| 00:09.29 | Simca_ | does anyone know if being overitemleveled has a benefit on the mission? |
| 00:09.44 | Dagmar | A very slim one |
| 00:09.48 | Simca_ | i'm nearly ready (at last) to post my garrison research including formulas for success chance and xp |
| 00:10.11 | Simca_ | but i have formulas for underleveled, overleveled, and underitemleveled, but i've never seen an overitemleveled case |
| 00:10.20 | Dagmar | ...and I think it only affects ilevel restricted missions |
| 00:10.20 | Simca_ | it -probably- has no benefit. |
| 00:10.46 | Dagmar | I've got one follower at like 641 because I was trying to see that |
| 00:11.21 | Simca_ | if you could give me his success % on a level 615/630/600 mission you'd be my hero |
| 00:11.22 | Dagmar | I've flipped those guys around so many times everything's running together tho. |
| 00:11.36 | Dagmar | 19 followers at 100, 9 of 'em at 615 or better now |
| 00:13.33 | Dagmar | Lemme see what I can see. I think everyone's back at hte garrison now |
| 00:13.46 | Simca_ | that would be great |
| 00:14.14 | Simca_ | i have the rest of the formula already, so just a screenshot of a mission screen with a ilvl 641 guy in a slot of an ilvl 600 mission would prove/disprove everything |
| 00:14.34 | Simca_ | i could account for the mechanics/traits and then see if there is a difference from reality |
| 00:17.50 | Dagmar | Damnit. 1 hour and 14 minutes until Pinchwhistle gets back |
| 00:18.28 | Dagmar | But on the bright side, my guys just failed a 93% chance success rate mission with a goddamn 15k bonus XP award |
| 00:18.36 | Dagmar | Wait... |
| 00:18.46 | kd3 | been there, done that, threw something at a monitor |
| 00:18.59 | mikma | ouch for the monitor |
| 00:19.08 | mikma | lol to the fail |
| 00:19.20 | kd3 | it's one heading to the recyclers next week, so w/e |
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| 00:21.51 | Ressy | LOL |
| 00:21.58 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: http://i.imgur.com/ZmkHmHL.jpg |
| 00:23.32 | Iriel | 2 of them are off! |
| 00:30.44 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: No, This was just after I added the new monitor. I had to reactivate them. |
| 00:31.02 | Thunder_Child | They turned them selves off for some reason. |
| 00:32.34 | Iriel | Are those all driven by the same machine? |
| 00:34.35 | znf | Simca_, yes it has (the overlevel thingie) |
| 00:34.40 | znf | Simca_, I think foxlit said something about it |
| 00:34.49 | znf | like 0.05%/level? |
| 00:35.01 | znf | but, I'm drunk, so I can't remember:D |
| 00:35.54 | Simca_ | i think that was nevcairiel and he was talking about being underitemleveled |
| 00:36.38 | Dagmar | So... assuming some more freakin' 615 missions will show up, I should be able to see since Kimzee is actually 651 |
| 00:37.13 | Dagmar | I've pretty much been logging in every two hours to flip these (as long as I've been awake at the time) since this started |
| 00:41.37 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: Yes. |
| 00:41.47 | Thunder_Child | Including the TV on the wall |
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| 00:43.05 | Iriel | How many video cards? |
| 00:43.54 | Thunder_Child | 2 |
| 00:44.35 | Thunder_Child | GTX 570, 780. |
| 00:44.56 | Thunder_Child | I wanted to a get a 980 but I didn't see anything on sale so far. |
| 00:45.29 | kullervo | just wait for the next gen |
| 00:45.34 | kullervo | OC the 780 while waiting |
| 00:46.29 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/2014-11-30_02-46-27.png |
| 00:46.52 | Thunder_Child | kullervo: It was just realeased 2 months ago.... |
| 00:47.43 | kullervo | Thunder_Child: yeah but it's rumored the next serie will be released very soon |
| 00:49.47 | Thunder_Child | The next chip isn't supposed to come out till 2016. |
| 00:49.59 | kullervo | Oh it changed? |
| 00:50.00 | Amarande | the 900s aren't really that much better than the 700 series anyway, unless you want 60 FPS 4K on a screen that doesn't have DP |
| 00:50.18 | Amarande | (since atm they're the only GPUs with HDMI 2.0) |
| 01:05.25 | Thunder_Child | kullervo: "In March 2014, Nvidia announced that the successor to Maxwell would be the Pascal microarchitecture, due in 2016" *shrug* unless they plan on releasing another card with the same chip. |
| 01:06.03 | Thunder_Child | Amarande: Well I cant get 60 FPS on my 4k screen with DP. |
| 01:06.22 | Neffi | man. cousin asked me to fix their computer. USB ports weren't working, but electrically it was all functional. they said their friend who is an "IT pro" took a look at it and couldn't fix it. the shielding on the rj45 port was pried off, the motherboard is scratched, most brackets were bent, and the thing doesn't POST now |
| 01:06.36 | kullervo | Thunder_Child: ah you have 4k, then it might make a big enough difference |
| 01:06.46 | Neffi | I'm so glad he never followed through on his job offer at his "exciting new cloud business" |
| 01:06.58 | Neffi | I have a feeling my sanity would not have lasted |
| 01:08.59 | Amarande | T_C: weird ... DP should have been able to do that for a while, unless maybe your screen just isn't good enough |
| 01:09.16 | Amarande | either HDMI 2.0 or DP should do the trick (HDMI 1.4 has not got enough bandwidth) |
| 01:10.04 | Amarande | Neffi: good grief, that's almost like the smoking incident I read about |
| 01:10.37 | Amarande | this dude was called in to help someone with their computer because it wasn't working right anymore ... he opens the machine up and it's like, all full of this horrible, at the time he can't figure it out, BLACK GLOP |
| 01:11.03 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/arch.jpg |
| 01:11.07 | Amarande | of course it's a lost cause. so he rebuilds their computer and then a while later he's called in again because the computer's starting to not work right again |
| 01:11.37 | Cairenn | coffee holder? |
| 01:11.38 | Amarande | and he gets back and is starting to wonder ... until he sees that there is an ashtray on top of the computer and a line of visible smoke going from the lit cigarette to the intake fan on the PC ... |
| 01:11.40 | kullervo | foxlit: that one's from the inn? |
| 01:11.44 | Cairenn | ah |
| 01:11.45 | kullervo | the follower |
| 01:11.52 | foxlit | no |
| 01:12.02 | kullervo | Oh right it's the toy that comes from there |
| 01:12.10 | kullervo | hm.. some quest? |
| 01:12.24 | Amarande | so, you just toss followers any random weapon and armour piece (or maybe only a chest slot piece)? |
| 01:12.36 | Amarande | doesn't matter what the stats or weapon/armour types are at all? |
| 01:12.48 | Dagmar | The upgrade tokens only care about armor or weapon |
| 01:13.12 | Dagmar | ...although some simply *set* the item level to 615 or 630 |
| 01:14.01 | Dagmar | I would not suggest using say, Blackrock Armor that sets armor to 615 on someone who already has higher. |
| 01:14.08 | Dagmar | ...cuz it'll probably _let you_ |
| 01:14.15 | Amarande | So basically when you get one of those annoying quests that gives you choice of four useless pieces, if it's an ilvl increase you can just pick whatever and give it to the follower though, if I'm getting the right impression? |
| 01:14.24 | Amarande | Or are there special "follower weapon" and "follower armour" items you need? |
| 01:14.31 | Simca_ | special items |
| 01:14.31 | kd3 | http://www.wowhead.com/item=114128 |
| 01:14.33 | Dagmar | THey're on that screenshot |
| 01:15.07 | Dagmar | There's six types of gear enhancers, and as far as I can tell, four items that just set the followers weapon or item level to 615 or 630 |
| 01:15.23 | Dagmar | If I could give them MY gear, everyone would have 630 pants now |
| 01:15.26 | Dagmar | I just sold four pair |
| 01:15.50 | Simca_ | i have 7 pairs of 630 shoulders |
| 01:16.01 | Simca_ | i've done 10 heroics total |
| 01:16.06 | Dagmar | foxlit: I do like the strip at the top |
| 01:16.45 | Dagmar | I _was_ hanging onto a bunch of duplicate gear, because hunter attribute priorities are a mess, but then I decided it was too much trouble to give a fuck about |
| 01:17.19 | Amarande | yay, can roll on shiva now |
| 01:17.25 | Amarande | still can't roll on gilgamesh. think that's a lost cause. heh |
| 01:23.59 | Alram | so im getting this error only with tomtom, any idea what to do? http://marlamin.com/u/2014-11-30_02-23-02-220B93ZO.png |
| 01:24.20 | Alram | even if its the only enabled addon it wont load, other addons work fine |
| 01:26.14 | Alram | well itll load, but it still gives that error |
| 01:37.54 | foxlit | "Installing the addon via the Curse Client seems to always be installing version 0.3, no matter the preferred release type." < amusing. |
| 01:39.44 | Simca_ | somebody reported that earlier (installing a vastly outdated version) for a completely different addon |
| 01:49.31 | eyamaz | client seems to install an older version and then update to the newest version |
| 02:14.12 | Simca_ | Dagmar: can you get that screenshot of the high ilvl follower on a 600/615/630 mission now? |
| 02:14.39 | Simca_ | (just reminding since it has been over an hour and four minutes like you said earlier) |
| 02:15.27 | jleclanche | kd3: I'm getting far less weapon upgrades overall |
| 02:15.31 | jleclanche | than armor upgrades |
| 02:15.40 | jleclanche | I dont know if Im unlucky or if the stats are skewed |
| 02:17.30 | Simca_ | jleclanche: via missions or work orders from warmill or salvage? |
| 02:17.36 | jleclanche | Simca_: all three |
| 02:17.39 | jleclanche | overall |
| 02:18.02 | Simca_ | there are several missions that reward ilvl 615 weapons |
| 02:18.06 | Simca_ | none that reward ilvl 615 armor |
| 02:18.13 | Simca_ | that may be your difference |
| 02:18.37 | Simca_ | you can only get those from work orders (rarely) or salvage (ever rarer) or ilvl 615 missions (limited) |
| 02:19.26 | jleclanche | Simca_: you sure about that? |
| 02:19.31 | jleclanche | also im seeing the opposite |
| 02:19.54 | Simca_ | yes i am pretty sure |
| 02:24.34 | Simca_ | http://www.wowdb.com/items/114616-war-ravaged-weaponry#related:mission-reward-of |
| 02:24.38 | Simca_ | http://www.wowdb.com/items/114807-war-ravaged-armor-set |
| 02:26.03 | tlund | foxlit: thank you for Master Plan. thank you. <3 |
| 02:30.27 | foxlit | tlund: :) |
| 02:36.47 | jleclanche | foxlit: it is pretty fucking nice |
| 02:36.50 | jleclanche | my whole guild loves it |
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| 02:50.34 | Ressy | foxlit: https://twitter.com/vmaun/status/538831279119425536 |
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| 03:06.00 | Dagmar | I have nothing but a salvage yard and I've gotten the 615 tokens for both armor and weapons |
| 03:06.10 | Dagmar | One after the other went on Talonpriest Ishaal actually |
| 03:06.50 | Amarande | so moral of the story, build the salvage yard first? |
| 03:08.29 | Dagmar | If You->Crafting_Profession then no |
| 03:08.48 | Dagmar | Crafting hut first, then salvage yard if you've no personal preference for the other options |
| 03:09.11 | Dagmar | If you've an intention of making 640's for yourself, that crafting hut needs to be first |
| 03:09.45 | Dagmar | As soon as I get done going all these goddamn mount training missions (six a day is kind of gross) I'm chucking it for the bunker |
| 03:10.58 | Xuerian | What do the mount training missions do? |
| 03:11.07 | kd3 | gets you (eventually) 6 moutns |
| 03:11.11 | Dagmar | Make you run all over and kill a single mob while mounted |
| 03:11.38 | Dagmar | I would have already stopped doing them and said to hell with it, if I weren't collecting meat and fish along the way |
| 03:12.27 | Dagmar | I'm not sure if it's even possible to skip that first profession hut without throwing the 'build yer garrison' quest chain off the rails. The salvage hutch isn't important enough to risk the hassle |
| 03:12.46 | Xuerian | You can't build it until 96~ anyway.. |
| 03:12.47 | Dagmar | There's still a few points where you can paint yourself into a resource-bound corner with garrisons, especially if you use those XP potions |
| 03:13.04 | Dagmar | Xuerian: Cool |
| 03:13.31 | Dagmar | I plan on paying attention to what happens when on my other two toons. The primary toon was just a blur of pillaging and murder |
| 03:14.13 | Xuerian | Yeah, gotta be unlocked in skettis. |
| 03:14.13 | Dagmar | Thanks to my burning need for resources, I bought the treasure map for Talador just to discover I'd already looted the entire zone |
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| 03:19.54 | Sharparam | Xuerian: i skipped spires of arak questing initially and went talador -> nagrand, and had a quest at my garrison that puy you in pinchwistle that ends with unlocking the salvage yard |
| 03:19.59 | Sharparam | i'm horde, in case that matters |
| 03:20.12 | Sharparam | put* |
| 03:20.18 | Xuerian | Sharparam: Huh. Well. That'd do it. |
| 03:20.46 | foxlit | there's a higher-level breadcrumb in the garrison, but you should still probably head to Spires at 96 if you want to get it as fast as possible. |
| 03:21.19 | Xuerian | Yeah, I was mostly referring to the "Can I do it before my first profession building?" bit. |
| 03:22.08 | foxlit | I don't think it's actually gated on the main storyline, so you could just walk directly to those goblins. |
| 03:32.20 | Dagmar | Jesus Harold Christ. |
| 03:32.35 | Dagmar | I don't think I've ever seen an addon that saved me from more trivial bullshit than Master Plan |
| 03:33.10 | Dagmar | The only thing that comes close was that thing I had queueing the engineering subcomponents for awhile |
| 03:40.23 | Simca_ | Automaton comes close. or Minutiae i guess it is called now |
| 03:41.31 | Amarande | Spires of Arak I don't recognise from before ... I'm guessing that will be Netherstorm in the future? |
| 03:41.37 | Gnarfoz | huh... why does my follower not level up from mission base xp |
| 03:42.18 | Gnarfoz | stuck at 73xp remaining, sent him on a 500 base xp mission (failed), nothing happens? :\ |
| 03:43.09 | kd3 | no, spires of arak is the southern end of terokkar, most of which didn't survive the cataclysm |
| 03:43.25 | kd3 | farahlon becomes netherstorm, which isn't actually in game right now... |
| 03:54.49 | Amarande | yeah, I guess it mostly became Spiders of Arak, from my recollection of that part :) |
| 04:14.12 | Simca_ | haha i love masterplan's suggestions |
| 04:14.44 | Simca_ | suggested the optimal way to help power level one of my followers: http://i.imgur.com/GTcIfGS.jpg |
| 04:14.56 | Ressy | foxlit: https://twitter.com/devolore/status/538908874061774848 |
| 04:14.57 | Simca_ | 2x goblin bonus followers at 100 |
| 04:21.44 | Simca_ | well i'll be damned, i think there is an overitemleveled bonus |
| 04:21.48 | Simca_ | a very, very tiny one |
| 04:24.21 | Simca_ | this math should come out to 16.67% |
| 04:24.32 | Simca_ | but it says 17% in-game, and success numbers are -always- rounded down |
| 04:25.06 | Simca_ | so there is a ~0.33% to 1.32% bonus for it |
| 04:25.13 | Simca_ | (in this case) |
| 04:27.41 | Amarande | heh, remember though when the spiders in Terokkar were one of the most essential hunter pets in the game? :) |
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| 05:29.33 | Simca_ | wow there is some common sense to this system |
| 05:30.07 | Simca_ | underleveled: uses format of 3+(leveldiff)/3 |
| 05:30.34 | Simca_ | underitemleveled: uses format of 15+(leveldiff)/15 |
| 05:31.02 | Simca_ | overleveled: applies only to base 'presence' value for follower; uses format 6+(leveldiff)/6 |
| 05:31.24 | Simca_ | overitemleveled: applies only to base 'presence' value for follower; uses format 30+(leveldiff)/30 |
| 05:32.22 | Simca_ | s/common sense/a pattern |
| 05:32.26 | Simca_ | s/common sense/a pattern/ |
| 05:32.30 | Simca_ | damnit. |
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| 05:34.46 | Amarande | 12/2/2014 WoW Hotfix: "The players have been realising the formulae for this follower thing are reasonable and understandable. Changed them to include complex fractal formulae and Hamiltonians." :) |
| 05:35.03 | Dagmar | LOOOL |
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| 05:56.18 | jleclanche | travis irc notifications are neat |
| 05:58.39 | jleclanche | kd3: you asked about our realm's pet name and i never saw any for it but just now i saw it referred to as "Bloodgar / Khadhoof" in trade chat |
| 05:58.57 | jleclanche | whatever name that effect had |
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| 06:03.57 | Simca_ | too bad my realm (Malfurion) didn't get paired up with Stormrage |
| 06:04.14 | Neffi | lol |
| 06:04.32 | Simca_ | we got Trollbane instead |
| 06:05.22 | Neffi | Malfurion Trollbane. Has a ring to it |
| 06:06.16 | jleclanche | Simca_: that is just a crime |
| 06:06.52 | kd3 | not that stormrage us ever needed a merge |
| 06:07.15 | Simca_ | stormrage is alliance dominated, yeah? |
| 06:07.32 | kd3 | yep, it's pve |
| 06:07.56 | Simca_ | should merge it with illidan US regardless of the consequences |
| 06:08.03 | Simca_ | it's a match made in heaven |
| 06:08.37 | Simca_ | high pop 10:1 A:H ratio meets high pop 1:10 A:H ratio |
| 06:08.38 | jleclanche | isnt illidan us massively horde-dominated? |
| 06:08.42 | Simca_ | yes |
| 06:08.42 | jleclanche | haha |
| 06:08.52 | jleclanche | its kinda weird i knew that |
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| 06:58.12 | Kaelten | Wait it's Esamynn's birthday?!?! we need to get him some scotch |
| 07:00.50 | Cairenn | lol |
| 07:03.47 | Kaelten | Cairenn ;) |
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| 07:14.48 | karl_w_w | ohh goood world server is down |
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| 07:47.26 | jnwhiteh | Morning all <3 |
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| 07:48.55 | Cairenn | hi jnwhiteh |
| 07:50.00 | jnwhiteh | Cairenn: how are you? |
| 07:50.08 | Cairenn | pretty good |
| 07:50.13 | Cairenn | you? |
| 07:50.28 | jnwhiteh | good, jet-lagged at the moment |
| 07:50.35 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 07:50.41 | Cairenn | you need to do what I did last night |
| 07:51.03 | jnwhiteh | what's that? |
| 07:51.14 | Cairenn | slept for about 21 hours |
| 07:51.32 | Cairenn | straight |
| 07:53.21 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 07:53.27 | jnwhiteh | I suspect Tom might do that tonight |
| 07:53.47 | jnwhiteh | err today |
| 07:53.54 | jnwhiteh | we slept almost 10 hours already |
| 07:54.01 | Cairenn | I couldn't believe it when I woke up |
| 07:54.17 | Cairenn | I've slept for 12 or 14 before, when really tired, but not 21! |
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| 07:57.27 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 07:59.39 | karl_w_w | yeah 21 is quite a feat |
| 08:00.58 | Cairenn | I went to bed ~ 3:30pm Friday, woke up ~ 1:30pm Saturday |
| 08:01.04 | karl_w_w | there's something wrong with my minimap, sometimes things don't appear on it until I reload UI |
| 08:01.43 | karl_w_w | treasure locations and waypoints |
| 08:01.49 | karl_w_w | tracked things do |
| 08:02.11 | Semlar | vignettes shouldn't appear after you reload your ui |
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| 08:02.30 | Semlar | that was one of the most annoying parts of writing an addon for them, they don't show if you reload with them in range |
| 08:03.28 | karl_w_w | so you're saying this behaviour is opposite of what it should be? |
| 08:04.01 | Semlar | yeah, like if you had a skull on your minimap and then you reloaded your ui it would be gone until you ran way out of range of it and came back |
| 08:04.32 | Semlar | they don't seem to bother rescanning for them after a reload |
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| 08:13.00 | jnwhiteh | what is treasure? |
| 08:14.24 | jnwhiteh | 49.99 to upgrade to WoD? |
| 08:14.34 | jnwhiteh | A bit more than I expected |
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| 08:15.05 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: does the arrow reset when you reload |
| 08:15.10 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: or only when you logout? |
| 08:21.50 | g0urra | anyone horde EU wanna do garrison invasion? |
| 08:24.19 | jnwhiteh | anyone want to discuss maps/areas in WoW? |
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| 08:25.49 | karl_w_w | don't know jnwhiteh |
| 08:26.18 | karl_w_w | it doesn't happen every time, maybe 50% of the time |
| 08:26.42 | karl_w_w | treasure is random hidden packages out in the world |
| 08:26.58 | karl_w_w | when you finish a zone's quests you can get a map that adds all the locations to your map |
| 08:27.21 | Semlar | hides karl_w_w's package |
| 08:27.54 | Constie | Speaking of, is there a way to make those indicators consistently appear on your minimap? |
| 08:28.13 | karl_w_w | when i reload even treasure locations are shown straight away even if they are right next to me, Semlar |
| 08:28.35 | karl_w_w | yes, reload Constie |
| 08:29.07 | karl_w_w | reloading doesn't seem to be causing it, jnwhiteh |
| 08:29.23 | jnwhiteh | hrm okay |
| 08:30.47 | jnwhiteh | Whats the relation between "Areas" and "Maps" |
| 08:30.49 | jnwhiteh | O.o |
| 08:31.01 | Semlar | in what context |
| 08:31.36 | mikma | the map master is awake ;) goooooo semlar! |
| 08:31.56 | Semlar | the problem is people use the same terms to describe multiple different things |
| 08:32.43 | Semlar | i think of areas as the things that actually change the minimap text in-game |
| 08:34.30 | karl_w_w | so subzones |
| 08:35.40 | karl_w_w | although http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA |
| 08:35.45 | karl_w_w | Fires when the player moves between major zones or enters/exits an instance |
| 08:40.48 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/Ss0got9 |
| 09:11.13 | mikma | http://vimeo.com/112681885 |
| 09:15.04 | Simca_ | finally almost done with my garrison research post: http://i.imgur.com/iul7f2D.png |
| 09:15.10 | Simca_ | tomorrow is the day. |
| 09:15.22 | Simca_ | night! |
| 09:28.26 | Arrowmaster | what the hell amazon, i start typing in the search box and "se" gets me a strange autocomplete |
| 09:30.28 | pompy | "sexy lingerie"? eh. |
| 09:31.23 | pompy | Must be a popular item being searched lately! :o |
| 09:31.36 | pompy | by amazon users, lol. |
| 09:31.45 | Arrowmaster | "sexy lingerie for women for sex" |
| 09:31.51 | pompy | yeah |
| 09:32.20 | Arrowmaster | isnt the first two words enough? |
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| 09:45.21 | jnwhiteh | Is anyone able to reproduce the "TomTom/Astrolabe" errors in Garrison? |
| 09:45.29 | jnwhiteh | and willing to test a new version of Astrolabe for me? |
| 09:47.11 | jnwhiteh | no shit, Dreamhack is this weekend |
| 09:47.30 | jnwhiteh | sad I missed it! |
| 09:48.58 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: would this work for you? https://gist.github.com/jnwhiteh/a867549ca311bed9eb55 |
| 09:53.15 | karl_w_w | what errors? |
| 09:57.29 | mikma | bah, there's invisible forcefield blocking my way into Tanaan Jungle :( |
| 09:59.41 | karl_w_w | is there some easy way to check what version of a lib is running |
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| 10:01.19 | mikma | atleast LibStub has .minor |
| 10:01.55 | tz | mikma: struck that yesterday too :( |
| 10:02.38 | mikma | i was thinking that maybe if i go over it |
| 10:03.08 | tz | aviana's feather? |
| 10:06.51 | mikma | XD-57 "Bullseye" Guided Rocket Kit |
| 10:10.09 | karl_w_w | as far as I can tell astrolabe isnt even running even though I have at least 2 addons using it |
| 10:10.13 | karl_w_w | so whatever |
| 10:33.20 | VIad | any theories? http://ss.bool.no/upload_80e413a9.png |
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| 10:35.17 | VIad | on the minimap it seems it would connect from one end, a tunnel under water, into that cove, then jump down to get out |
| 10:35.20 | VIad | but there is no path :p |
| 10:38.00 | mikma | dun dun duuuuuuun. rares. |
| 10:38.55 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: wb! |
| 10:39.23 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: /dump DongleStub.log |
| 10:40.51 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: work for me how |
| 10:41.13 | jnwhiteh | how or now? |
| 10:41.18 | jnwhiteh | or what? |
| 10:41.25 | nevcairiel | i dont understand your question |
| 10:41.33 | jnwhiteh | okay, I'm planning on pushing an update to astroalbe inside tomtom |
| 10:41.42 | jnwhiteh | to fix the AddWaypoint/AddZWaypoint() issue |
| 10:41.43 | jnwhiteh | and it seems to |
| 10:41.59 | nevcairiel | also, i'm seriously considering replacing astrolabe, as not only is it not being updated, now even its svn is down |
| 10:42.20 | jnwhiteh | yeah I saw that today |
| 10:42.28 | jnwhiteh | could ask to take it over on curseforge, I'd work with you |
| 10:42.28 | karl_w_w | thanks jnwhiteh |
| 10:42.29 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* |
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| 10:43.11 | karl_w_w | so yeah what is the tomtom/astrolabe error |
| 10:44.09 | nevcairiel | i guess the C/Z mapping is the only thing you fixed so far in that version? |
| 10:46.33 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: yeah |
| 10:46.39 | jnwhiteh | are there other things to fix? |
| 10:48.00 | nevcairiel | it goes totally mad when you enter a cave or something like that, causing an endless WORLD_MAP_UPDATE spam since it tries to determine the position and fails, which can seriously eat into performance since it keeps redrawing nodes (and the nodes flicker on the minimap), so ideally it should be transitioned to UnitPosition |
| 10:51.40 | Semlar | yeah there's no reason for it to change the map to get unit positions any more |
| 10:51.57 | Semlar | although it shouldn't be failing |
| 10:52.23 | nevcairiel | its position grabbing function is like 50 lines long, there is probably some crazy shit in there somewhere |
| 10:52.41 | Semlar | i swear it was designed to bail out if it couldn't find what it was looking for |
| 10:52.51 | nevcairiel | isnt that failing |
| 10:52.59 | Semlar | it should be stopping |
| 10:53.18 | nevcairiel | all i know is that all astrolabe nodes start flickering terrible when i enter a cave |
| 10:53.24 | Semlar | although i guess if an addon keeps requesting the information it would keep spamming it |
| 10:56.04 | Elkano | btw, jnwhiteh, are you checking TomTom tickets on curseforge? |
| 10:56.12 | jnwhiteh | Elkano: I've been gone for two weeks |
| 10:56.20 | jnwhiteh | I also generally ignore the fuck out of curseforge |
| 10:56.29 | jnwhiteh | Elkano: feel free to ping me directly, I'm looking at things right now |
| 10:56.50 | Elkano | guessed so by the amount of open "new" tickets ^^ |
| 10:56.53 | mikma | nevcairiel: well you should create a "nevcaveiriel" library then |
| 10:57.41 | Elkano | had a one-time bug with the corpse arrow (others seem to have reported it, too): TomTom\TomTom_Corpse.lua:63 Usage: SetMapZoom(continentIndex [,zoneIndex]) .. requested continent out of bounds |
| 10:57.54 | jnwhiteh | yeah the corpse arrow is broken at the moment |
| 10:57.58 | jnwhiteh | what zone were you in that broke it? |
| 10:58.00 | mikma | jnwhiteh: what i saw was curse(forge) getting my addons same amount of downloads in a day than wowinterface got me in a month :P |
| 10:58.15 | jnwhiteh | Elkano: curseforge users are so. so. so. so. terrible at reporting bugs |
| 10:58.18 | jnwhiteh | mikma: yes, and the users are idiots. |
| 10:58.20 | jnwhiteh | all of them |
| 10:58.23 | jnwhiteh | ALL OF THEM |
| 10:58.29 | Torhal | TIL I'm an idiot. |
| 10:58.31 | Torhal | :/ |
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| 10:58.36 | mikma | jnwhiteh: you just insulted me. so we need to wrestle in a snow. |
| 10:58.53 | Elkano | wiped in Stonecore, so should have been Deepholm |
| 10:59.23 | jnwhiteh | Elkano: hrm, i dunno where that is |
| 10:59.26 | jnwhiteh | maybe i can figure it out later :P |
| 11:00.04 | Elkano | Stonecore is a Cataclysm instance, Deepholm is the zone it's in (you respawn at an outside graveyard, not the instance entrance) |
| 11:00.12 | nevcairiel | it seems to happen whenever you die in any instance for me |
| 11:01.10 | jnwhiteh | cool |
| 11:01.12 | Fisker | The amount of people who understand warlords of draenor is too damn low |
| 11:01.18 | jnwhiteh | should be easy to fix, then |
| 11:01.28 | Fisker | Someone said that the beast that is in ubrs is when the original one was young |
| 11:01.34 | Fisker | lol'd :( |
| 11:01.40 | nevcairiel | needs to be an "old" instance though, all new WoD instances simply respawn you at the door, you dont need to run in as a ghost anymore |
| 11:02.05 | nevcairiel | Fisker: it even says "son of the beast", how is that so hard to understand o.o |
| 11:02.07 | VIad | ubrs is our own timeline right after MOP |
| 11:02.13 | VIad | as the horde invade |
| 11:02.18 | Fisker | I don't think he had seen the name at that point nevcairiel |
| 11:02.33 | Mr_Rabies | maybe it's like metal gear |
| 11:02.45 | Fisker | I think it's kind of weird how some instances have like a waypoint system but others just put you back at the beginning |
| 11:02.49 | Mr_Rabies | there must always be a beast, and the beast's dad was also the beast while he was still around |
| 11:03.45 | nevcairiel | Fisker: most seem to put you at some waypoint eventually, in some the first waypoint is just way late in the dungeon |
| 11:03.55 | Fisker | ah |
| 11:04.03 | Fisker | I think after each boss makes well enough sense |
| 11:06.09 | nevcairiel | like in ubrs, the first way point is in the arena i think |
| 11:16.23 | nebula169 | really wish it would just put you at the last boss you killed |
| 11:32.48 | mikma | hmm |
| 11:33.01 | mikma | need an addon that tells me when other chars are getting garrison missions done |
| 11:37.16 | jnwhiteh | WTF is "checking residency" |
| 11:38.11 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: for the life of me I can't reproduce your issue |
| 11:40.00 | Sharparam | "Tip: Typing /macro will bring up the interface to create macros." |
| 11:40.02 | Sharparam | this changes everything |
| 11:42.16 | Mr_Rabies | do the secondary stats on a crafted item reroll when you upgrade them if they have random secondary stats? |
| 11:42.21 | mikma | sharparam: how's your wow-hacking going? |
| 11:42.38 | Sharparam | wow-hacking? |
| 11:43.39 | mikma | you know, the getting wow-guild chat out of game in real time |
| 11:43.56 | mikma | which might actually be possible :P |
| 11:44.05 | Sharparam | what |
| 11:44.14 | Sharparam | i've worked on that? |
| 11:44.31 | mikma | didn't you? or did i mess up you to someone else with disco-addon |
| 11:44.42 | Sharparam | disco-addon? :P |
| 11:45.03 | Primer | this is like who's on first, what's on second |
| 11:45.10 | mikma | then it was someone else. |
| 11:45.45 | Primer | W |
| 11:45.46 | Primer | T |
| 11:45.47 | Primer | F |
| 11:45.55 | Primer | Now something is automatically closing my windows |
| 11:46.05 | mikma | primer: automated update |
| 11:46.21 | Primer | any window. Trade window, bank window |
| 11:46.37 | mikma | something is pressing your esc |
| 11:46.42 | Primer | nope |
| 11:46.56 | Sharparam | i wish they would decrease work order time (and decrease yield to compensate) |
| 11:47.01 | Sharparam | it takes forever to get these achievs :/ |
| 11:47.51 | Primer | I can't do anything |
| 11:47.55 | Primer | all my windows keep closing |
| 11:48.29 | mikma | do /reload |
| 11:51.51 | Primer | You don't think I tried that? |
| 11:52.16 | Primer | restarted the game, restarted battle.net...only restarting the whole fucking computer fixed it |
| 11:54.55 | mikma | no, i think you didn't try that. |
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| 12:15.47 | karl_w_w | try to garrison hearth - [20:15:22] Additional instances cannot be launched, please try again later. |
| 12:16.46 | haste | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14446-InstancesFffffuuuuu.html you need this again! |
| 12:16.48 | haste | if it still works :P |
| 12:18.03 | karl_w_w | it turns out there are not a lot of quests in gorgrond |
| 12:18.36 | Mr_Rabies | one of my guildies is still getting "Transfer Aborted: Instance not Found" when trying to get to Dalaran by any means |
| 12:18.41 | Mr_Rabies | only Dalaran |
| 12:18.59 | Mr_Rabies | has been getting it since 6.0.2 dropped |
| 12:19.05 | karl_w_w | I dinged 94 not long after I got to gorgrond so I just moved to the next zone, went back to do the quests and there was basically nothing left |
| 12:19.37 | Mr_Rabies | i skipped talador entirely |
| 12:19.40 | karl_w_w | is he still on the dalaran event quest Mr_Rabies? |
| 12:19.45 | Mr_Rabies | turns out i probably should have skipped gorgrond |
| 12:19.55 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think so karl_w_w, it happens on any char on Llane/Arygos |
| 12:20.03 | karl_w_w | odd |
| 12:20.11 | Mr_Rabies | on Zul'Jin he can get there fine, so it's mixed with a different bunch of servers |
| 12:20.20 | karl_w_w | i didnt do a single dungeon when levelling so it wasn't really possible to completely skip a zone |
| 12:20.27 | Mr_Rabies | nor did i |
| 12:20.32 | Mr_Rabies | i still skipped talador |
| 12:20.38 | Mr_Rabies | but i did all the bonus objectives |
| 12:20.42 | Mr_Rabies | maybe that was it |
| 12:20.46 | karl_w_w | what if he is grouped onto another realm? |
| 12:20.59 | Mr_Rabies | probably would work, worth a try |
| 12:21.08 | karl_w_w | oh yeah i stopped doing the bonuses after the first zone I think |
| 12:21.19 | Mr_Rabies | as long as the grouped realm wasn't with any others in -our- dalaran |
| 12:21.23 | nevcairiel | the bonuses yield much higher xp than normal quests, skipping them is stupid :p |
| 12:21.51 | Mr_Rabies | i should have probably skipped them tbh, except they have achievements |
| 12:22.02 | Mr_Rabies | because i missed an entire zone because of them, basically |
| 12:22.13 | nevcairiel | eh, its a choice to skip a zone |
| 12:22.27 | Mr_Rabies | i actually barely did nagrand either |
| 12:22.47 | Mr_Rabies | i ended up just finishing up nagrand for story and quest upgrades |
| 12:23.02 | karl_w_w | i made 6 darkmoon cards and it gave me 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 of visions |
| 12:23.10 | Mr_Rabies | not bad |
| 12:23.26 | karl_w_w | as long as you don't get iron cards you're set :P |
| 12:23.39 | karl_w_w | they are super cheap in comparison on my realm at least |
| 12:23.44 | Mr_Rabies | how expensive are the cards paints/mats wise? working on it on my scribe alt |
| 12:23.58 | Mr_Rabies | but not enough secrets to get the pattern yet |
| 12:24.18 | karl_w_w | just 10 paints each |
| 12:24.22 | Mr_Rabies | not bad |
| 12:25.18 | Mr_Rabies | man, really hoping enchanting mats get another look before tuesday |
| 12:25.28 | Mr_Rabies | really don't wanna spend 20k+ enchanting blues :| |
| 12:26.13 | nevcairiel | before tuesday? keep dreaming |
| 12:27.23 | Mr_Rabies | they're way too damned expensive still |
| 12:27.33 | Mr_Rabies | considering how rare crystals are |
| 12:28.13 | karl_w_w | it's some kind of cruel joke that weapons and trinkets are the hardest things to get from heroics and they're the things you can't buy with crystals |
| 12:29.00 | karl_w_w | I've never hated the gearing experience before |
| 12:29.02 | Mr_Rabies | i meant enchanting crystals |
| 12:29.03 | Mr_Rabies | but |
| 12:29.07 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, that too |
| 12:29.46 | Mr_Rabies | like, i've been doing every work order i've had mats for since WoD launched and i'm still not sure if i have enough crystals for enchanting all my gear |
| 12:30.28 | karl_w_w | im just not bothering |
| 12:30.40 | karl_w_w | I really can't be fucked enchanting things |
| 12:30.45 | nevcairiel | the bigger enchants are supposed to be rather expensive |
| 12:30.54 | Mr_Rabies | our guild is asking for enchants but it's not really feasible |
| 12:30.58 | nevcairiel | and the small enchants are cheap enough to spread them on every piece of gear you find |
| 12:31.22 | Mr_Rabies | they're also pushing for darkmoon cards, etc |
| 12:31.31 | nevcairiel | darkmoon trinkets suck though |
| 12:31.39 | Mr_Rabies | i'm an assistant GM so i can veto a lot but |
| 12:31.45 | karl_w_w | all the trinkets suck |
| 12:31.45 | Dagmar | I think they only way we'll be able to afford those is with the introduction of the Garrison Brothel in 6.1 |
| 12:31.52 | Mr_Rabies | i don't want to be seen as the guy holding us back |
| 12:32.03 | Mr_Rabies | i have a 615 trinket that's absolutely due for a hotfix |
| 12:32.06 | Mr_Rabies | it's gonna happen anytime |
| 12:32.21 | Mr_Rabies | it's better than all the pre-raid trinkets sans the upgraded DMF trinket |
| 12:32.40 | Mr_Rabies | like |
| 12:32.48 | Mr_Rabies | it's better than the first DMF trinket |
| 12:33.04 | Mr_Rabies | and it's 615 ilvl. |
| 12:33.51 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.wowhead.com/item=114427 |
| 12:34.40 | Mr_Rabies | i won't even mind when it happens, because it's that overdue |
| 12:34.50 | Mr_Rabies | no reason for a 615 to be that near to current BiS |
| 12:35.00 | Mr_Rabies | (until raids open ofc) |
| 12:35.26 | karl_w_w | can you imagine trying to get your followers to 615 ilvl without salvage? |
| 12:35.31 | p3lim_ | Does wintergrasp work for any of you? It's been like this since 6.0 for me http://i.imgur.com/flOY3eL.jpg |
| 12:35.34 | karl_w_w | it just wouldn't happen |
| 12:35.46 | Mr_Rabies | how do you get them there without salvage and bunker? |
| 12:35.54 | Mr_Rabies | because that's what i'm rolling with now |
| 12:36.01 | p3lim_ | No npcs, no buildings, no instance portal to VoA |
| 12:36.14 | karl_w_w | you just wait for missions that reward follower gear |
| 12:36.16 | nevcairiel | p3lim_: worked for me some weeks ago, before the WoD launch, but at 6.0 |
| 12:36.44 | karl_w_w | bunkers give follower gear? |
| 12:36.49 | Mr_Rabies | yup |
| 12:36.55 | Mr_Rabies | in the work orders |
| 12:37.01 | Mr_Rabies | gotten quite a few nice ones |
| 12:37.25 | karl_w_w | oh yeah |
| 12:37.29 | p3lim_ | People in my guild have been able to get in and at least do VoA or see the vendors, so I might suspect it doesn't like monks |
| 12:37.30 | nevcairiel | i got a 645 armor token from salvage this morning, i think its finally time to push a group of followers to 630, should have enough tokens saved |
| 12:37.44 | Mr_Rabies | i've got like 4 around 63-645 |
| 12:37.45 | karl_w_w | spend resources for gear, sounds like a terrible idea :P |
| 12:37.51 | Mr_Rabies | 630-645 |
| 12:37.54 | p3lim_ | I got a 645 epic neck from salvage :D |
| 12:38.03 | Mr_Rabies | it's not too bad, i'm swimming in resources more or less, karl_w_w |
| 12:38.06 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: what else is one to use resources on |
| 12:38.11 | Mr_Rabies | less so now that i removed my stables |
| 12:38.19 | Mr_Rabies | but i didn't see a point in keeping the stables after getting my mounts |
| 12:38.33 | Mr_Rabies | the dailies stopped coming as i got each mount trained up |
| 12:38.36 | nevcairiel | the stables dont reward resources anymore after all the quests are done anyway |
| 12:38.41 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 12:38.47 | nevcairiel | i replaced it with a bunker at that point |
| 12:38.53 | Mr_Rabies | replaced mine with a barracks |
| 12:39.02 | Dagmar | I plan on doing the very same thing |
| 12:39.04 | nevcairiel | yeah i had those all along |
| 12:39.08 | Fisker | How do invasions work btw? |
| 12:39.16 | Fisker | Killed everything still only got silver though |
| 12:39.19 | karl_w_w | nevcairiel, upgrading buildings |
| 12:39.25 | Mr_Rabies | i tore down my barracks and built the stables, then replaced it with a barracks again later |
| 12:39.27 | Fisker | I guess the speed of which you kill it gives you more shit to kill? |
| 12:39.29 | Mr_Rabies | but my stables was only lv1 |
| 12:39.40 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: everything on 3, except the 2 which i lack achievements for (which is storehouse and trade post) |
| 12:39.40 | Mr_Rabies | no reason for 2+ right now |
| 12:39.42 | Dagmar | Fisker: Maybe get two BM hunters to back you up |
| 12:39.55 | karl_w_w | no idea how you're getting that many resources nevcairiel |
| 12:40.04 | Dagmar | Fisker: I helped a guild mate with it the other night and we somehow got only silver, despite no one falling over at all |
| 12:40.10 | karl_w_w | I have collected most of the treasures and i still dont have enough |
| 12:40.19 | nevcairiel | a bunch of scavengers running 130 GR missions for a 390 payout :d |
| 12:40.22 | karl_w_w | i have a level 3 lumber mill with the dude |
| 12:40.38 | karl_w_w | i've nearly finished the stables missions |
| 12:40.41 | Mr_Rabies | phylarch is pretty buggy in my garrison, same for you guys? |
| 12:40.49 | Mr_Rabies | he just slowly backs up into my inn and twitches in there |
| 12:41.00 | nevcairiel | yeah hist movement is kinda broken |
| 12:41.00 | karl_w_w | i havent seen that |
| 12:41.05 | Dagmar | karl_w_w: Maybe this week pick a follower who can increase the return on resources? The stables *do* hand out a bunch while the dailies are going on tho |
| 12:41.14 | karl_w_w | but he will do his green line thing from really far away |
| 12:41.17 | Mr_Rabies | he still does what he's supposed to when assigned, but really buggy animation wise |
| 12:41.21 | nevcairiel | i replaced my LM with TP now, same GR rewards and i finished all LM achieves |
| 12:41.34 | Mr_Rabies | he casts it, then turns around walks, turns back around and casts it again |
| 12:41.37 | karl_w_w | don't know what you mean dagmar |
| 12:42.02 | Mr_Rabies | really, same GR rewards? what do you do to get GR from TP? |
| 12:42.12 | nevcairiel | feed it resources |
| 12:42.24 | Dagmar | When you have the stables, you will wind up getting six mount training dailies per day that also award resources |
| 12:42.28 | Mr_Rabies | feed it GR and get GR? |
| 12:42.30 | nevcairiel | i usually fill the work order queues on days it takes ore or flowers, skip the days it wants dust |
| 12:42.31 | Mr_Rabies | what kinda voodoo is that |
| 12:42.37 | Mr_Rabies | oh |
| 12:42.45 | Mr_Rabies | no thanks, i'll use all my resources :p |
| 12:42.54 | Mr_Rabies | trees are basically free |
| 12:42.55 | nevcairiel | you dont have 2000 ore of each type in your bank? |
| 12:43.00 | nevcairiel | because i do |
| 12:43.01 | Mr_Rabies | i do, but i'm an engineer |
| 12:43.07 | Fisker | I've not gotten garrison resource missions for like 2-3 days now |
| 12:43.11 | Mr_Rabies | i'll use it |
| 12:43.22 | nevcairiel | you produce more than the cooldown and work orders consume :p |
| 12:43.22 | karl_w_w | I'd prefer to turn free trees into GR and turn ore into gold |
| 12:43.26 | Fisker | went out for rares yesterday just to survive |
| 12:43.36 | karl_w_w | because you know gold is useful, trees are not |
| 12:44.11 | Mr_Rabies | for now, nevcairiel, but the mines are definitely drying up a lot recently |
| 12:44.20 | karl_w_w | they nerfed them |
| 12:44.36 | nevcairiel | i also have mines on 3 alts so far, so ore is not a problem in any case |
| 12:44.54 | Mr_Rabies | when do mines open up again? |
| 12:44.57 | nevcairiel | 92 |
| 12:44.58 | Mr_Rabies | 93? |
| 12:45.09 | Stanzilla | they nerfed the ore gain from mines though |
| 12:45.13 | Mr_Rabies | hmm, my lock is 92 but i'm still stuck in the babby garrison |
| 12:45.14 | nevcairiel | its still plenty |
| 12:45.18 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 12:45.24 | Stanzilla | but not omglolwtf plenty like before |
| 12:45.34 | nevcairiel | yeah you need the garrison 2 to unlock it, which is just a specific quest chain to follow |
| 12:45.45 | Mr_Rabies | guess i'll look into it tomorrow |
| 12:45.55 | Mr_Rabies | or just stay in my garrison and slowly level with xp missions |
| 12:45.56 | Mr_Rabies | :v |
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| 12:46.05 | karl_w_w | the game is playing some kind of joke on me, I keep getting missions that reward gold |
| 12:46.10 | Mr_Rabies | at 93 i get garrison v2 anyway |
| 12:46.21 | Mr_Rabies | those gold missions are such a waste of time |
| 12:46.36 | Mr_Rabies | oh yes 10 hours for 100 gold great deal Great Deal GREAT DEAL |
| 12:46.36 | karl_w_w | i got a few guys up to 630 to try and get better missions, first one it offers me is for gold |
| 12:46.57 | karl_w_w | only 8 hours for 100g though! |
| 12:47.02 | Mr_Rabies | they're really only worth it for the base xp |
| 12:47.18 | Mr_Rabies | i just throw extra followers on those to clear them and get base xp |
| 12:47.26 | karl_w_w | im not a lunatic, im not gonna upgrade my non-epic followers to 630 |
| 12:47.42 | Mr_Rabies | i upgraded a few blues to around 630 |
| 12:47.49 | Mr_Rabies | but they're almost epic now |
| 12:48.00 | Mr_Rabies | i need to farm more epic ones but eh |
| 12:48.10 | Mr_Rabies | i'm missing meatball, leeroy, croman |
| 12:48.15 | Mr_Rabies | at least |
| 12:48.19 | Mr_Rabies | of the free epics |
| 12:48.28 | Mr_Rabies | oh and vargoth, if he's epic |
| 12:48.39 | karl_w_w | and the base xp is a pittance anyway |
| 12:48.49 | karl_w_w | its like 100 missions to level them off that stuff? |
| 12:49.29 | Mr_Rabies | now, i know followers being under ilvl hurts the completion bonus or removes it |
| 12:49.37 | Mr_Rabies | but does it act like levels where it also hurts their xp? |
| 12:50.04 | Mr_Rabies | so long as they're on-level xp wise? |
| 12:50.20 | karl_w_w | i think so |
| 12:50.42 | Mr_Rabies | that system is kinda lame and counterintuitive i think |
| 12:51.03 | Mr_Rabies | really, you should be rewarded for trying harder missions on lower level followers |
| 12:51.37 | Mr_Rabies | other than the rare patrol mission, even the 50% less xp bonus is rarely worth dealing with |
| 12:52.34 | Mr_Rabies | and the 10% one is just laughable |
| 12:52.58 | karl_w_w | ohh good another failed load-into-garrison, this time from leaving a heroic |
| 12:53.48 | karl_w_w | the only not-annoying part of the expansion so far is the dungeons themselves |
| 12:54.17 | karl_w_w | [20:54:11] Additional instances cannot be launched, please try again later. |
| 12:54.21 | karl_w_w | aww yes feels so good |
| 12:55.32 | mikma | no soup for you |
| 12:59.50 | karl_w_w | maybe if i can finally get the RNG to make my inn level 3 I will get better missions |
| 13:00.13 | karl_w_w | despite all previous experience, I will believe things can get better! |
| 13:04.17 | karl_w_w | most of the time i go to the lumber mill and the workers are just standing there doing nothing |
| 13:04.21 | karl_w_w | bunch of slackers |
| 13:04.40 | karl_w_w | no longer it takes them 4 hours to cut up a few trees |
| 13:04.44 | mikma | you need http://www.wowhead.com/item=7682 |
| 13:04.59 | karl_w_w | s/long/wond/ |
| 13:05.00 | karl_w_w | weird |
| 13:05.14 | karl_w_w | sounds like a plan |
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| 13:09.47 | karl_w_w | fishing in your garrison doesnt give you skill |
| 13:12.12 | Fisker | it does if you can catch fish in it at least |
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| 13:26.50 | znf | karl_w_w, yes it does |
| 13:27.05 | znf | guildie leveled in it >_< |
| 13:30.29 | znf | I seriously don't understand the bodyguards |
| 13:30.37 | znf | The only good one is Vivianne on Horde |
| 13:30.42 | znf | all others just... die |
| 13:30.52 | znf | I go to Shattrath with them, I land, kill 2 mobs, they die |
| 13:31.08 | znf | Vivianne? Like a champ, never dies |
| 13:34.35 | Fisker | Marry her |
| 13:59.36 | karl_w_w | well i fished in there a few times and got no skill |
| 14:06.07 | mikma | karl_w_w: fishing in your garrison DOES give you skill. |
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| 14:09.12 | karl_w_w | down to 7 total missions |
| 14:09.23 | karl_w_w | 5 in progress 2 im never going to do |
| 14:09.40 | karl_w_w | well i guess one i might do |
| 14:12.22 | znf | all the missions I have available now are 8+ hours |
| 14:12.24 | znf | I have 10 of them |
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| 14:44.21 | zenzelezz | they probably also give you about 30g reward, or something awesome like that |
| 14:49.08 | nevcairiel | znf: thats probably your own fault because you dont do them |
| 14:49.26 | znf | zenzelezz, most are low level, yes :( |
| 14:49.49 | znf | most are actually with 630 gear or 615... |
| 15:01.03 | karl_w_w | i wonder why they didnt also squish gold with the stat squish |
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| 15:13.35 | karl_w_w | hmm my second abrogator stone quest has appeared but i cant do better than 72% chance |
| 15:15.07 | jleclanche | fireplace, my hearthstone simulator, is the best TDD experience I've ever had |
| 15:15.08 | karl_w_w | mission |
| 15:15.31 | jleclanche | it's amazing having tests pass when you expect them to pass, tests fail when you expect them to fail, etc |
| 15:16.52 | jleclanche | it's also really amazing to write one line of code to implement something like illidan stormrage, and have it work exactly the way you expect it to, interacting with spells and other minions properly, etc |
| 15:16.56 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: https://github.com/jleclanche/fireplace/commit/bb9332e450ebbfdd141c24ae8a37a09251fb550b |
| 15:19.40 | karl_w_w | illidan schmillidan |
| 15:21.02 | jleclanche | cmon, isnt it awesome? |
| 15:25.12 | karl_w_w | I don't know :P |
| 15:25.51 | karl_w_w | and hearthstone doesn't have a graveyard yet |
| 15:30.55 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/LBkR3hg |
| 15:33.22 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 15:37.30 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: hearthstone has a graveyard zone |
| 15:37.35 | karl_w_w | "I bought six of these and built a half pipe so my kids could use their skateboards. It has been working out great. Oh yeah...and the picture is great too! I play Tony Hawk videos while they are skating on them." |
| 15:37.38 | jleclanche | whether it has one or not in the game itself is irrelevant |
| 15:40.32 | karl_w_w | if it doesn't have one in the game where does it have one? |
| 15:44.08 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: ping |
| 15:45.19 | jleclanche | !api web |
| 15:48.13 | karl_w_w | I just love the stupid tales people weave |
| 15:48.19 | karl_w_w | What a disaster. I bought this as a monitor for my Asus Chromebook. There was a problem with the scaling though, and I could never get to the bottom of it... I always had to use a little stepladder to see the address bar on google chrome, otherwise i couldn't navigate to the page I wanted. Apart from that, most of the screen was just a blinding bright white, so I had to wear sunglasses while I worked/browsed. I fell off the |
| 15:48.19 | karl_w_w | ladder once or twice, no big deal. At some point an adware extension must have gotten on my chrome.... Yesterday a pop up flew at me while I was on the ladder and I fell halfway across the room. My Chromebook is smashed!! What the hell am I going to do now, I have this lovely monitor and no Chromebook to use it with. |
| 15:49.04 | jleclanche | Dagmar: https://pay.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2nsaow/linux_mint_171_rebecca_released/cmglgjn?context=2 |
| 15:50.47 | fewyn | (â¯Â°â¡Â°ï¼â¯ï¸µ â»ââ» bonus armor on my necklace i just crafted (and again when i rerolled it) |
| 15:55.46 | fewyn | took 3 rerolls to get "decent" stats on it |
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| 16:09.20 | zenzelezz | this must be old, but meh... http://www.reshareworthy.com/50-most-perfectly-timed-photos/ |
| 16:14.26 | Constie | Well it is worthy of resharing. |
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| 17:00.35 | Arrowmaster | jleclanche: you can stop using pay.reddit.com for https now you know |
| 17:39.04 | Kraps | what is pay.reddit.com |
| 17:39.23 | nevcairiel | it used to be the only domain which did https |
| 17:39.31 | Fisker | was it released on black friday jleclanche? |
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| 18:03.23 | karl_w_w | I sure hope so Fisker |
| 18:19.03 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: i want to |
| 18:19.12 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: but i cant, https everywhere is redirecting me |
| 18:30.53 | Sharparam | oh |
| 18:30.57 | Sharparam | my bodyguard just died |
| 18:31.01 | Sharparam | you get a debuff |
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| 18:57.42 | kullervo | Sharparam: I think once I died but the bodyguard should've been fine, got the debuff :( |
| 19:02.08 | kullervo | I wonder if there's a healer follower |
| 19:05.13 | fewyn | god damn level 3 larges are so expensive |
| 19:05.16 | fewyn | 1200 resources |
| 19:05.33 | fewyn | barracks is upgrading tho |
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| 19:12.40 | karl_w_w | 2 of my stables pets are taking longer than the others to train |
| 19:12.52 | karl_w_w | s/pet/mount/ |
| 19:13.10 | fewyn | karl_w_w that's how it works |
| 19:13.26 | fewyn | they are staggered like that for some reason |
| 19:15.58 | zenzelezz | it's like in school, someone just needs a little longer than the rest |
| 19:16.54 | karl_w_w | if only they'd apply themselves |
| 19:17.03 | karl_w_w | they're holding back the rest of the class |
| 19:17.28 | Dagmar | If they had a progression counter of some kind it would be helpful |
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| 19:26.45 | Simca_ | foxlit: http://i.imgur.com/v5XWTRH.png |
| 19:27.03 | Simca_ | probably isn't availability time in that db2 column. |
| 19:27.28 | Simca_ | back to the cooldown time theory i guess |
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| 19:31.34 | Simca_ | actually |
| 19:31.35 | Simca_ | shit |
| 19:31.58 | Simca_ | what if the mission expired while you were offline, and then you got it again |
| 19:32.12 | Simca_ | the only identifier is missionID, right? which isn't a unique tag. |
| 19:32.21 | Simca_ | there would be no way to know what had occurred. |
| 19:33.33 | foxlit | right. |
| 19:52.22 | jleclanche | what's the "Pending" bit of Master Plan? |
| 19:52.39 | Simca_ | time before the mission expires |
| 19:52.57 | jleclanche | oh |
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| 20:09.20 | foxlit | can I control line spacing within a fontstring? within a subset of a fonstring? |
| 20:09.45 | Shirik | http://i.gyazo.com/3188b17c16254809e546a3c7c3ad4b3b.png |
| 20:09.55 | Shirik | secretly hoping this means I have chance to be upgraded to pilot's seat |
| 20:16.02 | Fisker | A redirect loop? |
| 20:23.40 | Gnarfoz | redirect loops fulfill wishes |
| 20:28.18 | mikma | shirik: The page isn't redirecting properly |
| 20:28.32 | Shirik | o.O |
| 20:28.35 | Shirik | works for me |
| 20:30.15 | Trela | Works fine here. |
| 20:30.21 | foxlit | http://pastebin.com/zeWYd5fS your CDN is bad and you should feel bad. |
| 20:30.57 | Gnarfoz | gyazo weirdest image host ever |
| 20:31.03 | mikma | public blaming. the best kind of blaming. |
| 20:31.18 | mikma | shirik: http://pasteboard.co/ |
| 20:44.55 | Sharparam | http://rfl.im/7Z |
| 20:45.07 | Sharparam | i save (not) money in a different currency |
| 20:45.45 | karl_w_w | anyone got a floor in gothenburg and don't mind risking being stabbed to death by strangers? :P http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2nuwsj/xpost_from_rsc_dear_rdota2_a_friend_and_i_are/ |
| 20:54.48 | foxlit | http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/19116/FloatingGarrisonFollowerTooltip.lua#315 << whyyyyy. |
| 21:04.27 | Thunder_Child | Because it makes you unhappy? |
| 21:07.13 | foxlit | I don't particularly care, it's a two-line override for me. |
| 21:12.04 | Shadowed | foxlit off the top of your head do you know what events fire when you swap out followers on missions |
| 21:12.14 | Shadowed | I assume it's GARRISON_FOLLOWER_LIST_UPDATE/GARRISON_FOLLOWER_REMOVED |
| 21:12.52 | foxlit | just the first one. |
| 21:13.07 | Shadowed | awesome |
| 21:13.47 | foxlit | contextual history suggests you should just borrow my code :) |
| 21:13.55 | Shadowed | whys that |
| 21:14.12 | Shadowed | I'm writing a better GMM, not another Master Plan :P |
| 21:14.19 | foxlit | MP is a better GMM. :) |
| 21:14.29 | Shadowed | MP doesn't do the brute forcing part afaik |
| 21:14.37 | foxlit | as of 0.8, it does. |
| 21:15.05 | Shadowed | oh god |
| 21:15.07 | Shadowed | you added the LFG eye |
| 21:15.15 | foxlit | in any case, it's the combination of figuring out which frames are registered for an event and suppressing GFLU while spamming it. |
| 21:15.23 | Shadowed | oh that pat is easy |
| 21:15.24 | Shadowed | part* |
| 21:16.03 | Shadowed | and yes, in that case I'll do something better than MP too :P |
| 21:16.09 | mikma | oh wow |
| 21:16.25 | mikma | ambitious plans, i like your can-do attitude, shadowed. you're hired! |
| 21:20.39 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/ACri4p5.png haha |
| 21:27.01 | mikma | neffi: the ending is just oh so good |
| 21:27.27 | Neffi | :D |
| 21:27.35 | Neffi | I hope it's real |
| 21:27.50 | mikma | yeah |
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| 21:51.06 | Fisker | I miss Shirik |
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| 22:14.33 | Shirik | I miss Fisker |
| 22:14.39 | Fisker | Me too |
| 22:14.52 | kd3 | with each bullet you shoot, right? |
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| 22:28.49 | Thunder_Child | Nothing so crude. |
| 22:29.09 | Arrowmaster | i like number 9 http://imgur.com/a/kbOh0 |
| 22:29.49 | Arrowmaster | i can see it being in ep8 now |
| 22:30.23 | Thunder_Child | A berserk lighsaber? |
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| 22:32.21 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: yes |
| 22:45.26 | Shirik | I don't understand why people are freaking out about this so much |
| 22:45.30 | Shirik | I didn't think it was that bad |
| 22:46.14 | znf | foxlit, http://i.imgur.com/Jj7vIZN.png the weapon upgrade arrow goes away after you use it, but the armor doesn't |
| 22:46.51 | foxlit | what happens when you click it? |
| 22:47.05 | Simca_ | nothing |
| 22:47.11 | Simca_ | it's just the graphic that remains |
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| 22:50.45 | Amarande | wow, St Louis is still getting hammered. WoW still being targeted after this many days? |
| 22:56.27 | Ressy | no. |
| 23:06.11 | mikma | https://narf-archive.com/pix/7ca0d28281c20bdfc562318b03ec29cb3a1dcf8e.png |
| 23:06.57 | Amarande | hah |
| 23:15.17 | Simca_ | Shadowed: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/15354637640 may help your bruteforcing efforts. |
| 23:15.56 | Simca_ | I don't know if doing the calculations yourself is faster than doing the Blizzard ones, but you at least will need the follower xp math because that isn't provided by the API (not entirely, anyway). |
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| 23:18.35 | ccox | nice subtle touch: in my garrison I have a NPC "Maybell McClure-Stonefield" |
| 23:20.39 | Gnarfoz | too subtle for me |
| 23:20.54 | foxlit | znf: tracked it; bag update occurs after follower update; it still thinks you have upgrades. |
| 23:21.01 | Fisker | Rude kd3 :( |
| 23:21.25 | Fisker | You're like that guy at blizzcon I asked about hearthstone |
| 23:21.42 | znf | foxlit, oh, sorry, didn't notice you replied. But cool that you tracked it ^^ |
| 23:22.15 | Fisker | "We're pleased to work with blizzard on bringing hearthstone to android" |
| 23:22.21 | Fisker | (tm) |
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| 23:38.58 | Jamash | aight, gotta get to 100 before bedtime |
| 23:39.35 | Jamash | mikma: your .png has jpeg artifacts |
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