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| 00:11.02 | Fisker | Your auth was late Ressy |
| 00:11.07 | Unkle | Station. |
| 00:11.31 | Fisker | Mom's spaghetti? |
| 00:11.56 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Fisker |
| 00:11.56 | purl | shoots Fisker in the head |
| 00:12.16 | Fisker | Why? |
| 00:12.31 | Thunder_Child | Ask purl. That was a bit harsh. |
| 00:13.38 | Fisker | purl was just following orders |
| 00:13.50 | Ressy | Fisker: Its in the script. *shrugs* |
| 00:14.14 | Fisker | Ah probably executing it at the same time then |
| 00:14.26 | Fisker | What client do you use? |
| 00:14.36 | Ressy | mirc |
| 00:15.07 | Fisker | Blargh |
| 00:16.31 | Fisker | https://freenode.net/sasl/sasl-mirc.shtml though if you want to look at it |
| 00:16.45 | Fisker | Then you shouldn't run into the problem again |
| 00:21.40 | fewyn | i switched to adiirc |
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| 00:24.42 | tlund | hmm, got mail from curse saying my addon is marked abandoned: "Project has not been touched for at least 90 days and default file is out of date." <- what does that mean, the default file is out of date? |
| 00:24.56 | foxlit | not flagged for latest patch |
| 00:25.03 | tlund | ## Interface: 60000 |
| 00:25.18 | foxlit | no, metadata attached to the file |
| 00:25.41 | tlund | well, what should I do, just release a new version with the same content? |
| 00:26.22 | foxlit | Edit Project > Development Stage to mark it back as something sane. |
| 00:26.31 | tlund | ah |
| 00:26.57 | foxlit | You can then also edit the last file to tag it for 6.0.3 even without updating its contents |
| 00:27.55 | tlund | "mature" :) |
| 00:28.02 | foxlit | (I sometimes do that to communicate that despite the toc tag, the last release should continue working just fine for the next minor patch) |
| 00:28.14 | tlund | yeah, this is true for this addon |
| 00:28.42 | tlund | thanks |
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| 00:34.48 | Ixnorp | Is doing "/console taintlog 1" persistant over UI reloads and full program reloads? |
| 00:36.26 | Maldivia | yes |
| 00:36.41 | foxlit | the setting should stick; the log is probably going to get overwritten. |
| 00:40.12 | Ixnorp | Thanks. Yeah, I know it will be over written every time an error occurs. Just being annoyed with a particular taint error related to the, uh, UI HUD quest widget thingy and using a quest item that shows up there. Going to see if I can track it down because 15 mins before raid is the perfect time for UI tinkering. |
| 00:40.17 | Ixnorp | breaks everything. Cries. |
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| 00:45.56 | Eol | I'm not sure how or why LuckyCharms2 interferes with using my quest items on the right |
| 00:46.00 | Stanzilla | 1 is pretty useless sadly :< |
| 00:46.13 | Eol | Does stuff get tainted easily? |
| 00:46.16 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 00:47.16 | Eol | Also run into numerous problems with not being able to select a quest reward until I /reloadui; I assume that's another taint issue |
| 00:49.09 | kullervo | I use opie to use quest items |
| 00:49.14 | kullervo | works every time |
| 00:49.17 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel is still debugging the taint issue in WeakAuras with taintlog 11 on the PTR :D |
| 00:49.22 | Stanzilla | nobody knows what's up |
| 00:54.13 | Simca | taintlog 11? |
| 00:54.20 | Simca | I thought it was on a scale of 0-2 |
| 00:54.29 | nevcairiel | it goes to 11 |
| 00:54.36 | nevcairiel | but only on the ptr or beta |
| 00:54.36 | Simca | badumtish |
| 00:54.42 | Simca | weird |
| 00:54.54 | Simca | what do the other 9 settings do |
| 00:54.56 | tz | like all good numeric ranges should |
| 00:55.05 | Ivnedar | lead up to 11 |
| 00:55.18 | tz | at 11 it gets awesome |
| 00:55.33 | nevcairiel | Simca: nothing |
| 00:56.08 | Simca | excellent |
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| 01:27.48 | fewyn | i sometimes wonder why i do garrison missions on all my 100s |
| 01:27.58 | Stanzilla | same |
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| 01:28.38 | fewyn | i have a "few" 100s http://uplol.fewyn.net/2015-01-14_19-28-31.png |
| 01:29.57 | Stanzilla | I only have 6 |
| 01:30.18 | Stanzilla | been too lazy to level the others |
| 01:30.33 | Semlar | i have 1 |
| 01:30.36 | fewyn | i'm really not having fun leveling my mage atm |
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| 01:31.17 | Stanzilla | mage is already done, was only annoying in spires |
| 01:31.31 | fewyn | i'm playing as frost it's just |
| 01:31.33 | fewyn | ugh |
| 01:31.36 | fewyn | i am dying a lot |
| 01:31.40 | Stanzilla | but now I only have characters with shitty gear remaining |
| 01:31.43 | Stanzilla | this will be teh pain |
| 01:31.51 | fewyn | that's probably why i'm sucking |
| 01:32.01 | fewyn | my mage didn't have any gear going into the expansion |
| 01:32.10 | Stanzilla | yeah that really helps |
| 01:32.25 | Stanzilla | my warrior was 588 or so |
| 01:32.30 | Stanzilla | just steamrolled through everything |
| 01:32.31 | fewyn | it's one of my alts i got to 90 and left alone |
| 01:32.41 | fewyn | yeah something like that |
| 01:32.44 | fewyn | those are the only alliance ones i have left |
| 01:36.14 | Stanzilla | but I already got them all into the garrison |
| 01:36.22 | Stanzilla | glad I dont have to go back to fucking pandaria |
| 01:37.14 | fewyn | i've got almost everything through tannan jungle |
| 01:37.15 | fewyn | duck that zone |
| 01:37.21 | fewyn | it's so boring the 20th time through |
| 01:38.06 | Stanzilla | yea |
| 01:38.21 | Stanzilla | I played it like 20 times in beta |
| 01:38.25 | Stanzilla | and now 11 times on live |
| 01:38.32 | fewyn | yeah on both |
| 01:38.37 | fewyn | did it a lot too |
| 01:38.42 | fewyn | i never really want to do it again :/ |
| 01:38.56 | Stanzilla | especially with those cut scenes you cannot skip |
| 01:39.09 | fewyn | OH HEY LET'S INTRODUCE KARGATH |
| 01:39.13 | fewyn | FOR THE FIFTY BILLIONTH TIME |
| 01:39.27 | tz | bring your warchief their heads? |
| 01:43.05 | Jamash | DJANGO UNCHAINED |
| 01:43.29 | bshelden | I think I might just level my mage in lfg. Getting chain hammered by angry birds doesn't sound fun. |
| 01:44.05 | Neffi | The J is silent |
| 01:44.07 | Neffi | wait... |
| 01:44.39 | Neffi | chains Semlar up |
| 01:44.51 | bshelden | O.o |
| 01:45.03 | Stanzilla | DJ Ango |
| 01:45.04 | Semlar | i see where this is going |
| 01:45.21 | Neffi | Semlar: I'm bored and my computer can't run any of the cool new games D: |
| 01:45.24 | tz | the hottest album of 2015, DJ Ango Unchained |
| 01:45.34 | Semlar | play the cool old games |
| 01:45.45 | Neffi | I'm not sure what to play |
| 01:45.47 | Semlar | wait, watch vampire prosecutor |
| 01:45.51 | Neffi | <_< |
| 01:45.55 | Neffi | maybe later |
| 01:46.02 | Semlar | YOU SAID YOU WERE BORED |
| 01:46.30 | Neffi | it's, well-- it's a relative term |
| 01:46.46 | Stanzilla | Neffi: are you still on that super old laptop? |
| 01:47.00 | Neffi | Sandy Bridge era isn't exactly "super old", but yes |
| 01:47.05 | bshelden | What language was it that had a word for bored-don't-want-to-do-anything apart from bored-nothing-to-do? Cause we need that. |
| 01:47.15 | Semlar | french? |
| 01:47.44 | Neffi | Stanzilla: why?, got a recommendation? :) |
| 01:47.54 | Stanzilla | macbook pro |
| 01:47.59 | Neffi | D: |
| 01:48.00 | Stanzilla | or did you mean game |
| 01:48.03 | Neffi | yeah |
| 01:48.14 | Stanzilla | portal 2 |
| 01:48.32 | Neffi | iirc it doesn't run so well |
| 01:48.38 | Neffi | I *think* I tried it |
| 01:48.52 | Stanzilla | if even that runs bad |
| 01:48.55 | Stanzilla | i dont know man |
| 01:48.57 | Stanzilla | settlers 3 |
| 01:49.38 | Neffi | meh. not a huge fan of RTS titles. |
| 01:50.06 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 01:50.28 | Stanzilla | the longest journey |
| 01:50.34 | Neffi | Oh god I've commited blasphemy and I'm about to be chewed out |
| 01:52.11 | Thunder_Child | Yes, yes you have. But I have poker to go to soon, so no chewing. |
| 01:53.27 | Neffi | I love the time we have together, Thunder_Child. |
| 01:54.51 | Stanzilla | the back to the future games from telltale |
| 01:54.54 | Stanzilla | those are great |
| 01:54.57 | Stanzilla | and not that expensive |
| 01:55.11 | bshelden | I should check if I have those... I might have nabbed them at some point and not yet got to them... |
| 01:56.24 | Thunder_Child | Neffi: Short and sweet. Just as it should be. |
| 01:56.40 | Neffi | aww, that hurts, Thunder_Child. I thought we had a special thing. |
| 01:57.00 | Thunder_Child | Neffi: We do. Short and sweet. Turning slightly sour. |
| 02:22.27 | Simca | <Stanzilla> the longest journey |
| 02:22.31 | Simca | bestest best |
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| 02:29.21 | Stanzilla | agree |
| 02:29.24 | Stanzilla | so sad that the new one sucks |
| 02:47.20 | Thunder_Child | I think I can finish all of the wheel of time before gcc is done building. |
| 02:47.50 | Simca | Thunder_Child: if you skip the detailed imagery, probably |
| 02:48.38 | Thunder_Child | Simca: I read quickly, and this is taking forever. |
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| 02:54.55 | kd3 | wtf, was just running the ptr, then I exit to log over to the live client and now the battle.net app wants to download 24 gigs again |
| 02:56.00 | tz | I ended up just copying over the data folder when that happened, dropped it down to like 700mb |
| 02:56.11 | tz | dunno what causes it |
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| 03:03.36 | karl_w_w | blizzardyness causes it |
| 03:52.31 | pompy | http://imgur.com/gallery/cptPiuI |
| 03:59.53 | kullervo | ... we'd all have several hundred unused tickets that will never expire |
| 04:00.09 | Neffi | that's how I imagine rich people live |
| 04:01.36 | kullervo | Neffi: tickets are for poor people |
| 04:03.37 | Neffi | kullervo: are you kidding me? have you seen the price of airline tickets? |
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| 04:04.03 | Neffi | they basically cater to two crowds: upper middle class, and upper class |
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| 04:07.06 | kullervo | Neffi: rich people are so rich they don't need them |
| 04:07.34 | Neffi | I'm not sure how to feel about this |
| 04:08.19 | kullervo | if I were rich I'd ride one of those aluminium air whales everywhere |
| 04:09.27 | Neffi | " aluminium air whales " <- excellent |
| 04:10.02 | kullervo | well, since it's not appropriate to call them blimps and they're not zeppelins either.. |
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| 04:12.36 | Neffi | " it's not appropriate to call them blimps" <- since when? |
| 04:13.01 | kullervo | since the company making them said so |
| 04:13.22 | Neffi | well to hell with them |
| 04:13.31 | kullervo | and they are somewhat whale shaped |
| 04:14.37 | kullervo | I mean the new thing |
| 04:16.04 | Neffi | 0.o |
| 04:16.12 | kullervo | trying to find the link |
| 04:16.43 | kullervo | Hagara finally dropped her shield so I had to push buttons |
| 04:17.47 | kullervo | http://gizmodo.com/the-aluminum-airship-of-the-future-has-finally-flown-1301320903 |
| 04:20.40 | Neffi | this reminds me of that episode of Archer |
| 04:27.43 | karl_w_w | if you refresh a web page does the cache get overwritten immediately? |
| 04:28.06 | kullervo | depends on the content |
| 04:28.22 | kullervo | and browser I guess. But forced refresh always overwrites. |
| 04:47.39 | Kesava | so what're the good addons for raid frames these days |
| 04:47.48 | Kesava | because the click boxes ont the default ones just keep fucking up |
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| 05:06.43 | karl_w_w | probably z-perl, if it's ready |
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| 05:11.55 | kullervo | Kesava: Grid and Healbot are popular, also some third but I forgot the name |
| 05:12.05 | kullervo | personally I use Grid since it's spartan enough |
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| 05:15.45 | Kesava | I forgot about healbot |
| 05:16.09 | Kesava | there also really needs to be a way to fill up with fake raid members or something. |
| 05:17.21 | kullervo | some addons have test modes |
| 05:17.28 | tz | vuhdo was the other? |
| 05:17.31 | tz | I dunno, I use grid2 |
| 05:17.32 | kullervo | yes |
| 05:17.44 | kullervo | but regular grid gets updated too |
| 05:17.54 | Kesava | well that's confusing |
| 05:18.20 | kullervo | I was told in TBC not to install grid2 because it was a poor hack |
| 05:18.40 | tz | works fine for my purposes |
| 05:19.10 | tz | pretty much all the stuff I use it for is integrated out of the box, instead of needing 12 different other GridStatusXXXX addons |
| 05:20.39 | Kesava | vuhdo's config interface certainly looks flamboyant |
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| 05:27.47 | tz | man why didn't I do this sooner |
| 05:28.25 | tz | was annoyed at bigwigs bars being too much of a graphical block, stopping me from seeing thru to the game world |
| 05:28.39 | tz | made a statusbar texture which was only 1/8 height and transparent for the rest |
| 05:28.44 | tz | so much nicer |
| 05:29.42 | tz | e.g. http://i.imgur.com/sSmf2NS.png |
| 05:29.55 | tz | now I can seeeeee |
| 05:30.32 | kullervo | That's... Actually neat |
| 05:31.22 | tz | I'd originally moved them further away from my toon because the bars hampered visibility |
| 05:31.29 | tz | not such a problem any more |
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| 05:33.30 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/WoWScrnShot_010415_203209.jpg |
| 05:33.50 | tz | lolwut |
| 05:33.52 | kullervo | I should do something about Omen but whenever I remember the situation doesn't really allow me to do anything |
| 05:33.56 | tz | inside a cage? |
| 05:34.01 | kullervo | yeah |
| 05:34.03 | kullervo | I'm cool like that |
| 05:34.10 | tz | lol |
| 05:34.20 | tz | I should install omen at some point if I have to OT |
| 05:34.29 | kullervo | "OT" |
| 05:34.42 | tz | well I'm tank #3 |
| 05:34.44 | tz | so |
| 05:34.46 | kullervo | there's one place where there's use for "OT" and that's Mythic Imperator if you're a brewmaster |
| 05:34.54 | tz | yeah exactly |
| 05:35.01 | tz | gotta get there first >_< |
| 05:36.38 | kullervo | btw, brewmasters can survive jumping in those cages when the cats are still there |
| 05:36.59 | tz | yeah I know, I've rolled out in the past |
| 05:37.02 | kullervo | not for very long, of course, but long enough to get out |
| 05:37.10 | kullervo | you can't roll out the walls are vertical :| |
| 05:37.16 | tz | the front one |
| 05:37.46 | tz | lemme see if I still have the video |
| 05:37.49 | kullervo | I wouldn't have stayed down there if it was possible to get out :| |
| 05:38.17 | tz | hmmmm |
| 05:38.20 | kullervo | btw you won't need Omen for anything if you actually OT Imperator |
| 05:38.33 | tz | tbh I'll be surprised if we get there |
| 05:38.36 | kullervo | better have name plates that have aggro colors |
| 05:38.57 | kullervo | so that red = more dizzying haze, more more more |
| 05:44.03 | tz | had that since TBC :D |
| 05:52.11 | tz | hmmm, time to go do BT and not get an OH warglaive again |
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| 06:46.41 | pompy | http://www.dailydot.com/technology/google-translate-real-time-update/ |
| 06:48.13 | Simca | okay that's pretty damn awesome |
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| 08:02.41 | karl_w_w | ps2 emulation is so good |
| 08:03.01 | karl_w_w | some games just come out looking amazing |
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| 08:05.04 | tz | linky? |
| 08:05.42 | Kalroth | I'm guessing PSCSX2 |
| 08:06.28 | karl_w_w | yeah, http://pcsx2.net/ |
| 08:09.38 | Jamash | I just realized that Kairozdormu duped the universe's largest diamond |
| 08:09.47 | Jamash | that must have been his plan all along |
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| 08:22.04 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/oO5Y4oI.png you wouldn't guess it's a PS2 game |
| 08:22.11 | karl_w_w | unless you knew the game of course |
| 08:30.12 | stuf | glorious emotion engine |
| 08:30.34 | Kalroth | my feels |
| 08:31.09 | karl_w_w | BibleThump |
| 09:04.59 | Mr_Rabies | i would say dreamcast if you asked, other than i don' think there were and DraQue games for dreamcast, karl_w_w |
| 09:05.06 | Mr_Rabies | since the ps2 has such a blurry video output |
| 09:06.02 | Mr_Rabies | don't, any* |
| 09:29.57 | karl_w_w | well this game is very much in japanese |
| 09:31.19 | karl_w_w | ah, only on the loading screen |
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| 09:45.57 | karl_w_w | VIad where are you |
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| 14:46.43 | Fisker | hey Ressy |
| 14:54.57 | Ressy | hi |
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| 15:24.38 | VIad | I am at work karl_w_w - just saw your message. |
| 15:25.02 | karl_w_w | work |
| 15:25.03 | karl_w_w | ew |
| 15:25.18 | VIad | I know. |
| 15:25.30 | Fisker | We can trade if you want |
| 15:33.55 | VIad | does your job pay good? |
| 15:34.18 | Fisker | sure |
| 15:34.32 | Fisker | But obviously you were ew'ing at work which means I'm trading with no work |
| 15:34.34 | Fisker | Otherwise don't ew it |
| 15:38.12 | VIad | going now - going to my other job - see you in some hours |
| 15:45.01 | fewyn | woop second boe 665 epic from salvage yard this week http://www.wowhead.com/item=118886/waistgirdle-of-the-mountain |
| 15:46.53 | Stanzilla | I'm at 0 total |
| 15:47.00 | Stanzilla | not a single one, on any toon |
| 15:47.02 | fewyn | my total is 2 |
| 15:47.18 | fewyn | i have 9 level 3 salvage yards |
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| 15:49.17 | nevcairiel | i had one on my main, like in the second week, sold it for a pretty penny |
| 16:00.32 | nevcairiel | foxlit: when a follower is set to ignored, masterplan ignores him for MoI .. when I alt-click on it, does it still ignore him? If yes, could it maybe not ignore him on ALT, but only use him if required? I want to test which followers I can safely retire :d |
| 16:01.48 | nevcairiel | or otherwise, can it maximize for unused followers, somehow? to determine the minimal set of followers needed? |
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| 16:02.00 | nevcairiel | i know for a fact that I can disable this one guy and it'll just use others to get 100% |
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| 16:31.54 | Stanzilla | yeah it should really consider deactivated followers |
| 16:32.07 | nevcairiel | it does that |
| 16:32.15 | Stanzilla | because I might see myself panic level a new one even if I have a deactivated one that is fine |
| 16:32.15 | nevcairiel | if you hold ALT while opening the MoI tab |
| 16:32.16 | Stanzilla | it does? |
| 16:32.18 | Stanzilla | meh |
| 16:33.33 | nevcairiel | imho it should probably consider them all at all times, but only ever use inactives, ignored or working followers if no other combination is equally good or better |
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| 16:34.56 | nevcairiel | but i can see how some other people may not like that |
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| 16:49.35 | fewyn | hahahaha |
| 16:49.36 | fewyn | http://imgur.com/a/sb7j3#xKdCKsS |
| 17:05.03 | Stanzilla | yeah nevcairiel |
| 17:23.50 | Fisker | n |
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| 17:46.52 | pompy | Cairenn, Ressy: http://cbc.sh/QuJKd5O if you shop here. |
| 17:50.56 | Fisker | Ouch |
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| 17:59.42 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: I absolutely love the new mythbusters format |
| 17:59.43 | fewyn | Tenth Anniversary Physical Gift |
| 17:59.43 | fewyn | As a way of thanking our loyal World of Warcraft players, we will send a physical gift to players who have been playing with us since the beginning. Players who are eligible have received an email at the address listed on their Battle.net accounts. If you did not receive that email, your account is not eligible for this gift. |
| 17:59.43 | fewyn | These gifts were sent to physical addresses of eligible registered Battle.net accounts. To be eligible for this gift, a player must have created a World of Warcraft account within 60 days of the game's release in America or Europe. |
| 17:59.43 | fewyn | Eligible players in America have received tracking information for the shipment of the gift. Eligible players in Europe will receive tracking information when your gifts are sent throughout the month. If the shipping address in the email is incorrect, you will need to contact us with the updated address. |
| 17:59.44 | fewyn | whoa |
| 17:59.55 | jleclanche | fuck the haters holy shit what fewyn |
| 18:00.07 | fewyn | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/4652-Blizzard-Sending-Gift-to-Veteran-Players-Blizzard-Sending-Gift-to-Veteran-Players |
| 18:00.17 | Fisker | Hax |
| 18:01.15 | Arrowmaster | jleclanche: i dont watch it |
| 18:01.20 | Fisker | Oh throughout the month |
| 18:01.23 | jleclanche | i knew it, i fucking knew the three thousand something USD I spent on wow would amount to something one day. |
| 18:01.45 | Fisker | It's 2 of those trial CD keys |
| 18:01.51 | Fisker | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 18:03.26 | pompy | a wow mousepad! |
| 18:03.34 | fewyn | i wonder what it is |
| 18:06.03 | fewyn | if the article is right i should be getting one? don't see a tracking # yet |
| 18:06.25 | Fisker | Are you EU? |
| 18:06.29 | fewyn | no |
| 18:06.32 | jleclanche | fewyn is us |
| 18:06.35 | fewyn | ~america~ |
| 18:06.42 | Fisker | Guess you were wrong then |
| 18:06.46 | Fisker | But I wonder |
| 18:06.48 | pompy | oh cool, i got into the Evolve beta. |
| 18:07.04 | Fisker | I didn't get the free wow a few years back |
| 18:07.18 | fewyn | i've had my account since december 2014 |
| 18:07.29 | fewyn | maybe you needed to be active the entire time |
| 18:08.29 | Fisker | If that's the case >_> |
| 18:08.52 | Fisker | I've lapsed like a few months between mop and wod |
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| 18:09.27 | fewyn | yeah same |
| 18:09.33 | fewyn | well |
| 18:09.42 | fewyn | i quit for swtor (bad decision was bad) |
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| 18:18.04 | SinusPi | If WoWhead shows a spell flagged with "Aura is hidden", is it in ANY way possible to detect if this spell is affecting my character? |
| 18:20.15 | Semlar | depends on the spell |
| 18:20.44 | SinusPi | Let's say this one http://www.wowhead.com/spell=174368/moth-kill-credit |
| 18:21.28 | Semlar | sometimes they'll trigger a UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED event if it causes your character to cast it on themselves |
| 18:21.52 | Semlar | even if it doesn't show up in the combat log |
| 18:22.25 | SinusPi | Ah, I need to check if this affects my toon even if cast some time ago. I figured these "hidden auras" would still return true, as they'd still be flagging me... if only some GetSpellSomething returned true for them. |
| 18:22.45 | SinusPi | And it's not a regular spell, it's an internal flag-setter. |
| 18:22.56 | Semlar | it sounds like you just want to check how many you have for the achievement |
| 18:24.05 | SinusPi | Not how many. WHICH. |
| 18:24.25 | SinusPi | How many is simple; GetAchievementCriteriaInfo(9540,1) returns that as 3rd return. |
| 18:26.38 | Semlar | i don't understand what you're trying to do |
| 18:27.57 | SinusPi | The 6 "___ kill credit" seem to me like internal flags, getting set upon each specific kill. |
| 18:28.11 | SinusPi | The achievement is split among 6 mobs, each getting killed in 6 ways. |
| 18:28.49 | SinusPi | Each individual kill seems to be defined as a spell affecting my toon, internally. The achievement seems to sum those up for each criteria's x/6 progress. |
| 18:29.11 | SinusPi | So, I'm trying to check if the spell 174368 is currently affecting my toon. |
| 18:29.24 | Semlar | yes, i know you're trying to see if the aura is affecting you, but i don't know why |
| 18:30.03 | SinusPi | To be able to discern the individual ways to kill each mob I'm still missing. |
| 18:30.15 | Semlar | right, so why aren't you using the achievement |
| 18:30.20 | SinusPi | Otherwise, the game only shows "2/6". |
| 18:30.49 | SinusPi | It may be confusing as the achievement has 6 criteria, EACH with 6 hidden sub-criteria. |
| 18:30.59 | SinusPi | So the 6's might easily be confused. |
| 18:31.02 | Semlar | the criteria is just to kill the same mob 6 times |
| 18:31.05 | SinusPi | No. |
| 18:31.16 | SinusPi | The achievement is to kill 6 mobs, in 6 ways each. |
| 18:31.41 | SinusPi | It has 6 criteria, tracked as "0/6 moth kills" "0/6 something kills" etc. |
| 18:31.58 | SinusPi | So in all, the achievement tracks 36 flags. |
| 18:32.21 | SinusPi | It's shown on wowhead as 36 spells, each being a "hidden aura". |
| 18:33.02 | SinusPi | Each way of killing each mob is different and tracked individually; they're not just a counter. |
| 18:33.18 | SinusPi | 6 mobs killed on 6 mounts, that's 36 individual flags I need to check. |
| 18:33.20 | Semlar | this isn't something you can track after the fact, so you're going to have to find a different method |
| 18:33.48 | SinusPi | If I could check the presence of those spell-flag-aura-things, it'd probably do it... if. |
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| 18:50.54 | foxlit | nevcairiel: foxlit: when a follower is set to ignored, masterplan ignores him for MoI .. when I alt-click on it, does it still ignore him? If yes, could it maybe not ignore him on ALT, but only use him if required? << Yes; no, because that loses curent behaviour of alt. We can talk about it once you don't have to push alt to scan inactives. |
| 18:51.40 | foxlit | nevcairiel: or otherwise, can it maximize for unused followers, somehow? to determine the minimal set of followers needed? << http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/master-plan/tickets/236 , but I'm wrong, it's not even vertex cover. |
| 18:52.20 | nevcairiel | sounds like an interesting project |
| 19:02.42 | Neffi | http://techreport.com/news/27677/new-intel-igp-drivers-add-h-265-vp9-hardware-decode-support |
| 19:02.55 | Neffi | 10-bit hardware decode of HEVC in Haswell/Broadwell IGP |
| 19:03.59 | Fisker | time to get a new nuc |
| 19:04.49 | Neffi | is anyone actually using HEVC yet? |
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| 19:07.52 | nevcairiel | there isnt actually a hardware decoder in those CPUs |
| 19:08.00 | nevcairiel | they use the GPU to do partial acceleration |
| 19:08.06 | nevcairiel | but not full acceleration |
| 19:08.38 | nevcairiel | presumably the new nvidia GPU (960) may have full hardware 10-bit decode |
| 19:09.09 | Fisker | can you fit it in a NUC nevcairiel? |
| 19:09.52 | Neffi | crams Fisker into an NUC case. |
| 19:10.08 | Fisker | why are you mean Neffi? |
| 19:10.23 | Neffi | because I still don't know what it means to be Neffi |
| 19:15.05 | SinusPi | Do you guys know of an addon that would get rid of the pointless spells for followers, and just say which one can counter which threat? Or perhaps there's an option like that in MasterPlan that I haven't found yet? |
| 19:15.43 | SinusPi | (I mean... why the hell are we even shown the various types of spells, if it ONLY matters which threat they counter...) |
| 19:20.13 | jleclanche | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-IdUI0qs7w |
| 19:20.49 | jleclanche | watching oculus prototype presentations is probably as close as I can get to the feeling of time traveling |
| 19:21.14 | jleclanche | it's that rush feeling of "holy shit this is a thing" |
| 19:21.23 | jleclanche | MAN does crescent bay look good |
| 19:21.47 | Neffi | yeah but where's my fucking hoverboard? |
| 19:21.58 | Thunder_Child | The Gear isn't too bad concidering what it is running off of. |
| 19:22.03 | jleclanche | this blows hoverboards out of the water |
| 19:22.18 | Thunder_Child | considering* |
| 19:22.27 | Neffi | but you can't use the hoverboard on water, jleclanche |
| 19:22.29 | jleclanche | Thunder_Child: i think a lot of people are underestimating how powerful mobile phones are |
| 19:23.10 | Thunder_Child | jleclanche: I have been working on them for the last few weeks for sundance and they look ~the same as the DK2. |
| 19:23.46 | jleclanche | Thunder_Child: smartphones are literally the pinnacle of computing, but we see them are shitty, leaky batterybricks because of how bad the OS and apps are |
| 19:24.18 | Unkle | Hoverboards/jetpacks/etc. The future is always the thing you never expected. Smart phones, wireless internet access, hybrid cars. |
| 19:24.27 | jleclanche | it gets very apparent when you look at actual low-quality phones and systems (HELLO Mozilla Flame) |
| 19:24.58 | jleclanche | Unkle: fuck hybrid cars, teslas are right out of 1950s comic books |
| 19:25.01 | Unkle | And I need to decide if I'm getting a new smart phone soon. |
| 19:25.28 | Unkle | jleclanche: And they weren't a stretch, because electric cars were around back in the day. |
| 19:26.03 | Thunder_Child | jleclanche: Wouldn't implanted wetware be the pinnacle? |
| 19:26.08 | Mr_Rabies | what's the windows-based hard drive test that people use nowadays? |
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| 19:27.48 | jleclanche | Thunder_Child: no |
| 19:28.07 | jleclanche | Thunder_Child: it doesn't even compare to how advanced smartphones are |
| 19:28.25 | zenzelezz | I remember fifteen years ago, when Sisoft Sandra and 3DMark was all the benchmarking rage |
| 19:28.31 | Thunder_Child | Not current, I mean in total. |
| 19:28.46 | jleclanche | Thunder_Child: *current* pinnacle I meant |
| 19:29.39 | Mr_Rabies | i think i've got a drive going out on me |
| 19:29.40 | Thunder_Child | Why is that the pinnacle as compared to a superconputer? |
| 19:29.43 | Mr_Rabies | last minute backup hooooooo |
| 19:29.49 | Thunder_Child | supercomputer* |
| 19:31.54 | jleclanche | Thunder_Child: 1) most supercomputers don't have very advanced hardware, just good software and lots of decent hardware. 2) when talking about tech as a whole, your computer does have access to the power of supercomputers through cloud services and 3) we're not talking about tech as a whole anyway, we are talking about personal computing |
| 19:32.15 | Neffi | jleclanche: this is a great video |
| 19:32.21 | Neffi | this man knows how to speak effectively |
| 19:32.27 | Neffi | no shitty marketing speak. straightforward. |
| 19:32.28 | jleclanche | yessss |
| 19:32.59 | Neffi | "it's not there yet". I'm so happy somebody has the balls to say this as a representative of a company. Lately it seems like everyone's lost their fucking spines |
| 19:33.56 | jleclanche | Neffi: just look at all the passion in him speaking |
| 19:34.07 | jleclanche | he wants to keep going and the interviewer has to stop him |
| 19:34.13 | jleclanche | god i love these guys |
| 19:34.34 | Neffi | yeah, this guy really cares (and knows) about his product |
| 19:34.38 | Neffi | he's not a trained representative |
| 19:34.39 | Thunder_Child | jleclanche: I'm still trying to get your criteria down. Why is it more advanced than my comptuer at home? The only tyhing I can think of is because the engineering needs to be on a slightly higher level. |
| 19:34.42 | Neffi | that makes me happy |
| 19:34.46 | Thunder_Child | thing* |
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| 19:38.26 | jleclanche | Thunder_Child: i was writing why smartphones are so amazing but i hit the character cap on irc, that's nasty. im gonna stop trying now |
| 19:38.51 | Thunder_Child | jleclanche: Fair enough. |
| 19:38.58 | Neffi | It's simple, really |
| 19:42.09 | Mr_Rabies | i can't wait until some kind of wearable replaces the display, though |
| 19:42.15 | Mr_Rabies | for smart phones |
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| 19:42.21 | Thunder_Child | Like google glass? |
| 19:42.51 | Mr_Rabies | i need a phone with as much screen real estate as a desktop pc but portable enough to take everywhere |
| 19:42.56 | Mr_Rabies | sorta, but better, Thunder_Child |
| 19:42.58 | Neffi | Mr_Rabies: I was thinking about that recently. I don't think it's necessary at all. |
| 19:43.21 | Neffi | I don't see a wearable doing the job that a decent ~5" screen does |
| 19:43.39 | Mr_Rabies | what about the job that a 24" screen does? |
| 19:43.52 | Mr_Rabies | because that's not gonna fit in your pocket |
| 19:43.54 | Neffi | I think we've settled on a wonderful form factor for what it is. Pushing smaller/wearable is just limiting. |
| 19:44.34 | Neffi | My cousin has a smart watch, and for the life of me I can't see the point, as much as he's trying to sell me on it |
| 19:45.01 | Neffi | He loves it, but all I see there is his enthusiasm for technology. He uses it because it's cool. |
| 19:45.09 | Mr_Rabies | i mean a wearable that essentially makes the display LARGER |
| 19:45.20 | Mr_Rabies | not literally, but because eyes are made of lenses and shit |
| 19:45.23 | Mr_Rabies | effectively does so |
| 19:45.35 | Neffi | You mean a glass-like solution or something? |
| 19:45.37 | Neffi | Too invasive |
| 19:45.49 | Neffi | A smartphone can be casually carried and used. It fits in a pocket. It's simple. |
| 19:45.59 | Mr_Rabies | but it's so limiting in terms of size |
| 19:46.06 | Mr_Rabies | there's only so much you can do on such a tiny screen |
| 19:46.10 | Neffi | I don't find a large-ish smartphone very limiting |
| 19:46.29 | Neffi | 5" and above screens feel quite comfortable for general web browsing, toying around, and doing what you do on smartphones |
| 19:46.56 | Mr_Rabies | but they're still stunted and weird compared to a desktop |
| 19:47.02 | Neffi | And that's coming from somebody with terrible eyes who doesn't bother to wear glasses |
| 19:47.14 | Mr_Rabies | i can't tell you how many times i've been on the couch trying to find something and just sighed and went to my deskto |
| 19:47.14 | Mr_Rabies | p |
| 19:47.31 | Neffi | <Mr_Rabies> but they're still stunted and weird compared to a desktop <- I agree somewhat. But that's not a limitation of the form factor. It's a limitation of the UX. |
| 19:47.43 | Neffi | Not everyone has nailed down how to do a good, small finger-driven UI |
| 19:48.02 | Neffi | For the ones who have, their apps feel exceptionally comfortable |
| 19:48.09 | Neffi | (I can't think of a specific example though) |
| 19:48.40 | Mr_Rabies | apps in their own little ecosystem might, but the web is just too vast to be constrained to a 5" display |
| 19:49.19 | Neffi | There's still a designer for every part of the web responsible for delivering a good UX |
| 19:49.29 | Neffi | Don't blame the form factor because not all web sites have caught up |
| 19:49.43 | Neffi | The ones who have are comfortable. AnandTech works well on a phone, for instance. |
| 19:50.25 | Neffi | This is a problem that will progressively vanish as more people catch up, figure out new ways to make their UX comfortable, iterate on their ideas, etc |
| 19:50.53 | Neffi | I don't see how a wearable would solve this at all |
| 19:51.10 | Neffi | Short of an eye implant that could project the equivalent of a massive, ultra-high-resolution display in your vision |
| 19:51.18 | Neffi | Personally, I'd rather have a small, handheld device |
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| 19:57.56 | Semlar | that vibrates |
| 19:59.12 | Neffi | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) oh Semlar, you know me too well |
| 20:00.08 | Fisker | lewd |
| 20:00.56 | Neffi | straps a giant vibrating mechanism to Fisker |
| 20:01.00 | Fisker | no |
| 20:01.03 | Neffi | too late |
| 20:02.42 | Constie | Not again! |
| 20:03.28 | Eriner | Anyone know of a good xml editor with visualization for linux? Been using vim, but it would be nice to not just guess-and-check /reload |
| 20:04.28 | Neffi | who do you mean by visualization? |
| 20:05.01 | Eriner | http://s.cdn.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw1065.jpg |
| 20:05.21 | Eriner | or is that functionality specifically integrated to that WoW xml guite? |
| 20:05.25 | Eriner | suite* |
| 20:05.33 | Eriner | not big into xml, so I have no idea. |
| 20:06.20 | relaxok | Eriner: that looks awesome |
| 20:06.36 | Eriner | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4222-WoWUIDesigner.html |
| 20:06.49 | Eriner | not updated since '10, but yeah |
| 20:07.03 | Neffi | This is the only tool I've ever seen that does XML visualization for WoW. Most of us don't use it. |
| 20:07.07 | relaxok | o |
| 20:07.20 | Neffi | I toyed with it WAY back when, and then never touched it again |
| 20:07.24 | Eriner | okay, I was just curious. No problem, I'll stick to vim then. |
| 20:08.01 | Neffi | Generally when I want to nail things down visually, I open up like Devpad or an equivalent addon and start toying with the frame's properties in-game |
| 20:08.17 | Neffi | when I decide upon things like dimensions, and color, I go back and edit the files to make it permanent |
| 20:08.50 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 20:09.14 | Neffi | hello Mr. Zilla |
| 20:09.51 | Eriner | ah. I'll look into that then. I took over maintenance of an addon (kind of) and the layout/strings were all hardcoded into the xml, making changes to the strings difficuly/requiring globals. Is there a better way to do this? |
| 20:10.06 | Eriner | I'm making my own addon from scratch, and I want to learn to do it right the first time. |
| 20:12.53 | Neffi | Having the layout hardcoded into the XML is pretty common |
| 20:13.18 | Neffi | If you wanted to generalize it to emit multiple objects based on some core properties, you could use a template |
| 20:13.26 | Neffi | or go Lua-side and make a factory |
| 20:13.58 | Neffi | Strings, however, should probably be stored in a locale table. Unless you want to be lazy (like me) and just hardcode them and not worry about localization. |
| 20:14.16 | Eriner | yeah, 'hardcoded' strings was my main concern, because you CAN change them, but I'm not sure how to do it in lua, that way they can be changed without globals |
| 20:15.03 | Eriner | Alright, I guess I'll just look at the way popular/large addons do it, and monkey-see monkey-do. |
| 20:15.08 | Neffi | I dunno if XML strings can refer to, like, myAddon.L.SOMEKEY |
| 20:15.30 | Neffi | because ideally all localization strings should be in their own namespace underneath the addon namespace, not occupying globals |
| 20:15.35 | Eriner | Neffi: yeah, that's what I was thinking. If the xml could read vars from the lua, that would be optimal |
| 20:16.23 | Neffi | I don't know if it can by default. You could try. Elsewise you could not set the strings in the XML hierarchy itself, and instead set them with :SetText() (you could even do this in the XML file via <OnLoad> tags) |
| 20:16.49 | Neffi | I build all my frames from Lua, not XML, so I don't know much of the XML stuff off the top of my head |
| 20:17.11 | Torhal | Shun the XLM. Shuuuuun. |
| 20:17.12 | Eriner | right, that was my original thought. <OnLoad> that sets strings based on scripts. |
| 20:17.15 | Torhal | XLM, too! |
| 20:17.19 | Torhal | XLM! |
| 20:17.23 | Neffi | Torhal: one more try? |
| 20:17.29 | Torhal | XML FFS |
| 20:17.36 | Torhal | My muscle-memory is outpacing itself! |
| 20:17.47 | Eriner | yeah, I need to learn how to do it all in lua, as that's how I see big addons do it, I'm just a poor pleb |
| 20:18.24 | Neffi | I mean, doing it in XML is kind of more organized, unless you're really nice about how you format your code |
| 20:18.34 | Neffi | I just hate XML, and I suspect many others do too |
| 20:18.44 | pompy | ~lart Torhal |
| 20:18.44 | purl | blasts Torhal with a huge firehose then strangles Torhal with it |
| 20:18.52 | Neffi | o.o |
| 20:18.53 | pompy | heh |
| 20:18.58 | Torhal | stabs pompy with a wheelbarrow. |
| 20:18.58 | Eriner | Well, I use vim, and I code mainly in C, so organization isn't my problem ;) |
| 20:18.58 | Neffi | purl has been getting really violent lately |
| 20:20.41 | Eriner | one last quetion |
| 20:20.49 | Eriner | actually, nevermind. |
| 20:20.56 | Torhal | Damn it |
| 20:20.58 | Neffi | was it "where did my `s` go?" |
| 20:21.00 | Torhal | I was going to say "42" |
| 20:21.15 | Neffi | ~lart Torhal |
| 20:21.15 | purl | executes killall -TERM Torhal |
| 20:21.23 | Neffi | ~botsnack |
| 20:21.23 | purl | :), Neffi |
| 20:21.24 | Torhal | Fuck, purl. |
| 20:21.29 | Torhal | ~lart Neffi |
| 20:21.29 | purl | readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at Neffi |
| 20:21.49 | pompy | ~pat Torhal |
| 20:21.50 | purl | ACTION pats Torhal and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 20:21.50 | Neffi | so much collateral damage, Torhal |
| 20:21.52 | Neffi | you're a monster |
| 20:22.03 | Torhal | I had to be sure, Neffi. |
| 20:22.18 | Neffi | well I'm still here, but nice try |
| 20:22.55 | Neffi | hey can somebody who is smarter than me point me to a function for darkening arbitrary r,g,b colors? |
| 20:23.13 | Neffi | my current naive method is just to multiply each by the dimming factor, and I know that's now right, but I don't know why |
| 20:23.44 | Neffi | something tells me it's supposed to take gamma or something into consideration |
| 20:23.57 | Torhal | infuses Neffi with gamma radiation. |
| 20:24.08 | Neffi | cool, am I a superhero now? |
| 20:25.06 | Torhal | Nope. Just messily dead. |
| 20:25.15 | Neffi | You mean comic books lied to me? |
| 20:25.19 | Neffi | I won't believe it |
| 20:29.06 | Torhal | Naw, man. Stan Lee and Jack Kirby lied to you. |
| 20:30.45 | Ayrshire | Neffi: Gotta be a better way, but could convert to HSV, adjust V, then go back. |
| 20:33.32 | Ayrshire | http://sputnik.freewisdom.org/lib/colors/ looks potentially useful |
| 20:36.25 | Semlar | hsl transformation neffi |
| 20:36.47 | Semlar | you need to convert the RGB to HSL so you can modify the luminosity |
| 20:39.54 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.20 | Semlar | if a follower has epic mount and high stamina does that mean the high stamina thing will just never work |
| 20:42.36 | Semlar | except on absurdly long missions |
| 20:42.37 | Simca | yes, apparently |
| 20:44.18 | Neffi | Semlar: thank you much. <3 |
| 20:44.24 | Simca | apparently this bug is -still- unfixed (pic from early beta): http://i.imgur.com/Xuk5TXP.png |
| 20:44.29 | Neffi | Ayrshire: thank you too. <3 |
| 20:44.40 | Neffi | Semlar: here's another heart because I <3 you more: <3 |
| 20:44.49 | Semlar | <3 |
| 20:47.12 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:52.45 | Neffi | sounds like much fun is being had |
| 20:53.03 | Semlar | the important thing is i didn't die |
| 20:53.08 | Neffi | what!? |
| 20:53.14 | Semlar | i know |
| 20:53.15 | Neffi | I'm so proud of you Semlar |
| 20:53.16 | Semlar | it's ridiculous |
| 20:53.22 | Semlar | um i died on brackenspore though |
| 20:53.30 | Semlar | if that's any consolation |
| 20:53.36 | Neffi | kind of, yes |
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| 20:54.00 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.09 | VIad | physical gift to 10 years players? does it count the battle.net accounts or just ONE game account that is 10+ years of age? |
| 20:56.21 | Semlar | what now |
| 20:59.28 | VIad | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/4652-Blizzard-Sending-Gift-to-Veteran-Players |
| 20:59.31 | Fisker | Wat |
| 20:59.41 | fewyn | we don't know VIad |
| 20:59.41 | Fisker | Battle.net wasn't until 2008 |
| 20:59.44 | fewyn | there's nothing official |
| 20:59.46 | nevcairiel | VIad: it counts your wow account |
| 20:59.50 | nevcairiel | presumably |
| 20:59.57 | nevcairiel | 60 days within wow classic launch |
| 20:59.58 | fewyn | i'm more curious if you have to have been active with a paying sub the entire time |
| 21:00.05 | VIad | imported my 2004 account in battlenet when it came out |
| 21:00.12 | VIad | nope |
| 21:00.16 | fewyn | i've had to drop it a few months over the last 10 years |
| 21:00.19 | VIad | havent played that old account for years |
| 21:00.25 | VIad | but have other account(s) that Ive played since |
| 21:00.38 | nevcairiel | when your launch account isnt active right now, you may not get things :p |
| 21:01.06 | fewyn | my launch account is active right meow |
| 21:01.24 | nevcairiel | mine is as well, and was never inactive over those 10 years |
| 21:01.45 | Semlar | what's in the box |
| 21:01.49 | VIad | no clue |
| 21:01.53 | nevcairiel | noone has it yet |
| 21:01.58 | Semlar | WHAT'S IN THE BOX |
| 21:02.11 | VIad | but weird I aren't considered veteran, playing since 2004, doesn't mean I am less veteran just because I didnt keep that one account active since 2004 ;p |
| 21:02.21 | VIad | I think I am more veteran with my 5 accounts over the years :P |
| 21:02.34 | Semlar | is it a mount |
| 21:02.43 | VIad | irl mount |
| 21:02.48 | fewyn | http://uplol.fewyn.net/2015-01-15_15-02-46.png |
| 21:03.00 | fewyn | i have too many wow accounts |
| 21:03.29 | VIad | :D |
| 21:03.31 | Neffi | fewyn: um, what does "Canceled" mean? |
| 21:03.37 | VIad | it has playtime |
| 21:03.40 | fewyn | it means i have shut off my sub |
| 21:03.41 | VIad | and active, but no sub |
| 21:03.42 | fewyn | still has play time |
| 21:03.46 | Neffi | Ah, ok |
| 21:03.51 | fewyn | i had to cancel my account |
| 21:03.59 | fewyn | because no job |
| 21:04.03 | Neffi | :| i know that feel bro |
| 21:04.04 | fewyn | i might scrounge up enough for a game card |
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| 21:15.29 | Eriner | good god |
| 21:16.04 | Thunder_Child | Yes my child? |
| 21:16.52 | Eriner | god, why is my addon double-printing every string I print with print(variable) ? |
| 21:17.24 | Thunder_Child | PEBKAC my son. |
| 21:17.50 | Eriner | uh, I don't thinkso |
| 21:18.05 | Fisker | Could be |
| 21:18.24 | Simca | maybe another addon you have is hooking print to make it print twice |
| 21:18.30 | Eriner | there is no reason on your good green earth, Thunder_Child, that 8 print(loadmessage); |
| 21:18.32 | Simca | but i can't imagine why any addon would do that |
| 21:18.42 | Eriner | as first line would print twice |
| 21:19.00 | Eriner | wait, maybe elvui and prat are fighting. Let me investigate |
| 21:19.30 | Thunder_Child | The earth was good when I started. Not so much any more. |
| 21:21.47 | zenzelezz | so... I just got three e-mails from Blizzard, informing me that "Your Free Character Migration is complete". Now, I did do free migration on those three characters... months ago |
| 21:22.01 | zenzelezz | wonder if I'm misremembering the realm name and they just shut down the one they were on |
| 21:31.08 | Ayrshire | No vet for me, despite my WoW account being older than any launch account. After 6 months of beta I didn't bother playing at launch, and didn't come back until BC. |
| 21:31.17 | Fisker | Noooo |
| 21:32.40 | Ayrshire | I suppose there's a chance they just haven't gotten around to Canada yet, but it certainly looks like it's launch accounts only. |
| 21:33.30 | Mr_Rabies | it's just gonna be a photo of chris metzen making the face in the third panel here: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/527/237/09d.png |
| 21:53.49 | Eriner | yeah, prat was being a poophead. fixed double text spam |
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| 22:13.53 | sylvanaar | what was it doing? |
| 22:14.30 | sylvanaar | Eriner: ^ |
| 22:18.40 | Eriner | it was double printing messages, fighting with elvui |
| 22:19.06 | Eriner | it's not your fault, I love your addon :) |
| 22:19.41 | sylvanaar | I was just curious |
| 22:19.48 | Eriner | I had elvui's chat enabled (defaulted on with new toon for testing) and prat enabled as well |
| 22:20.08 | Eriner | and elvui said, fuck this, idc if prat is running, ima print shit anyway |
| 22:22.23 | sylvanaar | Idk how the elvui chat stuff works - was just curious what it takes to be incompatible |
| 22:27.42 | Eriner | I skipped the elvui chat setup thing though, I think that auto-detects prat and disables elvui chat if you want it do. |
| 22:27.47 | Eriner | want it to* |
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| 22:38.40 | zenzelezz | saw this awesome thing on Twitter today: "Muslims are controlling the weather in Britain. In some places it's Sunni, but mainly Shi'ite" |
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| 23:24.10 | fewyn | all my stuff barely fit in my car thoug |
| 23:24.10 | fewyn | h |
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| 23:40.14 | Shirik | today my manager pulled me aside |
| 23:40.23 | Shirik | he tells me one of my team members just went up to him and said "Hey I found this really cool thing today called big-O notation!" |
| 23:40.29 | kd3 | >.< |
| 23:40.34 | tz | wat |
| 23:41.01 | Shirik | yeah |
| 23:42.03 | kullervo | I don't even know what that is |
| 23:42.24 | Primer | me neither |
| 23:42.36 | Stanzilla | me neither |
| 23:42.58 | Shirik | It is a measure of complexity of an algorithm |
| 23:43.14 | tz | it's basically how a function behaves as the number of inputs increases |
| 23:43.33 | Shirik | for example, if you have two algorithms, one is O(n^2) and one is O(n), then the first one is slower than the second because it increases at an exponential rate instead of a linear rate |
| 23:43.46 | Shirik | for example, bubble sort is O(n^2) and quicksort is O(nlogn) |
| 23:43.52 | Shirik | we prefer quicksort |
| 23:43.58 | foxlit | Shirik. |
| 23:44.00 | foxlit | murder. |
| 23:44.04 | Shirik | what |
| 23:44.06 | tz | bogosort tbh |
| 23:44.21 | Shirik | bogosort is O(1) on quantum computers |
| 23:44.28 | Shirik | wait, O(n) |
| 23:44.32 | Shirik | still need to check that it's sorted |
| 23:44.33 | tz | but I don't have one on my desk |
| 23:44.43 | foxlit | "exponential", Shirik. |
| 23:44.50 | Shirik | oops |
| 23:44.53 | Shirik | I'M SORRY |
| 23:44.57 | foxlit | YOU SHOULD BE. |
| 23:44.58 | Shirik | I was typing fast :( |
| 23:45.51 | foxlit | (also, it's a set of functions. Your application may be in the runtime analysis of algorithms, but the notation is more general than that.) |
| 23:46.11 | Shirik | fair enough |
| 23:46.18 | Shirik | point is |
| 23:46.29 | Shirik | if I hired someone and found out he didn't know big-O notation, I would be side |
| 23:46.31 | Shirik | sad |
| 23:47.31 | Shirik | obtw |
| 23:47.37 | Shirik | this guy is a senior engineer |
| 23:47.46 | kd3 | ! |
| 23:48.49 | fewyn | i don't know what big-O notation is... but then i'm not a programmer |
| 23:49.28 | Neffi | it's when somebody burns somebody else and everyone goes "OHHHHHH" |
| 23:49.39 | tz | OHHHHHH |
| 23:49.43 | Shirik | ._. |
| 23:49.47 | Shirik | ~lart Neffi |
| 23:49.47 | purl | installs PocketPC on Neffi's PDA |
| 23:49.59 | tz | oh the humanity... PocketPC |
| 23:50.05 | tz | runs in fear |
| 23:50.16 | Shirik | sooooo |
| 23:50.22 | Shirik | I still use pocketpc on a fairly regular basis |
| 23:50.32 | Shirik | not by choice |
| 23:50.36 | Neffi | D: |
| 23:51.05 | Primer | Hey, guess what? I just found out about this thing called Big-O notation today |
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| 23:51.17 | foxlit | awesome! |
| 23:51.44 | Primer | Also, this made me laugh out loudly at work: http://imgur.com/gallery/eMX4naV |
| 23:51.48 | foxlit | but did you find out anything useful about it? |
| 23:52.03 | Primer | foxlit: I found that it might be useful in Master Plan |
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| 23:52.38 | Primer | To help you determine how long it'll take to program "find the best possible combination of followers" |
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| 23:54.13 | Shirik | Primer: the difference might be that you're not working for me as a senior software engineer :P |
| 23:55.08 | Primer | I'm I'm thankful for that! |
| 23:55.33 | Primer | I enjoy the benefits of the Montgomery Scott philosophy of problem solving |
| 23:55.39 | Primer | Today I was shown a bug |
| 23:55.50 | Primer | I fixed it in about 10 minutes, but I still haven't told my boss |
| 23:56.01 | Primer | I'll tell him later, closer to the end of the day |
| 23:56.11 | Primer | And he'll still think of me as a miracle-worker |
| 23:56.32 | fewyn | hrm is there a website or tool that will show how much it costs in tolls on a certain driving route? |
| 23:56.39 | Primer | Wondering how many people will get the reference... |
| 23:56.48 | Eol | star trek reference? |
| 23:56.55 | Primer | Yes, but specifically |
| 23:57.18 | kd3 | gmaps does. I know it at least shows 'this is a toll road' on some routes |
| 23:57.39 | fewyn | yeah i want to know how much in tolls there is |
| 23:58.37 | Primer | Eol: I mean, it's obvious for anyone who knows who Montgomery Scott is |
| 23:58.46 | Primer | Eol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relics_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation) |
