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| 00:18.27 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/Noxychu/status/542835008873193472 this is amazing |
| 00:40.30 | Xuerian | Oh dear. That's one way to make some money. |
| 00:41.29 | fewyn | they are 100$ |
| 00:41.36 | fewyn | hand made and made to order |
| 00:41.38 | Xuerian | yehp |
| 00:41.44 | fewyn | wish i had the money for one =p |
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| 00:46.33 | Simca | could just be a weird coincidence but i wonder if they did a hotfix with garrison missions at some point |
| 00:46.34 | fewyn | ? |
| 00:46.34 | Simca | in the last day, i've had 8 level missions with XP rewards at 8k or higher |
| 00:46.34 | Simca | 8 level 100* |
| 00:46.34 | kd3 | that's just you |
| 00:46.35 | fewyn | i haven't really seen any changes in missions other than salvage |
| 00:46.36 | kd3 | I haven't been so lucky |
| 00:46.38 | fewyn | just you |
| 00:50.29 | Simca | would be great if masterplan accounted for the fact that a follower would waste XP by hitting 100 epic - this guy is 'ideal' for a 12k exp mission but he's 1.2k exp from epic so i'm sure he's not actually ideal |
| 00:55.54 | Semlar | foxlit master plan needs a button to automatically assign all of the followers to their ideal missions so i don't have to do anything |
| 01:00.01 | Xuerian | What, you want to play IdleQuest? |
| 01:01.12 | foxlit | Semlar: way ahead of you; there should be an addon to replace the entire garrison ui with a "give me loot" button. |
| 01:01.12 | foxlit | in fact, isn't this where... |
| 01:01.12 | foxlit | ... we came in? |
| 01:01.29 | Semlar | oh right |
| 01:01.57 | Semlar | do you have an ETA? |
| 01:04.59 | foxlit | nope. |
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| 01:13.55 | Simca | also i made a ticket for my "would be great if" comment |
| 01:14.10 | Simca | like a reasonable person |
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| 01:24.59 | Simca | for macro conditionals, does 'harm' imply 'nodead'? |
| 01:26.15 | tz | go kill something and try it on their corpse? |
| 01:28.52 | Simca | thanks |
| 01:28.54 | Simca | and not implied |
| 01:29.20 | Simca | (which is fairly dumb) |
| 01:31.38 | tz | :s |
| 01:31.44 | tz | that does seem a bit silly |
| 01:32.04 | tz | can't be harmful if it's dead... guess it's just whether it's flagged hostile or not |
| 01:32.13 | tz | as a unit |
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| 01:58.31 | Primer | Not sure what's causing PB4 to not load everyone in bgs again |
| 01:58.45 | Primer | I'm constantly having to /rl at the start |
| 01:58.50 | Primer | because the last person almost never loads |
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| 02:27.16 | Primer | again |
| 02:27.23 | Primer | it's always the last person that fails to load |
| 02:27.43 | Primer | 9 in the bg right now in the starting area, 8 raid frames |
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| 02:39.57 | fewyn | Citizens of Dalaran! Raise your eyes to the skies and observe! Rhonin, Leader of the Kirin Tor, should now be reciting their spoken lines to characters within a much smaller radius in the streets of the city of Dalaran. Note that his text... his text are still worth reading and continue to still visible to those within the city. |
| 02:39.58 | fewyn | lol |
| 02:40.03 | fewyn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/16561637/#dec10 |
| 02:41.39 | fewyn | Credit for defeating bosses on Raid Finder difficulty should no longer incorrectly have a daily reset instead of a weekly one. |
| 02:46.05 | kd3 | oops |
| 02:46.57 | kd3 | yay, freaking finally. "Players defeating the final boss that pushes their invasion score to over 1000 should now correctly be able to receive credit for obtaining a gold rating." |
| 02:58.33 | Primer | wasn't that a few days ago |
| 02:58.36 | Primer | ? |
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| 04:30.43 | Neffi | ~framexml |
| 04:30.43 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml. ExportInterfaceFiles art in the console |
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| 05:17.20 | Ivnedar | I loved that healing pots could proc multistrike |
| 05:19.03 | Neffi | abducts Semlar with his flying saucer. |
| 05:20.02 | Fisker | We're sad kd3 |
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| 05:20.11 | Fisker | Need 2 seeds for level 3 herb garden |
| 05:20.12 | Fisker | ;_; |
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| 05:27.34 | Dagmar | lol my Festsive Filled Mug from like, 2006 finally wore out |
| 05:27.44 | Dagmar | I now have three empty mugs |
| 05:27.56 | Dagmar | That has to be the best bugged item ever |
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| 05:28.26 | Dagmar | er... _was_ the best |
| 05:29.02 | Dagmar | I'm not sure it's ability to produce multiple empty mugs is useful, but I'll hang onto them and refill them, just in case. |
| 05:29.19 | Dagmar | I must have used the thing at least 20 times in the last week alone |
| 05:29.30 | Semlar | i think i'm just going to delete my hunter and make a class that doesn't suck |
| 05:29.45 | Dagmar | Go BM. |
| 05:30.29 | Neffi | Semlar: make a paladin. because paladins are pink. and that's fabulous |
| 05:30.45 | Semlar | lol bm |
| 05:31.03 | Dagmar | At the moment I'm topping charts in Heroics, and I keep shit under control. |
| 05:31.23 | Semlar | bm sucks balls compared to marksmanship right now |
| 05:31.28 | Semlar | even after the nerf |
| 05:31.31 | Dagmar | That'll get fixed. |
| 05:32.22 | Semlar | i was basically last on the meters on twin orgrons because of the movement despite supposedly being more mobile than the rest of these casters |
| 05:33.12 | Semlar | a lot less |
| 05:33.15 | Semlar | a loooooooot less damage |
| 05:33.32 | Semlar | which fotm should i boost |
| 05:34.17 | Neffi | all of them |
| 05:34.25 | Neffi | then you'll alwyas have an fotm to play |
| 05:34.38 | Semlar | our dk is crushing people on aoe pulls, warlocks are obviously topping every fight |
| 05:35.03 | Semlar | warlock is probably the best bet |
| 05:35.19 | Neffi | wait, locks didnt get nerfed into the ground yet? |
| 05:36.11 | Semlar | too busy nerfing hunters neffi |
| 05:36.59 | Neffi | bah! you shoulda made one in late mop |
| 05:37.06 | Iriel | Given the fluidity in this game over time, anyone who says âIâm going to delete my X and make a Yâ sounds like a huge drama queen. Why canât you just say âStop playing my X and play a Yâ instead and make it realistic? |
| 05:37.31 | Iriel | (Yes, itâs a peeve) |
| 05:38.04 | Ivnedar | Maybe they haven't realised they can have more than one character |
| 05:39.03 | Neffi | I'm bored Semlar. thinking of making all of Moria in Minecraft. should I? |
| 05:41.27 | Dagmar | You can always pick up boomkin if you're bored |
| 05:41.31 | Ivnedar | by hand or with a modelling tool? |
| 05:41.41 | Dagmar | Possibly the most annoying goddamn set of spells ever |
| 05:42.03 | Neffi | Ivnedar: by hand, of course. what's the fun in using a modeling tool? |
| 05:42.23 | Dagmar | Sleeping. Sunshine. |
| 05:42.29 | Ivnedar | No idea, I prefer by hand too :) |
| 05:42.32 | Neffi | then again I just consulted a map of Moria and I'd forgotten how incredibly big it actually is. think I'm just gonna make a much smaller kingdom based on it |
| 05:42.54 | Ivnedar | But I've wandered around inside some impressive large scale worlds created in modellers |
| 05:43.05 | Dagmar | I used to make subsurbs, and then I decided it was making me want to kick Notch in the jimmy. |
| 05:43.17 | Dagmar | Random zombie spawns in the middle of a village. Pfaugh. |
| 05:43.26 | Neffi | meh. creative mode already feels like cheating, sort of. |
| 05:44.45 | Semlar | sorry, boss fight |
| 05:45.00 | Semlar | but yeah, there's no point playing a class that brings nothing to the raid until they fix it |
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| 06:05.00 | Simca | foxlit: I wonder if that guy from forever ago with the weird ticket about "not counting inactive followers" was talking about this |
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| 06:05.09 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/2JIKFcb.png |
| 06:05.28 | Simca | I just noticed MasterPlan -does- count inactive followers, but only in the location and slayer trait counts |
| 06:05.32 | Simca | maybe a bug |
| 06:08.54 | Fisker | hey Thunder_Child |
| 06:09.04 | Sintacks | sad. saw EBB update and got excited but it's not EBB 3.0. |
| 06:09.16 | Semlar | feral druid neffi |
| 06:09.43 | Sintacks | hi Semlar |
| 06:09.47 | Sintacks | Fisker, hi |
| 06:09.53 | Fisker | hi Sintacks |
| 06:09.53 | Semlar | hi sintacks |
| 06:12.57 | Sintacks | i don't like there being an addon named after me |
| 06:12.58 | Sintacks | :| |
| 06:22.18 | Neffi | Semlar: feral droods are cool |
| 06:25.00 | karl_w_w | http://www.idolol.com/pictures/f88f8f0d9f5d571b38a7914b74f63a9e.jpg |
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| 08:01.54 | Simca | Interesting |
| 08:02.19 | Fisker | what is? |
| 08:02.41 | Simca | Blizzard described eligibility for the Highmaul Raid missions as being based on 'one difficulty higher than your best Highmaul clear' |
| 08:02.49 | Simca | but apparently it isn't a clear or killing the end boss |
| 08:02.57 | Simca | but some arbitrary amount of kills on that difficulty |
| 08:03.31 | Simca | people are speculating that it is 15 kills on a difficulty to unlock the next difficulty level mission for Highmaul. |
| 08:03.37 | nevcairiel | it felt like they didnt want to make "one kill" to be the sole requirement so people dont go buy kills just to bump the mission |
| 08:03.57 | Simca | in theory, that could be 15 back-to-back Kargath Bladefist heroic kills though |
| 08:04.11 | Simca | it doesn't care whether you are eligible for loot when it counts them |
| 08:04.19 | nevcairiel | or so your theory goes |
| 08:04.53 | Simca | yeah |
| 08:05.48 | Simca | if it is 15 kills, it definitely doesn't care about loot eligibility |
| 08:06.01 | Simca | because nobody could have 15 loot-eligible heroic kills yet |
| 08:07.19 | Simca | and i don't think there is enough of an advantage that people will start 'LFM 15 Kargath Heroics for Mythic Mission, PST' |
| 08:07.55 | Simca | but then again people actually spent the last few days farming mythic trash mobs |
| 08:08.00 | Simca | so i guess some people will do anything |
| 08:08.36 | nevcairiel | farming trash for belts and cloaks isnt that unusual |
| 08:14.52 | Fisker | How long does it last? |
| 08:14.57 | Fisker | a week or forever? |
| 08:15.17 | nevcairiel | what? |
| 08:15.41 | Fisker | that it considers you eligible for mythic loot in the mission |
| 08:15.47 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 08:15.48 | nevcairiel | no idea |
| 08:16.25 | Simca | forever |
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| 08:17.15 | Fisker | oh that's nice then |
| 08:17.24 | nevcairiel | if people do truely start exploiting that to push it up one tier beyond their normal progression, blizzard might still change that however |
| 08:17.48 | Fisker | seems silly |
| 08:19.35 | Disco | anybody know offhand how to move things that show up as "table: 000000006ca589d0" in the framestack? |
| 08:19.56 | Disco | using moveanything or something else |
| 08:20.20 | nebula169 | give the table a name |
| 08:20.22 | nebula169 | :p |
| 08:20.37 | Disco | ok i named it steve |
| 08:20.51 | Disco | steve doesn't listen when i try to move him |
| 08:25.20 | nebula169 | fucking steve |
| 08:27.47 | Neffi | Disco: if it's directly under the mouse and mouse-enabled you could use GetMouseFocus() to get a reference to it |
| 08:31.08 | Disco | Neffi that gives me the same thing as the framestack |
| 08:31.37 | Disco | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:31.49 | nevcairiel | thats normal, you are not supposed to print it :p |
| 08:33.28 | Disco | i don't know what to do with a reference |
| 08:34.14 | Neffi | oh, using an addon to move stuff? iunno about those addons |
| 08:34.48 | Disco | MoveAnything lets you move any frame that you know the name of |
| 08:35.28 | Neffi | you could assign it to a global, but I dont know how early in the load process MoveAnything does its business |
| 08:35.35 | nevcairiel | unnamed frames are more often then not created by addons, you should use said addon to move it instead of mocking with MoveAnything tbh |
| 08:36.53 | Disco | MA gives much more control than most addons give over their own frames |
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| 08:58.48 | Mr_Rabies | argh |
| 08:58.59 | Mr_Rabies | demo locks can't res their pets more often or anything can they? |
| 08:59.13 | Mr_Rabies | er more quickly |
| 08:59.27 | Mr_Rabies | my wrathguard keeps dying in solo play :| |
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| 09:06.00 | Xuerian | Destro can |
| 09:06.11 | Xuerian | Affliction can too iirc |
| 09:37.42 | Fisker | I have never been so happy in my life karl_w_w |
| 09:38.23 | Primer | demo has health funnel |
| 09:38.24 | Fisker | Some warlock just played fel reaver with my hand consisting of like 5 1-mana spells |
| 09:38.26 | Primer | the other specs don't |
| 09:38.30 | Primer | L2HEALTHFUNNEL |
| 09:49.35 | Mr_Rabies | BUT IT'S CRAPPY |
| 09:49.36 | Mr_Rabies | :< |
| 09:49.43 | Mr_Rabies | channeling and low hps |
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| 12:05.56 | karl_w_w | oh look, lug'dol's thugs are back |
| 12:06.03 | karl_w_w | that dude must pay really well |
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| 12:12.16 | Fisker | 2 1 health minion, 1 egg and a sapper with 6 attack |
| 12:12.22 | Fisker | yolo flame cannon kill it |
| 12:12.31 | Fisker | and then ping the 1 health with fire blast |
| 12:13.17 | Fisker | opponent left so he was appropriately pissed about it |
| 12:13.36 | karl_w_w | i always feel so dirty when i rush somebody down in arena even though he has board control |
| 12:15.15 | Fisker | it was really funny going against a warlock with fel reaver |
| 12:15.22 | Fisker | Killed like 15 of his cards in one turn |
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| 12:23.32 | jleclanche | foxlit: I don't know if it's intended, but when I have a follower which increases the resource reward of a mission on such a mission, the reward shown in the active mission panel is not increased. it's a bit confusing as it is |
| 12:29.16 | Fisker | this guy must be stream sniping |
| 12:29.21 | Fisker | how the hell does he know to clear my board |
| 12:31.59 | Fisker | damnit |
| 12:32.08 | Fisker | I thought this shit was on my turn |
| 12:43.28 | Fisker | got 2 bananas for my mech build |
| 12:43.30 | Fisker | thanks |
| 12:45.27 | Fisker | I got 4 free fireballs if he doesn't clear my sorcerer's apprentice |
| 12:45.33 | Fisker | he did not |
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| 12:53.50 | Fisker | lolwat |
| 12:54.11 | Fisker | I got a warlock to 5hp and played my archmage antonidas then cloaked him |
| 12:54.20 | Fisker | and he went "Sorry" and twisting nethered the board |
| 12:54.41 | Fisker | I'm not sure he knows how antonidas works |
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| 13:34.36 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, delicious gringerbread people. |
| 13:35.59 | Simca | We represent the Lopeppe guild |
| 13:37.20 | tlund | Fisker: what is "stream sniping"? |
| 13:37.31 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 13:37.45 | Fisker | it is when you watch streamers in hearthstone to counter their strategy |
| 13:39.42 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:39.55 | steino | 183 19.11.14 12:35:36 00:00:01 Mobilt Internet 0,001 0,00 |
| 13:40.02 | steino | ops |
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| 13:40.37 | Fisker | I now know you use internet on your phone steino |
| 13:40.41 | Fisker | [x] rekt [ ] not rekt |
| 13:40.47 | steino | :( |
| 13:40.53 | foxlit | seems like it thinks that the 1 glyph is actually wider than it is. |
| 13:41.23 | Lopeppeppy | My guild is the best guild. We have cookies. |
| 13:46.29 | foxlit | jleclanche: that's blizzard's UI currently; I'm replacing it eventually with something that accounts for party bonuses. |
| 13:46.37 | jleclanche | foxlit: neat |
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| 15:53.42 | Neffi | so some guy accidentally ordered the cah black friday special. he was kind enough to give us an unboxing http://imgur.com/a/VpGCM?gallery |
| 15:53.57 | Neffi | this is all kinds of fantastic |
| 15:54.35 | Dagmar | I guess it wasn't shipped fedex |
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| 16:06.50 | Semlar | i wonder if shipping that is some sort of biohazard |
| 16:07.15 | Neffi | Semlar: people buy manure all the time, you know |
| 16:07.23 | Semlar | that doesn't sound right |
| 16:07.29 | Neffi | no it's true |
| 16:07.44 | Neffi | i had like 200 pounds of the stuff this past spring |
| 16:08.05 | Neffi | proper gardening is shitty work |
| 16:11.28 | Dagmar | Different shippers have different restrictions. |
| 16:11.37 | Dagmar | ...most of them won't let you ship aerosol cans. |
| 16:12.02 | Dagmar | About half of them have restrictions against any sort of biological waste (i.e., poop) |
| 16:12.14 | Neffi | and you know, I think we can all be silently glad that manure does not come in aerosol form |
| 16:12.20 | Dagmar | YES. |
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| 16:46.48 | Thunder_Child | Anyone have an opinion about pycharm vs intellij for python if the cost is the same? |
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| 17:04.34 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:04.56 | Semlar | gg |
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| 17:05.41 | Semlar | maybe they round down |
| 17:05.52 | Semlar | and it's like 99.9999 |
| 17:06.37 | foxlit | but it counters everything with equal-level followers. what else could it possibly want from me? |
| 17:06.44 | Thunder_Child | Type? |
| 17:07.03 | Thunder_Child | Maybe it's a fubar modification of the party buff? |
| 17:07.05 | fewyn | i wish there was an easier way to destroy toys i already have since most of them can't be vendored |
| 17:07.06 | Semlar | i'm just thinking it might be how the numbers are stored |
| 17:07.23 | Semlar | but maybe that's crazy |
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| 17:08.00 | Thunder_Child | so call you maybe? |
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| 17:48.40 | Fisker | yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes karl_w_w |
| 17:48.48 | karl_w_w | yes |
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| 17:49.52 | Fisker | it was awesome |
| 17:51.03 | Fisker | priest plays sneeds, I play antonidas, taunt the sneeds, frostbolt it (get 2 fireballs), priest then plays blingtron gets fucking gorehowl (which can oneshot my antonidas of course) which he does, then he drops harrison on my (coincidentally) gorehowl and realizes he's at 13 health and out of mana |
| 17:51.04 | Fisker | yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees |
| 17:51.21 | Fisker | not quite what was planned |
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| 17:56.44 | karl_w_w | 2ez |
| 17:56.48 | Fisker | nooooooooooo |
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| 18:50.26 | Simca | i wonder if bonus sockets are just flat out better than warforged |
| 18:50.41 | Simca | or where the threshold is |
| 18:51.01 | nevcairiel | How about, both! |
| 18:51.25 | Simca | well, if you have it, sure |
| 18:53.38 | Simca | but i have a lot of slots where i have like 6 pairs of gear and maybe one is warforged and another is bonus socket |
| 18:56.48 | Simca | i guess it depends a lot on the slot |
| 18:56.58 | Simca | chestpieces have very high stats, warforged might be worth it |
| 18:57.23 | Simca | but on a belt, it probably isn't |
| 18:57.48 | nevcairiel | Well easy enough to calculate |
| 18:59.46 | Simca | yeah depends on stat weights though since gems are only secondaries whereas warforged is both |
| 19:01.48 | Simca | and as the scaling is still expotential, warforged gets better as ilvl increases |
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| 19:38.24 | VIad | bunker rank 2->3 was basically the same building :( |
| 19:38.27 | mikma | https://twitter.com/jamesblunt |
| 19:38.28 | VIad | same for rank 2->3 inn |
| 19:38.34 | VIad | lazy blizz! |
| 19:38.35 | mikma | most likely my favorite twitter |
| 20:28.56 | foxlit | oh hey, you can now get crystal vials in your garrison. |
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| 20:40.33 | kd3 | traveler's tundra mammoth says what? |
| 20:40.43 | Simca | does anyone know if being drunk affects chat loot messages (CHAT_MSG_LOOT) |
| 20:41.32 | Xuerian | Simca: afaik it doesn't |
| 20:44.01 | Simca | also because i haven't mentioned it enough - boy is it terrible that the only way to record drops from several different sources in WoD is chat messages and guessing |
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| 20:44.39 | Xuerian | The bad kind of pita yes |
| 20:45.33 | foxlit | this is clearly important to all three of you trying to maintain drop databases :P |
| 20:46.18 | Xuerian | Or any other addons tracking drops, of which I know of at least two of us here :p |
| 20:46.51 | foxlit | subset, really. |
| 20:47.13 | Xuerian | shrugs. |
| 20:53.32 | Simca | foxlit: it is also important to many trying to use those databases |
| 20:56.46 | Xuerian | Simca: You having a specific problem with it? |
| 20:59.50 | Simca | trying to record drops for http://www.wowdb.com/items/116980-invaders-forgotten-treasure / http://www.wowhead.com/item=116980 |
| 21:00.06 | Simca | problem is that at some point they removed the right click to open part |
| 21:00.12 | Simca | (very late beta) |
| 21:00.20 | Simca | and the loot just magically appears in your inventory now |
| 21:00.44 | Xuerian | Any event for getting the bag itself? |
| 21:01.05 | Simca | yeah |
| 21:01.10 | Simca | and for using it, i think |
| 21:01.15 | karl_w_w | http://i.4cdn.org/b/1418323485057.webm aliens ar real |
| 21:01.21 | Simca | but the problem is contaminated data |
| 21:01.35 | Xuerian | oh? |
| 21:01.44 | Simca | if a user is doing something else when they open it... |
| 21:02.05 | Simca | and the only way to detect it is chat messages |
| 21:03.03 | Simca | i'd have to have guards around every other possible loot source (toasts, shared money drops, real loot windows) to prevent the chat messages from other sources being read as 'drops' of the bag |
| 21:03.08 | Xuerian | blerk |
| 21:04.24 | Simca | and i don't think it triggers a GCD either, so when you get 'gold' and win all 3 invader's bags, if you opened them all in 1 ms or with a macro |
| 21:04.37 | Simca | congrats all the loot was assigned to whatever one was clicked last |
| 21:05.08 | Xuerian | This is why you get the big bucks |
| 21:05.54 | Simca | haha, hardly |
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| 21:09.22 | JTF195 | does anyone know what the hell is wrong with Wintergrasp CRZ/phasing? |
| 21:09.35 | Primer | no |
| 21:09.53 | Xuerian | What, you randomly get dismounted with no warning when flying over it to get to Eye too? |
| 21:10.02 | JTF195 | i used a queue macro. got into the battle. won. |
| 21:10.05 | JTF195 | that all works fine |
| 21:10.18 | JTF195 | went in to VoA and killed the bosses, that was fine |
| 21:10.30 | kullervo | nothing like getting dismounted while flying over the twisting nether |
| 21:10.50 | JTF195 | took the port to dalaran, grabbed the fishing daily. it happened to be terrorfish |
| 21:11.08 | JTF195 | so i flew back to WG, and now it says horde controlled, and nothing whatsoever is spawned |
| 21:11.42 | JTF195 | like, no walls, towers, mobs, nothing |
| 21:12.05 | foxlit | there should be a website that'd show you the image given a WoW atlas name. |
| 21:13.00 | Xuerian | There should be a reptilian run animation for cloud serpents. |
| 21:13.08 | foxlit | do they even have paws? |
| 21:13.17 | kullervo | Xuerian: you notice they don't ever land even if wild |
| 21:13.18 | Xuerian | Quite capable ones |
| 21:13.39 | kullervo | they have magical flight after all, not a physical one like most other creatures |
| 21:13.47 | Xuerian | kullervo: But they still have functional legs and that run animation would look awesome |
| 21:14.12 | foxlit | for instance, I might want to steal one of GarrMission_RewardsBox_Shadow, GarrLanding_RewardsShadow, GarrFollower-Shadow, GarrMission_RewardsShadow, Garr_InfoBox-CornerShadow, but I have no idea how any of those look. |
| 21:15.25 | Xuerian | Well here's a better "not an answer" question, what exactly is an atlas anyway? They seem new-ish. |
| 21:15.26 | Simca | i actually made a splitter script |
| 21:15.52 | Simca | that takes all the atlases, makes folders with their file names, and then fills the folders with the pieces based on the db2 names |
| 21:16.11 | foxlit | Xuerian: it's a name that eventually maps to a file and a set of texture coordinates. |
| 21:16.16 | Simca | lemme see if i still have it |
| 21:16.41 | foxlit | so rather than :SetTexture, :SetSize, and :SetTexCoord, you can call :SetAtlas and it'd do a combination of those three for you. |
| 21:16.58 | Xuerian | .. Huh. Handy. |
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| 21:19.02 | JTF195 | weird. i just took the portal from dal to wintergrasp, and this time it took me to the correct one... |
| 21:19.31 | JTF195 | says alliance controlled, although there's still nothing spawned |
| 21:22.31 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/cr.jpg << looks awkward; probably needs an outer border. |
| 21:22.59 | Simca | yeah or an inner panel, below the title |
| 21:29.02 | Primer | Priests should no longer be able to continue to hold onto the flag while in Spirit of Redemption form. |
| 21:29.05 | Primer | bwahahaha |
| 21:29.14 | Primer | I would have loved to see that |
| 21:30.08 | Simca | foxlit: would an extract of current texture atlas pieces be useful to you? i think i got my script working |
| 21:30.44 | foxlit | i.e. named pngs? |
| 21:30.49 | Simca | yeah |
| 21:32.26 | foxlit | mm, maybe. Can't search through them easily, but it'd at least let me peek at them with open. |
| 21:42.03 | Simca | heh i was complaining the other day that the ilvl 600 weapon mission having 5 mechanics was a bit unreasonable and somebody said 'well it is a weapon'. |
| 21:42.04 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/kFs3ekU.png |
| 21:42.16 | Simca | apparently ilvl 615 has 3 mechanics and ilvl 630 has 4. |
| 21:42.19 | Simca | lol |
| 21:48.54 | Thunder_Child | it has a higher ilevel item reward |
| 21:49.17 | Thunder_Child | oh, nvm me. |
| 21:49.20 | Thunder_Child | misread. |
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| 21:57.04 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/rw.jpg << this, then. |
| 21:58.01 | tz | jesus |
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| 22:04.52 | Stanzilla | foxlit: that is sexy |
| 22:07.32 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: Could make it consistant. |
| 22:07.42 | foxlit | hm? |
| 22:07.53 | Thunder_Child | Use the same backgound/border as the bars. |
| 22:08.06 | Thunder_Child | or the mission window. |
| 22:09.04 | Simca | ew, http://i.imgur.com/s9A8hy9.png - "ITEM_LOCK_CHANGED" is the first sign of me opening the box. none of the events, including the mysterious 3 sec late "LOOT_CLOSED" (without a respective LOOT_OPENED) gives any information besides the itemID |
| 22:09.50 | Neffi | I'm surprised they gave you the itemid |
| 22:10.19 | Neffi | after years of hacking at wow, I'm pleasantly surprised if the event throws me ANY info |
| 22:10.29 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: I don't think that would be an improvement. |
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| 22:11.01 | Simca | might be able to figure out the container's ID if I scan all bag slots for a 'locked' item on "ITEM_LOCK_CHANGED"... maybe |
| 22:11.07 | foxlit | It's an overlay; if it reuses the background of the things its overlaying, it'll look like a border around a gaping hole into the primary background. |
| 22:11.37 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: Not the wood. |
| 22:13.05 | fewyn | selling stuff in the steam marketplace has way too many button clicks |
| 22:17.51 | Semlar | that's why i just do everything on update neffi |
| 22:19.03 | Neffi | the only way to program |
| 22:19.29 | Simca | I didn't anticipate the consequences of "extract Interface*blp" properly |
| 22:19.40 | Simca | because Interface\Icons\ exists. |
| 22:19.47 | kd3 | gigs and gigs of crap |
| 22:19.59 | Semlar | i heard you like icons |
| 22:20.19 | fewyn | you no like icon? |
| 22:20.45 | Simca | 35626 files; 1.38 GB |
| 22:20.55 | fewyn | sounds about right |
| 22:22.46 | Constie | Does that have duplicates? |
| 22:23.03 | Simca | nah |
| 22:23.19 | Simca | well no non-english duplicates |
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| 22:43.28 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:28.12 | Shirik | supposedly Sony is using AWS to DDOS sites that are sharing Sony's cracked data |
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| 23:29.46 | Shadowed | Funkeh`` why does skada have terrible setup for enabling itself |
| 23:30.00 | Shadowed | all I want is for it to be enabled in party and raid instances :( |
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| 23:30.11 | Xuerian | Shirik: This whole thing is interesting. I'm actually curious if there's something nasty enough about sony that they're worried about. |
| 23:30.47 | Shirik | I am of the opinion that every business has at least one secret that can instantly kill it |
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| 23:37.04 | Xuerian | And humanity loves a spectacle |
| 23:46.27 | foxlit | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/12/sony-fights-spread-of-stolen-data-by-using-bad-seed-attack-on-torrents/ has this: |
| 23:46.46 | foxlit | "[...] a large number of Torrent filesharing nodes that advertise fake âseeds." These files are offered via the Bittorrent file sharing protocol, and they match the signature of the stolen data while containing no usable content." |
| 23:47.45 | foxlit | and subsequently mentions sha1 signatures. Is sha1 preimage resistance so broken that you can create a file with an arbitrary signature? |
| 23:48.21 | Fisker | So is it faking the tracker or is it doing some kind of hash collision attack? |
| 23:49.35 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:54.07 | Jamash | except of course unless they are also putting fake peers on those fake torrents, people will download, say, 10mb of a fake file, preview it, see that it's fake and drop the torrent |
| 23:54.25 | Jamash | thus resulting in fake torrents with few to no peers, and real torrents with many peers |
| 23:55.06 | Jamash | it should, in principle, to make a torrent block list of AWS hosts |
| 23:55.10 | Jamash | *be possible |
| 23:55.23 | foxlit | That makes more sense, except then there'd be no reason to mention file signatures or SHA1. |
| 23:57.27 | Ivnedar | the fake .torrent approach was what mediaguard was doing wasn't it? |
| 23:57.37 | Ivnedar | the block collision stuff is what sony are doing |
| 23:58.39 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.04 | foxlit | strike "contained" |
| 23:59.31 | Ivnedar | Yeah, I'm interested in it more than the fake torrent one |
