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| 00:24.04 | Primer | I'm going to recruit one more follower from the inn before I get rid of it. I have a pretty good spread of abilities, but I guess it really boils down to ability combinations. Anyone have any opinion regarding what's the best class for ability combinations? |
| 00:24.16 | Primer | I did a bit of research, and druids look to be pretty good for that. |
| 00:24.49 | Primer | I know one can't pick a class from the inn, but I'll probably end up picking an ability that will hopefully yield the class I want. |
| 00:26.33 | tz | use the "missions of interest" tab on master plan to find out what you're lacking? |
| 00:27.25 | Primer | heh, I have like 30 epic dudes |
| 00:27.49 | mniip | Neffi, I'll leave this chan now then, if any problems arise poke me |
| 00:27.52 | tz | I'm the same, I'm only missing a group damage which I'm leveling now |
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| 00:28.07 | Primer | I'm thinking more about re-roll certificates |
| 00:28.15 | tz | ah] |
| 00:28.16 | Primer | I've had some bad luck with ability combinations |
| 00:28.55 | Primer | like 6 dudes with deadly minions and timed battle |
| 00:29.04 | Primer | Then I reroll one of them, and get the same thing |
| 00:29.12 | tz | :S |
| 00:29.45 | Primer | It seems that group damage is one that everyone seems to lack |
| 00:29.49 | Primer | So I guess I'll pick that |
| 00:30.37 | tz | nods |
| 00:30.49 | tz | I've leveled 2 to epic, and now doing a 3rd |
| 00:30.54 | Primer | ohhh I got 2 blues to choose from |
| 00:31.05 | Primer | one resto sham, another a holy priest |
| 00:31.17 | Primer | hrmm, or is he disc? |
| 00:31.30 | Primer | It doesn't say. His ability is prayer of healing, which both have |
| 00:31.43 | Primer | Herrathos Starstaff |
| 00:31.55 | tz | check wowhead |
| 00:31.58 | tz | it lists classes |
| 00:32.00 | Primer | I did, he's disc |
| 00:32.00 | tz | and specs |
| 00:32.08 | Primer | picks that one |
| 00:33.21 | Primer | actually, the resto sham has 1 more ability |
| 00:33.41 | Primer | a pool of 5, as opposed to the pool of 4 the disc priest has |
| 00:34.19 | Primer | hrmm, but having fewer options might actually be a good thing |
| 00:34.52 | Primer | since the extra ability is minion swarms, and I have 8 dudes that do that (all epic) |
| 00:35.06 | Primer | when it comes to reroll |
| 00:41.21 | tz | mine was disk/holy/ele |
| 00:41.31 | tz | the holy was the only rare, so I couldn't get it for what I needed |
| 00:41.37 | tz | leveling the ele from green >_< |
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| 00:52.38 | Torhal | https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos_games/v2 |
| 01:37.49 | fewyn | oh shit they removed the item limit on timber and iron horde scraps |
| 01:38.38 | Semlar | now instead of being completely empty, my war mill boxes will contain junk! |
| 01:38.51 | fewyn | better than nothing? |
| 01:39.10 | kullervo | hey, junk is worth gold |
| 01:39.21 | Semlar | i don't think you can actually do anything with the scraps |
| 01:39.22 | kullervo | hard capping garrison resources is worth nothing |
| 01:39.31 | kullervo | you can buy transmog items and DISENCHANT them |
| 01:39.50 | Semlar | well in that case blizzard owes me like a thousand scraps |
| 01:41.53 | Semlar | i enjoyed walking up to my war mill box, clicking it and getting a "there is no loot" message |
| 01:42.17 | Semlar | i should just demolish that stupid building |
| 01:42.44 | Semlar | not put anything there, just leave an empty plot |
| 01:44.18 | kullervo | shame the empty plots have foundations |
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| 01:48.02 | Trucidare | I have a large number of frames that use a template with an OnMouseDown script. The OnMouseDown script does a substring and string find on the frame name and passes it to another function. Would it be better to just use <attribute> tags and GetAttribute()? |
| 01:49.19 | Primer | Why not just Frame.foo = 1? |
| 01:49.28 | Primer | Oh, people still use XML, I forgot... |
| 01:50.23 | Trucidare | Would it be better to write out 90~ frames in lua? |
| 01:50.31 | Primer | That was sarcasm, BTW. Anyhow, you can make an addon without any XML. Just do all the frame stuff in lua. |
| 01:51.23 | Primer | It was recommended to me to do all frame stuff in code. I took that to heart and never looked back. |
| 01:51.30 | Primer | Granted, my addons aren't that great :( |
| 01:52.04 | Trucidare | Hmm. I'd have to make a specific defined table to use as frame names in that case |
| 01:54.07 | Primer | Anyhow, given your parameters, I'd say that changing what you already do would be a drop in the bucket as far as it being a performance optimization |
| 02:00.11 | Semlar | 90 frames? |
| 02:01.32 | Semlar | if they inherit the same template it would be a lot easier to generate them with lua |
| 02:03.23 | Trucidare | Nah it's quite a few templates |
| 02:04.18 | Semlar | what does the addon do |
| 02:04.44 | Trucidare | Talking about templates, can't you make a frame inherit another frame, which in turn inherits another frame? |
| 02:05.02 | Trucidare | It's a piano |
| 02:05.15 | Primer | Then isn't it 88 frames? |
| 02:05.20 | Trucidare | Well yeah |
| 02:05.21 | Primer | chuckles |
| 02:05.44 | Semlar | you can inherit a template that inherits another template |
| 02:05.53 | kullervo | http://mfw.dy.fi/i/nEk36.gif |
| 02:06.00 | Primer | Why not one frame? Then detect where the click happens |
| 02:06.10 | Semlar | tries to calm primer down |
| 02:06.21 | Trucidare | I tried making a virtual frame inherit another virtual frame but it's been going wonkey |
| 02:06.31 | Primer | Semlar: SEMLARPLATES, NOW, THANK YOU! |
| 02:06.34 | Semlar | NO |
| 02:06.37 | Semlar | NO PLATES FOR YOU |
| 02:06.53 | Trucidare | One frame? How would one do that? |
| 02:06.57 | Primer | I really hate tall mobs, where the nameplates are in the fucking ceiling |
| 02:07.06 | Semlar | just find the cursor position relative to the frame when it's clicked |
| 02:07.09 | Primer | Trucidare: you know, like an image map |
| 02:07.22 | Trucidare | Yeah, but I don't see how that would be possible |
| 02:07.24 | Semlar | divide the width of the frame by 88 or whatever and figure out what key it's supposed to be over |
| 02:07.33 | Semlar | play that note |
| 02:07.50 | Trucidare | I also have scaling on the piano |
| 02:08.02 | Trucidare | I got textures for each key template and they can be custom colored as well |
| 02:08.02 | Primer | 0,0 to 20,20 is the first key, etc. |
| 02:08.21 | Trucidare | Do people still do image maps nowdays? |
| 02:08.42 | Primer | It's efficient |
| 02:08.43 | Trucidare | I only remember image maps from early HTML editing without JS |
| 02:09.05 | Primer | Just because your computer has 16g of ram doesn't mean you should write programs that use 16g of ram |
| 02:09.09 | Semlar | well, there's a lot of overhead to generate a bunch of frames when you really don't need to |
| 02:09.25 | Primer | Unless you're a java programmer |
| 02:09.33 | Primer | Java people don't know any better |
| 02:09.45 | Trucidare | Hmm. It uses about 300kbs of memory |
| 02:10.05 | Semlar | just sitting there? |
| 02:10.21 | Semlar | how big are the textures |
| 02:11.07 | Semlar | meh i wouldn't worry about optimization |
| 02:11.09 | Trucidare | 16-20kb |
| 02:11.11 | Semlar | just make it work |
| 02:11.32 | Primer | I have a bug report in my addon and I've ignored it |
| 02:11.44 | Trucidare | yeah it works fine, I just want to optimize it now |
| 02:11.58 | Trucidare | I've been pumping out features and not caring about optimization |
| 02:12.21 | Primer | yeah, I did the same thing. I just wanted the concept to work first. Then I optimized a bit later. |
| 02:12.31 | Primer | All in all, it works really well, given what it does. |
| 02:12.46 | Primer | I have the OnUpdate running on every frame too |
| 02:12.51 | Trucidare | oh wow |
| 02:13.03 | Primer | That's configurable in my addon for people with slower computers |
| 02:13.29 | Semlar | events are a crutch |
| 02:17.02 | Trucidare | http://i.imgur.com/TZoB8jv.jpg |
| 02:17.10 | Thunder_Child | kneecaps Semlar. |
| 02:17.12 | Trucidare | doesn't seem to be that much usage |
| 02:22.20 | Primer | Not sure if this is wine or wow, but my cpu meters start to show the wine process spending a lot of time in system usage, and my frame rate goes to shit |
| 02:22.27 | Primer | then after about 5 minutes of this, it calms down |
| 02:23.07 | kullervo | Blizzard tech forums right now: http://mfw.dy.fi/i/1418868793062.jpg |
| 02:23.16 | kd3 | I still don't get why the bnet agent and the wineserver it's using redline a cpu core... always |
| 02:24.20 | Fisker | What are they raging about? |
| 02:25.20 | kullervo | many people can't connect to realms, and according to my research this is due to a major routing hub going down |
| 02:25.23 | kullervo | possibly due to a power outage |
| 02:25.33 | kullervo | so of course it's blizzard's fault |
| 02:25.45 | Fisker | Yes |
| 02:30.15 | pompy | kullervo: the end users dont know that, come on now! |
| 02:30.27 | Primer | Must be EU |
| 02:30.47 | Fisker | The end users do know it's blizzard's fault though pompy |
| 02:30.51 | Fisker | For some reason |
| 02:31.41 | kullervo | pompy: I'm an end user! |
| 02:31.55 | kullervo | I don't even work in IT anymore ._. |
| 02:32.05 | Fisker | Why not? |
| 02:32.46 | kullervo | because I found I didn't actually like it as a job, and also because it was so difficult to find positions with the competition being what it was |
| 02:34.27 | kullervo | now I do security. Sometimes people cry, it's awesome. And I still get to play with computers without being expected to be a guru |
| 02:34.46 | Fisker | Security? |
| 02:37.46 | kullervo | fear is big business |
| 02:39.18 | Fisker | IT security is still IT |
| 02:41.51 | kullervo | it's not IT security though, but everything involves IT |
| 02:51.12 | kd3 | bleh. something's up with my connection or youtube tonight. I can barely get 50KB/s watching vids |
| 02:52.19 | Trucidare | Check the bandwidth on your router |
| 02:52.35 | kd3 | router says I'm the only one on right now |
| 02:53.10 | Trucidare | huh weird. tried logging in to your isp website? usually they have a network status page |
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| 04:21.26 | Simca | how does table equality work in Lua? I want to compare a table filled with old data against one i just created with fresh data, and then set the old one equal to the new one. does that copy the new table? change the old variable to just point to the new table? |
| 04:21.59 | Simca | s/table equality/table assignment with another table/ |
| 04:34.01 | nebula169 | Simca: the latter |
| 04:34.54 | Simca | presumably it works out even if the new table was created within a very limited scope |
| 04:40.09 | nebula169 | sure, can assign it to an upvalue |
| 04:41.39 | Simca | okay, cool, thanks |
| 04:45.14 | tz | I just think of tables like pointers in C |
| 04:45.19 | tz | shallow assignment |
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| 06:41.24 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: i am making control hunter WORK |
| 06:41.28 | jleclanche | at rank 20, but still, IT WORKS |
| 06:41.48 | karl_w_w | I have been making nothing work |
| 06:42.20 | karl_w_w | I've been playing standard hand lock in an attempt to try and counter my atrocious luck with card draw |
| 06:42.23 | karl_w_w | it hasn't worked |
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| 06:42.45 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: try this.: https://mediacru.sh/R/RghrM0NDW0ey.png |
| 06:42.52 | jleclanche | im too lazy to keep playing |
| 06:43.25 | karl_w_w | I played 6 games with it yesterday, and in only 1 of those games did I have either a twilight drake or a mountain giant by turn 4 |
| 06:44.02 | karl_w_w | mulitshot? |
| 06:44.11 | jleclanche | yeah multishot might get dropped |
| 06:44.58 | jleclanche | MS and Houndmaster are the wiggle room really |
| 06:45.23 | jleclanche | bloodfen could get replaced too if you remove houndmaster, but the deck is low on earlygame |
| 06:46.27 | karl_w_w | i would go more towards the standard deck that is being used |
| 06:46.37 | jleclanche | the standard deck is facecancer |
| 06:46.43 | karl_w_w | nah |
| 06:47.23 | karl_w_w | drop bloodfen, houndmaster, and oasis |
| 06:47.35 | karl_w_w | and get double freezing and double secret dude |
| 06:47.39 | karl_w_w | whatever he is called |
| 06:47.51 | jleclanche | nah |
| 06:48.06 | karl_w_w | mad scientist |
| 06:48.14 | karl_w_w | it's like the best card in the game |
| 06:48.20 | Simca | blah |
| 06:48.23 | jleclanche | dropping those is ok, but freezing trap and mad scientist are very much "delay all the things" |
| 06:48.27 | jleclanche | well |
| 06:48.31 | Simca | anyone know how to detect if you have a garrison building bonus active? |
| 06:48.34 | Simca | like level 3 trading post |
| 06:48.48 | jleclanche | Simca: you know the spell it gives somehow |
| 06:48.52 | jleclanche | maybe it's in your spellbook or sth |
| 06:49.06 | Simca | i don't know the spell and can't find it |
| 06:49.17 | jleclanche | Simca: trading pact |
| 06:49.20 | karl_w_w | level 3 trading post has a bonus? |
| 06:49.22 | jleclanche | it's in the spellbook |
| 06:49.24 | jleclanche | yes, 20% rep |
| 06:49.31 | karl_w_w | ah yes |
| 06:49.47 | Simca | ah, hero jleclanche http://www.wowdb.com/spells/170200-trading-pact |
| 06:49.51 | jleclanche | :3 |
| 06:50.03 | jleclanche | Simca: https://mediacru.sh/ALp_c2p_OrRz.png |
| 06:50.20 | Mr_Rabies | 404 |
| 06:50.23 | jleclanche | oops |
| 06:50.24 | jleclanche | https://mediacru.sh/A/ALp_c2p_OrRz.png |
| 06:50.33 | Simca | good that makes it easy |
| 06:50.36 | Simca | super easy |
| 06:50.37 | Simca | tyvm |
| 06:50.39 | Mr_Rabies | worked without ssl, weird |
| 06:50.46 | jleclanche | Mr_Rabies: it was still uploading i guess |
| 06:52.22 | karl_w_w | but yeah mad scientist, not only is it a 2/2 for 2, but it's also a card draw, and it plays that card for no mana |
| 06:52.26 | karl_w_w | the tempo is insane |
| 06:52.39 | jleclanche | Simca: also, that shouldn't say "Item Level x" on wowdb |
| 06:52.43 | jleclanche | should just say Level x |
| 06:53.17 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: I know the tempo advantage, but the secrets in this deck are reactive, not proactive, unlike in secrets mage and face hunter |
| 06:53.37 | Simca | looks like it is something weird with that spell, probably some new flags for garrisons or some shit |
| 06:53.50 | Simca | wowhead seems to think it is mage spell and it requires mages |
| 06:54.34 | jleclanche | REQUIRE ALL THE MAGES |
| 06:54.34 | Simca | while ours wants to put "item level" there and repeats the third benefit over top of the first one |
| 06:55.25 | Simca | i'll add a ticket but I think the number of hits this page will get in the next year is about 3, so idk lol |
| 06:55.33 | Simca | it's a pretty obscure spell |
| 06:55.39 | jleclanche | I'll f5 so fucking much |
| 07:01.32 | jleclanche | the netherstorm agents outside of area 52 hit for 65k, but they shoot for 4k |
| 07:01.34 | jleclanche | and they only shooty |
| 07:01.36 | jleclanche | useless |
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| 07:10.02 | karl_w_w | don't they knock back when they shoot though, jleclanche? |
| 07:10.09 | jleclanche | nop |
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| 11:27.23 | sb | foxlit: could you include inactive followers in "mission of interest" calculations? (maybe special color or something else) |
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| 11:38.49 | Gnarfoz | I think he already did that? |
| 11:39.11 | Gnarfoz | I certainly read something about that in the changelog recently, might not have been specific to the missions of interest |
| 11:40.26 | sb | "Holding ALT while clicking the tab button will include inactive followers in its suggested parties; inactive followers are tinted blue. " |
| 11:40.27 | sb | ah :o |
| 11:41.36 | sb | thats not mission of interest |
| 11:42.06 | nevcairiel | modifiers when clicking the tab buttons? that seems like horrible user experience |
| 11:42.51 | Gnarfoz | his entire aversion to any kind of configuration seems irrational ;') |
| 11:46.52 | nevcairiel | aversions often are |
| 11:50.54 | Gnarfoz | this Piwik LDAP login plugin has an aversion to working correctly |
| 11:51.12 | Gnarfoz | or having an understandable configuration :D |
| 11:51.55 | Gnarfoz | (or rather, they changed some things about how it integrates with Piwik recently... now I suddenly have the entire Active Directory userbase in Piwik's local user database... great) |
| 11:52.05 | nevcairiel | 3 more lfr bosses, need 7 stones still ... hope i get a cluster |
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| 12:04.26 | Gnarfoz | similar here |
| 12:04.41 | Gnarfoz | oh, first mythic raid tonight... wonder how that'll go |
| 12:05.09 | Gnarfoz | if it goes at all... last I checked, there weren't even 20 signups |
| 12:05.36 | nevcairiel | thats the reason we dont do mythic yet even though we could probably try |
| 12:33.17 | Gnarfoz | there's now exactly 20 signups, but only 3 of those are healers :\ |
| 12:33.27 | nevcairiel | more deeps |
| 12:33.41 | Gnarfoz | I think our raid lead has resto as dual spec |
| 12:33.51 | Gnarfoz | but that's about it |
| 12:34.26 | Gnarfoz | perhaps this'll drive the need for more recruits home :p |
| 12:35.06 | sb | ok, its in :| |
| 12:35.12 | sb | with "alt" modify |
| 12:37.36 | sb | foxlit: could you add a checkbox to missions of interest? alt-clicking (without knowing if it worked) isnt THAT intuitive |
| 12:37.46 | sb | (for inactive followers that is) |
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| 13:56.07 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:57.11 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Fisker. I'm determined to be a loving and kind dictator today. |
| 13:57.32 | Fisker | How is that different from any other day? |
| 13:58.02 | haste | getting nexus 6 now Fisker |
| 13:58.19 | Fisker | good haste |
| 13:58.24 | haste | just waiting for my boss to confirm |
| 13:58.37 | Fisker | Now we just need to get Lopeppeppy on the Nexus 6 bandwagon |
| 13:58.43 | Lopeppeppy | Some days I'm a evil and cruel minded wench? |
| 13:58.52 | Fisker | Oh, I didn't notice |
| 13:59.40 | Lopeppeppy | You're too kind. |
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| 15:23.30 | mikma | http://www.amazon.com/Matias-HK101-Halfkeyboard-USB/dp/B00006IZIL/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t/184-7951566-4310560 |
| 15:26.42 | Lopeppeppy | Shit out of luck for the letter N, I see. |
| 15:28.22 | Neffi | it's right there on the B |
| 15:28.48 | Neffi | "List Price:$595.00" what even the fuck |
| 15:29.57 | Fisker | nah it's on b Lopeppeppy |
| 15:31.55 | Lopeppeppy | Oh god, Fisker. That's just too complicated for my little brain. |
| 15:32.14 | Fisker | must..resist...jokes |
| 15:43.06 | mikma | http://deadspin.com/worst-damn-knife-thrower-nearly-kills-his-assistant-1677777366 |
| 15:43.16 | mikma | that dude is so "fuck this, we are done." |
| 15:44.08 | karl_w_w | that keyboard is some kind of joke right? |
| 15:44.59 | nevcairiel | the price certainly is |
| 15:45.18 | Maldivia | karl_w_w: I think the internet can come up with a lot of scenarios for one-handed typing... |
| 15:45.40 | Neffi | -- I get it |
| 15:46.47 | mikma | you pervert |
| 15:47.11 | Neffi | :) |
| 15:52.54 | mikma | http://youtu.be/446v4UFhr0c |
| 15:55.39 | Neffi | oh god that's terrible |
| 15:57.40 | mikma | also, lol, idiots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1McSQSqfeIY |
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| 15:59.15 | Neffi | damn that's dangerous as all hell |
| 16:00.09 | mikma | http://youtu.be/CM88xJX5FsA?t=23s THIS is how you demolish a building |
| 16:00.32 | mikma | and yes, i mean it. |
| 16:04.18 | nevcairiel | are you buying into the nuclear demolition conspiracy now? :p |
| 16:04.50 | mikma | not in nuclear, no. but i've believed in controlled demolition for quite long |
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| 16:08.21 | karl_w_w | wow somebody shook the camera 12 seconds before, super significant |
| 16:11.58 | Gnarfoz | rofl nuclear demolition |
| 16:12.04 | Gnarfoz | hadn't heard that one |
| 16:13.00 | nevcairiel | the theory is that there was a sub-terraining nuclear explosion to create an earthquake that demolishes the building |
| 16:13.20 | nevcairiel | if such a thing would actually work, that would be quite an amazing feat of precise calculation |
| 16:13.32 | karl_w_w | and be literally impossible to cover up |
| 16:14.49 | mikma | nevcairiel: too bad almost nobody can understand. but... 0:25 -> http://kinky.fi/mikma/10900537_10202157146089613_1725427653_n.mp4 |
| 16:21.27 | mikma | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzU26jUnE7k |
| 16:21.30 | mikma | have some Dragonland |
| 16:29.47 | karl_w_w | that's not an explosion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvaaWwRWJ9I |
| 16:32.25 | mikma | that's not an explosion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6BspF9Ie9M |
| 16:34.13 | karl_w_w | nuclear explosions are cheating |
| 16:34.29 | mikma | so are unintended factory explosions xD |
| 16:35.10 | karl_w_w | no they aren't cos I said so :P |
| 16:35.22 | karl_w_w | that factory was reduced to dust |
| 16:35.42 | mikma | so was pretty much anything with the tsar bomba ;) |
| 16:36.36 | mikma | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_o65B1JTiw this is pretty awesome |
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| 16:39.13 | DReynolds | Hi all. Hope someone can help me. Having a go at my first addon (experienced programmer though). trying something simple (I thought), want to use an Item from my bag with the addon but both UseItemByName() and UseContainerItem(bag,slot) are protected. .. Are there any ways to do that given the item name, id, bag slot etc? |
| 16:40.06 | foxlit | sb: foxlit: could you add a checkbox to missions of interest? alt-clicking (without knowing if it worked) isnt THAT intuitive << Working as intended :) |
| 16:40.51 | foxlit | And by that I mean that I don't like how it works with inactive followers, so you get to suffer through terrible UI when you want to use that feature. |
| 16:44.48 | Ayrshire | DReynolds: Take a look at how http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/clamstacker does it? |
| 16:45.25 | Ayrshire | Only works outside of combat though |
| 16:45.46 | DReynolds | Ayrshire: Thanks, I will. .. Id have thought a first addon like applying the appropriate fshing bait ber WoD zone would be easy :P |
| 16:50.15 | foxlit | (the basic problem is that it's a non-trivial performance hit to enumerate groups with inactive followers, so making that the default behaviour makes opening the tab stutter in an annoying fashion) |
| 16:51.26 | Ayrshire | DReynolds: Also, make use of http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/InCombatLockdown |
| 16:51.56 | Ayrshire | So many addons don't, and spew errors on combat. :/ |
| 16:55.21 | DReynolds | brilliant. thanks, i will :) |
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| 19:28.23 | karl_w_w | Fisker, http://www.twitch.tv/savjz |
| 19:28.26 | karl_w_w | mill mage |
| 19:52.25 | karl_w_w | this deck just demolishes warlocks |
| 19:52.28 | karl_w_w | its amazing |
| 19:53.31 | fewyn | what deck? |
| 19:54.54 | karl_w_w | mill mage |
| 20:01.33 | mikma | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hncC_s6XlM |
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| 20:12.29 | karl_w_w | I've never played a deck where I feel just invulnerable to warlocks |
| 20:27.10 | Simca | that guy on stream just lost to a warlock with it |
| 20:27.15 | Simca | though he misplayed pretty badly |
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| 20:46.00 | karl_w_w | lol the misplays |
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| 20:49.44 | Simca | oh sweet god |
| 20:50.01 | Simca | i saw a few places complaining about how LibStatLogic-1.2 was broken so I thought i'd help out and fix it |
| 20:50.14 | Simca | it's 9000 lines in one file, and the organization is a total mess |
| 20:50.44 | Simca | all of the constants are interspersed throughout the functions and data - would take half an hour or more just to separate them all out into a separate file like they should be. |
| 20:52.13 | Dark_Elf | be simplar to just not use it |
| 20:52.22 | Semlar | sounds like an author after my own heart |
| 20:56.07 | Neffi | Semlar secretly wrote libstatlogic under a pseudonym |
| 20:56.25 | Semlar | one file to rule them all |
| 20:56.58 | Semlar | i don't like separating code because then it gets lonely |
| 20:57.10 | Neffi | we are such opposites Semlar |
| 20:57.23 | Semlar | opposites attract neffi |
| 20:57.25 | Neffi | if a file gets over like 150 lines I start to feel like it's a mess and needs to be split up |
| 20:57.44 | Neffi | I have files with less than 30 lines in them |
| 20:57.50 | Semlar | chaos is the natural order of things |
| 20:58.20 | Neffi | I can fight against the natural order, and for a moment, part the chaos |
| 20:58.35 | Neffi | in a way, I am fighting back against god and saying "no" |
| 21:07.35 | Simca | Neffi> I have files with less than 30 lines in them |
| 21:07.44 | Simca | this is terrible at the other extreme |
| 21:07.45 | Simca | lol |
| 21:07.58 | Neffi | but it makes sense |
| 21:08.33 | Neffi | if a particular module only takes 30 lines, I'm not gonna stick the code into a file belonging to another module that takes 200 |
| 21:09.32 | Semlar | i don't have the attention span to write a 9000 line addon |
| 21:09.40 | Simca | if you have 5 30 line modules, you can put them together in a 150 line file |
| 21:09.44 | karl_w_w | i have a file that is 17 lines |
| 21:09.54 | karl_w_w | but in my defense that is the whole addon :P |
| 21:09.55 | Simca | this isn't like food, you can let the peas touch the potatos |
| 21:10.18 | Neffi | NO |
| 21:10.33 | Neffi | The pea module SHALL NEVER touch the potato module |
| 21:12.17 | Semlar | you don't want anything to touch your pea module? |
| 21:12.41 | Simca | I guess this makes me literally hitler then: http://i.imgur.com/4U8NJIM.png |
| 21:13.17 | Fisker | Hail Simca |
| 21:13.23 | Neffi | Semlar: no, you can, for a nominal fee |
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| 21:28.13 | Dagmar | Who lets their peas touch their potatoes in the first place? |
| 21:28.23 | Dagmar | Squishy foods should never be allowed to mingle. |
| 21:28.30 | Dagmar | It's just disgusting. |
| 21:29.32 | Neffi | mashed potatoes can touch mac n cheese. it's ok. they're like friends |
| 21:29.36 | karl_w_w | that's crazy talk Dagmar |
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| 21:29.50 | Neffi | you don't really get why they're friends because they're so different but their bond goes way back and when they're together it's like magic |
| 21:30.12 | Neffi | in fact when you taste the two of them together you're pretty sure they're secretly having an affair |
| 21:30.15 | karl_w_w | eg. ice cream and apple pie are squishy foods |
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| 21:52.04 | Neffi | haha http://i.imgur.com/OXnW2tc.png |
| 21:55.15 | Semlar | Shift Shift Shift |
| 21:57.15 | karl_w_w | that's not the best review Neffi |
| 21:57.32 | karl_w_w | the best one is that guy who bought one and then complained that it was for the left hand |
| 21:58.37 | Neffi | ... |
| 21:58.38 | Semlar | what is the alt function of the shift key supposed to be |
| 21:58.49 | Neffi | the real joke is that anybody bought one |
| 21:58.57 | Neffi | who the fuck pays $500 for less than half a keyboard? |
| 21:59.01 | Dagmar | You hold town shift twice. |
| 21:59.06 | Dagmar | er down |
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| 22:37.42 | Primer | Some other addon now is fucking with chat |
| 22:37.51 | Primer | and now half the time I can't click on anything in chat |
| 22:39.13 | znf | What the hell are you using? |
| 22:40.01 | Primer | For chat I'm using Prat |
| 22:40.12 | Primer | but I've seen other addons mess with chat, and break everything |
| 22:40.42 | znf | Why the hell are you still using Prat? |
| 22:40.46 | znf | BCM or Chatter |
| 22:40.49 | znf | stop being silly |
| 22:40.55 | Primer | Chatter sucked when I tried it |
| 22:41.13 | znf | Prat sucked since beggining |
| 22:41.41 | Primer | shh, sylvanaar might hear you |
| 22:42.08 | Primer | Or whoever the author of Prat is |
| 22:43.34 | znf | I don't care :P |
| 22:43.35 | znf | Prat sucks :D |
| 22:43.43 | Primer | I recall there was something that Chatter did that I just couldn't live with |
| 22:43.51 | Primer | and there was no way to make it NOT do that |
| 22:45.41 | Primer | from the comments on its wowace page, it seems other people have similar complaints |
| 22:46.21 | Mihau_ | I like Prat. |
| 22:46.22 | Primer | Anyhow, I'm sure whatever I'm experiencing is not Prat's fault, as I've seen other addons break chat |
| 22:48.27 | Primer | It seems it's a frame above chat |
| 22:48.39 | Primer | ObjectiveTrackerFrameMover |
| 22:48.48 | Primer | can't click through that |
| 22:50.00 | Primer | yup, moved it, and now I can click on shit in chat again...WTF, GAME! |
| 22:50.54 | Neffi | Chatter still can't do a few basic things that Prat always could |
| 22:53.54 | Primer | Now it's 2 other frames |
| 23:11.53 | Primer | Recently I've been seeing BM monks topping the healing charts in Skada. Are they really healing/absorbing that much? |
| 23:12.31 | Primer | I mean, 32k HPS on a heroic boss, for a total of 10.79M healed/absorbed |
| 23:15.17 | Primer | top heals |
| 23:16.19 | Simca | I've tried Chatter and it was always inferior to Prat. I've never had an issue with Prat that wasn't fixed by a library update |
| 23:17.15 | Simca | it gets blamed a lot for taint but it is rarely the cause; the taint still exists with it off |
| 23:17.40 | Primer | znf is elitist |
| 23:17.52 | Simca | hardly |
| 23:18.01 | Simca | he probably tried it once, didn't like it, and now hates it |
| 23:18.12 | znf | I used it for about 2 years |
| 23:18.23 | znf | then I realized all the modules it's packing are completely useless |
| 23:18.25 | znf | so I switched to chatter |
| 23:18.27 | znf | than BCM |
| 23:18.45 | Simca | every single module can be disabled |
| 23:18.46 | znf | then |
| 23:18.52 | znf | yeah, they can be disabled |
| 23:19.03 | znf | but if I don't use 90% of the advertised functionality, why bother? |
| 23:19.11 | znf | BCM does everything most people need |
| 23:19.18 | karl_w_w | the hype begins http://blog.dota2.com/2015/01/preparing-for-the-international/ |
| 23:21.22 | Primer | Anyhow, the problem I just had was also not Prat's fault. It was some extraneous frame covering chat |
| 23:21.30 | Primer | reloading the UI fixed it |
| 23:22.15 | Primer | Well, I have a feeling it'll happen again. Seems when the Objectives frames grow large, they cover other shit |
| 23:27.20 | znf | I'm curious as what feature Prat has that nobody else has... |
| 23:27.52 | znf | The only one I can think of is Alt tracking, but that is really flawed anyway in how it works |
| 23:32.28 | Primer | Previous session scrollback? |
| 23:32.49 | Primer | For all tabs |
| 23:33.02 | Primer | I don't use anything other than Prat, so I don't know what I have that other addons don't |
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| 23:35.17 | fewyn | i really wish i could post auctions for longer than 48 hours sometimes |
| 23:35.25 | fewyn | s/somethings/all the times |
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