speak Spanish to God, Italian to women, French to my men, and German to my horse." |
| 02:22.57 | Stanzilla | at which level do rogues get the new max skill for lock picking now? 100? |
| 02:23.10 | Simca_ | yeah |
| 02:23.16 | Stanzilla | damnit |
| 02:26.12 | Neffi | Simca_: I sincerely want to know who wrote that book |
| 02:26.24 | Neffi | and how many drugs they consume on a regular basis |
| 02:34.17 | Simca_ | a lot apparently |
| 02:36.59 | Semlar | http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Charles_V,_Holy_Roman_Emperor |
| 02:37.24 | Semlar | is this the author of your assembly book |
| 02:38.21 | Neffi | kein Semlar |
| 02:38.36 | Semlar | why's he holding a stick in this painting |
| 02:38.58 | Neffi | Weil Sie ein Pferd, Semlar. |
| 02:39.26 | Semlar | nein neffi |
| 02:41.34 | Neffi | also, Semlar, "Misattributed" |
| 02:41.59 | Semlar | "Charles V may have said something in this general format" neffi |
| 02:42.08 | Neffi | or may not have. who knows? |
| 02:42.17 | Semlar | well i say he did |
| 02:42.27 | Semlar | and i can edit wikipedia to back me up |
| 02:42.29 | Neffi | bill clinton may have said "would you like to come back to my place?" |
| 02:42.44 | Semlar | SOMEBODY FUCKING SAID IT |
| 02:42.59 | Neffi | well, the person who added it to wikiquite certainly did |
| 02:44.49 | Semlar | i released an addon today neffi |
| 02:44.59 | Neffi | I don't believe you |
| 02:45.06 | Semlar | no it's true |
| 02:45.19 | Neffi | but it's so out of character for you |
| 02:46.22 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:47.03 | Semlar | and it's got 7 whole downloads |
| 02:47.33 | Stanzilla | 03:38:48 â Neffi: Weil Sie ein Pferd, Semlar. < haha |
| 02:48.11 | Neffi | phew, I thought Google Translate mangled that |
| 02:48.17 | Neffi | (or maybe it did, into something funnier?) |
| 02:48.35 | Neffi | Semlar: oh, cool |
| 02:48.53 | Stanzilla | Neffi: no it's almost right, just missing the "are" (sind) |
| 02:49.15 | Neffi | one day I'll get around to learning German |
| 02:49.19 | Neffi | that day is probably not today |
| 02:49.25 | Stanzilla | don't bother |
| 02:49.36 | Neffi | <_< |
| 02:49.47 | Neffi | I figure it'll be a productive use of my time |
| 02:49.54 | Stanzilla | learn chinese then |
| 02:49.56 | Neffi | teach me a skill I don't know |
| 02:50.00 | Neffi | meh |
| 02:50.15 | Neffi | I have no interest in visiting east Asia. But I may just visit Germany at some point |
| 02:50.34 | Semlar | plus learning german will be quite a lot easier than learning chinese |
| 02:50.42 | Neffi | yeah probably |
| 02:50.49 | Semlar | NOT PROBABLY |
| 02:50.50 | Neffi | if I wanted to be practical, I'd learn Spanish |
| 02:50.56 | Neffi | German seems cooler though |
| 02:51.21 | Stanzilla | from what I gathered, chinese is a looot more about pronunciation |
| 02:51.47 | Stanzilla | and german just has special cases for everything because fuck you that's why |
| 02:52.06 | Neffi | then I should feel right at home, as an English native |
| 02:52.13 | Stanzilla | learned a new grammar rule? tried to apply it to words? nope, special case |
| 02:53.58 | Semlar | grammar nazi |
| 03:01.03 | Neffi | stop being offensive Semlar |
| 03:01.47 | Semlar | no neffi |
| 03:01.59 | Thunder_Child | Neffi: Go balls out and do Finnish. |
| 03:02.54 | Neffi | why do my balls need to be out? |
| 03:02.57 | Neffi | is it a Finnish thing? |
| 03:04.00 | Thunder_Child | Sorry, inside phrasing amongst friends. |
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| 03:04.23 | Neffi | I was just playing dense ;) |
| 03:04.45 | Thunder_Child | Although I bet the most practial language to learn atm is Chinese. |
| 03:04.59 | Thunder_Child | Since they will own us all soon. |
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| 03:17.23 | Simca_ | that's what my friend who went into business did |
| 03:17.40 | Simca_ | was like the only person I know who took chinese and he was like "it's just the smart business move" |
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| 03:24.04 | Neffi | ~framexml |
| 03:24.04 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml . |
| 03:26.13 | Jamash | welp, time to roll back to kitkat |
| 03:27.53 | Jamash | android lollipop is the windows 95 of tablet operating systems |
| 03:28.11 | Neffi | why? |
| 03:28.12 | Simca_ | so it crashes every time you alt-tab |
| 03:28.14 | Simca_ | ? |
| 03:28.14 | Jamash | YES |
| 03:28.27 | Jamash | holy crap it has been absolutely miserable |
| 03:28.36 | Neffi | havent had any troubles phone-wise |
| 03:28.42 | Neffi | it's been excellent |
| 03:28.43 | Jamash | I have a 2012 Nexus 7 |
| 03:29.01 | Jamash | is it a new phone? |
| 03:29.03 | Gnarfoz | even the very first unofficial-experimental-danger-might-explode version of cm12 worked just fine on my phone |
| 03:29.04 | Neffi | is this an official lolli build? |
| 03:29.10 | Jamash | the most official |
| 03:29.10 | Neffi | it's a Moto G 2014 model |
| 03:29.20 | Neffi | well either it's official or it's not |
| 03:29.29 | Neffi | i was gonna say maybe the build is borked somehow |
| 03:29.40 | Jamash | yeah you probably have a faster processor and more ram and so the rampant memory leaks and performance glitches are less noticeable |
| 03:29.57 | Jamash | No, it's the OS, lots of people are having the same problem |
| 03:30.00 | Neffi | it's a Krait 400 iirc and 1 gig of ram |
| 03:30.07 | Neffi | this thing is not a monster |
| 03:30.12 | Jamash | hm, same ram |
| 03:30.13 | Jamash | IDK |
| 03:30.30 | Gnarfoz | he's right though, the stupid new task switcher keeps throwing stuff out that didn't need to be |
| 03:30.35 | Neffi | lots of people with the same device are having issues too? |
| 03:30.38 | Gnarfoz | (most notably for me: Ingress) |
| 03:30.42 | Jamash | Yes. |
| 03:30.44 | Neffi | maybe the kernel or drivers are borked somehow |
| 03:30.47 | Jamash | Yes. |
| 03:31.02 | Jamash | They released 5.0.2 which upgraded it to being the Windows 98 of tablet operating systems |
| 03:31.02 | Gnarfoz | however, opening it via the launcher instead of the task switcher works just fine, so wtf |
| 03:31.38 | Jamash | which means that the OS is in fact at fault |
| 03:32.00 | Gnarfoz | not sure what kind of differentiation you're trying to make |
| 03:32.02 | Jamash | also the UI sucks more |
| 03:32.18 | Jamash | If patching the OS fixes some of the problems, then at least some of the problems are due to the OS |
| 03:32.19 | Neffi | I havent seen the UI on a tablet, but I think it's a huge improvement on the phone |
| 03:32.27 | Gnarfoz | the UI is fine, but I have no tablet |
| 03:32.37 | Neffi | Aside from the launcher and lockscreen being unconfigurable shit, I love the new 5.0 UI |
| 03:32.45 | Jamash | the quick settings sucks, the new notifications suck, the lockscreen sucks |
| 03:32.52 | Neffi | aye, the lockscreen sucks |
| 03:32.57 | Gnarfoz | how so? |
| 03:33.05 | Jamash | you gotta unlock it twice |
| 03:33.07 | Neffi | the new notifications menu and quicksettings, I rather like quite a lot |
| 03:33.12 | Gnarfoz | unlock it twice? wha |
| 03:33.20 | Neffi | it's also excessively easy to accidentally open the camera |
| 03:33.31 | Neffi | and NO WAY to disable the "open camera" link |
| 03:33.35 | Stanzilla | 5.0 has a known memory leak, that's why sometimes apps just close or get kicked out of the recent view |
| 03:33.38 | Jamash | tap once to tell it I want to unlock, tap again to tell it yes I actually meant to unlock, then enter my password |
| 03:33.38 | Gnarfoz | are you using your phone with a closed fist? |
| 03:33.48 | Neffi | things like this should be caught and fixed *early on* in testing |
| 03:33.51 | Gnarfoz | "tell it yes"? |
| 03:33.58 | Gnarfoz | what kind of weird middle step are you talking about |
| 03:34.00 | Jamash | it says "tap again to unlock" |
| 03:34.03 | Jamash | on the screen |
| 03:34.08 | Neffi | hallway test people. give it to your inept father/uncle/whatever. if they mess something up, you have a UI element to fix |
| 03:34.10 | Gnarfoz | clearly doesn't here |
| 03:34.14 | Jamash | settings, maybe |
| 03:34.23 | Gnarfoz | more like: not actually AOSP |
| 03:34.36 | Gnarfoz | are you not swiping up the lock icon to the middle of the screen? |
| 03:34.45 | Jamash | if I touch the lock icon it locks again |
| 03:34.56 | Jamash | or rather, blanks the screen |
| 03:34.57 | Neffi | you have to swipe up on the lock icon |
| 03:35.00 | Jamash | it's atrocious design |
| 03:35.13 | Gnarfoz | (actually, even touching the lock icon behaves as if I swiped it up) |
| 03:35.23 | Jamash | yeah except sometimes when I try to do that I end up touching it instead of swiping |
| 03:35.25 | Neffi | yeah, not on my end |
| 03:35.36 | Jamash | well I'd test it but I'm flashing 4.4.4 right now |
| 03:35.42 | Gnarfoz | (add to that that I have quick unlock, so no need to touch return after the PIN) |
| 03:36.27 | Gnarfoz | I guess I should stop comparing, CM is not really the same :D |
| 03:36.35 | Jamash | oh well no duh |
| 03:36.39 | Neffi | anyway, I hope CM or other ROMs do something nice with the lockscreen, or at least make it much mor econfigurable, for 5.x |
| 03:36.43 | Jamash | I tried CM but found it a bit too buggy |
| 03:36.46 | Gnarfoz | early versions always lack most of the CM features, though |
| 03:36.58 | Jamash | but then I found out that if you use the installer they install the stupid people version of CM that gets updates twice a year |
| 03:37.03 | Gnarfoz | didn't even have said quick unlock for the first two builds! :P |
| 03:37.11 | Jamash | sometime I'll try the one that actually gets updates |
| 03:37.17 | Gnarfoz | how did you end up using the installer |
| 03:37.20 | Gnarfoz | are you a stupid people |
| 03:37.22 | Neffi | Jamash: you mean "stable"? |
| 03:37.27 | Jamash | I kind of assumed using the installer was the way to install. |
| 03:37.30 | Gnarfoz | the installer doesn't even install cm12 |
| 03:37.31 | Jamash | Obviously I was mistaken. |
| 03:37.45 | Gnarfoz | (since that's not remotely stable) |
| 03:39.30 | Gnarfoz | the "smart" quick tiles thing was a bit annoying before it was customizable |
| 03:41.53 | Jamash | I am quite pleased with the Nexus Root Toolkit, makes the whole process pretty straightforward as these things go. |
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| 04:14.38 | fewyn | hooray for google adsense |
| 04:14.46 | fewyn | Automatic payment in progress: Bank account ... for ($111.59) |
| 04:15.01 | fewyn | it's like a random surprise every 6 months |
| 04:17.31 | fewyn | more often last one was in august |
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| 05:30.59 | p3lim | is one of the poles on the cherry mx switches supposed to be bigger than the other? |
| 05:31.15 | p3lim | gah wrong channel |
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| 05:39.50 | pompy1 | :o http://www.wired.com/2015/01/barrett-brown-sentenced-5-years-prison-connection-stratfor-hack/?mbid=social_fb |
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| 05:50.57 | Neffi | reads |
| 05:51.04 | Neffi | what in the |
| 05:51.18 | Neffi | first I'm like "ok he distributed credit card numbers. dick move. good." and then "The charges against Brown caused a stir when they were first revealed, because Brown hadnât stolen the data himself, but had simply copied the hyperlink from one public chatroom and posted it to another." |
| 05:51.36 | Neffi | I mean, that's still sort of a dick move, but 5 years? |
| 05:52.32 | Neffi | oh, those charges were dropped. it's other charges on which he was convicted. my fault for not reading it all |
| 05:58.03 | Dagmar | Remember, it's not illegal to threaten to mock someone mercilessly, but threatening to "destroy" their life and their kids is another matter |
| 05:59.12 | Neffi | Dagmar: I will destroy your life cereal |
| 05:59.18 | Neffi | dat shit b tasty |
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| 07:47.10 | p3lim | I need a nice description for ExtraQuestButton so I can release it, I'm too lazy/unimaginative |
| 07:51.26 | Neffi | "It's an addon which adds a quest-related button." |
| 07:53.37 | Neffi | it's still missing something though... |
| 07:53.47 | Neffi | how about, " ... and Neffi is awesome" |
| 07:57.35 | p3lim | Hmm.. |
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| 08:24.14 | p3lim | Neffi: Sorry to disappoint |
| 08:24.38 | Semlar | what about Does things and stuff |
| 08:26.22 | p3lim | Semlar: Already used that one on my minimap addon |
| 08:26.30 | Neffi | 101 |
| 08:56.58 | Kalroth | woot, my ISP is removing it's fair use limitations next month, now i wont be limited to 2500GB a month anymore |
| 08:59.24 | nevcairiel | how could they limit you like that |
| 08:59.32 | Kalroth | yes it's unfair |
| 09:00.09 | Kalroth | also they're upgrading my 150/15mbit to 300/40mbit without changing the price |
| 09:00.33 | haste | hacks |
| 09:00.48 | Simca | yeah that 2500GB limit is really unreasonable |
| 09:00.55 | Simca | i'm sure you hit it monthly |
| 09:01.08 | tz | sighs at his 4mbit/1mbit line |
| 09:01.14 | Kalroth | somehow, in this little socialistic and communistic country of mine, capitalistic competition is actually working |
| 09:01.46 | Simca | doesn't work in the US, too many laws to protect corps from competition |
| 09:02.00 | p3lim | Bandwidth caps is normal in Denmark? |
| 09:02.23 | Simca | they dig into a state and monopolize telecom enterprises in that state and nobody can uproot them without huge expense |
| 09:02.54 | Simca | state boundaries fuck up a lot of things like that - insurance is another popular one where that happens |
| 09:03.03 | Kalroth | p3lim: yes |
| 09:04.15 | Simca | when it comes to certain business fields, the US might as well be 50 little countries |
| 09:07.40 | Kalroth | and as for the limit, i've broken maybe 1TB a month a few times, but usually i'm much lower |
| 09:09.12 | nevcairiel | yeah 2.5TB isnt a limit any sane person is going to reach |
| 09:09.13 | Simca | comcast lists a 250GB a month limit and threatens 'financial penalties' for exceeding it |
| 09:09.25 | haste | 250G? hah |
| 09:09.28 | Simca | luckily they don't enforce it since I break it most months |
| 09:09.53 | Simca | usually do about 300GB or so |
| 09:10.02 | nevcairiel | we have a ISP with that sort of limit, but i'm not using them, and i dont know if they actually enforce it |
| 09:10.36 | p3lim | I don't think I've had limits since.. ISDN or something |
| 09:10.43 | nevcairiel | last month i used like 500G, this month 244G so far |
| 09:11.02 | haste | ISDN didn't really have limits p3lim |
| 09:11.04 | nevcairiel | curious that this month I uploaded 150G as well, wonder wtf that is from |
| 09:11.08 | haste | it was more.. prepaid :P |
| 09:11.17 | p3lim | I'm too young to remember :] |
| 09:11.40 | haste | telenor had online 150 |
| 09:11.56 | haste | which was 150 hours of online time for some set monthly fee |
| 09:12.01 | nevcairiel | in early isdn/modem days you mostly paid for online time, not traffic |
| 09:12.16 | haste | you could use both lines and get 75 hours as well :P |
| 09:12.51 | p3lim | I think my family had ISDN for like a few months before broadband became popular |
| 09:13.36 | nevcairiel | we never had ISDN at home, always just analog, and modem for a long time |
| 09:13.37 | haste | I still remember the janco multicom ISP, which was bought by UPC, which was bought by Get later on :P |
| 09:13.44 | nevcairiel | but then DSL came! |
| 09:14.03 | haste | didn't get DSL until 2004 I think |
| 09:14.08 | p3lim | I do however remember that my dad had both ISDN and broadband at some point, he kept ISDN for his fancy fax/internet phone |
| 09:14.18 | haste | they didn't have enough outputs to hook us up earlier |
| 09:14.42 | haste | most people had both until cell phones started taking off |
| 09:14.51 | nevcairiel | ISDN isnt really a internet thing, many people use/used it for multiple phone lines and multiple phone numbers |
| 09:15.12 | p3lim | fax + phone combination as an example |
| 09:15.15 | Kalroth | yeah, I remember using ISDN for dual dialups |
| 09:15.28 | nevcairiel | well, these days the phone companies are pushing voip lines to replace both analog and ISDN |
| 09:15.57 | p3lim | People still have regular phones these days? |
| 09:16.00 | haste | I always used dual dialup to download infantry patches |
| 09:16.11 | haste | they were so huge.. like.. 15MB :P |
| 09:16.47 | haste | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infantry_%28video_game%29 first game SOE ruined |
| 09:16.48 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 09:16.52 | Fisker | also hey nevcairiel |
| 09:17.46 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 09:17.55 | Fisker | I heyed you haste |
| 09:17.57 | Fisker | I watch you hey |
| 09:20.28 | Simca | ur a hey |
| 09:20.42 | Fisker | hey Simca |
| 09:27.13 | karl_w_w | i remember my school had dual isdn |
| 09:27.19 | karl_w_w | it was the fastest thing in the world |
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| 09:43.29 | nebula169 | daaaaaaaayum |
| 09:48.59 | NuSuey | haste: soe is nothing.. try EA .. so many ruined games :/ |
| 09:54.01 | haste | at least they didn't get worst company this year :D |
| 09:54.37 | Kalroth | yeah, they couldn't even do that! |
| 09:58.05 | Simca | hahaha |
| 09:58.24 | Simca | i feel better about mmoc's spam problems now: http://us.battle.net/en/forum/15051532/ |
| 10:00.36 | Kalroth | love & merrige!! |
| 10:16.55 | Fisker | boy next door? |
| 10:31.38 | Mr_Rabies | this is all i can say about the new blood elf models: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh5fziONXYU#t=64 |
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| 10:43.52 | Semlar | tries to calm mr_rabies down |
| 10:45.53 | karl_w_w | tries to teach Semlar the ways of tab |
| 10:46.04 | Semlar | plz no |
| 10:52.36 | Mr_Rabies | i can't calm down semlar |
| 10:53.14 | Mr_Rabies | i watched an episode of a tv show where a baby controlled a dream ghost that killed people by dragging them into the dream world and killing them as they slept |
| 10:53.18 | Mr_Rabies | there's no calming down |
| 11:05.31 | Semlar | babies are jerks |
| 11:07.36 | Mr_Rabies | especially this baby |
| 11:10.51 | Mr_Rabies | also the dream ghost he controls looks like this so http://bossdungeon.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/death1-Copy.png |
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| 13:07.34 | foxlit | so this garrison mission reward is 1225 resources, which causes me to go over cap :( |
| 13:07.47 | Fisker | comforts foxlit |
| 13:08.07 | tlund | foxlit: BUY ALL THE STUFF! |
| 13:08.29 | foxlit | but there is no stuff? |
| 13:08.52 | Fisker | Trading post |
| 13:09.32 | foxlit | inn/barn. |
| 13:11.15 | Semlar | more missions! |
| 13:11.32 | karl_w_w | when final fantasy stops including bombs in their mobs the series will improve twofold |
| 13:12.06 | Semlar | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=120360/barrage is this tooltip saying barrage does the same amount of damage regardless of how many enemies it hits |
| 13:12.21 | Semlar | (above 1) |
| 13:12.54 | foxlit | no. |
| 13:13.14 | Semlar | that's not what "an average of x physical damage to each other enemy target in front of you" means? |
| 13:13.22 | foxlit | it isn't. |
| 13:13.46 | Semlar | but the formula is an exact number |
| 13:13.51 | foxlit | "each" |
| 13:14.27 | foxlit | Oprah meme would fit. "You get X damage! You get X damage! You all get X damage! (up to the AoE target cap)" |
| 13:14.48 | Semlar | i don't like it saying average there |
| 13:15.31 | foxlit | that's shorthading for "some of you might slightly more bees than others" |
| 13:15.44 | Semlar | i see |
| 13:16.09 | foxlit | (or "some barrage casts might produce slightly more bees than others") |
| 13:16.53 | Semlar | i would like it if barrage actually shot bees |
| 13:17.12 | Semlar | i want a swarm of bees to come out of my gun |
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| 13:17.21 | foxlit | your pet/tank wouldn't approve. |
| 13:19.08 | Semlar | they already don't approve of barrage |
| 13:19.14 | Semlar | beerrage |
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| 13:26.24 | Semlar | http://www.wowhead.com/pet=130/basilisk i wonder if this pile of meat is tameable |
| 13:27.37 | Semlar | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=44138/jadecrest-basilisk oO |
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| 13:28.46 | Semlar | clearly tameable |
| 13:29.19 | Semlar | these are apparently left behind from a quest in a deepholm for skinning basilisks |
| 13:29.36 | Semlar | pleeease tell me they're really tameable because that would be hilarious |
| 13:33.41 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
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| 13:53.41 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Fabulous Fisker. |
| 13:53.49 | Fisker | \o/ |
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| 14:16.59 | karl_w_w | Semlar, there is a gun in saints row gat out of hell that shoots bees |
| 14:17.35 | Semlar | there you go |
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| 15:31.23 | bluspacecow | @Cairenn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIzAZphrWc0 |
| 15:31.26 | bluspacecow | wat a silly doggy |
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| 15:38.42 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: http://i.imgur.com/aE7sNVr.jpg |
| 15:43.17 | Kalroth | http://img.pr0gramm.com/2015/01/23/707fd6eb1ed121eb.jpg do not want |
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| 16:00.58 | karl_w_w | bluspacecow, have you seen this? http://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/2nem47/can_you_have_a_garden_in_new_zealand/ |
| 16:01.51 | bluspacecow | ha ha |
| 16:01.57 | bluspacecow | either he got trolled and he is a troll |
| 16:02.37 | karl_w_w | the comments are gold |
| 16:03.19 | Thunder_Child | "I googled about it, but got no founds." I am so unhappy. |
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| 16:10.40 | Torhal | Perhaps it was unfounded, Thunder_Child. |
| 16:11.24 | Thunder_Child | You know Torhal, if would have realised you were like this, the last time we met you would have been very unhappy. |
| 16:11.33 | Torhal | :/ |
| 16:11.34 | Fisker | no Torhal |
| 16:11.41 | Torhal | Thunder_Child: We met? |
| 16:11.41 | Thunder_Child | s/if/if I/ |
| 16:11.55 | Fisker | I once met Torhal |
| 16:12.01 | Fisker | Didn't kill a guy |
| 16:12.20 | Thunder_Child | Torhal: No actually, I was thinking of Kaelten for some reason. I think |
| 16:12.25 | Torhal | Heh |
| 16:26.40 | Ressy | :\ |
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| 16:29.58 | Fisker | soup Ressy |
| 16:29.59 | Fisker | soup |
| 16:32.29 | Ressy | hi |
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| 16:40.59 | znf | well, crap, foxlit |
| 16:41.03 | Fisker | hi |
| 16:41.14 | znf | BRF missions now have 7 abilities |
| 16:41.35 | nevcairiel | hm thats unfortunate |
| 16:41.47 | nevcairiel | hope the legendary follower fits onto them |
| 16:42.13 | g0urra | legendary follower? |
| 16:42.22 | nevcairiel | countering 7 with 3 epic followers is possible, but needs perfect matches in abilities and traits |
| 16:42.39 | znf | g0urra, yeah, we're getting a legendary follower in 6.11 |
| 16:42.40 | znf | Garona |
| 16:42.56 | g0urra | cool |
| 16:43.48 | foxlit | who basically counters a free threat. |
| 16:45.49 | nevcairiel | master assassin is full counter, success chance wise? |
| 16:46.19 | foxlit | yes. |
| 16:46.32 | foxlit | (or was, the last time I looked) |
| 16:47.17 | nevcairiel | if the 3 abilities she gets is a good roll as well, and you have decent combinations otherwise, it might still be pretty easy then |
| 16:47.19 | nevcairiel | but you will need her |
| 16:47.48 | znf | maybe we can ding epic followers to legendary |
| 16:47.48 | znf | heh |
| 16:47.57 | nevcairiel | dont think so |
| 16:48.01 | nevcairiel | that would devalue her |
| 16:48.29 | nevcairiel | my only problem is still some decent combinations with group damage |
| 16:48.42 | nevcairiel | i would love group damage with massive strike, but the rng gods arent nice to me |
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| 16:49.45 | bluspacecow | i sleep meows |
| 16:49.46 | foxlit | shouldn't there be like significantly more combinations than just group damage/massive strike that you could use instead? |
| 16:50.11 | nevcairiel | well, its really mostly about the one mission with 2 group damage counters in it |
| 16:50.23 | nevcairiel | http://ptr.wowhead.com/mission=451/black-forge |
| 16:50.25 | nevcairiel | this one |
| 16:50.45 | nevcairiel | group damage with massive strike would play the best into my current lineup |
| 16:51.21 | nevcairiel | but only brewmaster monks can get that combination, and while I have one on 100, she got group damage taunt i think |
| 16:51.33 | znf | follower re-roll certificates! |
| 16:51.46 | nevcairiel | actually worse, she got group damage deadly minions |
| 16:51.49 | nevcairiel | of which I already had one! |
| 16:51.59 | nevcairiel | yeah i might try to reroll her in 6.1 when i can buy those |
| 16:52.51 | nevcairiel | i'll probably buy another group damage at the inn just to get another combination to remain flexible |
| 16:53.17 | nevcairiel | group damage + timed battle might also work |
| 16:54.07 | znf | I don't get why they would make it 7 counters... really :-/ |
| 16:54.22 | znf | they want us to rely more on environment preference and racial? |
| 16:54.23 | nevcairiel | so that its actually challenging and not just boring? :p |
| 16:55.02 | znf | I don't find anything challenging about using retraining certificates until I get the perfect combo |
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| 16:55.45 | nevcairiel | you sound like you just want a loot box in your mail :P |
| 16:57.34 | znf | well, pretty much how it's been so far |
| 16:58.17 | nevcairiel | not necessarily, the majority of people dont have good enough followers, either due to combo or no gear, and they need something to strife for |
| 16:58.30 | nevcairiel | and with garona offering up to 4 full counters, those missions are possible |
| 16:58.54 | nevcairiel | 4 + 3 more traits that can have more things in t hem! |
| 16:59.04 | foxlit | gating mission progression on the legendary quest progression is just slightly annoying. |
| 17:00.56 | foxlit | Maybe adding more Dancer-like things might be interesting, if they let you replace specific traits. |
| 17:01.12 | nevcairiel | yeah picking a trait to replace might make those really valuable |
| 17:02.18 | foxlit | If they dropped respawn timer on failed raid missions, running them with lower-than-100 success chance suddenly becomes reasonable |
| 17:02.39 | Mihau | My paladin. Lucky to have perfect followers with perfect traits, epic mounts, and scavenger. My druid? Fails 50% of her missions due to traits that are horribly mismatched. |
| 17:02.41 | foxlit | "okay, so we wiped this time, pay another 100 GR to try again tomorrow" |
| 17:03.02 | nevcairiel | I suppose that would be acceptable, do a 3-4 day cooldown after fail instead of the full two weeks of nothing |
| 17:03.59 | nevcairiel | although should spawn the same one again imho =p |
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| 17:33.39 | Semlar | gate all the things! |
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| 17:58.38 | pompy1 | http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=122674/s-e-l-f-i-e-camera-mkii ... why blizzard, why... |
| 17:59.58 | Fisker | pop culture references pompy1 |
| 18:00.16 | Fisker | Nothing says good game design better than memes |
| 18:01.01 | Fisker | I feel a selfie in front of orgrimmar during the siege in mop would've been kind of mean |
| 18:01.02 | pompy1 | iknorite |
| 18:01.27 | Fisker | I'm hungry for food |
| 18:08.01 | Thunder_Child | So eat food. |
| 18:12.24 | Lopeppeppy | You should totally have dinner. |
| 18:12.36 | Lopeppeppy | saws Unkle's legs off. |
| 18:12.45 | Torhal | :O |
| 18:12.55 | Torhal | You didn't even give him whiskey! |
| 18:13.05 | Lopeppeppy | He's a tough guy, he can handle it. |
| 18:13.09 | Thunder_Child | That's because he has his own. |
| 18:13.11 | Thunder_Child | And lots of it. |
| 18:13.12 | pompy1 | hey znf : http://9gag.com/gag/aOyw94M?ref=fbp |
| 18:13.29 | Unkle | bleeds quietly from his stumps. |
| 18:14.11 | Fisker | But I like unkle Lopeppeppy :( |
| 18:14.22 | Unkle | I have half a bottle of Jameson and a full bottle of Talisker. |
| 18:14.24 | znf | yeah, so? |
| 18:14.35 | Lopeppeppy | I love him too, Fisker. I trust him to have his own whiskey, because I only have rum. |
| 18:14.41 | znf | also, not standard |
| 18:15.43 | Unkle | I have a bottle of rum too. |
| 18:15.57 | Lopeppeppy | Then I have to get some whiskey to prove my love, don't I? |
| 18:17.00 | Unkle | Yes, yes you do. |
| 18:17.24 | Unkle | But only because you need whiskey for baking and cocktails. |
| 18:17.48 | Thunder_Child | I read that as 'banging and cocktails' |
| 18:18.24 | Lopeppeppy | Cocktails come before banging, TC. Just FYI. |
| 18:18.25 | Unkle | well, we know where *your* mind is. |
| 18:18.55 | Thunder_Child | The same place it always is. |
| 18:19.12 | Unkle | Yeah, the gutter. Blocking my skylight. |
| 18:19.35 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy: What, you don't have an after coitus cocktail? |
| 18:20.05 | Lopeppeppy | Not usually, no. Chocolate. |
| 18:20.34 | Thunder_Child | Unkle: Well, if you cleaned out your gutter, maybe it would not be blocking the skylight. |
| 18:20.57 | Fisker | You could do it during Lopeppeppy |
| 18:21.36 | Lopeppeppy | Drink during? Nooooo.... that requires hands. |
| 18:22.28 | Fisker | well yes |
| 18:22.47 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy: Beer helmet. |
| 18:22.56 | kd3 | bahaha |
| 18:23.47 | Fisker | Thunder_Child is way more experienced than I am in these matters |
| 18:23.51 | Fisker | So what he said |
| 18:26.10 | Lopeppeppy | ... no, just no way in hell. |
| 18:26.54 | Fisker | :( |
| 18:32.01 | Fisker | I did have food though |
| 18:33.04 | Lopeppeppy | Have a cookie! |
| 18:33.25 | Fisker | Are you offering? |
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| 18:38.58 | Lopeppeppy | I have no cookies. Get one and share it? |
| 18:41.08 | Fisker | That would be expensive for cookie sharing purposes |
| 18:41.42 | Lopeppeppy | *tragic sigh and puppy eyes* |
| 18:42.18 | Fisker | aw :( |
| 18:42.32 | Fisker | Tell you what, next Blizzcon I'll bring a cookie |
| 18:42.32 | Fisker | :P |
| 18:47.49 | Lopeppeppy | Yay! |
| 18:48.08 | Fisker | Iriel owes me 5 bucks now |
| 18:53.13 | Lopeppeppy | For cookies |
| 18:53.41 | Fisker | nah |
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| 18:53.52 | Fisker | We were trying to find out how to kidnap you at Blizzcon |
| 18:53.57 | Fisker | I fixed it |
| 18:55.19 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a sucker for cookies in distress |
| 18:55.40 | Fisker | I think you just tell yourself they're in distress! |
| 18:55.45 | Fisker | Do you even speak cookie? |
| 18:57.41 | Torhal | I don't even think she speaks baby, Fisker. |
| 18:58.00 | Lopeppeppy | I totally speak toddler and whale. |
| 18:58.01 | Fisker | What are you saying Torhal? |
| 18:58.08 | Torhal | Words. |
| 18:58.09 | Lopeppeppy | And I understand more French than I can speak back. |
| 18:58.11 | Fisker | What about dolphin? |
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| 18:59.33 | Semlar | eek eek |
| 19:00.57 | Fisker | What does that mean Semlar? |
| 19:01.02 | Thunder_Child | Semlar: I think that's orangutan. |
| 19:01.10 | Semlar | ook ook |
| 19:01.27 | Thunder_Child | At least, that's what diskworld leads me to believe. |
| 19:01.32 | Lopeppeppy | Dolphins don't speak, they spend too much time laughing. |
| 19:01.40 | Thunder_Child | discworld* |
| 19:01.51 | Semlar | i'm not a librarian |
| 19:02.04 | Thunder_Child | We don't know that. |
| 19:02.16 | Semlar | i guess i could be |
| 19:02.21 | Lopeppeppy | I'm proud of what I am? And what is that? I am... a librarian! |
| 19:07.00 | Unkle | http://www.tntdrama.com/shows/the-librarians.html |
| 19:09.10 | Fisker | Hi Unkle |
| 19:09.16 | Fisker | Thanks for the leg |
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| 19:20.01 | fewyn | the librarians was fun |
| 19:20.04 | fewyn | i hope it gets renewed |
| 19:20.12 | fewyn | still need to watch the final 2 episodes tho |
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| 19:21.29 | fewyn | also yay rank 20 in hearthstone |
| 19:21.36 | fewyn | now i don't have to care for another month |
| 19:21.53 | Fisker | But you can't not get rank 20 :( |
| 19:22.03 | fewyn | yeah it's fairly easy |
| 19:22.11 | fewyn | i just run my warlock zoo deck |
| 19:22.15 | fewyn | and plow right through |
| 19:22.23 | fewyn | i might lose /once/ |
| 19:29.25 | kd3 | hm, foxlit, tried to upload some mission data and got the 'oops, something went wrong' screen |
| 19:32.09 | foxlit | that sounds strange |
| 19:32.29 | kd3 | it probably timed out, I'm on dsl, uploading a 5MB file takes 2 minutes or so |
| 19:32.44 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.47 | Sharparam | can i set the OnMouse{Up,Down} scripts on a frame inheriting SecureActionButtonTemplate without messing things up? |
| 19:32.53 | foxlit | kd3: zip it |
| 19:33.10 | Sharparam | it seems to be fine when i do it, but what do i know :P |
| 19:33.45 | foxlit | kd3: (it expects a zip file rather than a lua file) |
| 19:33.48 | kd3 | ah |
| 19:36.10 | VIad | failed 99% mission :/ |
| 19:36.24 | VIad | that's gay |
| 19:37.49 | nevcairiel | 99% has a 1% chance to fail, should use 100% if you never want to fail :p |
| 19:40.32 | Sharparam | neat-o: http://rfl.im/Lj |
| 19:40.44 | Sharparam | oh right mouse cursor is hidden |
| 19:50.25 | VIad | xD |
| 19:50.44 | VIad | nevcairiel: do you know why DBC-Core has a "Your computer does not have enough memory to load settings from the following Addon." ? |
| 19:50.53 | VIad | the DBC config files are empty - purged them myself :P |
| 19:51.07 | nevcairiel | why would i know what dbc even is! |
| 19:52.17 | VIad | it's deadlybossmods |
| 19:52.37 | VIad | it is blamed to not be able to load because of memory but I got plenty available - first time I see this |
| 19:52.40 | VIad | just updated dbm :) |
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| 20:01.50 | Sharparam | now i get the added pleasure of being wary what i do in combat |
| 20:01.57 | Sharparam | 1x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn 'BodyguardHealth' tried to call the protected function 'BodyguardHealthFrame:SetAttribute()'. |
| 20:03.34 | mikma | bad BodyguardHealth, BAD! |
| 20:03.39 | Sharparam | :3 |
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| 20:48.10 | plaw | aww man edgar froese has carked it :( |
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| 21:29.06 | VIad | fyi deleted empty lua wtf file and the out of memory message was gone |
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| 22:33.23 | jleclanche | funny as a french watching americans say charlie hebdo is tasteless trash and then, two minutes later, they're praising south park |
| 22:33.50 | Stanzilla | > americans |
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| 22:38.29 | zenzelezz | jleclanche: but South Park is totally different! It's social commentary, mocking the established norms of the society! |
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| 22:40.28 | jleclanche | poop jokes, dick jokes, social commentary, equal-opportunity mockery with light political connotations |
| 22:40.39 | jleclanche | guess which one I'm talking about. (hint: you can't guess) |
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| 22:42.32 | zenzelezz | I trust I was being obvious enough about my sarcasm |
| 22:42.37 | jleclanche | sure |
| 23:01.01 | Primer | fuck, so on my machine at the office, there are these frames that block the entire left side of the screen |
| 23:01.13 | Primer | but I sync my WTF between home and work |
| 23:01.19 | Primer | and I don't have this problem at home |
| 23:01.28 | Primer | ObjectiveTrackerBlockFrame |
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| 23:03.09 | Neffi | jleclanche: funny as a french sounding fella spouting generalizations and stereotypes about Americans |
| 23:03.27 | jleclanche | Neffi: sorry? |
| 23:03.27 | Neffi | oh, my bad, all Americans are stupid and incapable of higher thought |
| 23:03.29 | Neffi | proceed |
| 23:03.42 | jleclanche | Neffi: where do you see "generalizations" and "stereotypes"? |
| 23:03.53 | jleclanche | the only ones I see are from you |
| 23:06.45 | jleclanche | Neffi: to be clear, what I said is Ive seen *specific* americans contradicting themselves based on *their* assumptions and generalizations, I'm not sure how you can interpret that wrong. it's not like I used the word "all" or something... |
| 23:06.50 | Primer | perhaps it was this: |
| 23:06.50 | Primer | <jleclanche> funny as a french watching americans say charlie hebdo is tasteless trash and then, two minutes later, they're praising south park |
| 23:07.06 | jleclanche | yes |
| 23:07.32 | jleclanche | this was me recounting an event that happened, specifically. how is that a generalization? |
| 23:08.55 | jleclanche | Neffi: mind explaining or...? |
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| 23:09.12 | Neffi | I misread, jleclanche. You have my apologies. |
| 23:09.16 | jleclanche | aight |
| 23:09.27 | Neffi | but just to be clear |
| 23:09.34 | Neffi | South Park is fucking brilliant :) |
| 23:09.38 | jleclanche | i love south park |
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| 23:09.56 | jleclanche | i just thought the contradiction was hilarious |
| 23:10.08 | jleclanche | CH has literally the same humour as SP |
| 23:10.32 | Neffi | I'm not familiar with charlie's work |
| 23:11.11 | jleclanche | social, political and religious commentary disguising itself as dick and butt jokes, mostly |
| 23:11.25 | Neffi | my favorite! |
| 23:14.41 | zenzelezz | I have no quarrel with CH, but I was a bit annoyed at the number of people who lined up to buy the limited number of copies they imported into Norway. I'm sure their â¬20, or however much it was, sure showed those terrorists where it's at |
| 23:15.25 | jleclanche | people want to be part of the moment, I thought it was sweet |
| 23:16.21 | zenzelezz | all in all it's a good thing; I just hate when people do those "fashionable" things |
| 23:16.26 | zenzelezz | I'm weird though |
| 23:18.51 | jleclanche | im not really sure how it's different to people lining up to buy the latest iphone or album du jour or something |
| 23:19.28 | jleclanche | i get rolling your eyes at people doing that but if you hate that they do it i dunno, maybe you're placing too much importance into the harmless actions of others :p |
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| 23:19.50 | znf | Hmmm |
| 23:20.01 | znf | Did they announce new gear for Apexis Crystals? |
| 23:20.03 | znf | or a new upgrade level? |
| 23:20.12 | zenzelezz | "I'm very confused and I think my debugger is lying to me" - best first sentence in an SO post I've seen |
| 23:20.35 | jleclanche | sounds right |
| 23:20.39 | Neffi | jleclanche: I think your sentiment is right. It's when they act all high and mighty about it that it gets bothersome to the point of hate |
| 23:21.48 | jleclanche | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:21.59 | Neffi | haha |
| 23:22.14 | jleclanche | i don't think the world is in short supply of people being *bothersome to the point of hate* |
| 23:22.30 | Dagmar | They're all over FOX. |
| 23:22.30 | jleclanche | that's why i think it's silly to let the little things get to you |
| 23:22.31 | Kalroth | boobies lol |
| 23:22.42 | Neffi | I'd rather spend the really bored parts of my day browsing imgur or something or other. The best parts of the internet end up there. I'd rather avoid all the rest. |
| 23:22.54 | Dagmar | jleclanche: Remember, your life is more important than _theirs_ |
| 23:23.05 | Dagmar | jleclanche: Otherwise they wouldn't be saying dumb crap on Twitter all the time |
| 23:23.12 | Neffi | well that's just silly, Dagmar. he's not American |
| 23:23.13 | Neffi | ;) |
| 23:23.15 | jleclanche | I'm saying dumb shit on IRC |
| 23:23.18 | Kalroth | something awful and 4chan is where it's at |
| 23:23.19 | jleclanche | it just has less visibility |
| 23:23.38 | Neffi | Kalroth: speaking of, I wonder what's going on over there since moot's stepping down |
| 23:23.44 | Neffi | it's probably the damned apocalypse |
| 23:23.53 | Dagmar | This is nothing compared to any five randomly selected Tumblr blogs |
| 23:23.58 | Kalroth | jleclanche: stop taking stupid people serious! |
| 23:24.13 | zenzelezz | I like stupid people; they make me feel superior |
| 23:24.22 | Dagmar | At some point I keep expecting my friend who works for them to realize that his efforts are the reason these people can _have_ blogs, and he'll wake up screaming |
| 23:24.24 | Kalroth | Neffi: i'm guessing he'll just hand it over to a few of the inner circle, not like he's been active much lately anyways |
| 23:24.24 | jleclanche | Kalroth: if I take your advice seriously, that becomes a paradox |
| 23:24.30 | Kalroth | jleclanche :D |
| 23:24.38 | jleclanche | Kalroth: you totally see what i did there :D |
| 23:24.49 | Kalroth | catch-22 from dums!! |
| 23:25.01 | Neffi | Kalroth: oh no, I'm wondering what the reaction from the community is |
| 23:25.07 | Neffi | they have a tendency to go ape shit over stuff |
| 23:25.24 | Kalroth | it's 4chan, they go ape shit over greentext |
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| 23:25.59 | Kalroth | jleclanche: http://img.pr0gramm.com/2015/01/23/501dc533f9f4058d.gif is what happens |
| 23:26.17 | jleclanche | Kalroth: rofl |
| 23:26.24 | Kalroth | us stupids draggin' you down |
| 23:29.41 | jleclanche | I've been watching day9 play the talos principle |
| 23:29.44 | jleclanche | maaaan this is good stuff |
| 23:30.51 | Kalroth | i've been watching some russian playing barbie's ocean discovery |
| 23:30.56 | Kalroth | it's pretty crappy |
| 23:36.48 | Neffi | wait wat? |
| 23:36.50 | Neffi | who said talos? |
| 23:43.31 | jleclanche | it looks like a new wave of 10-year emails are out. if you didnt receive yours last time (esp if you're in eu/aus/asia), check again |
| 23:48.37 | Kesava | .. 10 year email? |
| 23:48.57 | zenzelezz | they've been stuck in a queue somewhere for a decade |
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| 23:58.37 | Maldivia | queue dance time? |
| 23:59.28 | Maldivia | http://www.leagueofpirates.com/sirvival/queuedance.html -- in case you forgot :D |
