| 00:16.24 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.40 | tz | ooo |
| 00:22.10 | xyphoid_ | niiice. |
| 00:30.40 | znf | sooo |
| 00:30.50 | znf | what have they changed in the last build in regards to the garrison? |
| 00:32.39 | Semlar | tries to calm neffi down |
| 00:33.41 | znf | oh |
| 00:33.42 | znf | nice |
| 00:33.50 | znf | my realm is going to be down only from 7 to 9 |
| 00:33.52 | znf | not 4 to 11 |
| 00:34.46 | Neffi | Semlar: should be the other way around. you're starting to get pretty thermodynamically excited! |
| 00:35.55 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.40 | Semlar | this fight is so bullshit |
| 00:36.56 | znf | that boss is a dick |
| 00:37.08 | znf | Semlar, burn trough the 1st conduit |
| 00:37.54 | znf | oh, are you going for gold, btw, or just completing it? |
| 00:38.16 | Semlar | we usually try to do as well as we can |
| 00:38.27 | znf | just try that |
| 00:38.30 | znf | burn trough the first phase |
| 00:38.35 | znf | pop bl @ start if you have it |
| 00:38.40 | znf | (which you do) |
| 00:38.56 | Semlar | you probably lose as much dps opening the stupid conduits than you do from the buff |
| 00:38.58 | Neffi | youtube won't buffer for me. what the hell |
| 00:39.37 | Semlar | it's only what, 28% less damage? |
| 00:40.30 | Semlar | if you do that how many conduits are open at 50% |
| 00:40.41 | znf | Semlar, 24%, but at least everyone stays alive :) |
| 00:40.53 | Semlar | i thought each one was 14% reduced damage |
| 00:41.39 | znf | Semlar, you get 4 at 50% |
| 00:41.53 | znf | you're right |
| 00:41.53 | Semlar | even if you don't close the first two? |
| 00:41.55 | znf | 24% each |
| 00:42.38 | fewyn | i love that broker garrison alerts me when my garrison cache gets full on my alts |
| 00:42.57 | Semlar | is there a limit to how many resources it can hold? |
| 00:43.10 | fewyn | i think so |
| 00:43.14 | Semlar | what is it |
| 00:43.15 | fewyn | let me check |
| 00:43.20 | fewyn | we'll find out |
| 00:43.33 | fewyn | broker garrison just shows it in red right now at 412 |
| 00:43.39 | fewyn | and has a red ! |
| 00:43.44 | fewyn | so i assume it has a cap |
| 00:43.48 | znf | Semlar, 10k |
| 00:43.55 | Semlar | well yeah 10k |
| 00:44.00 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/C5z7p5B.png |
| 00:44.01 | Semlar | but is there a lower cap? |
| 00:44.02 | fewyn | it has a 10k cap? |
| 00:44.07 | fewyn | i mean the cache |
| 00:44.10 | znf | Ohhhhh |
| 00:44.10 | fewyn | in the garrison |
| 00:44.13 | znf | ignore me |
| 00:44.18 | znf | I'm completely distracted today |
| 00:44.26 | fewyn | well i collected 412 |
| 00:44.30 | fewyn | so i am going to assume 500? |
| 00:44.37 | Semlar | maybe |
| 00:44.44 | Semlar | i've never let it collect 500 |
| 00:45.36 | fewyn | i got my alt to his garrison |
| 00:45.40 | fewyn | and have been letting it sit |
| 00:46.06 | znf | I log on for missions :P |
| 00:46.30 | fewyn | yeah this one is like just started |
| 00:46.31 | znf | Semlar, also, you're healer is being silly |
| 00:46.35 | fewyn | like it opened the garrison |
| 00:46.53 | Semlar | is he? |
| 00:46.57 | znf | Semlar, if he stays on the edge of that thingie, and the tank in the opposite corner, he doesn't get the shrapnel damage |
| 00:47.04 | znf | (and doesn't have to move) |
| 00:47.23 | Semlar | i was unable to avoid shrapnel damage standing high enough on the ramp to avoid the orb damage |
| 00:47.42 | znf | you don't get hit by shrapnel if you sit at the 2nd line |
| 00:47.53 | Semlar | they raised the height of the orb damage |
| 00:48.01 | Semlar | to keep people from standing on the conduits |
| 00:48.12 | Semlar | and now i don't even know if you can avoid shrapnel because of it |
| 00:48.16 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/TpcgYKo.jpg |
| 00:48.21 | znf | hmm, when did they do that? I did it a few hours ago |
| 00:48.32 | Semlar | it would have been yesterday |
| 00:48.57 | Semlar | you can see how much damage i take at the start of the fight |
| 00:49.01 | znf | well, I didn't die on it and I was sitting there :-| |
| 00:49.03 | Semlar | i'm trying to figure out where i can stand to avoid it |
| 00:49.23 | znf | you're too low at the start of the fight |
| 00:49.29 | Semlar | that's where i used to stand |
| 00:49.35 | Semlar | until they raised the height of the orb damage |
| 00:49.37 | znf | at 0:22 is where you're standing perfectly |
| 00:49.57 | Semlar | anywhere above about 50% was safe |
| 00:50.08 | Semlar | but i get hit by shrapnel later in the fight while i'm standing on the ramp |
| 00:50.32 | Semlar | i'm probably standing too high at that point though |
| 00:51.05 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/v1kb092.jpg |
| 00:51.08 | znf | have your healer sitting there |
| 00:51.09 | Semlar | mostly because i didn't want to get hit by the stupid orbs |
| 00:52.20 | Semlar | they have an absurdly wide radius and i don't think you should attempt to open a conduit unless you are standing pretty close to the orb that just passed |
| 00:52.34 | Semlar | or the next one will clip you |
| 00:52.39 | znf | woah |
| 00:52.42 | znf | your tank is going down? |
| 00:52.43 | znf | wth? |
| 00:52.54 | Semlar | why wouldn't they |
| 00:52.59 | znf | we tried that |
| 00:53.02 | znf | the boss moved |
| 00:53.08 | Semlar | not while he's channeling |
| 00:53.23 | znf | we had only the DPS jumping down |
| 00:53.37 | Semlar | of course our tank got spiked |
| 00:53.44 | Semlar | so that was bad |
| 00:53.51 | znf | and we had 2 dps jumping down, on opposing sides |
| 00:54.11 | Semlar | the thing is our druid is probably the only one faster than me |
| 00:54.25 | Semlar | i don't think our warlock should go down |
| 00:54.34 | Semlar | except maybe with teleport |
| 00:55.02 | Semlar | the dk can use AMS |
| 00:55.13 | znf | that's why teleport was iinvented!! |
| 00:55.41 | Semlar | we just need to be quicker at it |
| 00:56.00 | Semlar | nebula169 said he tanked the boss on the ramp |
| 00:56.22 | Semlar | which i think could work if he could still avoid the orb damage |
| 00:56.47 | Semlar | maybe face him sideways |
| 00:57.04 | nebula169 | well i stand on the top of the ramp so i can dip down for nova, boss is slightly forward so everyone else can be on the platform and not get hit |
| 00:57.55 | Semlar | but you don't face him at the platform do you? |
| 00:58.00 | nebula169 | no |
| 00:59.11 | znf | ~framexmml |
| 00:59.17 | znf | ~framexml |
| 00:59.18 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml. ExportInterfaceFiles code in the console |
| 00:59.18 | Semlar | it seems like if you can get the boss to actually stand at the very top of the ramp but off the platform it would be ideal |
| 00:59.36 | Semlar | because it seems like the range on shrapnel is about the width of the platform |
| 00:59.39 | nebula169 | its hard enough to get him to move :p |
| 00:59.45 | Semlar | how do you get him to move |
| 00:59.54 | nebula169 | its melee range, so don't need to move him much |
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| 01:02.13 | Semlar | shrapnel is 15 yards |
| 01:03.12 | Semlar | which from what i can tell is only slightly smaller than the width of the platform |
| 01:03.40 | Semlar | although come to think of it if he's on the ramp it might cause problems for people running back up |
| 01:03.45 | nebula169 | nah, its 8, i just need to step out of melee range to avoid it |
| 01:03.52 | Semlar | http://www.wowdb.com/spells/154448-shrapnel-nova it's 15 |
| 01:04.00 | nebula169 | the cast range is, look at the effect raidus |
| 01:04.06 | Semlar | oh |
| 01:04.18 | Semlar | well why does it even have a range if he casts it on himself |
| 01:04.24 | nebula169 | :p |
| 01:04.40 | Semlar | :| |
| 01:05.07 | Semlar | maybe he won't cast it if his target is out of range |
| 01:06.20 | znf | Wonder if red ilvl followers get full XP from missions |
| 01:06.24 | nebula169 | 10% |
| 01:06.39 | znf | even with iLvl? |
| 01:06.44 | Semlar | http://www.wowdb.com/spells/154899-thunder-cacophony does he just randomly aoe everyone the whole time the conduits are open? |
| 01:06.50 | nebula169 | yes |
| 01:06.55 | nebula169 | @Semlar |
| 01:06.59 | znf | I mean, you know for sure, or assuming based on the level thingie they said a few days ago? |
| 01:07.00 | nebula169 | znf: i assume so? |
| 01:07.03 | znf | Ah |
| 01:07.05 | kd3 | no znf, it's like level level. they said so |
| 01:07.12 | znf | Oh, I missed that, then :( |
| 01:07.35 | znf | wonders why the hell do they give out a mission with ilvl requirement of 630 and 15k bonus xp |
| 01:07.56 | fewyn | people who put up auctions of 1 herb make me sad |
| 01:08.12 | nebula169 | people that put up 1 of any ts mat make me sad |
| 01:08.23 | fewyn | like it makes sense with some items |
| 01:08.26 | fewyn | but not herbs |
| 01:08.34 | fewyn | good thing i have auctioneer |
| 01:08.43 | Semlar | is blades of steel a cleave? |
| 01:09.02 | Semlar | the spell effect isn't very clear |
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| 01:09.42 | nebula169 | no |
| 01:10.00 | Semlar | i thought he had to be faced away from the group because of it |
| 01:10.18 | Semlar | well if that's the case there's no reason not to just push him onto the ramp |
| 01:10.26 | Semlar | on then stand on the platform |
| 01:11.15 | Semlar | and then that would give people more room to avoid the shrapnel |
| 01:11.21 | nebula169 | yar |
| 01:14.31 | Semlar | that and the last boss were the only ones that were giving us problems |
| 01:16.24 | Semlar | the first time we did zaela we kept getting pulled into the fire breaths and then knocked back so we stayed in them |
| 01:16.36 | Semlar | which is a death sentence |
| 01:17.05 | Semlar | there isn't really any way to survive getting pulled and then knocked back |
| 01:17.25 | nebula169 | the chain+dragon roar is annoying, but never had it happen in fire |
| 01:17.35 | Semlar | oh my god, it happened like every single time for us |
| 01:17.56 | Semlar | we had to start following the tank around the platform |
| 01:18.15 | Semlar | which meant everyone would get hit by the knockback, but not chained into the fire |
| 01:18.52 | Semlar | i wonder if i have those attempts recorded |
| 01:19.36 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:19.42 | znf | https://gfycat.com/SelfreliantTatteredHaddock |
| 01:19.43 | znf | tehe |
| 01:25.59 | Semlar | nebula169: look at this shit http://youtu.be/xnJPc79KMcg |
| 01:26.44 | nebula169 | oh, stand in melee, gah |
| 01:27.28 | Semlar | casters might as well give up trying to attack anything during that then |
| 01:28.01 | nebula169 | well i don't mean actually in melee range, just in the same area as the tank |
| 01:28.35 | Semlar | yeah but they have to keep moving with them so it's pretty hard for them to do any damage |
| 01:29.03 | Semlar | although that whole fight isn't very caster friendly |
| 01:29.11 | Semlar | or melee friendly |
| 01:29.25 | Semlar | basically what i'm saying is just bring 3 hunters |
| 01:32.55 | Stanzilla | haha Semlar |
| 01:32.58 | Stanzilla | mucho failo |
| 01:33.02 | Semlar | :( |
| 01:33.08 | Semlar | i'm so bad at this |
| 01:33.38 | Torhal | You said it. |
| 01:34.05 | Semlar | :| |
| 01:34.20 | Torhal | Just pointing out that it wasn't me! |
| 01:34.22 | Semlar | okay the orb damage radius is 17 yards |
| 01:34.33 | Semlar | and it pulses for 70k damage every 0.8 seconds |
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| 01:35.18 | Stanzilla | zaela is my favorite boss in that instance |
| 01:35.21 | Stanzilla | easiest, too |
| 01:35.32 | Semlar | bullshit |
| 01:35.39 | Stanzilla | pff |
| 01:35.40 | Stanzilla | l2p! |
| 01:35.53 | Semlar | you l2p, every other boss is easier |
| 01:35.59 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 01:36.34 | Semlar | well, it's not that the encounter is difficult, it's that it's completely random as to whether you'll be screwed or not |
| 01:36.48 | Semlar | if you're unlucky you will get owned by the adds |
| 01:37.29 | Xuerian | Semlar: It could be worse |
| 01:37.36 | Xuerian | You could chi torpedo off the platform to get away from the fire |
| 01:37.46 | Semlar | i disengaged off the platform after getting chained once |
| 01:37.59 | Xuerian | You could also have been the healer at th etime |
| 01:38.42 | Semlar | also apparently you can drop a warlock gateway on the bridge and fight the boss in a clear spot from the fire and never have to deal with any mechanics |
| 01:38.45 | kd3 | if you have everyone clump up on the adds, they're trivalized |
| 01:38.55 | kd3 | the hard part is, as always, spatial awareness |
| 01:39.17 | Semlar | the problem with stacking on the tank is that everyone will be taking a ton of damage from the knockback |
| 01:40.43 | Semlar | we didn't stack the last time we did it and we didn't have any problems, but that's only because we got lucky |
| 01:40.59 | Semlar | i think everyone saying the fight is super easy hasn't run into what we had to deal with the first few times |
| 01:41.35 | kd3 | it's not an easy fight. the first time I was in there on a pug I lost count the number of wipes |
| 01:41.44 | kd3 | getting chain pulled into the fire did us in |
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| 01:50.58 | Jamash | foxlit: Y U disable my garrison fight animations |
| 01:53.11 | Thunder_Child | Hold ctrl when you click. |
| 01:54.15 | Semlar | i should look more into these cinematic models they added |
| 01:54.30 | Semlar | you can do a lot more with them than you could with the normal model frames |
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| 01:55.35 | Semlar | like you can make the model look like it's casting a spell or is affected by an aura |
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| 02:06.05 | Torhal | Thunder_Child: Thought it was alt? |
| 02:06.47 | Xuerian | Semlar: Summary of all missions as massive battle go |
| 02:10.09 | Simca | it is entirely possible now to make a cinematic editor within world of warcraft to make your own scenes |
| 02:10.40 | Simca | it would just take a lot of skill |
| 02:11.02 | Simca | at least for the animations |
| 02:11.10 | Semlar | Xuerian: yeah, everyone should fight at once |
| 02:11.44 | Semlar | i think that would look hilarious |
| 02:13.10 | Semlar | complete all of the missions at once and show it as one battle |
| 02:15.40 | Amarande | Millhouse Manastorm is a follower? I thought he got eaten by Corborus back in Cata? |
| 02:16.44 | nebula169 | alternate. timeline. |
| 02:17.21 | kd3 | nobody ever found the body, so he obviously survived |
| 02:17.23 | Amarande | Ah, this must be before he ended up in the Arcatraz, then |
| 02:17.36 | kd3 | no, it's our millhouse. he went through the dark portal too |
| 02:18.09 | Simca | has to be, there wouldn't have been a gnome on draenor in the alternate timeline until just now |
| 02:18.19 | Simca | so there would not be a second millhouse |
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| 02:29.10 | znf | The quest for Millhouse says that he "changed" and hasn't even said "DOOOOM" in a while |
| 02:29.27 | Semlar | does anyone know what the siege vehicle from the level 3 goblin workshop actually does |
| 02:29.36 | znf | http://www.wowhead.com/quest=37179#comments |
| 02:29.47 | znf | erm, no #comments, just the text! |
| 02:32.07 | Jamash | ooh, heart of the swarm for only $10 |
| 02:32.10 | Jamash | finally bought'd |
| 02:32.58 | znf | I should get that |
| 02:33.18 | Jamash | woulda gotten it on launch, but I was unemployed and my computer was broken |
| 02:33.26 | znf | WoW for 4 GBP! |
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| 02:34.31 | Jamash | ugh, doing mists dailies is even more painful now |
| 02:34.50 | Jamash | gotta fly to ashran, portal to org, fly from jade forest |
| 02:35.09 | Jamash | maybe I'll set my hearth back to vale :/ |
| 02:38.27 | xyphoid_ | i love my second hearthstone |
| 02:42.00 | fewyn | i don't know how i'd survive without the water strider mounts |
| 02:42.05 | znf | Anyone checked the daily CM now? |
| 02:42.24 | znf | too lazy to go to ashran :D |
| 02:42.58 | tz | UBRS again |
| 02:43.01 | xyphoid_ | yeah i need to go get a water strider, i've been watching people quest with them jealously |
| 02:43.03 | tz | day 3 in a row |
| 02:46.02 | znf | oh geez |
| 02:46.13 | znf | foxlit, could we get a sort by mission timer? |
| 02:46.35 | Simca | znf i'm pretty sure he already did that. |
| 02:46.45 | znf | not in 0.5 :P |
| 02:49.02 | Simca | top left of main screen |
| 02:49.06 | Simca | sort by mission length |
| 02:49.09 | Simca | ? |
| 02:52.28 | tz | not an option in the current version |
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| 02:53.16 | Simca | oh, just sort by mission level |
| 02:53.17 | Simca | i see |
| 03:09.20 | znf | so, how much thingie does it have? http://i.imgur.com/5uENvyw.png or http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/item/112320/trade-skill |
| 03:09.58 | znf | I meant Intellect |
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| 03:15.33 | Jamash | aren't stats somewhat randomized now? |
| 03:16.48 | znf | not really |
| 03:16.58 | znf | not on trinkets, anyway |
| 03:17.19 | Ivnedar | looks like au server armory works now too karl_w_w |
| 03:18.33 | fewyn | the only thing really randomized is the tetiary stat |
| 03:18.43 | fewyn | so industribable, leech, etc |
| 03:18.53 | tz | nope, oceanic armory is still broken for me |
| 03:20.06 | Ivnedar | the api version of it died for a while, appears to be back |
| 03:20.12 | Ivnedar | the web armory is still broken |
| 03:20.24 | Jamash | "thingie", "industribable" <--- is English broken too? |
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| 03:22.12 | Thunder_Child | Torhal: Yes, alt. |
| 03:23.36 | znf | Jamash, ya, mon |
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| 03:52.27 | Simca | foxlit: XP numbers on follower tab next to XP bar is brilliant, tyvm. I have a hard time with purple and blue and telling if they were an epic follower or a rare follower who hadn't gotten any XP at level 100 was very difficult before |
| 03:52.34 | Simca | now, if they have an XP number, they're a rare |
| 04:04.06 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: It would seem that you are now stealing peoples crates.... |
| 04:07.07 | Ivnedar | Ooh, postmaster raid garrison missions :D |
| 04:07.27 | Ivnedar | awards a random selection of items found in the void |
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| 04:22.30 | znf | Thunder_Child, placebo |
| 04:22.36 | znf | people are not seeing the thingie animation |
| 04:22.41 | znf | and think something's wrong :P |
| 04:23.59 | Thunder_Child | While I was joking, that is not one of the two more plausible explanations. |
| 04:24.05 | znf | heh http://i.imgur.com/RYSqdQ7.png |
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| 04:39.21 | Simca | just yet another reminder that people are dumb |
| 04:39.30 | Simca | it is impossible to skip getting the crates - they are not optional. |
| 04:41.37 | Amarande | Simca: every now and then you still get FFX players who ask how to get back into the Bevelle cloister of trials to get the Destruction Sphere, too, heh |
| 04:42.23 | Amarande | and of course the infamous people asking in the DK starting zone "where's the chain?" |
| 04:42.38 | Amarande | gods, I remember rolling my first DK and like every other line in /1 was "where's the chain" |
| 04:43.30 | relaxok | im finally going attempt to make metatables per widget type instead of storing the entire API in every single UI element |
| 04:43.34 | relaxok | going to* |
| 04:43.44 | Simca | I guess it isn't literally impossible either. If the blizzard code server-side for distributing crates was written by a 4 year old drawing on a circuit board with a crayon, then maybe. |
| 04:43.56 | relaxok | that's like 15% of my loading time.. making function tables |
| 04:44.07 | Simca | just maybe. it wouldn't be able to process the increased frequency of requests |
| 04:44.07 | Neffi | wow |
| 04:44.40 | Amarande | Simca: you never know, there's been the occasional thing Blizz has done that has seemed inexplicably boneheaded |
| 04:44.57 | znf | Simca, actually I realized that if you break some of blizzard's functions, stuff won't work |
| 04:45.02 | znf | ie: no loot |
| 04:45.41 | relaxok | for each widget type, make a table.. then for each element of that type, make a metatable and set _index to point to it? |
| 04:45.43 | relaxok | is that the general idea |
| 04:45.45 | Simca | i don't use any of their functions for mission completion |
| 04:45.59 | znf | for example, I broke something while testing, and I broke the Mission UI. opening the mission did nothing; doing running C_Garrison.MissionBonusRoll(GarrisonMissionFrame.MissionComplete.currentMission.missionID) manually got me the loot |
| 04:46.16 | znf | well, you DO C_Garrison.MissionBonusRoll() :P |
| 04:46.26 | Neffi | you can just make one metatable for each widget type |
| 04:46.36 | Simca | yeah; i guess if you overwrote that function, there would be no loot, sure. |
| 04:46.37 | Simca | but |
| 04:46.41 | Neffi | not sure how WoW does it. never bothered to check if metatables were unique |
| 04:46.55 | Simca | the followers would never be freed from the mission until it was properly looted |
| 04:47.10 | Simca | so it would be rather obvious that there was a problem |
| 04:47.11 | znf | actually, I overwrote the function that called C_Garrison.MissionBonusRoll() |
| 04:47.13 | znf | or, rather broke it |
| 04:47.22 | relaxok | Neffi: but doesn't _index only exist in a metatable? |
| 04:47.33 | Neffi | __index you mean! |
| 04:47.37 | relaxok | sorry |
| 04:47.37 | relaxok | =D |
| 04:47.38 | Neffi | and what do you mean? |
| 04:47.49 | znf | I'm not exactly sure if that's entirely true, Simca; could totally be possible to advance to next mission and have the followers released |
| 04:48.01 | znf | but I don't want to waste my rewards to test :D |
| 04:48.11 | Neffi | a metatable is just a regular table. when some event occurs, Lua just checks if that table has a key named __something |
| 04:48.14 | relaxok | not logging anything certainly has sped things up! |
| 04:48.15 | relaxok | http://pastie.org/private/tttltt3bdjk0le8wctnvvw |
| 04:48.20 | Neffi | many objects can share the same metatable |
| 04:48.30 | Neffi | and object can even be its own metatable |
| 04:48.42 | relaxok | GlueXML less than 2 seconds, FrameXML ~7 seconds |
| 04:48.50 | relaxok | despite not doing the metatable shit yet |
| 04:48.52 | Simca | C_Garrison.GetCompleteMissions() still returns any mission that hasn't been bonus rolled even if it has been marked completed |
| 04:49.05 | Neffi | and if you wanna get really weird you can proxy metatables https://gist.github.com/nefftd/1bb88ded0875e27964c7 |
| 04:49.08 | Simca | so i assume they're locked down |
| 04:49.28 | relaxok | Neffi: there's a weird thing i noticed in the lua.. e.g. getmetatable(slider).__index.Disable(slider); |
| 04:49.48 | Neffi | yes, that's valid Lua |
| 04:50.06 | relaxok | Neffi: so right now i just capture it and point it to slider's own Disable |
| 04:50.16 | Neffi | that's the same as doing slider:Disable() assuming that getmetatable(slider) returns a table whose __index contains a function called 'Disable' and slider itself does not |
| 04:50.19 | relaxok | Neffi: but really that line is how every api call should work |
| 04:50.24 | relaxok | Neffi: yeah exactly |
| 04:50.33 | relaxok | Neffi: no, it does |
| 04:50.44 | relaxok | Neffi: slider does i mean |
| 04:50.59 | relaxok | Neffi: so i'm not quite sure what's up with that line.. but i think it shows how the actual widgets are set up as far as a table |
| 04:51.17 | relaxok | the widget function library is set to __index |
| 04:51.20 | Neffi | if `slider` has its own `Disable` method, the one in the metatable won't be invoked when you do `slider:Disable()`; metamethods are a fallback if the "default" action doesn't work |
| 04:51.46 | relaxok | okay hmm |
| 04:51.50 | Neffi | makes it easy to hook frame's methods without affecting other frames |
| 04:52.24 | karl_w_w | i just worked out how to deal with the dog's nervousness when the weather is bad |
| 04:52.48 | karl_w_w | distract him with a bunch of random obedience instructions |
| 04:53.00 | relaxok | Neffi: i think the fallback is actually the entire API though, otherwise how can you set e.g. all buttons to have the button api other than setting button methods for every single one you make? |
| 04:53.08 | Neffi | yes |
| 04:53.46 | relaxok | yes? |
| 04:53.50 | Neffi | frames in WoW don't directly contain their API. they're essentially empty tables (well, almost empty, they have some userdata stored at index [0]). the API is attached via the metatable's __index |
| 04:54.24 | relaxok | okay yes |
| 04:54.35 | relaxok | time to do that |
| 04:54.35 | relaxok | =D |
| 04:55.10 | znf | damn shutdown :D |
| 04:55.13 | znf | beat it! |
| 04:55.19 | znf | I had a mission that completed in ~20s |
| 04:55.23 | znf | and the shutdown was in 30s :D |
| 04:55.39 | znf | had time to send my follower to another mission |
| 04:55.40 | relaxok | Neffi: right now i do http://pastie.org/private/vcidhh6sygltay9aey4vuw |
| 04:55.48 | relaxok | Neffi: then setglobal to the element name |
| 04:56.02 | relaxok | Neffi: it 'works' but then everything hsa its own table and takes longer to load |
| 04:57.17 | Neffi | each _frame_ should be its own table. they should share a metatable |
| 04:57.26 | relaxok | right |
| 04:57.40 | relaxok | i meant everything has its own table... which is the whole API |
| 04:59.11 | Neffi | you know, you really should write an addon in WoW before you continue. get comfortable with Lua's semantics, especially in the context of the environment you're trying to replicate |
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| 04:59.33 | Neffi | metatables are sort of a big deal. you should be comfortable with them 100% if you're going to be embedding Lua in anything |
| 05:00.26 | relaxok | Neffi: well, agreed.. |
| 05:00.31 | relaxok | Neffi: btw, the fruits of my labors at the moment.. http://vt.tumblr.com/tumblr_nf83gcYgx41rsifdn_720.mp4 |
| 05:01.14 | relaxok | sorry for endless load time going into the world, that's what i'm babbling about improving at the moment |
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| 05:10.30 | karl_w_w | hmm, new headphones tell me blizzard's sound systems are weird |
| 05:10.53 | karl_w_w | ambient sounds just cut out at a certain distance |
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| 05:17.03 | znf | Anyone else noticing their game crash when they press the "Quit" button on the loading screen? |
| 05:19.39 | znf | wonders what is relaxok up to |
| 05:21.05 | relaxok | znf: making a wow client and server and editor |
| 05:21.18 | relaxok | znf: or really a generic engine |
| 05:21.28 | znf | What's the purpose? |
| 05:22.29 | relaxok | i dunno, maybe to releas as a game engine someday |
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| 05:39.13 | Semlar | welp my postmaster addon appears to be looting and deleting the mail without clearing the "you have unread mail from the postmaster" minimap icon |
| 05:40.32 | karl_w_w | how does that make you feel? |
| 05:41.59 | znf | wonders if Semlar will release it |
| 05:42.11 | Semlar | it's already on the internets |
| 05:42.23 | znf | sendse Curse commenters after Semlar for making his mail disappear |
| 05:42.39 | Semlar | deletes znf's mailbox |
| 05:42.54 | Semlar | how do you even mark a message as read |
| 05:43.09 | Semlar | or is my addon just going so fast it isn't updating the mail status |
| 05:43.33 | znf | I need to steal Simca's code |
| 05:43.57 | Semlar | oh wait, the mail is deleted so it shouldn't matter |
| 05:44.19 | Semlar | the mail icon is just dumb |
| 05:45.51 | znf | what's the addon name? |
| 05:45.54 | Simca | in the past, mail actions took FOREVER and a half. |
| 05:46.10 | Simca | deleting mail even via an addon was very very slow |
| 05:46.10 | znf | You should check my realm's Warspear at peak hours |
| 05:46.22 | Simca | like 1 mail per 5 seconds slow |
| 05:46.22 | Semlar | postmastergeneral |
| 05:46.34 | Semlar | oh well mine is doing it instantly and breaking everything |
| 05:46.47 | Semlar | so it sounds like a good tradeoff |
| 05:46.51 | znf | Simca, your text-output-thingie works on GARRISON_MISSION_COMPLETE_RESPONSE, right? |
| 05:47.29 | Neffi | Semlar: sure, just break all the things |
| 05:47.35 | znf | looks like I can just ste... I mean, borrow PrintCurrentMissionOutcome() straight away |
| 05:47.58 | Simca | i've been using an if statement in that event - if arg3 (success) then bonus roll first, otherwise print mission outcome |
| 05:48.00 | Semlar | it seems to eventually update who you have unread mail from |
| 05:48.05 | Simca | then the bonus roll one prints mission outcome |
| 05:49.33 | znf | I'll test when the realms are back up |
| 05:49.39 | Simca | assuming you're looking at v1.0 of MissionComplete; you'll want to run the code i have on lines 184 through 190 prior to completing the missions as well, btw. |
| 05:50.08 | Simca | i add some values to the missions table i have stored that aren't normally there - such as base XP, success chance, and material multiplier |
| 05:50.17 | znf | Hmmm |
| 05:50.27 | karl_w_w | my addon makes the mail indicator realise you have no mail |
| 05:50.37 | karl_w_w | but its not by design and i dont remember why |
| 05:50.43 | Simca | together you will be unstoppable |
| 05:50.53 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure this marked them as read when i had a longer delay |
| 05:51.03 | Semlar | but i lowered it and now it seems to be confused |
| 05:52.52 | karl_w_w | you've brought on the apocalypse |
| 05:52.58 | karl_w_w | I hope you're happy |
| 05:53.18 | znf | Simca, looks to me like I can just modify that function to print only when the someone actually opens the chest, doesn't it? |
| 05:53.36 | Simca | sure |
| 05:54.06 | Simca | just only run it in GARRISON_MISSION_BONUS_ROLL_COMPLETE |
| 05:54.14 | karl_w_w | [13:53:39] [1][Banchu]: the only b word you should be calling a woman is beautiful. bitches love that |
| 05:54.24 | znf | and if I'm reading this correctly, I don't need to build a table of rewards, right? |
| 05:55.00 | znf | eh, I'll give it a go when my realm is online |
| 05:55.46 | Simca | the table I use is literally just the one from C_Garrison.GetCompleteMissions() |
| 05:56.16 | Simca | instead of using an index you can just pass an argument to the function with the missionID, then find the one you want that way |
| 05:56.58 | znf | cool |
| 05:59.44 | Kaelten | repos are being shutdown on curseforge/wowace for a few mins for maintenance |
| 06:05.06 | Simca | znf: here, an altered version of the code, much clearer for your uses I think - http://www.curseforge.com/paste/11033/ |
| 06:05.29 | znf | Simca, you're a peach |
| 06:11.14 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:16.29 | relaxok | Neffi: success! |
| 06:16.42 | relaxok | Neffi: i think |
| 06:16.48 | relaxok | GlueXML finished anyway |
| 06:17.40 | znf | so, are you using the .exe? |
| 06:18.00 | znf | I mean, the wow executable? Or you just made something that runs all the WoW assets? |
| 06:19.04 | relaxok | latter |
| 06:19.20 | Iriel | I keep meaning to ask this⦠âWhy?â |
| 06:20.05 | relaxok | Iriel: well i've learned a shitload by making a graphics library, networking library, audio library, multithreaded apps, .net GUIs, client/server setup.. all interoperating |
| 06:20.12 | relaxok | Iriel: so that seems like kind of a silly question |
| 06:20.48 | Iriel | Not really, if the answer is simply because you wanted to do it so you can learn all those things, than thatâs a worthy goal and a sufficient answer. |
| 06:22.02 | znf | So that's why it felt so... weird when you were moving :D |
| 06:22.33 | relaxok | yeah needless to say there's a neverending stack of issues |
| 06:22.44 | relaxok | but that means there's always something to do |
| 06:23.43 | karl_w_w | hmm, mpc-hc pauses now instead of crashing when I alt tab from a full screen app |
| 06:27.16 | relaxok | Neffi: oh yeah, this is totally working |
| 06:27.23 | relaxok | Neffi: thanky |
| 06:44.59 | znf | > Fangraal and Kronus now have 25% less health. |
| 06:45.20 | znf | How about you remove the f* Treants from the Alliance guardian, instead?! |
| 06:45.40 | znf | The ones that melee everyone for 50-100k and they spawn in packs of ~10?! |
| 06:46.28 | znf | After a lengthy discussion with the Postmaster regarding their mailing habits, the Postmaster should no longer be mailing back gray quality items and money that haven't been looted by characters. |
| 06:46.30 | znf | Noooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 06:47.07 | Trela | WHAT. |
| 06:47.14 | tz | wish postmaster would just consolidate into one, or disappear like AH once looted |
| 06:47.18 | tz | that's all they needed to do |
| 06:47.48 | Trela | D: |
| 06:48.10 | Trela | BUT... I liked that money coming in. Literally can not loot it any other way. |
| 06:48.24 | tz | looks like I'll actually need to use my loot-a-rang |
| 06:48.49 | Trela | tz: I literally am using my Loot-A-Rang every kill and I STILL got mail from the postmaster. |
| 06:48.55 | Trela | *get |
| 06:49.04 | tz | I know, that's why I haven't been bothering at all |
| 06:49.12 | tz | now I have to, if I want the shitty items to vendor |
| 06:49.20 | znf | :( |
| 06:49.31 | Trela | Hopefully they fixed it so the mobs are lootable. |
| 06:50.50 | karl_w_w | if you reheat chicken twice do you die instantly? |
| 06:50.57 | tz | nah |
| 06:51.00 | tz | did it earlier today |
| 06:51.02 | tz | still here |
| 06:51.04 | tz | unfortunately |
| 06:51.11 | tz | worse attempt at suicide ever, 1/10 |
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| 06:51.18 | tz | worst* |
| 06:51.37 | karl_w_w | damn |
| 06:51.43 | karl_w_w | need to think of something else |
| 06:52.39 | karl_w_w | maybe I'll match red with green |
| 06:54.55 | znf | Wait |
| 06:55.02 | znf | What does this mean for missions that reward items? |
| 06:55.17 | znf | like, I got a few salvage crates in my mailbox because I didn't notice the bags were full |
| 06:55.24 | znf | No more postmaster? :-/ |
| 06:56.51 | karl_w_w | what does what mean |
| 06:59.32 | znf | looks at karl_w_w |
| 07:00.05 | karl_w_w | what does karl_w_w? |
| 07:00.13 | karl_w_w | what is the meaning of life? |
| 07:22.11 | znf | ffs |
| 07:22.18 | znf | I need other raid frames :( |
| 07:22.53 | znf | CompactRaid keeps breaking on me :( |
| 07:25.45 | Arrowmaster | oh wow i ordered something this morning as part of a holiday sale and got free shipping, they 2day'd it and ill get it by friday |
| 07:25.53 | znf | woo? |
| 07:26.40 | Arrowmaster | i was expecting standard 5-8 ground |
| 07:33.12 | karl_w_w | to all you huge euro truck sim 2 fans out there, you can get a free christmas paint job dlc right now |
| 07:35.15 | Fisker | sauce karl_w_w |
| 07:35.25 | karl_w_w | http://steamcommunity.com/games/227300/announcements/detail/125302369217784471 |
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| 07:54.15 | karl_w_w | i just hit 181 km/h with a trailer, you jelly Fisker? |
| 07:55.47 | Arrowmaster | nice |
| 07:55.54 | Arrowmaster | now try stopping or turning it |
| 07:56.36 | karl_w_w | was no problem :P |
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| 08:16.08 | karl_w_w | what |
| 08:16.25 | karl_w_w | windows is telling me im low on memory so need to close programs |
| 08:16.59 | karl_w_w | 16 gb not enough |
| 08:17.19 | znf | karl_w_w, did you mess with the swap size? |
| 08:17.55 | karl_w_w | yes, but my swap isnt being used |
| 08:18.06 | karl_w_w | I've got it on 200-2000 mb |
| 08:18.08 | znf | yeah, don't do that |
| 08:18.20 | znf | I did that, had the same issue |
| 08:18.25 | znf | let it automanage, works perfectly |
| 08:18.36 | znf | (and I had it set to 4GB) |
| 08:18.36 | karl_w_w | and task manager says i have 1 gb of ram free |
| 08:18.53 | znf | my reports said that I was using only 20% swap |
| 08:18.59 | znf | yet, after I let it roam free, no more issues |
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| 08:36.17 | relaxok | Neffi: this doesn't seem to be any faster than just newlibbing the entire API for each widget |
| 08:36.20 | relaxok | Neffi: but its better to my brain |
| 08:36.23 | relaxok | Neffi: http://pastie.org/private/t9vfiwjvnsojgbqj3ef9lq |
| 08:37.10 | relaxok | actually what am i doing, i dont need to make a new metatable for each |
| 08:37.43 | relaxok | i can create them at the same time im making the api table and store that |
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| 08:49.10 | ZTrek | hello everyone ...I have a question |
| 08:49.57 | ZTrek | I'm working on making a config frame for an addon |
| 08:50.41 | ZTrek | I have 3 tabs on the frame |
| 08:51.16 | ZTrek | can I use 1 set of checkboxes for all 3 tabs? |
| 08:52.20 | ZTrek | can I define 1 set of checkboxes in the xml and share that set amongst all 3 tabs? |
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| 09:18.19 | Fisker | hey foxlit |
| 09:18.48 | ZTrek | I'm working on making a config frame for an addon |
| 09:18.53 | ZTrek | I have 3 tabs on the frame |
| 09:18.58 | ZTrek | can I define 1 set of checkboxes in the xml and share that set amongst all 3 tabs? |
| 09:19.51 | Industrial | ZTrek: try AceConfig ? |
| 09:20.13 | ZTrek | not yet |
| 09:21.58 | nevcairiel | With Lua, you can do anything, as long as you just code it to do what you want it to do, with XML, you're of course limited to what the XML thing offers |
| 09:22.12 | nevcairiel | also, repeating your 3 line question every 20 minutes is considered spamming |
| 09:22.20 | ZTrek | exactly hence my question |
| 09:22.36 | ZTrek | sorry but no one replied |
| 09:23.14 | nevcairiel | thats probably because most people are either at work or sleeping |
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| 09:25.19 | karl_w_w | [17:24:59] [1][Joshxo]: <Islamic State of Iraq and Syria> need more members to physically manifest and exert our islamic nationalism through the vector of terrorism. |
| 09:25.55 | nevcairiel | didnt he get the news that they removed the country specification |
| 09:35.20 | karl_w_w | maybe he's orthodox |
| 09:35.41 | karl_w_w | you don't know him man you can't judge |
| 09:43.28 | znf | ~framexml |
| 09:43.28 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml. ExportInterfaceFiles art in the console |
| 09:43.32 | znf | I should bookmark this... |
| 09:44.28 | nevcairiel | just extract it and use it locally |
| 09:44.48 | znf | but http://www.townlong-yak.com/ has pretty ui |
| 09:45.59 | karl_w_w | my browser has this neat trick of remembering websites I visit so if I want the frame xml I can just type "frame" and it'll come up |
| 09:46.10 | karl_w_w | so futuristic |
| 09:46.14 | Fisker | I like Spade znf |
| 09:49.43 | Simca | nevcairiel: might be coincidence, but i was finishing my garrison formulas (filling in some missing pieces) and I did come across the number 5% - a follower's contribution is multiplied by 1 + ((follower level - mission level) * 0.05) if their level is higher than the mission level |
| 09:51.24 | Simca | so a level 100 follower doing a level 95 mission would have 1.25 times their normal contribution |
| 09:51.46 | Simca | effectively 5% per level if you look at it in that way |
| 09:58.04 | Simca | sometimes when using the garrison UI, my mouse gets locked up, like something is accepting all mouse input |
| 09:58.47 | nebula169 | Simca: i've had that happen |
| 09:59.03 | Simca | yeah; i'm pretty sure it is a blizzard UI bug actually |
| 09:59.18 | nebula169 | only see it when doing missions |
| 09:59.22 | Simca | yeah |
| 09:59.45 | Simca | typically when dragging or resetting followers |
| 10:02.11 | Mr_Rabies | ive never seen that but who knows, certain hardware configs only |
| 10:02.19 | znf | in other words, this sucks: http://i.imgur.com/Ec8EkYY.png |
| 10:04.04 | nevcairiel | no, this sucks: http://imgur.com/rJa6Q2a |
| 10:04.21 | nevcairiel | also, dont push followers up to ilvls if you dont have enough yet to ac tually do the missions, its just depressing |
| 10:04.47 | Mr_Rabies | Shadowed: ABS rises from the dead :D! |
| 10:04.59 | Mr_Rabies | (well, sorta dead) |
| 10:05.43 | znf | nevcairiel, well, I didn't know that before I pushed them! :( |
| 10:06.48 | znf | Simca, bah, I keep getting Breeze\Breeze-@project-version@.lua:94: attempt to index local 'm' (a nil value) |
| 10:07.01 | znf | and I have no idea why, 5 lines above -> "local m" |
| 10:07.05 | znf | I'm too sleepy for this crap |
| 10:07.41 | Simca | it's supposed to have its value set in the following loop |
| 10:07.58 | znf | you mean PreloadMissionData() I'm running that |
| 10:08.46 | Simca | try changing the m = results line |
| 10:08.55 | Simca | to m = missions[mission_index] |
| 10:09.45 | Simca | i'm used to working in c++ now where that line would have been m = &results |
| 10:09.49 | Simca | and it would have worked fine |
| 10:10.12 | znf | that worked |
| 10:10.20 | Simca | ok cool |
| 10:10.20 | znf | thanks again |
| 10:10.23 | Simca | yup |
| 10:11.46 | Simca | guess lua doesn't like it if you make a variable reference a variable that is referencing a table and then remove the middle variable |
| 10:12.20 | nevcairiel | there is no such thing as reference in lua :p |
| 10:13.30 | Simca | well if I say local tableA, tableB; tableA = {1, 2, 3}; tableB = tableA |
| 10:13.33 | Simca | it doesn't copy the table |
| 10:13.39 | Simca | that implies some sort of reference |
| 10:14.04 | Simca | some rudimentary form of pointers |
| 10:14.39 | nevcairiel | the value of the variable is a pointer to the table, but all variables still behave like normal value variables |
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| 10:15.50 | Simca | so it's like C if the dereference operator was implicit |
| 10:16.22 | nevcairiel | you'll avoid many headaches if you stop comparing Lua to C :) |
| 10:17.30 | Simca | they were my first two real languages; the comparison is pretty inevitable i think for me |
| 10:17.57 | Simca | the one thing I love about lua is the tables/arrays. C arrays are awful. |
| 10:18.09 | karl_w_w | I like having no flying, I can spend my time trying to climb on top of buildings |
| 10:18.21 | nevcairiel | C arrays are just pure arrays |
| 10:18.52 | nevcairiel | no magic, no nothing, just pure arrays |
| 10:18.57 | Simca | yeah |
| 10:19.01 | Simca | but like |
| 10:20.11 | Simca | they should have at least did an array.resize function; in pure C to make a 'dynamic' array you have to just keep allocating new chunks of memory |
| 10:20.27 | nevcairiel | what do you think such a function would be doing |
| 10:20.36 | Simca | allocating new chunks of memory. |
| 10:20.49 | Simca | but it would be doing it instead of me having to write it in every program |
| 10:20.51 | Simca | lol |
| 10:20.59 | nevcairiel | one call to realloc is much work? :d |
| 10:21.46 | karl_w_w | C is a pain in the ass |
| 10:21.56 | karl_w_w | the whole world should be written in Lua |
| 10:22.02 | Simca | nah; it's the guesswork that gets annoying, because you don't want to call realloc in a loop |
| 10:22.31 | nevcairiel | #define resize_array(ar, num_elements) ar = realloc(ar, sizeof(*ar) * num_elements) |
| 10:22.32 | nevcairiel | there! |
| 10:23.09 | nevcairiel | the usual strategy is just to d ouble the capacity |
| 10:23.35 | Simca | that's probably safe, especially nowadays |
| 10:23.53 | nevcairiel | if you want to avoid mem bloat can also use 1.5 or other factors |
| 10:25.31 | karl_w_w | typical |
| 10:25.46 | karl_w_w | sit in queue for half an hour, step away for 2 minutes, miss queue |
| 10:25.47 | Simca | karl_w_w: i love how simple lua is, but it pains me to think about how all of the simplicity with tables and arrays is probably implemented in reality in a cacophony of functions that waste a tremendous amount of potential processing time |
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| 10:28.27 | znf | Simca, what format do mission links have? |
| 10:28.59 | znf | AH |
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| 10:29.17 | znf | |cffffff00|Hgarrmission:157| |
| 10:30.21 | Simca | |cffffff00|Hgarrmission:148|h[Breaking the Blackrock]|h|r| |
| 10:30.47 | Simca | i like your idea though |
| 10:31.26 | znf | :) |
| 10:34.42 | karl_w_w | it annoys me that the garrison town hall doors are tiny, and half of the visible space is impassable |
| 10:35.09 | nevcairiel | huh, the door is giant |
| 10:35.24 | Fisker | he must be alliance karl_w_w |
| 10:35.27 | Fisker | err nevcairiel |
| 10:35.32 | nevcairiel | i am alliance |
| 10:35.37 | Fisker | oh |
| 10:35.45 | karl_w_w | the interior doors |
| 10:35.47 | Fisker | I can't fit on my core hound though |
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| 10:36.05 | Fisker | Why are you terrible nevcairiel? |
| 10:38.19 | karl_w_w | when wow was first released was MC the only raid? |
| 10:39.56 | nevcairiel | onyxia was also available |
| 10:41.45 | nevcairiel | and with patch 1.3.0, azuregos and kazzak were introduced as world bosses |
| 10:44.00 | karl_w_w | http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/wowpedia.org/e/e1/Old-new_t2.jpg oh man the original tier 2 was fugly |
| 10:44.16 | karl_w_w | except for shaman |
| 10:44.58 | Fisker | Apparently molten core was to be scrapped :P |
| 10:45.25 | nevcairiel | didnt you watch the documentary, molten core was put together in a week because they felt like there was not enough endgame things to do |
| 10:46.08 | Fisker | Oh |
| 10:46.18 | Fisker | As I recall it they said they were scrapping it and then saved it in a week |
| 10:48.12 | karl_w_w | Molten Core was nearly cut from World of Warcraft. To ensure it would be in the game at release, developers finished working on the dungeon in a single week. Jeff Kaplan did all of the spawning and creature placement, while Scott Mercer designed all of the boss fights, Bob Fitch worked up loot for the dungeon, and Pat Nagle created the Hydraxis quest line. Alex Afrasiabi was responsible for the attunement quest which would be |
| 10:48.13 | karl_w_w | patched in later. |
| 10:48.51 | karl_w_w | so jeff kaplan is to blame |
| 10:50.09 | tlund | "blame" .) |
| 10:52.56 | znf | so back then a raid tier cost only a week? :P |
| 10:53.27 | nevcairiel | MC is pretty simple |
| 10:53.46 | nevcairiel | you wouldnt be happy with that kind of raid these days |
| 10:54.35 | znf | indeed I wouldn't |
| 10:55.58 | znf | I swear, I had this thing working with missions and stuff |
| 10:56.01 | znf | now I broke it again |
| 10:56.04 | znf | I'm too sleepy |
| 10:56.06 | znf | thanks Simca |
| 10:57.59 | karl_w_w | MC would be too easy now |
| 11:00.18 | Fisker | MC was mostly just about overwhelming people I guess |
| 11:00.22 | Fisker | But addons and OOC ressing :P |
| 11:00.23 | Fisker | <3 |
| 11:01.00 | Fisker | Of course back then some people still worse greens and had no concept of dps so it's much less structured than it is now |
| 11:01.11 | Fisker | Where we already havel like the best non-raid gear |
| 11:01.14 | Fisker | have like* |
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| 11:02.02 | Fisker | also adys I only sold one :( |
| 11:02.09 | Fisker | It doesn't seem like people know they're there |
| 11:02.32 | tz | okay, all my luck this xpac has been used up I just rolled a 630 warforged+socket+tertiary weapon |
| 11:02.57 | Mr_Rabies | same |
| 11:02.57 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 11:03.12 | Mr_Rabies | the polearm from ubrs |
| 11:03.31 | tz | I got teron'gor's sword |
| 11:03.35 | tz | wtb another |
| 11:04.10 | Mr_Rabies | i also rolled 634 epic on a 604 quest item :D |
| 11:04.26 | tz | yeah I haven't had any luck at all in that respect |
| 11:04.31 | tz | I've had 4 CM helms |
| 11:04.36 | tz | 2 gloves, and 2 boots |
| 11:04.48 | tz | meanwhile everyone else is getting every single slot sorted |
| 11:05.02 | Fisker | My luck this expansion: |
| 11:05.09 | Fisker | Only weapon drop was the polearm from ubrs |
| 11:05.41 | tz | mmmm |
| 11:05.59 | tz | one of our priest healers is 640 ilvl with a 602 chest because nothing will drop |
| 11:06.10 | tz | maybe he got lucky today |
| 11:06.16 | nevcairiel | thats the slot you craft or apexis for then |
| 11:06.21 | nevcairiel | thats what those choices are there for |
| 11:06.27 | tz | my bloody tanking set is higher than my main dps >_< |
| 11:06.58 | adys | Fisker: advertise them? :P |
| 11:07.09 | karl_w_w | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 11:07.18 | karl_w_w | RIP in pepperonis adys |
| 11:07.23 | jleclanche | Fisker: i sold like 10 |
| 11:07.28 | jleclanche | 650 gold each |
| 11:11.03 | znf | I swear to $deity I had this function working and printing to chat |
| 11:12.15 | Fisker | oh |
| 11:17.09 | znf | and now I have it printing twice, ok, sleep |
| 11:19.14 | znf | ok, this is insane |
| 11:19.17 | znf | it works on a char, but not on another |
| 11:19.29 | karl_w_w | hey Fisker |
| 11:19.36 | karl_w_w | is it possible to kill a guy? |
| 11:22.02 | Fisker | only once |
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| 11:23.01 | Mr_Rabies | does follower ilvl help at all with anything other than meeting requirements for certain missions? |
| 11:23.06 | Mr_Rabies | doesn't seem to boost success chance |
| 11:23.54 | Fisker | There are missions where bosses will need ilevels to complete |
| 11:24.21 | Fisker | I'm not sure if ilevel above the requirement increases chance on other missions |
| 11:26.54 | znf | level does, so maybe ilvl does, too |
| 11:27.19 | Mr_Rabies | doesn't seem to on the number |
| 11:27.25 | Mr_Rabies | but making sure i wasn't seeing a bug or something |
| 11:31.53 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: https://pay.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/2nem47/can_you_have_a_garden_in_new_zealand/ |
| 11:40.15 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/nmwQBYS |
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| 11:46.17 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 11:46.31 | jleclanche | Fisker: ilvl doesnt increase success rate |
| 11:47.49 | nebula169 | that seems silly, the higher your ilvl, the easier shit gets normally! |
| 11:48.16 | karl_w_w | no it doesn't |
| 11:48.27 | karl_w_w | higher ilvl = you do harder shit! |
| 11:49.06 | karl_w_w | like the guy who couldnt do silver proving grounds to get into heroics so wanted the requirement removed |
| 11:49.14 | karl_w_w | it's a tough life at the top |
| 11:57.52 | karl_w_w | oh my god i missed the queue pop again |
| 11:57.57 | karl_w_w | i give up |
| 12:01.01 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: a guildmate warlock asked me to complete the silver proving grounds for her (ive never played warlock) |
| 12:01.16 | nebula169 | silver is so easy ;[ |
| 12:04.28 | jleclanche | god damn it, another micro usb cable broken |
| 12:05.08 | tlund | znf: what addon is that in http://i.imgur.com/Ec8EkYY.png |
| 12:05.17 | nevcairiel | masterplan |
| 12:05.21 | Fisker | how do you miss the queue karl_w_w ? |
| 12:07.06 | tlund | nevcairiel: thanks |
| 12:09.37 | karl_w_w | by not paying the attentions, Fisker |
| 12:09.52 | Fisker | I usually pay attention to sounds |
| 12:10.25 | karl_w_w | disabling sound in background is underrated |
| 12:31.14 | karl_w_w | best one jleclanche https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/2nem47/can_you_have_a_garden_in_new_zealand/cmd2rhg |
| 12:43.29 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info23329-DraenorZoneAbilityHider.html <- comments ... ROFL |
| 12:44.13 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 12:44.50 | nebula169 | yea, blizzard went nuts with tutoral highlights everywhere else, should have used something on that button to indicate that you can drag it |
| 12:45.18 | nebula169 | still blowing people's minds telling them they can put it on their bars when they ask how to keybind it |
| 12:46.48 | mikma | nebula169: i think there is a tooltip or something saying you can drag it around |
| 12:46.57 | mikma | because that's what i did for the first time i saw it |
| 12:49.06 | nebula169 | ah |
| 12:49.17 | nevcairiel | yeah the tooltip tells you |
| 12:50.42 | karl_w_w | I don't even remember how mine got onto my bars |
| 12:51.09 | karl_w_w | but the button was never there |
| 12:51.25 | karl_w_w | maybe learning aid intercepted it |
| 12:51.31 | mikma | it's actually quite annoying |
| 12:51.42 | mikma | if you drag it to bars, it's not visible anymore when you change specs |
| 12:52.06 | nebula169 | oops |
| 12:52.30 | karl_w_w | it appears in the middle of my screen if i switch specs |
| 12:55.17 | mikma | is it dragged into bars in other spec? |
| 12:55.31 | karl_w_w | no |
| 12:56.37 | mikma | ... |
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| 13:02.54 | Torhal | Blizzard has a weird sense of timing. I'm in my Garrison, and see "Instance restart in 4:30" followed immediately by "Server restart in 15:00" |
| 13:03.13 | Torhal | So if you're in your Garrison, you are kicked a bit over 10 minutes before anyone else. |
| 13:03.16 | mikma | http://hastebin.com/yapayafihi.coffee - i made a LibMessageFrame-1.0 :P |
| 13:03.38 | rid_ | hi Torhal |
| 13:03.48 | Torhal | I don't believe you, rid_ |
| 13:03.52 | Torhal | It's a lie! |
| 13:03.53 | rid_ | :( |
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| 13:04.14 | rid_ | nothi Torhal |
| 13:04.21 | Torhal | Rude |
| 13:04.27 | mikma | http://hastebin.com/idologetib.coffee - there's how you use it |
| 13:05.36 | nevcairiel | you should give the message frame a metatable so you can call messageframe:row instead of MF.row(messageframe |
| 13:06.29 | mikma | sounds good, now i need to find a example of doing that. I've never play with metatables before |
| 13:08.50 | Arrowmaster | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca1UyiveO2Q |
| 13:10.24 | Arrowmaster | Torhal |
| 13:11.03 | Torhal | Arrowmaster |
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| 13:11.40 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: watch the video |
| 13:12.26 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Hah |
| 13:12.45 | Arrowmaster | it gets even better |
| 13:13.35 | mikma | nevcairiel: should the metatable be in the library or in the code calling the library? |
| 13:15.28 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eCeuq36zHo norway, biggest source of military advancement |
| 13:19.24 | Arrowmaster | neat |
| 13:19.33 | Industrial | nice |
| 13:27.30 | Shirik | neat, but I question the failure mode |
| 13:27.41 | Shirik | I seriously doubt those are bulletproof lenses |
| 13:27.49 | mikma | in that case, oldschool |
| 13:27.51 | karl_w_w | so what if it fails |
| 13:28.06 | mikma | point'n'shooty |
| 13:28.07 | karl_w_w | having it and it failing is still more than not having it |
| 13:28.38 | Arrowmaster | if it fails you look through the windows/use the periscope mirrors |
| 13:30.01 | karl_w_w | but how can you see through those things with an oculus rift on your head? :P |
| 13:30.03 | Arrowmaster | if it ever becomes standard equipment then snipers will finally get used against tanks just to take it out because it would be too much of an advantage |
| 13:30.37 | nevcairiel | those are pretty small targets to hit, and can potentially be hidden rather well |
| 13:31.08 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: and then we really would have transitioned into a video game |
| 13:31.17 | Shirik | like starfox where you have those points you have to hit to take down a boss |
| 13:31.36 | Shirik | you have to hit them and then the little exposed area pops open so you can do damage |
| 13:32.09 | karl_w_w | and you have to dodge the bullets long enough to do it |
| 13:32.19 | Arrowmaster | if a new tank was designed with the system in mind it would be better hidden/protected, adding it onto an existing tank will probably make it standout because it needs to be in certain positions for the images to line up |
| 13:33.05 | Shirik | it would be really interesting to see advancements in durable lenses |
| 13:33.59 | Ivnedar | if the cameras are $500 when the ones they'd usually get are 100k, cover the surface with them :P |
| 13:34.49 | Ivnedar | raid array of cameras, raic! |
| 13:35.06 | karl_w_w | oh man can you imagine |
| 13:35.14 | karl_w_w | they could do infrared as well |
| 13:35.37 | karl_w_w | that would be even more useful |
| 13:35.49 | Ivnedar | or something that would detect oncoming metal |
| 13:35.58 | Ivnedar | see surface mines on the path |
| 13:36.13 | nevcairiel | that probably already exists |
| 13:36.46 | karl_w_w | no doubt they have to stick their head out of the top with hunky goggles on |
| 13:36.52 | karl_w_w | funky* |
| 13:37.30 | karl_w_w | doing it through rift would give a safer and clearer picture |
| 13:38.09 | Shirik | you can't actually do that without some absolutely insane (impossible?) vision processing |
| 13:38.16 | Shirik | you have the parallax problem |
| 13:38.50 | relaxok | can someone give me a lua 5.1 implementation of luaL_newlib and luaL_setmetatable? |
| 13:39.06 | relaxok | i am trying luajit instead of the standard c lib and it doesnt support 5.2 |
| 13:39.35 | nevcairiel | setmetatable is a standard feature in 5.1 o.o |
| 13:39.45 | relaxok | hmm |
| 13:40.36 | relaxok | its not in the luajit headers |
| 13:42.07 | relaxok | yeah no existo |
| 13:42.52 | relaxok | it was added in 5.2 |
| 13:43.14 | nevcairiel | nonsense, setmetatable is far older |
| 13:43.20 | relaxok | lua_setmetatable is |
| 13:43.24 | relaxok | but not luaL_setmetatable |
| 13:44.08 | relaxok | looks like it might be luaL_getmetatable(L,MYTYPE); lua_setmetatable(L, -2); |
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| 14:28.37 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: Oh....well that was going to be my next bug....guess not anymore. |
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| 15:09.44 | Torhal | http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i-NccB8SH/0/O/i-NccB8SH-O.jpg |
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| 15:11.26 | Thunder_Child | s/wow/heroin/ |
| 15:14.14 | jleclanche | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2014/11/26/iron-horse |
| 15:14.18 | jleclanche | dammit Torhal |
| 15:15.24 | Thunder_Child | Torhal: 1, jleclanche: 0 |
| 15:15.33 | jleclanche | I posted the original link |
| 15:15.34 | jleclanche | so |
| 15:18.59 | jnwhiteh | <3 |
| 15:19.02 | jnwhiteh | Love you all! |
| 15:19.35 | mikma | yes, yes, you too |
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| 15:23.14 | Elkano | foxlit, missions can award multiple items, eg XP + apexis shards; that causes overlap in Master Plan's completed mission display |
| 15:23.31 | jleclanche | jnwhiteh: <3 |
| 15:25.15 | Kesava | Guillotine: please change the dinging noise |
| 15:25.22 | Kesava | like seriously |
| 15:26.06 | Kesava | well maybe not the noise, more the fact that it repeats until you click the button |
| 15:26.33 | karl_w_w | jnwhiteh, tomtom waypoint arrow keeps resetting the centre of my screen :( |
| 15:26.41 | karl_w_w | when I log in |
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| 15:27.13 | mikma | foxlit: this might be a silly request for you, but our daughter loves to open the chests in the garrison missions.. any way of adding an option not to skip the chest parts? :) |
| 15:27.25 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: O.o |
| 15:27.34 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: that's really really odd, since its stored in SVs |
| 15:27.38 | jnwhiteh | any chance those arne't being written properly? |
| 15:27.39 | jnwhiteh | or loaded? |
| 15:30.26 | karl_w_w | don't think so, other addons are remembering themselves |
| 15:30.46 | jnwhiteh | that's really weird |
| 15:30.54 | jnwhiteh | i probably won't be able to look at it at least until monday |
| 15:30.55 | jnwhiteh | with my family now |
| 15:31.18 | Kesava | Guillotine: other than that it's lovely |
| 15:31.53 | karl_w_w | no worries, it's only mildly inconvenient :P |
| 15:32.25 | karl_w_w | I'll change another option as well and see if that sticks between logins |
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| 15:57.28 | mikma | jnwhiteh: you at the states or they at the gayden? |
| 15:57.43 | jnwhiteh | mikma: still kalle, but in Arizona |
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| 15:58.40 | mikma | kalle, kalle, kalle... titta! |
| 16:01.31 | jnwhiteh | mikma: kan du svenska? |
| 16:03.30 | mikma | jnwhiteh: nej :( that's from finnish comedy show |
| 16:03.39 | jnwhiteh | I know, but you should speak *some* |
| 16:03.42 | jnwhiteh | its the fun language |
| 16:03.59 | mikma | i have the interest of learning, but not the time :P |
| 16:04.26 | mikma | i didn't have the interest back in the school but it came out later |
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| 16:10.29 | Ressy | Hotfix: "After a lengthy discussion with the Postmaster regarding their mailing habits, the Postmaster should no longer be mailing back gray quality items and money that haven't been looted by characters." |
| 16:11.17 | Maldivia | buuh |
| 16:31.02 | Dagmar | That's almost as good of news as finding out these "Rampant Brawlers" aren't as rampant as all that. |
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| 16:38.25 | mikma | every country turns fun if you add "gay" in it! |
| 16:38.43 | mikma | norway -> gayway or norgay |
| 16:38.54 | mikma | finland -> gayland |
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| 16:42.23 | ZombieUnicorn | hi guys :D |
| 16:42.44 | ZombieUnicorn | Just wondering, would it be possible to modify a chatbubble before the game renders it ? |
| 16:42.57 | ZombieUnicorn | or would i have to delete it and create a new ontop ? |
| 16:43.34 | ZombieUnicorn | Just the text that is |
| 16:44.39 | mikma | maybe if you hook the functions, then you can |
| 16:45.00 | ZombieUnicorn | hook it to blizz chat functions ? |
| 16:45.33 | mikma | yeap. but if you are talking about the chatbubbles ontop of players, you might need to test it yourself to find out. they might be protected |
| 16:45.54 | ZombieUnicorn | Those are the ones i mean :P |
| 16:46.34 | ZombieUnicorn | Since there is addons that can "modify" them, but i suspect they only "remove" blizz bubbles and create new ontop ? |
| 16:46.34 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9237 |
| 16:46.42 | mikma | shirik has answered to your question |
| 16:47.11 | ZombieUnicorn | So i have to destroy the old one and replicate it myself ? |
| 16:47.34 | mikma | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/bubblicious |
| 16:47.54 | Dagmar | Made with free range spider eggs! |
| 16:48.01 | ZombieUnicorn | yeah, i have already googled it. |
| 16:48.25 | ZombieUnicorn | Just that i wanted to know if it is possible to modify them without having to destroy them and then replicate it |
| 16:48.56 | mikma | well it's possible to change them in some ways according to that addon |
| 16:48.59 | karl_w_w | i swear to god i can hear frogs |
| 16:49.18 | karl_w_w | but there is no open water near my house at all |
| 16:49.30 | mikma | karl_w_w: ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD |
| 16:50.07 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/nmwQBYS |
| 16:50.12 | karl_w_w | maybe the cane toad plague has reached perth |
| 16:52.38 | mikma | zombieunicorn: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info22144-TransparentChatbubbles.html |
| 16:53.03 | karl_w_w | context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cane_toads_in_Australia#Introduction_and_spread |
| 16:53.14 | nevcairiel | that would be nicer if it would actually preserve the chat bubble, but make it translucent mikma! |
| 16:53.36 | mikma | nevcairiel: well, let's have a look, shall we? |
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| 16:53.55 | nevcairiel | like, maybe 50% alpha or so |
| 16:54.29 | mikma | nevcairiel: region:SetTexture(nil) |
| 16:54.40 | mikma | nevcairiel: maybe possible? |
| 16:54.59 | nevcairiel | probably |
| 16:56.57 | mikma | nevcairiel: done :D |
| 16:57.51 | Ressy | oh geez.. https://twitter.com/Canada/status/537649992325136386 |
| 16:58.19 | g0urra | cringe |
| 16:58.19 | mikma | nevcairiel: http://pbrd.co/1Fsgpiy |
| 16:58.57 | Fisker | Blame canada Ressy |
| 16:59.29 | mikma | nevcairiel: oh anyway, they appear to be semitransparent anyway, so, nvm lololo |
| 16:59.47 | nevcairiel | not semi transparent enough for my taste, but shrug |
| 16:59.47 | Ressy | Good morning Mr Teddy Bear Fisker. :P |
| 16:59.54 | Fisker | morning |
| 17:00.41 | mikma | Interface\Tooltips\ChatBubble-Background and Interface\Tooltips\ChatBubble-Backdrop |
| 17:01.40 | mikma | rofl |
| 17:08.13 | mikma | interesting, sometimes it works but most of the times it does not :) |
| 17:11.18 | mikma | zombieunicorn: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info19562-BubbleBobble.html |
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| 17:27.06 | relaxok | hmmm.. i switched to luajit and _G seems to not exist anymore |
| 17:33.33 | foxlit | Elkano: do you possibly have a screenshot showing by how much? |
| 17:33.58 | Fisker | hey foxlit |
| 17:34.36 | Elkano | sure, give me a sec |
| 17:35.14 | Fisker | wrong drop on the right boss |
| 17:35.47 | Fisker | all the excitement of getting loot combined with the displeasure of it not being the right piece of loot |
| 17:36.39 | Elkano | foxlit: http://abload.de/img/masterplanbug0015na2v.png |
| 17:36.56 | Fisker | Oh yeah |
| 17:36.59 | Fisker | I've seen that as well today |
| 17:37.18 | Elkano | the missing XP icon is likely a client cache bug |
| 17:37.54 | Fisker | I came up with inspiring ideas for your addon foxlit |
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| 17:42.53 | foxlit | Fisker: well done. |
| 17:43.32 | Fisker | I hope it's literally the most amazing idea you've ever read |
| 17:44.20 | Elkano | sorry, Fisker, but I doubt WoW allows NSFW content in addons |
| 17:44.35 | Fisker | wow is nsfw Elkano |
| 17:44.39 | Fisker | you silly goose |
| 17:45.25 | Elkano | but it offer such fine boss fights during work hours |
| 17:45.43 | Fisker | dat feel when you dump all of your armor upgrades on one follower and the next salvage crate you unpack is equip ilevel 645 armor |
| 17:45.43 | Fisker | ;_; |
| 17:47.29 | Fisker | Oh and that boosted me enough to get dungeon missions |
| 17:48.50 | Silvanas | anyonw know a function to reset a frame to its original position? |
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| 17:56.01 | karl_w_w | i just had a toast on steam overlay but i didnt have a chance to read it and now i cant find what it was telling me about |
| 17:57.31 | karl_w_w | it didnt have an icon so it wasnt a message or achievement or group announcement |
| 18:12.27 | Maldivia | ... guard your wallets... steam sale has started! |
| 18:13.15 | karl_w_w | my wallet is ready Kreygasm |
| 18:13.41 | karl_w_w | but I really doubt there will be anything I want |
| 18:14.20 | karl_w_w | oh what is this counter strike global offensive game? never heard of that one |
| 18:23.02 | Thunder_Child | I think you mean 'the steam sale as broken.' |
| 18:28.24 | foxlit | mikma: on some level, I want to avoid adding a screen of checkboxes as long as possible. |
| 18:30.51 | foxlit | so I'd prefer some solution that'd accomodate that desire without a configuration option. You can, for example, alt-click the complete all button to trigger blizzard's original completion logic. |
| 18:31.10 | foxlit | You can also click the individual missions in the summary report to complete only that mission, chest and all. |
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| 18:36.56 | karl_w_w | my headphones are making my right ear sore but I can't work out what part of my ear is being squished |
| 18:38.24 | kd3 | heh, wow. blizzard's official WCS youtube channel got suspended for copyright strikes. https://www.youtube.com/user/WCSStarCraft |
| 18:38.32 | Ressy | probably their own copyrights too |
| 18:39.16 | mikma | foxlit: well something like that would be superfun, because i myself don't need to see the chest-animations but incame my daughter is near, she always wants to open them :) |
| 18:39.37 | mikma | foxlit: s/incame/incase/ |
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| 18:40.54 | karl_w_w | some stupid chinese youtube channel claimed copyright to the blank drafting screen in dota 2 |
| 18:41.14 | foxlit | mikma: so alt+click or per-mission clicks sounds okay in that case. |
| 18:41.22 | karl_w_w | so all the casters have to wait until a few heros are picked or their youtube uploads get flagged |
| 18:41.44 | mikma | foxlit: alt-click for normal opening methods sounds a good idea, aka "skip the foxlit magic" combination |
| 18:43.00 | foxlit | should work in the current version, too. |
| 18:43.42 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: I don't think that is going to fly tbh. |
| 18:44.03 | kd3 | So the Everbloom exploit backdoor to Witherbark's still in game... |
| 18:44.04 | Thunder_Child | I mean, two buttons would be more ideal than that. One button with anims, one without. |
| 18:46.19 | karl_w_w | thank god kd3 |
| 18:47.30 | karl_w_w | I can do with as little everbloom trash as possible |
| 18:47.37 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: that would be the nuclear version of this configuration-avoidance approach. |
| 18:47.50 | foxlit | (imagine the labels on those buttons!) |
| 18:47.53 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: You said you didn't want checkboxes. |
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| 18:50.37 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: yes. I think "nuclear" is an apt description of my opinion on what you're suggesting -- it would certainly work, but I'd prefer not to go quite as far. |
| 18:52.24 | foxlit | [and I'm imagining the labels as "Complete All" and "Complete All (Slowly and with chests)"] |
| 18:53.02 | Thunder_Child | Complete All (Default) |
| 18:53.11 | Thunder_Child | So it's less of a dick comment. |
| 18:53.22 | Dagmar | I could very much use an addon that just lets you click and it walks through the garrison mission complete/fail animations |
| 18:53.47 | foxlit | my other opinion is that on the 151th time around, you'll stop caring about the attack swing animation. |
| 18:54.03 | Thunder_Child | Took me once, but them I am odd. |
| 18:54.19 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:54.35 | Thunder_Child | Don't get me wrong, I love skipping everything. That being said, the defualt should still be to show it. |
| 18:54.43 | Thunder_Child | default* |
| 18:56.44 | foxlit | fun story: a power failure killed my battle.net agent's game database, and I suspect that the agent then killed my wow savedvariables. |
| 18:57.19 | Dagmar | I am definitely past the 15th time around |
| 18:57.49 | Dagmar | Clicking once or twice every ten seconds, ten to twelve times in a row is fairly boring |
| 18:59.59 | Dagmar | Imma suggest to Blizz that they consider possibly that once someone clicks through five missions in one sitting it should unlock an automatic collection mode as an option |
| 19:00.43 | Dagmar | I'd like to _want_ to see them, but mainly I'm sitting here waiting for time to click the treasure chest or not |
| 19:01.09 | Neffi | Semlar: it's snowing! |
| 19:01.28 | Neffi | well, it snowed. now it's frozen rain. and everything's covered in a sheet of ice |
| 19:03.04 | Dagmar | Now Showing On A Hill Near You: Machinima Ice Ballet |
| 19:04.39 | Neffi | <_< |
| 19:05.45 | karl_w_w | why has it stopped giving me level 100 garrison missions |
| 19:05.50 | karl_w_w | stupid game |
| 19:05.57 | Thunder_Child | You touch yourself at night. |
| 19:07.37 | Shirik | where is Seerah :( |
| 19:07.45 | Shirik | I need her awesome music theory knowledge |
| 19:11.37 | Simca | foxlit: hmm. I had a mission that gave me 138 resources and one that gave me 48, and I got only one chat message - for 186. that kind of worries me - it implies that server is playing catch-up |
| 19:11.48 | Simca | that the server* |
| 19:15.28 | karl_w_w | that happens with all currencies Simca |
| 19:22.00 | Neffi | hey guys I think I've invented antigravity |
| 19:22.07 | Neffi | it involes cats and spiders http://i.imgur.com/Dn4YNJ1.webm |
| 19:24.46 | mikma | shirik: ivan torrent. go! |
| 19:25.00 | Shirik | mikma: I'm on a plane |
| 19:25.13 | mikma | shirik: 10 mile club. GO! |
| 19:25.39 | Shirik | currently at FL350 |
| 19:25.55 | Shirik | that's only 6.62 miles |
| 19:26.05 | Shirik | 10 miles is way up there lol |
| 19:28.58 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 19:29.16 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 19:29.19 | Thunder_Child | Someone just sent this to the office "Does anyone have a spare NERF gun that they'd like to give up for surgery? I have a personal project I'd like to attempt which requires sacrificing a NERF gun." |
| 19:30.21 | Fisker | I miss a peppy Shirik |
| 19:31.06 | Shirik | everyone misses the peppy |
| 19:31.07 | karl_w_w | oh dear fucking god |
| 19:31.11 | karl_w_w | what is a gifv |
| 19:31.17 | karl_w_w | somebody burn imngur |
| 19:31.22 | karl_w_w | imgur |
| 19:31.39 | Thunder_Child | http://imgur.com/blog/2014/10/09/introducing-gifv/ |
| 19:31.42 | Thunder_Child | Interesting |
| 19:33.55 | Shirik | alternatively you could use webm |
| 19:33.59 | Shirik | a standard that already exists |
| 19:34.01 | Shirik | that would be ocol |
| 19:34.02 | Shirik | cool |
| 19:34.45 | nevcairiel | Shirik: they do that |
| 19:34.48 | fewyn | http://store.steampowered.com/app/323780/ have they run out of things to simulate yet? |
| 19:34.54 | nevcairiel | The cornerstone of Project GIFV is a platform-wide upgrade to automatically convert uploaded GIF files on the fly into the WebM or MP4 video formats, depending on browser support. |
| 19:34.55 | fewyn | this one sounds cool at least |
| 19:34.56 | nevcairiel | Shirik: ^ |
| 19:34.59 | fewyn | i think it'd be awesome with the rift |
| 19:35.41 | zenzelezz | MNG is posed to take the world with storm any day now |
| 19:35.55 | Shirik | oh wait, so it's the same thing as a webm except that it came from a gif upload |
| 19:36.04 | Neffi | aye |
| 19:36.08 | Shirik | ok that's a lot more reasonable |
| 19:36.32 | Neffi | i dont think they allow webm upload which is disappointing |
| 19:39.40 | karl_w_w | that's not reasonable at all |
| 19:40.00 | kd3 | eh, looks like blizz got the WCSStarCraft account back on youtube |
| 19:40.01 | karl_w_w | the source of a file doesn't dictate its fucking file extension |
| 19:40.01 | kd3 | still, wow |
| 19:41.27 | Shirik | karl_w_w: we have long since reached the point where file extensions are meaningless |
| 19:41.37 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: it doesnt really matter |
| 19:41.37 | Shirik | we should stop using them completely |
| 19:41.55 | jleclanche | they're selling the format here |
| 19:42.02 | jleclanche | i see it as a service to the web |
| 19:42.08 | Shirik | I agree |
| 19:42.32 | jleclanche | even though i highly dislike imgur, they're doing a lot to actually promote the use of video-as-image-and-no-its-not-weird-you-dont-need-a-non-video-format |
| 19:43.02 | karl_w_w | they are just following the crowd |
| 19:43.22 | jleclanche | it's a good thing we can all thank mediacru.sh for starting this trend, huh? |
| 19:43.27 | karl_w_w | the shift already happened with gfycat and that other one |
| 19:43.40 | Neffi | jleclanche: think they were really the first to think of it? |
| 19:43.46 | karl_w_w | the only people who didn't notice are people who only bounce around imgur all day |
| 19:43.58 | Neffi | I like mediacrush, but don't give them undue credit. Execution matters more than ideas anyway |
| 19:44.02 | jleclanche | Neffi: maybe not to think of it but to actually implement it |
| 19:44.04 | Fisker | oh ok Shirik |
| 19:44.46 | karl_w_w | I'm gonna make a new file extension, I call it .pngj and they are files which are jpegs which were converted from pngs |
| 19:44.47 | jleclanche | Neffi: mediacrush is the reason gfycat came into existence, so even if gfycat is the reason imgur made this move, you can still track it back there |
| 19:45.04 | jleclanche | Neffi: it's not like someone did something, never told anybody and then is taking the credit 10 years later |
| 19:45.07 | Neffi | I don't really follow the trends of image hosting like politics |
| 19:45.31 | Neffi | I don't care. Who's offering a reasonable service, with a good web frontend? right now like 3 people are, and imgur and mediacrush are two of them |
| 19:45.37 | Neffi | s/people/places/ |
| 19:46.15 | jleclanche | me neither, i just enjoy advertising services that really deserve it |
| 19:46.39 | karl_w_w | and those "gifv"s on that page were clearly not converted from gifs |
| 19:47.44 | jleclanche | you were clearly not converted from gifs |
| 19:47.52 | karl_w_w | why thank you |
| 19:48.10 | karl_w_w | I am made of more than 256 colours |
| 19:48.14 | karl_w_w | thanks for noticing |
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| 19:50.49 | karl_w_w | I wonder if imgur has permission to use those movie clips for commercial purposes |
| 19:52.21 | foxlit | Simca: the currency sync probably just goes "hey, you now have X currency Y" and the client goes "I had Z, so I must've gained X-Z." |
| 19:52.43 | foxlit | [maybe I should do the same to salvage instead of catching chat_msg_loot.] |
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| 20:07.46 | Fisker | I'm sad foxlit |
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| 20:21.56 | tz | love it when people complain about an addon that it doesn't do whatever they thought it should do, you ask them to elaborate and they don't ever reply |
| 20:22.02 | tz | I swear, people are morons |
| 20:22.07 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpHSm0KcW7o best song Fisker? |
| 20:33.04 | foxlit | hm, fish shouldn't go into the reagent bank :/ |
| 20:42.58 | karl_w_w | why not |
| 20:43.28 | kullervo | indeed why not :D |
| 20:46.41 | foxlit | because raw draenor fish require gutting before being usable for anything, and you can typically use things in the reagent bank to craft things. |
| 20:48.20 | Dashkal | If it wern't for the awkward bit about needing multiples of 5/10/20 to actually gut them, I'd be inclined to agree. |
| 20:48.30 | Dashkal | They eat a ton of slots |
| 20:50.06 | foxlit | imo just vendor the remainders when you're done fishing. |
| 20:54.02 | Fisker | tackles into foxlit |
| 20:54.30 | Dashkal | mmm, probably a thing I'll start doing |
| 20:54.37 | Dashkal | I /really/ hate the fishing mechanic right now |
| 20:54.42 | Dashkal | More likely I'll just stop fishing. |
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| 21:09.48 | ZTrek | has anyone here ever developed addons for Runes of Magic? |
| 21:10.53 | Fisker | I replied btw foxlit |
| 21:14.25 | foxlit | Fisker: it's still the same thing |
| 21:14.42 | Fisker | nah |
| 21:14.54 | Fisker | You're trying to find the mission from a set of followers |
| 21:15.00 | Fisker | I want a specific mission with a specific follower |
| 21:15.04 | Fisker | and I want you to fill in the blanks |
| 21:15.48 | foxlit | "these" itends to refer to the followers you select, while the rest of the mission slots could be drawn from wherever if they exist |
| 21:16.13 | foxlit | the basic problem is that you would like to send Bob off somewhere (probably because you're trying to gain levels), and want to know your options. |
| 21:16.30 | Fisker | Exactly |
| 21:16.41 | nevcairiel | leveling missions seems rather trivial, since the majority is single follower |
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| 21:17.09 | Fisker | at this moment I have 66% multi follower xp missions nevcairiel |
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| 21:17.35 | nevcairiel | i recruited a new 90 today, with everyone else in my gang being 100, and i get spammed with leveling missions that i just send him on, one a fter another |
| 21:17.47 | nevcairiel | the sad part is that i barely get any 100 missions, so most of the team is bored and idling |
| 21:17.51 | foxlit | I should build an inn. |
| 21:17.59 | Fisker | But it's equally valid for garrison resources |
| 21:18.19 | nevcairiel | with resources you would start from the mission that yields those resources, woudnt you |
| 21:18.20 | Fisker | I want my scavenger to be in those and then decide if I like the odds enough to take the risk |
| 21:18.30 | nevcairiel | not from the follower |
| 21:18.45 | Fisker | :? |
| 21:19.15 | nevcairiel | i can usually boost percentages high enough with burst of power or a terrain/mob type match or party bonus to warrant running them with one person not contributing besides the scavenging though, so thats nice |
| 21:19.44 | nevcairiel | 130 resource mission with a scavenger, booya 390 resources! |
| 21:20.14 | ZTrek | RoM anyone? |
| 21:20.59 | Fisker | Do you know if all your inactive followers become active without penalty when you gain 5 slots from the barracks? |
| 21:21.09 | nevcairiel | they do not |
| 21:21.12 | nevcairiel | you have to activate them |
| 21:21.16 | Fisker | bullshit |
| 21:21.50 | Fisker | So I have to wait 5 days to get my follower count up to 25 |
| 21:21.51 | Fisker | _; |
| 21:21.52 | Fisker | ;_; |
| 21:21.59 | nevcairiel | just recruit new ones |
| 21:22.07 | Fisker | well that |
| 21:22.13 | nevcairiel | i was at like 24 the day i build my barracks |
| 21:22.16 | Fisker | But I already gathered everybody in the outside world |
| 21:22.23 | Fisker | Still got a few achievement ones left |
| 21:23.05 | nevcairiel | or just plan ahead and activate one guy the evening before you want to build it |
| 21:24.03 | Fisker | I'll just do it |
| 21:24.12 | Fisker | almost got the resources for the warmill as well |
| 21:24.16 | Fisker | Just need the achievement |
| 21:24.25 | Fisker | Croman MVP |
| 21:24.35 | nevcairiel | i activated one, i bought one for 5k gold since i needed his ability anyway, did one world thing, dunno what else |
| 21:25.12 | nevcairiel | i'm at 36 now |
| 21:26.02 | Fisker | Oh yeah can buy the apexis one |
| 21:26.15 | Fisker | Apexis shards don't seem that useful since I'll just get gear from LFR anyway |
| 21:26.26 | Fisker | so might as well buy their follower |
| 21:26.50 | nevcairiel | i already have like 8k shards again after doing the legendary quest and buying an item, so they collect fast |
| 21:28.16 | Fisker | Yeah 6k here |
| 21:28.26 | Fisker | And I missed one quest I think |
| 21:35.22 | fewyn | bbbhttp://blackfridaydeathcount.com/ |
| 21:35.23 | fewyn | http://blackfridaydeathcount.com/ |
| 21:41.00 | mikma | nice counter |
| 21:42.49 | Gnarfoz | no black.friday? |
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| 22:07.30 | Mr_Rabies | uhw hat |
| 22:07.34 | Mr_Rabies | one of these starter quests |
| 22:07.40 | Mr_Rabies | Kill Credit: Yrel 1 Slain |
| 22:07.44 | Mr_Rabies | Kill Credit: Yrel 2 Slain |
| 22:07.46 | Mr_Rabies | D: |
| 22:08.21 | nevcairiel | i got that too |
| 22:08.30 | nevcairiel | its their fallback objective type, slaying things |
| 22:12.06 | mikma | what are those messages? |
| 22:13.21 | nevcairiel | hidden quest objectives being completed |
| 22:14.05 | mikma | but why do i receive them when i am mounted and riding at place X |
| 22:17.06 | Mr_Rabies | all kinda stuff is tracked via hidden quests |
| 22:17.07 | *** join/#wowuidev zz_Cidan (~cidan@2605:e000:9fc0:4d:555f:db84:f1b7:b42b) |
| 22:17.17 | Mr_Rabies | sometimes they're not so hidden |
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| 22:19.40 | Kesava | and invisible bunnies |
| 22:19.42 | Kesava | don't forget them |
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| 22:25.31 | Fisker | damnit |
| 22:25.35 | Fisker | I thought I had barracks rank 2 |
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| 22:31.50 | nevcairiel | barracks obama? |
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| 22:53.34 | Simca | Maldivia: around? |
| 22:57.14 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.21 | Primer | does it avoid all the cut scene waiting? |
| 22:59.24 | Simca | he was talking about the difficulty of fixing a bug in his own addon, but by chance, yes, his addon does skip those cutscenes |
| 23:00.04 | Primer | yes, I understand what he was talking about |
| 23:00.15 | Primer | I don't see how that affects my question though |
| 23:01.23 | Primer | but I suppose I see how it could be misconstrued |
| 23:01.36 | Primer | Can't wait to try it out |
| 23:01.55 | Primer | heh, another omnicc update today |
| 23:01.57 | Primer | that's what, 3? |
| 23:02.32 | Primer | it's still not properly showing the CD on healthstone |
| 23:03.06 | foxlit | it's not really the difficulty |
| 23:03.42 | foxlit | it's http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/19116/Blizzard_GarrisonUI/Blizzard_GarrisonMissionUI.lua#659 being bizarre: "oh hey, I see you clicked a button. LET ME JUST UPDATE THIS LIST BEFORE I THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU CLICKED ON" |
| 23:04.01 | Primer | OMG, loving it so far |
| 23:04.36 | Primer | doh, it changed the sort order...wasn't expecting that |
| 23:07.05 | Primer | wow, I'm impressed |
| 23:07.08 | Primer | foxlit, well done |
| 23:15.36 | foxlit | Primer: :) |
| 23:19.54 | Simca | lol, Master Plan just pointed out to me - I have SIX Talonslayer followers |
| 23:20.04 | Simca | my followers are racist |
| 23:22.08 | zenzelezz | it amuses me when people make angry tweets at people like Wil Wheaton. Get a kick out of seeing the worst ones being retweeted |
| 23:23.25 | zenzelezz | "worst" as in "most stupid" |
| 23:32.56 | znf | So |
| 23:33.02 | znf | I feel shafted |
| 23:33.17 | znf | Salvage Yard lvl2 gave me shitloads of weapon upgrades for followers |
| 23:33.26 | znf | Salvage yard 3? 1 per day, if I'm lucky |
| 23:33.30 | znf | weapon/gear |
| 23:33.41 | Dagmar | Random numbers are random. :/ |
| 23:33.49 | znf | that's not "random" |
| 23:33.53 | znf | the pool is bigger |
| 23:34.02 | Dagmar | I had one day where I got six upgrade items. The next day, two. |
| 23:34.17 | znf | Do you have level 3? |
| 23:34.23 | znf | Did you have level 2 the previous day? |
| 23:34.24 | Dagmar | Nope |
| 23:34.36 | Dagmar | It's just been wildly variable |
| 23:34.36 | znf | When you get level3, you'll see what I mean |
| 23:35.57 | foxlit | up, so I wanted to let you add followers to missions by double clicking them. |
| 23:36.01 | foxlit | s/up/eep/ |
| 23:37.05 | foxlit | but single click triggers the ability expansion/collapse, which shifts buttons around if something was already expanded |
| 23:37.59 | foxlit | so you can be like "I'm going to double-click that!" and it'll be like "Okay, you single clicked this, let me just collapse the follower above and expand this one... oh, you clicked again, and now your cursor is over the ability list/something else entirely?" |
| 23:40.07 | Shirik | well that's a new one http://i.gyazo.com/46905f2cace6bfca3c0fcd5d42fe3fc1.png |
| 23:41.11 | znf | foxlit, not needed :P |
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| 23:45.49 | foxlit | znf: nothing is needed, surely. |
| 23:46.02 | znf | true |
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| 23:59.04 | kd3 | are the seal vendors in ashran not up yet? |
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