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| 00:35.43 | Gnarfoz | jleclanche: are you taking up valuable server capacity and spending it afk?! :D |
| 00:35.53 | fewyn | whats an afk |
| 00:36.07 | Gnarfoz | various things |
| 00:37.29 | karl_w_w | a friendly kormorant |
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| 00:45.58 | fewyn | hrm rare spawns aren't spawning very fast now :( |
| 00:50.14 | fewyn | i wish i could change the purple glow to something a little more noticible |
| 00:50.19 | fewyn | it clashes with a lot of things |
| 00:50.26 | fewyn | and makes it unseeable |
| 00:50.27 | Semlar | you can disable it |
| 00:50.34 | fewyn | but i want to see it! |
| 00:50.47 | Semlar | it turns into sparkles |
| 00:50.58 | fewyn | sparkles are just as bad |
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| 01:05.13 | Gnarfoz | p3lim: any chance of excluding follower bodyguards from the Monomyth? I keep clicking on mine in combat and get the "do you really want to send your bodyguard away?!?!" popup :>_> |
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| 01:10.48 | kd3 | wow, warlord zaela is rough |
| 01:22.57 | p3lim | Gnarfoz: I'll take a look at it |
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| 01:33.05 | xyphoid_ | are there any cases of the same character meeting themselves in WoD |
| 01:33.53 | xyphoid_ | (i haven't done the hordeside plot yet and i'm trying to get the situation straight in my head) |
| 01:41.21 | kd3 | no |
| 01:41.32 | kd3 | this isn't a time-travel story. it's alternate universe |
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| 01:41.43 | kd3 | it just happens to be 35 years ago |
| 01:42.16 | Dagmar | I was under the impression that the timeline fork happened 35 years ago |
| 01:42.32 | xyphoid_ | well, i mean the original character meeting their alternate |
| 01:43.05 | Dagmar | Seems like Thrall's just kinda the same everywhere |
| 01:43.14 | kd3 | cause he's our thrall |
| 01:43.28 | Dagmar | I guess alt-Thrall got eaten or something |
| 01:43.41 | xyphoid_ | i don't think thrall came from draenor did he |
| 01:44.08 | Gnarfoz | nobody came from Draenor, they all came from Outland |
| 01:44.14 | Dagmar | I dunno. I never considered that. I just sort of assumed all orc of note came through Medivh's portal |
| 01:44.47 | Dagmar | I thought the Sundering was post Kil'j |
| 01:45.28 | Dagmar | meh |
| 01:45.53 | xyphoid_ | it didn't help that i didn't see the end of pandaria cinematics haha - where does garrosh escape and go to alt-draenor |
| 01:46.01 | xyphoid_ | is that a book thing |
| 01:46.19 | Gnarfoz | must be, it's not in game |
| 01:46.30 | Gnarfoz | (or if it is, I somehow missed it) |
| 01:47.14 | Dagmar | Well, the thing that broke Outlands was Ner'zhul while he was all high on demon blood |
| 01:47.26 | Dagmar | Before then it _was_ Draenor |
| 01:47.44 | Dagmar | I'm lookin' at stuff on wikis and I'm pretty sure I've for this bit right |
| 01:47.55 | kd3 | yup |
| 01:48.10 | kd3 | (running ubrs, kinda distracted) |
| 01:48.18 | Dagmar | In one timeline, Ner'zhul refused to drink the Kool-Aid. All five orc tribes become The Iron Horde. 35 years later they become ballsy enough to build a giant red portal. |
| 01:48.45 | xyphoid_ | that whole bit in game where you were going to attack garrosh i assumed would be alt-garrosh |
| 01:49.03 | Dagmar | In the other timeline, Ner'zhul drank the Kool-Aid, and taking diplomacy tips from Gul'dan and Mannoroth, began kicking everyone else's asses on Draenor. |
| 01:49.04 | kd3 | kairoz specifically picked a timeline where garrosh wasn't born |
| 01:49.39 | Dagmar | 35 years later, Azeroth decides they have enough orcs, and launch an expedition to put a stop to the whole thing. Ner'zhul freaks out and opens too many portals, which promptly tear Draenor to bits. |
| 01:50.06 | Dagmar | ...and I blame dragons. |
| 01:50.52 | Dagmar | Every time someone's doing something stupid to the timeline, dragons are just standing there trying to look all innocent. |
| 01:51.54 | Mr_Rabies | i would still love to hear a story about what happened to Azeroth B |
| 01:52.19 | Mr_Rabies | the Azeroth in the same universe as Draenor in WoD |
| 01:52.21 | Dagmar | No causal intersection |
| 01:52.39 | kd3 | there is an azeroth b, we just don't know anything about it |
| 01:53.09 | Mr_Rabies | even if it was just a short story on the site I'd love to hear about it |
| 01:53.11 | Dagmar | It isn't likely to have forked _much_, with the exception of perhaps their Medivh never summoned orcs |
| 01:53.20 | Dagmar | He probably summoned a bunch of merlocs. |
| 01:53.37 | Mr_Rabies | No thrall, no exodus to kalimdor, no scourge |
| 01:54.12 | Mr_Rabies | No Garona to kill Llane |
| 01:54.24 | Dagmar | Considering we sent our expeditionary force that freaked Ner'Z out some years back _and never heard from them again_, the Iron Horde might have just stomped them into the dirt and then salted over the place.. |
| 01:55.18 | Mr_Rabies | The timelines aren't parallel currently in WoD |
| 01:55.29 | Mr_Rabies | their draenor is 30 someodd years ago |
| 01:55.37 | Mr_Rabies | compared to our azeroth |
| 01:56.59 | kd3 | http://wowpedia.org/Timeline_%28unofficial%29#Warlords_of_Draenor |
| 01:57.02 | xyphoid_ | do we know how much time garrosh has spent there |
| 01:57.04 | xyphoid_ | snap |
| 02:00.51 | Dagmar | There's no telling |
| 02:01.33 | xyphoid_ | also do we know if the first war happened here as well? or does this predate that? |
| 02:01.57 | Dagmar | We need a redshirt guy to sort this out |
| 02:02.05 | Ivnedar | timeline b is currently a few years before wc1 storyline isn't it? |
| 02:02.09 | Ivnedar | looks at link |
| 02:02.12 | xyphoid_ | i think it must be |
| 02:02.23 | xyphoid_ | on the other hand medivh showing up in 6.1 would be pretty hilarious |
| 02:02.30 | Dagmar | I can think of no reason why the portal would also travel forward in time |
| 02:02.33 | foxlit | no demon-blood-drinking-orcs, no warcraft I. |
| 02:03.04 | Dagmar | But again... f**k dragons. |
| 02:03.10 | foxlit | Dagmar: it's clearly explained on page 6548 of your "Time travel in video game fiction" manual. Look it up. |
| 02:03.18 | Ivnedar | travel forwards in time? |
| 02:03.32 | Ivnedar | as in between when garrosh left A to go to B and when the iron horde invaded? |
| 02:03.50 | Dagmar | Well, from the timeline fork, if there was no forward temporal movement, the Iron Horde would ahve been kicking around some 40-50 years before building their portal |
| 02:04.00 | Dagmar | ...but apparently only like 5 passed |
| 02:04.26 | kd3 | s/5/2/ |
| 02:04.58 | Dagmar | I think someone should have whiteboarded better, personally. |
| 02:05.14 | xyphoid_ | yeah azeroth/a/0 is linked to draenor/b/-30 - but that means that in azeroth/b/-30 medivh is just going 'man you know what i need, a crossdimensional army of demon orcs' |
| 02:05.34 | xyphoid_ | if we don't get a karazahn raid with medivh as the boss during this xpack i will eat my hat |
| 02:05.43 | Dagmar | heh |
| 02:06.04 | Dagmar | Maybe they'll roll out bits of the areas of Kara that had people so worked up |
| 02:06.13 | Ivnedar | the upside down tower part |
| 02:06.37 | kd3 | the room of upside-down sinners |
| 02:06.38 | Dagmar | When you take that into account, demon orcs sounding like a good idea makes a bit more sense |
| 02:06.54 | xyphoid_ | i could have used an army of crossdimensional demon orcs at work yesterday to be honest |
| 02:07.51 | Ivnedar | the portal from draenor to azeroth was a collaboration on both sides, anchor points were built at the same time on both sides to widen the portal to army sized |
| 02:08.08 | Ivnedar | the new portal crossed dimensions as well as distance |
| 02:08.22 | Ivnedar | anchored to the portal at the time/reality point that garrosh left from |
| 02:09.02 | Dagmar | I'd like to see us tell the Infinite Dragonflight to piss off this expansion |
| 02:10.55 | xyphoid_ | i always liked those dudes as baddies |
| 02:11.24 | xyphoid_ | the plant guys in draenor are cool baddies too - nice to have some Evil People who have a light airy graphic design situation |
| 02:11.48 | Dagmar | The fact that there's about a billion of them just outside Lunarfall is useful as well |
| 02:11.52 | Ivnedar | sitting in the pub, drinking some infinite brew, one of them says "Hrrm, I wonder what would happen if Thrall was never born" "Duuuuude, we should so do that!" |
| 02:13.58 | xyphoid_ | i mean they're not into DEMONIC CORRUPTION or WORLD DOMINATION, they just want to use you as delicious fertilizer. maybe raid 6.2 can be the Tillers Militant against the Botani Pumpkinlord |
| 02:21.53 | karl_w_w | WinWaker = DendiFace (no anything) |
| 03:04.12 | Mr_Rabies | what zone is the kairoz stuff covered in? |
| 03:13.13 | Ivnedar | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/lore/savage-world/hellscream/page-1 |
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| 03:25.59 | Mr_Rabies | man i want to know why my tooltips keep disappearing :< |
| 03:26.08 | Mr_Rabies | i've got something breaking them |
| 03:26.09 | Ressy | I've been getting that too |
| 03:26.17 | Mr_Rabies | do you use itemleveldisplay by chance? |
| 03:26.18 | Ressy | Something I updated yesterday |
| 03:26.21 | Ressy | no |
| 03:26.42 | Mr_Rabies | hmm, that was my guess since it's the only thing throwing lua errors and it reads tooltips i think? |
| 03:26.48 | Ivnedar | many people are seeing it, we haven't found a single overlapping addon yet |
| 03:26.55 | Ressy | quick /rl fixes it |
| 03:27.01 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 03:27.08 | kd3 | it's listed in the known bugs sticky |
| 03:27.09 | kd3 | something in the engine |
| 03:27.12 | Ressy | oh |
| 03:27.13 | Mr_Rabies | ran a framestack to see if i could see a frame covering it, but no |
| 03:27.15 | Mr_Rabies | ah, thanks kd3 |
| 03:27.29 | kd3 | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14865856454 |
| 03:27.34 | Ivnedar | the tooltip appears for 1 frame then vanishes or something like that |
| 03:27.47 | Ivnedar | if you load your machine up, you'll see it flash up |
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| 03:34.15 | pompy1 | "Your Battle.net account now has access to the BlizzCon {0} Virtual Ticket." |
| 03:34.18 | pompy1 | {0} ehh? |
| 03:36.30 | karl_w_w | 2014? |
| 03:42.32 | pompy1 | karl_w_w: yep |
| 03:43.03 | Shirik | someone forgot a string.Format |
| 03:51.11 | pompy1 | they sure did |
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| 03:56.46 | Gnarfoz | Zooti Fizzlefury! |
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| 04:57.48 | Seerah | Esamynn: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=300591 if you haven't seen it yet |
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| 05:21.30 | Esamynn | Seerah: thanks for the headsup |
| 05:23.01 | Torhal | Simca: Only one unknown race left, and from the digsite name, I think it's fake. |
| 05:23.37 | Simca | Dataminer's Delite one? |
| 05:23.37 | Ivnedar | the dataminer's delite one? |
| 05:23.40 | Ivnedar | :D |
| 05:27.20 | Simca | Torhal: Zangarra is wrong in the current alpha's data as well, btw - it's Ogre, not Draenor Clans |
| 05:28.39 | Ivnedar | I wonder if sites can be more than one faction |
| 05:29.04 | Ivnedar | my list didn't match the one Torhal had, and sounds like there are more conflicts too |
| 05:29.55 | Torhal | Simca: Eh, yeah. What I have says Ogre as well |
| 05:30.00 | Torhal | I'm just playing right now |
| 05:30.06 | Torhal | Not fixing shit unless spurred to. |
| 05:30.14 | Torhal | ...today I was spurred. :P |
| 05:30.44 | Torhal | I'll look at the list I have versus what's in the AddOn tomorrow. |
| 05:32.31 | Thunder_Child | spurrs Torhal harder.... |
| 05:32.50 | Thunder_Child | spurs* |
| 05:32.55 | Torhal | I want to play my shiny new expansion, not go through the horrific mess that is Archy's code,. |
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| 05:33.30 | Torhal | I think I'll actually ground-zero it this expansion, since I have the feeling I'll actually play. |
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| 05:33.48 | Torhal | Nuke from orbit and start over. |
| 05:50.24 | ccox | disconnects/char not found -- hmm, time for dinner, or hearthstone? |
| 05:50.45 | Constie | Both. |
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| 05:53.37 | Ssateneth | wait 20 mins, relog |
| 06:21.37 | Mr_Rabies | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/barthilas-old-au/Taunna/simple |
| 06:21.38 | Mr_Rabies | interesting |
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| 06:29.23 | Ssateneth | whats interesting about it? |
| 06:29.44 | kullervo | missing character preview? |
| 06:29.45 | Ivnedar | yeah, the new servers still don't appear on the armory |
| 06:29.57 | Ivnedar | you can query the api for them though |
| 06:29.59 | kullervo | oh right server name's funky too |
| 06:44.43 | jleclanche | Gnarfoz: what do you care that I'm afk? :P |
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| 06:51.25 | nevcairiel | he is just a caring person |
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| 07:16.26 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: hm, I think they nerfed it oO |
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| 07:16.34 | jleclanche | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:16.35 | jleclanche | yess |
| 07:16.40 | Gnarfoz | or my server is lazy with spawning ^^ |
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| 07:21.30 | nevcairiel | nerfed what |
| 07:24.12 | Gnarfoz | crazy respawn spiders |
| 07:24.29 | nevcairiel | did you catch Stanzilla exploiting again! |
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| 07:30.57 | jleclanche | how do you get into frostfire ridge as alliance? |
| 07:31.05 | jleclanche | there's a boulder in the way |
| 07:31.29 | nevcairiel | why does everyone not find it |
| 07:31.35 | nevcairiel | there is a way between the boulders |
| 07:31.39 | nevcairiel | explore, dammnit! |
| 07:32.10 | jleclanche | ah theres a hole |
| 07:32.12 | jleclanche | yeah |
| 07:32.23 | jleclanche | I did look! |
| 07:33.02 | jleclanche | draenor climate is fucking weird |
| 07:33.15 | jleclanche | suddenly, snow! |
| 07:33.29 | nevcairiel | magic did it |
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| 07:46.23 | nevcairiel | Esamynn: ping |
| 07:46.33 | Esamynn | nevcairiel: what's up? |
| 07:46.41 | nevcairiel | hey you live! |
| 07:46.55 | nevcairiel | are you working on fixing astrolabe? it has a bunch of issues since 6.0 |
| 07:47.13 | Esamynn | yes, I am trying to find time to get to it, hopefully this week |
| 07:47.42 | Esamynn | I'd appreciate email on any problems you are having though, just to make sure I get them all |
| 07:49.56 | nevcairiel | I can do that |
| 07:50.02 | Esamynn | thanks |
| 07:50.18 | Esamynn | bed time right now, good night |
| 08:01.55 | Ssateneth | I don't suppose anyone knows of an addon that, with customizeable stats scores, gives a score to individual pieces of gear? |
| 08:02.11 | Ssateneth | Kind of like http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13527-StatScore.html#info |
| 08:02.16 | Ssateneth | But its outdated |
| 08:04.53 | jleclanche | !api flight |
| 08:07.05 | jleclanche | so since 5.1, pets show their quality in combat. but they don't show it immediately, it takes like a second during which the *previously seen pet quality* will show up for the accompanying pets. did anyone make an addon to fix this? |
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| 09:21.05 | Torhal | I was having so much fun with this expansion until Pinchwhistle Point. |
| 09:21.31 | Torhal | Now I just want to stab someone for making a questline replete with death traps. |
| 09:21.34 | NuSuey | greetings everyone |
| 09:21.40 | Torhal | Yo |
| 09:22.59 | nevcairiel | Torhal: whats the fun in question if you dont die when doing something wrong, the world is a dangerous place! |
| 09:23.15 | nevcairiel | questing* |
| 09:24.35 | NuSuey | any idea how could I link a cinematics name to a existing (probably datamined/exctracted) video from WoW? guess this project of mine is harder than I thought >.< |
| 09:24.45 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Nah, this is bullshit. Mobs that respawn 2 minutes after you kill them, surround you, and punch you to death in less than 10 seconds. Mobs that drop items pertaining to a quest that are insanely difficult, split into multiples, and swarm you to death. |
| 09:25.12 | Torhal | ...and drop the item one in 10 kills. |
| 09:25.25 | Torhal | Oldschool quest style! |
| 09:25.48 | nevcairiel | maybe you are just very unlucky, i dont remember having any problems |
| 09:25.56 | nevcairiel | but then i just cast starfall and see everything around me die |
| 09:28.04 | Torhal | Heh |
| 09:31.48 | karl_w_w | wow what's the name of that shithole on the internet |
| 09:31.50 | karl_w_w | i forgot |
| 09:31.59 | Cidan | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:32.00 | karl_w_w | tumblr that's it |
| 09:32.03 | Cidan | oh that |
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| 09:37.29 | karl_w_w | a profitable habit of torso exposure, quote of the year |
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| 13:19.37 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:19.54 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Floofy-one. |
| 13:20.48 | Fisker | You teach me so many new words Lopeppeppy |
| 13:25.07 | cogu | is there a way of, in oUF, sorting the raid unit frames by role? Like, 1st all the tanks, then all the healers, then the DPS |
| 13:28.44 | haste | you can do groupBy = "ROLE" or "ASSIGNEDROLE" |
| 13:29.19 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 13:29.23 | haste | hey Fisker |
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| 13:29.45 | Lopeppeppy | It is my role in life, to share education. |
| 13:30.34 | karl_w_w | http://i.4cdn.org/b/1416306970181.jpg |
| 13:33.34 | cogu | nice, thx |
| 13:36.21 | Semlar | tries to calm torhal down |
| 13:38.00 | Semlar | is the garrison character-specific |
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| 14:01.03 | nevcairiel | yes |
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| 15:24.55 | jnwhiteh | Here's a bug I'm having on Android Lollipop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kchv-2rsysk |
| 15:24.57 | jnwhiteh | anyone else able to reproduce it? |
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| 15:53.47 | Lopeppeppy | Why can I not have vodka in the water cooler? |
| 15:57.19 | Xinhuan | time for that new startup, selling vodka coolers |
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| 16:03.11 | Neffi_ | well people may confuse the water and the vodka, and we wouldn't want people drinking water, right? |
| 16:08.41 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, Neffi. |
| 16:09.09 | Lopeppeppy | "Today, we have secretly switched the office cooler from water to vodka. Let's see if anyone notices." |
| 16:16.31 | Fisker | Somebody did that at my school, a girl was feeling a bit drunk, so they gave her a glass of vodka instead of water |
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| 16:37.33 | karl_w_w | is garrosh garrison's father? |
| 16:39.56 | g0urra | hm, another server restart |
| 16:45.37 | Semlar | that's like the third time today |
| 16:45.51 | Semlar | y u do dis |
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| 16:48.20 | fewyn | aw you can't headhunt a follower with lumber mill trait |
| 16:49.01 | nevcairiel | nope, there is only one follower ever you can throw in there |
| 16:49.14 | fewyn | he requires the level 3 mill right? |
| 16:49.44 | nevcairiel | yes |
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| 17:07.35 | A-KO | hmmm |
| 17:07.40 | A-KO | any way to rename a curse account? |
| 17:07.56 | Fisker | I think they did renames a while back |
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| 17:09.38 | nevcairiel | A-KO: it usually asks me on every other site where i login after a while |
| 17:12.03 | Semlar | renames nevcairiel |
| 17:12.23 | Semlar | i shall call you squishy |
| 17:12.36 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/EoBo3Ug rofl |
| 17:13.25 | Neffi_ | <_< |
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| 17:43.39 | Torhal | A-KO: ? |
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| 18:08.52 | VIad | any addons yet to make it easier to send followers on missions in the most profitable configuration? :p |
| 18:09.08 | fewyn | haven't seen one yet |
| 18:09.50 | fewyn | oh hey world server is down |
| 18:11.09 | Simca | Vlad: we need another ckknight, so he can make Routes_Garrisons |
| 18:11.38 | VIad | seems to be a neat coding challenge |
| 18:11.59 | VIad | level differences, traits, attributes, quests and their setups, math to match the best course of action :3 |
| 18:12.40 | fewyn | would be useful |
| 18:12.53 | fewyn | to know which best set of followers to use on certain missions for best success |
| 18:13.11 | fewyn | i've only got 2 level 100 followers so far |
| 18:16.27 | foxlit | I've got a gameplay question for you: |
| 18:16.34 | foxlit | would such an addon make the game more or less fun? |
| 18:16.57 | fewyn | depends on the person maybe |
| 18:17.09 | fewyn | i think i'd like it more |
| 18:17.18 | fewyn | but i know some people wouldn't like it at all |
| 18:17.31 | foxlit | it's essentially reduncing the follower aspect of the game for "push here for loot" |
| 18:17.37 | foxlit | s/for/to/ |
| 18:18.18 | Fisker | Is it anything else? |
| 18:18.23 | fewyn | ^ |
| 18:19.10 | foxlit | well, there is that thin layer of fiction where you gather your followers, train them, pick missions for them, etc. |
| 18:19.16 | Fisker | It's a binary mechanic, why would I care about the irrelevant puzzle, the puzzle is easy, problem just is the pieces are all scattered in a non-obvious way |
| 18:20.32 | Fisker | So I would very much like an addon that just automatically finds the most optimal setup for all missions |
| 18:20.43 | Fisker | Because it's a silly minigame |
| 18:21.05 | fewyn | it's cool for the first few days |
| 18:21.06 | foxlit | One might say that your dps rotation is a silly minigame. |
| 18:22.06 | Simca | the game is built around combat and not around garrisons, so one might say that |
| 18:22.09 | Simca | but they'd be wrong |
| 18:22.42 | Fisker | one could say that but it wouldn't be true to the extent followers are a silly minigame |
| 18:22.45 | Simca | regardless, blizzard obviously thinks it is okay to automate follower choosing and doesn't think it is okay to automate combat, hence one being secure |
| 18:24.24 | Fisker | And yeah DPS is a silly little minigame, combat isn't though |
| 18:24.29 | Fisker | And that's nice |
| 18:28.33 | foxlit | anyway, I wouldn't underestimate that puzzle. |
| 18:28.43 | Simca | yeah |
| 18:29.01 | foxlit | But I'm up for replacing it with a giant "PRESS HERE FOR LOOT" button and seeing how long things remain as they are. |
| 18:29.36 | Simca | it's kind of hard to stop it. |
| 18:29.49 | Simca | even if it was secure the addon could just show you how to do it |
| 18:29.57 | Simca | and you'd have to drag the followers it specifies over |
| 18:30.03 | Simca | just a few extra clicks |
| 18:30.10 | foxlit | No, Simca, it's easy to block everything. |
| 18:30.27 | foxlit | Throw garrison api into secure capsule, make garrison UI forbidden. |
| 18:30.37 | foxlit | presto: no access to mission or follower data for addons. |
| 18:30.56 | Simca | I seriously doubt they'd go that far |
| 18:31.00 | Simca | and I think you do too |
| 18:32.04 | foxlit | even just capsuling the garrison API, a two-line change, would make life more-than-annoying for addons. |
| 18:32.38 | Simca | as long as the UI elements were readable by insecure code, it could still be done |
| 18:33.07 | Simca | anyway the first hurdle is reverse engineering all of the formulas used for mission calculations |
| 18:33.11 | foxlit | but hey, I'm only objecting to "hard to stop", not "unlikely". |
| 18:33.38 | Simca | how about: hard to stop with reasonable measures |
| 18:33.46 | Simca | is that clarification good enough |
| 18:33.48 | foxlit | no. |
| 18:33.54 | Simca | fine |
| 18:33.56 | foxlit | because "reasonable" is an unreasonable mess. |
| 18:34.10 | Simca | so is "hard" and half of the english language |
| 18:34.36 | foxlit | did they nerf draenor tamers while I wasn't looking? |
| 18:34.52 | foxlit | The last four I've done had rare pets; I could've sworn the first three were legendary. |
| 18:35.34 | Simca | i'll check; i made a list of stats and rarities for every battle pet ID in draenor |
| 18:36.45 | Simca | 5/6 use rare pets, the 6th uses legendary, apparently |
| 18:36.47 | Fisker | underestimates the puzzle |
| 18:37.46 | foxlit | set cover is NP-complete, Fisker. |
| 18:38.44 | Simca | the API function that calculates mission success % requires UI elements to be in place (it wants followers in the slots and the mission screen open). I wonder if it would be faster to do the calculations in the addon or to fake the UI elements being placed (i.e. change just enough to get the function to run) |
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| 18:39.24 | Simca | the advantage of the latter is that the calculations would be in C instead of Lua, and they'd be completely accurate since it was Blizzard's own code |
| 18:40.42 | Maldivia | "completely accurate" |
| 18:41.48 | Cidan | wait |
| 18:41.58 | Cidan | who's to say the calculation even happens client side? |
| 18:42.06 | Cidan | i'd be surprised if it did |
| 18:42.45 | nevcairiel | the actual outcome does not, obviously, but the prediction in % thats shown when you start the mission? you think it would ask the server for that? |
| 18:42.53 | Cidan | hm. |
| 18:43.15 | Cidan | yes, actually, because hotfixes |
| 18:43.42 | Cidan | but who knows |
| 18:43.47 | nevcairiel | they can hotfix client side these days |
| 18:44.05 | Arrowmaster | im so going to miss this when i get a job again, waking up at almost 2pm because i didnt get home till 4am on a tuesday morning |
| 18:44.26 | Cidan | why get a job? |
| 18:44.35 | Cidan | eat, drink, wow, repeat |
| 18:44.40 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: get a job as a bartender :) |
| 18:44.40 | Simca | most calculations that aren't related to combat happen client side |
| 18:44.49 | Simca | this isn't combat, so it's probably client side |
| 18:45.07 | Arrowmaster | Maldivia: but that limits me to only one bar |
| 18:45.23 | Maldivia | hmm... gogo dancer? |
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| 18:50.25 | karl_w_w | 724 mb windows update, but the kb article isn't up yet :( |
| 18:51.32 | Primer | What did everyone here end up making for their second large size plot? |
| 18:51.49 | Cidan | need to hit 100 first, sigh |
| 18:51.59 | Cidan | have i mentioned how much I hate leveling paladin? |
| 18:52.25 | Primer | I ended up leveling my lock to 100 because I could not get on Darkspear due to 6 hour queues |
| 18:52.47 | Cidan | I'm trying to decide if I want to level my hunter, rogue, or lock next |
| 18:52.52 | Cidan | I think rogue, because sneaky sneaky |
| 18:53.00 | Primer | My priest was supposed to be my main |
| 18:53.20 | Primer | Disc is looking really OP |
| 18:53.49 | karl_w_w | after 3 expansions with a mage main im switching to enhance/resto shaman for this one |
| 18:53.59 | Cidan | spits |
| 18:54.02 | Cidan | shaman trash. |
| 18:54.06 | Cidan | forever my enemy |
| 18:54.10 | karl_w_w | you sound mad |
| 18:54.18 | karl_w_w | let me just windfury you a bit |
| 18:54.30 | Cidan | will always hold a special place of hatred in my heart from vanilla for shamans |
| 18:54.44 | karl_w_w | wait i can't, it's not called windfury anymore :( |
| 18:56.01 | karl_w_w | its funny i still feel like a priest sometimes, even though i only mained it in BC and have barely played priest since |
| 18:58.00 | Constie | I was going to switch my main from Priest to Rogue, but I missed Shadowform too much. |
| 18:59.22 | fewyn | hrm how many work order shipments can sit at my garrison? just the max of whatever i can make? |
| 19:01.16 | Primer | I need to get more goddamn resources |
| 19:01.26 | fewyn | you should have gotten a lumber mill |
| 19:01.27 | Primer | I still haven't found a good guide for garissons though |
| 19:01.35 | Primer | I have a level 2 lumber mill |
| 19:01.36 | fewyn | there really isn't a perfect garrison setup really |
| 19:01.41 | Primer | but the tooltip for it is vague |
| 19:01.49 | Leosky | 36/building max |
| 19:01.58 | fewyn | you collect timber then you do work orders |
| 19:02.02 | cawaker | wowhead has great garrison guides |
| 19:02.07 | Primer | It doesn't say that it produces more resources, just that it can take more orders and allows for the harvesting of larger trees |
| 19:02.17 | fewyn | that's all it does Primer |
| 19:02.18 | Primer | unless it produces resources at a faster rate |
| 19:02.31 | Ressy | I'm liking the work orders for the Lumber Mill.. Got 55 Apexis Crystals from it cuz I keep Lumber mill at 19 work orders at all times. |
| 19:02.38 | Primer | a lot of the garrison tooltips are vague, IMO |
| 19:02.49 | fewyn | http://www.wowhead.com/guide=2522/medium-garrison-buildings-gladiators-sanctum-lumber-mill-inn-barn-trading-post#lumber-mill |
| 19:02.59 | fewyn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/15269759060 |
| 19:03.02 | cawaker | also this looks greta http://blog.askmrrobot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Garrisons1.png |
| 19:03.23 | fewyn | 5 days of free game time |
| 19:03.39 | karl_w_w | I don't know what to spend my upgrade books on |
| 19:04.01 | karl_w_w | i still have level 1 lumber mill along with enchanting and inscription buildings |
| 19:04.15 | fewyn | salvage yard is great btw |
| 19:04.18 | karl_w_w | because disenchating and because I'm a scribe |
| 19:04.19 | cawaker | wow 5 days seems like a lot |
| 19:04.21 | fewyn | it's a must have imo |
| 19:04.27 | karl_w_w | yeah, im level 98 |
| 19:04.43 | Primer | I also don't know what to make for my third small plot |
| 19:04.53 | fewyn | salvage yard =p |
| 19:05.05 | karl_w_w | can you change them later? |
| 19:05.07 | fewyn | yes |
| 19:05.09 | cawaker | yes |
| 19:05.11 | Primer | I took my 2 professions, enchanting and tailoring, and the gladiator thing for my other medium |
| 19:05.16 | Primer | since this is a pvp toon |
| 19:05.17 | fewyn | i currently have enchanters study, engineering thingie, and salvage yard |
| 19:05.19 | fewyn | for my smalls |
| 19:05.25 | fewyn | enchanters study is pretty awesome |
| 19:05.30 | cawaker | i did enchating to get rid of all the quest gear i'm swapping out |
| 19:05.32 | Primer | but isn't salvage all about the follower shit? |
| 19:05.35 | fewyn | yes |
| 19:05.40 | fewyn | you can upgrade their gear |
| 19:05.41 | fewyn | etc |
| 19:05.45 | fewyn | with stuff from it |
| 19:06.05 | Primer | so at some point there will be missions to get me gear I can actually use? |
| 19:06.21 | fewyn | yeah that's the level 100 missions |
| 19:06.26 | fewyn | can contain raid gear etc |
| 19:06.31 | fewyn | http://www.wowhead.com/guide=2520/guide-to-small-garrison-buildings#boostedgear-cloth |
| 19:06.37 | Dagmar | Mostly they'll contain follower upgrades |
| 19:06.41 | fewyn | yeah |
| 19:07.03 | Dagmar | Highest player gear I've seen come out of the level 100 follower missions _so far_ is 615 |
| 19:07.13 | Primer | which is crap |
| 19:07.29 | fewyn | you need to do the raid tier to get it to drop higher gear |
| 19:07.31 | Primer | I'm thinking I want to get shit that will sustain my raiding |
| 19:07.31 | fewyn | from missions |
| 19:07.32 | fewyn | iirc |
| 19:07.40 | Primer | like flasks |
| 19:08.42 | Primer | well, and mostly pvp |
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| 19:13.58 | zenzelezz | "Transfer Aborted; instance not found" - yet you still put my hearthstone on CD... |
| 19:13.59 | Primer | I had been leaning towards salvage, but meh... |
| 19:15.17 | karl_w_w | I'm planning to go salvage simply because I don't see much use in any of the others |
| 19:15.51 | Primer | zenzelezz: old |
| 19:16.18 | zenzelezz | Primer: not to me |
| 19:16.35 | Primer | zenzelezz: that was happening on day zero all the time |
| 19:17.40 | zenzelezz | Primer: I have no illusion that it wasn't; I merely stayed away for a few days on launch, and play on a low-ish pop, so I've had no problem until now |
| 19:18.03 | Primer | karl_w_w: I'm just curious about what other things I can get |
| 19:18.17 | Primer | like, doesn't the engineering one provide single use gliders? |
| 19:20.11 | karl_w_w | even if it does, that's of extremely limited usefulness |
| 19:20.27 | Primer | I suppose I can see getting the salvage yard since I'm also an enchanter being good for DEing more shit |
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| 19:31.00 | Cidan | I'm an enchanter + tailor, and all I'm doing is selling everything I get |
| 19:31.10 | Primer | why? |
| 19:31.12 | Cidan | I prolly rake in 1-2k gold a day |
| 19:31.23 | Cidan | because the market is inflated right now, rather make the money than level |
| 19:31.45 | Cidan | once it's saturated, I can buy back what I sold for a fraction of the cost |
| 19:32.02 | Primer | This toon is on a low/medium realm |
| 19:32.12 | Cidan | mine is too |
| 19:32.12 | Primer | I don't see that kind of action happening here |
| 19:32.48 | Cidan | then there are the people that put up mats for like, 4 gold each, when the next highest is like, 16 gold |
| 19:32.55 | Cidan | easy money there |
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| 19:38.07 | VIad | any good tools like mpqedit for extracting the new format? |
| 19:38.15 | VIad | wanna get my hands on the latest dbc files :p |
| 19:38.29 | cawaker | theres a new mpq format? |
| 19:38.43 | cawaker | i wanted to extratc a buncha sounds also but i hadnt started yet |
| 19:47.51 | Maldivia | there isn't a new mpq format ... there is casc now instead though |
| 19:49.13 | cawaker | ahh gotcha |
| 19:54.31 | VIad | any casctool.exe around? |
| 19:54.44 | VIad | these lua libraries are nice but require linux installation to work :p |
| 19:55.01 | cawaker | which lua libraries? |
| 19:56.21 | cawaker | this might be what you are looking for https://github.com/WoW-Tools/CASCExplorer |
| 19:56.28 | cawaker | havent used it though |
| 19:57.06 | Thunder_Child | iirc there are 3 main casce tools |
| 19:57.15 | VIad | h nice |
| 19:57.17 | Thunder_Child | casc* |
| 19:57.22 | VIad | tomrus88 :) |
| 19:57.25 | VIad | hacker russian guy |
| 19:58.05 | cawaker | this looks like a library to build an app around https://github.com/ladislav-zezula/CascLib |
| 19:58.46 | Thunder_Child | ~casc |
| 19:58.50 | Thunder_Child | or not. |
| 19:59.55 | Thunder_Child | http://www.townlong-yak.com/casc/ |
| 20:01.55 | cawaker | actaully that might be a fun project to learn LUA |
| 20:02.14 | Thunder_Child | And if anything breaks you can bitch at foxlit directly. |
| 20:02.24 | cawaker | lol |
| 20:03.53 | Simca | out of the three main CASC tools, ladik's is the least useful. |
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| 20:04.14 | cawaker | http://www.zezula.net/en/casc/main.html this looks the most user fiendly |
| 20:05.13 | Simca | though I guess he has updated CascLib a lot recently |
| 20:05.17 | Simca | it might have gotten better |
| 20:15.33 | jleclanche | the lib is more useful than the tool yeah |
| 20:16.55 | Alram | Tom's lib is also pretty good |
| 20:17.15 | Alram | https://github.com/WoW-Tools/CASCExplorer/tree/cli/CascLib that one |
| 20:18.28 | Simca | it's great that they're both called casclib with the exact same spelling and capitalization |
| 20:18.36 | Simca | because nobody will ever get them confused |
| 20:19.01 | Alram | thats what you get when two different people have no idea of eachother projects until its too late :D |
| 20:23.25 | fewyn | get 100 enormous fish for the achieves is actually alot easier than i expected |
| 20:23.30 | fewyn | s/get/getting |
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| 20:42.36 | Dagmar | Weather in Nashville, TN: Fuckin' cold! |
| 20:43.10 | Dagmar | I just made the foolish mistake of trying to walk the fifteen feet of breezeway to the mailbox barefoot |
| 20:43.31 | Dagmar | I now know the worst thing barefoot is not hot sand. |
| 20:43.43 | Neffi_ | chuckles |
| 20:55.16 | foxlit | I could do with some naming advice. I want a macro conditional to differentiate based on currently-active garrison abilities. |
| 20:55.35 | foxlit | I'm thinking of [outpost:garrison/arena/mill/inn/trading post/mage tower/armory/stables/bunker] |
| 20:56.13 | foxlit | trading post and mage tower seem somewhat clunky; I'm also not sure if bunker is an accurate name for the Nagrand thing that isn't stables. |
| 21:01.05 | foxlit | apparently stables is Corral, and bunker is Tankworks. |
| 21:01.34 | Simca | you could call mage tower "sanctum" - it' |
| 21:02.01 | Simca | it's a pretty accurate shorthand in the warcraft lore, but may not be overly obvious to people, not sure |
| 21:02.40 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: checks out... http://thefuckingweather.com/?where=nashville%2c+tn |
| 21:02.42 | Simca | i think the trading post is called smuggler's den too in the outpost version |
| 21:03.12 | foxlit | there really should be a summary of those outpost choices somewhere |
| 21:03.21 | Simca | http://www.tentonhammer.com/guides/world-warcraft/garrison-outpost-guide-picking-best-outposts apparently |
| 21:03.41 | Simca | and apparently it is called "arcane sanctum", so there you go |
| 21:04.02 | VIad | I picked tank - purely based on descriptions |
| 21:04.15 | VIad | found later out it was the most shit faced choice ever and the description sucks balls |
| 21:04.20 | Simca | yeah... |
| 21:04.25 | VIad | the wolf/talbuk scales insanely well with level |
| 21:04.39 | Simca | the mount is definitely ridiculous |
| 21:04.45 | Simca | makes me wish the entire game took place in nagrand |
| 21:05.13 | Simca | mounting while doing archaeology is so much better than having to remount after half the surveys |
| 21:05.31 | cawaker | which outpost allows that? |
| 21:05.41 | Simca | Corral in nagrand |
| 21:05.54 | cawaker | gotcha |
| 21:05.55 | VIad | you can change |
| 21:05.58 | VIad | for 10000 gold |
| 21:05.59 | VIad | ffs |
| 21:07.09 | xyphoid_ | the stable has been amazing too, herbing/timbering/quest item'ing while mounted through the rest of draenor |
| 21:07.15 | foxlit | so [outpost:garrison/arena/{lumber yard/mill/lm/ly}/brewery/{smuggling run/run}/sanctum/arsenal/corral/tankworks] |
| 21:07.37 | xyphoid_ | also i wish i'd found '/use garrison ability' before making six different macros |
| 21:08.25 | cawaker | lol |
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| 21:18.23 | mikma | https://narf-archive.com/pix/1171df256e6893778c6796b4031898af88d042bd.jpeg |
| 21:51.52 | foxlit | note to self: don't log out in garrison. |
| 21:52.35 | foxlit | rather than dumping you into the outside zone, it doesn't let you log in. |
| 21:54.05 | Simca | yeah if there are no instance servers available, your login is out of luck |
| 21:54.22 | Simca | on the other hand, if the world server is down and you logged out in your garrison, you're the only one who is in luck |
| 21:55.06 | Simca | well, you and half the population of that zone, since garrisons are mildly popular |
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| 22:19.06 | foxlit | heh, you can't check which of your glyphs are currently socketed. |
| 22:19.35 | foxlit | socket info returns spell ids, glyph list returns glyph ids; there's no in-game mapping between the two. |
| 22:20.49 | xyphoid_ | is that gonna be another case of shipping a big mapping table in your addon |
| 22:24.16 | foxlit | okay, no, I'm silly, and documentation is a lie. |
| 22:26.46 | foxlit | sockets do return glyph ids, so this is just a matter of constructing and maintaining a big mapping table in-game. |
| 22:27.19 | Ivnedar | automating the garrison puzzle would be interesting, you'd set up the ideal follower combinations, send them off, then 5 mins later a better mission is there that needs followers you just sent out |
| 22:32.19 | Ssateneth | yes, addon to have the optimum followers would be amazing |
| 22:32.33 | Ssateneth | need best coverage of counters and group buffs |
| 22:32.54 | Ivnedar | I haven't played with rerolling traits yet |
| 22:33.07 | Ivnedar | I can see that giving me worse traits :D |
| 22:33.37 | Constie | I'd be happy with just a thing that shows how many active followers you have with each ability and trait. |
| 22:34.24 | xyphoid_ | do we know how often new missions show up yet |
| 22:35.39 | Simca | no, but we know cooldowns for the missions |
| 22:39.56 | Ssateneth | are there any addons out there for followers / missions at all? |
| 22:40.19 | Ssateneth | gotta get em leveled up fast so i can send them off to raids |
| 22:40.51 | Constie | There is this thing, which doesn't work super well yet: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1606851-POC-WIP-Compact-Garrison-Mission-UI |
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| 22:58.26 | Darkchaos | Hello Guys. Is there a way to have StartAuction work without a hardware event but from inside Protected Code? |
| 22:58.54 | foxlit | this week on APIs I don't like: glyphs >> http://pastebin.com/Sp9vj51Z |
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| 23:00.25 | Simca | depends, Darkchaos |
| 23:00.41 | Darkchaos | Simca: On what does it depend? |
| 23:01.16 | Simca | if you used a hardware event to fire the protected code (i.e. a secure button), it would work |
| 23:02.03 | foxlit | whereas it should look something like http://pastebin.com/p76m2zJM |
| 23:02.30 | Darkchaos | Simca: And if not? is there no way to override like "hey, I am protected, I am allowed?" |
| 23:03.33 | Simca | you won't even have access to StartAuction inside protected code that isn't triggered by a hardware event, i think |
| 23:03.52 | Simca | because macrotext would be the only place you can interact with insecure elements |
| 23:04.02 | Simca | and that's only triggered by a hardware event |
| 23:04.15 | Darkchaos | well I have, but It gets shut down by blizz obviously |
| 23:05.20 | Simca | ah, so you're saying "in theory if i had the ability to execute secure code on a whim, would interacting with an insecure function that requires a hardware event still require a hardware event"? |
| 23:05.43 | Ssateneth | use hax :p |
| 23:06.00 | Ssateneth | say 'fuck the system, i do what i want' |
| 23:06.15 | Darkchaos | Simca: So there is a secure equivalent to StartAuction? |
| 23:07.12 | Simca | you could try using securecall() |
| 23:07.40 | Simca | or forceinsecure() |
| 23:08.02 | Simca | both can only be run from blizzard code so I doubt anyone has a ton of experience with them |
| 23:08.15 | Darkchaos | okay, I'll dig into that |
| 23:09.20 | Simca | since they're blizzard-only, i'd imagine they would ignore all restrictions like hardware events, since players could never run them |
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| 23:19.06 | Darkchaos | Okay, securecall() does not work. What is does is reverting to secure after the insecure code has been called.. damn, i think i ran into a wall there |
| 23:19.49 | foxlit | in what possible universe can you run arbitrary code securely but are foiled by a hardware event check? |
| 23:20.03 | Simca | lol |
| 23:20.23 | Darkchaos | foxlit: not in the legit one^^ |
| 23:20.48 | Darkchaos | I could remove the hardware check as well but I wanted to keep it easy =( |
| 23:21.00 | Simca | heck, use your secure code to make a secure button |
| 23:21.10 | Simca | and set the macrotext to /run StartAuction() |
| 23:21.17 | Simca | and then click it. |
| 23:21.37 | Simca | if your code is at the blizzard level of security, that probably counts. |
| 23:25.25 | Darkchaos | My Macro is Clicking some TSM Buttons, so I should rather use type="click" and clickbutton="button..." instead of having an extra macro? |
| 23:25.41 | Simca | yeah |
| 23:26.23 | Simca | I wonder what the code behind "/click" is. I don't think there is a lua function equivalent |
| 23:28.23 | Darkchaos | I think it's button:Click(button) |
| 23:33.20 | Simca | in some cases, yes, i think /click is more |
| 23:34.24 | Darkchaos | Well I don't know why, but having it call the secureButton leads to nothing. No Error in BugSack, No Protection Notice, but no execution as well^^ |
| 23:35.29 | Ressy | must not strangle best friend..... >.< |
| 23:36.10 | foxlit | plenty of best friends in the sea, Ressy. |
| 23:36.27 | Cidan | does anyone know if blizzard fixed that exploit/bug? |
| 23:37.06 | Cidan | that lets you run unsecure code on secure elements? |
| 23:37.16 | Simca | the C_Timer bug? |
| 23:37.19 | Cidan | ya |
| 23:37.21 | Simca | yeah |
| 23:37.28 | Simca | it's fixed |
| 23:37.35 | Cidan | ah okie |
| 23:38.16 | Ressy | foxlit: shes driving me nuts with the whole "I don't know why blizzard changed this." |
| 23:38.29 | Ivnedar | "Because they can" |
| 23:39.02 | Ressy | she's talking about how she tossed multiple addons into the /altoholic/ folder in the addons folder, and 'it'd work' |
| 23:39.05 | Ressy | bulllll |
| 23:39.35 | Ivnedar | lol |
| 23:40.12 | Ressy | arguing for 30 minutes.. |
| 23:40.12 | foxlit | tinypic are such scum :/ |
| 23:40.23 | Ressy | then finally its not longer a big deal. |
| 23:40.28 | Ivnedar | delete wow install, give reason of doing everyone a favour :) |
| 23:40.46 | foxlit | http://i.imgur.com/Ht93Vaa.jpg << this is a masque skin, right? |
| 23:42.26 | Simca | it is possible that it used to load addons stacked inside addons, but i can see why they wouldn't have kept that functionality, lol |
| 23:42.45 | Ressy | it never did |
| 23:42.50 | Ressy | its 100% user error |
| 23:42.57 | Ressy | and said user doesn't want to acknowledge their error |
| 23:44.13 | Thunder_Child | And that's your best friend? |
| 23:44.32 | Ressy | was in college |
| 23:44.42 | Ressy | But shes a mac user.. |
| 23:44.49 | Ressy | :P |
| 23:44.55 | Thunder_Child | Don't let Iriel hear you say it like that. |
| 23:45.00 | Ressy | LOL |
| 23:45.14 | Ressy | He's a nice guy.. Met him at blizzcon. :) |
| 23:45.20 | Thunder_Child | Yes, yes he is. |
| 23:45.27 | Thunder_Child | For a mac user. |
| 23:45.32 | Ressy | snickers |
| 23:45.37 | Ressy | same with Kaelten |
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| 23:48.07 | Simca | Kaelten is a mac user? |
| 23:48.49 | Thunder_Child | He seemed so normal.... |
| 23:48.53 | Ivnedar | Wouldn't have picked it, seems so sane |
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