| 00:02.08 | Torhal | Cookies, nebula169. Perhaps even milk. |
| 00:02.26 | nebula169 | stealing my cookies?! |
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| 00:07.10 | Dagmar | Bathroom selfies. |
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| 00:09.40 | foxlit | nebula169: refresh http://www.townlong-yak.com/master-plan/data/ ; it should tell you |
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| 00:09.47 | nebula169 | yea, i saw :p |
| 00:10.07 | Primer | foxlit: Ok, so I've confirmed there is no double sorting of missions. I'm hoping you're OK with a suggestion of an implicit double sorting of missions? For example, I select chance of success, and the missions are then secondly sorted by follower experience |
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| 00:10.23 | Primer | foxlit: since I'm guessing you have no plan for adding any sort of config to master plan |
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| 00:10.56 | Primer | foxlit: and conversely, when I select follower experience, it sorts by chance of success |
| 00:11.05 | Primer | secondarily, that is |
| 00:11.25 | Primer | I'm pretty sure I didn't see any such suggestion when I skimmed the open tickets the other day |
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| 00:12.04 | Primer | hrmm, that doesn't actually make sense |
| 00:12.22 | Primer | I suppose the first scenario does though. |
| 00:12.27 | Primer | but the second does not |
| 00:13.11 | Primer | heh, ok, I guess it only makes sense when I have multiple 100% chance missions, and doesn't when I don't |
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| 00:36.54 | Sinopsis | does anyone have any code, or know the formula for calculating how much word of glory will heal a prot paly, taking into account bastion of glory stacks etc |
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| 00:55.10 | foxlit | Primer: it's basically unnecessary. |
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| 00:59.28 | foxlit | you should probably sort by xp/hour if you expect to be able to interact with the missions again in the near future, and plain xp if you're about to log off. |
| 00:59.55 | Primer | right |
| 01:00.12 | foxlit | success chance sorting is just weird. I guess you might use it when you're fishing for crates, but that's probably it. |
| 01:00.51 | Mr_Rabies | i use it once i've gotten all the xp i need |
| 01:00.52 | foxlit | (I typically run out of levelling followers and then it sorts by success chance even if that isn't the selected sorting order) |
| 01:01.17 | Mr_Rabies | i tell it to manually sort by success rate just in case because i wasn't sure what it was falling back on |
| 01:01.25 | Mr_Rabies | now that i know i probably won't :p |
| 01:01.43 | foxlit | so the strategy is roughly: scan through the rewards to figure out if there's anything you want (and can get now); then send levelling followers, then send the rest of the gold missions. |
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| 01:07.18 | Mr_Rabies | basically all i want now is gold |
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| 01:07.38 | Mr_Rabies | so i sort by chance of success and then select the gold missions in order by that |
| 01:08.01 | Mr_Rabies | (other than highmaul raid, alligator stones, etc |
| 01:08.04 | Mr_Rabies | ) |
| 01:08.12 | Mr_Rabies | i'm so bad at closing brackets and parenthesis |
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| 01:56.52 | foxlit | http://pastebin.com/aCeZi5qz << go home, Ogres, you're drunk. |
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| 02:06.18 | Semlar | ogre ogre |
| 02:10.35 | foxlit | the second brewmaster in particular is weird |
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| 02:57.32 | Simca | foxlit: what is that even an export of? some masterplan saved variables stuff for debug? |
| 02:59.23 | Semlar | looks like potential abilities |
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| 03:09.42 | nebula169 | Simca: from http://www.townlong-yak.com/master-plan/data/ probably? |
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| 03:21.45 | znf | scratches head |
| 03:21.55 | znf | how the f* does one stop CPanel services? ;-| |
| 03:23.57 | znf | Oh, found it |
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| 03:26.32 | znf | this is the worst shit anyone could have done: http://i.imgur.com/W9pyzsB.png |
| 03:26.32 | kullervo | what's the highmaul mission cooldown again? |
| 03:26.33 | znf | :-/ |
| 03:26.46 | Simca | kullervo: like 2.5 weeks |
| 03:26.57 | nebula169 | 336 hours |
| 03:27.05 | kullervo | hrhm. |
| 03:27.24 | kullervo | so exactly two weeks |
| 03:27.47 | kullervo | so I have about 83 hours until I get my next mythic mission :| |
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| 03:29.03 | kullervo | znf: the muesli being on the same physical device as tmp and home? |
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| 03:29.16 | znf | the what |
| 03:29.42 | znf | muesli?! |
| 03:29.50 | kullervo | mysql |
| 03:30.07 | znf | that too, but I specifically asked them to use /dev/sdb as a backup device |
| 03:30.15 | znf | and somehow they fucked it up imensly |
| 03:30.25 | znf | thank fuck I have 69G for mysql |
| 03:30.29 | znf | but only 115G for backup... |
| 03:30.37 | znf | hates stupid resellers and cpanel |
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| 03:33.29 | znf | now, to figure out how to swap /backup and /home |
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| 03:34.17 | znf | then grow home to full size of /backup somehow |
| 03:34.47 | Neffi | o.O |
| 03:35.16 | znf | I'm getting sick of daily emails of /backup being full |
| 03:35.21 | znf | no shit, bro! |
| 03:35.38 | Thunder_Child | Then turn off the emails. Problem solved. |
| 03:37.28 | znf | or fix the actual problem of space :P |
| 03:38.20 | Thunder_Child | And if you had said "I am sick of my /backup being out of space" I would agree, but you said you were sick of the emails. |
| 03:38.38 | znf | well, I'm getting emails because I have no space! :D |
| 03:38.39 | Thunder_Child | Actually, you said 'daily emails' weekly digest? |
| 03:38.57 | znf | I literally have no idea where to change those in this stupid shit |
| 03:39.27 | Thunder_Child | Get a virtual server instead? |
| 03:40.15 | znf | heavy websites on it |
| 03:40.20 | znf | would not want to switch to a virtual server |
| 03:41.13 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/Zh6wr0h.png |
| 03:43.23 | znf | thinks that maybe he should have cleared out static cache files before initiating a file copy |
| 03:45.28 | Jamash | znf: this is why you shoulda used LVM |
| 03:45.59 | znf | I guess :) |
| 03:46.27 | Jamash | I have my server on LVM on top of MD because I'm crazy |
| 03:46.39 | znf | but the guys we rent the server from... let's just leave it at "not looking that smart" :-/ |
| 03:47.25 | Jamash | actually because LVM didn't have its own raid1 implementation when I formatted the thing last |
| 03:47.34 | Jamash | now apparently it does which is good news |
| 03:47.58 | Jamash | I have two 1TB partitions on a 2TB drive, each one mirrored to one of two 1TB drives |
| 03:48.09 | znf | I've been burned by LVM once, many years ago |
| 03:48.20 | znf | ah, right, one of my disks failed |
| 03:48.24 | znf | didn't catch it in time |
| 03:48.32 | Jamash | thus the raid1 |
| 03:48.51 | znf | oh man, I love Varnish :P |
| 03:49.01 | znf | apache is down, varnish serves the content like a champ |
| 03:49.55 | znf | that reminds me, I need to upgrade varnish, too |
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| 03:54.21 | Mr_Rabies | how is trash in BRF? |
| 03:54.23 | Mr_Rabies | like HM? |
| 03:54.47 | znf | I hope it's not easily puggable :-/ |
| 03:55.02 | znf | At first they're like, "hey, mythical trash loot!" |
| 03:55.27 | Mr_Rabies | i do |
| 03:55.28 | znf | then we find out that it's easily puggable by anyone, so there goes a guild gold making opportunity |
| 03:55.30 | Mr_Rabies | i hate trash |
| 03:55.38 | znf | I like BoEs from trash |
| 03:56.05 | Mr_Rabies | i don't :| |
| 03:56.25 | Mr_Rabies | means i'm guilt tripped when i don't go trash farming |
| 03:57.21 | Mr_Rabies | also it wastes our 6 hours a week :< |
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| 03:59.35 | nebula169 | when you first zone into brf there's a big room with a bunch of trash that branches off to the different wings |
| 03:59.40 | znf | Wonder if I should also switch this to MariaDB and ditch CPanel's MySQL |
| 03:59.46 | nebula169 | so probably better trash farming than hm |
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| 04:16.05 | jleclanche | beautiful |
| 04:16.09 | jleclanche | "More like, the iOS app store gold rush ended. The indie dev scene is thriving on PC. Stop throwing your time and money away developing for a platform overwhelmingly used by people that don't really care about your games, that are looking for brief distractions while they wait in the checkout line, and by and large refuse to pay even a dollar for the privilege. Don't blame the industry because you avoided the platform used by people that actually buy |
| 04:16.09 | jleclanche | games, play them for hours a day, tirelessly promote the good ones on message boards and amongst their friends, and will actually appreciate the effort you put into your work." |
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| 04:26.00 | Dagmar | jleclanche: Bravo to them |
| 04:26.15 | jleclanche | Dagmar: made me want to cry |
| 04:27.13 | Neffi | jleclanche: context/source? |
| 04:27.40 | jleclanche | Neffi: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8879927 |
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| 04:43.50 | znf | so... anyone has any idea how to stop this? http://i.imgur.com/M65cq72.png |
| 04:46.50 | Primer | you don't |
| 04:47.26 | Primer | Perhaps you should state what your ultimate goal is? |
| 04:48.11 | znf | I can't remove /dev/sdb2 :( |
| 04:48.14 | znf | it's umounted |
| 04:48.24 | Primer | Why do you want to remove it? |
| 04:48.32 | znf | because I want to repartition the drive |
| 04:48.34 | Primer | You mean eject it? |
| 04:49.00 | znf | no, just repartition |
| 04:49.10 | znf | Error: Partition /dev/sdb2 is being used. You must unmount it before you modify it with Parted. |
| 04:49.13 | Dagmar | IDE disk? |
| 04:49.17 | znf | it's umounted :-/ |
| 04:49.29 | Primer | mount > pastebin |
| 04:49.29 | znf | Dagmar, nah, scsi |
| 04:50.04 | znf | http://pastebin.com/kvsBS5N6 |
| 04:50.13 | Dagmar | Sounds like time for a reboot if you've managed to mangle the refcounts |
| 04:50.36 | Primer | yeah |
| 04:50.41 | Dagmar | It's not part of an LVM array is it? |
| 04:50.49 | znf | no LVM |
| 04:50.56 | znf | and I can't reboot |
| 04:50.58 | Primer | lsof -n | grep sdb2 |
| 04:51.01 | Dagmar | Well,... hehe there's part of your problem |
| 04:51.09 | znf | Primer, nothing |
| 04:51.22 | Dagmar | The only thing I leave in a classic partition anymore is the boot environment. |
| 04:51.42 | znf | it's gpt |
| 04:51.44 | znf | ah |
| 04:51.47 | znf | you mean volume manager |
| 04:51.51 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 04:52.02 | Dagmar | They can be in use without actually having anything mounted |
| 04:52.14 | Dagmar | ...because LVM will have them in use |
| 04:52.22 | znf | well, the only thing I'm finding here is that xfs is keeping it up |
| 04:52.23 | znf | for some reasons |
| 04:52.31 | znf | (seriously, who mounts /tmp as xfs?! wtf?) |
| 04:52.39 | Dagmar | lol |
| 04:52.41 | Primer | heh, I've never found any use for LVM |
| 04:52.59 | Dagmar | I'd be hard-pressed to justify ext3 there most days |
| 04:53.29 | znf | I remounted it as tmpfs, 2GB |
| 04:53.54 | Dagmar | Meh. I'm not precisely a fan of using it for that, since it can consume swap |
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| 04:54.26 | znf | I've got 32GB ram, most of it unused, so, meh |
| 04:54.37 | Primer | tmpfs should not consume swap |
| 04:54.41 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/zMSzQ0d.png |
| 04:55.18 | znf | hmm, I should make varnish use tmpfs |
| 04:55.22 | Dagmar | Jesus that thing is tiny |
| 04:55.33 | Dagmar | Oh wait lol |
| 04:55.37 | Dagmar | I didn't see the -mt |
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| 04:56.40 | Dagmar | Primer: Should and can are two different things |
| 04:57.15 | Dagmar | With loads of loose ram it shoudjn't be a problem tho |
| 04:57.42 | Primer | Dagmar: You know this for a fact? Because I'd hate to think that something that's supposed to be in physical memory can be swapped out to disk |
| 04:57.52 | Dagmar | I deal with too many virtual machines where tmpfs is not exactly going to make the managing host happy |
| 04:58.06 | znf | Primer, Everything stored in tmpfs is temporary in the sense that no files will be created on the hard drive; however, swap space is used as backing store in case of low memory situations |
| 04:58.18 | Primer | especially since the default config for it is half of physical (read: not including swap) RAM |
| 04:58.21 | Dagmar | Primer: It's configurable, but typically can use up to half of swap if it needs to |
| 04:58.59 | Dagmar | There's not really any problem with using it for /tmp since those files are never supposed to be guaranteed to exists between reboots anyway |
| 04:59.04 | znf | >but unlike ramfs it supports swapping out less-used pages to swap space as well as filesystem size and inode limits to prevent out of memory situations (defaulting to half of physical RAM and half the number of RAM pages, respectively). |
| 04:59.06 | Primer | So, I finally got windows 7 working with 100% proper focus follows mouse |
| 04:59.08 | Dagmar | However, it makes VM hosts angry |
| 04:59.16 | Primer | and it didn't require any third party shit |
| 04:59.42 | Primer | It did require some regedit |
| 05:00.00 | Primer | to 1) not raise the window, and 2) switch with absolutely no delay |
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| 05:21.02 | znf | mount: /dev/sdb2 already mounted or /backup busy |
| 05:21.02 | znf | root@server [~]# umount /dev/sdb2 |
| 05:21.02 | znf | umount: /dev/sdb2: not mounted |
| 05:21.02 | znf | fu |
| 05:25.30 | jleclanche | znf: try sudo hdparm -Y /dev/sdb2 |
| 05:25.34 | jleclanche | force it to sleep |
| 05:26.36 | znf | HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(sleep) failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device |
| 05:27.01 | znf | oh, there we go |
| 05:27.01 | jleclanche | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:27.03 | znf | doh, /dev/sdb |
| 05:27.03 | znf | yes |
| 05:27.18 | Shirik | noooo |
| 05:27.35 | jleclanche | hugs Shirik |
| 05:27.39 | jleclanche | it's okay |
| 05:27.43 | jleclanche | it'll all work out |
| 05:28.08 | Shirik | use the magic sysrq key! |
| 05:28.16 | znf | now, seeing that this will store backups, but I've already been anally raped by it, should I use xfs on this new fs? |
| 05:28.53 | tz | zomg REISUB |
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| 05:29.17 | znf | actually, I don't care about the performance of the fs, it's just backups |
| 05:29.37 | Shirik | Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken |
| 05:30.33 | znf | now, how to make the kernel read the partition table... |
| 05:33.13 | jleclanche | Shirik: that's a much better one than skinny elephants. where do you find your mnemonics? |
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| 05:33.34 | Shirik | that's what I've always been told |
| 05:34.53 | znf | I managed to make the partition |
| 05:35.01 | znf | but I can't make the kernel re-read the partition table |
| 05:35.04 | znf | fu XFS |
| 05:35.20 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/ISzyFQr.png |
| 05:37.34 | znf | ponders |
| 05:37.47 | znf | if I use the whole disk instead of partition, is it considered "aligned"? |
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| 05:46.41 | Mr_Rabies | you're giving me flashbacks to the times in my life i've tried out various linux distros znf |
| 05:46.50 | Mr_Rabies | i think you may be triggering me |
| 06:00.58 | karl_w_w | welp, windows update has been checking for updates for about 12 hours |
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| 06:44.44 | Ssateneth | lol whats this |
| 06:44.48 | Ssateneth | "Future Mission" |
| 06:44.54 | Ssateneth | inb4 'its a future mission' |
| 06:45.33 | Ssateneth | ah BrF raid mission |
| 06:45.53 | Ssateneth | 100% them all already haha |
| 06:56.58 | aksa | yup |
| 06:57.18 | aksa | And propably after the 300 things you need to gather more and more :) |
| 06:57.23 | aksa | which becomes the future mission |
| 07:03.25 | Simca | Ssateneth: well, you have the potential to 100% them in the future you mean |
| 07:03.32 | Simca | the ilvl req is 660 or 665 iirc |
| 07:03.37 | Simca | so you have to raise them |
| 07:06.39 | Primer | I spoke too soon |
| 07:06.44 | Primer | I can't alt tab between 2 instances of wow |
| 07:07.26 | Primer | windows just fucking fails |
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| 08:08.45 | foxlit | Simca: it's follower/ability bindings. |
| 08:09.45 | Fisker | sleeping |
| 08:10.07 | foxlit | There appear to be some placeholder followers of each spec that have 5 bound abilities by default, which is probably where the epic abilities are pulled from. |
| 08:10.58 | foxlit | Fisker: does not particularly matter, I imagine there is scrollback involved. |
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| 08:12.28 | foxlit | And then there are those ogres, which are probably the trait pools, except that weird brewmaster. |
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| 08:14.16 | Fisker | I had so much sleep foxlit |
| 08:14.58 | foxlit | On a mildly related note, you should upload more http://www.townlong-yak.com/master-plan/data/ |
| 08:17.58 | foxlit | (Can benefit from multiple uploads from the same character, as long as the available missions/follower levels are different.) |
| 08:20.02 | Fisker | kekbur foxlit |
| 08:20.16 | Fisker | I don't understand |
| 08:20.38 | Fisker | Apparently the game picked up garrison resources and converted them to nothing |
| 08:20.52 | Fisker | Which is a jerk move |
| 08:21.14 | nevcairiel | i wonder how many resources i already lost because i was capped |
| 08:22.44 | Fisker | It's annoying that it somehow loots it by itself |
| 08:23.34 | znf | I literally have no idea how WHM/cPanel builds its config |
| 08:23.43 | znf | it says that it builds it from "/var/cpanel/templates/apache2/main.default" |
| 08:23.55 | znf | I edit that file, I run the rebuild script, no change comes up |
| 08:24.35 | Fisker | template? |
| 08:24.54 | znf | that's the template location ^ |
| 08:25.31 | rid_ | check the rebuild script |
| 08:25.37 | rid_ | the magic should be in there |
| 08:26.29 | Fisker | That's a lot of data foxlit |
| 08:27.22 | znf | rid_, not idea which, tbh |
| 08:27.26 | znf | there's like 3 of them |
| 08:27.28 | znf | or something like that |
| 08:28.15 | Fisker | I assume it builds info from my followers right foxlit? i.e. I won't need to do this when I get new missions only if I get new followers? |
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| 08:32.02 | Fisker | gah nevcairiel I wish I had those ~600 resources back |
| 08:32.10 | Fisker | or actually was closer to 700 |
| 08:32.54 | Mr_Rabies | argh |
| 08:32.59 | Mr_Rabies | this week's garrison campaign quest |
| 08:33.13 | Mr_Rabies | so ANGRY |
| 08:33.39 | Fisker | I haven't gotten any, because I have to find out which one I skipped the assault on X on :< |
| 08:33.45 | Mr_Rabies | (these campaign quests are awesome) |
| 08:34.12 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think you have to do the assault part to do them |
| 08:34.14 | nevcairiel | poor thorn, so sad |
| 08:34.43 | Mr_Rabies | i always do them, basically 800 free apexis |
| 08:34.45 | Fisker | Mr_Rabies there was a blue post saying you had to |
| 08:34.59 | Mr_Rabies | ah |
| 08:35.06 | Mr_Rabies | i'm sure there's a script you can run |
| 08:35.12 | Mr_Rabies | just gotta find out what all the quests are called |
| 08:35.31 | Fisker | I think the last one I did was the soulgrinder one |
| 08:35.36 | Fisker | so I'll check there first |
| 08:35.40 | Mr_Rabies | that one's kinda buggy |
| 08:35.41 | Fisker | didn't immediately find a script |
| 08:35.42 | Mr_Rabies | i think |
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| 08:39.05 | znf | I literally looked trough all my cpanel templates, none of them contain %h |
| 08:39.16 | znf | yet, my httpd.conf gets generated with one %h |
| 08:39.54 | Mr_Rabies | oh boy |
| 08:40.25 | Mr_Rabies | there's a pretty huge monk-related bug that's letting them one-shot anything, including highmaul bosses |
| 08:40.26 | Fisker | 210 cloth left until my last bag upgrade |
| 08:40.30 | Mr_Rabies | that's gonna be a LOT of bans |
| 08:40.52 | znf | Fisker, are you doing bank, too?! |
| 08:41.00 | Fisker | of course |
| 08:41.54 | Mr_Rabies | geez |
| 08:41.57 | Mr_Rabies | what's the point |
| 08:41.59 | Mr_Rabies | even I |
| 08:42.02 | Mr_Rabies | king packrat |
| 08:42.05 | Mr_Rabies | still have space |
| 08:42.07 | Mr_Rabies | i have |
| 08:42.13 | Mr_Rabies | halaa research tokens i might use |
| 08:42.14 | Mr_Rabies | -someday- |
| 08:42.16 | Mr_Rabies | in my bank |
| 08:42.33 | nevcairiel | you do know that what they sell for those is kinda limited :p |
| 08:42.41 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 08:42.46 | Mr_Rabies | i just want enough for the talbuks |
| 08:42.50 | nevcairiel | also, if you still have space, you are not king packrat |
| 08:42.50 | Mr_Rabies | someday |
| 08:42.54 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 08:42.57 | Mr_Rabies | i certainly didn't in MoP |
| 08:42.57 | nevcairiel | just go buy them |
| 08:43.04 | Mr_Rabies | i don't have enough for them |
| 08:43.21 | nevcairiel | if you ever had the mission that rewards them, its enough for at least one of the talbuks |
| 08:43.37 | Mr_Rabies | 33 battle, 13 research |
| 08:43.44 | Mr_Rabies | is what i have |
| 08:43.49 | Mr_Rabies | have had them in my bank since TBC |
| 08:43.50 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 08:43.58 | nevcairiel | so, not gotten the mission yet :p |
| 08:44.07 | nevcairiel | i had it twice, on the second time i just threw the marks out |
| 08:44.11 | nevcairiel | i have all the talbuks now |
| 08:44.29 | znf | I have around 500 across all alts :-/ |
| 08:44.38 | znf | I think my druid got it 3 times for some reasons |
| 08:44.59 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 08:45.05 | Mr_Rabies | nah, i've never gotten it |
| 08:45.13 | Mr_Rabies | which is weird because i've messed with my garrison daily |
| 08:45.19 | Mr_Rabies | is it tied to a building? |
| 08:46.43 | znf | doubt it |
| 08:46.49 | znf | my shaman got it, and it's lvl91 |
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| 08:46.55 | znf | no actual crafting buildings |
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| 09:03.11 | aksa | I have no idea what im doing, for example if i want to add a picture in to my UI through KGPANELS, Artwork path is the key right? and i need to type like D/???/???.jpg ? :) |
| 09:03.15 | Mr_Rabies | if you picked racial guards for your garrison, how do you roll back to default? D: |
| 09:03.52 | Mr_Rabies | i think it's a relative path based on the world of warcraft or interface or addon folder, not sure which |
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| 09:04.22 | Mr_Rabies | and i think to add artwork to wow it needs to be either...tga or blp? |
| 09:04.23 | Mr_Rabies | i forget |
| 09:04.41 | aksa | To photoshop that is |
| 09:04.53 | Mr_Rabies | i'm mostly just here to bother people about addons but i figure pointing you in maybe the right direction possibly might help |
| 09:04.55 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 09:05.20 | aksa | :) |
| 09:05.43 | Mr_Rabies | followers won't leave draenor, will they? |
| 09:06.04 | Mr_Rabies | tempted to drag one to timeless isle with me |
| 09:07.18 | nevcairiel | they wont even go to ashran with you |
| 09:07.31 | Mr_Rabies | jerks |
| 09:07.51 | Mr_Rabies | gonna try out timeless isle elites for shaohao rep just for some quick giggles |
| 09:08.04 | Fisker | ugh |
| 09:08.19 | Fisker | Shouldn't have abandoned my quest to kill garrosh to make space for quests :P |
| 09:08.35 | plaw | derp |
| 09:09.10 | znf | nevcairiel, technically they do, they just get despawned :P |
| 09:09.20 | Mr_Rabies | holy hell it takes forever to get to timeless isle |
| 09:09.31 | nevcairiel | use the portal in gorgrond |
| 09:09.31 | Mr_Rabies | i miss draenor flight routes |
| 09:09.41 | Mr_Rabies | oh, right there's some weird portal thing right |
| 09:09.49 | Mr_Rabies | what is this, mario 64 |
| 09:09.51 | nevcairiel | or get a teleport trinket |
| 09:10.18 | Mr_Rabies | people really don't realize how much better the flight paths in draenor are |
| 09:10.23 | Mr_Rabies | they're just obsessed with the idea of flying |
| 09:11.16 | znf | I miss flying |
| 09:11.21 | aksa | i hate flying |
| 09:11.26 | znf | fuck flightpaths |
| 09:11.27 | aksa | especially with the treasures around |
| 09:11.31 | aksa | its just better to not have them |
| 09:11.42 | znf | well, screw you, too, aksa |
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| 09:11.56 | znf | I hate the fact that it takes me 5 minutes to get to Highmaul |
| 09:11.58 | znf | actually, more |
| 09:12.13 | nevcairiel | with that distance it probably wouldnt be all that faster with flying |
| 09:12.17 | Mr_Rabies | it takes me about 20 seconds from my garrison |
| 09:12.23 | nevcairiel | build a spirit lodge, get the portal there |
| 09:12.23 | aksa | highmaul = portal boys :) |
| 09:12.30 | aksa | slack and wait for your group to summon |
| 09:12.37 | znf | not getting that stupid ogre shit |
| 09:12.40 | Mr_Rabies | aviana's feather plus falling flame :D |
| 09:12.44 | aksa | ye :D |
| 09:13.02 | Mr_Rabies | you can clear one side of draenor to the other if you get high enough in the air, i suspect |
| 09:13.05 | znf | or, even better: flying mount |
| 09:13.07 | Mr_Rabies | in about a minute |
| 09:13.09 | znf | jesus, we had them since BC |
| 09:13.13 | Mr_Rabies | nah |
| 09:13.18 | Mr_Rabies | they're awful for current content |
| 09:13.22 | znf | Why do I need a gimmicky item (Aviana's Feather) for that? |
| 09:13.34 | nevcairiel | you dont, you can also just ride there |
| 09:13.36 | Mr_Rabies | because it's on a cooldown |
| 09:13.39 | Mr_Rabies | and doesn't trivialize everything |
| 09:13.50 | znf | Who gives a fuck about trivializing? |
| 09:13.51 | znf | Seriously |
| 09:13.56 | aksa | the .TGA didnt work atleast |
| 09:13.58 | znf | I havent' stepped out of my garrison in 2 weeks now |
| 09:14.03 | Mr_Rabies | just logout outside highmaul then |
| 09:14.03 | aksa | or maybe im doing something wrong |
| 09:14.04 | nevcairiel | also its super hard to do a perfect landing with avianas feather, since you travel super fast :p |
| 09:14.05 | znf | And I have no desire to do so |
| 09:14.06 | aksa | its just a green box |
| 09:14.07 | Mr_Rabies | and stay there |
| 09:14.31 | znf | I really don't understand you people |
| 09:14.40 | nevcairiel | you just suck, deal with it |
| 09:14.40 | znf | You want immersion and all that bullshit? Stop using a flying mount |
| 09:14.43 | Mr_Rabies | flying mounts are on my list of worst additions |
| 09:14.51 | Mr_Rabies | along with arenas |
| 09:14.52 | znf | Nobody's forcing you do use it |
| 09:14.54 | Mr_Rabies | and daily quests |
| 09:15.07 | aksa | flying mounts dont allow you to outdoor pvp |
| 09:15.10 | nevcairiel | its no immersion if every other idiot just flys around you and you're alone on the ground |
| 09:15.20 | Mr_Rabies | flying mounts mean you have to make the world 3x bigger to get the same effect |
| 09:15.27 | Mr_Rabies | which totally, totally sucks without one |
| 09:15.33 | znf | aksa, because "outdoor pvp" is totally a thing now |
| 09:15.40 | Primer | wtf |
| 09:15.44 | aksa | Who the fucks wait for ashran, why so negative |
| 09:15.48 | Primer | might as well dislike the entire game then |
| 09:16.04 | aksa | Now can someone help me with this artwork thingy, .tga file is a green box atleast |
| 09:16.07 | plaw | worst addition is the login screen, yes |
| 09:16.15 | nevcairiel | dont mind znf, he complains and whines at everything anyway |
| 09:16.17 | znf | the rare ocasion I encounter an alliance on my horde dominated realm we just pass by each other completely ignoring each other |
| 09:16.32 | znf | ain't nobody got time for "outdoor pvp" |
| 09:16.43 | aksa | What you got time for? |
| 09:16.45 | aksa | Raiding? |
| 09:16.53 | znf | raids and garrison missions |
| 09:16.54 | Mr_Rabies | it's basically noclip, except you clip |
| 09:16.54 | plaw | sitting around in your garrison? |
| 09:17.01 | znf | nothing else to do in game now |
| 09:17.03 | aksa | Whats your progress in raids? |
| 09:17.18 | znf | 1/7M for myself, 2/7M for my guild (I missed a few raids) |
| 09:17.18 | Mr_Rabies | there's also exploring looking for treasure |
| 09:17.22 | Mr_Rabies | and uh |
| 09:17.27 | Mr_Rabies | garrison campaign stuff |
| 09:17.33 | Mr_Rabies | both of which would be totally broken by flight |
| 09:17.35 | znf | Mr_Rabies, which everyone did in their first week, you mean? |
| 09:17.39 | aksa | Nagrand chat is best |
| 09:17.41 | znf | I got the treasure hunter while leveling |
| 09:17.48 | aksa | All the 200 treasures? |
| 09:17.50 | znf | yes |
| 09:17.52 | nevcairiel | typical znf, complaining that there is nothing to do but complaining he has no time to do stuff |
| 09:18.07 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 09:18.10 | znf | I've done all that crap. Now give me my flying mount. |
| 09:18.13 | aksa | I would commend you a seppuku |
| 09:18.15 | Mr_Rabies | i have 71 and i look for treasure all the time |
| 09:18.20 | Mr_Rabies | just uninstall, save yourself the headache |
| 09:18.29 | znf | How the hell do you "still look"? |
| 09:18.31 | nevcairiel | znf: since you never leave your garrison, where would you fly to |
| 09:18.40 | znf | There's about 3 addons that put all of them on your map. |
| 09:18.42 | Mr_Rabies | perhaps if you didn't burn yourself out so fast you'd have stuff to do |
| 09:18.44 | znf | 3 that I know of |
| 09:19.01 | Mr_Rabies | now you pay the price and wait around |
| 09:19.21 | znf | nevcairiel, raid entrance, obviously |
| 09:19.30 | znf | And the ocasional "shit, I have to leave the garrison" |
| 09:19.37 | nevcairiel | znf: saving 10 seconds isnt worth getting a flying mount for :p |
| 09:19.41 | znf | or, "hey, rare spawn in X location" |
| 09:20.07 | aksa | What was the different from .tga? |
| 09:20.10 | znf | but noooo, 5 spawn points for a rare mob, 5 minutes travel time between each other, because people dislike flying mounts... geez |
| 09:20.10 | aksa | To add to UI |
| 09:20.16 | nevcairiel | in more productive topics, did blizzard screw up the legendary questline rings for healers again? the proc doesnt seem to trigger from heals |
| 09:20.33 | Mr_Rabies | anyone know anything about adding artwork to wow to help aksa :p |
| 09:20.40 | plaw | nevcairiel: productive? #wowuidev? ban thyself!!! :P |
| 09:20.50 | nevcairiel | i rather ban znf and his constant whining, its boring :D |
| 09:21.23 | znf | I just can't understand the type of player who dislikes flying mounts... It's not logical. |
| 09:21.59 | nevcairiel | your mind just isnt smart enough to understand |
| 09:22.00 | nevcairiel | its ok |
| 09:22.16 | znf | or you're just looking trough rose-tinted glasses |
| 09:22.24 | znf | "oh, we didn't have those in vanilla, those were the times" |
| 09:22.43 | znf | nevcairiel, not everyone gives a fuck about running around on a mount to meet other people |
| 09:23.03 | nevcairiel | you know that people wanting flying are actually in a minority |
| 09:23.16 | znf | I doubt that |
| 09:23.21 | Mr_Rabies | i'm one of the least nostalgic people in the game |
| 09:23.26 | znf | vocal minority, maybe |
| 09:23.31 | plaw | bugger flying, I've often wondered why after drinking lots of alcohol the characters don't start crawling |
| 09:23.40 | plaw | hands and knees |
| 09:23.43 | Mr_Rabies | fact of the matter is you need a much larger world if flying mounts are considered in the world design |
| 09:23.51 | nevcairiel | actually those that want something changed are usually the vocal part :p |
| 09:24.02 | Mr_Rabies | and also dangers in the sky |
| 09:24.05 | Mr_Rabies | both of which they've tried |
| 09:24.08 | Mr_Rabies | neither really work well |
| 09:24.17 | znf | most of my guild wants those back, they're too lazy to go on the forums |
| 09:24.23 | Mr_Rabies | the last thing blizzard needs to do is to let you complete the game -even faster- |
| 09:24.31 | znf | I don't care to go on the forums, either |
| 09:24.44 | nevcairiel | most of my guild is happy this way |
| 09:24.57 | Mr_Rabies | they've found a pretty good midground between quick and challenging |
| 09:24.58 | nevcairiel | but we already established that your guild is full of arrogant anti-socials a long time ago anyway :D |
| 09:25.14 | Mr_Rabies | just install speedhacks and run around until you get banned |
| 09:25.24 | Mr_Rabies | do all yourselves a favor and break free of the addiction |
| 09:25.31 | znf | What's "challenging" about this? |
| 09:25.35 | nevcairiel | personally i would be happy if we never get flying in draenor, but blizzard is going to give it to the znfs in this world eventually |
| 09:25.47 | Mr_Rabies | the fact that there are actually things that can kill you on the ground |
| 09:25.50 | Mr_Rabies | and there aren't in the air |
| 09:25.52 | znf | I run around 2-shoting every mob, most of them I can simply avoid |
| 09:26.09 | znf | no, seriously, I'm not all decked in greens, there's no mob that can kill me unless I can AFK |
| 09:26.21 | znf | s/can// |
| 09:26.49 | Mr_Rabies | guess they just need to add more scaling abilities to mobs then |
| 09:26.50 | znf | there's absolutely no challenge in "traveling around the world on a ground mount", and I have no idea how someone could still see it that way |
| 09:27.20 | znf | even if something gets me off my mount, I can CC, Stealth, mount, keep running |
| 09:27.25 | znf | It just wastes my time |
| 09:27.36 | Mr_Rabies | sounds like you need -more- timesinks, not less |
| 09:28.11 | nevcairiel | if you dont want to spend a minimal amount of time on a open-world mmo, you should stop playing |
| 09:28.19 | nevcairiel | so, please stop playing and finally leave us alone :P |
| 09:28.21 | znf | there's nothing to spend it on, really... |
| 09:28.29 | znf | Why did you get out of your garrison today? |
| 09:28.53 | nevcairiel | see, again, you complain there is nothing to do, and yet you demand the few things that there are to do should be doable even faster |
| 09:29.08 | nevcairiel | if you dont see the error in your logic, i pity you |
| 09:29.57 | znf | I like doing *stuff*, running from A to B on a slow-ass ground mount is not *stuff* |
| 09:30.04 | znf | It just stands between me and the objective |
| 09:30.06 | Mr_Rabies | it's like using all the warp zones in super mario bros then complaining that the game's too quick |
| 09:30.19 | Mr_Rabies | but also asking for more warp zones |
| 09:30.23 | aksa | lol |
| 09:30.24 | nebula169 | spoiled by flying |
| 09:33.24 | znf | Shouldn't the haste change be live already on EU? |
| 09:33.30 | Mr_Rabies | from a game design perspective, for the game world to feel real and alive, it needs to have room to breathe |
| 09:33.44 | znf | Or the tooltip won't update? |
| 09:33.58 | nebula169 | its like, no tooltip fixes until 6.1 |
| 09:34.00 | Mr_Rabies | if you're gonna just make it take ten seconds to get anywhere, the world has lost all purpose |
| 09:34.01 | nebula169 | live* |
| 09:34.44 | Mr_Rabies | so then you need to make it take x amount of times longer to get anywhere, so you make the world TOO big |
| 09:34.56 | znf | Ah, the value granted (460 -> 4.60%) is not updated, bu the actual effect is |
| 09:35.04 | znf | ie: 5.11% |
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| 09:39.42 | foxlit | Hey, GW2 mass-transit is instant and awesome. |
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| 09:40.35 | foxlit | The purpose of the world is to provide variety; instant long-distance travel doesn't break that. |
| 09:40.42 | nevcairiel | if you want instant transit, you can build the mage tower/spirit lodge, its not like there are no options, people just dont want them, they want the cake and eat it too :p |
| 09:42.01 | znf | those locations are pretty arbitrary |
| 09:42.09 | znf | and you need a crappy consumable item to use one |
| 09:42.11 | nevcairiel | there is one very close to highmaul :p |
| 09:42.16 | znf | I don't see the point of that building at all |
| 09:42.31 | Mr_Rabies | faster travel for those allergic to flight paths |
| 09:43.01 | nevcairiel | also, dont you only need the items to open the portal, not to use it? |
| 09:43.38 | Simca | <Mr_Rabies> what is this, mario 64 |
| 09:43.39 | Simca | yes. |
| 09:43.42 | Simca | :D |
| 09:44.01 | znf | foxlit, "Oops. Something went wrong" when uploading |
| 09:44.28 | znf | ah |
| 09:44.29 | znf | zip it |
| 09:45.26 | aksa | http://static.ylilauta.org/files/a2/orig/shwazdpe/lasten_allah.mp4 |
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| 09:45.43 | Mr_Rabies | the engineering thing is pretty convenient as well |
| 09:46.15 | foxlit | Fisher: it's both; so just having news missions is sufficient. |
| 09:46.38 | foxlit | Autocorrect on nick suggestions is clearly awesome. |
| 09:47.47 | foxlit | Fisker^ |
| 09:47.51 | Fisker | :o |
| 09:47.58 | Fisker | very awesome |
| 09:48.26 | Fisker | does /md save then append or overwrite info? |
| 09:49.30 | foxlit | Appends. Do /md reset after uploading. |
| 09:50.05 | Fisker | http://media.rockstargames.com/rockstargames/img/global/news/upload/pctrevor_full.jpg <-well done the buttons on the shirt are higher res than the shirt itself |
| 09:50.12 | Fisker | fire your texture guys |
| 09:50.15 | aksa | Aaach still havent found how to add the picture, tga hasnt worked atleast |
| 09:52.47 | nevcairiel | tgas work just fine, however note that any images need to have a dimension thats a power of two, so 256x128 or 512x512 or 1024x256 ... you get it i hope :p |
| 09:53.10 | aksa | otherwise they become green or so..? =) |
| 09:53.26 | foxlit | Restart trap is perhaps marginally more likely. |
| 09:53.37 | aksa | you say what |
| 09:54.11 | foxlit | http://www.townlong-yak.com/tga may help with image encoding. |
| 09:54.25 | Mr_Rabies | you and your yak foxlit |
| 09:55.57 | foxlit | "A boy and his yak?" |
| 09:56.46 | aksa | Was there a place to put the images at, interface/addons or does it really matter |
| 10:00.02 | aksa | Hmm still not working |
| 10:00.30 | Simca | I've always assumed addons can only reference files outside the VFS if they're inside the addon's folder |
| 10:00.47 | Simca | but i've never tested that - i just always put it in the addon's folder for the addon i want |
| 10:04.00 | plaw | mmm yak fat |
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| 10:05.43 | Jamash | foxlit: how does it feel to have the #2 addon on curse.com? |
| 10:20.50 | plaw | still?! |
| 10:38.17 | mikma | jamash: he's like +1mm |
| 10:38.31 | Jamash | I don't know what that means |
| 10:38.41 | Jamash | he's one millimeter taller? |
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| 10:50.00 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/WGkuXpY |
| 10:51.10 | karl_w_w | nice, so intel are giving money to sexism now |
| 11:19.04 | Fisker | I wonder nevcairiel |
| 11:19.17 | Fisker | oh darn it |
| 11:19.35 | Fisker | I want a store house, but I want to replace my enchanter's study but that means no more illusions for me ;_; |
| 11:24.08 | Simca | can you put them on scrolls? |
| 11:26.26 | Fisker | idk maybe |
| 11:27.29 | Fisker | Actually I like my enchant as is, but I'm not sure the +15 work orders is worth it anyway |
| 11:28.41 | Simca | they're not unless you're going away |
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| 11:31.44 | nevcairiel | I like the store house for bank access on my main |
| 11:32.04 | nevcairiel | Helps that I practically don't need any of my profession buildings |
| 11:33.19 | nevcairiel | You can get illusions in other peoples garrisons |
| 11:33.55 | Simca | not last i checked |
| 11:34.04 | Simca | NPC will not talk to you |
| 11:35.08 | nevcairiel | Worked for me a bit ago |
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| 11:39.34 | Simca | welp |
| 11:40.08 | Simca | to brave the depths of GarrisonMission:ComputeSuccessChance(void) or not |
| 11:40.22 | Simca | if I do, I can maybe figure out what is wrong with my success chance formula |
| 11:40.33 | Simca | on the other hand, it is huge. |
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| 12:18.27 | Simca | probably a stupid question |
| 12:18.35 | Simca | but how do you determine if a player is horde or alliance? |
| 12:18.47 | Simca | "Faction" doesn't seem to be the right word |
| 12:24.35 | Fisker | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitFactionGroup ? |
| 12:25.04 | Simca | ah yes |
| 12:25.07 | Simca | just saw it |
| 12:34.01 | karl_w_w | what the fuck Fisker |
| 12:34.08 | Fisker | yes karl_w_w |
| 12:34.12 | karl_w_w | who drafts wild growth in arena and wins? |
| 12:34.58 | Fisker | me |
| 12:35.09 | Fisker | Winning at least 1 game in arena isn't that hard |
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| 13:04.13 | aksa | I just cant myself through this shit, anybody willing to hold my hand on this one T_T |
| 13:04.39 | aksa | forgot to put the word put between cant_myself... ;_; |
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| 13:08.35 | Semlar | do what now |
| 13:10.04 | aksa | Still on my way to add a single freaking picture into the game |
| 13:13.59 | aksa | Yeij i got it |
| 13:14.15 | aksa | Finally a useful guide |
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| 13:51.44 | karl_w_w | holy crap Fisker, the value is amazing |
| 13:52.05 | karl_w_w | this deathlord has killed 3 minions and had echo of medivh cast on him |
| 13:52.11 | karl_w_w | and taken a silence |
| 13:52.14 | Fisker | :O |
| 13:59.06 | jleclanche | anyone really good with sql around? Dagmar maybe? |
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| 14:08.10 | Fisker | huggletackles Lopeppeppy |
| 14:08.46 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker-boo, I am cold. Please to turn on the heat for me? (water main break = no heat for the system = f'ing frozen Peppy) |
| 14:09.09 | Fisker | I do not command the seas |
| 14:09.11 | Fisker | :( |
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| 14:09.45 | Simca | new Fire Emblem hype |
| 14:10.07 | Fisker | what fire emblem? |
| 14:10.10 | Simca | directly downloadable Wii games on Wii U hype |
| 14:10.32 | Fisker | why wii u hype? |
| 14:10.33 | Simca | I don't know if they announced the title, but I wasn't paying a ton of attention |
| 14:11.15 | Simca | I have no wii u hype but I like several wii games and my sister takes mine for months at time to play smash with her friends |
| 14:12.04 | Fisker | I need a faster frameshift drive |
| 14:12.06 | Fisker | https://cdn.mediacru.sh/k/kXQaVZKhdhZO.png :< |
| 14:12.35 | Lopeppeppy | Notice how the heat always breaks on the coldest days, when the water mains break? Rawr. |
| 14:12.51 | Fisker | should get heating for your water Lopeppeppy |
| 14:12.53 | Fisker | silly people |
| 14:13.10 | Fisker | I've been in supercruise for like 20 minutes now |
| 14:13.20 | Fisker | I've travelled 0.2 out of 0.22 Ly |
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| 14:14.39 | Fisker | oh this trip apparently takes literal hours |
| 14:14.46 | Fisker | RIP |
| 14:16.14 | Lopeppeppy | It was nice of you to try, Fisker, thank you. |
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| 14:17.06 | Fisker | I did my best ariel impression Lopeppeppy :( |
| 14:17.28 | Simca | http://www.twitch.tv/nintendo if anyone else is interested |
| 14:18.19 | Simca | oh god no. |
| 14:18.28 | Simca | tingle in hyrule warriors |
| 14:22.56 | karl_w_w | why would anyone be interested |
| 14:23.08 | karl_w_w | nintendo haven't made something relevent since the N64 |
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| 14:27.13 | Simca | pikmin, the prime trilogy, super mario sunshine, and wind waker to name an easy four counterexamples |
| 14:34.46 | Fisker | n3ds launch date Simca? |
| 14:35.49 | Simca | feb 13 |
| 14:36.54 | Simca | no AC adapter, wat |
| 14:36.55 | Simca | lol |
| 14:38.53 | Fisker | That was with the original one as well Simca |
| 14:39.02 | Fisker | Only you guys were too whiny about it |
| 14:39.07 | Fisker | so nintendo held your hand |
| 14:39.58 | Simca | i'm not a fan - that's apple pricing tactics there |
| 14:41.13 | Fisker | I think it was more acceptable now than before |
| 14:41.31 | Fisker | anyway usb cable was like 5$ |
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| 14:42.44 | karl_w_w | exclusively at gamestop |
| 14:43.31 | karl_w_w | people still buying these anti-consumer products |
| 14:43.36 | karl_w_w | it's quite incredible |
| 14:43.47 | Fisker | uwot? |
| 14:45.52 | Simca | bundle. |
| 14:45.58 | karl_w_w | and pre-orders |
| 14:46.44 | Simca | majora's mask is my favorite game of all time, why do they do this to me |
| 14:46.56 | karl_w_w | because you fall for it |
| 14:47.02 | karl_w_w | and then they make money |
| 14:47.47 | Simca | i'm actually pretty surprised; MM is probably the least popular zelda title in the last 20 years |
| 14:48.05 | karl_w_w | quick, better pre-order it at gamestop so you can get a piece of mass-produced metal that cost them 5 cents and you will forget about in a drawer |
| 14:48.35 | Simca | screw preorders |
| 14:53.06 | aksa | Any one have cool unitframes addon |
| 14:53.12 | aksa | I hate xperl, suf etc |
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| 14:58.54 | Ayrshire | aksa: ElvUI maybe? Not just unit frames though. I don't use it but lots of people like it. |
| 15:02.57 | aksa | I just uninstalled elvui after using it for months |
| 15:03.09 | aksa | I really liked the unitframes though but i guess there's no way to just keep them.. |
| 15:03.24 | Semlar | i'm preeeeetty sure you can disable the different modules in elvui |
| 15:05.29 | Ayrshire | "A group of Verizon shareholders is criticizing the broadband provider's stance on net neutrality, saying the company's positions on the issue could harm its reputation" <-- What reputation? |
| 15:06.58 | Ayrshire | Rather suspect the intersection of people who know/care about net neutrality and don't already hate Verizon is pretty small. |
| 15:08.00 | Simca | you can replace "Verizon" with "all big name telecom providers" in that sentence and it remains true |
| 15:08.12 | Ayrshire | Yup |
| 15:08.58 | nevcairiel | well, some are more evil than others |
| 15:09.05 | nevcairiel | or at least more openly evil :P |
| 15:09.07 | Semlar | it's a race to the bottom |
| 15:10.29 | Ayrshire | Here they're less competently evil, but still evil. Canada's telcom market is a sort of sandbox where they play at being US-style evil but don't quite get it. |
| 15:10.47 | Semlar | "we're sorry" |
| 15:13.40 | Fisker | That's not Canada that's BP |
| 15:13.47 | Semlar | "sorry" |
| 15:14.22 | Ayrshire | British Petroleum? |
| 15:15.03 | Ayrshire | (Speaking of evil, although that's in a whole other class of evil...) |
| 15:20.12 | Fisker | yes Ayrshire |
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| 15:25.29 | rid_ | hi Fisker |
| 15:25.37 | Fisker | hi rid_ |
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| 16:00.36 | MiRai | Did /fstack just get a lot cooler in 6.1? |
| 16:00.52 | MiRai | it now highlights the frame you're mousing over |
| 16:01.07 | MiRai | everything from tabs to buttons to bars |
| 16:02.58 | [TOM_RUS] | they added region highlights |
| 16:03.13 | MiRai | that's a good way to put it |
| 16:03.57 | MiRai | now if we could get a 'fade map when moving' option added to the right-click of the map rather than having to go in through the interface options every time |
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| 16:14.54 | fewyn | oh god damn... first 665 BOE epic from my salvage yard |
| 16:15.21 | Maldivia | mail it to me |
| 16:15.34 | fewyn | http://www.wowhead.com/item=118816/gorenscale-mesh-cloak |
| 16:15.36 | fewyn | nope |
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| 17:52.59 | VIad | new story made me cry about what happened to Baros :( |
| 18:02.54 | karl_w_w | speedfan is drunk |
| 18:05.25 | karl_w_w | its got my idle fan speed at 45% when I have it set to 25% |
| 18:05.33 | karl_w_w | and it refuses to listen to me |
| 18:06.22 | Neffi | your computer has become sentient karl_w_w. the only responsible thing to do is to destroy it. |
| 18:06.55 | karl_w_w | I'd prefer not to |
| 18:12.21 | karl_w_w | hah, as soon as the gpu does anything the fan speed on it goes straight to 6000 |
| 18:22.19 | foxlit | I wonder what they did to Heroes. |
| 18:22.23 | foxlit | it's so smooth now. |
| 18:30.05 | Fisker | You're smooth foxlit |
| 18:33.29 | karl_w_w | irons foxlit |
| 18:34.10 | Stanzilla | foxlit: on os x? |
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| 18:38.31 | foxlit | on windows. |
| 18:50.09 | foxlit | psst, you should upload more http://www.townlong-yak.com/master-plan/data/ (I now have five, which is awesome!) |
| 18:51.22 | Fisker | I've uploaded half of them :P |
| 18:51.39 | Fisker | got an OOM message on the one I just sent |
| 18:51.51 | Fisker | Because I had been logging in and doing /md save when I saw new missions |
| 18:52.01 | Fisker | But the file seemed fine so |
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| 19:04.15 | Simca | if anyone is having issues not getting garrison campaign quests: http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/garrison-campaign-checker |
| 19:15.49 | zenzelezz | I'm surprised how many shows you can find on Youtube (if sometimes very temporary) |
| 19:16.08 | zenzelezz | like searching for "air crash investigation s14e02" on Google gave at least three results, on youtube |
| 19:22.44 | Ressy | Simca: No.. Had 2 pop up on Monday. :\ |
| 19:23.19 | Fisker | hi Ressy |
| 19:23.24 | Ressy | hi Fisker |
| 19:23.39 | Ressy | campaigns popped up with invasions.. Was handy |
| 19:25.19 | karl_w_w | foxlit, do I need to do anything to make sure all the data is ready to be collected? |
| 19:30.39 | znf | Is there any possible way to increase the range of the "has looted" messages in chat? |
| 19:30.49 | znf | looks at Simca and Semlar |
| 19:31.30 | Simca | not unless you built it into the world's most popular addon so that you had enough users for it to work |
| 19:31.58 | znf | :-( |
| 19:32.02 | znf | well, I only need it in the guild |
| 19:32.24 | znf | I'm relying on that chat loot message to substract dkp from people when they win items |
| 19:32.33 | znf | and it's getting tedious to ask people to stay in range |
| 19:32.50 | Simca | use guild news |
| 19:33.35 | znf | is there an event for that? |
| 19:33.46 | Simca | probably |
| 19:34.10 | Simca | GUILD_NEWS_UPDATE |
| 19:34.17 | Simca | but it only triggers when you call up the news page |
| 19:34.36 | Simca | you should be able to do that from an addon though |
| 19:34.58 | Fisker | so like 200k to buy all heirlooms and upgrade them as it stands |
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| 19:44.55 | znf | Simca, I fail to see an easy implementation :D |
| 19:45.00 | foxlit | karl_w_w: probably not. You could open the garrison report if you like, just to double-check that you actually have missions |
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| 19:57.47 | jleclanche | [20:31:30] <Simca> not unless you built it into the world's most popular addon so that you had enough users for it to work |
| 19:57.51 | jleclanche | sounds like a job for foxlit |
| 19:58.55 | jleclanche | I dont think theres a single person in my guild that doesn't have master plan - and that's a guild where half the braindead players in it refuse to install dbm and recount because they believe addons are the devil |
| 19:59.59 | jleclanche | Simca: /gcc feels completely wrong |
| 20:00.02 | zenzelezz | the other half of the braindead refuse to because they're so awesome they don't need them? |
| 20:00.12 | jleclanche | something like that |
| 20:00.45 | zenzelezz | I was like that with threat meters when I started raiding back in vanilla. Didn't last long |
| 20:00.53 | fewyn | yeah even some of my guildies who hate addons |
| 20:00.56 | fewyn | have master plan |
| 20:01.04 | fewyn | i guess that says something about garrison missions |
| 20:01.07 | fewyn | not sure what though |
| 20:01.23 | jleclanche | I think it says something about zynga |
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| 20:07.04 | Simca | jleclanche: intentional :D |
| 20:07.16 | jleclanche | Simca: tssk |
| 20:08.29 | foxlit | (and it just now occured to me that I should've probably logged your faction along with follower data. Ah well, can probably reconstruct it.) |
| 20:14.37 | zenzelezz | wow; according to Pornhub's 2014 review, they had almost dead-even spread between PC and phones (44% and 45%, respectively) |
| 20:14.49 | fewyn | doesn't surprise me really |
| 20:15.06 | fewyn | how else are teens going to get their porn! |
| 20:15.39 | zenzelezz | hm, didn't consider that |
| 20:16.04 | zenzelezz | in the US the spread was apparently 32% PC, 56% phones |
| 20:16.41 | zenzelezz | sad to see Norway mostly being bundled in "world" |
| 20:17.06 | Thunder_Child | I wonder what tablets fall under. |
| 20:17.17 | zenzelezz | "tablets" |
| 20:17.27 | zenzelezz | it's divided into desktop, phone and tablet |
| 20:17.33 | zenzelezz | http://www.pornhub.com/insights/2014-year-in-review/ if you're curious |
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| 20:25.58 | Thunder_Child | Interesting Article. |
| 20:26.47 | karl_w_w | not sure why I didn't think to try and get into tanaan jungle using aviana's feather before |
| 20:30.47 | xyphoid | invisible walls? |
| 20:35.38 | karl_w_w | we'll see |
| 20:35.48 | karl_w_w | takes at least 2 jumps |
| 20:36.33 | karl_w_w | seems so |
| 20:47.13 | karl_w_w | http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/64942223/family-feud-question-about-cyclists-sparks-backlash-across-australia cyclists really are twats sometimes |
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| 20:48.03 | Eol | Hello. I'm trying to figure out how to hook into an event that occurs when someone clicks on the 'Buyback' or 'Merchant' tabs on a merchant screen, where can I find that event? |
| 20:54.02 | Neffi | blares the "imgburn operation completed" sound through Semlar's speakers nonstop |
| 20:54.11 | Neffi | ~framexml |
| 20:54.11 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml. ExportInterfaceFiles art in the console |
| 20:54.53 | Neffi | Eol: I' |
| 20:54.54 | Neffi | err |
| 20:55.23 | Neffi | Eol: I'm not sure an event fires for that. You can see the code that makes up the merchant frame here: http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/19445/MerchantFrame.xml and here: http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/19445/MerchantFrame.lua |
| 20:55.43 | Neffi | what are you actually trying to do? |
| 20:57.16 | Eol | I'm trying to add another tab to the merchant screen, but I need to basically hide my tab when they click on the other two |
| 20:57.23 | Eol | My tab shows fine, with my own onClick |
| 20:57.32 | Eol | but stuff is still lingering when i click on the other two tabs |
| 20:58.25 | Eol | I looked at the code, and didn't see an event, so I was hoping that documentation was out of date :) |
| 20:58.33 | Eol | Guess I gotta figure out another hack to pull that off |
| 21:04.02 | Neffi | Eol: http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/19445/MerchantFrame.xml#497 |
| 21:04.38 | Neffi | the existing tabs are using `PanelTemplates_SetTab(MerchantFrame, self:GetID());`. click the function name to see where that's defined. you'll have to pick it apart to see how to register a new tab with that |
| 21:04.51 | Neffi | that's *probably* the way you want to do it |
| 21:05.29 | Eol | ok, thanks, i'll explore. |
| 21:05.30 | Neffi | Not sure if that's a taint issue. |
| 21:35.27 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/epic.jpg |
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| 21:36.29 | tz | nice! |
| 21:40.55 | Primer | oh nice |
| 21:44.04 | foxlit | Can't really get that texture layering to work; so long, threat border. |
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| 21:47.10 | doditz | hi all |
| 21:47.21 | Neffi | nods |
| 21:55.12 | fewyn | finally managed to find a gas station that had air pumps... i guess those are going the way of the dodo |
| 21:55.19 | fewyn | and it even cost me money :( |
| 21:56.25 | Semlar | i thought they were mandatory |
| 21:58.04 | fewyn | doesn't look like it |
| 21:58.13 | fewyn | it cost me a dollar to turn it on and then it wasn't even on very long |
| 21:58.20 | fewyn | spent 3 dollars filling up my tires |
| 21:58.50 | Semlar | oO |
| 21:58.58 | Neffi | heh |
| 21:59.08 | Thunder_Child | Depends on where you are. |
| 21:59.13 | Neffi | I don't know of a gas station without an air pump, and about half of 'em are free |
| 21:59.25 | Neffi | the rest cost like a quater |
| 21:59.33 | Thunder_Child | In CA if one has it, it has to be free if you get gas. |
| 21:59.51 | Thunder_Child | Other than that it's $1. |
| 22:00.04 | Semlar | there's a gas station about a block away from me with an air pump but it costs like 75 cents, it certainly doesn't run out before i can inflate all 4 tires |
| 22:00.29 | fewyn | the pump didn't have a gauge on it so i had to bring my digital reader out of the glove box :/ |
| 22:00.44 | fewyn | to check if i filled it up enough |
| 22:01.02 | Semlar | an air pump without a gauge? |
| 22:01.02 | Thunder_Child | Real men eyeball tires. |
| 22:01.20 | Semlar | that seems highly dangerous |
| 22:01.58 | Thunder_Child | Hardly. |
| 22:02.16 | Semlar | well, an overinflated tire could kill you |
| 22:03.03 | Thunder_Child | There are a lot of things that can kill you give ce |
| 22:03.08 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 22:03.21 | Thunder_Child | given certain circumstances. |
| 22:03.44 | Semlar | i've never seen an air pump without a fucking pressure gauge |
| 22:03.53 | Semlar | it might have been broken |
| 22:04.01 | fewyn | it's cold out so i filled it to 33 psi (manual says 35) |
| 22:04.02 | Semlar | but surely they don't make them that way |
| 22:04.08 | fewyn | incase it warms up |
| 22:04.32 | Neffi | one wonders why an air pump would have a pressure gauge specially for fucking. one assumes there's a good reason. |
| 22:04.59 | fewyn | i used to have access to an air compressor with a tire gauge but it was left with family in florida before i moved to texas |
| 22:05.22 | Thunder_Child | Neffi: According to Semlar so you don't 'overfuck'. |
| 22:05.44 | Neffi | My friend's SUV has an air compressor in the trunk. I found that kinda cool. |
| 22:06.05 | fewyn | well SUVs are fucking huge |
| 22:06.09 | fewyn | i drive a nissan versa |
| 22:06.16 | Neffi | yeah, it is a relatively large SUV |
| 22:06.51 | Neffi | but they (used to) do a lot of outdoors-ey stuff which might involve driving very far from the nearest service/gas station, so I guess it made sense |
| 22:06.52 | nebula169 | my car has a slow leak in one of the tires that i've been lazing getting replaced, all the holiday stations around me have free air :D |
| 22:07.45 | Semlar | you should patch that |
| 22:08.24 | Thunder_Child | I have the same thing. But I am not getting it repaired because I need impetus to get a new car. |
| 22:08.38 | Neffi | "tire's got a leak? buy a new car" |
| 22:08.41 | nebula169 | i should also change my oil and brake pads |
| 22:08.42 | Neffi | "remote's dead? new tv" |
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| 22:08.50 | nebula169 | it's so cold though D; |
| 22:09.11 | fewyn | i know that feel |
| 22:09.13 | Thunder_Child | It's a '94 Chevy Lumina that's falling apart. Yes, I need a new car. |
| 22:09.18 | fewyn | which is why i was putting off putting air in my tires |
| 22:09.31 | fewyn | but i'm leaving for ~ohio~ on friday |
| 22:09.34 | fewyn | so it needed done |
| 22:10.30 | Neffi | does ohio really deserve such pretty emphasis? |
| 22:10.35 | fewyn | yes |
| 22:10.39 | fewyn | because i grew up there |
| 22:10.42 | fewyn | and therfor hate it |
| 22:10.45 | Neffi | haha |
| 22:11.00 | nebula169 | the land of scumbag governors |
| 22:11.22 | fewyn | ohio has produced the most astronauts... what must be wrong with the state if they want to leave the planet? |
| 22:12.14 | Neffi | it's just a special brand of boring nothingness that makes them seek the extremes of adventure, maybe |
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| 22:14.19 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.04 | tz | very cool |
| 22:15.14 | fewyn | EPIC |
| 22:15.22 | tz | I wouldn't go THAT FAR |
| 22:15.34 | tz | ok maybe I would |
| 22:15.40 | tz | but it'll cost you |
| 22:16.01 | tz | you gotta work out how to get rid of my migraine >_< |
| 22:16.15 | foxlit | I wonder if someone will be disappointed when they level the follower to epic and figure out that it's only going to counter one of those things. |
| 22:16.52 | tz | maybe desaturate them or something? |
| 22:17.07 | kd3 | "Will learn one of ..." |
| 22:19.34 | Semlar | counters foxlit |
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| 22:24.53 | tlund | foxlit: <3 |
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| 22:49.11 | Stanzilla | foxlit: yeah just make it say "one of" |
| 22:49.13 | Stanzilla | should be clear enough |
| 22:49.35 | Eol | Is this a masterplan addition? or some other addon |
| 22:50.59 | Mr_Rabies | it's a feature he's implementing for master plan, i'm pretty sure |
| 22:51.31 | Eol | Well, if he's the master plan addon writer, he's my fucking hero |
| 22:52.30 | Stanzilla | foxlit is the resident channel hero |
| 22:54.01 | foxlit | next version of master plan it is. |
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| 22:54.17 | zenzelezz | https://twitter.com/LordElfa/status/555467145304621059/photo/1 |
| 22:54.20 | foxlit | slightly more fancy: clicking a follower portrait in MoI actually scrolls the followers list to that follower. |
| 22:54.44 | Semlar | moi? |
| 22:54.52 | Semlar | missions of interest? |
| 22:55.21 | Fisker | So abilities are not completely random but only have a subset of abilities they can roll? |
| 22:55.27 | Eol | Yes |
| 22:55.30 | Eol | It's based on class |
| 22:58.17 | kd3 | and spec |
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| 23:07.19 | Eol | So foxlit, did you have to work with blizzard UI devs to get them to give you more approriate hooks? Or did you find it was easy to mod out-of-the-box? |
| 23:07.51 | Neffi | Eol: Generally people do not work with the WoW devs or get special priveleges, no |
| 23:08.16 | Eol | So it's sort of a "take what you can get" and hope they did good things to make modding easy? |
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| 23:08.37 | Neffi | I guess you can say that, but I don't think it's a fair assessment |
| 23:09.22 | Neffi | Well, the default UI is there and you're free to pick it apart programmatically. But the developers are aware of the modding community, and generally don't make things overly difficult for us |
| 23:15.33 | Eol | Ah |
| 23:16.08 | Eol | Alright, I'm having a hell of a time figuring out if I can "hook" this.. been trying to search the web for stuff, not finding much luck |
| 23:16.11 | Eol | <Button name="MerchantFrameTab1" inherits="CharacterFrameTabButtonTemplate" id="1" text="MERCHANT"> |
| 23:16.29 | Eol | <OnClick>PanelTemplates_SetTab(MerchantFrame, self:GetID());MerchantFrame_Update();</OnClick> |
| 23:16.39 | Eol | Can I do some sort of Hook for the MerchantFrameTab1's OnClick ? |
| 23:18.08 | Neffi | MerchantFrameTab1:HookScript('OnClick', function(self,btn) --[[ hooked ]] end) |
| 23:18.30 | Neffi | your function will be run after the existing OnClick handler. the returns will be discarded. |
| 23:21.16 | Eol | Well, that got me further than before. thanks! |
| 23:25.33 | Neffi | you can consult the code that makes up the default UI here.. |
| 23:25.35 | Neffi | ~framexml |
| 23:25.35 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml. ExportInterfaceFiles art in the console |
| 23:25.51 | Neffi | and you can consult the reference for the API here: http://wowpedia.org/API |
| 23:26.13 | Neffi | note the main menu to thr gith which also houses the Widget API, Lua functions, and other stuff |
| 23:27.03 | Neffi | no purl, framexml is <reply>Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml . ExportInterfaceFiles code in the console. |
| 23:27.15 | Neffi | purl no, framexml is <reply>Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml . ExportInterfaceFiles code in the console. |
| 23:27.15 | purl | okay, Neffi |
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| 23:34.02 | Eol | There any difference between wowprogramming and townlong-yak? Ad revnue going to any preferred parties? |
| 23:34.08 | Eol | seems to have the same data at both |
| 23:34.22 | Fisker | They're both super cool |
| 23:34.46 | Fisker | So no preference :) |
| 23:34.58 | Fisker | Subjectively of course |
| 23:35.13 | Neffi | heh |
| 23:35.43 | Neffi | I prefer townlong-yak because it seems to be more aggressively updated and has more features |
| 23:36.39 | Neffi | plus, I don't think it has any ads, does it? |
| 23:41.03 | Eol | none of the direct pages i've hit seemed to have any. |
| 23:41.30 | Eol | but i also adblock |
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