| 00:03.08 | Stanzilla | For the Mac people in here: @textual: Textual 5 will be FREE all day on the 1st of January in all regions. |
| 00:04.35 | tz | iiiiiinteresting |
| 00:04.50 | tz | I've been putting off upgrading from 4, because they wanted me to pay for it |
| 00:05.27 | tz | I'd paid for 4 a couple of weeks beforehand so they could gtfo |
| 00:08.42 | jleclanche | wow, http://explosm.net/rcg/ExclusiveWorkSea |
| 00:08.54 | jleclanche | the randomness is strongly skewed |
| 00:20.09 | Simca | oh, this is a great addon conflict - it only occurs when using my addon (Battle Pet BreedID) + ArkInventory + PetBattleMaster. sigh. |
| 00:40.21 | Torhal | Simca: Probably happens with ArkInventory alone unless he changed how he is handling the battle pet stuff. |
| 00:40.33 | Torhal | Fucking kitchen sink AddOns. |
| 00:41.06 | Neffi | why does your kitchen sink need addons? |
| 00:41.10 | Neffi | moreover, why are they fucking? |
| 00:43.07 | Semlar | your sink doesn't have addons? pleb |
| 00:45.14 | Neffi | pleb referred to any non-patrician. most plebs were skilled laborers, shop owners, land owners, and some of them even became city officials (and emporers) |
| 00:45.23 | Neffi | I'd say plebs probably had fancy sinks |
| 00:45.32 | Neffi | well, not all of them, but some of them! |
| 00:45.47 | Semlar | are you a city official |
| 00:45.50 | Stanzilla | it's also the latest reddit/twitch chat favorite word |
| 00:46.05 | Torhal | I thought that was "rekt" Stanzilla. |
| 00:46.06 | Neffi | seems about right. they get the ass end of 4chan's memes 4 years later |
| 00:46.30 | Neffi | truly high aspirations in those communities |
| 00:47.03 | Torhal | They only aspirate when high? |
| 00:47.23 | Neffi | yes |
| 00:47.40 | Stanzilla | Torhal: no, rekt is old already |
| 00:48.01 | Simca | tell that to Alram |
| 00:48.06 | Neffi | rekt |
| 00:48.15 | Neffi | am i doing it write? |
| 00:48.31 | Simca | no, there's no checkboxes |
| 00:49.05 | Neffi | unicode is beyond my comprehension |
| 00:49.18 | Neffi | by which I mean I'm far too lazy to google for the codepoint |
| 00:49.43 | Simca | [X] works in a pinch |
| 00:50.29 | Neffi | [ ] not rekt [x] rekt [x] tyrannosaurus rekt |
| 00:50.42 | Stanzilla | it's also |
| 00:50.47 | Stanzilla | N E F F I B O Y S |
| 00:50.55 | Neffi | wat |
| 00:52.31 | Stanzilla | random word in caps with a space after each letter+BOYS |
| 00:53.23 | Neffi | that's new |
| 01:04.22 | Torhal | N E F F I R E K T works also, Stanzilla? |
| 01:04.38 | Stanzilla | no |
| 01:04.43 | Stanzilla | has to have boys at the end |
| 01:04.58 | Torhal | So N E F F I R E K T B O Y S works? |
| 01:05.12 | Neffi | I did no such thing |
| 01:05.22 | Torhal | >.> |
| 01:05.28 | Neffi | <_< |
| 01:38.15 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: should be that lib in TSM complaining that DeathNote uses debugprofilestart(); it happened when I tried using DeathNote's "optimize data" feature |
| 01:45.42 | jleclanche | when did this chat become twitch |
| 01:49.42 | Thunder_Child | About 5 years ago. |
| 01:50.28 | Stanzilla | Torhal: yes |
| 01:50.48 | Stanzilla | jleclanche: I'm just teaching them the ways of the retards |
| 01:51.14 | jleclanche | .. why? |
| 02:01.37 | Thunder_Child | And what makes you think they are not already? |
| 02:03.22 | Stanzilla | faith |
| 02:11.56 | Thunder_Child | I lost mine a long time ago. |
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| 02:51.59 | Shirik | You are more than welcome to join my twitch channel |
| 02:52.08 | Shirik | I get lonely sometimes :( |
| 02:52.52 | Thunder_Child | Then perhaps stop streaming? |
| 02:53.16 | Shirik | No need to record the epic plays |
| 02:53.31 | Thunder_Child | They have ways of recording things locally. |
| 02:54.14 | Thunder_Child | There are* |
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| 02:57.26 | Shirik | Too hard |
| 03:00.43 | fewyn | recording locally also takes up hard drive space! |
| 03:12.30 | Semlar | quite a lot of space |
| 03:15.55 | Thunder_Child | You are not supposed to keep everything. |
| 03:19.52 | fewyn | i have emails dating back to 2004 |
| 03:19.57 | fewyn | i don't delete anyyyything |
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| 03:50.24 | Thunder_Child | Emails don't quite take up the same amount of space as a video. |
| 04:13.14 | kullervo | Thunder_Child: http://mfw.dy.fi/i/28592345.gif |
| 04:14.18 | Thunder_Child | kullervo: And yet it seems to have needed to be said. |
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| 04:33.06 | karl_w_w | http://torrentfreak.com/kim-dotcom-stops-xbox-and-playstation-attacks-141226/ |
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| 05:28.23 | karl_w_w | so do americans not know about boxing day? |
| 05:28.38 | karl_w_w | and does that mean you don't get the day after christmas as a public holiday? |
| 05:29.09 | nebula169 | nope, only know about it because of canadians in the guild |
| 05:29.14 | Seerah | I know about Boxing Day :P |
| 05:29.40 | Seerah | but no, it's not a holiday here. Though many people take the day off as part of their holiday |
| 05:30.18 | fewyn | what's a boxing day |
| 05:30.48 | Seerah | it's where they armor themselves with the boxes from their christmas gifts and then go out into the streets and fight |
| 05:30.59 | fewyn | sounds like my type of holiday |
| 05:31.04 | nebula169 | that would be awesome |
| 05:31.54 | Seerah | it's just the day after Christmas (12-26) that's a public holiday in Britain, etc. |
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| 05:46.02 | Kowh | Boxing day also used to be our equivalent for black friday, but we've imported that too now. |
| 05:46.20 | fewyn | but that's the day after xmas |
| 05:46.23 | fewyn | how would that work |
| 05:46.29 | fewyn | unless you want to buy a year earlier |
| 05:46.32 | Kowh | Think clearance rather than gifts |
| 05:46.48 | fewyn | lots of sales here in the states after xmas |
| 05:47.00 | fewyn | mostly xmas decor tho |
| 05:47.15 | fewyn | our main xmas tree in the living room needs replacing :/ |
| 05:47.24 | fewyn | a huge strand has gone out |
| 05:47.32 | Kowh | Nominally it's to clear out excess inventory after christmas via deep discounts (doorcrashers, etc.) |
| 05:47.38 | fewyn | i tried replacing bulbs and fuses but doesn't work :( |
| 05:47.40 | Kowh | But these days it's just yet another sale. |
| 05:48.09 | Kowh | A lot of xmas lights are serial, meaning a break anywhere ruins the entire strand. |
| 05:48.24 | fewyn | yeah i know which is why it's le suck |
| 05:48.42 | fewyn | originally it was only a strand that was on one side of the tree |
| 05:48.47 | fewyn | so we faced it on the back |
| 05:48.55 | fewyn | but xmas eve one on the front went out |
| 05:48.56 | Kowh | Hard to figure out short of testing, but if you find a parallel brand, stock up. :D |
| 05:49.24 | Kowh | (They have a habit of becoming unavailable for replacements) |
| 05:49.40 | fewyn | the tree is a prelit one |
| 05:50.25 | fewyn | replacement bulbs are easy to find (i have plenty) |
| 05:50.45 | Kowh | I wasn't aware they even came that way. Makes sense I suppose. |
| 05:51.04 | Kowh | Not that I've looked into artificial ones much. |
| 05:51.13 | fewyn | real trees are just so much hassle |
| 05:51.28 | fewyn | you can buy scent sticks to make the fake trees smell like real pine/fir/whatever |
| 05:51.32 | Kowh | This is why I let someone else in the family handle it. :D |
| 05:51.52 | Ivnedar | our living room looked like halloween the morning after we got a real tree one year, the last one we ever got |
| 05:51.57 | Kowh | But yeah, needles *everywhere*. |
| 05:52.02 | fewyn | yep |
| 05:52.08 | Ivnedar | apparently a family of spiders lived in it and hated being disturbed |
| 05:52.09 | fewyn | i have a 4' tree in my office |
| 05:52.13 | Kowh | For weeks if not months afterwards. :D |
| 05:52.17 | fewyn | i rather like it |
| 05:52.23 | fewyn | also the cat seems to love to play with it too |
| 05:54.51 | Kowh | If I got a tree for my place, the cat would promptly be on the top of it. |
| 05:55.14 | fewyn | our kitty is a pirate kitty (she only has one eye) |
| 05:55.23 | fewyn | she doesn't do a lot of climbing for obvious reasons |
| 05:56.14 | Mr_Rabies | does she have an eyepatch like DD |
| 05:56.33 | fewyn | sadly no |
| 05:56.39 | Mr_Rabies | http://elysium-gaming.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Metal-Gear-Solid-V-DD-3-1024x576.jpg |
| 05:57.08 | Mr_Rabies | send that to your roommates daily, they will cave |
| 05:57.16 | Mr_Rabies | also blast NUCLEAAAAAR |
| 05:57.21 | fewyn | i don't think they will =p |
| 05:57.47 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrkzIN2eP0U |
| 05:57.57 | Mr_Rabies | blast this and also show them that picture |
| 05:57.57 | Mr_Rabies | daily |
| 05:58.09 | Kowh | Mine climbs everything unless I guard it with the motion activated canned air. |
| 05:59.06 | Mr_Rabies | hmm |
| 05:59.09 | Mr_Rabies | that's a good point |
| 05:59.16 | Mr_Rabies | i wonder how spiders feel about BITTERGENT |
| 05:59.30 | Mr_Rabies | i've got a minor spiderling invasion in one of my light fixtures |
| 05:59.44 | Mr_Rabies | i wonder if BITTERGENT will cause them to panic and get onto the actual poison i sprayed up there |
| 06:00.43 | Kowh | I like having spiders around, they eat the more annoying bugs. |
| 06:01.01 | Kowh | But around here the spiders don't bite, nor have venom that can really do much to us. |
| 06:01.10 | Mr_Rabies | well, i'm not sure what kind these are |
| 06:01.14 | Kowh | If I was in .au, I'd burn all the things. |
| 06:01.26 | Mr_Rabies | i should probably send a couple spiderlings in to a uni and have them check them out |
| 06:01.47 | Mr_Rabies | because we get both brown recluses and black widows up here |
| 06:01.49 | Mr_Rabies | er |
| 06:01.50 | Mr_Rabies | down here |
| 06:01.52 | Kowh | A photo and an internet search would probably suffice. |
| 06:01.52 | Mr_Rabies | around here |
| 06:01.58 | Kowh | Ah, ick. |
| 06:02.36 | Kowh | Brown recluses technically come up this far, but I've never seen one. |
| 06:03.11 | Kowh | Black widows are even more remote, but the range supposedly keeps moving north as things warm up. |
| 06:03.41 | Kowh | Until then, at least our long cold winters are good for something. :D |
| 06:06.50 | Mr_Rabies | problem is with an internet search |
| 06:07.00 | Mr_Rabies | EVERYTHING'S A BROWN RECLUSE |
| 06:07.05 | Mr_Rabies | also, spiderlings |
| 06:07.11 | Mr_Rabies | not full-grown, yet |
| 06:07.53 | Kowh | Usually there's a helpful identification site on some university page somewhere. |
| 06:08.33 | Kowh | Ah, BugGuide does spiders too: http://bugguide.net/node/view/15740 |
| 06:10.46 | Seerah | http://www.spiders.us/species/loxosceles-reclusa/ |
| 06:10.59 | Seerah | we get brown recluse in our house a lot |
| 06:11.48 | Seerah | inside a light, though, doesn't sound like that great of a brown recluse spot |
| 06:13.43 | Mr_Rabies | one jerk spiderling bit me |
| 06:14.23 | Seerah | :( |
| 06:14.36 | Mr_Rabies | put yesterday's towel on my shoulders to dry off since i forgot to get the clean ones before taking a shower, felt like a fireant bite for about an hour |
| 06:14.39 | Mr_Rabies | no swelling |
| 06:14.50 | fewyn | you arent dead yet so thats a good sign |
| 06:14.52 | Mr_Rabies | thankfully it was the shoulder and not anything..worse |
| 06:15.09 | Mr_Rabies | eh, spiderlings are generally even worse at living than regular spiders so |
| 06:15.32 | Mr_Rabies | they're almost 100% blind and there's basically no room for venom |
| 06:15.39 | Mr_Rabies | it didn't even swell up or anything |
| 06:15.49 | fewyn | electric blankets are awesome fyi |
| 06:15.51 | Mr_Rabies | that's what started the war |
| 06:16.06 | Mr_Rabies | i was hoping that they'd just die from not having any food |
| 06:16.26 | Mr_Rabies | we had an invasion of millipedes earlier in the year, literally hundreds of thousands of them on the outside of the house |
| 06:16.39 | Mr_Rabies | so the spider population had a bit of a boon as a result i think |
| 06:20.18 | Mr_Rabies | living in the woods kinda sucks |
| 06:20.19 | Mr_Rabies | :< |
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| 07:22.44 | karl_w_w | the redback spider is the biggest menace in western australia |
| 07:23.05 | karl_w_w | they aren't particularly dangerous, there's just a hell of a lot of them and they like gardens |
| 07:23.15 | karl_w_w | they're in the black widow family |
| 07:23.49 | karl_w_w | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redback_spider#Bites_to_humans "no deaths have been reported since the introduction of antivenom in 1956" |
| 07:25.51 | karl_w_w | their web is ingenious, they run a strand down to the floor from a flat surface, and when something walks into the strand they stick to it and it detaches from the ground so they are suspended in the air or stuck to the top |
| 07:26.11 | Stanzilla | I hate spiders |
| 07:26.31 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQABY9H1h1Y |
| 07:26.52 | karl_w_w | i think they're great |
| 07:27.07 | karl_w_w | they stay in 1 place unlike pretty much everything they eat |
| 07:28.04 | karl_w_w | i don't like orb-weavers though, they build huge webs really quickly that are pretty much always in the way |
| 07:38.25 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 07:38.35 | Mr_Rabies | i'm a massive weeb now i think |
| 07:38.48 | Mr_Rabies | i just made a mod for space engineers to add Fire Bomber tracks to the sound block |
| 07:38.56 | Mr_Rabies | now to figure out how to make a speaker pod launcher |
| 07:40.31 | Semlar | i have orb weavers all over my front door that come out at night |
| 07:40.45 | Mr_Rabies | orb weavers own unless they get in the walking path |
| 07:41.03 | Semlar | yeah it's annoying to walk through a web |
| 07:41.19 | Mr_Rabies | until i can do this in space engineers i won't be happy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBgOi4Vyra8 |
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| 08:44.13 | d[karl]b | http://steamcommunity.com/market/search?q=merry+christmas&descriptions=1#p3_default_desc |
| 08:44.16 | d[karl]b | pure sadness |
| 08:45.25 | karl_w_w | http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/570/Unusual%20Antipode%20Couriers?filter=merry%20christmas holy crap |
| 09:09.36 | Mr_Rabies | i don't get it |
| 09:09.36 | Mr_Rabies | D: |
| 09:12.12 | Torhal | Teh monies. |
| 09:13.43 | karl_w_w | people got cosmetics for christmas and they're selling them |
| 09:13.56 | karl_w_w | with the gifted text on it because you can't remove it |
| 09:20.33 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 09:21.29 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 09:24.20 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 09:24.26 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 09:26.26 | Fisker | hey |
| 09:27.01 | haste | where's my nexus 6 Fisker ? |
| 09:27.09 | Fisker | in my pants haste |
| 09:27.17 | haste | I've had time to break and repair my nexus 5 now... |
| 09:30.41 | Fisker | why not just buy a nexus 6? |
| 09:31.53 | haste | none have it in stock |
| 09:32.40 | karl_w_w | have they fixed the problems with lollipop on nexus 7s yet? |
| 09:39.43 | Mr_Rabies | my friend rooted his LG G2 recently and, oh boy what a nightmare |
| 09:40.32 | Mr_Rabies | ended up flashing the firmware with a leaked firmware flashing tool from the LG factory, i think :v |
| 09:47.38 | Mr_Rabies | on the other hand, rooting the fireTV was quick and painless |
| 09:50.31 | Trela | <Alexia> Please group all these items into as few shipments as possible, please. <Amazon> OKAY! *Seven shipments for one order.* <Alexia> Seriously? |
| 09:51.30 | nevcairiel | you did give it some leeway by saying "as possible" :P |
| 09:54.28 | karl_w_w | inb4 they were all bought from different stores :P |
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| 10:30.40 | Torhal | Trela: I'm guessing they all came from different fulfillment centers. |
| 10:30.59 | Torhal | I love when I get shipments from Chattanooga. "I ordered that YESTERDAY. Holy shit, it's here!" |
| 10:34.29 | nevcairiel | i still think its funny that one day shipment amazes you guys so much |
| 10:34.38 | nevcairiel | for us its just how online shopping works |
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| 10:36.05 | Torhal | We have a slightly larger land mass to traverse. |
| 10:36.30 | Torhal | Chattanooga just happens to be a couple hours north of me, so yeah - one day shipping. |
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| 10:51.11 | karl_w_w | i got a mission for halaa tokens |
| 10:51.17 | karl_w_w | wrong expac blizz |
| 10:51.36 | karl_w_w | if only the things were boa |
| 10:52.06 | nebula169 | karl_w_w: yea, i got two then went and bought the war talbuks i never got in tbc |
| 10:54.18 | nebula169 | dark talbuks* never farmed the pvp tokens |
| 10:56.38 | nevcairiel | i thought it was kinda handy to get the tokens there, since farming them is near impossible, even was near impossible when BC was current |
| 11:00.19 | nebula169 | pretty much |
| 11:24.34 | Torhal | nebula169: I was 40 tokens short for the War Talbuk. That mission saved my ass. |
| 11:24.51 | Torhal | After 7 years, FINALLY got the sonofabitch. |
| 12:24.32 | Ivnedar | I'm probably going to die of shock of geddon ever drops his binding |
| 12:24.51 | Ivnedar | It's a shame there's no stat for geddon kills, would be interesting to see how high it is |
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| 12:33.52 | nevcairiel | i have geddon |
| 12:33.55 | nevcairiel | i lack garr :p |
| 12:34.41 | Ivnedar | I'd see the same person doing it at the same time as me every week for months, same situation, lacking garr, geddon dropping 50% or something |
| 12:34.49 | Ivnedar | we grouped up a few times, didn't drop either |
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| 13:38.16 | karl_w_w | these silicone case fan mounts are almost complete impossible to use |
| 13:41.02 | karl_w_w | they should supply some kind of tool that grips them and pushes the fan down |
| 13:47.10 | karl_w_w | fuck it, I'm using the screws |
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| 14:39.41 | VIad | it's epic when your 655 maxed follower is in the mine farming for ore :D |
| 14:39.56 | VIad | wish he could work on spare time when he is not on missions ;P |
| 14:40.06 | nevcairiel | he can, if you manage him like that |
| 14:40.32 | VIad | Lantresor of the Blade, honorable warrior stuck in the mine farming like a slave - mu ha ha! I shit on your legacy! |
| 14:41.20 | VIad | meh I am and it's annoying to always go by architect to remove people from their jobs to go through missions that I dont need, just maybe so that new missions with 650+ loot can appear, then rehire on the buildings once back |
| 14:42.21 | nevcairiel | you dont need to do missions to get new missions |
| 14:42.30 | nevcairiel | you seem to have some misconceptions on how this whole thing works |
| 14:42.54 | VIad | yes! |
| 14:42.59 | VIad | isnt there a max? |
| 14:43.20 | nevcairiel | there is only one mission that yields that level of gear, the highmaul raid |
| 14:43.25 | nevcairiel | and you'll get one every 2 weeks |
| 14:43.29 | VIad | or can I just ignore it and make an addon to go "EPIC REWARD MISSION AVAILABLE" when I need to wander over to the mission board. |
| 14:43.40 | VIad | hmm... |
| 14:43.53 | VIad | could ignore all the xp missions then |
| 14:44.02 | VIad | all are epic and maxed basically :p |
| 14:44.02 | karl_w_w | are all sata cables the same? |
| 14:44.17 | VIad | I think so karl_w_w |
| 14:44.29 | VIad | had to buy one once, and it fit SATA1-3 |
| 14:44.34 | VIad | that or it has legacy support |
| 14:44.46 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: sata3 has a slightly different plug, but its compatible all the same |
| 14:47.44 | VIad | if I xmog an item with a BOE cosmetic item, send the cosmetic to my bank, will I keep my xmog? |
| 14:48.10 | nevcairiel | i dont think you can xmog unbound items |
| 14:48.19 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 14:48.23 | nevcairiel | you mean send the boe away |
| 14:48.25 | VIad | yeah |
| 14:48.27 | nevcairiel | i think you'll llose it then |
| 14:48.36 | VIad | hmm, got to try... but I think so too |
| 14:48.42 | karl_w_w | my ssd is on the bottom of the case, so i have to use a sata cable with a 90 degree plug, the only one of which i have is like 10 years old |
| 14:49.08 | nevcairiel | every mainboard i bought comes with two angled plugs and two normals |
| 14:49.11 | karl_w_w | cabling in a small case is a nightmare. never again |
| 14:49.18 | nevcairiel | or thereabouts |
| 14:49.52 | VIad | tbh cases have improved greatfold since 2000 |
| 14:50.06 | karl_w_w | greatfold indeed |
| 14:50.19 | VIad | greatfold |
| 14:51.12 | VIad | I think the 3d effect on the 3ds is really neat technologically, but practically you need to sit perfectly still with your head :P |
| 14:51.19 | foxlit | oh hey, running DroodFocus alongside MasterPlan results in non-clickable mission buttons. |
| 14:51.20 | VIad | other than that very neat effect and all |
| 14:51.53 | foxlit | The good news is that I can actually reproduce that. |
| 14:52.10 | VIad | btw nice going on avoiding dropdown taint foxlit |
| 14:52.13 | VIad | ;) |
| 14:52.23 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:52.41 | foxlit | dropdown taint is a myth. |
| 14:53.33 | VIad | I still wonder why my spellbook is tainted. it happens eventually. but I have no spellbook modifying addons :p |
| 14:53.47 | VIad | usually happens after I setup pitbull/grid or something |
| 14:53.58 | karl_w_w | all in doing here is cleaning out the dust, swapping my psu and swapping my case fans. I've been here 4 hours now |
| 14:54.44 | karl_w_w | it takes less time to build a pc from scratch |
| 14:55.13 | VIad | buy yourself https://www.komplett.no/komplett-gamer-xtreme-i70-black-titan/10935 it's just 3000$ |
| 14:55.53 | nevcairiel | a lot of bad choices for a gaming system |
| 14:56.16 | VIad | they obviously do these deals to sell old inventory |
| 14:56.17 | VIad | :p |
| 14:58.48 | Ressy | I'm looking at building a new system after 6 years.. My motherboard's failing. |
| 14:59.44 | karl_w_w | i love it when that happens |
| 14:59.55 | karl_w_w | perfect justification for a new build |
| 14:59.55 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:00.06 | nevcairiel | very easily |
| 15:00.25 | VIad | but how like? |
| 15:00.30 | nevcairiel | it talks to the map and quest log frame, so anything that touches any areas even remotely related to that can break it |
| 15:00.48 | VIad | ugh... |
| 15:00.55 | VIad | I thought you had to alter the button itself directly to taint it |
| 15:01.02 | VIad | why does it care if the world map is altered? |
| 15:01.17 | VIad | when it doesn't even alter the buttons based on variables from the world map and such :/ |
| 15:01.18 | nevcairiel | it doesnt "care", thats just how taint works, it spreads |
| 15:01.30 | VIad | I see blizz call code in a way that ignores taint |
| 15:01.46 | VIad | i.e. if they must check the world frame, do it but do it so in case of taint it doesn't get tainted itself :/ |
| 15:02.03 | nevcairiel | why would they care about taint, their stuff doesnt taint anything :P |
| 15:02.47 | VIad | if I could I'd specifically pay for the interface team :p |
| 15:03.02 | VIad | wish we could assign 10% of the money and to what department it goes to |
| 15:03.17 | VIad | i.e. show support to the UI team and maybe get in some favors along the way |
| 15:03.37 | nevcairiel | because your $1 a month already grants favors :P |
| 15:03.37 | karl_w_w | no you don't |
| 15:04.07 | karl_w_w | because while you might know where money should go, the unwashed masses certainly don't |
| 15:04.31 | VIad | we got a UI dev hanging around here sometimes |
| 15:04.39 | VIad | maybe we can donate directly to him sometime... |
| 15:04.40 | Ressy | then we just gotta bribe'em |
| 15:04.59 | foxlit | you know, if someone you just wrote a reproducible bug report |
| 15:05.06 | foxlit | s/someone/some of/ |
| 15:05.19 | foxlit | they'd be that much closer to fixing it. |
| 15:05.44 | foxlit | (besides, clearly all money everywhere should go to resurrecting Ray D. Tear!) |
| 15:05.48 | karl_w_w | typical foxlit, always thinking about reproduction |
| 15:05.58 | VIad | my taint log just blames what ever addon is enabled :( |
| 15:06.10 | VIad | I disable it then next in line is blamed |
| 15:06.13 | foxlit | reproducibility != reproduction. |
| 15:06.20 | VIad | worst is when the taint happens sometimes, not always :p |
| 15:08.35 | karl_w_w | had to unmount my ssd just so i could get the power cable to plug in |
| 15:08.41 | karl_w_w | woe is me |
| 15:09.19 | Ressy | I'm looking at almost everything brand new.. Bought a new video card 3 months ago, new hds (after the old ones failed) 4 months ago.. |
| 15:09.32 | VIad | foxlit: one way addons might "break" things is like the map API, that you must change map to properly read map data, i.e. Astrolabe |
| 15:09.44 | VIad | issue it causes is the log/map jumping and changing when you fly around crossing zones :P |
| 15:10.14 | VIad | I often find myself being forced back to a specific map view, so I need to renavigate myself back to where I was. |
| 15:10.21 | Ressy | Whats really annoying, is the ssd adapter, doesn't fit my cage.. So I'm getting a new case as well so I don't need to deal with damned adapters. |
| 15:10.25 | VIad | it's a shame but old API is old, needs rewrite sometimes :/ |
| 15:10.55 | nevcairiel | foxlit: tainting the quest tracker is so trivial, but we have no place to actually post those things without them vanishing in nothingness |
| 15:11.09 | nevcairiel | they dont give us any indication that they care, so we gave up on reporting years ago :P |
| 15:12.50 | foxlit | nevcairiel: It would be helpful to *me* if you did a proper writeup of what you observed. |
| 15:13.04 | karl_w_w | I'll tell you what case i used for a new build last month ressy, it was a dream to work with |
| 15:13.14 | VIad | they did fix one bug I wrote that cairenn sent in for me, fixed it not in mop but in wod by changing the whole support system ingame :D |
| 15:13.30 | VIad | before you could hijack using hosts edit and feed the game alternative data when it requested the knowledge base |
| 15:13.31 | foxlit | Even if it doesn't get fixed, I'd at least know what gardening tools not to step on in the future. |
| 15:14.02 | Ressy | I've escalated a few UI related bugs internally.. >.> |
| 15:14.04 | VIad | shame the incentive to fix things needs to be something exploitable, otherwise small fry get ignored ofc. |
| 15:14.31 | VIad | (i.e. watch frame taint) |
| 15:14.32 | nevcairiel | foxlit: basically, don't call QuestMapFrame_UpdateAll or any functions which do call it |
| 15:14.43 | Ressy | karl_w_w: I'm looking at http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ |
| 15:14.46 | Ressy | bah |
| 15:14.51 | Ressy | http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/LvYtHx |
| 15:15.03 | VIad | you americans have your nice system to find parts |
| 15:15.03 | foxlit | I'm reasonably sure I don't do that, and I still get reports that I break it, without being able to reproduce anything. |
| 15:15.06 | VIad | we don't got that in norway :< |
| 15:15.09 | Ressy | < Canadian |
| 15:15.17 | VIad | i.e. american |
| 15:15.17 | Ressy | less decent options than the US |
| 15:15.24 | nevcairiel | foxlit: there is probably other ways, it taints very easily |
| 15:15.31 | VIad | isn't canada just a large state? :p |
| 15:15.35 | Ressy | lmao |
| 15:15.36 | nevcairiel | also, don't leak a "_" variable, it reads one from global space |
| 15:16.00 | VIad | do /dump _ |
| 15:16.04 | VIad | after playing for a while |
| 15:16.09 | VIad | should be nil :3 |
| 15:16.51 | Ressy | VIad, you can really see the difference in prices US vs Canada. |
| 15:17.07 | Ressy | especially when you have to figure in shipping, taxes.. etc |
| 15:17.08 | karl_w_w | coolermaster n500 is the one i used |
| 15:17.09 | foxlit | nevcairiel: and yet I haven't been able to hit one while trying to do so :( |
| 15:17.30 | VIad | Ressy: same applies to me if I buy from amazon/ebay |
| 15:17.36 | karl_w_w | great cable management and drive bays |
| 15:17.40 | VIad | my cheap build gonna get expensive :D |
| 15:17.42 | Ressy | Canada, you don't order computer parts from either. |
| 15:17.55 | Ressy | guaranteed to be less elsewhere. |
| 15:17.55 | foxlit | but yes, it's written in a beautiful way that somewhat presupposes that there's nothing tainted in the world. |
| 15:19.07 | VIad | nevcairiel: curious, I got my profile set to my own thing but the crazy arrow position doesn't care :( |
| 15:19.14 | nevcairiel | foxlit: the tracker itself is neatly self-contained, and it doesnt call out to tainted UI, however, other parts of the UI call in to it, which breaks it then :p |
| 15:19.14 | VIad | isnt crazy arrow in gathermate2 part of the profile? |
| 15:19.27 | nevcairiel | gm2 doesnt have any arrow |
| 15:19.39 | VIad | I mean TomTom |
| 15:19.41 | VIad | sorry :p |
| 15:19.50 | nevcairiel | then why would i care |
| 15:19.55 | foxlit | so what calls it? |
| 15:20.04 | nevcairiel | like i said, the quest map |
| 15:20.10 | foxlit | how? |
| 15:20.21 | VIad | ah it was Cladhaire ofc |
| 15:20.23 | nevcairiel | plus the funky bug where it references a _ global variable |
| 15:27.56 | VIad | off topic, but masterpieces deserve to be seen: /cleartarget /targetexact Lake Frog /use item:44986 /run if UnitBuff("player",(GetSpellInfo(62574)))and UnitAura("target",(GetSpellInfo(62537)))then DoEmote"kiss"end |
| 15:28.45 | nevcairiel | foxlit: QuestMapFrame_UpdateAll -> QuestObjectiveTracker_UpdatePOIs -> taint everywhere! |
| 15:29.17 | VIad | (must add "not" to last part but other than that works:D) |
| 15:30.00 | karl_w_w | do yourself a favour ressy, replace any pre-installed case fans before you start |
| 15:30.08 | nevcairiel | really any of the *ObjectiveTracker_* functions should be avoided, they spread taint like wildfire |
| 15:30.10 | foxlit | nevcairiel: the assumption being that whoever calls QuestMapFrame_UpdateAll is already tainted? |
| 15:30.17 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 15:30.32 | nevcairiel | which happens easily when you do anything with the map |
| 15:31.00 | foxlit | Maybe I should do something with the map. |
| 15:31.31 | VIad | wish I could modify a bit on the default rings like the quest items ring :p |
| 15:31.39 | VIad | i.e. add my own thing on it when I am on a certain quest and such |
| 15:31.58 | nevcairiel | some addons set WorldMapFrame.blockWorldMapUpdate, which is designed to prevent the OnEvent of WMF to trigger when you temporarily switch the map, however if you do that, you taint the quest log :D |
| 15:32.45 | foxlit | unregistering the event seems simpler. |
| 15:49.43 | foxlit | okay, this is ridiculous. |
| 15:54.30 | foxlit | local f, f2 = CreateFrame("Frame") f2 = CreateFrame("Frame", nil, f) f:SetFrameLevel(255) f2:SetFrameLevel(256) f:SetFrameLevel(255) << MasterPlan missions UI is now non-interactable. |
| 15:55.22 | foxlit | (because the nested buttons get auto-placed below the scrollframe, which absorbs mouse events) |
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| 16:03.55 | karl_w_w | the nightmare is over |
| 16:13.28 | jleclanche | anyone bored who wants to write a small hearthstone irc bot? |
| 16:16.03 | foxlit | is this "How to get DMCA'ed 101?" |
| 16:16.24 | jleclanche | huh? |
| 16:17.09 | foxlit | or am I making a mistake by parsing "small hearthstone irc bot" as "an irc bot that lets you play hearthstone with people over irc"? |
| 16:28.44 | mikma | http://youtu.be/pD_yQZ4iNjY |
| 16:43.55 | karl_w_w | plugin container was using 10gb of ram :P |
| 16:44.04 | karl_w_w | that's twitch for ya |
| 16:47.07 | karl_w_w | hey VIad, Black is playing techies and it's your fault http://www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit |
| 16:49.20 | VIad | :O |
| 16:49.29 | VIad | any garrison masters? |
| 16:49.51 | VIad | if I replace a building. like I have a rank 3 inn, I make a new building. can I place a rank3 inn back to that location later on? |
| 16:53.37 | VIad | practical example. want to get rid of myrank 3 barracks with something else - but wanted to swap it out - but maybe get it back later :P |
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| 17:07.17 | karl_w_w | Fisker, http://www.twitch.tv/amazhs malorne from a webspinner |
| 17:07.57 | Fisker | yeah |
| 17:07.58 | Fisker | been there done it |
| 17:13.02 | VIad | :D http://ss.bool.no/capture_1419873179.png |
| 17:14.00 | VIad | dat name http://ss.bool.no/capture_1419873236.png |
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| 17:31.17 | karl_w_w | oh my god a hexchat update |
| 17:31.23 | karl_w_w | it's been so long :P |
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| 17:49.26 | Shirik | someone please halp |
| 17:49.52 | Shirik | Buying second monitor. Identical model (23") is $139. Next model up (24") is $129. |
| 17:50.01 | Shirik | Can't decide if same size is important or bigger/cheaper is important |
| 17:51.21 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt buy such a cheap screen, so dont look at me :p |
| 17:51.54 | nevcairiel | but two identical ones gives nice symmetry |
| 17:52.26 | Shirik | actually I really like the monitor |
| 17:52.36 | Shirik | my current one was supposed to be a temporary purchase but I really liked it |
| 17:58.23 | Shirik | did amazon increase the price of one-day shipping? |
| 17:58.27 | Shirik | I thought it was always $3.99 |
| 18:00.59 | kullervo | Shirik: just plain old 60hz 1080p? Boring! |
| 18:02.28 | pompy | Shirik: depends on the product iirc |
| 18:03.27 | pompy | One-Day Shipping Price varies by item size and weight - as low as $2.99 per item |
