| 00:00.06 | jleclanche | cause windows is so stable |
| 00:00.20 | Shirik | false dichotomy |
| 00:00.34 | jleclanche | dumb interjection |
| 00:00.38 | Mr_Rabies | remember, this is freenode |
| 00:00.59 | Mr_Rabies | speaking ill against stallman is against the law |
| 00:01.21 | Shirik | I shall go to the FSF for penance |
| 00:20.46 | foxlit | http://www.curseforge.com/media/images/79/252/sorted-followers.jpg << whee, usability. |
| 00:21.35 | foxlit | though maybe I should've picked a mission where the relevant followers are not all level 100. |
| 00:23.21 | Gnarfoz | listen here you little... |
| 00:23.27 | Gnarfoz | that's way to subtle :p |
| 00:25.23 | foxlit | hmm? |
| 00:28.07 | Gnarfoz | as usual, you provided no context whatsoever, so I had to search Curse to find what that is from |
| 00:28.52 | Gnarfoz | didn't know that's part of a more elaborate addon, so I assumed it's just the single functionality (sorting based on counters) |
| 00:29.11 | Kesava | well now you're not providing context |
| 00:29.38 | Gnarfoz | unless you missed foxlit's link... :D |
| 00:29.41 | Gnarfoz | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/master-plan |
| 00:29.45 | Gnarfoz | there you go ;) |
| 00:30.30 | Kesava | well it looked good so yes, ty |
| 00:30.41 | Kesava | yay foxlit. |
| 00:30.45 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 00:30.59 | Gnarfoz | give it a few days, he'll probably have it automated :p |
| 00:31.19 | Gnarfoz | I'll have to give that a whirl, but so far I'm liking CompactMissions, which is a total replacement (although it's not quite functionally complete, yet) |
| 00:34.03 | foxlit | I think the goal is to make it non-irritating without removing the aesthetics. |
| 00:36.10 | Gnarfoz | I figured; I'm not fond of Blizzard's aesthetics, I hate the wasted space =( |
| 00:37.41 | foxlit | it's essentially a modal dialog; it's allowed to throw pictures at you :) |
| 00:39.17 | foxlit | though I suppose a lot depends on your screen resolution/ ui scale |
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| 00:41.14 | Torhal | 2x MasterPlan\GarrisonMissions.lua:3: attempt to index field 'Garrison' (a nil value) |
| 00:41.14 | Torhal | MasterPlan\GarrisonMissions.lua:3: in main chunk |
| 00:41.17 | Torhal | >.> |
| 00:41.18 | Torhal | <.< |
| 00:41.35 | Torhal | If you added a file, that's my fault. |
| 00:41.44 | Torhal | reloaded - didn't restart. |
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| 00:42.04 | xqo | hey do you guys know any addons that make cooldown-bars? |
| 00:42.17 | Torhal | SexyCooldown, CoolLine... |
| 00:42.28 | foxlit | hm, I've been meaning to warn about that in changelog |
| 00:42.35 | xqo | i thank you |
| 00:42.48 | Semlar | sexytorhal, cooltorhal |
| 00:42.58 | Torhal | o.O |
| 00:43.50 | Semlar | our fury warrior couldn't roll on a strength dps trinket earlier, but don't worry our warlock could |
| 00:45.27 | Alram | all is well in the world |
| 00:45.45 | Gnarfoz | your run of the mill mis-flagged item |
| 00:45.50 | Semlar | it was disenchanted ^_^ |
| 00:46.01 | Gnarfoz | could have just given it to him |
| 00:46.11 | Semlar | we could have, if we hadn't rolled disenchant |
| 00:46.17 | Torhal | Clearly, Semlar is in a guild of pricks. |
| 00:46.19 | Gnarfoz | you said the warlock could roll on it |
| 00:46.23 | Gnarfoz | I assume you meant "need" |
| 00:46.24 | Semlar | he could have |
| 00:46.34 | Semlar | had he known the warrior couldn't roll on it |
| 00:46.53 | Semlar | but you can't unroll your roll |
| 00:47.11 | Semlar | and couldn't trade it to him since it was DE'd |
| 00:47.29 | Semlar | this is a great system that they replaced personal loot with |
| 00:47.32 | xqo | you have a fury warrior??? |
| 00:47.47 | xqo | isnt gladiator hella op right now so all the warriors play it? |
| 00:47.58 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: uh... personal loot is already back |
| 00:48.09 | Gnarfoz | as default, that is |
| 00:48.10 | Semlar | it wasn't back 2 hours ago |
| 00:48.28 | Gnarfoz | sure was, maybe your realm was last to get it or something |
| 00:48.33 | Semlar | no it fucking wasn't |
| 00:48.46 | Gnarfoz | I can link the blue post to you, if you like |
| 00:48.52 | Semlar | the default loot system all day has been need before greed |
| 00:49.01 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: hemad |
| 00:49.02 | Semlar | in randoms |
| 00:49.08 | Semlar | and you can't change the loot method |
| 00:49.11 | Torhal | I think EU got it before US. |
| 00:49.21 | kd3 | it should be live for all random dungeons formed now |
| 00:50.12 | Semlar | i've been doing heroics up until 2 hours ago so regardless of what the blue post says, it wasn't implemented until very recently |
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| 00:51.22 | Semlar | it surely isn't realm based either, since they're cross-realm groups |
| 00:53.01 | Gnarfoz | yawn https://twitter.com/CM_Lore/status/535931613163450368 |
| 00:53.09 | Gnarfoz | I guess you got the last dungeons to have it |
| 00:53.42 | Gnarfoz | also https://twitter.com/Rygarius/status/535936510894563328 xD |
| 00:53.54 | Gnarfoz | I can link that one in trade chat over and over |
| 00:59.05 | Semlar | granted with personal loot he probably wouldn't have even seen the item drop |
| 01:06.04 | Kesava | (foxlit: your "active missions" tab doesn't say how many active missions there are) |
| 01:07.13 | foxlit | Kesava: should it? |
| 01:07.19 | Kesava | well the default one does |
| 01:07.20 | Kesava | so yes |
| 01:08.11 | Kesava | default tabs are "Available - 8 In Progress - 6" |
| 01:08.28 | Kesava | And I keep trying to glance at that number but it's missing. |
| 01:09.06 | foxlit | Might make more sense for available missions |
| 01:10.44 | foxlit | (to me, the available number makes sense as a "hey, did I get anything new?" check, but there seems to be no practical difference between 1 and 10 on the in-progress one.) |
| 01:16.09 | foxlit | Kesava: in any case, ticket it and I'll fix it the next time around :) |
| 01:16.29 | Kesava | well in MY eyes you've done a bunch of good stuff and then rather uncessarily removed some information from the tabs |
| 01:16.49 | Kesava | but yes |
| 01:18.17 | Kesava | also i now know that i have way too many followers with the mortal strike counter |
| 01:18.37 | Kesava | 7 or something. |
| 01:18.40 | foxlit | trade you some for wild aggression? |
| 01:18.56 | Kesava | sure |
| 01:18.59 | Kesava | they should make that |
| 01:19.16 | foxlit | "Are you sure you want to crate this follower?" |
| 01:19.33 | Kesava | it'll cost 250g to open |
| 01:22.53 | Kesava | there you go I ticketed it. I also entirely removed the default ticket boilerplate. |
| 01:22.55 | Kesava | I hope that's ok. |
| 01:24.20 | foxlit | That's entirely fine. |
| 01:24.28 | Primer | So the new flask thing: http://www.wowhead.com/item=118922#comments Is there no way to get it other than having a fucking Inn and getting the quest that way? |
| 01:24.38 | Trela | I have tons of missions requiring the swift completion buff some even requiring multiples of it. I have one low level follower that can not do them. u_u; |
| 01:28.54 | Kesava | (by the way foxlit i recognise it's just 0.2 and you may not have purposefuly removed that information) |
| 01:29.16 | Kesava | i feel bad for that now. |
| 01:31.42 | Kesava | oh and the tooltip for missions seems to be telling me I can counter something with an inactive follower (and working ones too but I can understand that) |
| 01:31.43 | Kesava | that is all |
| 01:33.26 | Kesava | i should really start using tickets. rather than trying to remember/comment everything. |
| 01:34.56 | Kesava | this is why i never get things done. |
| 01:45.51 | Kesava | .. can you not submit tickets to your own project on curseforge? |
| 01:51.50 | Kesava | i'm probably just missing something |
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| 02:26.04 | Primer | bah, there's no way to use this conq I've accumulated since the release. There's no way to trade it for anything |
| 02:28.33 | znf | ~framexml |
| 02:28.33 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml. ExportInterfaceFiles code in the console |
| 02:29.41 | znf | I need to make some addon to make it easier to work with the mission list |
| 02:32.30 | znf | Gruuk has moved to a new location where they can be seen by both Horde and Alliance players. |
| 02:32.32 | znf | Hooraaaaaaaay |
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| 02:45.25 | Neffi | d'aww http://i.imgur.com/h4yWgJ1.gif |
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| 02:48.29 | znf | foxlit, Y U CURSEFORGE? >_< |
| 02:49.09 | znf | foxlit, also, taking sugestions for MasterPlan? |
| 02:49.35 | foxlit | znf: sure |
| 02:50.14 | znf | good, will annoy the hell out of you |
| 02:50.57 | Kesava | two can play at that game |
| 02:51.55 | znf | good thing Torhal pointed me to it, I was looking in the API to do the same thing :D |
| 02:52.21 | Torhal | Suuuuure. Put the focus on me right before you unleash. |
| 02:53.29 | foxlit | npnp, it's what comment sections and tickets are there for. |
| 02:53.46 | znf | Torhal, yes! |
| 02:53.52 | Torhal | :/ |
| 02:53.57 | znf | also, does anyone have any idea how to fix tiptac's tooltip breaking in the garrison UI? |
| 02:54.00 | znf | it pisses me off badly |
| 02:54.32 | Torhal | o.O |
| 02:54.38 | Torhal | Breaking it how? |
| 02:54.39 | nebula169 | i have no problems |
| 02:54.50 | Trela | Mine is fine. |
| 02:54.53 | Torhal | I'm using TipTac without issue. |
| 02:56.43 | znf | https://gfycat.com/SpeedyDizzyAmericanwarmblood |
| 02:57.30 | Torhal | You have weird skinning AddOns. |
| 02:57.53 | znf | that doesn't interact with the tooltip :-/ |
| 02:57.57 | znf | and I only do texture replacement |
| 02:58.23 | Neffi | znf: that url |
| 02:58.32 | znf | that's gfycat for you |
| 02:59.01 | Shirik | and today I got to experience my first pipe burst! |
| 02:59.02 | Shirik | yay! |
| 02:59.06 | znf | if I disable TipTac, everything works |
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| 03:00.21 | Neffi | Shirik: you're way too excited |
| 03:00.38 | znf | foxlit, ...where did you hide my mission count? |
| 03:03.25 | kd3 | oh man, fire really is doing poorly. exact same gear, a few kdps more as frost |
| 03:04.55 | znf | frost mages seem awesome to me |
| 03:12.22 | kd3 | heheh. wow. that didn't take long at all. "In a departure from the original Molten Core, reduced the aggro radius for most non-boss creatures from their original aggro radius from back in the day." |
| 03:12.57 | znf | it was a nightmare last night :D |
| 03:13.00 | Arrowmaster | lame |
| 03:13.01 | znf | everyone was body-pulling |
| 03:13.09 | znf | 0 raid awareness |
| 03:13.10 | Arrowmaster | thats half the fun of mc |
| 03:13.12 | znf | old raids were horrible :P |
| 03:13.35 | Arrowmaster | old raids we killed every single trash pack for good reason |
| 03:13.52 | Ivnedar | Shame they removed the attunement requirement :D |
| 03:14.08 | fewyn | whats a skipping trash |
| 03:14.21 | Arrowmaster | did they remove the aqual quentesinses |
| 03:14.32 | kd3 | that got removed years ago... 3.2? |
| 03:15.12 | Ivnedar | 2009 by the looks of it |
| 03:15.21 | Ivnedar | that's when it got turned into a feat anyway |
| 03:17.55 | Arrowmaster | mc was never a real attunement though, just a shortcut |
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| 03:18.56 | Ivnedar | yeah |
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| 03:32.34 | Kesava | Xuerian: bearing in mind i'm working on a complete rewrite (please don't judge my terrible old code) |
| 03:33.47 | Trela | judges intently. |
| 03:33.49 | Kesava | Xuerian: but feel free to send me diffs? I'm not sure how else to do it really. I only have this version up on curseforge. |
| 03:33.58 | Xuerian | Kesava: So long as you're planning on stuff like relevance highlighting/fading I won't have a lot to add. My tweaked version of nPrimeNameplates in Wildstar really spoiled me |
| 03:34.13 | Torhal | goads Trela on with cries of "Re-fact-tor! Re-fac-tor!" |
| 03:34.19 | Xuerian | Kesava: You can push to multiple git repos, and I can fork and submit pull requests on github |
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| 03:36.40 | Kesava | Suure, I'll try to get it on my github tomorrow |
| 03:36.54 | Xuerian | No rush though, especially if you're doing a entire rewrite |
| 03:37.19 | Neffi | refactors Torhal's genetic information |
| 03:37.25 | Kesava | Well i'm not particularly -active- on the rewrite. I'd like to see what you have anyway. |
| 03:37.41 | Kesava | have/do |
| 03:37.43 | Torhal | simplifies Neffi's existence down to three lines of bytecode. |
| 03:37.57 | Neffi | that must be one hell of an interpreter |
| 03:38.10 | Torhal | I just discarded anything I deemed irrelevant. |
| 03:38.16 | Torhal | Shit like breathing, for example. |
| 03:38.19 | Neffi | :( |
| 03:38.34 | Torhal | No worries! We'll get you a respirator. |
| 03:39.09 | Neffi | better hurry <_< |
| 03:39.30 | Torhal | It's in Semlar's car. |
| 03:40.01 | Neffi | oh god, I'm doomed |
| 03:40.05 | Torhal | :/ |
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| 03:46.35 | kd3 | woot, got firelands rag's mount |
| 03:48.05 | Ressy | grats |
| 03:48.16 | kd3 | now do I dare run MC LFR? |
| 03:51.42 | Simca | kd3: pureblood fire hawk? |
| 03:51.55 | kd3 | smoldering egg of millagazor |
| 03:52.20 | Simca | yeah |
| 03:52.33 | Simca | best mount in the game imo |
| 03:52.48 | Simca | it's like a cooler al'ar |
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| 04:20.33 | Leosky_ | how can i get blizz addon now ? i mean, i have added the "-console " in the launcher, but i cant find the console key :x |
| 04:25.54 | Iriel | The key should be tilde |
| 04:25.59 | kd3 | it's generally the ` key (the one above your tab button) |
| 04:26.10 | Iriel | Yeah, tilde without the shift |
| 04:26.35 | Leosky_ | hum, it just close the game when i hit this touch on the login screen :( |
| 04:26.50 | kd3 | not the escape key |
| 04:26.56 | Leosky_ | haha |
| 04:27.01 | Leosky_ | not that dumb |
| 04:27.18 | kd3 | http://www.wpclipart.com/computer/hardware/keyboard/keyboard_black.png |
| 04:27.23 | kd3 | the key above tab and to the left of 1 |
| 04:27.46 | Leosky_ | i have a azerty layout, i switch to us |
| 04:28.00 | kd3 | no matter the layout, that key should pull down the console |
| 04:28.13 | Leosky_ | yes thats what i though |
| 04:32.29 | znf | Did anyone have any success with the herb garden planting what you want? |
| 04:32.43 | znf | Even though I tell it to plant something specific, it's always random |
| 04:32.53 | Leosky_ | yep |
| 04:32.57 | Leosky_ | worked :x |
| 04:35.59 | znf | foxlit, any chance we can have the icons placed on the mission list instead of the tooltip? |
| 04:36.23 | Simca | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/garrison-mission-manager lol just tried this, a bruteforce-based optimal mission setup |
| 04:36.35 | Simca | takes 5 seconds to generate for one 3 follower mission |
| 04:36.51 | Simca | (during which the game is frozen ofc, he's not using coroutines) |
| 04:37.23 | Simca | assuming his implementation isn't godawful, that answers the question of using the blizzard API for it - that is way, way too slow |
| 04:37.38 | kd3 | that's a big assumption |
| 04:37.51 | Simca | lol maybe so |
| 04:38.58 | znf | Simca, going to guess that doesn't do it for all missions? |
| 04:39.04 | Simca | no |
| 04:39.15 | Simca | just the one, and like i mentioned, it is slow. |
| 04:39.18 | znf | like - being able to assign idle followers in a way that you can get best % on most missions |
| 04:39.53 | Simca | if you were willing to wait an hour, you could probably add a loop around his code and make it work for all missions |
| 04:40.06 | Simca | (an hour is probably a slight exaggeration depending on available missions/followers) |
| 04:40.24 | Leosky_ | ok. it was a keyboard layout issue |
| 04:40.45 | znf | going to try that, Simca |
| 04:40.46 | znf | ^^ |
| 04:40.49 | znf | the addon, I mean |
| 04:41.24 | Simca | i just need to figure out one more formula to be able to make one without the blizzard api, but i can't get it to work |
| 04:41.51 | Simca | going to try putting the data in question up on a google doc and making forum posts to see if other people can see the pattern i'm missing |
| 04:42.14 | znf | Simca, doesn't take that much for me |
| 04:42.17 | znf | like ~1 second freezing |
| 04:42.42 | Simca | how many followers did you have available? |
| 04:42.52 | znf | hmmm |
| 04:42.54 | znf | just 6 now :P |
| 04:43.03 | Simca | ah, i had 20 |
| 04:43.58 | znf | now I'm gonna go get pissed off in Nagrand |
| 04:44.33 | znf | !@#!@# treasures |
| 04:44.50 | kd3 | I hit 200 yesterday and nigh-instantly stopped caring |
| 04:45.03 | znf | I want the resources from it |
| 05:00.02 | fewyn | rip in peace enchanter's study now that i'm level 100 i don't need to disenchant questing stuff anymore and i need my second prof building back |
| 05:01.18 | Iriel | Sadly that IS my second prof building |
| 05:01.56 | Constie | I think tomorrow I'll have enough gearspring parts for my engineering goggles. I'm going to look so cool. |
| 05:02.26 | kd3 | wtb more greens to disenchant |
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| 05:10.00 | fewyn | work order deliveries stack right? i don't have to pick them up every 4hrs? |
| 05:10.53 | Constie | Right. |
| 05:10.59 | fewyn | ok good |
| 05:11.19 | fewyn | means i can run them on my profession alts and not have to constantly check |
| 05:11.57 | kd3 | 14 work orders = 2-1/3 days of work |
| 05:12.24 | fewyn | yep which is why i wanted to know |
| 05:14.24 | Semlar | i've heard the higher the level of follower you assign to a building, the greater potential yield from the work orders |
| 05:14.39 | kd3 | 90 follower = 50% chance of bonus. 100 follower = 100% chance |
| 05:14.47 | Leosky_ | ho :x |
| 05:14.50 | Semlar | so it's a flat value? |
| 05:14.51 | Leosky_ | and i lvl ? :x |
| 05:15.01 | Semlar | or does it go from 50 to 100% |
| 05:15.17 | kd3 | afaik it's proportional per level |
| 05:15.23 | kd3 | ilvl doesn't matter for work orders |
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| 05:16.51 | fewyn | man the barracks costs a lot to upgrade |
| 05:16.54 | Semlar | both of the followers i had assigned to my profession buildings have abilities that none of my other followers have :| |
| 05:16.56 | fewyn | i want that extra 5 followers |
| 05:17.12 | kd3 | my followers are only working when I'm collecting orders. otherwise they're gaining levels |
| 05:17.36 | Semlar | they cut an hour off the work order time though |
| 05:22.06 | fewyn | oh hey someone did create an addon to max success on missions http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/garrison-mission-manager/ |
| 05:22.36 | kd3 | that one's using the brute-force approach |
| 05:30.06 | fewyn | whatever works? |
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| 05:34.11 | ccox | <Molten Corgi> GROAN. |
| 05:56.48 | tz | wish it used a coroutine for calc :s |
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| 06:16.33 | Simca | wow, after all that thinking |
| 06:16.39 | Simca | the formula was so simple it hurts me |
| 06:17.17 | Ivnedar | ooh, good, what was it? |
| 06:17.37 | Simca | value of a countered mechanic = (3 * (1 - Base Chance)) / (Number of Follower Slots + (3 * Number of Mechanics)) |
| 06:18.07 | Simca | it was simple weighting like i guessed, just took forever to realize the weights |
| 06:18.36 | Ivnedar | nice work! |
| 06:19.10 | Simca | value of a trait is 1/3 of value of a countered mechanic, and the value of a follower without any traits or countered mechanics is the same as the value of a trait |
| 06:22.13 | Simca | good news is that it being very simple means that it should be relatively fast |
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| 07:39.36 | Gethe | Semlar: with foglight, the top right area of Spires is distorted. |
| 07:39.57 | Semlar | it is? |
| 07:40.05 | Gethe | in hybrid mode |
| 07:40.24 | Semlar | do you have a picture? |
| 07:41.28 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:42.16 | Semlar | this is what it looks like for me |
| 07:43.01 | Gethe | http://imgur.com/j7Zp2bB |
| 07:43.29 | Semlar | hm |
| 07:44.09 | Semlar | the width must be wrong |
| 07:44.54 | Semlar | which is odd |
| 07:45.03 | Semlar | considering how this is generated |
| 07:45.08 | karl_w_w | Semlar, some traits are worth more than others |
| 07:45.37 | karl_w_w | like the racial preferences are worth more than the longer/shorter than 7 hours ones |
| 07:45.52 | Semlar | i'm not simca! |
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| 07:46.16 | karl_w_w | woops |
| 07:46.23 | karl_w_w | ^ Simca |
| 07:46.51 | Simca | karl_w_w: fun |
| 07:49.37 | karl_w_w | unrelated: the scenery objects in front of my level 2 barracks appear and disappear depending on which way I point the camera |
| 07:49.56 | tz | I get that in my herb garden |
| 07:49.57 | Simca | my flame crown appears and disappears depending on which way i point the camera |
| 07:50.29 | Simca | karl_w_w: racial preferences are worth 1.5x normal traits, apparently |
| 07:50.58 | Simca | also, i guess i should deactivate my ogres, pleasure bot, humans, draenei, etc |
| 07:51.03 | Simca | and just use horde race followers |
| 07:51.06 | Simca | for maximum benefit |
| 07:51.20 | karl_w_w | you must have a lot more followers than me :P |
| 07:51.23 | Simca | there is no 'i love humans' trait for horde, yet I have 2 human followers |
| 07:51.40 | Simca | (Croman and Leeroy) |
| 07:51.55 | bluspacecow | mac curse client availiable yet ? |
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| 08:11.07 | Simca | jesus, crate of salvage can contain so many different potential items it is crazy |
| 08:11.09 | Simca | http://www.wowdb.com/items/114119-crate-of-salvage |
| 08:14.42 | nevcairiel | essentially, it has the world drop chance of every level range |
| 08:16.33 | Simca | yeah looks like it |
| 08:16.41 | Simca | i wonder if it can drop recipes |
| 08:18.48 | Arrowmaster | huh thats strange, looking at my spam boxes and notice one account is getting spam mail in korean and the other is getting it in chinese |
| 08:19.08 | nevcairiel | lucky you, all i get is russian |
| 08:20.02 | Arrowmaster | i get maybe one message every 6 months that makes it past gmails spam filter |
| 08:20.23 | Arrowmaster | so i rarely notice |
| 08:24.44 | nevcairiel | i peek in my spam folder occasionally |
| 08:27.06 | karl_w_w | how in the fuck are you meant to do bonemaw as melee? |
| 08:27.14 | karl_w_w | he inhales without warning |
| 08:27.40 | nevcairiel | there is a warning |
| 08:27.53 | nevcairiel | our melees at least manage |
| 08:31.43 | karl_w_w | hmm i didnt see a warning |
| 08:38.14 | Semlar | yeah there's a huge warning |
| 08:38.34 | Semlar | it goes in the chat and on the screen |
| 08:39.05 | karl_w_w | you mean when it says he starts inhaling? |
| 08:39.54 | karl_w_w | [16:27:08] Bonemaw begins to [Inhale] his enemies! |
| 08:40.07 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/11PDA7I.jpg |
| 08:40.29 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 08:40.30 | nevcairiel | yeah should still manage to get away until the intensifies messages comes up |
| 08:40.36 | karl_w_w | thats not a warning that's an announcement :P |
| 08:40.46 | Semlar | it pops up in the middle of your screen |
| 08:40.56 | karl_w_w | i started running as soon as that came up and he got me |
| 08:41.02 | nevcairiel | stand max melee distance and react instantly, you can get away |
| 08:41.08 | karl_w_w | and that was with ghost wolf |
| 08:41.09 | Semlar | he has a big hitbox as i understand it |
| 08:41.20 | Semlar | and when he starts it's hardly any suction |
| 08:41.43 | Semlar | of course as a hunter i just laugh at his attempts |
| 08:50.13 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 08:50.20 | bluspacecow | im thinking of a word |
| 08:50.24 | Semlar | moo |
| 08:50.30 | bluspacecow | no no |
| 08:50.43 | bluspacecow | it means overly unfairly weighted at one end. liked loaded dice |
| 08:51.00 | Semlar | rigged |
| 08:51.07 | bluspacecow | thats it |
| 08:52.01 | Semlar | or maybe fixed |
| 08:53.35 | Semlar | what exactly does the level 3 goblin workshop let you do |
| 08:53.48 | Semlar | it says it allows the creation of a siege vehicle once per day |
| 08:55.50 | karl_w_w | http://www.wowhead.com/item=114429 fantastic trinket DansGame |
| 08:56.20 | nevcairiel | i got that as well the other day |
| 08:56.44 | VIad | any new addons to make the follower missions life better? :3 |
| 08:59.16 | Xuerian | VIad: http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/master-plan |
| 08:59.28 | VIad | :D |
| 08:59.39 | VIad | nice work Xuerian |
| 08:59.46 | Xuerian | not mine o_O |
| 09:03.07 | karl_w_w | don't be so hard on yourself, nice work Xuerian! |
| 09:03.49 | Xuerian | He made this...? ... I made this. |
| 09:06.14 | Xuerian | I think znf is working on some additions to sb's broker addon and simca is working on a better mission coach. |
| 09:06.33 | znf | Xuerian, nope, foxlit already did it ^ |
| 09:06.50 | Xuerian | Ah |
| 09:06.53 | znf | I wanted to do pretty much the same :P |
| 09:07.01 | znf | but if foxlit did it... no point |
| 09:07.10 | Xuerian | It'd still be cool to see them on the mission rows instead of having to mouseover them |
| 09:07.21 | znf | true, but foxlit said he's accepting sugestions :) |
| 09:08.16 | karl_w_w | black friday advertising has started |
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| 09:31.25 | mikma | torhal: do you have any ideas why Archy tells me that 3 digsites are in Shadowmoon Valley eventho they are in Spire or Arak |
| 09:31.48 | VIad | regarding followers |
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| 09:32.01 | VIad | would be nice with an addon to help figure out what traits and abilities you got and lack |
| 09:32.05 | VIad | to try get a balanced setup :p |
| 09:32.13 | VIad | i.e. who to reroll, who to get, and such |
| 09:32.24 | VIad | in addition to having some UI improvements regarding who to send where ofc |
| 09:35.26 | VIad | thumbs up foxcl |
| 09:35.30 | VIad | foxlit |
| 09:35.47 | VIad | karl_w_w: why is it called "black friday"? |
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| 09:59.08 | karl_w_w | marking timber for logging doesn't force you to dismount but it does put you out of ghost wolf form |
| 09:59.13 | karl_w_w | which I think makes it unique |
| 10:04.57 | Simca | mikma: known issue; archy doesn't understand zone locations very well |
| 10:08.11 | karl_w_w | i wonder why treasure locations don't show on the minimap in some zones |
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| 10:44.58 | Sintacks | iam typing on a keyboard that has no keeys..... |
| 10:45.12 | Sintacks | it's really kind of compliated |
| 10:46.15 | Xuerian | Arrowmaster: http://animatorexpo.com/mememe/ |
| 10:46.24 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/lAlNMJo.png |
| 10:46.55 | Arrowmaster | Xuerian: i cant read it |
| 10:47.26 | Xuerian | Arrowmaster: I just seem to recall you were the last one to link an off the wall wtf video, I thought I'd return the favor. Sorry if that wasn't you >.> |
| 10:47.40 | Arrowmaster | oh that one |
| 10:47.57 | Arrowmaster | yeah i linked it in here then the next day it was making its way around reddit and facebook |
| 10:48.34 | Arrowmaster | didnt realize there was a video on the page you linked, let me enable javascript and look again |
| 10:49.07 | Xuerian | There's an EN switch at the top too |
| 10:49.25 | Xuerian | Not that it helps anything |
| 10:50.31 | Arrowmaster | cant seem to get it to play |
| 10:56.43 | Xuerian | Weird o_O |
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| 11:15.41 | squeakytoy | Hey all. I have probably an easy question. I have a frame, with a color-texture. But at "onload" i want to change the color, but it doesn't work. Cant you do that with a color-texture? http://pastebin.com/MGhc4fvs |
| 11:16.28 | mikma | squeakytoy: might we convert you to write this addon in pure lua instead of xml? |
| 11:16.56 | squeakytoy | sure, if thats better :-) |
| 11:17.14 | squeakytoy | basically, i just want a box on the screen that i can change the color of |
| 11:17.37 | mikma | when do you want the color to be changed? |
| 11:17.46 | squeakytoy | logic in update |
| 11:18.31 | mikma | so basicly, a 100x100 box on screen that can be colored? |
| 11:18.41 | squeakytoy | but changing the color upon load is good first step |
| 11:18.47 | squeakytoy | yea |
| 11:19.02 | squeakytoy | mikma, you writing this by hand, or using, something like wow studio? |
| 11:19.03 | mikma | and load as in when the addon is loaded or when the player is entering the world? |
| 11:19.20 | squeakytoy | addon is loaded |
| 11:19.36 | mikma | squeakytoy: by hand, i usually use wowlua http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7366-WowLua.html to drycode it in game before i transfer it into addon files |
| 11:21.04 | squeakytoy | i will install that now |
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| 11:23.02 | mikma | squeakytoy: basicly, we have this code that provides the 100x100 box: http://hastebin.com/cinayehani.sm |
| 11:23.26 | mikma | it's 50% transparent black box in middle of screen now |
| 11:23.35 | squeakytoy | how do i boostrap that code? in any .lua file, that is refered in my .toc file? |
| 11:25.07 | mikma | squeakytoy: http://mikma.reaktio.net/wow/addons/box/ like that |
| 11:25.16 | squeakytoy | cool, i will try and put onload and update into that now |
| 11:25.31 | squeakytoy | mikma, yea, thats what i thought, thanks |
| 11:25.56 | mikma | actually that kinda harder with lua |
| 11:26.08 | mikma | also you don't need "onload" because this happens when you load the addon anyway |
| 11:26.46 | mikma | onupdate is not a fun thing to do. what do you wish to do with the "onupdate", what's causing the box to do what? |
| 11:27.29 | squeakytoy | change the color of box depending on framerate |
| 11:28.09 | mikma | huh |
| 11:28.24 | squeakytoy | yupp |
| 11:28.35 | mikma | so you want a discobox on screen? |
| 11:28.42 | squeakytoy | yupp |
| 11:28.47 | squeakytoy | like its 1999 |
| 11:28.52 | mikma | okidoki then |
| 11:29.26 | squeakytoy | programmatic addon coding is much more straight-forward |
| 11:31.47 | mikma | http://mikma.reaktio.net/wow/addons/box/box.lua |
| 11:31.54 | mikma | there you go, enjoy your epilepsy :D |
| 11:32.28 | mikma | ouch, that's horrible |
| 11:33.22 | squeakytoy | i could tell you what exactly i cam planing to do, but its probably against channel tos |
| 11:33.34 | mikma | yeah, better stop now then |
| 11:33.51 | mikma | the channel tos is anyways pretty much "don't be a dick." |
| 11:34.10 | squeakytoy | well, its certainly against the wow tos |
| 11:34.32 | mikma | but if you wanna kill your friends and or enemies, it's your decision to do so |
| 11:34.59 | squeakytoy | kill your friends or enemies? |
| 11:35.08 | mikma | with epilepsy seizures |
| 11:35.12 | squeakytoy | ah, no |
| 11:35.32 | squeakytoy | i need a way to transfer data out from wow |
| 11:36.53 | mikma | .toc -> ## SavedVariables: lolDB .lua -> mydata = lolDB /reload -> done |
| 11:37.48 | squeakytoy | in real time |
| 11:38.40 | mikma | not a way. also against .toc |
| 11:38.44 | mikma | eh |
| 11:38.46 | mikma | sorry, tos |
| 11:39.28 | squeakytoy | i dont agree with statement 1, but with your second statement |
| 11:40.24 | mikma | well there ain't no way of extracting info out of wow in real time. if there is, it's not allowed by blizzard |
| 11:41.36 | squeakytoy | nods |
| 11:42.55 | mikma | usually people getting data out of wow in realtime are botters |
| 11:43.11 | squeakytoy | maybe some people just want to create a real time logger |
| 11:43.50 | mikma | well, no. because that can be achieved with SavedVariables |
| 11:43.56 | squeakytoy | hypertheoretical, publishing the guild chat on a website in real time |
| 11:44.16 | karl_w_w | so it changes colour every new frame, and the colour depends on the frame rate |
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| 11:47.21 | Simca | anyone have a quest that rewards you multiple of an item by chance? |
| 11:47.50 | Simca | I need to know what the line in chat says, should be something like: "Received item: [Stuff] x 4." |
| 11:48.25 | mikma | simca: Jug of Ironwine :P a lootable treasure item |
| 11:48.56 | Simca | or... it's in globalstrings |
| 11:48.58 | Simca | ERR_QUEST_REWARD_ITEM_MULT_IS = "Received %d of item: %s."; |
| 11:48.58 | Simca | ERR_QUEST_REWARD_ITEM_S = "Received item: %s."; |
| 11:49.12 | Simca | it's under "ERR_" instead of "LOOT_" like the other ones |
| 11:49.17 | Simca | it's not an error message... |
| 12:01.25 | VIad | GetItemCount should have some way to count void too |
| 12:05.12 | karl_w_w | wow, the alliance flight path from garrison to pinchwhistle is action-packed |
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| 12:36.29 | karl_w_w | hot tips: if you don't have level 3 barracks yet, prioritise the missions with a spyglass next to them |
| 12:42.11 | squeakytoy | hah, this is a bit odd. wow can't give me the í in this script: print( string.sub("drízy", 3,1) ); |
| 12:42.41 | squeakytoy | hm |
| 12:43.01 | squeakytoy | actually, looks like lua cant |
| 12:43.46 | squeakytoy | face palms |
| 12:44.00 | Simca | karl_w_w: equally hot tip: if you have another 90, do tanaan and the first quests until you get a follower and build your barracks. the mission "Night Watch" will be available every 30 minutes as long as your followers are low level like that |
| 12:44.12 | Simca | and you can get 10-20 free patrol mission completions |
| 12:48.02 | karl_w_w | sounds too much like hard work Simca :P |
| 12:49.18 | squeakytoy | isn't this weird guys, that wow fails at print( string.sub("ízy", 1,1) );? |
| 12:49.50 | Cairenn | Okay, from watching these videos, I have determined a few things: (a) lane markings, traffic lights, and road signs are all merely suggestions in Russia; (b) snow on the roads in Russia means drive even more stupidly; and (c) you don't have to speak a word of Russian to know what a lot of these people are saying. |
| 12:54.36 | Fisker | :o |
| 12:54.54 | squeakytoy | anyone know if wow can't.. handle UTF? är unicode, etc? O_O |
| 12:55.09 | squeakytoy | or* |
| 12:55.30 | Fisker | I would say sometimes they seem merely suggestions as well in america Cairenn :P |
| 12:55.34 | Fisker | Probably not as much though |
| 12:55.44 | Cairenn | You're most likely correct. |
| 13:00.11 | Mr_Rabies | i'm far from the person that should probably answer this, but i think it depends on the locale, squeakytoy, but i think partial unicode support is available on most or all client regions by now? |
| 13:00.36 | squeakytoy | doesnt work for me, but it works on lua's demo page |
| 13:00.48 | squeakytoy | ive created a post to blizzard: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/12844334877#1 |
| 13:02.07 | Ivnedar | http://wowprogramming.com/snippets/UTF-8_aware_stringsub_7 |
| 13:02.44 | squeakytoy | oh |
| 13:03.09 | squeakytoy | thanks |
| 13:05.28 | Ivnedar | grab http://www.wowace.com/addons/utf8/ |
| 13:06.19 | Ivnedar | I'm surprised Blizzard haven't added them into the client |
| 13:08.51 | mikma | "guys, i'm bored. let's do a jump with semi! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVBcEg6klJI " |
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| 13:19.15 | karl_w_w | how stupid, this treasure requires archaeology |
| 13:21.40 | jleclanche | Shadowed: is the strata issue with work orders fixed in the latest version of SUF? |
| 13:21.48 | mikma | karl_w_w: well learn it, d'oh |
| 13:21.56 | mikma | karl_w_w: you can use the treasure with arch 1 |
| 13:22.04 | karl_w_w | yeah I hoped so |
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| 13:27.31 | karl_w_w | and this one requires arch skill 600 |
| 13:27.32 | Arrowmaster | squeakytoy: primary problem with unicode in wow is having a font that contains the glyphs you want |
| 13:27.36 | karl_w_w | so stupid |
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| 13:37.13 | karl_w_w | is there some easy way to get like 40 apexis crytals? |
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| 13:42.00 | Ivnedar | level 2 herb garden work orders, killing mobs in the lvl 100 areas |
| 13:42.07 | Ivnedar | finding apexis crystal treasures |
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| 13:53.34 | foxlit | znf: foxlit, ...where did you hide my mission count? << I accidentially dropped it in the nether. There's a ticket to fix this. |
| 13:54.47 | foxlit | znf: foxlit, any chance we can have the icons placed on the mission list instead of the tooltip? << That would make sense, and is coming soon. |
| 14:16.11 | Simca | http://www.wowdb.com/npcs/80371-typhon#related:comments i wonder what these are for |
| 14:24.20 | Xuerian | foxlit: Awesome. |
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| 14:47.19 | karl_w_w | mobs seem to chase so far |
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| 14:55.23 | EthanCentaurai | Esamynn|Away: Apologies if you are already aware, but your website and svn repo are down |
| 14:56.47 | squeakytoy | SVN? omg :( |
| 14:56.51 | squeakytoy | it hurts |
| 15:25.26 | zenzelezz | "surprise attacks" in games would be more surprising if you didn't see the auto-save spinner beforehand |
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| 15:34.38 | squeakytoy | the documentation for addons are awful |
| 15:35.56 | squeakytoy | If anyone is bored, shouldn't this create a button that invokes action 1 on the taskbar? if not, what did i miss? http://pastebin.com/C57Upifd |
| 15:37.57 | squeakytoy | nvm! i copy pasted wrong! |
| 15:40.11 | squeakytoy | http://pastebin.com/sLfpQcLh i meant :-) |
| 15:42.58 | zenzelezz | I'm not quite sure what you mean. Are you trying to create a button that's sort of a proxy for clicking on actionbar button 1? |
| 15:45.02 | squeakytoy | http://pastebin.com/sLfpQcLh <-- nope, just a simple button that does "Barkskin" |
| 15:45.05 | karl_w_w | holy crap a 10 hour mission |
| 15:45.33 | squeakytoy | Healing Touch* |
| 15:46.42 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: garrison follower mission? |
| 15:47.03 | nevcairiel | my followers just returned from a 24 hour mission |
| 15:47.55 | zenzelezz | wow |
| 15:48.01 | zenzelezz | haven't seen one of those yet |
| 15:48.25 | nevcairiel | raid missions will even be longer sometimes |
| 15:58.47 | karl_w_w | rofl |
| 15:59.15 | karl_w_w | i have completed 5 archaeology pieces, just cos i got them from treasures |
| 15:59.21 | karl_w_w | my final solve is a rare |
| 15:59.26 | karl_w_w | the ilvl 620 mace |
| 15:59.31 | karl_w_w | which is an upgrade |
| 16:00.44 | Ressy | nice |
| 16:00.54 | foxlit | o.O, spend more time in heroics. |
| 16:01.33 | foxlit | (maybe they should bump archeology item levels to heroic warforged or something. Jumping puzzles in Spires were kind of fun, though.) |
| 16:02.25 | Fisker | They probably should |
| 16:02.51 | Fisker | 640 ilevel random enchantment stuff that requires the same amount of work as a 30 slot bag should probably be better too |
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| 16:03.56 | karl_w_w | you don't know much about my drop luck foxlit |
| 16:04.30 | karl_w_w | I have been known to be half way through a raid tier still using items from the tier before last |
| 16:04.33 | Fisker | rage with me foxlit |
| 16:06.23 | Torhal | mikma: Which? :P |
| 16:07.09 | Fisker | my pleasure-bot is epic Torhal |
| 16:07.27 | Torhal | I blame technology, Fisker. |
| 16:07.47 | Fisker | You definitely should |
| 16:08.19 | Fisker | science be damned |
| 16:09.13 | Fisker | I need to remember what that addon that scanned your quests and showed you missing ones was called |
| 16:09.32 | mikma | torhal: latest archy from curse |
| 16:09.47 | Torhal | ... |
| 16:09.51 | Torhal | Which dig sites? :P |
| 16:10.03 | EthanCentaurai | I fixed a couple just now. >.> |
| 16:10.07 | EthanCentaurai | sorry Torhal |
| 16:10.14 | mikma | torhal: arakkoa |
| 16:10.16 | Torhal | That's fine. |
| 16:10.18 | squeakytoy | do closures exist in lua? hm |
| 16:10.29 | Torhal | mikma: Alrighty |
| 16:11.03 | mikma | torhal: Sethekk Hollow North Digsite, Veil Akraz Digsite, Bloodmane Valley Digsite |
| 16:11.48 | mikma | torhal: those 3 are being shown in Shadowmoon Valley eventho they really are located in Spires of Arak |
| 16:11.56 | EthanCentaurai | mikma: I fixed those |
| 16:12.10 | mikma | ethancentaurai: nice |
| 16:12.19 | Torhal | So we need a new tag? |
| 16:12.23 | Torhal | I'm not at all awake. |
| 16:12.44 | EthanCentaurai | if you like, though I think there might be others that are wrong |
| 16:12.44 | Torhal | Should probably go back to bed since I only slept 8 hours after being awake for well over 24. |
| 16:14.19 | Simca | nothing was wrong with the dig sites |
| 16:14.36 | EthanCentaurai | Simca: some of them had incorrect map IDs |
| 16:14.56 | Xuerian | squeakytoy: Yeah. |
| 16:14.57 | Fisker | looks like you lose timber if you mount as the cast finishes :/ |
| 16:14.58 | Simca | isn't the mapID draenor in every case? |
| 16:15.05 | Fisker | damnit Torhal |
| 16:15.13 | squeakytoy | Xuerian, functions are one scope? |
| 16:15.20 | squeakytoy | thats cool |
| 16:15.49 | EthanCentaurai | Simca: no, the map id is for the individual zones |
| 16:15.55 | Simca | ahhh |
| 16:16.02 | Xuerian | squeakytoy: I'm not the one to ask for [correct] details, but we've got closures. Lua's a lovely little gal. |
| 16:16.09 | EthanCentaurai | continent is always 7 though, that bit is correct |
| 16:16.56 | Torhal | What now, Fisker? Testicular homicide? |
| 16:17.13 | EthanCentaurai | he's mad because he no longer has wood |
| 16:17.24 | Torhal | Oh. |
| 16:17.43 | Fisker | I do have wood :( |
| 16:17.45 | EthanCentaurai | i meant from chopping the trees down >.> |
| 16:18.04 | Torhal | Wait - he was chopping down trees with it? |
| 16:18.13 | EthanCentaurai | hahaha |
| 16:18.16 | Fisker | same |
| 16:18.37 | Fisker | <-not lewd |
| 16:19.41 | Fisker | kirin tor mages are dumb |
| 16:20.59 | Torhal | Definitely, Fisker. Silly bastards pulled Dalaran out of the ground and forgot to turn off the purple dome when they left. |
| 16:24.04 | Simca | EthanCentaurai: Fixed 9 more of them and pushed the fix. There are only a few left i'm not sure about |
| 16:25.00 | Simca | North Spirit Woods Digsite, Ango'rosh Digsite, Forgotten Ogre Ruin Digsite, and Ruins of Na'gwa Digsite - those are all listed as Talador, and that's probably not the case |
| 16:25.20 | Simca | everything else i'm pretty confident in |
| 16:25.40 | Torhal | Simca: These would be correct - manual visits: http://jodagr.boerde.de/~micha/wow/digsites.lua |
| 16:26.08 | Simca | excellent, ty |
| 16:26.41 | Simca | yeah, 2 of those i wasn't sure about are actually nagrand |
| 16:26.44 | Torhal | Effort to get rid of LibBabble-DigSites |
| 16:30.59 | Simca | 3 more were wrong; pushed a change for those too. should be perfect now |
| 16:35.45 | Simca | I wonder why the babble libraries don't have open repos |
| 16:36.08 | Simca | i mean, dormant authors are a great way to kill off libraries |
| 16:36.32 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 16:37.21 | nevcairiel | most babble libs get updated by a script from the locale system, some random commits in those would be pointless |
| 16:37.32 | nevcairiel | although digsites is not on that list i think since the author was weird |
| 16:37.53 | Kalroth | babble babble |
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| 17:17.58 | Kesava | i don't suppose it's possible to use different usernames/emails for different remotes with git |
| 17:19.11 | Constie | I picked the right profession. http://i.imgur.com/QQON85G.png |
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| 17:25.28 | Torhal | Kesava: No, that data is attached to the commit itself. |
| 17:26.01 | Kesava | right, ty. no worries anyway since it doesn't particularly matter what email i use on curse. |
| 17:26.08 | Kesava | Xuerian: https://github.com/kesava-wow/kuinameplates |
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| 17:26.57 | Kesava | .. or maybe it does matter. but i'm already using the right one. |
| 18:00.54 | squeakytoy | im so tired reading wow coding docs |
| 18:01.10 | squeakytoy | kinda frustrating |
| 18:10.09 | Dagmar | Dratted Blizz. I wish I knew why these simplified gun designs aren't allowed to be trassmogged |
| 18:12.26 | karl_w_w | oh damn you cant kill wild pets anymore |
| 18:12.45 | karl_w_w | i wanted to kill this one so no horde came to it and found me afking nearby |
| 18:13.43 | Dagmar | Fire trap. |
| 18:13.49 | Dagmar | Use an AoE. |
| 18:13.59 | Dagmar | I just blew a squirrel straight to hell. |
| 18:14.46 | Dagmar | ...as many times as I've had some wild animal attack me when I'm about to try catching one, and had the sparklemonkey obliterate it, I didn't think that sounded right |
| 18:17.14 | karl_w_w | yeah i dropped magma totem it didnt die |
| 18:17.19 | karl_w_w | a royal moth in shattrath |
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| 18:25.49 | Amarande | Dagmar: "because Blizzard feels like it" no doubt |
| 18:26.15 | Amarande | and dammit Blizzard do you seriously have to provide such a level of adorableness in the 10th anniversary perk pet |
| 18:26.21 | Amarande | especially since I already have the cinder kitten |
| 18:26.34 | Amarande | but, but, I'm playing FFXIV right now... dammit! :( |
| 18:26.58 | Amarande | but ... that lava corgi is the perfect sidekick for the cinder kitten ... |
| 18:27.08 | Amarande | *sigh* |
| 18:35.43 | fewyn | i'm playing both! |
| 18:47.17 | Amarande | yeah, that's the thing, I can't really justify subscribing to two MMOs at once :( |
| 18:47.41 | Amarande | because it occurs to me ... I can pay 15 bucks a month or 60 (if I added LOTRO and TOR to the mix too), but either way I've still got the same amount of time to game |
| 18:48.18 | Amarande | also since I stopped using spinning hard drives altogether, I've also got the same amount of limited SSD space no matter what, too :( |
| 18:48.35 | Amarande | at what, something like 20-30 GB per game for MMOs |
| 18:49.22 | Amarande | otoh ... fire corgi ... dammit Blizz why must you know my weakness for adorable things :( |
| 18:49.46 | Amarande | (wait, they probably know this because they keep sekrit statistics on everything we do in the game, so they *know* what we like and don't like ... LOL) |
| 19:07.06 | karl_w_w | i think grimrail is the best dungeon wow has had |
| 19:08.13 | Amarande | karl: better than old Scholomance or Kara? (or are we not counting raids here) |
| 19:09.08 | Amarande | (also, I'm probably discounting gameplay fairly strongly, since the thing that always has made me fall in love with Scholo and Kara is that dark horror atmospheric which is absent nearly everywhere else) |
| 19:09.53 | Amarande | well, ICC has it too ... probably another reason I've regarded Wrath as the pinnacle for WoW |
| 19:11.12 | Constie | I healed a heroic Grimrail today where the tank died to fire less than halfway through the second boss fight. It was pretty fun. |
| 19:11.32 | znf | foxlit, any chance you can put the amount of BonusXP below the icon on the mission list, so I know which one to prioritize at a glance? |
| 19:12.26 | karl_w_w | dungeons only count dungeons yes |
| 19:12.40 | karl_w_w | and scholo was junk |
| 19:13.59 | g0urra | really, blizzard? a mob called deepthroot? |
| 19:15.00 | znf | foxlit, also, I'm noticed an issue, I got a mission with 3 followers, MasterPlan is showing me "green" icons (ie: available counters), but those followers are on missions (it should be blue) |
| 19:15.48 | Constie | Liking MasterPlan, by the way. Wish I had heard of it before I made a spreadsheet with all my followers. |
| 19:16.51 | mikma | g0urra: what's the matter, linda lovelace was taken? :D |
| 19:22.16 | foxlit | znf: yes, showing rewards makes sense. |
| 19:22.48 | foxlit | znf: are your away-on-mission followers the only counters? It's also miscounting inactive and working followers. |
| 19:23.14 | znf | Oh, I see. |
| 19:23.31 | foxlit | still a bug, just wanted to make sure it's not multiple bugs. |
| 19:26.26 | znf | I think the API actually returns whcih followers are disabled, isn't it? |
| 19:26.49 | znf | foxlit, oh, could you also put a portrait icon on the progress mission list with the followers? |
| 19:29.09 | znf | foxlit, could actually use a grey border on the counters that you have, but the followers are inactive |
| 19:29.56 | foxlit | znf: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/master-plan/tickets/ :) |
| 19:30.07 | znf | I just dislike curseforge so much :D |
| 19:30.23 | foxlit | any particular reason? |
| 19:30.50 | znf | layout, no default open repos, allows file uploads :D |
| 19:34.25 | Amarande | Constie: ... the tank died to fire |
| 19:34.33 | Amarande | lemme guess wearing DPS gear? :P |
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| 19:34.51 | Amarande | I'm trying to imagine how you die to fire as a tank, unless it's fire you were supposed to move the boss out of |
| 19:35.05 | znf | WOAH |
| 19:35.07 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/cf.png << I don't think it's too bad. |
| 19:35.13 | znf | When did they increase the limit of GetAll() for the AH? :o |
| 19:35.18 | Amarande | if it's fire the boss spits at its target of attention (e.g., like that dragon in Hellfire Ramparts) ... you're kind of supposed to be able to take that ... |
| 19:35.33 | znf | Now I can actually do a daily scan! This is amazing! |
| 19:35.50 | Amarande | znf: um, I thought it was always a 15 minute cooldown on getall |
| 19:36.00 | znf | Amarande, I said limit. |
| 19:36.04 | znf | it was limited to 45k auctions |
| 19:36.09 | Amarande | and as far as I'm aware it hasn't had an item limit anytime recently |
| 19:36.19 | foxlit | The second grimrail boss is madness, anyway. It actually places unusual responsibilities on the dps, which has never worked once thus far. |
| 19:36.23 | Amarande | I was able to do getall scans with auctioneer on Illidan US during MoP, and that was 80k+ auctions |
| 19:37.01 | znf | It was 45k auctions limit |
| 19:37.17 | znf | It was like that until at least 5.2 when I last tried to do one |
| 19:37.35 | fewyn | there's a limit on auctions? |
| 19:37.41 | fewyn | oh scan limit |
| 19:37.49 | Amarande | foxlit: that's a matter of player skill, or would have been a matter of player skill since Wrath really :P |
| 19:38.03 | Amarande | in fact, it would be nice if more dungeons expected people not to be bad |
| 19:38.47 | Amarande | now in BC and vanilla I could see it having been impossible on a systemic level (hell, BC heroics kind of pushed the envelope, given people feeling specific classes, usually mage or rogue, were absolute necessities) |
| 19:39.14 | Amarande | because DPS classes' abilities were more diverse and specific back then, so you'd be creating an environment where you have-to-have this or that specific class to be in the DPS mix, which yeah, wouldn't work |
| 19:39.33 | Amarande | now that DPS abilities are more genericised, yeah, this should be a player skill matter :S |
| 19:40.01 | Amarande | and having medium-difficulty content is important |
| 19:40.28 | Amarande | znf: probably changed in 5.4 then, since that was when I tried playing on Illidan and Area 52 |
| 19:40.40 | Amarande | and both of those had WAY more than 45k auctions horde side |
| 19:40.47 | znf | fewyn, yeah |
| 19:40.49 | znf | scan limit |
| 19:40.51 | znf | it was horrible |
| 19:41.05 | znf | ever since I transfered to a high-pop realm I wasn't able to do a full scan (quick) |
| 19:41.05 | fewyn | yeah i remember it |
| 19:41.09 | znf | I had to do a long one that took ~2 hours |
| 19:41.31 | fewyn | https://theunderminejournal.com/#velen/seller/soufflé i know those feels |
| 19:44.30 | Amarande | Welcome to high pop realms, where the QUICK scan often takes ages LOL |
| 19:44.35 | Shirik | ok, time to decide what I'm going to do today |
| 19:44.47 | znf | well, the "normal" scan takes 2 hours |
| 19:44.53 | fewyn | that's cool iron docks didn't have a lootable corpse on the last boss in heroic |
| 19:44.55 | znf | and by the time you're done with it, it's outdated :D |
| 19:44.58 | Amarande | (well, the data comes in quick, but it doesn't really do much for the time it takes Auctioneer to process it) |
| 19:45.40 | znf | screw Auctioneer |
| 19:45.41 | Simca | the data is throttled; the processing time isn't bad |
| 19:45.43 | znf | is using Auctionator |
| 19:46.16 | znf | I switched to it when I moved to this high-pop realm |
| 19:46.59 | Simca | auctioneer has always been very confusing in its layout and its options panel setup |
| 19:47.19 | znf | yup |
| 19:47.23 | znf | and it's so many modules |
| 19:47.36 | Shirik | so don't use them? |
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| 19:47.54 | znf | I had most of them disabled |
| 19:48.00 | znf | They were still confusing as hell :P |
| 19:48.08 | Shirik | the disabled ones were confusing as hell |
| 19:48.31 | Shirik | Call me old-fashioned, but disabled mods should generally not be very confusing |
| 19:49.06 | Mr_Rabies | sometimes they're disabled because they were confusing :p |
| 19:49.19 | Shirik | at which point they stop being confusing |
| 19:49.49 | Mr_Rabies | they stop being used for the time being, but it doesn't change the module |
| 19:50.11 | Shirik | "Weather Condition: Snowing Hard and Continuously" "Current Chain Restrictions: Chains Required. Traction tires allowed in place of chains on vehicles under 10,000 GVW and not towing. Vehicles towing must use chains." |
| 19:50.16 | Shirik | Guess I'm not going outside today |
| 19:50.34 | Simca | if you are using an addon and disabling the vast majority of the addon, it is likely that you selected an addon that did not meet your needs very well |
| 19:51.52 | Shirik | the misconception is that auctioneer is a single addon |
| 19:51.53 | Shirik | it is not |
| 19:52.06 | Shirik | the problem is the way it is packaged |
| 19:52.14 | znf | yup |
| 19:52.19 | znf | comes with swatter |
| 19:52.24 | znf | and all that other crap |
| 19:52.37 | znf | I stopped using any norganna addons |
| 19:52.45 | nevcairiel | me too, just too annoying |
| 19:54.15 | znf | It's impressive that herbs are still at a good price on the AH |
| 19:54.19 | znf | at least on mine |
| 19:54.29 | znf | Cloth suddenly dropped from 80g/piece to 90s :D |
| 19:54.41 | znf | (once they fixed it so it actually drops...) |
| 19:54.50 | Simca | dust is rising and rising and rising |
| 19:54.58 | znf | it does? uuu |
| 19:55.08 | znf | I have shitloads :D |
| 19:55.14 | Simca | DEing doesn't provide nearly enough |
| 19:56.50 | znf | I don't even have DE |
| 19:56.55 | znf | I use my guildies buildings |
| 20:00.11 | karl_w_w | i got the dance studio mission |
| 20:00.41 | karl_w_w | completing it gives an item that can be used to teach a follower the dancer trait |
| 20:03.05 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 20:03.22 | zenzelezz | ah, the dance studio... wasn it WotLK it was planned/rumored to be included? |
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| 20:03.52 | karl_w_w | planned |
| 20:04.01 | znf | karl_w_w, careful |
| 20:04.04 | karl_w_w | it was even included in some promotional material |
| 20:04.07 | znf | karl_w_w, your follower will lose another trait |
| 20:04.18 | karl_w_w | yeah but you get a counter in place of a trait |
| 20:04.21 | karl_w_w | super useful |
| 20:04.33 | Semlar | so i have like 600 mails from the postmaster |
| 20:04.37 | znf | or ability |
| 20:04.38 | znf | something |
| 20:04.55 | kd3 | the wrath box also mentioned something about aerial combat in wintergrasp |
| 20:04.58 | Semlar | this is making it a huge pain to keep track of my actual mail |
| 20:04.58 | kd3 | funny how that turned out |
| 20:05.04 | zenzelezz | I can just picture it; the enemy is getting ready to use his powerful special when your follower pulls some moves. "Everybody dance now!" |
| 20:05.08 | znf | I love the postmaster |
| 20:05.12 | znf | but he needs to mail shit in bulk |
| 20:05.23 | znf | like 1 full mail of things |
| 20:05.26 | Semlar | it needs to delete the message when you effing loot it |
| 20:05.27 | znf | not 1 mail / 1 item >_< |
| 20:05.30 | znf | true |
| 20:06.08 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:06.09 | znf | man, our AH is so slow :( |
| 20:07.32 | g0urra | kd3: "Engage in aerial dogfights with flying mounts and new, gnome-engineered planes." |
| 20:07.40 | Semlar | someone mentioned postal to help with this but it explicitly doesn't delete mail |
| 20:09.05 | karl_w_w | does master plan have no settings? |
| 20:09.22 | karl_w_w | i dont know why anyone would want to use this addon the sort order is horrible |
| 20:09.51 | g0urra | ah, finally found the box |
| 20:11.09 | znf | karl_w_w, *points at foxlit* |
| 20:11.24 | znf | actually I think that it would be nicer to have the border highlighted instead of sort stuff |
| 20:11.52 | g0urra | http://puu.sh/d1hjG/f24c5d476e.jpg |
| 20:14.43 | mikma | g0urra: ... in what expansion? :D |
| 20:14.48 | g0urra | WotLK |
| 20:15.05 | mikma | roflcopters |
| 20:15.42 | znf | hmm http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/realmchecker |
| 20:15.44 | znf | this should be extended |
| 20:15.57 | znf | to color the groups in the thingie-finder |
| 20:16.37 | Semlar | color them? |
| 20:17.54 | Semlar | based on what |
| 20:18.57 | karl_w_w | if you have 39 things and 7 of them are picked at random, and this procedure is repeated 6 times, what is the chance that one specific of the things is never picked? |
| 20:19.18 | karl_w_w | 9 are picked in face |
| 20:19.20 | karl_w_w | in fact |
| 20:19.34 | Fisker | how do I archaeology in frostfire ridge at the 100 elites? |
| 20:19.41 | Fisker | just ragequit? |
| 20:19.43 | karl_w_w | 30/39 * 6 it should be? |
| 20:26.41 | znf | Semlar, sorry; you know how you can jump around realms and get rare spawns or bugged quests? |
| 20:26.53 | Semlar | yeah? |
| 20:27.08 | znf | Semlar, would be able to mark the realm that you already visited so you don't apply to the same group again |
| 20:27.22 | znf | would be nice to be able* |
| 20:27.41 | Semlar | how would it judge when to reset the list of servers you've visited |
| 20:28.32 | Iriel | karl_w_w: well, the chance of a specific thing not being picked during ONE of those selections is (38*37*36*35*34*33*32)/(39*38*37*36*35*34*33) = 32/39 |
| 20:28.50 | Iriel | karl_w_w: so the chance of it not being picked AT ALL for 6 of them is (32/39) ^ 6 |
| 20:29.24 | Semlar | let's say you visit 5 servers, you find what you're looking for, and want to do the same thing again 5 minutes later but now all of those servers you've already visited are greyed out |
| 20:29.34 | Iriel | Or about 30.5% |
| 20:30.02 | znf | Semlar, tooltips, "x minutes ago"? |
| 20:30.03 | Iriel | if itâs 9 being picked then (30/39) ^ 6 |
| 20:30.13 | Iriel | or 20.7% |
| 20:30.34 | Semlar | that would probably be annoying to use |
| 20:30.54 | Semlar | i think you'd need a button they can press to reset it |
| 20:31.28 | znf | actually X minutes is very useful |
| 20:31.35 | znf | for stuff that you know it spawns every X minutes |
| 20:31.54 | Iriel | Fisker: bring friends? |
| 20:32.43 | karl_w_w | thanks Iriel |
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| 20:35.35 | znf | Semlar, so, how I picture it - Groups are normally yellow. You apply to them, they're green (pending); If a group leader's realm has been visited before, color them something else, like blue (?) and display the last time of visit in the tooltip; then you should be able to also have a reset button to clear the color |
| 20:38.20 | Semlar | probably shouldn't really encourage that behavior though |
| 20:39.37 | Semlar | i think i broke my mailbox |
| 20:39.49 | Semlar | it's now only displaying 7 out of 600 mails |
| 20:42.12 | znf | Semlar, it is indeed shady |
| 20:42.14 | znf | but so useful |
| 20:42.32 | Semlar | i have yet to actually join a random premade just to switch servers |
| 20:43.09 | znf | well, if you try to get that Goldmane follower, for example, the quest bugs out |
| 20:43.16 | znf | so you have to find a realm that is not bugged |
| 20:44.58 | Dagmar | Semlar: THe Postmaster been helpin' ya out? |
| 20:45.06 | Semlar | i am going to kill the postmaster |
| 20:45.22 | znf | I love/hate him |
| 20:45.53 | Semlar | but first i need to figure out how to actually scan through, loot and delete the mail without breaking the mailbox |
| 20:45.56 | tz | if the mail disappeared after collection like the AH does, then it'd be fine |
| 20:47.51 | Semlar | is there a way to actually update the mail pages without reopening the mailbox |
| 20:48.00 | Semlar | since it only shows 50 items at a time |
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| 21:08.06 | sigg | Hello |
| 21:10.03 | Fisker | Nope Iriel |
| 21:10.08 | Fisker | But I'm level 700 now |
| 21:10.19 | Fisker | *forgets until next expansion* |
| 21:11.28 | sigg | anyone know how to extract the minimap blp for wod ? the path should be like World\\Minimaps\\xxxx\mapx_y |
| 21:11.38 | sigg | ? |
| 21:17.40 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
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| 21:24.24 | Fisker | Hey Shirik |
| 21:25.32 | Fisker | Highlight me like one of your French girls Shirik |
| 21:26.18 | Dagmar | Here's an example of bullshit sexism |
| 21:26.22 | Dagmar | wrong channel |
| 21:26.48 | Dagmar | (I found some idiot calling the Pokemon demo 'mysogyny') |
| 21:27.01 | Dagmar | (It's freakin' Pokemon for crying out loud) |
| 21:34.56 | Shirik | I thought pokemon was doing a good job of getting out of that stereotype |
| 21:35.18 | Shirik | the latest installments have allowed you to have an identical storyline with a female character, etc. |
| 21:35.32 | Shirik | red/blue didn't even have that option |
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| 21:43.52 | Amarande | wait, didn't Pokemon always ask you if your character was a boy or a girl? |
| 21:44.45 | Amarande | although the only one I've ever played from New Game point is Black |
| 21:45.39 | Gethe | since gold/silver there has been a boy/girl option |
| 21:46.07 | Gethe | first gen didn't |
| 21:46.29 | Amarande | ah |
| 21:47.00 | Amarande | Also, Pokemon is apparently even less sexist now, from what I'm reading ... hell if anything it favours females now in a way :) |
| 21:48.31 | Amarande | (prior to X/Y, it looks like certain moves had to be on the father in order to breed them over, now they can come from the mother as well ... which means to breed a desired Pokemon the one absolute is a *female* of the desired species. Dad barely matters one whit anymore except for egg chance and of course having a second set of potentially inheritable moves in the mix. Oh, and mother's moves have priority over father's in inheritance, too.) |
| 21:48.55 | Dagmar | Shirik: They are. The author of the article is just a hyperinflammatory flamebaiting douchenozzle |
| 21:49.42 | Amarande | also, Pokemon breeding makes even Persona 3 and 4 fusions seem simple *blink* |
| 21:49.42 | Dagmar | There's no _hate_ in Pokemon games |
| 21:50.12 | Dagmar | Hell they don't even use harsh language |
| 21:51.46 | Torhal | Holy shit. Is there a topic that you don't have insanely intimate knowledge of, Amarande? |
| 21:51.59 | Torhal | I sometimes suspect you're actually a commune of people taking turns with the Amarande persona. |
| 21:52.34 | Amarande | Torhal: I had some vague recollection of Pokemon breeding, but I had to google Bulbapedia to be sure on that one. :P |
| 21:52.58 | Torhal | Oh. |
| 21:53.06 | Shirik | ok |
| 21:53.08 | Constie | Fake geek. |
| 21:53.11 | Shirik | new question |
| 21:53.11 | Amarande | ... also, you act like maximising knowledge is a bad thing. :( |
| 21:53.14 | Shirik | DA:I: Yes or no? |
| 21:53.30 | Constie | Get DS II instead. |
| 21:53.47 | Torhal | No, not at all. Just seems your head is packed full of so much "useless" data that I can't fathom how you recall it all. |
| 21:53.50 | Amarande | DA:I looks interesting but I need to play DA2 first (and play DA:O again because I don't have my old saves to bring forward any backstory data from) |
| 21:57.13 | Dagmar | To be perfectly honest, if someone wanted to actually do something useful in the realm of "criticing strange sexuality issues" with Pokemon, they would call attention to the fact that the game normalizes the idea than when you leave your little ones at a day care center... |
| 21:57.24 | Dagmar | ...rather often someone winds up pregnant. |
| 21:57.31 | Dagmar | ...and that this is somehow _perfectly reasonable_. |
| 21:58.09 | Amarande | Shirik: Also here's hoping EA isn't going to ruin it with microtransactions, especially after they announced not too long ago that every future title of theirs will have same :( |
| 21:58.40 | Shirik | I'm not sure how you can ruin a primarily single-player game with microtransactions |
| 21:58.47 | Amarande | Shirik: three words |
| 21:58.51 | Amarande | "mobile Dungeon Keeper" |
| 22:00.09 | Amarande | We're talking the game review world here. Where 10 means that a game is awesome, 9 means we don't want to piss off the sponsors, 8 means that the game probably murdered the reviewer's cat and forced its tail down their throat while beating their wife and children with ethernet wires |
| 22:00.43 | Amarande | Mobile Dungeon Keeper universally got a 1, sometimes a *zero*. Reason? They ruined it so badly with microtransactions that it didn't even really qualify as a game anymore LOL |
| 22:00.59 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:06.33 | foxlit | there is a pair of wow icons with one and three silhouettes in orange outline on a black background. I unfortunately can't remember the texture paths :( |
| 22:19.30 | Dagmar | I can't believe he actually said that of EA |
| 22:19.41 | Dagmar | EA can ruin _everything_ |
| 22:20.24 | Kesava | they innovate too much |
| 22:20.25 | Dagmar | I'm just going to pretend DA:I was never released |
| 22:20.29 | Dagmar | It's safer |
| 22:20.49 | Thunder_Child | Safer for what? |
| 22:20.56 | Dagmar | Kesava: You say "innovate". I say "pervert and degrade". |
| 22:21.02 | foxlit | INV_Misc_GroupLooking |
| 22:21.09 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: Safer than finding out how badly EA fucks it up |
| 22:21.12 | Kesava | you're just not ready for their innovations |
| 22:21.36 | Dagmar | It's a near certainly there'll be pay2win going on |
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| 22:45.52 | Amarande | And even before the age of DLC ... I grew up with Ultima, there's a reason I have something of an eternal animosity towards EA :P |
| 22:46.24 | Krevan | Anyone know if there is an addon, or if someone is working on an addon for work orders in Garrisons that can queue multiple WOs at once? |
| 22:47.35 | Amarande | Krevan, I'd be surprised if the API lets you do that |
| 22:48.02 | nebula169 | considering you have to stand at a npc to queue, not sure how you'd do multiple |
| 22:48.07 | Amarande | You can't even queue more than one personal tradeskill recipe at once (if you use something like ATSW or Skillet you have to keep clicking to continue after each individual type of item is finished) |
| 22:48.35 | Amarande | so even if nebula169's bit could be dealt with I'd be really really surprised if you can programmatically queue up more than one order |
| 22:48.59 | Krevan | I mean like if you want to do 19 Engineering Work Orders, like making 19 of an item in the past. |
| 22:49.11 | nebula169 | ah, that's probably possible |
| 22:49.46 | Amarande | oh, you mean like the garrison version of "craft more than one at once" ... that sounds like something it'd let you do, I'm not entirely sure how, though |
| 22:50.22 | Amarande | last time I played wow was before garrisons (though that cute lil fire corgi is tempting me to come back ... but I can get that for just 15 bucks to reup and say hello to all my old WoW buddies, I don't need to buy the expansion for that :P) |
| 22:50.28 | nebula169 | it had nothing to do with the tradeskill ui |
| 22:50.31 | nebula169 | has* |
| 22:50.46 | Krevan | Yeah, that's my problem. I would love to make an addon like that, but I hardly know how to do my tooltip addon, and the queueing would be a LOT more in depth, me thinks. |
| 22:50.48 | Amarande | nebula169: no, I presume it has to do with that each individual item craft type is a spell |
| 22:50.59 | nebula169 | you'd be wrong |
| 22:51.01 | Amarande | and you cannot initiate a new spell without a hardware event (basic protected UI principle) |
| 22:51.10 | nebula169 | it's clicking a button on a timer |
| 22:52.05 | Amarande | "craft more than one of the same" I believe is built into the base UI, so that is allowable, but crafting item A and then moving on to item B would be some form of castspell, I assume |
| 22:52.20 | Amarande | and not being able to castspell programmatically is one of The Basic Rules |
| 22:52.30 | Amarande | right? |
| 22:52.44 | nebula169 | i already said it has nothing to do with the tradeskill ui, its not crafting, it's basically completely a quest |
| 22:52.54 | nebula169 | completing* |
| 22:53.24 | Amarande | ah |
| 22:53.40 | Krevan | That's the idea I am going for. Input or select a number (can't go over what you have for supplies) and then hit "Submit Work Order(s)" and it queues them all at once. |
| 22:53.44 | Amarande | hm, then you probably can, Krevan |
| 22:54.03 | Krevan | Now I just need to figure out how. |
| 22:54.20 | Amarande | I vaguely seem to recall there were addons that let you do things like do multiple turnins of things like cloth (back when you had to turn in mountains of runecloth to max out city factions), which sounds like it's more like this |
| 22:54.26 | Amarande | but I might be wrong on that, too (I seem to be wrong a lot, LOL) |
| 22:55.27 | Krevan | I know that WoW is a crazy game to code addons for, so no worries. I'm just trying to either see if someone can point me in the right direction, or maybe if I can spark interest in developing for someone else. |
| 22:59.39 | nebula169 | Krevan: relevant api calls: C_Garrison.RequestShipmentCreation(), C_Garrison.GetNumPendingShipments(), C_Garrison.RequestShipmentInfo() -> SHIPMENT_CRAFTER_INFO to get max shipments |
| 23:01.00 | Krevan | Haha. And just to show how much LUA and API stuff I know. That's all french to me. HAHA |
| 23:01.49 | Amarande | Krevan: "Lua", before someone gets on your case about it :) |
| 23:01.58 | Amarande | it's a berserk button for some folks here heh |
| 23:02.53 | Krevan | Oh. Okay. Thanks |
| 23:03.00 | Amarande | I used to call it LUA myself, probably because I grew up with DOS so I got used to the habit of referring to file extensions (and data associated with said files) in all caps |
| 23:03.24 | Krevan | That's my problem, except I didn't grow up with DOS. |
| 23:03.26 | Amarande | but it's not an acronym, and that all caps thing kinda was supposed to have died out with DOS :) |
| 23:04.08 | Amarande | in fact ... actually, wait, yeah that may be a reason folks here have an inherent hate for all caps file extensions |
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| 23:05.28 | Amarande | lots of Linux users here, and it can get quite maddening in Linux to copy/download/extract etc. a file and then inconveniently (because file names in Linux are case sensitive) find that you've got a bunch of files with allcaps extensions |
| 23:05.32 | Amarande | when the rest of your stuff's lowercase :) |
| 23:06.24 | zenzelezz | lol.HTML |
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| 23:07.33 | squeakytoy | anyone use healbot? Apparently, i am not landing heals on the clicked target, but on my target - known issue? |
| 23:15.37 | fewyn | the local grocery store makes fresh tortillas... my room mate brought back fresh tortillas made with CINNAMON... oh my god they are so good |
| 23:15.46 | squeakytoy | oh wow |
| 23:15.47 | squeakytoy | its wamr? |
| 23:15.54 | fewyn | they are warm yes |
| 23:15.58 | fewyn | freshly made |
| 23:16.50 | squeakytoy | must smell awesome too |
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| 23:20.39 | Amarande | mmm, cinnamon, just in time for the holidays |
| 23:20.47 | Amarande | maybe I should pick up some fireball when I get the thanksgiving wine |
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