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| 01:24.18 | MiRai | http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/2miimf/rwow_was_just_shut_down_by_unitesmoke_all/ |
| 01:24.28 | MiRai | =\ |
| 01:25.43 | Dagmar | Tantrum queens |
| 01:26.04 | Dagmar | They really should start screening subreddit moderators for emotional stability |
| 01:26.27 | MiRai | heh |
| 01:29.25 | Dagmar | Seriously, tho. Privating the subreddit because _the sevrers are overloaded_? WHat kind of juvenile shit is that |
| 01:29.30 | MiRai | and - http://np.reddit.com/r/redditrequest/comments/2miiuj/rwow_i_would_like_to_request_this_iama_former/ |
| 01:29.53 | Dagmar | ...and getting bent because his dating profile was posted? The proper answer to that is, "So... if any of you ladies are traveling to my city soon..." |
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| 01:44.36 | Ressy | wow.. |
| 01:44.39 | Amarande | Dagmar: maybe he has too much baggage, though :P |
| 01:45.09 | Amarande | heh. I can only imagine if that was in his box and the woman was geeky, he'd probably get eliminated in the dealbreaker round |
| 01:51.53 | Amarande | *blink* where'd this "if you vote or comment on a linked thread you will be banned" some from? |
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| 01:51.57 | Amarande | I've never seen that one on reddit before |
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| 01:58.21 | MiRai | I don't reddit all that much, but it has something to do with the np.URL -- Something about 'no participation' /shrug |
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| 02:08.05 | Dagmar | Amarande: "Baggage"? Dude, shutting down a sub because _you can't login to the game_ is the sort of shit I'd expect from a seven-year-old throwing a tantrum. No joke. |
| 02:09.59 | Amarande | Not to mention fragmentory. I wonder how many people have tried to create a new WoW-based subreddit after this ... though it's probably too soon just yet |
| 02:11.01 | Amarande | also, that's assuming reddit works that way |
| 02:11.20 | Amarande | I only ever read there every now and then, so I don't know about particulars like when people try to create multiple subreddits on the same topic |
| 02:11.50 | Dagmar | They'll probably wind up wherever the other _not-insane_ moderators decide collectively to go. |
| 02:11.56 | Amarande | though, the way some of these comments look, it's not clear that reddit management really controls the site much at all |
| 02:12.18 | Dagmar | They have a serious hands-off policy. |
| 02:12.30 | Amarande | nor whether they even *can* ... IANAL, but I'm pretty sure that once you start exercising editorial control over content, you get a whole slew of responsibilities that you don't have if you don't |
| 02:12.35 | Dagmar | If you manage to get a sub created, it's now all entirely your problem. |
| 02:12.44 | Dagmar | Yeah. |
| 02:12.46 | Amarande | and there's probably so many toxic subreddits now that they'd be in deep doo for missing just one of |
| 02:12.57 | Dagmar | If they weren't completely lassez-faire about it, it would mean massive headaches for them |
| 02:13.01 | Amarande | from what I gather, it's practically like USENET of old, LOL |
| 02:14.23 | Amarande | of course, *that* only works because it's owned by a media megaconglomerate |
| 02:14.38 | Amarande | don't try this at home kids, ask Kim Dotcom how well that works out :) |
| 02:14.42 | Dagmar | Well, they are that _now_. |
| 02:14.59 | Dagmar | It started as the work of a bunch of screwballs. |
| 02:17.23 | fewyn | the subreddit drama is so great |
| 02:23.54 | Iriel | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.30 | Mr_Rabies | hmm, i wish the bonuses to having a follower attached to a building were more apparent |
| 02:25.41 | Mr_Rabies | i really don't know what i'm getting out of having fiona on my herb garden |
| 02:25.56 | Dagmar | An extra product about half the time. |
| 02:25.58 | Dagmar | It isn't much. |
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| 02:27.13 | Mr_Rabies | wonder if i could have her run a mission, then reattach her before the work order is finished |
| 02:27.33 | Mr_Rabies | some garrison things are kind of vague and nebulous |
| 02:27.47 | Dagmar | Well, at least they toned down the invasion thing. |
| 02:27.54 | Mr_Rabies | i wasn't really seeing what i was getting out of the barracks so i switched to stables |
| 02:28.08 | Dagmar | At the level it first appeared I saw the NPC and said... "Oh hell no! You won't trick me like that again!" |
| 02:28.20 | Amarande | yeah, the garrison benefits are probably going to be pretty meh, I'm presuming |
| 02:28.34 | Amarande | the whole thing basically just says "player housing" to me really :S |
| 02:28.38 | Dagmar | I've been telling my guildmates if they don't have the right crafting person they need to go ahead and make the level 2 Inn |
| 02:28.51 | Amarande | which is probably how it's going to mainly end up in the long run, I s'pose |
| 02:28.57 | Dagmar | You can get your specific follower and then ditch it |
| 02:29.30 | Dagmar | Some of the NPCs that show up for the quests are funny tho. I was like, "What is Moroes doing here and does he remember what I did to him last week?" |
| 02:29.44 | Dagmar | I think he died *while* he was stealthed |
| 02:30.38 | Amarande | that's weird. damage is supposed to break stealth |
| 02:30.40 | Amarande | unless it was a one-shot |
| 02:30.46 | Dagmar | Very likely |
| 02:30.52 | Amarande | and if people are one-shotting things in Draenor already, that might be a balance issue :) |
| 02:30.52 | Dagmar | I just assumed he couldn't be hit then |
| 02:31.03 | Dagmar | Moroes is from Kara |
| 02:31.10 | Dagmar | I was in there seeing if anyone had any pets. |
| 02:31.19 | Amarande | yeah, I remember Moroes being from Kara |
| 02:31.21 | Dagmar | He disappeared and I started waiting for him to hit me... and it never came. |
| 02:31.29 | Amarande | I'm trying to remember what was special about him ... I recall he dropped something of note, trying to remember what |
| 02:31.30 | Amarande | crafting recipe? |
| 02:31.35 | Dagmar | I look around a bit and there he is, dead. |
| 02:31.37 | Amarande | think it was at least one crafting recipe |
| 02:32.05 | Amarande | most weeks I only bothered with Attumen anyways |
| 02:32.54 | Amarande | 'specially since I can't really do a full clear solo anyway in Kara, and unless I want something for mog I don't think there's anything Kiruna can use there anymore, and she's the only character I'm currently confident about trying to solo Kara with |
| 02:33.16 | Amarande | let's put it this way, Microsoft Hearts cheats less than Medivh :P |
| 02:33.29 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 02:33.43 | Dagmar | Yeah it took me five tries to get through freakin' Chess |
| 02:34.00 | Dagmar | I was hoping it would glitch like the Argent Tournament sometimes does |
| 02:34.12 | Dagmar | ...when I just give up on the mount and murder everyone. |
| 02:34.35 | Amarande | actually hmm, there might be an engi recipe in kara |
| 02:34.39 | Amarande | oh wait, I think Attumen drops that, too |
| 02:35.09 | Amarande | so yeah, not that much reason to go further in |
| 02:35.20 | Amarande | especially since I ALWAYS seem to get friggin Little Red Riding Hood in the theatre bit |
| 02:35.26 | Dagmar | Well, I figure if I'm _there_ I might as well kill everyone. |
| 02:35.49 | Amarande | oh hi there! We *know* you just *love* to have your level 90 Pandarian geared mage doing FOUR DIGIT DPS over a fight's duration! |
| 02:35.51 | Dagmar | Also, since I've always been DPS, I really have no idea which way I'm _supposed_ to go. I just keep slaughtering until I stop seeing things moving about. |
| 02:36.35 | Amarande | I've seen Mega Man bosses that give you more attack opportunity time than the blasted Big Bad Wolf |
| 02:37.02 | Dagmar | Another reason to be happy about BM spec |
| 02:37.30 | Amarande | Dagmar: you just get to worry about all the various bosses that have MC |
| 02:37.30 | Dagmar | ..and traps. |
| 02:37.47 | Dagmar | Not really. The first time that happens I start dropping ice traps at my feet. |
| 02:37.48 | Amarande | which are no problem if you're a non-pet soloer, but your pet makes you eligible for mind control & reset fun :) |
| 02:39.54 | Amarande | ah, self-iceblock, well played |
| 02:40.07 | Amarande | wonder how warlocks and frost mages deal with it though :( |
| 02:40.28 | Amarande | though it seems from the 6.0.2 patch notes that Blizzard decided to kick warlocks to the bottom of the totem pole again *sigh* |
| 02:40.34 | Ivnedar | I do get sad when I get blocked from soloing a boss due to a mechanic like that |
| 02:40.39 | Amarande | oh well, this is why I play an arcanist in FFXIV :) |
| 02:40.54 | Amarande | all the fun of warlock, none of the pain |
| 02:41.07 | Ivnedar | I'm attempting to solo frostmourne putricide, have to get into the abom suit and hit boss before he notices I've switched units |
| 02:42.00 | Amarande | Dagmar: also, another reason why the tank shouldn't always be party leader |
| 02:42.17 | Amarande | I'm pretty convinced the expectation that tank = leader is a pretty destructive one |
| 02:42.31 | Dagmar | Ours is usually the healer. |
| 02:42.41 | Dagmar | ...because he's the sober one. ;) |
| 02:42.59 | Amarande | for one, in a raid setting, the tank really shouldn't be the RL. better the RL be a DPS, preferably a pure one (as opposed to one with frequent CC responsibilities or the like) |
| 02:43.02 | Mr_Rabies | is it bad that because i don't use the random pets feature |
| 02:43.11 | Mr_Rabies | i set all my favorite pets to mechanicals |
| 02:43.13 | Amarande | for two, I get the feeling that that expectation is one of the reasons there aren't so many tanks |
| 02:43.21 | Mr_Rabies | so i have a self-driving motorcycle eating hay in my stables |
| 02:43.24 | Dagmar | I was the leader for Kara once, and we were like, "When did they add bats? I don't remember bats before..." |
| 02:43.26 | Mr_Rabies | on purpose? |
| 02:43.37 | Amarande | I actually don't mind the tanking role in terms of its mechanics per se, it's actually pretty fun to be the brick wall for once |
| 02:43.49 | Amarande | but ... I don't really feel like having to be the leader every time |
| 02:44.02 | Amarande | and most groups are going to expect me to lead if I tank |
| 02:44.18 | Amarande | (and the ones that don't are probably ones I don't want to be in ... because that usually means you've got bads for DPS that like to pull everything and sundry without warning ... LOL) |
| 02:45.07 | Amarande | especially since, on top of that to add to things that will make people expect me to lead, I actually pay attention |
| 02:45.25 | Mr_Rabies | generally speaking it's better to be familiar with a dungeon before attempting to tank it, but it's not required by any means |
| 02:45.35 | Mr_Rabies | expect flak from randoms, but that's what guilds are for this early on |
| 02:45.52 | Amarande | I remember when I was leveling my hunter through vanilla and BC back in the day, I pulled off some epic saves ... basically was not just not the hunter stereotype but the total opposite :) |
| 02:46.20 | Amarande | let's see ... couple times in BC dungeons where I saved the bacon by being able to bring out my Warp Stalker because the tank was as suitable as a Coke can at a monster truck rally |
| 02:46.42 | Amarande | and that time in LBRS where I basically soloed practically an entire room, while still in the low 60s, and not even having a tenacity pet |
| 02:47.00 | Amarande | only thing I can think of is either I'm that great or the heirloom bow is that OP or both |
| 02:47.21 | Amarande | (please tell me it wasn't just the bow. :D) |
| 02:48.30 | Mr_Rabies | i was in a group in old hillsbrad where a hunter was doing like 10k dps last week |
| 02:48.31 | Mr_Rabies | that was nuts |
| 02:48.39 | Mr_Rabies | my guess is that he got the "old dungeons" bonus |
| 02:48.44 | Amarande | that one happened because we went down to the lower troll level and then a couple party members got hit with good old "fear into the whole crowd" |
| 02:48.47 | Mr_Rabies | he did like 90% of the group's dps |
| 02:49.00 | Amarande | think the only person who survived besides me was a pally, who was oom and ran off to the side |
| 02:49.13 | Amarande | but yeah, the other 3 people went down pretty fast, I had to solo almost the whole room |
| 02:49.13 | Dagmar | Barrage really gets the blood flowing. |
| 02:49.25 | Mr_Rabies | haha |
| 02:49.32 | Mr_Rabies | our hunter decided to try barrage last week |
| 02:49.34 | Mr_Rabies | for the first time |
| 02:49.38 | Dagmar | LOL |
| 02:49.39 | Mr_Rabies | in SoO, right before shamans |
| 02:49.41 | Mr_Rabies | that was fun |
| 02:49.43 | Dagmar | "You are not prepared!" |
| 02:49.56 | Amarande | and do it carefully ... juggling threat between me and my spider so neither of us got hit enough to die |
| 02:49.57 | Mr_Rabies | we cleared the trash in record time i think |
| 02:50.01 | Dagmar | It's a great tool... _once you're prepared for what it does_ |
| 02:50.08 | Mr_Rabies | he was just like HOLY SHIT WHAT IS THE RANGE ON THIS |
| 02:50.12 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: was the hunter 68, by any chance? |
| 02:50.16 | Mr_Rabies | like, 71 |
| 02:50.21 | Amarande | ah |
| 02:50.24 | Dagmar | Most people learn to use it with caution the first time they use it outside |
| 02:50.30 | Amarande | I'm guessing heirloom bow with the Wrath DPS jump was part of it, then |
| 02:50.36 | Dagmar | 'cuz it pulls bloody _everything_ you can see |
| 02:50.41 | Mr_Rabies | yeah but 10k is like |
| 02:50.56 | Mr_Rabies | what 550ish dps were doing on some fights in SoO |
| 02:51.00 | Amarande | yeah, that's like ICC+ levels of DPS |
| 02:51.04 | Dagmar | I tend to use it and spin around |
| 02:51.12 | Amarande | pre-squish, that is |
| 02:51.20 | Mr_Rabies | i'm talking post squish |
| 02:51.22 | Mr_Rabies | doing 10k dps |
| 02:51.28 | Mr_Rabies | in a lv64 dungeon |
| 02:51.36 | Amarande | and high for that ... I remember Vladoka got 20k+ a time or two |
| 02:51.43 | Amarande | but that was AoEing the whelps pre Sindragosa |
| 02:52.01 | Amarande | heh. was technically DPS, but for those fights I was tank by default |
| 02:52.41 | Amarande | because there is no out threating Howling Blast spam there |
| 02:52.55 | Amarande | but it gets the job done pretty danged efficiently :) |
| 02:53.34 | Amarande | I haven't experienced post-squish Azeroth yet |
| 03:07.34 | Cidan | oh my god |
| 03:07.59 | Cidan | Pleasure-Bot 8000 just told me his objective is to massage my enemies... to death. |
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| 03:08.06 | Cidan | Accept him as a follower? fuck yes. |
| 03:08.14 | Mr_Rabies | guys help i'm getting quests from bird megatron |
| 03:08.15 | Mr_Rabies | help |
| 03:08.20 | Mr_Rabies | i can't deal |
| 03:08.23 | Mr_Rabies | he's megatron but a bird |
| 03:08.36 | Ivnedar | are you playing angry birds transformers again? |
| 03:08.43 | Mr_Rabies | (reshad is frank welker) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S22mCEz4Wk |
| 03:08.43 | Ivnedar | no wait, megatron would be a hog then |
| 03:08.50 | Mr_Rabies | and he's doing his megatron voice |
| 03:08.55 | Mr_Rabies | with bird squawks |
| 03:09.03 | Mr_Rabies | it's BREAKING MY BRAIN |
| 03:09.09 | Cidan | oh god I hate that guy |
| 03:09.25 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think i could ever hate anything voiced by frank welker |
| 03:09.42 | Amarande | Cidan: don't forget to wear the gnomish x-ray sight goggles while Pleasure-Bot is working its stuff |
| 03:09.56 | Cidan | ... |
| 03:09.57 | Mr_Rabies | another example is elegon |
| 03:10.13 | Mr_Rabies | also frank welker doing his megatron voice, basically |
| 03:10.19 | Mr_Rabies | just slowed down and downpitched |
| 03:10.46 | Mr_Rabies | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejpC1GZIkjY |
| 03:11.29 | Mr_Rabies | you can hear it in "FEEL THE WRATH OF THE TITANS!" |
| 03:11.35 | Mr_Rabies | that's like 100% megatron |
| 03:11.44 | Amarande | Cidan: yes, those are actually a thing |
| 03:12.22 | Amarande | http://www.wowhead.com/item=40895 |
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| 03:31.20 | Mr_Rabies | oh neat the subreddit's closed again |
| 03:31.34 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.reddit.com/r/wow |
| 03:32.33 | tz | yeah how cool is it |
| 03:32.42 | tz | shakes his head in wonderment |
| 03:44.16 | Cidan | The World of Warcraft subreddit has been shut down due to doxxing. |
| 03:45.29 | Constie | Oh Reddit. |
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| 04:00.00 | znf | Anyone has any idea where/if you can farm rep with the bird-people? |
| 04:01.10 | xyphoid_ | allegedly by killing level 100 mobs in spires |
| 04:01.43 | xyphoid_ | haven't tried it myself though |
| 04:18.24 | kd3 | yah, you get 5 rep/mob killing the mobs in lost veil anzu (southeast, next to the southern shore of smv |
| 04:18.41 | kullervo | I wonder why my global macros-cache gets deleted constantly |
| 04:25.15 | Thunder_Child | Because you sin. |
| 04:26.45 | Thunder_Child | I really need to pay attention to steams patch notes. Looks like you can nulti-categorize games now. |
| 04:28.13 | Thunder_Child | And multi-select. |
| 04:28.28 | Amarande | all the better to get you to buy more games you never get around to playing :D |
| 04:28.53 | Amarande | heh. what % of games that we buy on Steam and GoG, do we actually get around to playing and finishing? :) |
| 04:29.03 | Amarande | it's gotta be pretty abysmal |
| 04:29.14 | Ivnedar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:29.17 | Amarande | especially with how many games we tend to end up getting sucked into buying with all the sales |
| 04:29.24 | Amarande | and how much game time we spend playing MMOs instead of them |
| 04:30.14 | Constie | https://steamdb.info/ tells me 34% of my games are unplayed. |
| 04:31.31 | znf | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=170630 |
| 04:31.31 | znf | vs |
| 04:31.36 | znf | www.wowhead.com/item=118460 |
| 04:31.39 | Ressy | surprisingly, reddit did step in. |
| 04:31.41 | znf | what's the difference? |
| 04:32.13 | znf | or, rather, where can you get the cheap one? :D |
| 04:32.56 | Thunder_Child | I have 58% unplayed. |
| 04:35.27 | Amarande | 78% unplayed. woh. :| |
| 04:35.44 | Amarande | although, Steam gets wonky with some things like that |
| 04:35.58 | Xuerian | Ressy: Yeah, I am surprised by that it's a pretty decent breach of protocol, even if the situation sucked.. |
| 04:36.38 | Amarande | like, say, Dragon Age and its expansion are considered separate games, but you play them both through the "Dragon Age: Origins" entry generally |
| 04:36.53 | Ivnedar | though, if it's true that nitesmoke removed themselves as a mod after booting everyone else, then reddit rules allow them to reassign it |
| 04:37.07 | Amarande | also, some of the id games I have, I can't seem to get to work nicely the way they have it set up in Steam |
| 04:37.20 | Amarande | so I just take the IWADs and put them in my fave Doom engine's directory |
| 04:37.29 | Amarande | but then they don't count as played in steam heh |
| 04:37.32 | Ivnedar | aphoenix went through the proper process of getting an abandoned subreddit reassigned, admins could act on that without breaking any of their own rules |
| 04:38.41 | znf | Ha! |
| 04:38.47 | Amarande | also I could be sure some of these stats are wrong |
| 04:38.51 | znf | It's actually worth having high level fishing now! |
| 04:38.59 | znf | (and all the enchants and baits) |
| 04:39.00 | Amarande | I don't play CS much, but I'm pretty damn sure I've played it for more than two minutes :) |
| 04:39.09 | Amarande | hell, one ROUND is more than two minuts |
| 04:39.13 | Amarande | *minutes |
| 04:39.41 | Amarande | znf: well, fishing kind of gets out of control before long in terms of required fishing bonuses to not get junk all the time |
| 04:39.47 | Thunder_Child | All of my CS time (which is extensive) was before steam iirc. |
| 04:39.52 | znf | Amarande, I have no idea what you meant by that. |
| 04:40.19 | Amarande | znf: I mean, you only get 75 more natural points of fishing every expansion pack |
| 04:40.27 | znf | no, we got 100 now. |
| 04:40.31 | Amarande | but the most severe no-junk requirement goes up by something like 100-150 compared to last time |
| 04:40.35 | znf | 600 -> 700 |
| 04:41.05 | Amarande | and meanwhile, the bonuses barely ever increase, I presume because they don't want to make that arcanite fishing pole lose its status |
| 04:41.15 | znf | actually they did increase... |
| 04:41.21 | znf | there's a +200 bait... |
| 04:41.33 | Amarande | huh. fishing is about the only thing I haven't looked at in 6.0's notes |
| 04:41.39 | znf | they increased the bonus last year, too, with the fishing hat... |
| 04:41.43 | Ivnedar | I was trolling people in general who kept linking thunderfury and their fishing rods by linking the legendary fishing rod :) |
| 04:41.49 | Ivnedar | +1000 fishing on that pole |
| 04:41.56 | Amarande | ah, a new bait |
| 04:42.08 | znf | so, now, if you have 950 fishing skill, you get 100% enourmous fish |
| 04:42.21 | Amarande | but I mean, in terms of maximal bonuses, they seem to be very adamant about never letting there be a pole that gives same or better than the arcanite |
| 04:42.29 | Amarande | presumably so you will always have to win the tournament to max it |
| 04:43.31 | Amarande | where other things improve, the fishing bonus every expansion on rare poles seems to always stay 30 |
| 04:43.37 | Amarande | except ... huh, that's weird |
| 04:44.01 | Ivnedar | oh cool, there's a new fishing rod that's better than the arcanite |
| 04:44.07 | Ivnedar | but, it has a 1 day /played duration |
| 04:44.21 | Amarande | Ephemeral Fishing Pole ... lasts only a day, random loot from fishing, and yeah, +100 |
| 04:45.06 | znf | So that's why I fished a pole earlier :P |
| 04:45.23 | Ivnedar | lol, the tentacled hat is great |
| 04:45.32 | Amarande | hm, interesting. is that pole really biased towards alliance or do horde wowhead contributors not fish as much? |
| 04:45.38 | Ivnedar | +100, 7 days realtime duration |
| 04:45.52 | Amarande | looks like most of the places the pole is fished up from are in smv, with a few in spires of arak |
| 04:46.33 | Amarande | but at this point that could be because horde aren't spending (hardcores would say "wasting" I bet) time fishing in their starting zone, they're busy racing to the top for raid glory |
| 04:47.27 | Ivnedar | Yeah, it's probably fished up anywhere in the world, but the highest concentration of people fishing are probably alliance in starting zone |
| 04:47.34 | znf | durations are gay:( |
| 04:48.05 | Ivnedar | it's one way that they can exceed previous limits they set for themselves, keep people doing the activity without ever "winning" |
| 04:49.47 | Amarande | also fishing is kind of a sensitive topic among hardcore players, while it's a relaxing thing to do as a casual who's just sittin' on the dock on the bay |
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| 04:50.05 | znf | Hmm |
| 04:50.09 | znf | so, 700 basic skill |
| 04:50.11 | Amarande | it's a sensitive topic because a lot of people heavily dislike the design of the fishing achievement system |
| 04:50.21 | znf | +34 my fishing pole |
| 04:50.35 | znf | +200 lure |
| 04:50.38 | Amarande | namely, the fact that Salty is the ONLY title, excepting super epic raid based stuff, that's STRICTLY limited in terms of number of players |
| 04:50.47 | Amarande | like, no matter how good you are |
| 04:50.50 | znf | almost 950 |
| 04:51.10 | Amarande | also, it's the only title that requires very specific day/time availability to play, even the super epic raid based stuff hasn't got that issue :) |
| 04:52.01 | Amarande | Horde players tend to be more hardcore, so perhaps fishing *is* more of an anathema Horde side :) |
| 04:52.43 | znf | <3 El's Anglin |
| 04:53.17 | Amarande | and with the various realm consolidation measures, it's only worse now |
| 04:53.28 | Amarande | since that's that many fewer Master Angler of Azeroth's being handed out |
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| 04:54.51 | Ivnedar | I used to try every week |
| 04:55.03 | Ressy | znf: You fish up the Ephemeral Fishing Pole yet? |
| 04:55.05 | Ivnedar | pretty much given up now :) |
| 04:55.09 | Ressy | https://twitter.com/RessyM/status/534092309407604737 |
| 04:55.11 | znf | Ressy, nah |
| 04:55.16 | znf | just a +10 one :P |
| 04:55.30 | Amarande | I basically can't anymore, now that I get 12-4 shifts on every Sunday and don't get home till about 5 |
| 04:55.35 | fewyn | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/2mj2ue/moving_forward/ |
| 04:55.36 | Ivnedar | the pole is /played, the hat is realtime |
| 04:55.38 | Amarande | which, mind you, is 5 on the *East* Coast |
| 04:55.39 | fewyn | ha |
| 04:55.53 | Amarande | but still, 5 = 2 PST, and the Extravaganza tends to be decided in the first few minutes |
| 04:56.24 | kd3 | if by few you mean... 10-15? |
| 04:56.25 | Amarande | and if it ends up being my turn to take the dog out when I get home (... it usually is on Sunday afternoon ...) yeah forget it LOL |
| 04:56.51 | kd3 | you only have to get 3rd place for achievement credit |
| 04:56.56 | Ivnedar | I think my fastest was 18 minutes, won a long time before that |
| 04:57.01 | Amarande | yes, I'll probably get tarred and feathered in a gaming channel for this one, but yeah, dog kinda matters more than an MMO title :) |
| 04:57.55 | Thunder_Child | No no Amarande, we are so game crazy that we value them over living beings..... |
| 04:58.12 | Ivnedar | use them as anti-afk devices! |
| 04:58.14 | Amarande | LOL, I was being silly about the tar and feather bit :) |
| 04:59.25 | znf | Hmm |
| 04:59.28 | Amarande | mind you, there are some times when I start to wonder about MMO gamers, like the number of them that seem to think that "fun" is not the primary purpose of MMOs |
| 04:59.38 | znf | They need to raise the follower limit. |
| 04:59.40 | Amarande | most particularly, when people get angry over wipes :S |
| 04:59.40 | znf | This is silly. |
| 04:59.53 | znf | 20+5 is not enough :( |
| 05:00.03 | Ivnedar | how many active ones do you need? |
| 05:00.03 | znf | like, I have to keep ~5 around just for buildings |
| 05:00.22 | znf | Ivnedar, well, right now? a lot :-| |
| 05:00.27 | znf | I have like ~14 available missions |
| 05:00.37 | Ivnedar | ah, and you want to do them all at once |
| 05:00.47 | znf | "them"? |
| 05:00.48 | Amarande | It's one thing to go omg and laugh and take it in good fun "dude, wtf, how did you possibly think standing in that fire was the right thing to do ... oh dear shakes head" |
| 05:00.54 | znf | well, I would liek to do them all |
| 05:01.05 | znf | especially since I have no followers to counter those abilities :-/ |
| 05:01.09 | Amarande | otoh, you get a lot of players who do things like attack their fellow players "effing noobs" and like when they wipe |
| 05:01.16 | znf | I was really unlucky while leveling |
| 05:01.19 | Amarande | even if, say, they *know* that one or more players haven't beat the boss before |
| 05:01.31 | znf | I didn't get one epic follower :-/ |
| 05:01.33 | Ivnedar | use the inn to recruit ones that have the counters you're missing |
| 05:01.37 | Amarande | znf: followers to counter abilities? |
| 05:01.41 | Ivnedar | deactivate the ones that are "useless" |
| 05:01.47 | Amarande | wow, I don't get this whole WoD thing at all, heh |
| 05:01.56 | Ivnedar | once they get to 100, they go up a rarity I thought? |
| 05:01.58 | Amarande | are you sure you're playing wow? |
| 05:02.05 | znf | Ivnedar, yeah they do |
| 05:02.08 | Amarande | this sounds like some other mmo |
| 05:02.11 | znf | also, I don't really have place for Tavern :P |
| 05:02.11 | Amarande | :) |
| 05:02.50 | Amarande | znf, you shall forevermore be known as "znf of the Dry Garrison" :) |
| 05:02.58 | znf | limited spots... |
| 05:03.13 | znf | and limited resources :( |
| 05:03.17 | znf | didn't do garrison 3 yet |
| 05:03.21 | Amarande | seriously dude ... everyone knows heroes meet in a bar when they're getting ready to save the world. how can they do that without a bar? :D |
| 05:04.04 | znf | progression towards raid gear > followers |
| 05:04.34 | Ivnedar | followers assist progression towards raid gear :D |
| 05:04.40 | Amarande | and you can always use the time honoured LFD and LFR for that :) |
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| 05:05.09 | znf | Ivnedar, not all, really |
| 05:05.26 | Amarande | though who knows, maybe you can only get your starter raid gear from followers now |
| 05:05.33 | Amarande | maybe everyone just gets a bag of gold in LFR now :) |
| 05:05.37 | znf | Ressy, [07:05:19] You receive loot: [Tentacled Hat]. |
| 05:05.38 | znf | :D |
| 05:11.52 | Ressy | nice |
| 05:14.02 | znf | http://gfycat.com/EquatorialFocusedKatydid |
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| 07:07.13 | Arrowmaster | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxzgwJ8tSE0 |
| 07:07.14 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck |
| 07:07.18 | Arrowmaster | seriously what the fuck |
| 07:19.02 | znf | How the hell can I make sure my addon/snippet triggers after another addon? |
| 07:20.48 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: So it's like the Crank of music. *shrug*. |
| 07:23.46 | Maldivia | znf: add a dependency to that addon (or an optional dep), that should make sure that addon is loaded before yours, then you can hook into its stuff? |
| 07:24.05 | znf | I don't think I can do that, seing that I use devpad for my snippet :-/ |
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| 08:16.32 | Cidan | Arrowmaster: what the fuck dude |
| 08:22.22 | karl_w_w | Arrowmaster, but |
| 08:22.26 | karl_w_w | why? |
| 08:34.46 | NuSuey | morning |
| 08:35.18 | NuSuey | hey is there a faster way how to test an addon? guess not if I wanna test it during a movie playback :X |
| 08:37.28 | mikma | umm, eh |
| 08:38.05 | NuSuey | Cidan: what happened.. what did I miss |
| 08:40.01 | mikma | arrowmaster told cidan that he loves him |
| 08:41.25 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: why's there no option to disable the fog when hovering off the map in mapster? |
| 08:42.33 | nevcairiel | "hovering off"? |
| 08:46.19 | Cidan | NuSuey: |
| 08:46.21 | Cidan | <Arrowmaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxzgwJ8tSE0 |
| 08:46.21 | Cidan | <Arrowmaster> what the fuck |
| 08:46.21 | Cidan | <Arrowmaster> seriously what the fuck |
| 08:46.51 | NuSuey | how can I insert an IF with specific ids to print out a specific message within this? hooksecurefunc(MovieFrame, 'StartMovie', function(_, id) print('Playing movie: '..id) end) ...was trying out stuff with no success |
| 08:55.17 | Shirik|Ghost | what the fuck |
| 08:55.27 | Shirik | how did you even find this |
| 08:55.29 | Cidan | Shirik: I was waiting for you to get back! |
| 08:55.33 | Cidan | just so you could see that! |
| 08:56.50 | NuSuey | damn, noone? |
| 08:57.01 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 08:58.02 | Cidan | NuSuey: sorry I'm not up to date on wow ui API's, but if I'm reading that right, just newline after the function(_, id) and if there |
| 08:59.14 | Cidan | http://pastebin.com/tuxAdENg |
| 08:59.49 | Cidan | man i should really get back into this, but... i really don't feel a need to, no UI I really want to write that you fine people don't do already |
| 09:15.56 | Maldivia | NuSuey: it's like any other function -- just unlined in this case, you can all the logic you want to it... you can ofcourse also always make a named function instead, and just reference that in your hooksecurefunc call |
| 09:16.03 | Maldivia | inlined* |
| 09:17.46 | Maldivia | (ok, and also all the other typos in that sentence... I shouldn't be writing anything right now apparently) |
| 09:21.04 | NuSuey | oh zz_Cidan thanks :o Maldivia i'm new to lua and these type of stuff.. |
| 09:23.54 | NuSuey | Maldivia: if I'm printing out 'text',..id) then my if shouldn't be if id == "something" then .. bla bla bla .. end ? |
| 09:26.22 | NuSuey | I thought I can just do if id == "18" then print('Text') end |
| 09:26.28 | NuSuey | but I guess I'm wrong |
| 09:28.02 | Maldivia | NuSuey: you still need the function definition though |
| 09:28.57 | NuSuey | Maldivia: what do you mean by that |
| 09:29.56 | Maldivia | NuSuey: like hooksecurefunc(MovieFrame, "StartMovie", function(_, id) if id == 18 then print("Playing movie 18") end end) |
| 09:30.58 | NuSuey | well I did that .. but had id == "18" |
| 09:31.27 | Maldivia | NuSuey: I would assume id is a number here -- so you should compare it with a number and not a string |
| 09:39.00 | ccox | Cairenn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35T8wtmTbVg |
| 09:39.44 | NuSuey | Maldivia: I'm an idiot.. was testing it with the wrong number :o oh bloody hell |
| 09:40.08 | Cairenn | ccox: yeah, I saw that yesterday, it's awesome :) |
| 09:40.27 | ccox | did you follow their links to more videos? |
| 09:40.45 | Cairenn | no |
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| 09:45.46 | Cairenn | Aw man - I just looked out the window. There's white stuff on the ground. I'm going to bed. I'll see you guys next April. |
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| 09:47.44 | nevcairiel | hibernate well! |
| 09:52.27 | galaris | lol |
| 10:10.18 | NuSuey | oh bloddy hell.. it works |
| 10:10.25 | NuSuey | thanks Maldivia |
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| 10:18.31 | NuSuey | damn.. a message cannot contain a hyperlink? :o |
| 10:23.34 | NuSuey | guess everybody is sleeping atm :p |
| 10:45.40 | Semlar | NuSuey: what's your question? |
| 10:46.37 | NuSuey | so.. I need a clickable link / or something that I can copy/paste somewhere .. guess that is not working in a print() or message command? |
| 10:46.57 | Ivnedar | an item link? |
| 10:47.02 | Semlar | how are you trying to print it |
| 10:47.05 | Semlar | from /run? |
| 10:47.30 | NuSuey | Ivnedar: nah, a website link |
| 10:47.37 | Semlar | oh |
| 10:47.55 | Ivnedar | you want a link in game that opens a web browser outside of the game? |
| 10:47.57 | Semlar | well, no you can't launch the browser if that's what you mean |
| 10:48.10 | Semlar | that would be a security risk |
| 10:48.25 | NuSuey | okay, then a message / text/ string that I could copy? |
| 10:49.02 | Semlar | there are addons that make hyperlinks clickable to bring up a box you can copy out of, like prat |
| 10:50.06 | NuSuey | well I'm working on one addon with a help of some amazing people out here, but what I'm missing is .. that I need to copy the link I provide to enable the user to view it in the browser |
| 10:51.11 | NuSuey | guess I should look into those addons which clickable hyperlinks, or is there an easier idea? |
| 10:51.12 | Semlar | you can't send a link to someone who isn't running your addon and have any control over what it does |
| 10:51.16 | Semlar | if that's what you mean |
| 10:51.28 | NuSuey | you missunderstood me |
| 10:51.57 | NuSuey | I as an user gets a hyperlink, I wanna watch the hyperlink somewhere - if I can't copy it or click on it, thats a problem.. |
| 10:52.04 | Ivnedar | best you could do is make a link that when you click on it pops up a text box with link in it already highlighted |
| 10:52.19 | Semlar | there are a few chat addons that can do this |
| 10:52.24 | Ivnedar | I don't think you can push it to the clipboard automatically? |
| 10:52.36 | NuSuey | Ivnedar: it's hard to do? |
| 10:54.44 | karl_w_w | lollipop time woo |
| 10:55.34 | Ivnedar | shouldn't be, pop up an edit box, settext to the url, highlighttext, setfocus |
| 11:03.31 | NuSuey | Ivnedar: easy for you :) |
| 11:09.37 | Ivnedar | hrrm, where are chat logs saved now days? |
| 11:10.06 | Ivnedar | I guess it's an extra step to go to the log file if you're printign it there |
| 12:39.55 | karl_w_w | oh thank fuck you can make android chrome use the pre-lollipop tab system |
| 12:42.27 | Fisker | u wot m8? |
| 12:43.26 | karl_w_w | in lollipop, chrome merged the browser tabs with the app switcher |
| 12:43.31 | karl_w_w | and it's fucking horrible |
| 12:43.54 | Fisker | I know |
| 12:43.56 | Fisker | and it's awesome |
| 12:44.36 | karl_w_w | except if chrome closes when you reopen chrome you can't see anything other than the first tab |
| 12:45.01 | karl_w_w | the old tabs dont appear until they're loaded, and you can't load them until they open |
| 12:46.06 | karl_w_w | plus the fact that it's just horrible to use |
| 12:46.35 | karl_w_w | and you can't even swipe across the address bar to change tab |
| 13:22.57 | Gnarfoz | random video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A37ceq_nHsY Chris Metzen singing Sweet Home Alabama :D |
| 13:25.10 | Alram | years behind |
| 13:25.19 | Alram | but i still love you Gnarfoz |
| 13:25.59 | Ivnedar | for some reason that video gives me a tony stark vibe |
| 13:26.15 | Alram | well chris is the tony stark of blizzard |
| 13:26.31 | Alram | but instead of technology its voice acting |
| 13:26.39 | Alram | (not story pls metzen) |
| 13:26.56 | Gnarfoz | pretty much |
| 13:39.09 | Fisker | I want to be level 1 0 0 today Alram |
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| 14:06.07 | Lopeppeppy | Sleety freezy stupid slushy winter. |
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| 14:19.46 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy |
| 14:20.17 | Lopeppeppy | I'm wet, and I'm hysterical! |
| 14:26.00 | Fisker | TMI |
| 14:30.43 | mitch0 | BAU |
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| 14:43.36 | karl_w_w | TTFN |
| 14:48.09 | jleclanche | anyone else having problems with GameTooltip disappearing? |
| 14:48.16 | Ivnedar | yeah |
| 14:48.19 | jleclanche | i think an addon might be fucking with it |
| 14:48.25 | jleclanche | Ivnedar: what addons do you have? |
| 14:48.37 | Ivnedar | someone found a blue post about it yesterday |
| 14:48.39 | Ivnedar | looks |
| 14:48.40 | Fisker | handynotes was the only one in common last time we had this discussion |
| 14:48.47 | jleclanche | I dont have handynotes |
| 14:48.47 | Fisker | But yeah it's happening |
| 14:48.49 | Fisker | reload ui |
| 14:48.57 | jleclanche | aye i am reloading ui |
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| 15:32.03 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/6tAV2SE.jpg?1 how to win at college |
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| 16:43.53 | foxlit | I wish Lacerate just transformed into Pulverize when at 3 stacks. |
| 16:44.20 | fewyn | gg fewyn i think you bugged the scenaro |
| 16:45.13 | Constie | Nice job breaking it, fewyn. |
| 16:45.30 | fewyn | thanks |
| 16:45.33 | fewyn | it's what i'm here for |
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| 17:09.28 | SinusPi | Did the debugprofilestop() function suddenly switch to returning microseconds instead of milliseconds..? |
| 17:09.32 | SinusPi | I have an uptime of 18 days here, and debugprofilestop() returns 4857329374.6342 for me, for example, giving me a couple of Integer Overflows later on... Is that new or what? |
| 17:10.12 | SinusPi | Before, GetTime() used to return seconds, debugprofilestop() used to get milliseconds, and one minus the other would be netting milliseconds this frame... Now my milliseconds are into billions somehow. |
| 17:10.29 | SinusPi | Am I retarded, or did something change here..? |
| 17:15.15 | SinusPi | Huh. Or perhaps default code stopped calling debugprofilestart() on startup or something. |
| 17:17.56 | Neffi | that's possible |
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| 17:26.23 | SinusPi | Is there some trick to return the current animation frame number..? I need some debug code to be able to strictly tell if it's being ran twice the same frame... Do you guys know if GetTime() is guaranteed to return a different time each frame, or can frames run sub-millisecond during load sequences or something? |
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| 18:14.15 | Cidan | I know in general, GetTime is not gauranteed to give you different times |
| 18:14.24 | Cidan | but it prolly is good enough |
| 18:15.41 | Semlar | debugprofilestop() was always microseconds |
| 18:15.51 | Semlar | its point is to measure cpu time |
| 18:16.11 | Semlar | and gettime was milliseconds |
| 18:16.15 | Semlar | time() is seconds |
| 18:18.58 | nevcairiel | Semlar: debugprofilestop is milliseconds with sub-ms precision |
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| 18:35.11 | Semlar | whatevs |
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| 18:49.17 | Lopeppeppy | The Boyfriend has threatened a "curse jar" for every time I use text-speak for real. |
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| 18:54.57 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/1tGq7B5 |
| 18:58.09 | Kaelten | Lopeppeppy seems legit |
| 18:59.50 | Lopeppeppy | I work on a college campus, I have the text-speak virus, Kaelten! |
| 18:59.52 | Lopeppeppy | Lolz! |
| 18:59.57 | Lopeppeppy | Roffles! |
| 18:59.59 | Lopeppeppy | *sigh* |
| 19:00.51 | Kane_ | So.... |
| 19:01.03 | Kane_ | I'm streaming stormrage queue failing up not down.. http://www.twitch.tv/stonelegion |
| 19:01.11 | Kane_ | like it started at 400 now it's 700 lol |
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| 19:03.15 | Kaelten | when you finally kick it you'll be able to afford a new car! |
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| 19:08.21 | dolby | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAm5yxQA_HY Goat Simulator MMO |
| 19:10.15 | Kane_Hart | HAHAHA login queue |
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| 19:39.47 | Gethe | new sub http://www.reddit.com/r/wowaddons/ |
| 19:40.36 | Alram | created by wow_cheats |
| 19:40.40 | Alram | subreddit for 4 years |
| 19:42.58 | Gethe | maybe newly public? |
| 19:43.03 | Gethe | looks new |
| 19:43.53 | Torhal | Gethe: Everything is old to Alram. |
| 19:44.07 | Alram | Torhal, pls ur like ancient |
| 19:44.15 | Gethe | lol |
| 19:44.27 | Torhal | waves his cane menacingly at Alram. |
| 19:44.36 | Alram | catch me grandpa |
| 19:45.15 | Torhal | writes a try/catch around Alram, which then throws him. |
| 19:45.20 | Alram | :( |
| 19:47.05 | Thunder_Child | Ancient in this industry is mid 30's. |
| 19:47.13 | Thunder_Child | I don't think you need a cane yet. |
| 19:53.37 | karl_w_w | the worst part of getting upgrades when you level is that it breaks your lovely transmog |
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| 20:33.14 | foxlit | I feel like compared to the DPS proving grounds trials, the tank trials were woefully overtuned. |
| 20:33.41 | foxlit | also, my castsequence macro broke. qq. |
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| 21:12.28 | Ssateneth | i got a headache :( |
| 21:12.34 | fewyn | the daily apexis crystal quest from the garrison is a bitch... almost wish i picked ashran instead |
| 21:13.01 | Ssateneth | is there a particularly easy way to get the spell ID of a spell being cast on the spot? UnitCastingInfo doesnt return any information that could lead to spell ID |
| 21:13.15 | Ssateneth | fewyn the ashran one is easy |
| 21:13.21 | Ssateneth | kill 1 mob in ashran = completed |
| 21:13.26 | fewyn | the skettis one is annoying |
| 21:13.49 | kd3 | the lost veil anzu one was annoying yesterday |
| 21:13.55 | fewyn | skettis is today |
| 21:14.04 | kd3 | it wasn't sufficiently clear to eat the mobs you kill to move the progress bar |
| 21:14.58 | fewyn | fsck these flying birds that dive bomb from nowhere too |
| 21:18.44 | karl_w_w | the garrisons ui needs some serious work |
| 21:18.52 | karl_w_w | the missions ui I mean |
| 21:19.19 | kd3 | a callout on "Hey, this is how you deactivate followers once you've hit the limit of 20" would be nice |
| 21:19.55 | Fisker | there's a limit? |
| 21:19.55 | Fisker | wat |
| 21:20.14 | kd3 | you can collect all you want, but you can only have an active roster of 20 at a time, including those working in buildings |
| 21:20.33 | Fisker | :/ |
| 21:21.59 | nevcairiel | or 25 with barracks level 3 |
| 21:22.10 | nevcairiel | which makes the building really strong in my book |
| 21:24.44 | Fisker | I'll make you strong nevcairiel |
| 21:32.51 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:32.58 | Fisker | runs |
| 21:33.09 | Ssateneth | so is it at all possible to code something up so the default UnitCastingInfo and UnitChannelInfo functions has an extra return that is the spell id? |
| 21:33.20 | Dagmar | World of Cooldowns |
| 21:33.25 | Ssateneth | i kind of want to pay for something like that.. because my brain hurts :( |
| 21:33.41 | Ssateneth | or a separate function is fine too |
| 21:33.45 | Dagmar | ...or perhaps Cooldowns of Draenor |
| 21:34.32 | Ssateneth | i know the combat log has spell ids but i can't wrap my mind around how to make an on-the-spot inquiry of the spell id thats being cast by an arbitrary unit |
| 21:42.29 | foxlit | what does UnitCastingInfo return? |
| 21:44.14 | Ssateneth | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitCastingInfo |
| 21:44.18 | Ssateneth | that |
| 21:54.06 | Neffi | Ssateneth: you would not modify global functions, no |
| 21:54.21 | Neffi | I always thought they DID return the spellid but apparently not |
| 21:55.51 | Neffi | I don't... think it's possible Ssateneth |
| 21:56.39 | Neffi | afaik the API functions (GetSpellInfo, GetSpellLink) can only convert a spellname->spellid if you know the spell |
| 21:56.41 | Semlar | uh i wrote something once that kept track of what every unit was casting based entirely on the combat log |
| 21:57.03 | Semlar | there were small issues with latency |
| 21:57.03 | Neffi | oh, yeah, you could use the combat log instead of the casting events, and you'll get the spellid |
| 21:57.43 | Neffi | I figured CLEU fired in realtime. No, Semlar? |
| 21:57.59 | Semlar | well, i was doing it to track interrupts on spells |
| 21:58.09 | Semlar | for spells that don't actually fire an interrupt event |
| 21:58.12 | Semlar | like stuns and stuff |
| 21:58.30 | Semlar | but if you interrupted towards the end of the cast |
| 21:58.41 | Semlar | it was a tossup whether it actually got interrupted or not |
| 21:59.01 | Semlar | well, okay that's not entirely true |
| 21:59.02 | Neffi | yeah I don't think the order of CLEU events is really deterministic |
| 21:59.24 | Neffi | but it ought to do for Ssateneth's purposes |
| 21:59.27 | Semlar | i could have had a delay to wait and see if the spell succeeded in the cleu |
| 21:59.42 | Semlar | and THEN decide whether it had been interrupted |
| 21:59.52 | Semlar | but there would have been a delay in the output |
| 22:00.30 | Neffi | but the CLEU does fire off the individual events as soon as it gets them (well, at least during the next event cycle), right? |
| 22:00.48 | Semlar | yeah |
| 22:01.24 | Semlar | but when you stun a guy who has like 0.2 seconds left on the cast, we don't know for sure whether the cast was interrupted or not |
| 22:01.45 | Neffi | yeah, it's always been like that |
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| 22:03.18 | Semlar | i don't know what he's trying to do though |
| 22:03.33 | Semlar | if he just wants spell ids for unitcastinginfo it wouldn't be that hard |
| 22:03.50 | Semlar | i did something like that to colorize the spell name with the spell school on the nameplates |
| 22:03.56 | Semlar | since all i had was a spell name to work with |
| 22:05.18 | Semlar | you will run into some cases where you don't see a combat log event for a unit that's casting though |
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| 22:05.35 | Gnarfoz | funny - the much hated CRZ was apparently the solution they used for the Draenor overcrowding problem... CRZ the server with itself, boom, more Draenors! :D |
| 22:06.17 | Semlar | you can't cross a realm with itself that's ridiculous |
| 22:06.37 | Alram | its just phasing |
| 22:06.39 | Alram | nothing special |
| 22:07.02 | Alram | just on a bigger level |
| 22:07.31 | Alram | and seeing CRZ uses phasing i guess you could say that |
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| 22:13.06 | Ssateneth | sorry i went to take a rest because this problem gave me a headache |
| 22:13.15 | Ssateneth | yeah, combat log has spell id's |
| 22:14.26 | Ssateneth | the problem is storing each units current spellid and neatly removing it when its no longer relevant (spell finished or got interrupted or unit died/despawned) |
| 22:14.42 | Ssateneth | and.. i just can't wrap my mind around it |
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| 22:16.40 | Neffi | Ssateneth: instead of using events like UNIT_SPELLCAST_START and then checking UnitCastingInfo for WHAT they are casting, just use CLEU altogether |
| 22:17.07 | Neffi | the info is already there, and the events fire just as reliably |
| 22:17.19 | Neffi | at least I think they do |
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| 22:19.10 | Neffi | Ssateneth: alternately you could just build up a spellname->spellid map over time using the CLEU |
| 22:19.12 | Ssateneth | I've already got cleu information since I'm sniffing it for other addons |
| 22:19.29 | Ssateneth | i probably used wrong words there. im not an addon expert by any means |
| 22:19.57 | Neffi | can you show me some example/existing code of what you are trying to achieve, that you need the spellid along with UnitCastingInfo? |
| 22:23.03 | Ssateneth | The ultimate aim is to blacklist certain spells so I'm not alerted to kick them. Like the 3 protectors boss in everbloom. there 6 interruptable spells cast there in the encounter, but 2 of them you dont want to waste an interrupt on. another 2 are important and kickable, but can be purged/dispelled. the last 2 I really need kicked |
| 22:23.30 | Ssateneth | and i dont trust names for whatever reason, plus multiplanguage |
| 22:23.47 | Ssateneth | id's would work better but meh... unitcastinginfo doesnt return spell id |
| 22:26.34 | Neffi | then yeah, the alert system should just be going off CLEU not UNIT_SPELL* events |
| 22:27.18 | Semlar | neatly removing? |
| 22:27.21 | Semlar | heh |
| 22:28.10 | Neffi | neatly removes Semlar's brainstem |
| 22:28.14 | Semlar | :| |
| 22:28.18 | Neffi | woops, /me and all |
| 22:28.30 | Semlar | well now it could be anyone |
| 22:28.56 | Neffi | we got ourselves a game of Clue |
| 22:29.57 | Semlar | "The ultimate aim is to blacklist certain spells so I'm not alerted to kick them." why don't you just use the name |
| 22:30.26 | Semlar | it would be approximately seven times easier |
| 22:31.37 | Ssateneth | it would.. but multilanguage, plus what if a spell shares name with a different spell but has different effects |
| 22:31.42 | Ssateneth | iono.. :X |
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| 22:32.11 | Semlar | i highly doubt two spells are going to have the same name and you are only going to want to not interrupt one of them |
| 22:32.31 | Semlar | and you can get the localized name from GetSpellInfo |
| 22:33.19 | Semlar | also i would think it would make a lot more sense to make a list of what you do interrupt instead of what you don't want to interrupt |
| 22:33.48 | Ssateneth | I guess i could use names for now.. until a problem comes up :S |
| 22:33.52 | Ssateneth | it just feels dirty |
| 22:34.05 | Semlar | now you're an addon author! |
| 22:36.04 | Torhal | Unlike Semlar. |
| 22:36.10 | Torhal | Oh, wait. He released something. |
| 22:36.21 | Semlar | i have SEVERAL addons how dare you |
| 22:36.28 | Ivnedar | groupies can feel just as dirty! |
| 22:36.29 | Semlar | how DARE you |
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| 22:37.11 | Ssateneth | Meh, see, 'archmage sol' boss in everbloom casts a spell "Fireball" that you dont want to interrupt because you need to save interrupt for "parasitic growth" |
| 22:37.30 | Ssateneth | But other people i DO want to interrupt fireball |
| 22:37.31 | Ivnedar | make your blacklist use unit name + spell name |
| 22:37.34 | Ssateneth | different effects :p |
| 22:37.37 | Ivnedar | as the thing to match on |
| 22:37.55 | Ssateneth | god forbid i need to use my brain to decide what to interrupt :P |
| 22:38.04 | Ssateneth | i hate using that |
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| 22:42.15 | Gnarfoz | sounds like you're trying to remake http://www.wowace.com/addons/deadened/ ? :o |
| 22:42.31 | Gnarfoz | (well, that is, as the page clearly states, ages old, from BC) |
| 22:42.40 | Gnarfoz | there's other addons that do this already, though |
| 22:42.51 | Gnarfoz | maybe one of them is still alive so you don't have to write it again ;) |
| 22:42.55 | Gnarfoz | (unless you want to, of course) |
| 22:44.49 | Gnarfoz | there was one popular alternative to Deadened of which I can't recall the name :( |
| 22:45.12 | Semlar | based on the description i'm not sure what this used to do, did it actually block your key press? |
| 22:45.43 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 22:45.55 | Gnarfoz | just not display a castbar for the spells you want to avoid interrupting |
| 22:46.14 | Gnarfoz | i.e. whitelist filter for castbar |
| 22:46.20 | Semlar | oh, it should just say it hides the castbar ._. |
| 22:46.41 | Gnarfoz | it was thought up on the spot specifically for RoS in Black Temple, hence the name |
| 22:46.47 | Torhal | Neffi: I need you to write a bot that responds to "Is Semlar an AddOn author?" |
| 22:46.57 | Semlar | :( |
| 22:47.14 | Gnarfoz | I blame Antiarc, btw |
| 22:47.17 | Gnarfoz | ~seen Antiarc |
| 22:47.22 | purl | antiarc <~Instantbi@ip68-109-131-126.ph.ph.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 234d 4h 32m 23s ago, saying: 'Shanks!'. |
| 22:47.33 | Gnarfoz | I think he's still on EJ IRC |
| 22:47.33 | Semlar | he dead |
| 22:47.50 | Gnarfoz | hah, he actually just spoke there 2 minutes ago - quite not-ded |
| 22:47.50 | Constie | RIP. |
| 22:47.51 | Fisker | I miss antiarc |
| 22:48.04 | Fisker | Yeah he's active in Google+ as well |
| 22:48.14 | Gnarfoz | I wonder if I should bug Wodin there about http://www.wowhead.com/item=118080/admiral-taylors-greatsword :( |
| 22:48.24 | foxlit | kd3: do we have a list of all garrison outpost abilities somewhere? |
| 22:48.28 | Gnarfoz | but seeing that he already replied on Twitter to someone... :( |
| 22:48.39 | Gnarfoz | best sword EU |
| 22:48.50 | Gnarfoz | but not xmog because horde also gets it as a quest reward! |
| 22:49.06 | Gnarfoz | >:[ |
| 22:52.16 | kd3 | on the wiki? I doubt it |
| 22:56.51 | Semlar | http://wowhead.com/news=242853/garrison-outpost-guide-zone-wide-perks-quests-followers |
| 22:57.44 | Neffi | Torhal: O.o |
| 22:57.52 | Neffi | didn't I mail you somewhere? |
| 22:57.58 | Ivnedar | Corral ftw! |
| 22:58.08 | Semlar | more like tank ftw |
| 22:58.25 | Ivnedar | Corral 4lyf |
| 22:58.39 | Semlar | tank 4 death |
| 22:58.51 | Ivnedar | Talbuk + strider = water walking mount |
| 22:58.57 | Ivnedar | no need to dismount while interacting with things |
| 22:59.06 | Ivnedar | Talbuk + glider = "flying" mount |
| 22:59.08 | Semlar | oh yeah? well how do you get the talbuk to stand on the water strider |
| 22:59.24 | Semlar | http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/resized/419323.jpg |
| 22:59.30 | Ivnedar | Superglue on their hooves |
| 22:59.50 | Ivnedar | being able to mount up in combat is pretty handy |
| 23:00.26 | Semlar | i'm a hunter so maybe i'm biased |
| 23:00.50 | Neffi | that's not how you spell "bad" |
| 23:00.56 | Neffi | ;) |
| 23:00.59 | Ivnedar | It has all the required letters |
| 23:01.12 | Semlar | but being able to cast while mounted and running faster doesn't really do much for me |
| 23:01.56 | Semlar | on the other hand the tank does infinite damage |
| 23:02.49 | Ivnedar | I haven't worked out what they mean by the corral being an account wide mount |
| 23:03.00 | Ivnedar | tank on every toon but one on the account and you get both? |
| 23:03.20 | Semlar | it's account wide if you only have one character |
| 23:03.31 | Semlar | 23 skidoo! |
| 23:03.31 | Cidan | lol |
| 23:03.57 | Cidan | honestly, I look for the long term benefits, the follower I get, etc. |
| 23:04.13 | Ivnedar | But you can change your mind as your situation changes |
| 23:05.41 | Ivnedar | So pick whatever will be fun for you at the time, go back and change it if you want to try out the other option, or need that perk for something |
| 23:08.14 | xyphoid_ | i love feign death on talbukback |
| 23:08.20 | xyphoid_ | it actually animates okay |
| 23:08.40 | Ivnedar | underwater mounted combat looks a bit weird |
| 23:09.13 | xyphoid_ | the corral mount was pretty confusing at first since it's not actually a mount as far as i can tell |
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| 23:32.35 | zenzelezz | this joke is getting old, but still... https://twitter.com/xaprb/status/534366291612950528/photo/1 |
| 23:35.36 | karl_w_w | I prefer this one zenzelezz http://www.prosebeforehos.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/second-amendment-scoreboard-cartoon.jpg |
| 23:37.30 | Torhal | Replace the reference to guns with knives, baseball bats, bricks, etcetera. |
| 23:37.34 | Torhal | shrugs. |
| 23:37.39 | Torhal | Killers gonna kill. |
| 23:38.08 | Fisker | I want to sleep Torhal |
| 23:38.20 | Torhal | Don't snort coke, and you should be fine. |
| 23:39.43 | Fisker | Oh |
| 23:39.51 | karl_w_w | except everyone is a killer |
| 23:40.02 | karl_w_w | the only difference is circumstance |
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| 23:49.38 | Cidan | that picture is fucking stupid |
