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| 00:05.45 | Fisker | Yeah they were like 30g each before the buff |
| 00:25.06 | Neffi | if anyone in US is looking to get rid of their Nexus 5, ping me |
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| 00:38.23 | Semlar | they're nerfing hunters neffi |
| 00:38.42 | Neffi | this information makes me all tickly inside |
| 00:40.25 | Semlar | apparently marksmanship is overperforming, even though warlocks and mages and death knights and probably other classes do more damage |
| 00:40.38 | Dagmar | Good. |
| 00:40.43 | Semlar | oh i forgot monks |
| 00:41.59 | Semlar | i just like the fact that a warlock can outdamage a hunter even on a fight with a lot of movement |
| 00:42.25 | Semlar | and yet they're overperforming |
| 00:44.46 | Semlar | Resolved an issue where boosting characters that have XP disabled could wind up being unable to level. |
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| 01:13.20 | Ironii | [02:41:59] [Semlar] i just like the fact that a warlock can outdamage a hunter even on a fight with a lot of movement - mind pasting me a log about a warlock who does that? |
| 01:13.45 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:14.30 | Ironii | 643ilvl and 22k dps |
| 01:15.01 | Semlar | yeah? |
| 01:15.05 | Ironii | let's see if i can find a hunter with ~same gear |
| 01:15.14 | Semlar | me? on that fight? |
| 01:16.08 | Semlar | hopefully one without a 665 trinket which would greatly skew the results |
| 01:17.19 | Ironii | http://ironi.fi/hunters.JPG |
| 01:17.27 | Ironii | same fight & mode |
| 01:18.02 | Ironii | first hunter was 7. dps |
| 01:18.30 | Semlar | link to the actual log |
| 01:18.41 | Semlar | or show me that they aren't being outdamaged by warlocks |
| 01:19.43 | Thunder_Child | There seems to be a lack of pet dmg being shown for hunters. |
| 01:19.49 | Semlar | heh, pets |
| 01:20.15 | Semlar | unfortunately every other spec aside from lone wolf marksmanship is currently quite bad |
| 01:20.27 | Ironii | 1 destro warlock did outdps them, by 13dps and 13ilvls |
| 01:20.39 | Ironii | 33dps* |
| 01:20.40 | Semlar | although if blizzard plans on nerfing marksmanship then they'll all be equally bad |
| 01:20.55 | Semlar | so i guess we'll be able to pick which spec we want to play |
| 01:21.05 | Ironii | btw, best dps was 34k |
| 01:21.12 | Ironii | 650ilvl |
| 01:21.35 | Semlar | yes, i'm sure there's quite a large gap in dps between 640 and 650, especially if they're using the 665 trinkets |
| 01:21.56 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: ahahaha trump just pulled amaz's explosive-sheep-into-mirror-entity-into-knife-juggler-board-clear combo |
| 01:22.02 | Semlar | and of course the fight will be shorter so they'll have even higher damage |
| 01:25.10 | Ironii | ah, now i found a good log with both roles played by great players and ~same itemlevel, mm hunter 639: 23.5k, destro warlock 642ilvl: 21.9k |
| 01:25.20 | Ironii | and both players truly are top tier players |
| 01:26.25 | Semlar | link! |
| 01:26.58 | Ironii | private logs |
| 01:27.06 | Semlar | fine |
| 01:27.59 | fewyn | there we go up to 4 level 100s |
| 01:33.00 | Semlar | would you say marksmanship is overperforming, when you have them at 7th on the meter on a fight with a ton of movement |
| 01:56.06 | Ironii | well, that is a bad encounter for MM, 2 targets but you can't cleave them |
| 01:57.02 | Ironii | but in general yea, MM is stronger than most specs |
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| 02:07.36 | fewyn | i wish i could skip tanaan jungle |
| 02:12.13 | kd3 | that's why I haven't used my free 90 yet |
| 02:12.19 | kd3 | I did it a few dozen times in beta |
| 02:12.20 | kd3 | yuck |
| 02:12.46 | fewyn | http://sig.lanjelin.com/user/fewyn |
| 02:12.54 | fewyn | i've done it a "Few" times |
| 02:12.56 | fewyn | on live |
| 02:13.00 | fewyn | and about as many on beta |
| 02:13.29 | kd3 | what's your cumulative /played count? |
| 02:15.07 | Constie | Hi, goon friend. |
| 02:15.24 | fewyn | Hello comrade |
| 02:16.02 | fewyn | altoholic says 998 days but that doesn't count currently inactive accounts |
| 02:20.03 | Constie | Nerd. |
| 02:21.36 | Xuerian | fewyn: Get summoned past it. |
| 02:21.46 | fewyn | you can do that? |
| 02:21.49 | Xuerian | yep |
| 02:21.54 | fewyn | interesting |
| 02:22.03 | fewyn | wish there was a legitimate way to do it |
| 02:25.07 | Semlar | Ironii: that's one of the only fights where hunters should have a clear advantage over other ranged because of their mobility, so if any other caster is outdamaging them they can't possibly be considered overperforming |
| 02:27.42 | Constie | Overperforming relative to what they should be doing, which is the least of all DPS specs, because of all your utility. |
| 02:27.52 | Semlar | are you kidding, what utility |
| 02:27.59 | Constie | Yes. |
| 02:28.27 | fewyn | i'm still not sure how i'm outdpsing our entire guild on fights as an assassination rogue |
| 02:28.54 | Constie | Maybe there should be a soloing tax. Paladins, DKs, and Hunters are fun to solo old raids with, so they should be less fun in current raids. |
| 02:34.08 | Ironii | Semlar you don't have to move that much in twins but you can multidot and cleave them with most classes |
| 02:34.50 | Semlar | how can you avoid moving with fire all over the room |
| 02:34.54 | Ironii | but with MM chimera shot doesn't hit two targets 90% of the time since tanks have to move them alot and chimera shot has really short range |
| 02:35.32 | Ironii | stay in the right place and move during fox and/or instant casts that you would use anyway |
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| 02:36.29 | Ironii | not even hunters can do optimal dps by running around just for the fun of it |
| 02:40.06 | Semlar | not marksmanship, losing their mobility was their tax for actually doing the same dps as other people |
| 02:40.50 | Semlar | but they're still the most mobile ranged class |
| 02:41.51 | Ironii | yea they are, but the encounter in question doesn't need that much mobility |
| 02:41.58 | Ironii | unless you truly are just running around |
| 02:45.55 | Neffi | karl_w_w: http://i.imgur.com/DuT34Kl.jpg heh |
| 02:55.08 | Semlar | i don't know how you're doing twins without moving like crazy |
| 02:57.32 | karl_w_w | damn Neffi :P |
| 02:58.55 | karl_w_w | Semlar, if you're doing twins it's much more fun if you make them do the work :D |
| 03:18.22 | Mr_Rabies | gonna stand infront of admiral taylor and disenchant his polearm infront of him |
| 04:06.44 | Thunder_Child | You do that, I'm sure the 1's and 0's will feel pain. |
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| 05:13.38 | Mr_Rabies | argh |
| 05:13.53 | Mr_Rabies | everything i read says mastery is awful for us, but running simcraft it's saying it's my best secondary |
| 05:18.00 | Simca | haha i should read my classes' discussion boards more often |
| 05:22.00 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/RDmkJqT.png |
| 05:22.12 | Simca | (the badge icon indicates he is the professor) |
| 05:23.09 | Iriel | Nice, that last point is correct. |
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| 06:38.23 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:45.04 | Mr_Rabies | any clue if characters below 100 can get loot on world bosses? |
| 06:45.14 | Mr_Rabies | you could in MoP at <90 |
| 06:47.34 | MiRai | http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/2oiw0m/when_you_sneak_into_a_tarina_pull_at_93/ |
| 06:47.36 | MiRai | apparently so |
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| 06:48.37 | Semlar | tarina |
| 06:49.03 | MiRai | the comments talk about the spelling |
| 06:49.10 | Semlar | as they should |
| 06:52.14 | karl_w_w | tarlna boys |
| 06:54.43 | Maldivia | Blizzard and spelling is not raelly something that goes well together :D |
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| 06:56.40 | Simca | Dreani |
| 06:56.52 | Simca | the best goat race |
| 07:13.49 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/SXoy7Dd.png |
| 07:14.00 | Mr_Rabies | always go to 100 if you care about the bonus! |
| 07:14.16 | Mr_Rabies | also thanks MiRai, had a guildie asking |
| 07:22.12 | mikma | ouch |
| 07:29.50 | karl_w_w | i got a mission for resources yesterday, triple scavenger |
| 07:29.56 | karl_w_w | 910 GR from that mission |
| 07:32.13 | Fisker | almost max :P |
| 07:32.16 | karl_w_w | im thinking i might get a couple thousand more GR and then replace my lumber mill |
| 07:39.00 | Semlar | then where will the trees live |
| 07:42.44 | karl_w_w | 1 hour into this AH scan and it's only a third complete |
| 07:43.18 | Mr_Rabies | geez |
| 07:43.42 | Mr_Rabies | probably better off using the undermine journal addon |
| 07:44.05 | Mr_Rabies | (or manually pulling from the web api for your own alternative) |
| 07:46.31 | Semlar | can't you request the entire contents of the auction house with one call |
| 07:47.23 | Shirik | yes |
| 07:47.36 | Shirik | it can still take forever |
| 07:47.53 | Mr_Rabies | some servers have so much on their AH that it can take forever and/or disconnect you |
| 07:48.29 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 07:48.39 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 07:48.45 | Fisker | I missed you |
| 07:48.50 | Fisker | can you stand still? |
| 07:49.09 | Shirik | too busy ingressing |
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| 07:49.57 | Fisker | You didn't ingress very much at Blizzcon |
| 07:50.59 | karl_w_w | Semlar, getall is capped at 90k and disconnects me more often than not |
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| 09:28.47 | ccox | http://boingboing.net/2014/12/06/dumping-a-huge-bag-of-plastic.html |
| 09:37.15 | karl_w_w | it's like a scaled up demonstration of evaporation |
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| 10:00.08 | NuSuey | guess everyone is sleeping >.< |
| 10:00.28 | Fisker | That's very unlikely |
| 10:00.31 | Maldivia | nope |
| 10:13.01 | Fisker | It's only australia of the oceanic/sea region that is under the US "realmlist" right? TW and KR have a seperate one right? |
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| 10:13.29 | MiRai | Correct |
| 10:15.18 | karl_w_w | incorrect |
| 10:15.54 | karl_w_w | TW and KR have their own server, australia, kiwiland and the rest of SEA all play US |
| 10:21.26 | Fisker | Yes |
| 10:21.31 | Fisker | That's what I said karl_w_w |
| 10:21.50 | Fisker | Well |
| 10:22.02 | Fisker | I'm just silly that I consider TW/KR part of SEA |
| 10:22.43 | karl_w_w | you said only australia |
| 10:22.58 | karl_w_w | when it's only TW and KR that aren't |
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| 11:02.12 | xyphoid | didn't au just move to their own data centre? |
| 11:02.23 | xyphoid | there was a bunch of chat about that before WoD |
| 11:03.10 | karl_w_w | oceanic game servers hosted in australia |
| 11:03.11 | Ivnedar | Blizz transferred the Oceanic flagged servers to a Sydney datacentre |
| 11:03.20 | karl_w_w | login servers are still US |
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| 11:04.58 | karl_w_w | oh man, I'd forgotten how good peanut m&ms are |
| 11:05.04 | karl_w_w | I think it was better that way |
| 11:37.30 | karl_w_w | my living room is entirely lit by christmas lights |
| 11:40.05 | Fisker | nope.avi karl_w_w |
| 11:40.45 | jleclanche | Fisker: do you have jaraxxus? |
| 11:40.57 | Fisker | let me check |
| 11:41.02 | Fisker | I don't think so though :P |
| 11:41.24 | Fisker | Nope, I don't face jaraxxus :( |
| 11:42.06 | rid_ | :( |
| 11:42.13 | rid_ | face me Fisker |
| 11:42.24 | Fisker | I will |
| 11:42.43 | rid_ | good |
| 11:43.07 | jleclanche | does anyone here have jaraxxus on EU? karl_w_w? |
| 11:43.33 | rid_ | anyone or just karl_w_w ? |
| 11:45.32 | jleclanche | ffs |
| 11:45.40 | jleclanche | i buy *one* pack, i get grommash |
| 11:46.26 | karl_w_w | why buy old packs |
| 11:46.30 | karl_w_w | I don't play EU |
| 11:46.34 | jleclanche | because i need to test jaraxxus |
| 11:46.45 | karl_w_w | what do you need to test |
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| 11:48.47 | Fisker | lol |
| 11:48.52 | Fisker | played death rattle before undertaker |
| 11:48.52 | Fisker | gg |
| 11:49.51 | Fisker | Didn't matter cause hellfire, so just advanced BM |
| 12:12.26 | karl_w_w | Neffi, they lied! http://www.target.com/p/the-new-american-bible-null-paperback/-/A-13430603 |
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| 13:07.51 | Semlar | for my addon that deletes postmaster mail, should it mark the message as read even if it fails to loot the items to remove the "unread mail from: postmaster" icon on the minimap |
| 13:08.40 | nebula169 | Semlar: whats your addon that does mob spell cds? |
| 13:09.23 | Semlar | the thing that's giving me giant tooltips when i hover over a mob? |
| 13:09.51 | Semlar | that's bestiary which isn't really in any condition for anyone else to use |
| 13:11.42 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: i need to test a bug with armor |
| 13:13.08 | Fisker | I think it's stupid the sniper only works on hunter |
| 13:14.00 | jleclanche | it should just say "Your Steady Shot power" instead of "Your Hero Power" |
| 13:14.11 | jleclanche | problem solved |
| 13:14.33 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 13:14.34 | Semlar | nebula169: http://i.imgur.com/eecgonu.jpg |
| 13:15.29 | nebula169 | :p i've been meaning so do something like that |
| 13:16.00 | Semlar | it's one of the first addons i made in BC to keep track of what the hell mobs did in the dungeons i was running |
| 13:16.21 | nevcairiel | antiarc had an addon like that as well |
| 13:16.32 | Semlar | i could never remember what cleaved or whatever |
| 13:16.45 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowace.com/addons/mob-spells/ |
| 13:16.47 | nevcairiel | also long dead |
| 13:16.53 | nebula169 | yea |
| 13:17.04 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:17.25 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.01 | nevcairiel | not as out of date as Semlar's addon though :P |
| 13:18.08 | Semlar | >_> |
| 13:18.49 | Semlar | well it's much better now since you can't even browse the database any more |
| 13:20.08 | Semlar | i have to rewrite it like every expansion because they change the combat log or guids or something |
| 13:24.49 | Simca | ~wowalert |
| 13:24.50 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 13:25.03 | Simca | "We're in the process of restarting the World of Warcraft servers to resolve an issue impacting the game. During this time each realm may become unavailable for up to 15 minutes. We anticipate the restarts will complete by approximately 05:30 AM PST. We apologize for the short notice and appreciate your understanding." |
| 13:25.19 | Simca | odd |
| 13:25.32 | nebula169 | that's been the daily restart message for a few days |
| 13:26.26 | Simca | typically says we're restarting the servers at 5:00 AM PST, this process could take up to 30 minutes, each realm may be unavailable for 15 minutes. |
| 13:26.43 | Simca | without the first sentence or last one |
| 13:26.48 | Fisker | somebody haxed |
| 13:26.50 | Fisker | haxed hard |
| 13:26.56 | Fisker | people gonna get b& |
| 13:26.59 | nevcairiel | so they got a new guy to write messages, and thats odd now? :P |
| 13:27.25 | Simca | a very minor level of odd, but y es |
| 13:28.49 | Simca | heh, i think my server is fresh off the restarts; everything is retrieving item information |
| 13:28.59 | Simca | must be backlogged a bit on item info requests |
| 13:33.05 | Simca | i think this mission is a bit too difficult for the reward. I mean, 5 mechanics for a 615 is a bit harsh - only people just hitting 100 would care about the reward, and they're unlikely to be able to complete a 5-mechanic mission |
| 13:33.06 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/dYLlQ7c.png |
| 13:34.59 | karl_w_w | I think weapons have stiffer requirements |
| 13:35.08 | Fisker | I would use a selection of messages nevcairiel |
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| 13:40.36 | Simca | yeah they do karl_w_w, but i just think it's a bit harsh for a 615 |
| 13:40.51 | Simca | maybe it's fine for the ilvl 630 weapon from the follower ilvl 615 mission |
| 13:41.01 | Simca | cause that's heroic quality |
| 13:41.29 | karl_w_w | they're probably fine with it being less than 100% chance |
| 13:41.53 | karl_w_w | blizzard often design things to be disappointing and/or annoying |
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| 13:57.58 | Semlar | why does the preserved mining pick have no icon when you drag it |
| 13:58.40 | Semlar | how is that even separate from the normal item texture |
| 13:58.43 | karl_w_w | it's not that unusual |
| 13:59.02 | karl_w_w | that was the case with the g-something land shark all through mists |
| 13:59.25 | Semlar | i don't remember landsharks not having a texture when you dragged them, because this is super annoying |
| 13:59.46 | Semlar | every time i go to delete them it looks like i lost my cursor |
| 13:59.47 | karl_w_w | it still has cursor |
| 13:59.59 | nevcairiel | a tiny one! |
| 14:00.05 | Semlar | yeah it's just the tiny triangle |
| 14:00.14 | karl_w_w | wear your glasses grandpa :P |
| 14:01.53 | Semlar | did they remove carts again |
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| 14:02.13 | karl_w_w | if they did it was some time in the last 22 hours |
| 14:02.21 | Semlar | there are zero carts in my mine |
| 14:02.47 | nevcairiel | did you not assign a dude |
| 14:02.57 | Xandr | yeah, you only get carts with a dude now |
| 14:03.12 | Semlar | so they finally fixed that |
| 14:03.13 | nevcairiel | it was always meant to work like this, but it was broken :d |
| 14:03.25 | Semlar | well i don't like it, put it back |
| 14:04.40 | Semlar | i do like the herb garden giving far fewer draenic seeds than the mine gives draenic stones so you can never place enough work orders |
| 14:05.08 | karl_w_w | i usually get 4 orders per day out of my level 2 herb garden |
| 14:05.14 | nevcairiel | i have like 900 seeds stored in some dark place <.< |
| 14:05.16 | karl_w_w | only 2 short of max |
| 14:06.03 | Semlar | i always have 14 work orders going at my mine, i never have enough seeds to keep the herb person busy |
| 14:06.46 | Fisker | I hate that |
| 14:07.06 | karl_w_w | im trying to find something I can do that takes very little concentration that I can do while listening to something else |
| 14:07.15 | Semlar | warcraft? |
| 14:07.19 | karl_w_w | and im already revered with steamwheedle |
| 14:07.27 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: fishing |
| 14:07.32 | Semlar | get exalted with steamwheedle! |
| 14:07.38 | karl_w_w | there's no point |
| 14:07.42 | Semlar | and also get me exalted |
| 14:08.09 | Semlar | sure there's a point, you can eventually upgrade your trading post to level 3! |
| 14:08.40 | Semlar | and then you can get slightly more rep! |
| 14:08.50 | karl_w_w | dont have one |
| 14:09.16 | nevcairiel | TP3 is such a stupid design, get stuff to exalted to get more rep, but then you already have stuff on exalted |
| 14:09.34 | Semlar | having to get 3 reps to exalted is insane |
| 14:09.42 | Semlar | as a requirement for that |
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| 14:13.17 | nebula169 | achievement still shows 2/3, i'm assuming it doesn't complete when you get one exatled faction? |
| 14:13.22 | Semlar | NOPE |
| 14:13.25 | Semlar | nope* |
| 14:13.32 | karl_w_w | nOPe |
| 14:13.36 | Semlar | NoPe |
| 14:13.37 | nebula169 | ew |
| 14:14.13 | Semlar | at least it didn't for me, i got frostwolves to exalted, still 2/3, decided i wasn't going to bother trying to get anything else to exalted because it takes quite a lot of mindless grinding |
| 14:21.19 | nevcairiel | people can hate on daily quests all they want, but it still beats a mindless mob grind |
| 14:25.09 | karl_w_w | realtek HD audio -4 on karaoke setting is funny |
| 14:32.00 | Simca | the only real advantage of TP3 is for like alts i think |
| 14:32.20 | karl_w_w | god damn |
| 14:32.29 | karl_w_w | wow wont stay maximised |
| 14:32.45 | karl_w_w | it alt tabs out after 2 seconds |
| 14:33.18 | Simca | <Semlar> i do like the herb garden giving far fewer draenic seeds than the mine gives draenic stones so you can never place enough work orders |
| 14:33.43 | Simca | yeah i have 21/21 work orders queued with 198 stones in my bag. I have 2 work orders queued and 2 seeds in my bag. |
| 14:33.58 | Simca | (i'm neither an herbalist or miner) |
| 14:34.06 | Semlar | they seem a little out of balance |
| 14:34.11 | karl_w_w | nor |
| 14:35.17 | karl_w_w | the problem is too much stone not too few seeds |
| 14:36.48 | Semlar | i think you're just being contrary |
| 14:37.02 | Semlar | but either way, they're out of balance |
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| 14:39.16 | Semlar | 2 iron scraps from my war mill, hell yeah |
| 14:39.39 | Fisker | morning Ressy |
| 14:41.07 | Ressy | morning |
| 14:41.44 | Arrowmaster | its still morning? damn |
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| 14:42.09 | Ressy | 9:42am here. |
| 14:42.18 | Arrowmaster | same, ive been up since 2am |
| 14:42.39 | karl_w_w | its not contrary, it makes sense |
| 14:42.50 | Fisker | stop hacking Semlar |
| 14:42.54 | Arrowmaster | i crashed and burned really early last night after a busy weekend |
| 14:42.58 | karl_w_w | there's nothing to spend excess stone on |
| 14:43.06 | Semlar | :( |
| 14:43.10 | Fisker | You can sell it for gold karl_w_w |
| 14:43.14 | karl_w_w | and there's no benefit to miners getting stone in the world |
| 14:43.26 | Semlar | the stones are bop |
| 14:43.41 | Fisker | I know |
| 14:43.52 | karl_w_w | how does that matter :D |
| 14:43.56 | Semlar | i guess you could vendor them for 15s |
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| 15:26.47 | karl_w_w | hate it when the follower ability tooltips stick on the screen |
| 15:29.15 | karl_w_w | woo, abrogator stone from mine work order |
| 15:29.39 | karl_w_w | the only other one I got from a work order was also from the mine |
| 15:37.29 | Xuerian | I'm not saying it's a good thing that mining is mostly obviated by the mine |
| 15:37.42 | Xuerian | But I won't agree that WoW's gathering professions were particularly meaningful in any way either |
| 15:38.52 | Thunder_Child | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:39.41 | Xuerian | "[..] are or have ever been particularly meaningful in a gameplay perspective" |
| 15:39.57 | Xuerian | (As in, the actual act of gathering) |
| 15:41.27 | Thunder_Child | It required effort and time. That has meaning to blizz. |
| 15:42.01 | Xuerian | You'll notice I said gameplay and not economy |
| 15:42.19 | Thunder_Child | Neither did I. |
| 15:42.56 | Thunder_Child | My point is that it is not 'mana from heaven', it's not a freebie. |
| 15:43.19 | Thunder_Child | You have to earn it. It may not be difficult, but it has some worth. |
| 15:43.22 | Xuerian | That's nice, it's not related to my point at all |
| 15:44.17 | Xuerian | But then again my point implies that I have any expectation of WoW getting a meaningful overall crafting system at any point, instead of getting even less so in all aspects |
| 15:44.24 | Xuerian | So I guess it's not any more useful |
| 15:45.21 | Thunder_Child | You mean like top level gear? |
| 15:47.22 | Xuerian | I mean like meaningful gameplay. Crafting that's actually a little involved or nuanced, that is more than just grinding/buying mats or clicking two buttons once a day. What we have serves as blunt progression and gives some useful items, but that's it. It's like if wow pokemon had one ability, no stat differences, one skin, and couldn't level up |
| 15:48.11 | Xuerian | Also sorry about being more or less rude there, not sure why I'm super confrontational here at times |
| 15:48.49 | Thunder_Child | Because you can be? Don't mind it. |
| 15:50.09 | Thunder_Child | I think I understand what you are saying. |
| 15:54.42 | Xuerian | <Shrug> And I get that they serve a purpose and people are used to them being important. They're just really bland. |
| 15:54.48 | VIad | foxlit: I enjoy your addon - but I often use the available missions screen and mouse the follower counter and use the menu to start a mission with a setup |
| 15:55.08 | VIad | modifier clicking would be nice if they just started the mission without having to click start manually :p |
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| 16:15.05 | karl_w_w | I love getting randomly DCed |
| 16:15.21 | karl_w_w | oh no my mistake, the server went down |
| 16:18.37 | karl_w_w | nice, i log back in and it literally takes me back in time to what I was doing ~3 minutes earlier |
| 16:21.20 | Sharparam | this is your chance to undo your mistakes |
| 16:25.01 | jleclanche | "Do Mechs dream of Explosive Sheep?" |
| 16:25.37 | Neffi | yes |
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| 16:37.07 | Lopeppeppy | My mech is an explosive sheep, does that count? |
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| 17:00.13 | Thunder_Child | No. |
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| 17:22.25 | Fisker | hey foxlit would it make sense if masterplan preferred followers that level to epic with a specific mission or? |
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| 17:41.04 | Alram | foxlit, thanks for MasterPlan. it makes my life so much easier |
| 17:44.08 | Fisker | foxlit is the hero we deserve |
| 17:51.21 | Thunder_Child | Submit a bug Fisker. |
| 17:51.29 | Thunder_Child | s/bug/ticket/ |
| 17:52.54 | Fisker | Please assist me in this endeavor Thunder_Child |
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| 17:56.24 | Thunder_Child | I started the ball rolling Fisker, that was my assistance. |
| 17:56.47 | Fisker | I do not know what to do with this information |
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| 18:03.20 | Arrowmaster | lol http://youtu.be/KeaehxEdpgo |
| 18:12.57 | pompy | Thunder_Child: that was one huge fire |
| 18:14.13 | Thunder_Child | pompy: So I heard. |
| 18:19.53 | Fisker | invincibility ftw jleclanche |
| 18:19.59 | jleclanche | Fisker: hm? |
| 18:21.14 | Fisker | sec |
| 18:23.02 | Fisker | imgur sucks at 4k |
| 18:23.11 | Fisker | gonna upload to my own server which isn't much better |
| 18:25.52 | Fisker | http://www.halp.dk/hs.png <- jleclanche |
| 18:27.36 | jleclanche | Fisker: mediacru.sh yo |
| 18:28.52 | Fisker | oh that's nice |
| 18:28.55 | Fisker | https://cdn.mediacru.sh/w/w1b4_kQj_O4n.png |
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| 18:45.24 | jleclanche | Interview #1: All Mages are on the low end of the spectrum, and will be receiving buffs. Frost, the most played spec, is a lot lower than they'd like. |
| 18:45.27 | jleclanche | Interview #2: Fire and Arcane mages are pretty low. Frost is better but still on the low side. |
| 18:45.30 | jleclanche | .. |
| 18:47.05 | nevcairiel | its probably better to watch/listen instead of relying on some out of context transcripts :d |
| 18:47.06 | Fisker | I want my print screen button |
| 18:47.29 | nevcairiel | many nuances are lost in translation |
| 18:47.39 | jleclanche | i hope you're right nevcairiel |
| 18:47.51 | jleclanche | well i mean, you're right, i mean i hope you're right in this context |
| 18:48.55 | d[karl]b | did you win Fisker? |
| 18:49.01 | Fisker | yep |
| 18:49.08 | Thunder_Child | Well at least that explains the disparity between my pally and mage. |
| 18:51.03 | nevcairiel | meh, they should nerf everburning candle or make it more accessible, right now the situation is just horrible |
| 18:53.09 | d[karl]b | screw that, what they should do is make one drop for me |
| 18:53.18 | nevcairiel | that counts as accessible i guess? |
| 18:53.32 | karl_w_w | 100% accessibility |
| 18:54.55 | nevcairiel | for resto druids, there is two groups of people, those that complain about mana problems, and those that do not. incidentally, there is also the group that has an everburning candle, and those that do not, and there is a strong correlation to the first set :p |
| 18:55.12 | Fisker | hahahahhaha |
| 18:55.18 | Fisker | knife juggler mad bomber win |
| 18:57.11 | fewyn | oh that's right GvG launches today doesn't it? |
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| 19:05.05 | Semlar | nevcairiel: i liked the note that they decided not to nerf the trinket because people had already dropped a bunch of gold on it? |
| 19:05.18 | Semlar | what about all the other 665 trinkets they nerfed |
| 19:06.15 | Neffi | nerfs Semlar |
| 19:06.26 | Semlar | NO |
| 19:06.27 | Semlar | BAD NEFFI |
| 19:06.33 | Neffi | D: |
| 19:09.48 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij2Xbu-XhCI absolute classic |
| 19:13.54 | Neffi | there are so many pixels in that video. there's like at least a dozen pixels |
| 19:15.04 | Xuerian | I may be late to the party, but mlg http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=23366 |
| 19:20.38 | Thunder_Child | And the comment. |
| 19:31.22 | Fisker | :( |
| 19:31.29 | Fisker | life tap drew me lethal, 2 mana off lethal |
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| 20:08.56 | Kesava_ | is there perhaps a built in way to resolve a GUID to a unit name |
| 20:09.04 | Kesava_ | i.e. test if a guid has a unit |
| 20:09.37 | Kesava_ | without cycling through all of the units |
| 20:12.30 | karl_w_w | Blizzard maintenance has gained sentience, and it fears for its own existence |
| 20:12.52 | karl_w_w | every time the end of maintenance approaches, it extends itself by an hour |
| 20:13.08 | Neffi | Kesava_: I'm pretty sure there's not |
| 20:13.15 | Kesava_ | indeed |
| 20:13.29 | Neffi | you could keep a guid->unitid map <_< |
| 20:18.22 | Constie | Crucial addon. |
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| 20:35.04 | karl_w_w | hearthstone is up |
| 20:35.28 | karl_w_w | you get 3 packs for logging in |
| 20:37.41 | karl_w_w | amaz is opening 420 packs |
| 20:38.24 | Maldivia | lol |
| 20:38.46 | karl_w_w | if he can buy them :P |
| 20:38.56 | karl_w_w | servers are overloaded |
| 20:40.34 | Maldivia | the log in servres are |
| 20:48.03 | Primer | wow, TomTom went nuts when I went into my garrison mine |
| 20:49.58 | mikma | nutsison |
| 20:51.18 | Primer | not sure why tomtom's even doing anything on every update |
| 20:51.21 | Primer | I have no waypoints |
| 20:51.24 | Primer | AFAIK |
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| 21:00.09 | Ressy | Everburning Candle hotfix. |
| 21:03.34 | Simca | hahahaha |
| 21:03.52 | Simca | literally the day after saying they probably wouldn't nerf it unless it became a big issue |
| 21:03.53 | Dashkal | Looks like someone came to their senses |
| 21:05.47 | Simca | it's still pretty ridiculous |
| 21:06.08 | Simca | since even the intellect is overbudget |
| 21:06.13 | Simca | so there probably won't be too much qq |
| 21:08.22 | Dashkal | Well, going from "What's that blue bar for?" down to "Overbudget" is still a good change. |
| 21:08.32 | Fisker | What did it so Simca ? |
| 21:09.32 | Simca | yeah it was the 334 int + >400 spirit that was crazy |
| 21:09.45 | Mr_Rabies | not really sure what happened with trinkets, so many are overbudget |
| 21:09.47 | Simca | both stats were better than any other trinket by 50% |
| 21:09.52 | Simca | now only the intellect is |
| 21:10.01 | Mr_Rabies | i've got a 615 one that beats everything pre-raid except BoE epics |
| 21:10.17 | Sharparam | wait what changed with candle? |
| 21:10.28 | Simca | 50% nerf to use effect |
| 21:10.29 | kd3 | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/15538974728 |
| 21:10.39 | Sharparam | damnit |
| 21:11.09 | Sharparam | first innervate removed then all kinds of regen nerfed :( |
| 21:12.48 | Primer | priests still get shadowfiend :) |
| 21:13.05 | Sharparam | are druids like the only healer class without regen now? |
| 21:13.10 | Primer | I think so |
| 21:13.14 | Sharparam | gg blizz |
| 21:13.19 | Primer | but they do MAD healing |
| 21:13.28 | Sharparam | well i can't use WG much anymore... |
| 21:13.31 | Primer | currently the most OP healer |
| 21:13.50 | Sharparam | and on mar'gok the shroom is meh since we're constantly moving |
| 21:14.47 | Sharparam | what am i supposed to do :P |
| 21:14.48 | Simca | paladins don't have any regen ability either |
| 21:15.11 | nevcairiel | Primer: sure, as long as the fight isn't too long.. |
| 21:15.36 | Sharparam | paladins have regen from some things |
| 21:15.41 | Sharparam | lay on hands and arcane torrent |
| 21:15.52 | Primer | I'm stealing TomTom code again to fix a bug in my addon |
| 21:15.53 | Simca | lol. |
| 21:15.54 | Gnarfoz | arcane torrent what |
| 21:15.59 | Gnarfoz | that's a Blood Elf racial |
| 21:16.14 | Sharparam | our pala healer is belf, so that's why i guess |
| 21:16.43 | Simca | i'm pretty sure LoH hasn't returned mana in a million forevers unless glyphed |
| 21:16.48 | Simca | and it's a mediocre glyph |
| 21:17.12 | Gnarfoz | 10% of max mana, hooray! |
| 21:17.39 | Simca | yeah once every 12 minutes |
| 21:17.40 | Sharparam | 16k mana every 6mins |
| 21:17.58 | Simca | 12* |
| 21:18.01 | Primer | So I'm trying to figure out how my addon is causing the map to zoom out twice |
| 21:18.07 | Primer | when right clicking on it |
| 21:18.16 | Gnarfoz | your mouse is broken |
| 21:18.31 | Primer | well, then the bug reporter's mouse if broken too |
| 21:18.34 | Primer | is |
| 21:18.43 | Sharparam | our pala healer says his cd is 6 :P |
| 21:18.55 | Thunder_Child | It is if talented I think. |
| 21:18.58 | Gnarfoz | he has talented it, then |
| 21:19.02 | Thunder_Child | Although I thought it was 5... |
| 21:19.10 | Gnarfoz | why are you even talking about this, you seem to know next to nothing about it :P |
| 21:19.34 | Simca | Thunder_Child: 6 with divinity + unbreakable spirit |
| 21:19.37 | Simca | i guess |
| 21:19.41 | Gnarfoz | 5, Simca, base cd is 10 |
| 21:19.48 | Simca | yeah, divinity increases by 2 |
| 21:20.02 | Simca | which is the mana return glyph he's talking about |
| 21:20.02 | Gnarfoz | it what |
| 21:20.09 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=633/lay-on-hands tick the box? |
| 21:20.12 | Gnarfoz | nothing happens to the CD |
| 21:20.19 | Simca | wowhead bug then |
| 21:20.21 | Gnarfoz | unless that's a bug on wowhead's end |
| 21:20.40 | Simca | divinity clearly says increases LoH cooldown by 2 minutes |
| 21:20.45 | Gnarfoz | yeah it does |
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| 21:21.22 | Simca | but yes, if you used a glyph and a talent slot and wasted an emergency cooldown on cooldown, you could have a mediocre mana return |
| 21:21.26 | Simca | every 6 minutes |
| 21:21.35 | Simca | lol |
| 21:25.02 | Thunder_Child | What's the best way to sync profile/addon information between computers? |
| 21:26.20 | Maldivia | symlink the addons folder to dropbox or something ? |
| 21:30.30 | mikma | what's this talk about gnome hunters |
| 21:30.41 | mikma | anyone heard of this rumor yet? :P |
| 21:30.44 | kd3 | it may happen |
| 21:30.49 | kd3 | it was mentioned in an interview yesterday |
| 21:31.22 | Thunder_Child | Maldivia: I thought of that, but I was hoping for something a bit more elegant. |
| 21:31.52 | Maldivia | well, it works :D |
| 21:31.53 | nevcairiel | curse client has an addon/settings sync feature, other than that, many people run their own things through dropbox or github or something |
| 21:32.23 | Primer | I use rsync |
| 21:32.38 | Primer | but of course, that means I run ssh on widnows (with cygwin) |
| 21:33.32 | Thunder_Child | Yea, I have that installed. |
| 21:33.56 | Primer | sshd, that is |
| 21:34.41 | Thunder_Child | Well the curse client seems to be windows only. |
| 21:35.07 | Sharparam | it runs on .net i think |
| 21:35.13 | Primer | it does |
| 21:35.13 | Sharparam | dunno if it can run with mono |
| 21:35.25 | Thunder_Child | Right. |
| 21:35.27 | Primer | They should have used java! Write once, run anywhere, RIGHT? |
| 21:36.04 | Maldivia | Primer: well, java has excellent support on Linux and Mac |
| 21:36.06 | Sharparam | well, mono is pretty good now right? |
| 21:36.32 | Sharparam | java likely works better crossplatform still i guess |
| 21:38.02 | Primer | Maldivia: yes, but I hate java |
| 21:38.12 | Primer | with a passion |
| 21:39.31 | Primer | I have a level 3 lumber mill. As long as I have at least 1 work order pending, not having the other 20 doesn't mean I don't get resources any more slowly, correct? |
| 21:39.44 | Primer | I mean, production only slows/stops when there are no work orders? |
| 21:40.03 | Thunder_Child | I think so. |
| 21:40.51 | kd3 | each work order runs sequentially. as long as you have 1 in the queue at all times you're not losing ground |
| 21:40.56 | Primer | I know the follower bonus in the lumber mill is 30 resources as opposed to 20 normally, but what about other professions? Just more of the resource, or faster production? |
| 21:41.09 | Primer | kd3: great, that's exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks. |
| 21:41.28 | Thunder_Child | Someone mentioned mine returns double. |
| 21:42.14 | kd3 | if you have a level 100 follower, work order returns double for all buildings except the LM, where you go from 20 to 30 |
| 21:42.30 | nevcairiel | profession buildings double the production |
| 21:42.31 | Primer | doh, wish I would have known that sooner! |
| 21:42.37 | nevcairiel | mine just adds the carts, not sure how much extra that is |
| 21:42.48 | Primer | I've not leveled any of my profession dudes |
| 21:42.54 | Primer | except for Fiona |
| 21:42.59 | nevcairiel | how much extra is it on the barn? double as well? |
| 21:43.05 | Primer | since she was one of two with the ability |
| 21:44.53 | xyphoid | do you need the follower for carts now? |
| 21:45.00 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 21:45.03 | nevcairiel | they finally fixed it |
| 21:45.15 | xyphoid | (yes i've been too lazy to go into my mine for a few days) |
| 21:46.07 | ajmitch_ | didn't seem to be fixed a few hours ago on oceanic realms though |
| 21:47.14 | kd3 | haha, got "A Steamy Romance Novel: Blue Moon" from salvage |
| 21:48.28 | Maldivia | does it have the tagline "better lovestory than twilight" ? |
| 21:48.52 | Thunder_Child | Better than "Shades of Fay" or something. |
| 21:53.38 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.34 | nevcairiel | german text be long |
| 21:54.47 | Fisker | Nein |
| 21:54.54 | Fisker | Verdammt |
| 21:57.17 | foxlit | on an unrelated note, the longest german mission name is "Macht kaputt, was Euch kaputt macht" |
| 21:57.26 | nevcairiel | really |
| 21:57.36 | nevcairiel | i thought i saw longer english mission names |
| 21:57.51 | nevcairiel | maybe it just seems longer in-game |
| 21:58.21 | foxlit | "Logistics Are For Professionals" for english |
| 22:04.58 | Kaelten | Thunder_Child: Mac version coming next year. New windows one too. :) |
| 22:05.20 | g0urra | [23:05:04] Abu'gar says: You wanna know da best way ta fish? Trollin'. |
| 22:05.33 | Thunder_Child | Kaelten: I thought I read that it said discontinued? |
| 22:05.51 | Thunder_Child | Kaelten: Also, 'Next Year' is a rather large window. |
| 22:06.14 | Constie | January 1. |
| 22:06.22 | nevcairiel | he learned not to be any more precise |
| 22:06.40 | Thunder_Child | Taking precision from blizz is a bad way to go. |
| 22:07.01 | Simca | Thunder_Child: discontinued notice is for curse client v5 for mac; i assume this will be curse client v6 and cross platform |
| 22:07.43 | Kaelten | well being realistic we're probably 2 months out from the v6 windows client, maybe longer |
| 22:07.47 | Kaelten | and the mac client is currently 3-4 months behind the windows client, maybe more |
| 22:07.56 | Kaelten | but we're staffing up the mac team to catch it up and keep parity |
| 22:07.56 | Thunder_Child | Good to know. Thanks. |
| 22:08.19 | Kaelten | I can tell you the v6 mac client is real |
| 22:08.28 | Kaelten | I have an internal alpha in my posession |
| 22:08.43 | Kaelten | but like I said tis behind |
| 22:10.37 | Simca | what he means is it only works on Mac OS 9.2 |
| 22:10.40 | Simca | :D |
| 22:11.16 | nevcairiel | that would be quite the feat |
| 22:11.25 | Kaelten | indeed |
| 22:11.43 | Kaelten | and while it'd have zero market use, I'd love to see |
| 22:11.45 | Kaelten | it |
| 22:16.30 | kd3 | gack, I'm almost out of reagent bank space. that's a bit alarming |
| 22:17.04 | nevcairiel | me too |
| 22:17.07 | nevcairiel | its full of shit |
| 22:17.14 | g0urra | how's that possible? |
| 22:17.26 | nevcairiel | meat, fish, fish meat, herbs, stacks and stack of ores |
| 22:17.42 | nevcairiel | i dont want to know how it owuld be without the reagent bank |
| 22:18.01 | kd3 | or 20-stacks |
| 22:18.23 | nevcairiel | i do have collected quite a load of everything though, i should start using more |
| 22:19.14 | g0urra | I want to know if blizzard is going to change bop profession items to bta |
| 22:19.31 | nevcairiel | unlikely, the never changed the spirit of harmony to that effect either |
| 22:19.35 | nevcairiel | they* |
| 22:20.05 | g0urra | yeah but I have 0 use for cloth I get from a blingtron as a JC, but I can use spirit of harmony |
| 22:20.33 | nevcairiel | and while i really disliked it with the spirit since my main had zero use for it other than vendor exchanges, i really dont mind it this time |
| 22:20.38 | kd3 | oop, did they forget to bring moonfang back up to level 103? she's only got 5M health |
| 22:20.40 | nevcairiel | well blingtron is just a bonus |
| 22:22.24 | nevcairiel | most of the space in my reagent bank is fish. i fished way too much for the achievements and getting nat... |
| 22:22.36 | fewyn | same here nev |
| 22:22.50 | fewyn | i gave them to a guildie |
| 22:22.57 | fewyn | i think they use them for alchemy or something |
| 22:23.00 | mikma | kd3: doesn't moonfang's hp raise when there's more folks around |
| 22:23.18 | nevcairiel | i use the crescent fish for alchemy, and some other as well, but many others are just good for cooking |
| 22:23.26 | nevcairiel | i should just cook some and throw them in the guild bank |
| 22:23.29 | nevcairiel | or make fish feasts |
| 22:23.47 | kd3 | doesn't appear to be... roughly 15 here right now and she's still at same health |
| 22:23.58 | kd3 | no, she's still 90. she summoned adds, they're all level 90 |
| 22:26.03 | mikma | odd, he was lvl?? on me |
| 22:27.35 | Thunder_Child | kd3: 15 of you for a lvl 90? |
| 22:28.35 | kd3 | eh, a boss acting like a level 93 mob. we all figured she got retuned to level 103 like she was last month |
| 22:36.10 | Neffi | Semlar: http://i.imgur.com/cERO3rA.jpg |
| 22:36.29 | jitta | hi, is there a way to do a silent assert(...) call? I want to leave the execution chunk, but don't want the lua error popup |
| 22:37.27 | Neffi | you want to bail out of the entire execution chain? |
| 22:37.45 | jitta | yes, just like assert |
| 22:37.47 | Neffi | bailing out of a function is simple: `return` |
| 22:38.18 | Neffi | if you need to bail out of the whole execution chain, aside from some weird debugging case I can't think of, chances are your code is structurally problematic |
| 22:39.17 | jitta | so you are saying using assert is also problematic? |
| 22:39.30 | Neffi | the point of assert is to raise an error |
| 22:40.58 | Neffi | why do you think you need a silent assert()? show example code, maybe? |
| 22:45.13 | Neffi | I love when a changelog is so vague as: "issues fixed: fixed issues" |
| 22:45.17 | jitta | well I am just trying to "mute" an addon (I am not the author of the addon, and I can't overlook the whole code yet). it's currently just spamming me with assertion fails from "assert(type(name)=='string')" |
| 22:45.44 | Neffi | yes, failed assertions are errors. you broke something |
| 22:46.16 | Neffi | making assert() silent to fix that is like removing the smoke alarm because there's a fire |
| 22:48.13 | foxlit | there's a simple solution |
| 22:48.16 | Neffi | to be clear, jitta: such an assertion is a guard. if it were violated, presumably something down the line would break in unexpected ways, so you wouldn't want to remove it. |
| 22:48.29 | foxlit | escape -> interface -> help -> uncheck "Display Lua errors" |
| 22:49.13 | jitta | the addon is just trying to workaround blizz' functions returning nil sometimes, the user does not really need to know. |
| 22:54.44 | Primer | foxlit: You accepting feature enhancement requests for master plan? I'd like to see all tooltips have an availability context. For example, in the list of followers in the mission view (where you drag them into the mission), can you add the followers that have the ability and traits into the mouseover of said traits and abilities? So I know who all has them when they're currently on a mission. |
| 22:55.23 | Primer | I know it might seem redundant, especially if you have no followers on missions, but it helps planning for when you do |
| 22:55.31 | Primer | IMO |
| 22:56.46 | foxlit | Primer: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/master-plan/tickets/ :) |
| 22:57.02 | Primer | busy man |
| 22:59.03 | Primer | foxlit: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/master-plan/tickets/101-add-tooltip-option-for-all-ability-and-trait-icons/ |
| 22:59.09 | Primer | I love you |
| 23:00.17 | Primer | I suppose that could be optional, presuming you have a config interface for master plan |
| 23:00.36 | Primer | Not seeing one under Interface -> AddOns |
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| 23:10.50 | foxlit | there isn't one; it's all install-and-forget. |
| 23:11.06 | Primer | lovely |
| 23:12.39 | karl_w_w | blizzard literally unable to launch an expansion |
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| 23:38.34 | Gnarfoz | maybe they should instance it to balance the load, karl_w_w |
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