| 00:00.45 | kullervo | ah, alliance quest |
| 00:00.50 | kullervo | thought the area sounded unfamiliar |
| 00:01.30 | foxlit | It's the garrison campaign mission phasing I think -- it was okay when I went back to hand in velen's memory stick earlier. |
| 00:02.02 | foxlit | moving a bit further down causes it to fire NEW_WMO_CHUNK constantly while moving around, but at least that's not an "UPDATE ALL THE THINGS!" event. |
| 00:17.20 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/Battle.net_Error_2014-12-27_02-17-15.png |
| 00:17.28 | kullervo | that's new |
| 00:17.37 | kullervo | didn't like it when I updated the drivers |
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| 00:43.11 | fewyn | loving the update to master plan that adds shortcuts to filling out the mission on the list |
| 00:44.47 | kullervo | yeah that |
| 00:45.09 | kullervo | 's very handy, will save a few minutes in the morning |
| 00:45.38 | Neffi | Semlar: make me a firefox extension :( |
| 00:46.01 | Neffi | i got it setup perfectly, except there's just nothing as good as Chrome's "Checker Plus" |
| 00:46.11 | fewyn | why are you suing firefox |
| 00:46.31 | Neffi | because I've been having performance issues with Chrome for a while, and decided to finally chuck it out the window |
| 00:46.49 | fewyn | you're having the complete opposite situation i have |
| 00:47.16 | Neffi | Chrome's performance is fantastic, except unusable on a few sites I regular |
| 00:47.40 | Neffi | dunno what it is, but some sites (like imgur) stall the browser and I get like one rendered frame every few sec trying to scroll/use |
| 00:47.47 | fewyn | weird |
| 00:48.40 | Neffi | anyway, firefox is quite nice with a few extensions installed. except I miss my gmail checker |
| 00:57.12 | Shadowed | foxlit I wouldn't round the time for your indicators btw |
| 00:57.28 | foxlit | and what would you do instead? |
| 00:57.34 | Shadowed | you show "2 h: 1.222 XP" and you have enough space to just show something like "1m17h: 1,222 XP" |
| 00:57.37 | Shadowed | or even just show 1.2k XP |
| 00:57.49 | Shadowed | 1h17m* |
| 00:58.02 | Shadowed | knowing it's 1h17m vs 2h is more useful than 1,222 XP vs 1.2k for example |
| 00:58.47 | foxlit | the closest default time format is going to be "2 hrs 32 mins" |
| 00:59.06 | foxlit | which is somewhat wider than the "2" saved by replacing 1,222 with 1,2k. |
| 00:59.43 | Neffi | hour-resolution is far too course to be useful and I think it's the single biggest "fuck you" in the default UI, tbh |
| 00:59.47 | Neffi | coarse* |
| 01:00.45 | foxlit | (and heaven help you if you're running deDE) |
| 01:01.10 | Shadowed | ugh does Blizzard not have something shorter |
| 01:01.44 | Shadowed | I would just use a localed string and get people to translate it tbh |
| 01:01.45 | Semlar | 2.5h 2:32 |
| 01:02.06 | foxlit | fractional hours are awesome, Semlar. |
| 01:02.15 | Shadowed | yea fractional hours are bad |
| 01:02.18 | Shadowed | although tbh |
| 01:02.20 | Shadowed | you could also just do |
| 01:02.21 | tz | 180m |
| 01:02.26 | Shadowed | "1h17m: 1,2222 XP" |
| 01:02.30 | Shadowed | and add another few pixels |
| 01:02.33 | Shadowed | the entire thing is hugeee anyway |
| 01:02.34 | Semlar | how are fractional hours bad, you say half past 2 don't you |
| 01:02.41 | Shadowed | you say half past two, you don't say |
| 01:02.42 | Shirik | I have to use fractional hours at work constantly :( |
| 01:02.45 | Shadowed | 1/4th past 2 |
| 01:02.49 | Semlar | yes you do? |
| 01:02.49 | Shadowed | or 1/5th past 2 |
| 01:02.50 | Shirik | yes you do? |
| 01:02.57 | Shadowed | er that one was a bad example |
| 01:03.01 | Semlar | :| |
| 01:03.08 | Shadowed | fractional works fine in speech when you use the specific ones that make sense |
| 01:03.10 | foxlit | I could line up a screenshot with evangelion numbers |
| 01:03.16 | foxlit | 1.11h, 2.22h, 3.33h, etc. |
| 01:03.19 | tz | just do # of mins, imo |
| 01:03.30 | Shadowed | mins looks bad with long missions |
| 01:03.35 | Shadowed | the 24 hour stone ones for example is 1440m |
| 01:03.51 | Shirik | at work we have to do hour hours accurate to a tenth of an hour |
| 01:04.04 | tz | shrugs |
| 01:04.14 | Shirik | which also means that any interruption is guaranteed to cost 6 minutes |
| 01:04.16 | tz | I'm just happy there's XP/hr now |
| 01:05.02 | foxlit | fractional hours work okay, as long as you round to something like quarters. |
| 01:05.20 | Shadowed | at that point just do 1h10m and call it a day thought~ |
| 01:05.25 | Shadowed | you have so much room on the stpid mission UI |
| 01:05.30 | Shadowed | because they made it 5000000000000 pixels |
| 01:05.56 | Neffi | well that just seems excessive |
| 01:06.27 | foxlit | Shadowed: 1h7m? |
| 01:06.42 | foxlit | 1h07m? |
| 01:07.09 | jaxdahl | 67m |
| 01:07.14 | Semlar | any reason you don't just do 1:07 |
| 01:07.30 | foxlit | I interpret that as 1 minute, 7 seconds, so no. |
| 01:07.44 | Semlar | since missions aren't that short, i don't see that as a problem |
| 01:07.52 | jaxdahl | put up an analog countdown clock |
| 01:08.11 | Semlar | do you interpret digital clocks with the hours as minutes too? |
| 01:08.51 | jaxdahl | typically digital clocks tell you the time of the day, not a countdown so context is easy |
| 01:08.58 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 01:09.26 | jaxdahl | 00:01:07 |
| 01:09.33 | foxlit | ^ also that. |
| 01:09.39 | Neffi | <foxlit> 1h07m? <- 1h 7m |
| 01:09.42 | Semlar | even if you were counting down into the minutes and seconds for some reason, context should be quite obvious |
| 01:09.44 | foxlit | good digital clocks typically have three segments. |
| 01:10.08 | Shadowed | foxlit 1h7m imo but 1h07m if you want to be stylistic |
| 01:10.12 | Semlar | you can switch between 1:07 into 30m or 30s or whatever |
| 01:10.33 | Semlar | which is how most countdown timers work in the game |
| 01:10.51 | foxlit | the game has countdown timers? |
| 01:10.56 | Semlar | cooldown count? |
| 01:10.58 | Constie | Is putting the minutes in a tooltip an option? |
| 01:11.12 | foxlit | Constie: it's already there. |
| 01:11.12 | jaxdahl | /dbm pull 10 |
| 01:11.36 | Constie | Well then I guess you're done! |
| 01:11.47 | foxlit | So if you're starting at that 2h and wondering whether it'll be finished in 1 hour and 10 minutes, you could hover over it and check. |
| 01:12.12 | Thunder_Child | But people are lazy. |
| 01:12.21 | foxlit | Which isn't really optimal if you've got a large number of those 2h things. |
| 01:12.25 | Thunder_Child | And entitled. |
| 01:13.57 | foxlit | but meh, I guess the point is that I should just add "%dh %dm" as a localizable string. |
| 01:14.06 | jaxdahl | interesting, MP is smart enough to tell me that i have to restart wow after this update i did |
| 01:14.16 | jaxdahl | toc change? |
| 01:14.30 | Shadowed | pretty much foxlit! |
| 01:14.43 | foxlit | jaxdahl: if you haven't updated for a while, yeah. |
| 01:14.46 | Shadowed | you can probably rip a pretranslated one from BW if you wanted |
| 01:15.21 | jaxdahl | any plans to mess with auto-assignation/removal of followers from buildings? |
| 01:16.36 | foxlit | http://www.wowace.com/addons/workwork/ |
| 01:16.59 | foxlit | ( http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/master-plan/tickets/138-automate-follower-building-assignment/ ) |
| 01:17.38 | jaxdahl | reasoning makes sense |
| 01:22.00 | fewyn | oh hey |
| 01:22.04 | fewyn | thanks for the link :D |
| 01:22.08 | fewyn | i had been thinking about that one |
| 01:29.39 | jaxdahl | foxlit what does the checkbox next to search oh the mission assignment screen do? |
| 01:29.46 | jaxdahl | s/oh/on/ |
| 01:30.13 | Thunder_Child | Sorting thing I think. |
| 01:37.51 | jaxdahl | hm, this bug also happens with the blizzard garrison missions UI: mouseover a follower trait on the left side of the mission assignment screen then scroll down so nothing is being moused over -- the tooltip will stay there until you mouseover something again |
| 01:40.35 | zenzelezz | that one I experience... damn annoying |
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| 04:03.17 | fewyn | seriously if you haven't watched Broadchurch i suggest you do |
| 04:03.29 | fewyn | season 2 starts in a couple weeks |
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| 04:13.29 | zenzelezz | you know... I'm quite happy spending time with my friend Captain Morgan; but I'm surprised at all the crazy ideas he has about coding every timne |
| 04:13.30 | zenzelezz | *time |
| 04:14.16 | kd3 | heh, a full disclosure posting on a keurig 2.0 vuln: http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2014/Dec/37 |
| 04:19.51 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:20.08 | Shirik | also, seriously? They try to validate your k cup? |
| 04:20.38 | Arrowmaster | it has a sensor that checks for special ink on the lid |
| 04:21.11 | Arrowmaster | my mom ordered one of these for their new keurig at work but hasnt got it yet https://www.gourmet-coffee.com/Keurig-DRM-Freedom-Clip.html |
| 04:22.35 | nebula169 | and they're free? nice |
| 04:24.00 | fewyn | that's pretty hillarious |
| 04:25.34 | Arrowmaster | cutting the top off of one of the official cups and taping it into the machine works too |
| 04:25.52 | fewyn | yeah |
| 04:25.55 | Arrowmaster | but hey a free clip on thing that the coworkers wont knock off is better right |
| 04:25.56 | fewyn | but this is more "elegant" |
| 04:50.41 | Shirik | so i don't understand |
| 04:50.50 | Shirik | why don't these generic companies just make their lids compatible? |
| 04:51.11 | kd3 | because they don't want to pay the keurig toll |
| 04:51.21 | kd3 | or keurig's not licensing |
| 04:51.31 | Shirik | how are you forcing people to not use ink? |
| 04:51.37 | Shirik | I guess it could be patented |
| 04:52.18 | Neffi | I think they're using legal threats, whether or not the threats actually hold up |
| 04:52.35 | Neffi | because most companies aren't going to risk defending themselves in court against a major company |
| 04:53.05 | Neffi | see: NFL threatening people for using words like "bowl" (I'm not even joking, this is real) |
| 04:59.28 | Semlar | neffibowl |
| 05:00.50 | Neffi | what does a neffibowl even hold? |
| 05:01.42 | Neffi | oh, so the source of my absolutely terrible chrome performance seems to have been adblock. who'd've thunk |
| 05:01.49 | Neffi | I didn't think it was *that* harsh |
| 05:09.19 | Arrowmaster | part of why i still use firefox, chrome is lacking some low end apis that make content blocking work better |
| 05:10.20 | Neffi | yeah, it's still not possible to block some things, but meh |
| 05:10.53 | Arrowmaster | tried to run chrome portable with adblock from a usb drive years ago, so slow |
| 05:11.15 | Neffi | right now I have waterfox and chrome dev installed, and a host of blocking extensions on both. i'll let my subconscious decide which I prefer better, now that they're both setup as I like |
| 05:12.01 | Neffi | I found a new adblocker, uBlock, which seems to be legitimately faster/lighter than all the others. performance issues are gone. RAM usage is cut in half, even with a ton of filters enabled |
| 05:12.28 | Neffi | https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock |
| 05:17.00 | Trela | Want for Firefox. |
| 05:17.21 | Semlar | but firefox already has a functional adblock |
| 05:17.47 | Trela | Not exactly fast though. |
| 05:17.47 | Neffi | Trela: probably not relevant. abp for firefox is an entirely different codebase than the chromium one, afaik |
| 05:18.21 | Neffi | all the popular chromium ones seem to be using the same codebase, which is slow |
| 05:18.47 | Semlar | neffiblock |
| 05:19.00 | Neffi | blocks Semlar up with Legos |
| 05:19.20 | Trela | https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/issues/27#issuecomment-67308172 |
| 05:20.19 | Semlar | "there isn't one good adblocker on firefox"? |
| 05:20.48 | Trela | AdBlock Plus is okay. |
| 05:20.57 | Semlar | hard to see how you'd improve it |
| 05:22.28 | Trela | Apparently the benchmark from two days ago does. https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Firefox-version:-benchmarking-memory-footprint-of-the-early-preview |
| 05:25.09 | Semlar | so it uses less memory? that's the only benchmark? |
| 05:26.02 | Trela | Considering it is a development preview of a not even alpha port that shows a good promise for them to move forward with it. |
| 05:28.03 | Neffi | I'm not sure about the firefox version, but the chrome version seems to be substantial |
| 05:28.45 | Trela | Considering ABP can bring Firefox to its knees even a small improvement would be nice. |
| 05:28.52 | Semlar | adblock does nothing but speed up load times so i'm impressed that it's slowing things down for you |
| 05:29.10 | Neffi | it's not just using lower memory in the addon process, but it's also contributing considerably less memory to the page's process |
| 05:29.18 | Neffi | and less cpu usage on both counts |
| 05:30.36 | Neffi | https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/%C2%B5Block-vs.-ABP:-efficiency-compared |
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| 06:22.22 | karl_w_w | "I'm just gonna say, using Gandhi and MLK as examples of 'death threats shouldn't be taken seriously' is probably counterproductive." |
| 06:22.23 | karl_w_w | hah |
| 06:36.09 | Xuerian | Neffi: ff ublock? He's doing FSM's work |
| 07:05.36 | Neffi | fsm = flying spaghetti monster? |
| 07:06.47 | Xuerian | of course |
| 07:24.19 | Shirik | finite state machine |
| 07:25.58 | Neffi | either one |
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| 08:53.13 | karl_w_w | i finally found an advantage to windows 8 |
| 08:53.23 | karl_w_w | you can have shazam on your pc |
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| 09:18.18 | Xuerian | shazam? o_O |
| 09:25.26 | karl_w_w | yes, shazam |
| 09:25.56 | karl_w_w | it listens to songs and tells you what they are |
| 09:26.28 | Xuerian | Oh, right |
| 09:26.37 | Dagmar | "Ok Google. What song is this?" |
| 09:47.07 | jnwhiteh | wah my wow subscription ran out |
| 09:56.15 | mikma | :( |
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| 10:58.15 | harl | [wuff wuff!] |
| 11:01.13 | mikma | [ok ok] |
| 11:25.42 | mikma | funkeh`: didn't you make BasicChatMods |
| 11:45.39 | Ssateneth | Hi. I use an addon that hasnt been updated since 2012 called _devpad (its a lua code scratchpad, much like Hack). Was wondering if someone would be able to look into a bug with it where if there are overlapping _devpad windows and you click somewhere on the overlap, the click will register on the window furthest behind instead of the one on top |
| 11:45.55 | Ssateneth | author is awol |
| 11:51.11 | mikma | ssateneth: may we convert you to use ie. wowlua, or tinypad? :) |
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| 12:16.51 | VIad | I have a mount macro that has /cancelform to remove druid forms - but I wish it wouldn't affect shadowform ;p |
| 12:17.24 | VIad | would be nice with a class condition :) |
| 12:23.01 | karl_w_w | have a mount macro for each character like normal people |
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| 12:24.01 | Industrial | Is there a place where I can see recent setups / whole UI configurations people have made with screenshots etc? |
| 12:24.12 | Industrial | (why not ask for the best case scenario :P) |
| 12:24.59 | Neffi | Industrial: I think mmo-champion's UI forum still has an active UI screenshot thread |
| 12:25.07 | Neffi | everywhere else seems dead w.r.t. that stuff |
| 12:25.11 | Industrial | k |
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| 12:27.01 | Industrial | http://i.imgur.com/lItv1lI.jpg |
| 12:27.06 | Industrial | mine is a bit basic |
| 12:27.10 | Industrial | (also party dance!) |
| 12:27.21 | Industrial | dance party* |
| 12:29.30 | Funkeh` | mikma, yes |
| 12:29.51 | Ssateneth | your monitor is a square? |
| 12:30.52 | mikma | funkeh`: ever heard any issues that people get messages about certain players going offline when BCM is enabled? :P eventho they are not in the friendlist |
| 12:31.12 | Industrial | 1280x1024 |
| 12:31.17 | Industrial | so yes almost |
| 12:31.21 | mikma | wait, what |
| 12:31.30 | mikma | wake up to the 201(4/5) industrial |
| 12:31.37 | Funkeh` | I think I've heard that from people without it |
| 12:31.43 | Industrial | hey it still works man :P |
| 12:32.19 | mikma | funkeh`: okidoki |
| 12:32.40 | Funkeh` | mikma, I believe those people going offfline are from a guild you *used* to be in |
| 12:32.56 | mikma | funkeh`: i'm not 100% sure is it because of bcm or not, but it keeps on happening on my main char all the time. same two folks |
| 12:33.26 | mikma | also, from different servers |
| 12:34.02 | Funkeh` | if it's a connected realm there may be people from another server in that ex guild I guess |
| 12:34.18 | mikma | ghosts of the past... that's horrible |
| 12:35.11 | Funkeh` | I don't think I've personally witnessed it, but my guildie has, and we were both part of a pre-mythic merger |
| 12:35.27 | mikma | i took a screenshot! |
| 12:35.32 | Funkeh` | she said the players always seem to be from that old guild |
| 12:36.44 | mikma | funny fact... both of the persons are "visible" in this screenshot: http://pbrd.co/1HP1pwp |
| 12:36.53 | mikma | the one going offline and the one in the last line :D |
| 12:37.02 | mikma | i see both of them going offline every now and then |
| 12:38.11 | Funkeh` | at they in the same guild? |
| 12:38.36 | Funkeh` | are* |
| 12:42.26 | mikma | i don't know |
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| 13:01.55 | VIad | lol fucking kidding me? the firecats before majordomo are in a perfect alternation keeping me stunned forever |
| 13:02.27 | VIad | fuck blizzards new change to spell resists - gray mobs basically always hit with annoying spells now and like here I can't die and are permastunned |
| 13:03.20 | VIad | getting tired of your shit blizz |
| 13:04.09 | Neffi | you mean you can't just faceroll content anymore? how dare they |
| 13:04.23 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:04.45 | Constie | Well you were supposed to still be able to just faceroll old raids. |
| 13:04.55 | VIad | it's super easy |
| 13:05.10 | VIad | but things like some 80 mob applying a 5 sec stun and chaining it with his friends |
| 13:05.17 | VIad | not exactly a challenge but a real annoyance |
| 13:05.44 | Neffi | meh, the promise was that the squish would not make old raids relatively harder. they didnt say anything about the mechanic changes |
| 13:05.49 | VIad | they miss with most basic attacks (physical) but spells, why can't they miss like before? |
| 13:06.03 | Neffi | because you can't dodge/parry spells? |
| 13:06.09 | VIad | can resist |
| 13:06.17 | VIad | but not since 6.X :p |
| 13:06.23 | Neffi | aye |
| 13:06.24 | VIad | even gray mobs can apply spells to you |
| 13:06.36 | VIad | "here have this shitty slow spell mate" |
| 13:06.38 | Neffi | i dont think it's such a big deal |
| 13:06.47 | VIad | well I had to altf4 the game |
| 13:06.52 | VIad | to get out of a stunlock rotation :P |
| 13:07.02 | Neffi | I dislike wow's model of exponential growth trivializing lower content |
| 13:08.06 | VIad | well they can't kill me at all |
| 13:08.12 | VIad | at least make them chain stun you and kill you :p |
| 13:08.36 | Neffi | invest in stun resist gear or something |
| 13:08.36 | VIad | this time when I logged on they at least timed it on top of each other so I could get out and kill them with a spell ;p |
| 13:09.01 | Neffi | you can already hands down solo the stuff like it's nothing. maybe you should have to put SOME thought and dedication into it |
| 13:09.39 | VIad | that's fine |
| 13:09.47 | Neffi | what class are you btw? |
| 13:09.48 | VIad | but fix the bullshit scenarios |
| 13:09.51 | VIad | druid |
| 13:09.56 | Neffi | feral? |
| 13:09.59 | VIad | guardian |
| 13:10.29 | Neffi | havent kept up to date. they must go down pretty easily at 100 though |
| 13:10.29 | VIad | its my alt now though |
| 13:10.33 | VIad | my DK picked up to be my main atm |
| 13:10.35 | Neffi | they didnt take long to down at 90 as feral |
| 13:11.10 | Neffi | if you can get enough stun resist to get a gcd window every few sec, should make it much easier |
| 13:11.17 | VIad | stun resist? :p |
| 13:11.26 | Neffi | you can get stun resist meta gem |
| 13:11.38 | Neffi | well, -15% duration I think it is |
| 13:11.56 | Neffi | and there might be some obscure enchant with the effect too, I can't recall |
| 13:12.03 | VIad | yes ofc |
| 13:12.39 | VIad | to kill one mob pack in firelands that might sometimes end up perfectly stunlocking you :3 fyi after I came back they deaded easy because they stunned at the same time, not one by one like last aggro :p |
| 13:12.55 | VIad | kind of weird since they are supposed to start with a stun, since I am alone should stun me at once - something they didnt do |
| 13:13.23 | Neffi | oh you're talking about the mop raid? |
| 13:13.27 | Neffi | or level 60 mc? |
| 13:13.29 | VIad | firelands is cataclysm |
| 13:13.36 | VIad | gray mobs |
| 13:13.40 | Neffi | ah, right |
| 13:14.08 | Neffi | ah, I never did cata raids |
| 13:14.28 | Neffi | not sure what I was thinking about in MC |
| 13:14.43 | VIad | I am sure trash in MC can apply debuffs easily too though :p |
| 13:14.58 | VIad | blizz did something with how low level mobs and spells work on higher level players |
| 13:15.18 | VIad | not sure why... |
| 13:16.13 | Neffi | probably a byproduct of the tweaks they didn't account for or didn't particular care about, since "meh" |
| 13:18.28 | VIad | meh |
| 13:18.36 | VIad | I loved druids around TBC time and onward |
| 13:18.41 | VIad | I had great fun being a tank |
| 13:18.48 | VIad | and having my talents so I can go cat, bear, e.g. |
| 13:19.00 | VIad | really fun when you mastered swapping formsq and such |
| 13:19.10 | VIad | but they chipped away more and more and cata BOM pick one, bear OR cat |
| 13:19.18 | VIad | and since it's been a bit boring for me |
| 13:19.26 | VIad | hence why DK is probably new main :p |
| 13:19.52 | VIad | DK can grip mobs to him, silence, interrupt, aoe stun/pull, so much fun |
| 13:20.08 | VIad | as bear I just soak all the day |
| 13:20.16 | VIad | use pulverize for 15% dmg reduction |
| 13:20.19 | VIad | take those hits! |
| 13:20.32 | VIad | use that 3 min CD to not die from that spell |
| 13:20.44 | VIad | oh he keeps casting spells? too bad go play DK with spell shield that has 1 min CD :P |
| 13:20.59 | VIad | druid need to run around, DK grip mobs to me pew pew |
| 13:21.14 | VIad | worst case bloodboil spreads diseases 30 yards away aggroing for me, very nice |
| 13:21.48 | VIad | worst part with druid is, oh, you want to CR? go out of form , get hit like you are a priest healer |
| 13:22.22 | VIad | atm my fav tanks go like dk>monk>paladin>warrior>druid |
| 13:22.31 | VIad | weird considering I mained druid since tbc :p |
| 13:22.42 | VIad | finally swapped by having a DK alt in mop and now its basically main |
| 13:23.05 | VIad | it's just a damn shame to feel like that towards my old main |
| 13:23.41 | VIad | what tank do you play Neffi? |
| 13:29.01 | Neffi | huh? oh, i didn't tank much |
| 13:29.14 | Neffi | i mostly liked to pvp |
| 13:29.33 | Neffi | i leveled a few tanks, and was thinking about maining one and raiding, but then I quite |
| 13:29.39 | Neffi | -e* |
| 13:34.19 | VIad | tanks are the best :) |
| 13:34.40 | karl_w_w | if by best you mean worst |
| 13:35.22 | VIad | explan karl_w_w |
| 13:36.04 | VIad | (place "i" somewhere in there) |
| 13:47.09 | karl_w_w | tanks are the worst |
| 13:53.19 | VIad | karl_w_w: you are the worst |
| 13:55.04 | VIad | enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEXkzm5x8y0 |
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| 14:50.47 | karl_w_w | the editing is great VIad |
| 15:24.50 | mikma | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8-_KbnLBdc |
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| 15:41.05 | karl_w_w | http://i.4cdn.org/b/1419691981556.jpg who even |
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| 15:52.44 | Industrial | Fisker: give ornekka some sugar. |
| 15:52.58 | Fisker | :? |
| 15:53.07 | Fisker | I'm space trucksing |
| 15:53.13 | Fisker | people hunted me down :( |
| 15:54.35 | Shirik | Fisker: is this you? https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B54YGFZI2RM4djFWbmNHYlB5bmc/view?usp=sharing |
| 15:56.43 | Fisker | what is? |
| 15:56.56 | Shirik | your space truck getting hunted down |
| 15:57.45 | Xuerian | That looks more like someone blapping dumb haulers |
| 15:58.04 | Xuerian | or trying and failing to do so o_O |
| 15:58.21 | Shirik | I really have no idea what it was. There were 50 billion concord ships there and then all these wrecks with the same name |
| 15:59.36 | Fisker | That'll teach you to be within sensor range |
| 16:00.11 | Fisker | did they change anything I have green colored ships now Xuerian |
| 16:00.20 | Xuerian | what |
| 16:00.21 | karl_w_w | well that was unexpected http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFwt3sXjCN4 |
| 16:00.47 | Fisker | this guy gonna get interdicted |
| 16:01.59 | Shirik | woah lmao |
| 16:05.40 | mikma | karl_w_w: points to him for trying |
| 16:06.17 | mikma | altho, FAKE AND GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY |
| 16:07.08 | karl_w_w | depends on what you call fake |
| 16:07.22 | karl_w_w | it was live on tv and the hosts didnt know about it |
| 16:07.48 | mikma | then, let's have a look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olbNwSVutT8 |
| 16:08.55 | karl_w_w | sad |
| 16:10.25 | Shirik | it depends on what you call "live" and "on tv" and "hosts" and "didn't know" |
| 16:11.06 | Shirik | in other news WHY IS DC PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SO TERRIBLE |
| 16:11.14 | mikma | then, let's have a look at this: http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/41/41171cb227897968ca9a9a05752ccf799b96d9f251ee839f28868a93578a6439.jpg |
| 16:12.06 | mikma | shirik: also, just because it's you, here: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/421/502/b8c.jpg |
| 16:14.32 | karl_w_w | here you go mikma, this one is real and much funnier http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBTFRCvESCU |
| 16:15.06 | mikma | karl_w_w: yeah. those two are legendary |
| 16:15.47 | mikma | ok, those four |
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| 16:17.53 | Shirik | lmao karl_w_w |
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| 16:36.48 | mikma | how can you detect your own pet in wow? |
| 16:37.16 | karl_w_w | depends how much of it you want to detect |
| 16:37.41 | Shirik | which pet? |
| 16:37.43 | Shirik | like hunter pet? |
| 16:37.45 | Shirik | or companion? |
| 16:37.46 | mikma | yeah |
| 16:37.50 | mikma | huntard pet for example |
| 16:37.54 | Shirik | UnitExists("pet")? |
| 16:38.04 | mikma | ... doh, thanks shirik |
| 16:38.45 | Shirik | Did they ever make "playerpet" work? |
| 16:39.07 | Shirik | There was a time it didn't and I was so angry because it meant I had to write a bunch of special case code, rather than just appending "pet" to everything |
| 16:39.24 | mikma | apparently because it returned my pet's name -> UnitName("playerpet") |
| 16:39.32 | Shirik | yay |
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| 17:25.24 | karl_w_w | smart guy https://twitter.com/WAPoliceTraffic/status/548263216556429313 |
| 17:25.53 | Thunder_Child | But his glocoma! |
| 17:26.04 | Thunder_Child | glaucoma* |
| 17:26.08 | mikma | oooooooh, ooooooooooooooooh! |
| 17:30.06 | Neffi | how much special-case code could you possibly need? |
| 17:30.29 | Neffi | my unit frames have a single if to test for player's pet and emit "pet" instead |
| 17:30.56 | Neffi | and I'm not actually sure that's needed. I added it because I didn't want to bother testing what the event would give me |
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| 17:37.41 | fewyn | why can't assassination use fist weapons :( |
| 17:38.13 | fewyn | http://www.wowhead.com/item=113591&bonus=0 dropped |
| 17:39.40 | Thunder_Child | Because you touch yourself at night.; |
| 17:39.46 | Thunder_Child | -; |
| 17:41.37 | pompy | creeper |
| 17:46.40 | Torhal | adds "pet" to the end of "Neffi" in lieu of testing. |
| 17:48.37 | pompy | :O |
| 17:49.13 | Neffi | UnitName'Neffipet' --> nil, nil |
| 17:49.44 | karl_w_w | pets Neffi |
| 17:49.53 | nevcairiel | i think you can even use it with names if you use Neffi-pet |
| 17:50.24 | Neffi | karl_w_w-pets Torhal |
| 17:51.36 | mikma | nevcairiel: aye, works :D |
| 17:51.53 | mikma | UnitName("Bald-pet") -> "Furry", nil |
| 17:52.16 | Neffi | your name is Bald? |
| 17:52.49 | mikma | well it's in finnish but it means bald, yes |
| 18:06.54 | karl_w_w | it's a weird name whatever language it's in :P |
| 18:29.55 | mikma | karl_w_w: the hunter is called 'Bald' (Kalju) because he is. his pet is called 'Furry' (Karvainen) because wolfs are. and Companion is called 'Porclaine' (Posliini, literally means "shaved") because it's a Magic Lamp :D |
| 18:31.52 | Neffi | that implies that it's a lamp that once had hair |
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| 18:32.35 | mikma | it might have had, because it's a magic lap |
| 18:33.01 | mikma | well no. because you know, language differences. |
| 18:37.28 | fewyn | mmm poptarts |
| 18:48.40 | Jamash | is it weird to anyone else that (as far as I've seen) neither the player character nor Thrall nor Khadgar etc. ever mention the whole "hey we're sort of from your future but not exactly" thing to anyone on Draenor? |
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| 18:58.38 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 18:58.40 | Fisker | why are people mean to me? |
| 18:58.41 | Fisker | https://cdn.mediacru.sh/m/mg5jJvlndh0u.png |
| 19:00.35 | zenzelezz | now that looks icky |
| 19:01.54 | zenzelezz | so what's your style Fisker; space pirate? |
| 19:06.29 | Fisker | no bounty hunter |
| 19:07.15 | VIad | foxlit: I saw your little battler - maybe it can be even better, like the mission planner! :O |
| 19:07.30 | VIad | i.e. you could make a "recommended teams" to counter a pet team of 3 pets |
| 19:07.46 | VIad | could even do hypotheticals, .e.g setup a team of 3 and see what pets of yours counter theirs |
| 19:07.52 | VIad | pure type wise that is |
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| 19:09.08 | VIad | missions and pets share a lot of similarities :p |
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| 19:25.52 | VIad | http://imgur.com/gallery/uG0C5gp |
| 19:26.41 | VIad | killing blow to boss resets your cooldowns - but not if it's scripted event :D |
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| 19:43.37 | karl_w_w | yes Jamash |
| 19:44.11 | karl_w_w | it kinda kills the story that we don't know what is going on |
| 19:44.49 | karl_w_w | is it meant to be a secret? are they trying to repair the timeline, caverns of time style? |
| 19:46.48 | karl_w_w | why can't I just go and kill exarch maladaar now before he becomes a problem? |
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| 20:14.48 | karl_w_w | i dream of a future where on hot days you can have a device that directly cools your blood |
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| 20:16.06 | Thunder_Child | There are many such devices. |
| 20:16.27 | Mr_Rabies | are there any advantages to lv3 prof buildings other than more work orders? |
| 20:17.34 | karl_w_w | they look better |
| 20:18.02 | karl_w_w | portable ones Thunder_Child? |
| 20:18.13 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: Yes. |
| 20:18.33 | Thunder_Child | Oh, I misread that |
| 20:18.40 | Thunder_Child | I read that as head. |
| 20:19.16 | Thunder_Child | The answer is still yes, but you would be unlikely to survive. |
| 20:22.00 | Thunder_Child | The one that you could survive is cooled saline iv bags. |
| 20:22.26 | karl_w_w | http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/mit-students-develop-personal-cooling-device-make-air-conditioning-obsolete/ |
| 20:22.42 | karl_w_w | i wasnt thinking of having the blood leave the body |
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| 20:23.16 | karl_w_w | you'd be amazed what you can accomplish by putting your wrist under a cold tap for a minute |
| 20:30.44 | Thunder_Child | Yes, wet skin. |
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| 21:32.28 | Shadowed | thanks foxlit :P |
| 21:34.35 | Constie | I say that every time a mission fails. |
| 21:45.42 | foxlit | wasn't there a way to skip the formalities at wyrmrest? |
| 21:45.50 | foxlit | the summit sequences are kind of slow :( |
| 21:50.42 | mikma | how can i match a string "Level * (Player)" ? (the * is something i don't care, just the two strings. example: Level 100 Night Elf Death Knight (Player) |
| 21:51.23 | kd3 | Level .*? \(Player\) |
| 21:52.21 | mikma | this works like: string.match("Level .*? \(Player\)",textIamScanning) ? |
| 21:57.21 | mikma | err, the other way around etc |
| 21:59.20 | mikma | hmm no |
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| 22:07.08 | g0urra | anyone on horde EU want to do shadowmoon invasion? |
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| 22:35.14 | VIad | mikma: |
| 22:35.19 | VIad | what are you trying to do? |
| 22:35.51 | VIad | "Level # RACE CLASS (Player)" ? |
| 22:35.58 | VIad | remember since race and class can have spacing |
| 22:36.05 | VIad | you can't have that simple matcher |
| 22:36.25 | VIad | "Level (%d+) (.-) %(Player%)" |
| 22:36.31 | VIad | then you need further matching for the .- part |
| 22:36.36 | VIad | i.e. find the race and class from it |
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| 22:50.27 | mikma | viad: string.match(left:GetText(),"Level .*(Player)") |
| 22:51.03 | mikma | viad: i'm only checking this line if the level is displayed, and then i'm taking the line number |
| 22:56.01 | VIad | "^Level (%d+)" |
| 22:56.04 | VIad | should suffice then, mikma |
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| 23:16.47 | mikma | viad: yeah, i guessed. but if for some god forsaken reason some idiot has decided to name his guild "Level 100 dorks" then i would be in problem. (Player) eliminates that problem |
| 23:16.57 | VIad | :D |
| 23:16.59 | VIad | then |
| 23:17.14 | VIad | "^Level (%d+) .- %(Player%)$" |
| 23:17.19 | VIad | to get the level |
| 23:17.38 | mikma | viad: no need to get the level from tooltip, UnitLevel("mouseover") does that :) |
| 23:18.10 | nevcairiel | why cant you get the other info from Unit functions as well then? :) |
| 23:18.31 | nevcairiel | UnitRace, UnitClass etc |
| 23:18.46 | mikma | nevcairiel: i am. i'm modifying the default GameTooltip, not recreating it :) |
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| 23:19.48 | mikma | nevcairiel: https://github.com/MikkoMajuri/miniTip/blob/master/miniTip.lua :P |
| 23:21.39 | mikma | i'm just scanning the tooltip in order to change the exact, correct lines of the tooltip |
| 23:21.52 | mikma | i had some problems of double level -lines before 6.0 |
| 23:30.43 | VIad | ugh... I hear fireworks like 4 days earlier :/ |
| 23:50.34 | mikma | http://explosm.net/rcg |
| 23:58.56 | jleclanche | mikma: first try gets me a really good one: http://files.explosm.net/rcg/ThoughtlessJumpPig.png |
