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| 00:10.50 | foxlit | http://www.curseforge.com/media/images/79/280/mission-threats.jpg |
| 00:12.39 | Constie | That's wonderful. |
| 00:13.26 | Xuerian | foxlit: Awesome. |
| 00:21.05 | kd3 | woo hoo. had dinner in the middle of an LFR MC run, still in the run once I get back |
| 00:21.31 | Xuerian | kd3: Standard vanilla raiding. |
| 00:21.58 | kd3 | was worried the system was going to punt me for afk |
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| 00:38.13 | znf | thanks foxlit <3 |
| 00:39.21 | znf | kd3, maybe a legend text below the frame would be nice? "green - ability/trait available"; "blue - follower is on mission" etc. |
| 00:40.05 | znf | erm, I mean foxlit ^ |
| 00:40.10 | znf | I'll just ticket |
| 00:41.54 | znf | oh, I see Simca published his, too! nice |
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| 00:48.03 | Teht2 | Hey all |
| 00:48.53 | Teht2 | I'm trying to make a script that turns UIParent on or off. I know I can toggle it with ToggleFrame(UIParent) |
| 00:49.19 | Teht2 | I'm assuming I need to just check if UIParent is visible or enabled so I can make that call. |
| 00:49.29 | Teht2 | Is there an easy way to reference UIParent in lua? |
| 00:50.53 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.22 | Teht2 | Ah |
| 00:51.32 | Teht2 | Suppose I can just use SetShown true or false |
| 00:51.36 | Teht2 | Thanks! |
| 00:52.24 | Neffi | either that or UIParent:Show() or UIParent:Hide() |
| 00:52.37 | Neffi | two ways of doing the same thing |
| 00:52.38 | Teht2 | Tight |
| 00:52.42 | Teht2 | ty! |
| 00:52.47 | Neffi | so tite B| |
| 00:53.20 | Xuerian | > I'll just ticket |
| 00:53.25 | Xuerian | znf: Who are you and what did you do with the real znf |
| 00:53.43 | znf | Xuerian, shhht! |
| 01:06.57 | Gethe | Semlar: so that part of the spires map is only distorted if you havent discovered it yet. |
| 01:07.16 | Semlar | yeah but that's some issue with the size of the texture |
| 01:07.29 | mikma | http://www.break.com/video/canadians-finish-singing-national-anthem-at-hockey-ga-2789358 |
| 01:07.30 | Semlar | i wonder if they changed the texture after i generated that info |
| 01:07.51 | Semlar | the original must have been smaller but used the same path |
| 01:08.04 | Gethe | possible |
| 01:08.25 | Semlar | it's not really a huge problem |
| 01:08.51 | Semlar | i'll update it at some point |
| 01:09.45 | Gethe | https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-textures/blob/d41a16baedee9522c8d49c8f7b763e8ca57a61f8/WorldMap/SpiresOfArak/HowlingCrag2.PNG |
| 01:09.49 | Gethe | half the size |
| 01:16.49 | Semlar | looks like 'howlingcrag/302/273/459/0' should be 'howlingcrag/382/274/459/0' |
| 01:17.01 | Semlar | i think that should fix it |
| 01:20.02 | Semlar | i should regenerate the whole file in case anything else has changed |
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| 01:26.02 | Semlar | but first i need to murder the postmaster |
| 01:26.54 | Neffi | are you a dog Semlar? |
| 01:27.05 | Semlar | bitch i might be |
| 01:27.21 | Xuerian | Semlar: Pls kill |
| 01:28.02 | Semlar | i hooked the mail frame's onupdate script to scan for junk and destroy it |
| 01:28.28 | Xuerian | There's some expensive junk, might want to filter for >5g or something |
| 01:28.36 | Semlar | well it loots it first |
| 01:29.00 | Semlar | the script attempts to loot everything it can and delete every empty mail |
| 01:29.08 | Xuerian | Then the option to trash junk <xg? :p |
| 01:29.49 | Semlar | i don't know if it will even let me delete something with attachments |
| 01:30.03 | Semlar | i was getting errors earlier like "cannot delete mail" but it might just be the api i'm using |
| 01:30.29 | Xuerian | Might have to do it after you loot it? |
| 01:31.37 | Semlar | it looks like there's also an api function to check if something can be deleted so i should probably be checking that first |
| 01:33.06 | Semlar | what i have works but only attempts to loot the mail if you have free slots and i need to change it to loop over your inventory to check for partial stacks of the item if your inventory is full |
| 01:33.15 | Xuerian | znf: Could you get Simca's Mission Complete to work? Curse client wouldn't install it, and now wow doesn't even load it. An impressive level of "that really shouldn't be happening" |
| 01:33.40 | znf | Xuerian, didn't try |
| 01:34.07 | Xuerian | Not that I don't like Breeze, I just wanna try it <.< |
| 01:34.11 | Simca | hm |
| 01:34.26 | Simca | maybe because i uploaded it to the repo before it was approved or something |
| 01:34.58 | Simca | uh, yeah. the folder name is wrong, lol |
| 01:35.14 | Simca | curseforge packaged it wrong |
| 01:36.37 | Simca | ah I apparently have to specify top level folder name in repo settings |
| 01:36.40 | Simca | derp |
| 01:37.04 | Xuerian | Heh, I forgot about the name having to match |
| 01:48.46 | znf | foxlit, here's another idea - reitinerate trough the counters needed and if all abilities will be met in $time, display that $time on the mission list (ie: if I have an ability available on a follower that comes back from a mission in 1 hour, display that time) |
| 01:49.25 | kd3 | haha, wow. the rag helm has FR on it? |
| 01:49.53 | znf | yeah |
| 01:49.56 | karl_w_w | you can't take a taxi while shapeshifted! |
| 01:50.02 | karl_w_w | so unshapeshift me! |
| 01:50.34 | kd3 | ugh, that was 2.5 hours I'm never getting back |
| 01:50.41 | karl_w_w | i wonder if you can make that happen in an addon |
| 01:51.32 | karl_w_w | im sure you can if it's a taxi from an npc |
| 01:51.38 | karl_w_w | and you're out of combat |
| 01:51.46 | znf | karl_w_w, really annoying, indeed :P |
| 01:52.28 | foxlit | elixir of giant growth + garrison doorway + cat form == stuck. |
| 01:53.08 | Xuerian | kd3: No mount? |
| 01:53.22 | foxlit | karl_w_w: interacting with the flightmaster usually cancels your shapeshift |
| 01:55.01 | kd3 | mount's in the mail |
| 01:56.11 | karl_w_w | yeah but not when it's a special flight for a quest foxlit |
| 01:56.57 | Simca | kd3: you aren't going to try again for the 10% chance at the pet or the 2.5% chance at the flames of ragnaros enchant? |
| 01:57.59 | znf | lol @ that tweet |
| 02:00.20 | Xuerian | The enchant is 2.5%? geez |
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| 02:03.06 | kd3 | maybe once I'm properly drunk |
| 02:03.28 | Semlar | what are the odds getiteminfo information isn't immediately available for mail items |
| 02:03.58 | Xuerian | Before or after you try to loot it? |
| 02:04.20 | Semlar | before, just scanning over your inbox checking the vendor price of items |
| 02:04.32 | Xuerian | No idea why it won't work |
| 02:04.34 | Amarande | there's two pets for this event? or is the fire corgi the thing you have to beat the raid for? |
| 02:04.41 | Xuerian | Yeah. |
| 02:04.45 | Semlar | fire corgi is sent in the mail just for logging in |
| 02:06.23 | Simca | hatespark the tiny is the ragnaros rare drop |
| 02:06.32 | tz | well that was unexpected |
| 02:06.34 | tz | rag 1-shot |
| 02:06.52 | kd3 | the bosses aren't the hard part |
| 02:06.56 | kd3 | it's bodypulling half the instance |
| 02:07.15 | Simca | generally by the time you get to rag, anyone who has been a problem has been kicked or quite |
| 02:07.17 | Simca | quit* |
| 02:07.24 | Amarande | yes, slow and steady beats the core :P |
| 02:07.24 | tz | yeah fair enough |
| 02:07.43 | Amarande | I've done molten core solo runs before on Kiruna |
| 02:08.15 | Amarande | only problem I've ever had is there's I seem to remember one type of trash mob that has an absolutely idiotically long silence effect |
| 02:08.23 | Simca | firelords |
| 02:08.31 | Semlar | we wiped a couple times just from pulling multiple packs or having a boss walk into us while fighting trash |
| 02:08.54 | Semlar | other than that it was fairly straightforward |
| 02:08.59 | Amarande | I really wish WoW would take a leaf from LOTRO in that regard, when it comes to debuffs |
| 02:09.16 | Amarande | in LOTRO most combat based debuffs "expire if out of combat for more than a short time" which is usually 10 seconds or so after going ooc |
| 02:09.19 | Semlar | well, the mobs have the same abilities they used to have |
| 02:09.26 | kd3 | amarande, how long had MC been out before LOTRO was even in a twinkle in the devs' eye? |
| 02:09.41 | Semlar | and the players all have cooldowns on their dispels |
| 02:09.56 | Amarande | kd3: well, it's not the only time I've seen debuffs with annoyingly long persistent durations after their relevancy is over |
| 02:10.10 | kd3 | that annoyed me to now end 8s cd on remove curse |
| 02:10.13 | Amarande | that serve no purpose but to make you hang around and wait for them to expire (because they're disabling enough) |
| 02:10.24 | Amarande | but it does also kinda seem like those are getting rarer |
| 02:10.28 | karl_w_w | most underrated tv show of all time: judging amy |
| 02:10.32 | Amarande | so I guess they are learning somewhat :) |
| 02:10.42 | Semlar | i haven't run into a debuff like that in a very long time |
| 02:10.54 | Semlar | aside from the ones in MC obviously because they haven't changed |
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| 02:11.13 | kd3 | I was calling for cleanses on garr until I realized that it was only burning 400 mana/tick |
| 02:11.24 | Semlar | and the 10 minute debuff from mass rez which shouldn't even exist |
| 02:12.08 | Amarande | Semlar: yeah, to refer to LOTRO again, they actually did away with having a debuff for dying altogether ... now it's just the walk back (when applicable) and the repair bill |
| 02:12.27 | Amarande | the community agreed that the debuff just served to make people sit around and wait for no good reason, and the devs agreed |
| 02:13.12 | Amarande | kd3: hah, it is fun to do old content and see how pathetic mechanics are now that used to be wipe makers |
| 02:13.45 | Amarande | or things like Kaz'Rogal in Hyjal ... now even if someone *does* zero out, it's going to barely scratch people |
| 02:14.11 | Amarande | although Corrupted Adrenaline is still as lethal as always |
| 02:15.53 | Hazal | Is it possible to temporarily unregister an event from a blizzard frame? |
| 02:15.56 | Amarande | oh, you mean the delay on mass rez between uses ... I guess they don't want repeated death to be completely without inconvenience :) |
| 02:16.09 | Semlar | Hazal: just call frame:UnregisterEvent on it and reregister it later |
| 02:26.45 | Hazal | Okay, could you do a bit more hand holding for me Semlar. So I'm trying to figure out why some guys Garrison addon lags, and it appears that what he does means that the event GARRISON_FOLLOWER_LIST_UPDATE gets called a ridiculous amount of times (unavoidable as far as I can see). But I think the actual lag happens when the http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/test/AddOns/Blizzard_GarrisonUI/Blizzard_GarrisonSharedTemplates.lua handles the event and ke |
| 02:28.46 | Semlar | your message got cut off, but if their addon is causing an infinite loop it would lock up the game |
| 02:30.03 | Hazal | Where did it cut off? |
| 02:30.15 | Semlar | "handles the event and ke" |
| 02:30.19 | Hazal | And it isn't an infinite loop, it's just a long loop |
| 02:30.37 | Semlar | well, the game will sometimes kill a loop |
| 02:30.43 | Hazal | handles the event and keeps sorting followers etc when the event is called. Soo if I need to figure out which frames are registered to this event right? I tried doing a /dump GetFramesRegisteredForEvent("event") for the event but it yielded a lot of info which couldn't even fit in my chat box. What to doo :) ? |
| 02:30.47 | Semlar | so it might just be timing out |
| 02:33.15 | Hazal | But I'm fairly sure the lag is caused by the fact that the follower list is resorted on every event update |
| 02:35.34 | Semlar | possibly GarrisonLandingPage |
| 02:38.29 | Semlar | GarrisonBuildingFrame, GarrisonMissionFrame, GarrisonLandingPage and GarrisonRecruitSelectFrame |
| 02:39.31 | Hazal | Is that the frames I should unregister it from? |
| 02:39.57 | Semlar | those are the frames with that event registered |
| 02:40.16 | Semlar | GarrisonLandingPage is the one calling the function you linked, i'm not sure about the rest |
| 02:40.54 | Semlar | there's actually an unnamed frame watching it as well but i don't know if that's an addon i'm running or one of blizzard's frames |
| 02:41.08 | Hazal | Ok thanks, I will make sure to mention you if I figure out how to fix this and send a fix to the author. |
| 02:42.53 | Semlar | if you do unregister the event and then change something that the other addons are supposed to react to, you might need to manually call their event handler after you're through |
| 02:43.18 | Hazal | Btw I was wondering how you got those icon names from your minimap on your unreleased minimap addon, did you resize the minimap to a tiny size where the cursor is and then read the tooltip? And then put it back to it's place & size? |
| 02:43.33 | Semlar | for the vignettes? |
| 02:43.42 | Hazal | No the one that scanned battlepet names :) |
| 02:43.47 | Semlar | oh |
| 02:43.59 | Semlar | more or less |
| 02:44.02 | Hazal | There's an API for vignettes |
| 02:45.08 | Semlar | i think you'll find trying to scan the minimap icons is going to be more trouble than it's worth |
| 02:45.15 | Hazal | But wow, unregistering those events fixed the lag COMPLETELY |
| 02:45.40 | Semlar | i wouldn't do it in an addon you plan on releasing, anyway |
| 03:22.09 | Torhal | Just made Toaster moar betterer. |
| 03:22.58 | Constie | The Postmaster mailed me a 665 BoE neck, and I don't mind that guy as much anymore. |
| 03:23.23 | tz | Torhal: oooo how |
| 03:23.44 | Torhal | tz: "Added support for user-defined spawn points via a draggable anchor and/or specifying a screen region with X and Y coordinates." |
| 03:23.52 | tz | omg <3 |
| 03:35.21 | Hazal | That seems pretty nice Torhal :) looking forward to seeing it implemented with some of the addons I use which uses Toaster |
| 03:35.51 | Torhal | Hazal: Oh, no - it's Toaster-user defined |
| 03:35.59 | Torhal | No implementation required for other AddOns. |
| 03:36.25 | Torhal | I wouldn't let each AddOn that used the lib have its own spawn point...that would be chaos. |
| 03:39.24 | Hazal | That's pretty cool, I never downloaded toaster addon before but I use addons which uses the LibToast. |
| 03:41.00 | Neffi | spreads soft butter all over Torhal. |
| 03:41.18 | pompy | that's so wrong! |
| 03:41.43 | Neffi | I think you mean, "so right" |
| 03:41.48 | Torhal | Yeah, Toaster is the control AddOn. |
| 03:42.01 | Neffi | what else is a toaster for? |
| 03:42.18 | Torhal | Warming Neffi's hands, of course. |
| 03:42.27 | Neffi | :D |
| 03:44.39 | Simca | <kd3> I was calling for cleanses on garr until I realized that it was only burning 400 mana/tick |
| 03:44.56 | Simca | the problem with 8sec cooldowns on cleanses in MC is that it is pointless to remove half of the stuff |
| 03:45.12 | Simca | because you can only remove it from 2-3 people max before the boss puts it on all 40 players again |
| 03:45.17 | Constie | Pad those dispel meters. |
| 03:46.00 | Simca | so it's worth keeping the mana burn stuff off the healers and -armor/-resist/-hp stuff off tanks, but other than that... |
| 03:46.14 | Simca | DPS were crying for decurses on luci and I was like "lol, deal with it." |
| 03:46.21 | Simca | "use your wands" |
| 03:47.16 | Amarande | heh, wonder if this sort of stuff causes hunters to become more popular than ever |
| 03:47.43 | Amarande | "ha ha you losers ... you still need mana ... LOLZ" |
| 03:48.22 | Constie | I'm glad my vanilla guild was small enough that we only went to MC once and otherwise spent our time in ZG, which was a million times more fun. |
| 03:48.53 | kd3 | anything was more fun than mc |
| 03:49.54 | karl_w_w | when did wow players all turn into 80 year tech-illiterates? http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/15271049504 |
| 03:50.07 | Amarande | kd3: if that was true, that was not a good thing, though |
| 03:51.14 | Amarande | karl_w_w: ugh, blizzard relying even more on twitter? |
| 03:51.43 | Amarande | :( I don't use twitter, don't really even care to use twitter, well unless steam is down and I need to find out why, anyway |
| 03:52.41 | Amarande | I had a twitter account once and basically never used it |
| 03:53.07 | Amarande | only reason I even registered it was because some friends of mine had a twitter set up to share goings on at Dragon Con and I had to be registered to be approved to follow |
| 03:53.56 | karl_w_w | okay then |
| 03:54.29 | karl_w_w | so if you don't use twitter you don't get to use twitter |
| 03:54.41 | kd3 | shocking |
| 03:55.29 | karl_w_w | people are reacting as if blizzard having a twitter account is some kind of personal offence against them because they don't also use twitter |
| 03:55.38 | Constie | Them using the forums for everything wouldn't make any difference for me, because I still wouldn't see every post of possible interest to me without MMO-Champion's summaries. |
| 03:57.01 | Amarande | (also, inb4 Torhal mocks me for the obvious "also, Amarande wouldn't want to be limited to 140 characters" :D) |
| 03:57.16 | Amarande | though, seriously ... 140 characters isn't even a full line on this irc window |
| 03:58.06 | karl_w_w | that's why they use twitter |
| 03:58.10 | Constie | Brevity is the soul of wi |
| 03:58.12 | karl_w_w | they're fucking devs |
| 03:58.28 | karl_w_w | I don't want them spending all their time reading the long winded morons on the forums |
| 03:59.13 | Amarande | karl_w_w: u wud rather they spend their time talking to txt talking ppl on twitter? heh |
| 03:59.28 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 03:59.40 | Amarande | wait, it's not txt talking, it's txt tlkn, isn't it |
| 03:59.51 | Amarande | gah, so glad I never learned to use textspeak |
| 03:59.56 | Torhal | txtlkn |
| 04:00.30 | Torhal | I still thwack pompy for typing "ur" and stuff of that sort. You have a full keyboard, use it! |
| 04:00.48 | Torhal | I can understand when it was 2003 and you had phonepads only for texting. |
| 04:01.09 | Constie | There's a "u"-sayer in my guild. He stands in fire a lot. Coincidence? No. |
| 04:01.14 | Amarande | Torhal: also, when texting actually was usually done *over* sms and you had pay per message and 160 character limits |
| 04:01.35 | Amarande | now most of the time people use things like facebook messenger, google chat or, yeah, twitter, where it's all data now anyway :P |
| 04:01.44 | Torhal | Yeah, at that point, spell like an idiot. But with today's phones and on actual keyboards? I weep. |
| 04:06.22 | Amarande | Constie: yes, if you're typing things during combat, there's probably a reason you're standing in fire right there |
| 04:07.05 | Amarande | I'm afraid he does indeed fail his Idiotest. No money for him. Although I'm sure the repair bill takes care of that part, LOL |
| 04:07.25 | Amarande | speaking of weeping, apparently the supposedly famous idiotest app the game show is based on is only for ios :( |
| 04:09.46 | pompy | Torhal: ur |
| 04:09.53 | Amarande | drat, google, you fail. I was looking for fun gamer posts on "why do raiders stand in fire" and instead I hear about the Oakland Raiders only |
| 04:10.14 | Torhal | thwacks pompy. |
| 04:10.15 | Amarande | though to be fair, those are the Raiders ... even the average LFR queuer wins more often than they do |
| 04:12.34 | Xuerian | Kesava: https://github.com/Xuerian/kuinameplates/commits/IcyMod |
| 04:14.20 | Xuerian | Or better, I guess: https://github.com/Xuerian/kuinameplates/compare/IcyMod?expand=1 |
| 04:15.50 | karl_w_w | well that's a first in my life |
| 04:16.00 | karl_w_w | a parcel was delivered on sunday |
| 04:17.05 | Torhal | USPS? They started doing that recently. |
| 04:17.36 | Amarande | Torhal: seriously? that's weird, especially with how much they've been cutting back lately |
| 04:18.20 | Torhal | First hit on Google: http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2014/11/06/usps-to-make-sunday-deliveries-during-holiday-season/ |
| 04:18.35 | karl_w_w | australia post actually, very unusual |
| 04:18.39 | Torhal | Ah |
| 04:19.05 | Amarande | ah, it is new |
| 04:19.11 | karl_w_w | they're only theoretically meant to do deliveries on weekdays and saturday mornings |
| 04:19.25 | Amarande | hm, if that is parcel only, maybe that will alleviate some of the problems for holiday e-shopping |
| 04:19.27 | karl_w_w | i say theoretically cos I've never heard of an actual delivery happening on saturday |
| 04:19.42 | Torhal | Amarande: They started doing it for Amazon in select cities last year. |
| 04:19.53 | Torhal | Los Angeles and New York. No idea if they branched out or not. |
| 04:20.09 | Torhal | I think this is for the season only, but permanent wouldn't hurt my feelings |
| 04:20.10 | Amarande | which is that so many of the parcels ending up in the care of the mail are through things like fedex smartpost, which means it's in some 9999999999th class mail that even junk mail normally has priority over |
| 04:20.41 | Amarande | although even if it was second class, it'd still be trouble, because the problem is that everyone's silly little christmas cards are FIRST class mail, which means they get priority over almost all the friggin parcels |
| 04:21.02 | Amarande | and there are so many of them every day that parcels get delayed randomly and sometimes horrendously, unless they're first class or priority themselves |
| 04:22.05 | Amarande | in today's age of modern technology it kind of boggles me, maybe it was more rational in simpler times ... but nowadays, boggling ... because where else in the world we live in is the bog standard consumer-frivolity tier service *ever* "first class" heh |
| 04:22.34 | karl_w_w | I still think having no classes is far superior |
| 04:25.23 | Amarande | however, I'm told (generally I try to order expedited delivery types that avoid the USPS, since I hate getting parcels in the actual postal mail anyway) that when ordering stuff during the holidays, "shipped via fedex smartpost" is the new phrase to dread (when we were kids, I believe, it was "batteries not included") |
| 04:25.56 | Amarande | fedex smartpost: package gets to the post office like greased lightning and then they dicker around with it for amounts of time which, at the holidays, are based described as "aeons" |
| 04:26.24 | pompy | Torhal: i got something on sunday last week |
| 04:26.45 | pompy | From USPS, something I ordered on Amazon |
| 04:27.24 | karl_w_w | aus post transitioned extremely well into being primarily a parcel delivery service |
| 04:28.13 | pompy | he showed up at 11am, it was sweet. |
| 04:28.28 | karl_w_w | when i hear stories about usps they sound like a nightmare |
| 04:29.06 | pompy | meh |
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| 04:35.53 | karl_w_w | well that's 1 christmas present down, ~40 bajillion to go |
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| 04:53.00 | karl_w_w | are we gonna get to see teron gorefiend become the first death knight in this expansion? |
| 04:53.04 | Seerah | How did I not see this until today? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0u4M6vppCI |
| 04:53.18 | Seerah | Clicky^^^ |
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| 04:57.30 | karl_w_w | haha that's awesome Seerah |
| 04:58.06 | karl_w_w | and that clap at the end |
| 04:59.07 | Seerah | :D |
| 05:00.06 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_e-CNh-gc8 if nobody realised |
| 05:00.59 | Seerah | Thanks - I thought it was familiar from something. :) |
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| 05:05.59 | karl_w_w | I ended up on this, which turned out to be fun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip0XlEmJafk |
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| 05:14.57 | Seerah | karl_w_w: haha |
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| 06:07.21 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: omg :D |
| 06:20.49 | Semlar | is there a simple way to check if you can carry any more of a unique item |
| 06:21.09 | Semlar | or do i have to scan the tooltip to even tell if an item is unique |
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| 08:00.20 | karl_w_w | what, 18 person login queue? |
| 08:00.22 | karl_w_w | madness! |
| 08:05.45 | Lynxium | Is there any good alternative to the addon LoseControl? |
| 08:14.52 | Gnarfoz | to answer that, we'd need to know what it does |
| 08:17.04 | Lynxium | sure, I'll cite "LoseControl makes it easy to see the duration of crowd control spells by displaying them in a dedicated icon onscreen." |
| 08:17.40 | Lynxium | can see some images here http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/losecontrol |
| 08:25.15 | Lynxium | if there are no alternatives I guess I'll write one on my spare time but I want to make sure that there is no replacement first |
| 08:25.17 | Gnarfoz | I guess you could recreate something like that with the more general purpose AuraFrames |
| 08:25.43 | Gnarfoz | (and why do you want to replace it in the first place?) |
| 08:25.58 | Gnarfoz | someone even fixed it for 6.0 already, link is in the Curse comments |
| 08:25.59 | Lynxium | it's no longer maintained |
| 08:27.01 | Lynxium | yeah but again it's not maintained so I'd rather have an alternative or maintain it or write one myself |
| 08:27.43 | Gnarfoz | I don't see how something requires constant "maintenance" to be usable, but to each their own, I guess |
| 08:28.29 | Gnarfoz | I don't pvp much so I don't know an addon that specializes on that particular area |
| 08:28.36 | Lynxium | :D |
| 08:32.51 | Lynxium | I'll try the fix :) |
| 08:34.14 | Gnarfoz | the addon is licensed as Public Domain, you could take it over if you wanted |
| 08:34.42 | Lynxium | Yeah |
| 08:34.57 | Lynxium | not sure how it works on curse tho, can I just fork it? |
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| 08:35.25 | Semlar | you can't just go around forking everything |
| 08:35.28 | Torhal | Lynxium: That's the only thing you can do, if you can't contact the author and have them transfer the project. |
| 08:35.45 | Torhal | We no longer transfer projects without owner approval. |
| 08:35.55 | Semlar | forks torhal |
| 08:36.04 | Torhal | knives Semlar. |
| 08:36.08 | Semlar | dies |
| 08:37.31 | Lynxium | Torhal, I'll try contact the author, otherwise, I'll fork it I guess or write one but I'll do something haha |
| 08:50.34 | Gnarfoz | doing is mostly good |
| 08:50.48 | Lynxium | yeah :) |
| 08:50.54 | Lynxium | Semlar, why I can't do that? the license allows that.. |
| 08:51.03 | Gnarfoz | he's being silly |
| 08:51.10 | Lynxium | haha |
| 08:51.21 | Semlar | :x |
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| 09:24.03 | p3lim | any of you got the barracks and a bodyguard? |
| 09:24.35 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 09:24.59 | p3lim | which one? |
| 09:25.04 | Gnarfoz | all of them |
| 09:25.06 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 09:25.06 | nevcairiel | depends on my mood |
| 09:25.08 | p3lim | :D |
| 09:25.15 | Gnarfoz | Ishal is pretty rad |
| 09:25.16 | nevcairiel | i like delvar |
| 09:25.20 | p3lim | I need their npcids once "summoned" |
| 09:25.27 | Gnarfoz | 8 s stun w/ 20% increased damage |
| 09:26.01 | p3lim | all of mine are stuck in 4-20 hr long missions :p |
| 09:26.56 | Gnarfoz | what's the API for that? |
| 09:27.02 | p3lim | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:27.28 | Ivnedar | Leorajh is pretty awesome |
| 09:27.36 | Gnarfoz | 10:27:18|Dump: value=UnitGUID'target' |
| 09:27.36 | Gnarfoz | 10:27:18|[1]="Creature-0-3768-1159-29349-86927-000071A868" |
| 09:27.40 | Gnarfoz | ^ Delvar Ironfist |
| 09:27.49 | p3lim | check |
| 09:27.50 | Ivnedar | mobile garrison mission board :D |
| 09:27.57 | p3lim | 5 to go :D |
| 09:28.11 | Gnarfoz | my others are on missions, too ^^ |
| 09:28.17 | p3lim | yeah.. |
| 09:28.31 | p3lim | they have odd names for the summoned ones |
| 09:28.46 | p3lim | for immersion reasons or something |
| 09:28.54 | Gnarfoz | which one is the npcid? 86927? |
| 09:28.56 | Ivnedar | "Creature-0-3017-1159-3151-86964-000071A1C7" |
| 09:28.57 | p3lim | pretty much makes it impossible to search on wowi for |
| 09:28.59 | p3lim | y |
| 09:29.04 | Ivnedar | for Leorajh |
| 09:29.08 | p3lim | thanks |
| 09:29.25 | Gnarfoz | hah |
| 09:29.30 | Gnarfoz | that's the name other players see |
| 09:29.38 | p3lim | yup |
| 09:29.50 | Gnarfoz | but they overlay it with the name of the follower if it's yours |
| 09:29.52 | Gnarfoz | interesting |
| 09:30.23 | p3lim | immersion http://i.imgur.com/UmpOi.gif |
| 09:30.28 | nevcairiel | i can do tormmok once i'm back at the garrison |
| 09:30.32 | p3lim | nice |
| 09:30.55 | p3lim | I can get both the horde specific ones in about 3 hours |
| 09:31.53 | Ivnedar | 0-3017-1159-86682-000071A96F for Tormmok |
| 09:31.58 | p3lim | cheers |
| 09:32.08 | Ivnedar | oops, with a -3151- in there |
| 09:32.23 | p3lim | it's the 6th number that I'm after :) |
| 09:32.25 | Ivnedar | others on missions |
| 09:33.27 | Ivnedar | I keep Leorajh as my bodyguard so I don't have to leave the garrison pond to manage missions :) |
| 09:33.40 | p3lim | nice while rep farming :) |
| 09:33.51 | p3lim | or camping rares |
| 09:33.58 | Ivnedar | definitely |
| 09:36.57 | Simca | p3lim: which two are the horde specific ones? |
| 09:37.00 | Simca | i can get them for you |
| 09:37.09 | p3lim | aeda brightdawn and vivianne |
| 09:37.11 | p3lim | I got the first one |
| 09:37.43 | Simca | is their ID when walking around the garrison same as when a bodyguard? |
| 09:37.49 | p3lim | no |
| 09:37.52 | Simca | k |
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| 09:48.50 | Ivnedar | 86946 for Talonpriest Ishaal |
| 09:48.55 | Ivnedar | if that's the bit you need |
| 09:49.20 | Ivnedar | -000071AD62 if you need the last bit :P |
| 09:49.21 | p3lim | should be, thanks |
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| 10:19.15 | Semlar | anyone know how to remove the rubble/boulders in frostfire to get at the treasure |
| 10:19.55 | Semlar | the tracking quests have "blasting charges" in their name |
| 10:21.19 | p3lim | arena outpost |
| 10:21.23 | p3lim | you probably have the mill |
| 10:21.26 | Semlar | in frostfire? |
| 10:21.32 | p3lim | nah in gorgrond |
| 10:21.41 | Semlar | i'm talking about the cave-in things in frostfire |
| 10:21.44 | p3lim | oh |
| 10:21.51 | p3lim | think it's profession quests |
| 10:21.53 | Semlar | there are like 4 treasures marked with boulders |
| 10:22.00 | Semlar | profession quests? |
| 10:22.22 | karl_w_w | I don't get what all this ruckus is about, it seems everyone is losing their heads over ISIS |
| 10:22.57 | p3lim | I don't know, I've done all the treasures in fr |
| 10:24.36 | Semlar | that you know of |
| 10:25.01 | Semlar | i don't think we ever found out what these were for |
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| 10:43.13 | VIad | lame about those hidden factions related to invasions |
| 10:43.28 | VIad | wish I could see my standing with them to know how far I am away from an invasion :p i.e. 1712 |
| 10:44.13 | VIad | Semlar: working on a treasure addon? |
| 10:44.22 | Semlar | no i made one on the beta |
| 10:45.28 | Semlar | uh i just read that followers get half the base experience for being a single level under the mission, is that true? |
| 10:45.47 | Semlar | is there some reason it doesn't show any of this in the ui |
| 10:46.45 | karl_w_w | because wow are great at UI |
| 10:46.49 | karl_w_w | or so I'm told |
| 10:46.52 | VIad | purposefull deceit? |
| 10:47.58 | Semlar | well, i've been trying to figure out why it's taking so long to level my followers and apparently you're supposed to send them on missions regardless of whether they can counter anything for the base experience |
| 10:48.18 | Semlar | and you should basically only ever send them on missions with the exact same level? |
| 10:51.06 | nevcairiel | i do try to make sure the ones i need to level are always busy, no matter if they can counter or not |
| 10:51.27 | nevcairiel | preferably on-level missions, but also missions they out-level if nothing else is available, but i avoid missions which they are too low for |
| 10:51.35 | nevcairiel | .. and at 21 100's now |
| 10:51.58 | zenzelezz | I love how they can make a big, advanced game like Dragon Age Inquisition, but they can't take the time to make their "Click to continue" screen accept keyboard input as "click" |
| 10:57.49 | VIad | I enjoy the tomtom comment "-- TODO: Make this not suck" |
| 10:58.38 | zenzelezz | sounds a bit like my code |
| 11:06.26 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:06.35 | VIad | you're welcome |
| 11:23.18 | karl_w_w | is DA:I good zenzelezz? |
| 11:23.45 | karl_w_w | no wait, don't tell me |
| 11:23.52 | karl_w_w | I don't have time for more games atm |
| 11:32.39 | Gnarfoz | VIad: there's UI for it: they're shown in orange. if they're red, they get 10% (recently hotfixed from 0%) |
| 11:37.46 | karl_w_w | there's a cave in the corner of the level 3 garrison which I only just noticed |
| 11:38.04 | Semlar | the one under water? |
| 11:38.07 | karl_w_w | which has nothing but uninteractable druids of the talon in it |
| 11:38.17 | karl_w_w | not under water |
| 11:38.25 | karl_w_w | the one I found on alliance side at least |
| 11:38.37 | Semlar | kill them all! |
| 11:39.16 | karl_w_w | I can't! |
| 11:39.33 | Semlar | NUKE THEM |
| 11:39.55 | Semlar | i need something to use my nuke on anyway |
| 11:40.05 | Semlar | it won't let me use it in dungeons |
| 11:40.23 | Semlar | probably because it does 500k aoe damage |
| 11:43.26 | VIad | Gnarfoz: leveling them to epic is so slow :( |
| 11:43.36 | Gnarfoz | VIad: yes it is ^^ |
| 11:43.54 | Gnarfoz | hope for the 10k/12k/20k rare missions |
| 11:44.11 | VIad | got a 24 hour mission |
| 11:44.32 | VIad | Tower of Terror |
| 11:44.50 | znf | I think I failed most of my 10-20k missions :( |
| 11:47.23 | VIad | wish bodyguards got xp/level |
| 11:49.59 | mikma | semlar: NUKE THEM as in http://www.wowhead.com/item=115530 |
| 11:50.13 | Semlar | yeah |
| 11:51.51 | Semlar | "As of right now, it is not restricted to just Draenor, I've used it in the old world and also in the brawler's guild arena." :| |
| 11:54.46 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:00.27 | VIad | can I just kill orcs from the iron horde and expect invasion? |
| 12:00.51 | Dagmar | Probably |
| 12:01.12 | Dagmar | I spent a couple hours randonly killing those guys and had them come instead of the Arakkoa |
| 12:01.28 | Dagmar | ...the latter of whom I'd been pissing off every day with Apexis quests |
| 12:01.31 | VIad | does it have to be daily places? |
| 12:01.48 | VIad | i.e. nagrand thrall area |
| 12:01.52 | VIad | garrosh |
| 12:01.55 | VIad | lots of iron horde |
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| 12:04.30 | VIad | would be nice with an indicator is all |
| 12:05.34 | Dagmar | The "daily places" are about the only places you'll find those kinds of vicious mobs |
| 12:07.39 | VIad | but... maybe a bar to 100% to fill for the weekly :p |
| 12:07.48 | VIad | also lots of warsong and iron horde camps |
| 12:07.51 | VIad | in leveling zones |
| 12:08.02 | VIad | they should count too :( |
| 12:08.08 | VIad | what about the ironfist harbor? |
| 12:08.14 | VIad | iron orcs, 100, not elites |
| 12:08.20 | VIad | easier aoe grind |
| 12:08.53 | Mr_Rabies | i like that there's no bar, tbh |
| 12:09.36 | Mr_Rabies | i wish there wasn't even an "accept quest" thing |
| 12:09.42 | Mr_Rabies | just go back to garrison, see it on fire with whatever attacking |
| 12:09.55 | VIad | didnt get any invasion last week |
| 12:09.58 | VIad | did each daily |
| 12:10.00 | VIad | :/ |
| 12:10.13 | VIad | how many do I have to kill to get one invasion? |
| 12:10.21 | Mr_Rabies | i like that it feels more organic |
| 12:10.31 | VIad | I feel like a murderer |
| 12:10.36 | VIad | without anyone fighting back |
| 12:10.48 | VIad | 90-100 wasn't exactly friendly with the natives |
| 12:10.58 | VIad | let alone the week worth of 100 content farming |
| 12:11.06 | VIad | ought to have had one visit at least |
| 12:13.00 | VIad | wouldn't organic mean "kill what ever type of mob you like - it counts" ? |
| 12:13.19 | VIad | i.e. if I wanna beef with the ogres their deaths would contribute to an ogre invasion |
| 12:13.32 | VIad | so far what I saw was "go kill in these areas if you want to trigger invasion" and it seems less organic |
| 12:13.40 | VIad | an unlisted "go kill stuff here" quest |
| 12:16.28 | Mr_Rabies | it seems they're not really giving out much info on how it works, but you may be right |
| 12:16.39 | Mr_Rabies | i'd rather it be more organic |
| 12:16.47 | VIad | they already say "it's organic" |
| 12:16.49 | VIad | but is it? :P |
| 12:16.59 | VIad | if it boils down to killing the mobs in the daily areas |
| 12:17.06 | VIad | then it's as static as anything else |
| 12:17.48 | Mr_Rabies | if it's that simple then yeah, it's not really organic, but i doubt it is |
| 12:17.53 | VIad | "When you kill level 100 mobs (in the areas for Apexis Crystal Quests), you have a chance that the enemies will prepare to attack your garrison in retaliation." |
| 12:18.00 | VIad | ( http://www.wowhead.com/guide=2700/garrison-invasions ) |
| 12:18.14 | VIad | these level 99 mobs obviously aren't cared for I guess :p |
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| 12:18.27 | VIad | I can farm them all i want and no one will retaliate! /manicallaughter |
| 12:18.55 | Mr_Rabies | that's not so bad, honestly, gameplay should trump all and they shouldn't encourage people farming low level quest mobs to trigger an invasion |
| 12:19.35 | VIad | no but it's a dead zone |
| 12:19.37 | Mr_Rabies | just imagine the lower level troops are just peons that the iron horde doesn't really care about, or something, if you need it to make that kind of sense |
| 12:19.41 | VIad | level 99, only has like one quest and bonus objective |
| 12:19.46 | VIad | huge harbor with lots of warsong |
| 12:20.13 | Mr_Rabies | there's no real proof that that's not contributing in some way to an invasion, either, yet |
| 12:20.15 | Cairenn | <random> What an odd combination of names - Ishmael Gonzales </random> |
| 12:21.01 | Mr_Rabies | yeah the garrison guide on wowhead says that, but i don't see much proof about how they work, and blizzard's chosen not to offer any |
| 12:21.40 | Alram | kill xxx of mobs of a group that has invasions enabled |
| 12:21.41 | Alram | get invaded |
| 12:22.15 | Mr_Rabies | Cairenn: my brain is too tired to handle that name right now |
| 12:22.27 | Cairenn | Heh, I know, right? |
| 12:22.28 | Mr_Rabies | it's plagued with images of cartoon mice chasing down whales |
| 12:22.34 | Cairenn | hahahha |
| 12:22.56 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 12:23.22 | Mr_Rabies | ahab chased the whale not ishmael but my brain still makes the connection |
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| 12:26.38 | VIad | the 99 mobs drop like 5 armor scraps |
| 12:26.48 | VIad | I got 5 armor scraps from the elite daily area today farming for the quest |
| 12:26.51 | VIad | funny balance... |
| 12:27.03 | VIad | no joke - like each 10-15 mobs is guaranteed 2-4 scraps |
| 12:30.33 | VIad | could be luck xD |
| 12:31.55 | VIad | wonder how wowhead handles the new loot system |
| 12:32.06 | VIad | personal loot, drops that only drop during specific criteria, e.g. |
| 12:32.11 | VIad | things that skew the % |
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| 12:55.59 | squeakytoy2 | any holy paladin here? |
| 12:59.33 | karl_w_w | something like 5 years on and blizzard still hasnt fixed the bug where chat messages you send are tagged as away when your away flag was cancelled by a loading screen |
| 13:04.53 | Simca | Vlad: they let the data be skewed |
| 13:04.58 | Simca | there isn't any other sane solution |
| 13:05.37 | Simca | there have situational drops for 10 years called quest items and no database site has ever restricted the data to get true drop %s for quest items |
| 13:05.51 | Simca | this is no different |
| 13:09.10 | VIad | Simca: personal loot could be mitigated with reading the API for groups at least |
| 13:09.19 | VIad | to not skew when groups select group loot :) |
| 13:09.24 | VIad | or any other method for that matter |
| 13:09.45 | Simca | quest items could have their real data recorded by parsing the quest log and associating the drops with the available quests |
| 13:10.09 | VIad | stuff like that yes |
| 13:10.13 | VIad | context tracking |
| 13:10.14 | Simca | not enough people care about the data being that precise for the database sites to bother |
| 13:10.20 | VIad | not just brute event logging without context |
| 13:10.24 | VIad | :( |
| 13:11.31 | Simca | i was the first person in 7 years to notice that the rare mobs on kalimdor aren't dropping the right set of world drops |
| 13:11.40 | Simca | nobody looks closely at loot data |
| 13:13.24 | karl_w_w | 89,1; 32,5 |
| 13:13.34 | karl_w_w | people in wowhead comments trying to give coordinates |
| 13:14.59 | Simca | that's just europeans being weird and using commas in place of decimals probably |
| 13:18.14 | Simca | there is a Summon Random Favorite Mount button in the mount journal |
| 13:18.31 | Simca | but /use [swimming] Fishing Raft, Summon Random Favorite Mount |
| 13:18.33 | Simca | doesn't work |
| 13:18.40 | VIad | 89,1. 32,5 |
| 13:21.46 | karl_w_w | is this where we call them yuropoors? |
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| 13:27.25 | VIad | I use no decimals if there isn't a need for real accuracy :p |
| 13:29.01 | Mr_Rabies | are there any addons that add a sound to the premade group invite yet? i can't find any :( |
| 13:29.25 | Mr_Rabies | i've got alttabber that adds sounds for just about everything, but it's essentially abandoned as far as i know |
| 13:29.54 | Mr_Rabies | (and doesn't support the premade group invite) |
| 13:30.20 | VIad | :( |
| 13:37.17 | Mr_Rabies | not really sure why that doesn't have a sound by default |
| 13:37.43 | Mr_Rabies | 5 minute window to be accepted and no sound if they invite you is a bit weird |
| 13:46.47 | Gnarfoz | uh |
| 13:46.50 | Gnarfoz | it does have a sound. |
| 13:46.58 | Gnarfoz | or which one do you mean oO |
| 13:47.37 | Gnarfoz | the queue popup? |
| 13:47.51 | Mr_Rabies | the premade group invite window makes no sound, when you're invited |
| 13:47.56 | Mr_Rabies | it just kinda |
| 13:47.57 | Mr_Rabies | shows up |
| 13:48.09 | Mr_Rabies | so if you're alt-tabbed out there's no notification at all |
| 13:52.07 | Gnarfoz | can't be hard to get the name of the window/event and hook it, can it |
| 13:52.19 | Gnarfoz | (especially if an addon like that is already out there, even easier to expand? :D) |
| 13:54.31 | Mr_Rabies | ~seen ackis |
| 13:54.34 | purl | ackis <~Ackis@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis> was last seen on IRC in channel #arl, 1d 16h 58m 33s ago, saying: 'odd'. |
| 13:54.42 | Gnarfoz | and gtfo Simca, "decimal comma" is correct, screw your decimal "point" :D |
| 13:54.43 | mikma | shirik: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JelcQ3ijAgg ;) |
| 13:54.43 | Mr_Rabies | weird |
| 13:55.03 | Gnarfoz | and clearly, VIad, wow zones are big enough for that precision to be useful |
| 13:56.27 | Mr_Rabies | shirik: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGvdVXxFkY4 |
| 13:58.18 | Simca | i'm glad europe is willing to share in the ability to be wrong. we get to be wrong about systems of measurement, you get to be wrong about how to write them |
| 14:00.40 | Gnarfoz | clearly, being in the minority is lost on you |
| 14:01.33 | Gnarfoz | (we're both dumb for not using a third, unambiguous option) |
| 14:02.28 | Mr_Rabies | SI is pretty sweet other than celcius, it's barely usable for people but great for math and science (in comparison to fahrehneit, which is pretty great for people and harder for math and science) |
| 14:03.29 | Leosky | just habits |
| 14:03.41 | Leosky | never had trouble with celscius |
| 14:03.50 | Gnarfoz | apparently, both of you do :D |
| 14:03.56 | Gnarfoz | it's Celsius ;) |
| 14:04.06 | Gnarfoz | (and Fahrenheit! :P) |
| 14:04.48 | Simca | Celsius is a more compact scale, so it has less precision if you're only using whole numbers |
| 14:04.58 | Gnarfoz | (which you don't) |
| 14:05.01 | Simca | i think that was the basis of Mr_Rabies' claim |
| 14:05.54 | Mr_Rabies | more or less |
| 14:05.55 | Gnarfoz | I can see the argument, but having used Celsius all my life, I'm not sure I find Fahrenheit's higher resolution useful |
| 14:06.56 | Simca | my mother would argue its merits - if the AC is set to 73 she'll complain it is too warm until it is lowered to 72 |
| 14:06.59 | Gnarfoz | 26 °C feels almost the same as 27 °C *shrug* |
| 14:07.16 | Mr_Rabies | one degree of difference is discernable in fahrenheit but it's more compact in celcius |
| 14:07.20 | Gnarfoz | if you *told* your mom it's set to 72 now, she'd also be happy, probably? :D |
| 14:07.41 | Gnarfoz | huh? if anything, it would have to be the other way around, Mr_Rabies |
| 14:08.16 | Simca | yeah, probably, Gnarfoz |
| 14:09.05 | Gnarfoz | let's all use Réaumur |
| 14:13.39 | karl_w_w | does anything happen in tanaan jungle? |
| 14:15.02 | Ivnedar | alliance starting area |
| 14:15.08 | Mr_Rabies | right now just the starter quests and the boosted char quests (which may be the same thing?) |
| 14:15.21 | Mr_Rabies | oh, horde doesn't start in tanaan as well? |
| 14:15.35 | Mr_Rabies | thrall goes through the dark portal as well, if i recall |
| 14:16.02 | Ivnedar | maybe they do, thought horde started at frostfire or something |
| 14:16.04 | Mr_Rabies | (i know he's not exactly -horde- anymore |
| 14:16.07 | Ivnedar | no horde toons, so unsure :) |
| 14:16.22 | Mr_Rabies | well we get whisked to SMV very quickly |
| 14:16.29 | Mr_Rabies | i imagine it's the same for frostfire |
| 14:16.30 | karl_w_w | hoirde start in frostfire |
| 14:16.36 | karl_w_w | alliance start in shadowmoon |
| 14:16.45 | Ivnedar | ah, so frostfire is the smv equiv? that makes sense |
| 14:19.12 | Mr_Rabies | it starts in tanaan and very quickly becomes this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1BDM1oBRJ8 (some harsh language and yelling, so if you're at work with speakers, etc probably not the best idea) |
| 14:19.19 | Kesava | they both have the intro in tanaan |
| 14:21.28 | Mr_Rabies | man |
| 14:21.37 | Mr_Rabies | i still don't really understand some of the starter quests |
| 14:21.50 | Mr_Rabies | releasing the shadow council is the worst idea, jeez |
| 14:22.39 | Mr_Rabies | like, our characters should know better than to do that at this point |
| 14:23.14 | Mr_Rabies | oh, they're directly powering the dark portal? we should probably just kill them while they're predisposed then! |
| 14:25.10 | karl_w_w | is this the first time chromie has been voiced? |
| 14:28.52 | Dagmar | Well... they were hanging in the air there, and pretty hard to reach without some sort of stepladder of footstool |
| 14:29.22 | Dagmar | You were there. You saw it. They were at least twenty feet in the air. |
| 14:29.35 | Dagmar | Reaching that far would be like, hard. |
| 14:29.58 | Dagmar | However, fancy rock. Doesn't fight back. Sits on the ground. Relatively hard to miss.. |
| 14:33.59 | Kesava | karl_w_w: she's got unique greetings, apart from that i don't think she's had full dialog before |
| 14:34.47 | Kesava | since at least timeless isle anyway |
| 14:35.17 | Mr_Rabies | i forget if she's voiced in the CoT Strat instance |
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| 14:38.35 | Simca | anyone know if there is a way to know whether or not you're at the mission NPC? |
| 14:39.16 | Simca | the NPC_OPENED; NPC_CLOSED events could work but I always worry about events misfiring |
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| 14:45.29 | Fisker | morning Ressy |
| 14:45.42 | Ressy | morning |
| 15:07.52 | VIad | Simca: mission NPC |
| 15:07.54 | VIad | well |
| 15:08.05 | VIad | there is a specific frame visible when you are at it :;P |
| 15:08.09 | VIad | :IsShown() ? |
| 15:08.16 | Simca | addons hide that routinely |
| 15:08.25 | Simca | replacement garrison UI addons |
| 15:09.10 | VIad | hmm |
| 15:09.19 | VIad | how do they detect? events probably. |
| 15:11.16 | VIad | curiosity, what kind of addons replace the UI? :p |
| 15:11.20 | VIad | only seen enhancements yet |
| 15:18.12 | g0urra | who's the genius at blizzard that thought blocking the ner'zhul boss room was a good idea |
| 15:30.54 | karl_w_w | im sure follower missions are rigged |
| 15:31.13 | karl_w_w | as soon as you find a guy to counter a mechanic, that mechanic stops appearing altogether |
| 15:31.19 | Dagmar | It feels like it, but I also know my followers presently have a very limited skillset |
| 15:31.25 | Dagmar | Most of them have the same three counters |
| 15:31.55 | karl_w_w | and ilvl doesnt seem to make any difference |
| 15:32.18 | Dagmar | So I've got this giant backlog of missions with a <30% chance to succeed, and the higher level missions are _very_ unforgiving about not having the right counters |
| 15:32.31 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 15:32.49 | karl_w_w | my highest ilvl guy is 619 and he doesnt show any higher chance of winning than a 600 guy |
| 15:33.34 | karl_w_w | what happens when they reach level 101? |
| 15:33.35 | Alram | ashran is a bitch http://marlamin.com/u/2014-11-23_16-33-14-2M2A96xX.png |
| 15:33.36 | Dagmar | Yeah I suspect those only affect getting you the achievement |
| 15:33.55 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: ilvl is only gating for dungeon missions, it doesnt increase the chances |
| 15:34.07 | Ivnedar | xp over 100 takes them to the next rarity |
| 15:34.13 | Dagmar | There's _dungeon_ missions? Yech |
| 15:34.16 | Ivnedar | until they're epic 100, then xp is ignored |
| 15:34.27 | Dagmar | I suppose I should spreading out the gear soon then |
| 15:34.31 | nevcairiel | once you have your first follower at ilvl 615 you unlock dungeon missions |
| 15:34.53 | nevcairiel | because of that it makes sense to collect a bit of gear before you push one over 615 |
| 15:35.03 | nevcairiel | so you can push a whole group over 615 and actually do the missions |
| 15:35.38 | karl_w_w | im on my first abrogator stone mission |
| 15:35.47 | karl_w_w | got 75% chance on it |
| 15:35.52 | karl_w_w | 1 mechanic not countered |
| 15:35.58 | karl_w_w | out of 5 |
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| 15:49.24 | karl_w_w | if your follower levels up to rare or epic does it gain counters? |
| 15:49.42 | karl_w_w | or traits |
| 15:49.56 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 15:50.03 | nevcairiel | greens have 1+1, blues 1+2, epics 2+3 |
| 15:51.46 | karl_w_w | noice' |
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| 16:19.36 | Dagmar | Just count on them being the counters half your team already has |
| 16:30.08 | Kesava | get it? count? |
| 16:32.22 | Dagmar | :) |
| 16:35.09 | foxlit | how do item levels for followers work? |
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| 16:37.28 | karl_w_w | 615 = they can go on dungeon missions |
| 16:37.32 | karl_w_w | thats it |
| 16:37.39 | foxlit | what does "can" mean in this context? |
| 16:37.49 | Kesava | they're white at that level |
| 16:37.51 | foxlit | If it's not 615, you physically can't place them into the mission slots? |
| 16:38.07 | Kesava | you can, but they're red at 600 and don't counter |
| 16:38.27 | Kesava | 601 is enough to make them orange. though i'm not sure if that means they can counter |
| 16:38.28 | foxlit | so 10% xp gain and no counters? |
| 16:38.48 | foxlit | vs 50% xp gain and counter-but-with-penalty? |
| 16:39.01 | Kesava | i assume so |
| 16:39.15 | Kesava | i'm not sure if xp still applies to them but i don't see why it wouldn;t |
| 16:40.14 | foxlit | counts for rarity upgrades (I seem to be having way better luck with those on an alt than on the main :() |
| 16:40.44 | foxlit | "Collect 10 Blackwater WHiptail Eggs from Spires of Arak: 'I need you to search the waters in Talador for fish..." |
| 16:41.27 | nevcairiel | yeah :p |
| 17:07.41 | Fisker | hey foxlit |
| 17:15.13 | NuSuey | http://pastebin.com/JTA9sEAw this should work.. shouldnt it? :X worked before and I dunno what I did wrong |
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| 17:24.12 | VIad | in draenor [flying] checks out -_- |
| 17:25.23 | VIad | so... a dynamic flying/ground macro is not easy anymore :p |
| 17:29.05 | Neffi | what even http://imgur.com/gallery/YjizX |
| 17:30.55 | fewyn | i've got a bunch of 615 missions that i just sent whatever might complete them |
| 17:31.02 | fewyn | so sad |
| 17:31.07 | fewyn | they were about to disappear tho |
| 17:31.23 | fewyn | if the 48 hour expiration is true that is |
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| 17:38.01 | mikma | shirik: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj_ByD5-qGA |
| 17:38.35 | NuSuey | so.. who can help me with the issue? |
| 17:40.04 | Semlar | what you pasted is not the whole code |
| 17:40.10 | Semlar | so i have no idea what this is supposed to do |
| 17:41.09 | NuSuey | Semlar: well it is the complete code.. >.< (just didn't paste all the other if(s)) |
| 17:41.19 | Semlar | it can't be, logohooksecurefunc is not a function |
| 17:42.10 | NuSuey | oh! |
| 17:42.13 | mikma | :) |
| 17:42.16 | NuSuey | found it |
| 17:42.20 | mikma | [19:42:10] logohooksecurefunc => nil |
| 17:42.22 | NuSuey | you are awesome :) thanks |
| 17:42.48 | Semlar | >_> |
| 17:43.26 | NuSuey | I looked at it before for a loong time and couldn't find what the hell is wrong with it |
| 17:43.42 | Semlar | well that should be throwing a lua error |
| 17:43.48 | Semlar | so maybe you don't have lua errors enabled |
| 17:45.14 | p3lim | Semlar: in the data files, does it simply say what kind of disenchanting skill is required for each item? |
| 17:45.27 | Semlar | i have no idea |
| 17:45.59 | Semlar | that seems like it would be server side though |
| 17:46.25 | p3lim | hm.. might |
| 17:51.19 | Semlar | it's possibly in the itemcache |
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| 18:34.28 | VIad | I thought they don't use the cache files anymore. |
| 19:03.45 | karl_w_w | does anyone here use a sound card? |
| 19:21.57 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: I actually do |
| 19:23.36 | karl_w_w | are you glad? :P |
| 19:24.28 | zenzelezz | given the circumstances, ys |
| 19:24.31 | zenzelezz | *yes |
| 19:24.39 | zenzelezz | the mic port on my onboard audio was fucked |
| 19:24.51 | zenzelezz | so there was little choice, beyond returning the motherboard |
| 19:25.14 | Iriel | I technically do since thereâs now a USB thing between me and my headphones. |
| 19:32.32 | Thunder_Child | Bashiok sounds a whole lot like groot. |
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| 19:33.05 | karl_w_w | he says a few more words though |
| 19:33.18 | Thunder_Child | Not when I fought him. |
| 19:41.48 | Simca | Vlad: they don't use Data\Cache\* but they still use Cache\* |
| 19:42.06 | VIad | hmm |
| 19:42.35 | nevcairiel | Data\Cache\ doesnt even get created anymore if you do a fresh install, if it exists its a remnant from before 6.0 |
| 19:43.47 | Simca | Data\Cache\ was because the previous virtual filesystem took so long to load new files into that they needed the data in a format they could read faster |
| 19:43.53 | Simca | it is obsolete with CASC |
| 19:43.57 | Simca | Cache\ |
| 19:44.05 | Simca | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:44.13 | Simca | very very different things |
| 19:46.32 | Simca | <p3lim> Semlar: in the data files, does it simply say what kind of disenchanting skill is required for each item? |
| 19:46.34 | Simca | <Semlar> it's possibly in the itemcache |
| 19:46.51 | Simca | it's actually just a set of rules to follow; it isn't done on a per item basis |
| 19:47.10 | Simca | ItemDisenchantLoot.dbc contains the latest set of those rules |
| 19:47.32 | p3lim | Simca: get me a way of extracting that and I'll give you a gold star |
| 19:47.51 | kd3 | http://www.townlong-yak.com/casc/ ? |
| 19:48.34 | Simca | p3lim: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jD-Gp5tZ7tQFsIl_edd8dOHsGjY3_6Mpj4_v6IJw41E/edit?usp=sharing |
| 19:49.17 | p3lim | Simca: <3 |
| 19:50.05 | Semlar | aren't these indexes referenced from the item cache? |
| 19:50.24 | Simca | no; i think it was done that way once upon a time |
| 19:50.49 | Semlar | it's purely based on the item level and quality or whatever now? |
| 19:50.50 | Simca | but it wouldn't work at all nowadays - bonusIDs alter itemlevel and item rarity, so the disenchanting system has to be fluid |
| 19:50.55 | Simca | yeah |
| 19:51.45 | p3lim | Semlar: https://github.com/p3lim-wow/LibProcessable/blob/master/LibProcessable.lua#L34-L126 |
| 19:51.54 | Semlar | i guess that's probably why draenor epics under 600 still disenchant into sha crystals |
| 19:52.10 | karl_w_w | <3 web stores that let you calculate shipping on the product page |
| 19:52.11 | p3lim | doubth that's why |
| 19:52.19 | Semlar | can't imagine they should |
| 19:52.45 | Semlar | an epic below 600 should DE into a temporal crystal fragment |
| 19:53.15 | Semlar | but it just goes from sha crystals below 600 to temporal crystals |
| 19:53.18 | p3lim | an epic above 582 should |
| 19:53.26 | p3lim | but it doesn't |
| 19:53.37 | Simca | yeah their range is 420-599 = sha crystal |
| 19:53.48 | Semlar | which is annoying |
| 19:54.01 | p3lim | procced treasures > sha crystals |
| 19:54.05 | Semlar | because really anything from draenor should DE into draenor enchanting stuff |
| 19:54.06 | p3lim | got like 10 of them while leveling |
| 19:54.36 | Simca | class column is '2' and '4', alternating |
| 19:54.52 | Simca | 2 is probably 'armor' and 4 is 'weapon' or vice versa |
| 19:55.07 | Simca | since armor and weapons have typically always had different products |
| 19:56.10 | Simca | also, you wouldn't even be able to disenchant those draenor epics with the enchanter's study, semlar |
| 19:56.22 | Simca | since they fall into the range with a enchanting skill requirement of 575 |
| 19:56.33 | Simca | only 600+ epics require an enchanting skill of 0 |
| 19:57.50 | Semlar | well i'm an enchanter so i didn't know this was about the study |
| 19:57.57 | Shirik | mikma: how do you find all of this? |
| 20:01.44 | mikma | shirik: simple, i youtube'd "epic music" and listened to them :) |
| 20:01.54 | mikma | shirik: also, are you familiar with this song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O6Q1OiF6LI |
| 20:02.01 | mikma | shirik: maybe the most epic song out there |
| 20:05.29 | Shirik | I greatly appreciate anyone that can make 7/8 time work |
| 20:05.32 | Shirik | that's awesome |
| 20:06.03 | Shirik | this makes only the second time I've ever seen it done right |
| 20:06.08 | Iriel | Thatâs the third time iâve come ocross two steps from hell this week |
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| 20:19.13 | znf | foxlit, could we get the sum of gold below the gold icon, too? :) |
| 20:19.21 | foxlit | no. |
| 20:19.36 | foxlit | because it's 37 gold 49 siler 95 copper. |
| 20:20.00 | Gnarfoz | the worst argument ever |
| 20:22.04 | Neffi | I love the internet |
| 20:22.21 | Neffi | I really do. Giving people the power to comment is excellent. Giving them to power to downvote was even better |
| 20:22.43 | Neffi | I just love when I get downvoted for saying the sun is a black body because "A black body? I'm not in the mood to Google right now. It's the brightest thing in our solar system." |
| 20:24.17 | Neffi | Whereas, get this, the assholes saying the sun could cast a shadow if a brighter light was next to it get upvoted |
| 20:24.30 | foxlit | basically, znf, it looked awkward when I tried. |
| 20:24.42 | znf | I see |
| 20:24.49 | znf | uhm, you get missions like that? |
| 20:24.55 | znf | mine are 50g, 250g etc |
| 20:25.12 | foxlit | Changing the icon based on the amount might work better, though. |
| 20:25.24 | foxlit | 37.50 is a real thing; 37.4995 is fictional. |
| 20:25.39 | Gnarfoz | why not just truncate, floor, round, whatever to full gold |
| 20:25.55 | Gnarfoz | that can't look more awkward than the 2000 xp text? |
| 20:26.36 | foxlit | it'd be wrong, though. |
| 20:27.12 | Gnarfoz | OH NOES I'm getting miniscule amounts more gold than listed here! sue foxlit! :D |
| 20:27.54 | foxlit | but that's the other part of it: ultimately, the amount doesn't matter. What you kind of are mildly interested in is if there's a mission that awards an unusually high amount, and not so much the amount itself. |
| 20:28.49 | Gnarfoz | easily recognized by seeing "35g" "250g" "75g"? |
| 20:29.20 | Gnarfoz | I guess you could tint the gold icon green/blue/epic? |
| 20:38.16 | mikma | shirik: also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMBH_OJMC7c this one has all the best of TSFH in one ;) |
| 20:38.55 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/fMV0qRX.png |
| 20:38.59 | znf | I think this was an overkill :D |
| 20:40.38 | Kesava | so both actionswap and action bar saver are dead and broken now |
| 20:40.46 | Kesava | hooow do i save my action bars |
| 20:41.12 | nevcairiel | action bars really havent changed much, are you sure they are broken |
| 20:41.29 | nevcairiel | hm maybe i fixed action bar saver locally when i needed it last |
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| 20:42.59 | Kesava | i haven't been able to use abs for a long time now, and as2 is throwing usage errors and making no changes to my bars |
| 20:43.08 | Kesava | despite picking up spells |
| 20:46.41 | plaw | nsfw http://i.imgur.com/p2xVtrS.png |
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| 20:47.17 | Jamash | What are abs and as2? |
| 20:47.59 | plaw | hmmm where's bluespacecow http://worldmapswithout.nz/ |
| 20:48.03 | Kesava | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/action-bar-saver and http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/actionswap2 |
| 20:49.12 | Jamash | I'm considering adding some action bar save and load functions to Learning Aid. I've already implemented CopyActionBar(n) and PasteActionBar(n). |
| 20:49.27 | Jamash | which I have successfully used to screw up my action bars good |
| 20:49.37 | Jamash | good thing Learning Aid makes fixing them so easy XD |
| 20:50.29 | Jamash | Kesava: What features, specifically, do you consider important in such an addon? |
| 20:52.03 | Kesava | just saving and loading action bars. i'm not interested in having like a "main bar" and a "shared bar" (though i do, but they also tend to have class spells so meh) or talents or anything |
| 20:52.11 | Kesava | just the very basic functionality of such a thing |
| 20:52.18 | Jamash | I mostly did it so I could do things like CopyActionBar("shadow"); PasteActionBar(1) |
| 20:52.50 | Jamash | it doesn't save anything to SavedVariables at the moment though. |
| 20:53.11 | Jamash | How do you use these addons at present? |
| 20:53.37 | Jamash | ie, saving and loading on one character, multiple characters, same character multiple specs, etc |
| 20:53.40 | karl_w_w | im consistently getting a level 90 mission for 30 garrison resources which requires the timer thing counter |
| 20:53.42 | karl_w_w | it's nice |
| 20:54.08 | Kesava | well once in a blue moon i will, say, switch specs from holy to disc. i like to save those buttons. so, just one character over different specs. |
| 20:54.42 | Jamash | ok, that wouldn't be that hard |
| 20:55.06 | Jamash | so just like /savebars holy then later /savebars disc /restorebars holy |
| 20:55.16 | Kesava | pretty much |
| 20:55.26 | Jamash | I could probably implement that today |
| 20:55.32 | Jamash | I did most of the heavy lifting already |
| 20:55.34 | znf | Simca, did that guy fix his addon? It's no longer freezing my game |
| 20:55.50 | Kesava | you should do that |
| 20:56.01 | Simca | not sure, znf |
| 20:56.36 | Jamash | On a different topic, is anyone else here having a problem where their tooltips for objects and characters in the world vanish, but tooltips for UI frames like unit frames and such are fine? |
| 20:56.45 | Kesava | yes |
| 20:57.17 | Jamash | I thought it was SUF because I turned it off and it seemed like it stopped, but then it happened without so I think it might be the base UI. |
| 20:57.51 | Jamash | PSA: If your world tooltips go away, mouse over a POI or arrow or w/e on the minimap and that makes it stop (for a while). |
| 20:58.09 | Jamash | got that in /1, turns out general chat is good for something after all |
| 20:59.18 | karl_w_w | http://stopmasturbationnow.org/ |
| 20:59.38 | Jamash | Is there an icon anywhere in the WoW UI I could stea^W borrow for "refresh window" in Learning Aid? |
| 21:00.17 | Jamash | some sort of circular arrow thingy |
| 21:00.42 | Kesava | uh yes |
| 21:01.44 | Kesava | there's the undo transmog thing. i think. and the button in the premade group finder |
| 21:01.50 | Jamash | thx |
| 21:02.14 | Jamash | Perfect. |
| 21:04.11 | karl_w_w | http://stopmasturbationnow.org/big-masturbation/masturbation-to-blame-for-new-endangered-species/ LOL |
| 21:06.02 | karl_w_w | filthy masturbator |
| 21:06.08 | karl_w_w | this site is satire right? |
| 21:06.14 | Kesava | yes |
| 21:07.32 | znf | well, how the hell do I make WoWI's Minion work with disembedded addons? |
| 21:10.05 | Simca | What are the "mapID" numbers used by the WoW API? |
| 21:10.13 | Torhal | znf: You don't. |
| 21:10.23 | znf | "great" |
| 21:10.45 | Simca | The dbcs use a completely different numbering system (i.e. draenor is 1116) |
| 21:10.48 | Alram | Simca, example? |
| 21:11.05 | kd3 | why do people keep thinking that noembed needs to be a thing any more? |
| 21:11.09 | Simca | i think the in-game functions are referring ot the zoneID |
| 21:11.31 | znf | kd3, too lazy to switch |
| 21:11.34 | Simca | or something. |
| 21:11.35 | Alram | is it worldmaparea |
| 21:11.42 | Simca | oh probably |
| 21:12.04 | znf | I'd like to be able to make the minion thingie just update addons that are not on curse :-/ |
| 21:12.07 | Alram | WorldMapArea.mapID |
| 21:12.12 | Simca | Alram: yes sir, tyvm |
| 21:12.50 | Torhal | kd3: In my case, it's a development thing. The Curse packager adds libs to my AddOns, so I don't have them in my working copy. |
| 21:12.59 | Alram | ok WorldMapArea.ID i think |
| 21:13.08 | Alram | MapID is actual map.dbc id |
| 21:13.33 | Simca | yeah, same, Torhal, for multiple addons i've worked on |
| 21:13.48 | Torhal | Sure, I can install them and set up .gitignore...but since I don't have to, fuck that! |
| 21:14.10 | Jamash | boy, ExtractInterfaceFiles art takes a while |
| 21:14.24 | kd3 | there's a hell of a lot of it |
| 21:14.35 | kd3 | and afaik the client still writes files byte by byte |
| 21:15.41 | Simca | there are like 27000 blps iirc |
| 21:16.07 | Jamash | ._. |
| 21:16.26 | znf | uhm |
| 21:16.38 | znf | it seems that MinionUI is detecting the wrong addons |
| 21:17.04 | znf | wow, this thing is bad |
| 21:17.06 | Gethe | the WorldMap folder is == the rest of the interface art in size |
| 21:18.38 | Jamash | here we go, Interface\\BUTTONS\\UI-RefreshButton.blp |
| 21:19.46 | Jamash | World of Warcraft\BlizzardInterfaceArt is 1.33 GB (1,430,532,398 bytes) and contains 35,129 Files, 625 Folders |
| 21:20.31 | Jamash | WorldMap is 536 MB (562,940,931 bytes) |
| 21:20.52 | Jamash | 11,597 Files, 470 Folders |
| 21:22.27 | Iriel | znf: Itâs possible that it âfoundâ the wrong wow install. |
| 21:22.36 | znf | Iriel, I only let it scan C: |
| 21:23.05 | Iriel | znf: if youâre finding itâs misbehaving, let dolby know (or post on its feedback forum) and theyâll open a ticket |
| 21:24.55 | Gnarfoz | mhhh, linkable Ashbringer (extra effects) and Frostmourne on my realm... does simply visting the LK enable that? |
| 21:25.26 | Gnarfoz | (like visiting Illidan used to make the twin blades linkable) |
| 21:27.53 | kd3 | afaik if an item's in the data you can link it these days |
| 21:28.17 | kd3 | the whole 'needing to see an item in-game before you can link it' thing ended in... cata? |
| 21:32.18 | Gnarfoz | I see |
| 21:32.37 | Jamash | I thought it had to have been seen by the realm server at least once since startup |
| 21:32.43 | Gnarfoz | I like gettin "you need to post the entire error" as the only reply to a ticket, when I've already included a full backtrace AND the taint.log >_> |
| 21:39.10 | nevcairiel | dont expect some random smoe to care about taint :p |
| 21:42.14 | Gnarfoz | it's probably not even taint >_> |
| 21:42.19 | Gnarfoz | it's the tradeskill thing |
| 21:43.25 | nevcairiel | who is the author of that anyway? |
| 21:44.49 | Gnarfoz | Sapu94 & others |
| 21:50.39 | Jamash | dealing with buttons and frames and layers and textures and stuff is my least favorite part of addon development |
| 21:53.40 | fewyn | man i have nothing but 8 to 10 hr missions right now... this is annoying |
| 21:55.22 | foxlit | Mildly frustrating: I want to display the experience gain of all followers returning from missions on one page. |
| 21:55.36 | foxlit | I don't think they fit :( |
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| 22:01.06 | Jamash | fewyn: epic mount stacks, so 2x epic mount = 1/4 time |
| 22:01.15 | Gnarfoz | ! |
| 22:01.25 | Gnarfoz | for that, you have to have followers that have it, though :p |
| 22:01.31 | Jamash | yeah, random is random |
| 22:01.46 | Gnarfoz | also, high stamina all "based on mission time" things are based on the unmodified time |
| 22:01.56 | Gnarfoz | err... yeah, you get what I mean |
| 22:02.11 | Jamash | I don't actually, but ok |
| 22:02.26 | Gnarfoz | s/high stamina// |
| 22:02.33 | Jamash | ah |
| 22:02.37 | Gnarfoz | and then: like the high stamina buff |
| 22:02.45 | Gnarfoz | (which increases success chance on missions >8h |
| 22:02.59 | Gnarfoz | actually >7h I think |
| 22:24.50 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/fi.jpg << maybe something like this |
| 22:45.22 | Kesava | foxlit: happy master plan update :D |
| 22:47.37 | Ivnedar | I'm looking forward to each update :D |
| 22:50.10 | Simca | foxlit: does your addon complete all missions in one go? |
| 22:50.23 | foxlit | soon. |
| 22:51.00 | Simca | i'm having issues with that - my code randomly stops sometimes after completing 2-3 missions |
| 22:51.12 | Simca | then i have to back out of the UI and open it again for it to finish |
| 22:51.28 | foxlit | too soon, executus. You're calling API functions too soon. |
| 22:51.40 | Simca | could be |
| 22:51.49 | Simca | i have it tied into clicking the view button now though |
| 22:51.52 | Simca | and it is still an issue |
| 22:52.12 | Simca | the 3rd or 4th request i send to the server just never gets a response |
| 22:54.45 | Simca | anyway, i documented a ton of the mission completion-related functions and events; feel free to use any of it or the code - http://www.curseforge.com/paste/11016/ |
| 22:56.03 | Ivnedar | are the mission operations throttled back to the server? |
| 22:56.39 | Simca | probably; i've seen the requests for mission completion fail |
| 22:56.51 | Simca | and the 2nd arg of those events seems to indicate failure on the serverside |
| 22:58.22 | Simca | oh god this follower rolled awesome: http://i.imgur.com/aJLkug5.png - extra training + scavenger makes him an excellent follower trainer/resource gatherer |
| 23:08.32 | Motig | I had that happen in my addon Simca, putting a small pause between adding followers to mission and starting it seems to have fixed it |
| 23:26.31 | Gnarfoz | Simca: I hate you for that follower |
| 23:43.05 | Stanzilla | I have no clue about all those followers you can get in the world |
| 23:43.18 | Stanzilla | but one of my guild mates already has 3 with ilvl 650 |
| 23:43.21 | Stanzilla | lucky sod |
| 23:43.38 | Gnarfoz | if I had pooled my upgrades better, I'd be in the same position |
| 23:44.20 | Ivnedar | using a bunch of +3/6 then getting a 615? |
| 23:44.50 | Gnarfoz | only did that once or twice, but I have 2 followers, one has 655 weapon, the other has 655 armor :D |
| 23:44.58 | Ivnedar | nice :D |
| 23:45.11 | Gnarfoz | but I have a 3-team of 630+ and a 3-team of 615+ (and some random other crap) |
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| 23:45.33 | Gnarfoz | also, the first one I really put upgrades into was green, kind of regretted that, now I have to boost her all the way to epic ^6 |
| 23:45.54 | Simca | it is likely most ideal to promote several teams of epic followers with a varied ability set to 615 |
| 23:46.03 | Simca | and then 630 later, and 645 even later |
| 23:46.11 | Ivnedar | rare -> epic is brutal, unless you get a bunch of 15k bonus xp missions |
| 23:46.20 | Simca | no point in unlocking the raid missions if you don't have enough abilities to counter them |
| 23:46.57 | Simca | then they're just taking up mission slots with missions you can't do |
| 23:47.09 | Gnarfoz | that's already the case anyway |
| 23:47.23 | Gnarfoz | I don't need 4 "rewards ilvl 615 item" missions of various lenghts and abilities |
| 23:47.42 | Simca | yeah those suck |
| 23:48.23 | Gnarfoz | and now that I need to go to sleep, my alts only have :30 and 1:00 missions :D |
| 23:48.33 | Gnarfoz | guess I'll have to remote into here tomorrow :p |
| 23:49.18 | Ivnedar | I assume Blizz would frown upon automating the mission ui completely and going afk for 8-10 hours |
| 23:49.42 | Gnarfoz | anything that keeps you in the game while not actually being there is straight up against the ToS :p |
| 23:50.09 | Stanzilla | I have way too many useless followers that dont have good counter ability |
| 23:50.13 | Stanzilla | never got a reroll item |
| 23:50.25 | Ivnedar | which garrison building can drop those? |
| 23:50.31 | Ivnedar | or is it random reward only? |
| 23:51.05 | xyphoid_ | i got one of those from a mission really early on |
| 23:51.58 | kd3 | the ring of trials mission offers one, I know |
