| 00:12.39 | foxlit | you're not going to get the camera angles, but it's not like you need them -- given time spent rotating, you can trial-and-error your way to figuring out how much you need to compensate at the end. |
| 00:15.29 | knod | How do you keep that kind of error from building up over time? |
| 00:17.09 | foxlit | if its a small enough drift, who cares? |
| 00:17.44 | knod | Depends how much time goes by |
| 00:18.12 | foxlit | reposition your camera manually when it gets too annoying. |
| 00:18.42 | knod | Fair enough |
| 00:19.13 | knod | When I can figure out how the heck to make addons and how to do the rest of it, maybe I'll be able to do it |
| 00:19.35 | knod | Ok, thanks for trying everyone, I appreciate the effort you put into it |
| 00:20.01 | knod | Good luck with all your projects |
| 00:20.04 | knod | :) |
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| 01:18.13 | fewyn | almost done milling these herbs... the long part is making the inks |
| 01:18.21 | fewyn | i really wish blizzard would overhaul ink creation |
| 01:19.23 | Amarande | fewyn: is it any worse than most other systems? |
| 01:19.25 | Amarande | well, I guess it is in a way |
| 01:19.38 | fewyn | it's going to take about an hour to craft these inks |
| 01:19.40 | fewyn | i think |
| 01:19.49 | Amarande | the fact that milling is clunky UI wise ... it ought to be a regular craft thing so you can use "craft all" like you can with other basic components |
| 01:20.03 | Amarande | e.g., miners get to mass smelt, tailors get to mass boltify cloth |
| 01:20.14 | Amarande | but you have to one-by-one click for milling |
| 01:20.30 | fewyn | each ink has a 2s cast time, and i have about ~2000 inks to craft |
| 01:20.34 | foxlit | gw2's speed-up-repeated-crafting mechanic is clearly awesome. |
| 01:20.38 | fewyn | yes |
| 01:20.43 | fewyn | i love gw2 crafting |
| 01:20.45 | Amarande | that's the only thing I see kind of sucking about inscription ... the ink production itself doesn't seem to me any more annoying than mass smelting ore or producing cloth bolts |
| 01:21.00 | fewyn | well you have to also mill the herbs |
| 01:21.03 | fewyn | which is the real kicker |
| 01:21.08 | Amarande | yeah, that's what I mean |
| 01:21.19 | fewyn | i've been milling for about an hour |
| 01:21.25 | foxlit | q&a said that they'll maybe fix that. |
| 01:21.26 | fewyn | now i have an hour to craft the inks |
| 01:21.27 | Amarande | milling might be better replaced with a recipe for "(foo) Dye" that takes 5 identical herbs as a material |
| 01:21.30 | fewyn | "maybe" |
| 01:21.36 | Amarande | I suppose it would need to be several recipes with the same output |
| 01:21.54 | fewyn | what they need to do is a way to mill down entire stacks |
| 01:21.54 | Amarande | but then it's probably already that under the hood, heck, you probably know (*cough* wowhead ...) :) |
| 01:21.58 | fewyn | or partial stacks |
| 01:22.14 | foxlit | or multiple stacks |
| 01:22.21 | fewyn | yeah |
| 01:22.22 | foxlit | "place items here, receive inks over there" sort of thing. |
| 01:22.31 | fewyn | yes i would love something like that |
| 01:32.09 | Constie | As an engineer, I think engineers should be able to craft expensive consumable items that make other crafting of other professions faster and/or more convenient. |
| 01:32.27 | Amarande | well, there's already the thermal anvils :) |
| 01:32.43 | Semlar | rocket propelled anvils |
| 01:32.48 | Amarande | I'm not sure what a similar idea would be for alchemy or tailoring :S |
| 01:33.20 | Amarande | (leatherworkers are too far gone already ... you basically have to be a masochist to pick LW, so you're probably used to pain) |
| 01:33.34 | Constie | A device that takes any amount of cloth and instantly turns it into bolts. |
| 01:33.46 | Amarande | well, I guess I shouldn't be so hard on LW |
| 01:34.03 | Amarande | tbh, I think they're largely the victim of the "easyification" of the leveling game that began with 2.3 |
| 01:34.46 | Amarande | because you level so much faster now and the materials requirements have never really been adjusted for LW (come to think of it, have they been adjusted for anyone, other than Engi?) to compensate, you're always starving for mats |
| 01:35.20 | Amarande | and because of that net negative being almost a constant thing, there's no help for it but go back and farm, either, because even buying out the entire AH is rarely enough for LW |
| 01:36.06 | Amarande | unlike BS, Engi, JC, Inscription, or Alchemy, where there's usually enough surplus ore and herbs being farmed and sold that you don't even have to set foot outside town if you don't want to |
| 01:36.10 | foxlit | Neffi: it should, but that's hard. Maybe in the future. |
| 01:36.22 | Amarande | though I'm surprised tailoring doesn't pose the same problem :S |
| 01:36.27 | foxlit | (/random days-old reply) |
| 01:36.44 | Amarande | there's almost always ample supplies of cloth on the AH, even if it tends to be rather pricey |
| 01:36.44 | Neffi | I forgot the context on that, but ok fox |
| 01:36.48 | fewyn | does anyone know how or if it's even possible to setup a VPN on windows that will only make certain traffic travel through the vpn? |
| 01:36.57 | foxlit | something about templates in attributes |
| 01:37.17 | Amarande | fewyn: theoretically, probably |
| 01:37.25 | Amarande | practically, not sure unless you feel like coding your own from scratch |
| 01:37.54 | Amarande | that setup is usually considered a bad thing by businesses that operate VPNs, so is "strongly discouraged" from software best practises :| |
| 01:38.17 | fewyn | basically i play FFXIV and there's a bad route between Verizon and SE's candian (montreal i think) datacenters |
| 01:38.21 | fewyn | neither is willing to fix it |
| 01:38.22 | Neffi | Oh, yeah, Globe thing, ok |
| 01:38.47 | Amarande | (for rather basic reasons ... yes, it's because you're basically becoming an untrusted network border between the VPN and the Internet ...) |
| 01:39.02 | Amarande | ah, what you mean is a port tunnel |
| 01:39.28 | Amarande | I'm sure that's relatively readily feasible though I'm not sure what software you use to do it on windows off the top of my head |
| 01:39.51 | Amarande | and anything I come up with is probably going to look like a Rube Goldberg machine compared to the "right" way |
| 01:40.43 | Amarande | First off the head thought: firewall rule that routes outbound data going to the FFXIV port, to a VirtualBox Linux instance, which then runs one end of an SSH tunnel to somewhere else, which then routes to the game server |
| 01:41.16 | Amarande | (pretty sure you need the ssh tunnel in all cases, but needing a separate VM to do the tunneling is probably overkill) |
| 01:41.57 | Amarande | I'm also not sure if that would be considered by the servers to be cheating and earn you that dreaded "Permanent ban from FINAL FANTASY XIV" |
| 01:42.10 | fewyn | as long as you don't mention it ingame |
| 01:42.12 | fewyn | it's okay =p |
| 01:42.19 | fewyn | but that's because SE is retarded with some policies |
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| 01:42.59 | Amarande | not as bad as what I hear about XI, though ... I've read that fishing was a high risk profession there ... yes, FISHING |
| 01:43.17 | fewyn | no one actually fishes in ffxi |
| 01:43.25 | fewyn | if you do you're botting |
| 01:44.12 | Amarande | and if you're not, someone will probably accuse you of botting, which is apparently all it took to get found guilty of botting back then |
| 01:46.59 | Amarande | XIV is close to being the perfect MMO, though |
| 01:47.09 | fewyn | i have fun with it |
| 01:47.29 | fewyn | almost have all the classes maxed out http://uplol.fewyn.net/2014-11-11_19-47-24.png |
| 01:47.30 | Thunder_Child | Well, here is hoping that gnome is going to put the $87K to good use. |
| 01:47.42 | Amarande | you wouldn't happen to know if there's *any* announcement yet as to what Heavensward's price is going to be, would you? |
| 01:48.17 | Amarande | I can't find anything listed except at Amazon, which has it at $60, but I've read that's because with their preorder price guarantee system they basically have to be pessimistic at this point and give the highest industry-likely price |
| 01:48.53 | Constie | I've been wanting to play FF14 recently, but I don't want to resubscribe now that I'm going to be playing WoW 24/7 in a couple of days. |
| 01:49.09 | Amarande | fewyn: hrm ... you might want to try to hide from people and wear laugh-proof goggles for these next 13 levels of travail :) |
| 01:49.25 | Amarande | apparently there's not much love for DRG for some reason |
| 01:49.48 | Constie | From what I gather, it's the easiest class to play poorly. |
| 01:50.18 | Amarande | Well, between that and Ninja |
| 01:50.19 | Amarande | well |
| 01:50.34 | Amarande | Ninja really just got hit with the short end of the luck stick |
| 01:50.55 | fewyn | eh once it gets capped |
| 01:50.57 | fewyn | i'm not touching it |
| 01:51.01 | Amarande | a melee DPS (though the same's true of Dragoon ...), when from what I understand, melee DPS is about the worst thing to be being the way a lot of bosses are designed |
| 01:51.11 | fewyn | i'm only really playing to cap it out |
| 01:51.15 | Amarande | particularly, cleave is still a thing in FF14 |
| 01:51.32 | Amarande | which means that on bosses where you need tank swaps you basically have to have the tanks on opposite sides of the boss |
| 01:51.42 | Amarande | this makes finding a good place to be standing as melee DPS "fun" |
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| 01:52.53 | Constie | And then I guess Dragoons have positioning requirements for DPS on top of that. |
| 01:53.02 | Amarande | same's the case for Sith Marauders in TOR, too (then again, I'm always warning Sith Warrior players, don't pick Marauder :P) |
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| 01:57.56 | Ressy | heh.. |
| 01:57.59 | Ressy | Tagging photos. >.> |
| 01:58.19 | kd3 | I hadn't looked at facebook on over a month until blizzcon |
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| 02:14.41 | Shirik | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q6utsksoFY |
| 02:14.50 | Shirik | speaking of star wars |
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| 03:26.12 | kd3 | how the hell? http://hellinahandbasket.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/8-rounds-stuck-in-a-357-barrel.jpg |
| 03:26.58 | Dagmar | Has to be a cops gun. |
| 03:27.09 | Dagmar | Anyone else would be concerned about bullets not hitting their target |
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| 03:37.26 | Thunder_Child | I think thats on a range |
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| 03:46.51 | Amarande | T_C: well that's surprising then, people would be concerned about getting a zero in front of their gun buddies wouldn't they? heh |
| 03:47.27 | Amarande | after all your typical gun enthusiast is stereotypically a macho macho man type |
| 03:47.44 | Amarande | who's probably going to be pretty competitive about things and *hate* such an embarrassment ... |
| 03:49.19 | Neffi | I'm not even remotely enthused by guns and even I find that to be a gross generalization |
| 03:53.04 | Amarande | I'm still not sure exactly how someone messed up their gun to get that to happen ... |
| 03:53.50 | Amarande | Mind you I'm not exactly expert on firearms either, but I'd think after the first jammed shot or so I'd start to worry if I kept firing like, you know, the gun might explode or powder/bullets bust out in directions they shouldn't or other accidents that wouldn't be good for me |
| 03:54.25 | Amarande | looks like the barrel got bent somehow |
| 03:54.56 | Neffi | nope. according to several sources, if you bend the barrel, the gun will still fire in the direction you bent it |
| 03:55.03 | Neffi | trust me, I watched a lot of cartoons as a kid |
| 03:56.10 | Amarande | Neffi: suuuuuuure ... and if you run off a cliff, you hang there in the air till you look down and see there's nothing under you ... LOL |
| 03:57.36 | kullervo | that pic's really made the rounds recently' |
| 03:58.08 | Amarande | (heh, I'm going to guess the hanging in midair thing didn't even work in City of Heroes, and that one actually was based on comic books :) |
| 03:58.21 | kullervo | Dagmar: nice burn but nah consider the fact that you can't even see whether you hit or not unless you're basically point blank |
| 03:58.51 | kullervo | an inexperienced shooter might not recognize the recoil being unusual and possibly alarming |
| 04:00.12 | Dagmar | So... a cop then. |
| 04:01.58 | Thunder_Child | There are people that like to go to ranges and pull the trigger as fast as they can. |
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| 04:33.03 | kullervo | Dagmar: cops are by law required to have a certain amount of training |
| 04:33.22 | kullervo | in most countries at least |
| 04:33.52 | kd3 | which is generally (at least in the states) ~15 minutes on the range and an hourish long safety video from the 70s |
| 04:34.33 | kullervo | is that a fact? |
| 04:35.01 | kd3 | no, but I've gotten more than one anecdote along those lines (and yes, the plural of anecdote != data) |
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| 04:35.08 | kullervo | I'm all for bashing the US but it has to be at least somewhat factual |
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| 04:37.33 | Ironi | kullervo just check wowprogress, that's more than enough reason to start bashing US |
| 04:38.26 | kullervo | Ironi: but that's not relevant to this particular thing |
| 04:38.41 | Ironi | it doesn't have to be |
| 04:38.42 | Ironi | x) |
| 04:41.08 | kullervo | http://i61.tinypic.com/149qatj.png |
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| 04:43.12 | kullervo | reminds me of my actual search history of "jewelry store robbery" "jewelry store cameras" "jewelry stores in <area>" |
| 04:43.49 | Thunder_Child | kullervo: No, their training is more extensive than that, plus there are periodic trips to the range to prove that you are meeting the minimum standard. |
| 04:44.01 | Amarande | I can think of an alternative to babies that a woman might find herself pregnant with |
| 04:44.06 | Amarande | but I don't want to spoiler a recent sci-fi movie :( |
| 04:44.26 | Thunder_Child | That being said, it is a fact that criminals (at least in Los Angeles) have a higher shot/hit ratio than the police. |
| 04:44.30 | kullervo | Thunder_Child: that's what I recalled reading somewhere but wasn't sure at all |
| 04:44.58 | Thunder_Child | My neighbor is a LT. with LAPD. |
| 04:44.59 | Amarande | especially since I already know about that bit because I've BEEN spoilered myself, seeing as I have the DVD of the flick in question sitting here unopened on my desk ... |
| 04:45.34 | kullervo | I know a frech police Lt |
| 04:45.38 | kullervo | we exchange cat pics |
| 04:45.50 | Amarande | Ironi: there seem plenty of US guilds on the top list this time |
| 04:45.54 | Thunder_Child | Disturbiung. |
| 04:46.01 | Amarande | actually, what's weird is ... what happened to the Taiwanese guilds this time around? |
| 04:46.02 | Thunder_Child | The cat pics part. |
| 04:46.14 | Amarande | they like, DOMINATED Dragon Soul, if memory serves |
| 04:46.27 | kullervo | we both have hard jobs â(´ã¼ï½)â |
| 04:46.39 | Amarande | the change to legendary items for MoP can't have had that big an effect can it? |
| 04:46.52 | Thunder_Child | I read that as 'hand jobs' >.< |
| 04:46.59 | Ironi | 2 in top10? |
| 04:47.15 | Ironi | and wowprogress only lists west guilds by default |
| 04:47.29 | Amarande | 6 in top 20 |
| 04:47.31 | Ironi | since comparing west and asian guilds isn't possible |
| 04:47.34 | Amarande | hm. didn't used to. |
| 04:47.48 | Amarande | used to be the Taiwanese folks were included |
| 04:47.53 | kd3 | asian realms have a different ruleset these days |
| 04:48.01 | kd3 | more item upgrades, different lockouts |
| 04:48.02 | Amarande | ah |
| 04:48.02 | Ironi | changed with mop if i remember correctly |
| 04:48.12 | Amarande | the thing I had been thinking about was Dragonwrath vs. the MoP legendaries |
| 04:48.41 | Amarande | it seemed like Taiwan was managing the Dragonwrath thing pretty well, basically all their magical DPS had one |
| 04:49.10 | Amarande | given the Asian professionalist approach to MMOs, I would not be surprised if they had entire "AAA club" guilds who were dedicated to getting top prospects prepared for the main oeuvre |
| 04:49.47 | Ironi | hmph, never noticed before, only 1 US guild in top20 in 10man bracket |
| 04:49.50 | Amarande | the MoP legendaries didn't really lend themselves so much to such an organised booster approach since it was so much more individual |
| 04:50.16 | Amarande | meanwhile, Dragonwrath seemed to actually pose a huge stumbling block for Western guilds :S |
| 04:50.28 | Amarande | Dramawrath, could be a good name for the thing, from what I read :P |
| 04:50.32 | Ironi | nvm, 2 ;P |
| 04:51.01 | Amarande | top Western guilds with multiples, it seemed, got theirs through poaching |
| 04:51.33 | Amarande | while a lot of guilds had massive issues with retaining caster DPS because as soon as they got on record as having the legendary, the top progression guilds would start headhunting |
| 04:51.46 | Amarande | basically *relegating*, *unwillingly* the other guilds to being "AAA clubs" LOL |
| 04:52.08 | Amarande | at which I just realised, you're probably not from the US so you probably don't know what the hell I mean by an AAA club, heh |
| 04:53.13 | Ironi | anonymous alt-o-holic assemblers? |
| 04:53.19 | Amarande | Ironi: Baseball |
| 04:53.40 | Stanzilla | http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/11/11/leak-download-lollipop-lrx21p-factory-image-for-2012-nexus-7-wifi/ |
| 04:53.43 | Amarande | Major league baseball teams in the US have large support structures of affiliated minor league teams that basically serve as training tiers and player reservoirs |
| 04:53.52 | Amarande | The topmost tier just below you get into the majors is the AAA |
| 04:54.47 | Amarande | so seems to often have become the case in WoW lately, you have top tier progression guilds, which are basically "the majors", and people in less primo guilds who get good enough start to get headhunted from them by the majors |
| 04:54.49 | Ironi | yeah, in most cases it just doesn't work in wow |
| 04:55.09 | Amarande | which makes it really hard to keep a second tier guild going, because you either don't progress, or you lose your good players to the top tier guilds (and then you don't progress) |
| 04:55.22 | Amarande | so you're pretty much ever in the shadows, like minor league baseball teams |
| 04:56.11 | Amarande | Dragonwrath posed a big issue because it was both a marker of dedication and skill as a caster DPS, *and* it was something you could take with you :P |
| 04:57.32 | Ironi | but you had alot of time to gather all the materials |
| 04:58.45 | Ironi | imo it was more common to have dragonwrath equipped in DS than not |
| 04:59.05 | kullervo | depending on whether it was a 10 or 25-man guild |
| 04:59.38 | kullervo | I recall 25-man raids dropped proportionally more fragments at least until it was patched much later |
| 05:00.00 | Ironi | true |
| 05:00.15 | Ironi | back then 10man vs 25man was really unbalanced |
| 05:00.16 | kullervo | and even then not EVERY caster in a guild neccessarily had it |
| 05:01.39 | Ironi | yeah if your guild did only one raid in a week, but even then almost everyone had it |
| 05:01.50 | Amarande | well, it wasn't too uncommon for there to be large numbers of them in main raid groups |
| 05:02.03 | Amarande | Ironi: the "WoW formula" tends to be built around that lately |
| 05:02.17 | Amarande | at least except when an expansion is still new and there's the 2 or 3 introductory raids |
| 05:02.22 | kullervo | before or after DS release |
| 05:02.43 | Amarande | but once you're past first tier, there's generally the one dungeon, which you generally do in a single night by the time it comes to a question of "farming" anything |
| 05:03.08 | Ironi | imo dragonwrath was the first legendary that was so common |
| 05:03.15 | Amarande | sometimes you need a second night for continuing when you're still progressing, as I remember from my raiding days, but before long you tend to finish in a single evening |
| 05:03.39 | Amarande | unless the raid is unusually long like ICC or Ulduar (maybe SoO?), perhaps |
| 05:04.18 | Amarande | the whole raid 4 nights a week thing hasn't really been a thing since BC |
| 05:04.37 | Amarande | and whether or not an MMO should demand that of players is still a topic of heated argument in many circles |
| 05:06.22 | Ironi | i think many guilds raided 3-5 nights a week for a really long time during mop tiers |
| 05:06.38 | Amarande | hmm, perhaps |
| 05:06.52 | Amarande | MoP raids were pretty legendary for being tough, come to think of it |
| 05:07.31 | Amarande | I think Terrace heroic was actually less played than Naxx 40-man in terms of those who did the content while current |
| 05:09.08 | Amarande | Hard to tell, but wowprogress, when I checked a few days before 5.2 hit, indicated that a cruel number of servers hadn't even *started* Terrace heroic (possibly not even Terrace normal!) |
| 05:09.23 | Amarande | and even the vaunted Illidan (top US progression guild most of the time) had only 6 guilds who had completed it |
| 05:10.32 | Ironi | in both brackets? |
| 05:10.49 | Amarande | I think I was looking at the tier as a whole |
| 05:11.47 | Amarande | bleh can't go back and check tier 14 by realm anymore |
| 05:14.01 | Amarande | wow, some of these realms are lopsided :) |
| 05:14.14 | Amarande | Number of US-Area 52 Horde players who've downed something on T16 Normal: 27,902 |
| 05:14.25 | Amarande | Number of US-Area 52 Alliance players who've downed something in T16 Normal: 15 |
| 05:16.11 | Amarande | I thought faction slant was a thing in a lot of places, but that one takes the biggest cake on record ... (even the absolute most terrible servers have more T16 progression on both sides than A52 has on Alliance) |
| 05:19.44 | Ironi | well, the server im on has 1 alliance guild that has killed something in t16 |
| 05:20.10 | Ironi | immerseus 10man normal was killed sep 10 2014 |
| 05:20.11 | Ironi | ;P |
| 05:20.44 | Ironi | total of 6 guilds have done something in t16 :D |
| 05:20.48 | Ironi | horde+alliance |
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| 06:05.53 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/kfqvchj.jpg |
| 06:05.58 | Mr_Rabies | iron hoard |
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| 06:18.39 | Constie | I get it. |
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| 06:46.52 | Primer | Mr_Rabies: good one |
| 06:47.01 | Primer | WTB US heroic Garry, 0 gold |
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| 06:54.11 | karl_w_w | reddit iz ded? |
| 06:54.59 | Trela | Apparently. |
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| 07:11.01 | VIad | isn't wod released today in eu? like after maintenance. and yesterday for us? |
| 07:11.14 | VIad | mmochamp has a timer that say that wod comes out thursday and friday for us :P |
| 07:11.14 | karl_w_w | yes and i still havent bought it |
| 07:11.23 | karl_w_w | i guess i officially don't play wow anymore |
| 07:11.47 | VIad | :D |
| 07:12.00 | VIad | but kaaaarl |
| 07:12.10 | VIad | why is there a dead man in the livingroom? |
| 07:12.28 | karl_w_w | I stabbed him 32 times in the chest |
| 07:12.53 | Dagmar | I was under the impression it would be midnight, less than 24 hours from now. |
| 07:12.57 | Dagmar | Midnight PST. |
| 07:13.35 | VIad | my stomach was making the rumblies, that only hands could satisfy |
| 07:13.37 | Dagmar | er slightly more than 24 hours |
| 07:13.46 | Dagmar | VIad: How many hands did you eat? |
| 07:13.51 | VIad | two |
| 07:15.15 | VIad | Dagmar: the release this year is weird |
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| 07:15.22 | VIad | instead after maintenance :p |
| 07:15.52 | smcn | Dagmar: midnight pst is 24 hours, 45 minutes from now |
| 07:16.07 | VIad | or... in 1 minute for me :p |
| 07:17.02 | VIad | I'll find out when I am back from work today :p |
| 07:17.30 | VIad | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/348867-1201-est-or-pst/ |
| 07:17.32 | VIad | :P |
| 07:17.36 | smcn | http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=midnight%20pst%20on%20november%2013&dataset= |
| 07:18.25 | VIad | so it launches tomorrow - I guess it's MoP today too after maintenance? :D |
| 07:18.37 | smcn | yes |
| 07:19.09 | VIad | unexpected, was prepared for yesterday to have been last MoP day :3 |
| 07:19.35 | Stanzilla | did your mother drop you as a child? |
| 07:19.49 | VIad | lolwut? |
| 07:19.56 | Stanzilla | just asking |
| 07:20.08 | VIad | why do you say that? |
| 07:20.43 | Stanzilla | I'm curious |
| 07:21.01 | VIad | don't know and doubt it |
| 07:22.19 | VIad | curious why you'd ask that. is it regarding the release times or something? |
| 07:24.01 | VIad | I'm off then. Stanzilla, never leave a bro hanging. |
| 07:24.02 | Stanzilla | no i was just being an ass |
| 07:24.03 | Stanzilla | all good |
| 07:24.04 | Stanzilla | :p |
| 07:24.17 | VIad | cya later |
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| 07:37.12 | karl_w_w | dammit why is my steam in french |
| 07:37.28 | karl_w_w | well, steamcommunity.com |
| 07:39.13 | Kalroth | looks at jleclanche |
| 07:39.30 | jleclanche | look, I didn't do it |
| 07:39.46 | jleclanche | besides |
| 07:39.58 | jleclanche | if I did, it's because Dagmar was being an asshole and made me do it |
| 07:40.08 | Kalroth | well that goes without saying |
| 07:40.27 | Stanzilla | hey Adys |
| 07:41.24 | karl_w_w | that Adys, always blaming Dagmar |
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| 07:42.10 | Kalroth | jleclanche: did you see that google is looking for foobar'ed python devs |
| 07:42.23 | jleclanche | look, I'm not blaming Dagmar, it was late, we were both a bit drunk, and there was a naked guy on the couch pressuring both of us |
| 07:42.29 | jleclanche | Kalroth: yes it's a fairly old thing |
| 07:42.35 | Kalroth | oh |
| 07:42.45 | jleclanche | Kalroth: sorry, I was looking at your ding-dong. |
| 07:42.56 | Stanzilla | don't ignore me, mate :( |
| 07:43.05 | Kalroth | m8 |
| 07:43.26 | Stanzilla | g8 b8 m8 |
| 07:43.28 | jleclanche | Stanzilla: adys doesn't highlight me, it's very hard to have a conversation |
| 07:43.33 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 07:43.33 | jleclanche | it's like I'd need to be called by name |
| 07:43.40 | Stanzilla | I tried that |
| 07:43.43 | Stanzilla | you yelled at me |
| 07:43.45 | Stanzilla | every time |
| 07:44.15 | jleclanche | I think what this experiment demonstrated is that I enjoy yelling at you |
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| 07:45.01 | Kalroth | maybe you pronounced the name incorrectly |
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| 08:09.21 | Kalroth | hey jleclanche how would you version restful api?! |
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| 08:14.53 | jleclanche | Kalroth: /api/v1/foo |
| 08:15.55 | Kalroth | and bump the version on every format/structure change? |
| 08:16.15 | jleclanche | Kalroth: be backwards compatible whenever possible, bump it up whenever major changes happen |
| 08:16.51 | jleclanche | so I'm finally handing in the Nordrassil's Bough quest, its been lingering in my log for so long |
| 08:16.55 | Kalroth | i was reading about it and some people prefered putting the version in the http header, but that doesn't seem very restful |
| 08:16.57 | jleclanche | Kalecgos is like, "Much has transpired since last we spoke." |
| 08:17.02 | jleclanche | no kidding dude its been three years |
| 08:17.04 | Kalroth | haha |
| 08:18.05 | jleclanche | Kalroth: I'm -1 on putting the version in the http header |
| 08:18.11 | jleclanche | if anything its harder to curl |
| 08:18.13 | jleclanche | so f it |
| 08:18.26 | Kalroth | yeah, i'm not too fond of the idea either |
| 08:19.03 | Kalroth | i'll just do /api/v1/res, /api/v2/res and do an alias of latest version to /api/res |
| 08:19.23 | jleclanche | i wouldnt do that |
| 08:19.26 | jleclanche | no alias |
| 08:19.32 | Kalroth | but i like aliases |
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| 09:53.59 | Mr_Rabies | gl brave EU pioneers |
| 09:54.36 | Mr_Rabies | wish you luck on the test launch in 13 hours or so |
| 09:57.22 | karl_w_w | gamma testers |
| 09:57.50 | Mr_Rabies | the true beta test begins here (pretend i said this in ~13 hours) |
| 09:58.15 | Semlar | beta to the max |
| 09:58.31 | nevcairiel | its ok, the US usually tests all the actual patches for us, we might as well enjoy the content before |
| 10:02.15 | karl_w_w | where "enjoy" = "struggle through" |
| 10:03.51 | nevcairiel | its not like the 9 hours until US launch is time to fix everything |
| 10:04.19 | karl_w_w | unless it's a big things |
| 10:04.22 | karl_w_w | thing |
| 10:04.49 | Mr_Rabies | that's still 9 hours to not make some of the same mistakes they made on EU side if at all possible |
| 10:04.50 | karl_w_w | plus its time for people to make all their juicy useful wowhead comments |
| 10:05.36 | Mr_Rabies | like "oh geez we need to disable this quest for now, it's causing nude photos of shrek to stream to the pc" |
| 10:05.54 | Mr_Rabies | which i'd consider a feature, not a bug |
| 10:05.57 | Mr_Rabies | but i digress |
| 10:13.36 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:14.57 | Fisker | Bag |
| 10:15.00 | Fisker | Bsh |
| 10:15.14 | Fisker | Bah :P |
| 10:15.35 | Fisker | Being tired ducks |
| 10:15.42 | Fisker | Sucks |
| 10:17.40 | Mr_Rabies | argh |
| 10:18.05 | Mr_Rabies | anyone know where to find the WoD press kit? trying to find something usable for my guild website that isn't just ORCS ORCS ORCS |
| 10:18.21 | Fisker | I like orcs |
| 10:18.44 | Mr_Rabies | i like you |
| 10:18.45 | Mr_Rabies | :* |
| 10:19.26 | Fisker | wow |
| 10:20.30 | Semlar | it's orcs all the way down |
| 10:22.45 | Semlar | i should make an orc tank just to be confusing |
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| 11:00.13 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster Dagmar: either of you know whats up with this? http://dpaste.com/32TYTF3 -- `test` both resolve to /usr/bin/test, not a builtin |
| 11:01.12 | nevcairiel | how do you know its not a builtin |
| 11:01.29 | jleclanche | `which test` |
| 11:01.45 | nevcairiel | that doesnt mean actually executing it isnt handled by some magic |
| 11:03.23 | Kalroth | try using = instead of == |
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| 12:34.02 | g0urra | has anyone ever found a replacement for ratingbuster that works with 6.0? |
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| 12:59.43 | karl_w_w | well shit |
| 12:59.50 | karl_w_w | im watching touching the void |
| 13:00.01 | karl_w_w | documentary about 2 guys who climbed a mountain |
| 13:00.12 | karl_w_w | im only a third of the way through and it's already amazing |
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| 13:56.09 | Fisker | "accidentally" hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 13:56.30 | Lopeppeppy | Like accidentally falling on a banana in the shower? |
| 13:57.05 | Fisker | That's very specific |
| 13:58.04 | Fisker | But I guess accurate |
| 13:58.49 | Fisker | OMG futurama crossover |
| 13:59.07 | Lopeppeppy | Futurama isn't running anymore, how can it cross over? |
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| 13:59.59 | Fisker | True |
| 14:00.07 | Fisker | But it's in the Simpsons apparently |
| 14:00.33 | Fisker | I miss futurama |
| 14:00.51 | nevcairiel | simpsorama! |
| 14:01.32 | Fisker | I'm sad Simpsons is still on the air and futurama is not |
| 14:01.53 | foxlit | wheee, morning is only 1500. |
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| 14:02.25 | Fisker | I'm sleeping until 12 at this time |
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| 14:36.08 | Neffi | wow this looks amazing in 1080p http://i.imgur.com/DUQ7FQL.jpg |
| 14:37.19 | karl_w_w | they're peas Neffi |
| 14:37.44 | Lopeppeppy | Peas are good for you. |
| 14:38.16 | karl_w_w | yes, when you eat them |
| 14:38.31 | karl_w_w | you can look at them when you eat them if you like |
| 14:38.42 | karl_w_w | but the looking doesn't do much by itself |
| 14:40.21 | karl_w_w | don't spend your time looking at peas when you could be watching https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touching_the_Void_%28film%29 |
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| 14:55.57 | pompy | http://rosetta.esa.int/?landing |
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| 15:05.10 | Ressy | Morning! |
| 15:06.18 | Fisker | Morning |
| 15:06.30 | Fisker | Your r is capital |
| 15:06.50 | |Jelly| | Morning! |
| 15:07.16 | Fisker | Ohai |
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| 15:33.33 | karl_w_w | is there a name for the following fallacy that I'm about to try and fail to describe: when somebody says "people complain about X and then they complain about not X, you can't have it both ways" when the people who complain about X are different to the people who complain about not X |
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| 15:35.46 | Fisker | You mean like generalising some peoples opinion based on a like a tag? |
| 15:36.11 | Fisker | Isn't that kind of like a straw man? |
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| 15:37.51 | karl_w_w | probably |
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| 16:27.00 | fewyn | http://xkcd1446.org/ |
| 16:27.30 | pompy | haha nice |
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| 17:24.38 | Shirik | "Periods of snow. High 29F. Winds E at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 100%. 5 to 8 inches of snow expected." wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 17:27.04 | Constie | Jealous. |
| 17:27.36 | fewyn | sigh you can't deposit unique items into void storage? ugh |
| 17:28.45 | karl_w_w | watch touching the void Shirik |
| 17:28.50 | karl_w_w | that's snow |
| 17:29.01 | karl_w_w | and wind and cold |
| 17:37.47 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, that's supposed to be my weather. Are you sure you're not stealing my clouds? |
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| 17:46.03 | Constie | Stealing clouds would be pretty rude. |
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| 17:50.06 | Shirik | normally we don't get any clouds :( I just felt left out |
| 17:51.54 | Fisker | I'll be your cloud Shirik |
| 17:57.16 | Lopeppeppy | Thiefing my clouds is like stealing my Ingress nodes. Rude! |
| 18:02.00 | Cidan | i believe billy corgan said it best before he turned born again jesus lover |
| 18:02.07 | Cidan | TONIIIGGGGHHTT TOOOOOONIGGGHTTTT |
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| 18:14.42 | Ressy | Con plague starting to kick in for some |
| 18:14.48 | Ressy | Neva's sick |
| 18:15.02 | Fisker | :/ |
| 18:15.32 | Fisker | calls the CDC |
| 18:19.18 | fewyn | Ressy this why you should eat Airborne Gummies for a month before and after the con! |
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| 18:19.35 | fewyn | worked for me almost every year the last couple |
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| 18:26.41 | Torhal | Ressy: I stayed home yesterday with it. |
| 18:27.04 | Ressy | :( |
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| 18:32.26 | tlund | The latest Chinchilla, that removed support for moving the objectives tracker seems to have broken .. my objectives tracker :) |
| 18:32.36 | tlund | is ckknight on irc somewhere? |
| 18:32.55 | Fisker | Don't think he ircs much anymore |
| 18:33.24 | tlund | kinda want Chinchilla for midnight - kinda _need_ objectives tracker :) |
| 18:36.24 | foxlit | you'd think the battle.net wow pages would have a massive countdown to expansion launch somewhere. |
| 18:39.13 | Arrowmaster | Torhal, Ressy: i was getting it before i left |
| 18:40.49 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: I think I was, also - the last day I actually went back to my room and took a nap after breakfast. |
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| 18:42.11 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: you slept over half the trip |
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| 18:45.49 | Torhal | Maybe I got it early. I did have that three-day headache... |
| 18:46.33 | Fisker | I felt pretty bad the day after arriving figured it was jet lag |
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| 19:08.25 | Fisker | Hey Torhal BTW |
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| 19:16.22 | Torhal | hey Fisker |
| 19:16.35 | Fisker | :3 |
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| 19:27.43 | Primer | tlund: I presume you just want to move it? You have to use Move Anything now |
| 19:27.52 | Primer | because that's all Chinchilla did with it, IIRC |
| 19:28.18 | Primer | I see that is the case, after scrolling up some more |
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| 19:59.35 | tlund | Primer: no, something in my saved variables made chinchilla break it. deleted and re-did my settings and now it works. |
| 20:00.32 | tlund | So, I want to make a macro that accepts group invites and hides the popup, but if I do AcceptGroup() and StaticPopup_Hide("PARTY_INVITE") it gets declined. doing AcceptGroup() on its own works, but leaves the popup. |
| 20:01.08 | nevcairiel | you may want to programmatically click the accept button on the static popup |
| 20:01.19 | tlund | reading the wow ui source I think this is related to self.inviteAccepted not being set and wow calling DeclineGroup() when I close the popup |
| 20:01.23 | tlund | nevcairiel: exactly! :) |
| 20:01.29 | tlund | nevcairiel: so .. how do I do that? :) |
| 20:06.44 | tlund | I was hoping maby StaticPopup_OnClick(1,1) |
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| 20:08.17 | nevcairiel | StaticPopup1Button1:Click() perhaps |
| 20:08.29 | nevcairiel | assuming accept is the left-most button |
| 20:08.46 | tlund | yes! thanks, that worked :) |
| 20:08.49 | nevcairiel | probably a better way to also make sure that is the right popup etc |
| 20:09.17 | tlund | I am going to use this for some rudementary multiboxing tonight, just need to be able to accept invites, resses and summons |
| 20:09.35 | nevcairiel | arent there addons for this stuff :D |
| 20:09.38 | tlund | those should have accept as the lft buttons |
| 20:09.59 | tlund | there sure are, but they do ALOT of complicated stuff I don't have time to get into in 3 hrs |
| 20:10.11 | tlund | "Jamba" seems good, I am going to look into that later :) |
| 20:17.48 | mikma | nevcairiel: RegisterEvent("PARTY_INVITE_REQUEST") -> local frame = getglobal("StaticPopup"..i); if frame:IsVisible() and frame.which == "PARTY_INVITE" then StaticPopup_OnClick(frame, 1) end |
| 20:18.08 | nevcairiel | see, i said there would be a better way! |
| 20:18.15 | nevcairiel | also, getglobal is deprecated :d |
| 20:20.11 | mikma | yes, it is |
| 20:20.19 | mikma | but it's my ooooold addon anyway |
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| 20:29.40 | Semlar | no excuses |
| 20:29.41 | foxlit | what fires when you learn a mount nowadays? |
| 20:31.34 | nevcairiel | COMPANION_LEARNED |
| 20:35.50 | Lopeppeppy | That's what she said. |
| 20:42.10 | foxlit | er, gunship, come back! |
| 20:43.46 | foxlit | I wonder why this didn't happen back when this was progression |
| 20:44.36 | Simca | the fight was super heavily scripted, and it has broken down more and more with each expansion since wrath |
| 20:44.42 | foxlit | maybe we had warlocks. |
| 20:45.14 | Simca | if you have a party of two on 25 heroic, the fight plays every single scripted event at once |
| 20:45.17 | Simca | and you instantly win |
| 20:45.31 | Simca | along with getting a truckful of npc yelling in your ears |
| 20:47.19 | Fisker | Anyone remember that addon that did a lot of silly little automation things (auto-repair, auto-sell junk, etc?) |
| 20:47.23 | Fisker | and now I do |
| 20:47.25 | Fisker | damnit brain |
| 20:47.31 | Simca | Automaton |
| 20:47.41 | Simca | it was continued under a new name |
| 20:47.45 | Fisker | I was looking after Minutae? |
| 20:47.52 | Simca | yes |
| 20:48.07 | Fisker | oh ok then |
| 20:48.14 | Fisker | minutiae* |
| 20:48.18 | Simca | An Ace3 mod to automate some of the more tedious tasks in WoW. Inspired by the Ace2 mod Automaton, by weab and gxxam. |
| 20:48.44 | Simca | LeatrixPlus is also a popular alternative. |
| 20:48.44 | Fisker | Oh it's abandoned it appears :( |
| 20:48.59 | Semlar | i have my own autoaccept addon i just dump everything into |
| 20:49.15 | nevcairiel | for the two points you mentioned (auto-repair, auto-sell) i have a 15 line snippet of custom code |
| 20:50.50 | foxlit | auto-click-the-gas-release-valve. |
| 20:51.07 | foxlit | This marks the second time I forgot :( |
| 20:51.24 | Semlar | tries to calm foxlit down |
| 20:52.39 | Semlar | i really don't want to use existing macro slots for my addon, but i think trying to hook existing action buttons in the interface to call my macro text would be a nightmare with all the different action bar addons |
| 20:53.08 | nevcairiel | i always forget those too, if we're talking about icc |
| 20:53.09 | kullervo | foxlit: second? I ran that maybe 30 times total and remembered exactly twice |
| 20:53.20 | fewyn | noice VS is free now http://www.visualstudio.com/products/free-developer-offers-vs |
| 20:53.41 | foxlit | wrong class, so I have to play through it exactly twice now: once on 25H, once on 10H |
| 20:54.15 | nevcairiel | luckily i got the mount now, but still may want to do shadowmourne on a character that can carry it |
| 21:00.26 | foxlit | Semlar: write something anyway, I need to steal the solution to that later anyway. |
| 21:01.00 | Semlar | i basically want to let people write their own macrotexts that don't use macro slots but still let you put them on action buttons like normal |
| 21:01.24 | Semlar | and while it wouldn't be toooo difficult with the default ui, it might get tricky trying to support every addon |
| 21:02.27 | foxlit | and I basically want to override tooltip/icon feedback for /macro macros. |
| 21:02.30 | Semlar | i'd have to manually update the icon texture and cooldown for the button right? |
| 21:02.39 | foxlit | oh, cooldowns too. |
| 21:03.07 | Semlar | i'm assuming action buttons can't just figure out what macrotext is supposed to do and display that |
| 21:03.23 | Semlar | so you'd pretty much have to parse it yourself |
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| 21:03.57 | foxlit | have that plumbing already. |
| 21:04.23 | Semlar | then i guess the main difficulty is actually modifying the buttons to behave |
| 21:04.33 | Semlar | i have an idea for how to do that |
| 21:04.55 | foxlit | the main difficulty is that there are action buttons that are not created by opie. |
| 21:05.22 | foxlit | and the macro API focuses a little too much on spells/items you own. |
| 21:05.53 | fewyn | hrm i used to have an addon that would make item borders glow for pieces in other gear sets but i can't remember the name of it... anyone know? |
| 21:08.00 | nevcairiel | i know the combuctor has that as a feature, but its an entire bag addon |
| 21:08.11 | nevcairiel | s/the/that/ |
| 21:08.12 | Constie | I don't know, but that reminds me that I just noticed yesterday that if you search the default bags for the name of an equipment set then it shows items that belong to it. |
| 21:08.34 | fewyn | i use bagnon for my bags |
| 21:08.57 | nevcairiel | it may also have this then |
| 21:09.06 | fewyn | wait... there's an option that says to highlight them |
| 21:09.10 | fewyn | but they aren't highlighting :( |
| 21:10.15 | fewyn | https://github.com/tullamods/Bagnon/issues/285 |
| 21:10.19 | fewyn | known issue it seems |
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| 21:17.05 | foxlit | heh, integer overflow attempting to store 16508168192 in UnitFrame_UpdateThreatIndicator |
| 21:19.55 | karl_w_w | who do you think you are, archimedes? |
| 21:22.00 | Fisker | I'm getting baww overflow while updating my Nexus 5 foxlit :/ |
| 21:22.28 | Fisker | failed to allocate 1005154516 bytes |
| 21:22.28 | Fisker | error: update package missing system.img |
| 21:22.40 | Fisker | ripperoni |
| 21:23.16 | fewyn | oh man i just noticed they added an exact match check box to the ah? |
| 21:23.22 | nevcairiel | they did |
| 21:23.27 | fewyn | ~amazing~ |
| 21:23.36 | nevcairiel | only took them 10 years |
| 21:23.38 | fewyn | only took 10 years! |
| 21:23.41 | fewyn | jinx |
| 21:37.01 | Constie | ! |
| 21:38.31 | cawaker | wow the starcraft stage at blizzcon was intense |
| 21:39.02 | kd3 | I was floored the first time I walked in the arena. had never seen anything like that before |
| 21:39.27 | cawaker | the hearthstone one was amazingly awesome too |
| 21:41.07 | cawaker | interesting though how they seperated the SC players, but hearthstone they stuck them in the same room |
| 21:46.07 | Xandr | How intelligent is WoW's memory management? When I have 2 texture elements that both use the same physical texture file, but use different regions with SetTexCoord - does it keep the whole texture in memory twice? |
| 21:49.30 | Xandr | Just wondering whether it would be better to have only a few large files that contain multiple "sprites", or if it would be better to split them into multiple small files |
| 21:51.43 | Semlar | well, you're forced to use texture dimensions that are an exponent of 2 |
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| 21:52.11 | Semlar | so there's usually empty space on the image you could fill with something else |
| 22:05.23 | Cidan | Xandr iirc it only loads it once |
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| 22:06.19 | gtech | Hey what is the elipsis in lua addon code? |
| 22:06.32 | gtech | ie select(2,...) |
| 22:07.55 | Semlar | a list of the arguments passed to the function |
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| 22:09.22 | jnwhiteh | hi folks =) |
| 22:09.30 | jnwhiteh | I may be gone for roughly two weeks or so, visiting my family and working |
| 22:09.42 | jnwhiteh | if anyone needs anything please go out of band to contact me and email me directly |
| 22:09.50 | jnwhiteh | those that need to know how to get in touch with me |
| 22:09.50 | jnwhiteh | <3 |
| 22:09.54 | Thunder_Child | Have a good time. |
| 22:09.59 | Semlar | i'll send a smoke signal |
| 22:10.21 | Mr_Rabies | i'll send a fleet of carrier sloths |
| 22:10.23 | Thunder_Child | Brings new meaning to "Blowing smoke out your ass." |
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| 22:36.13 | Fisker | Stay safe jnwhiteh |
| 22:38.08 | Jamash | why is my PTR client updating? |
| 22:40.39 | karl_w_w | because you touch yourself at night |
| 22:40.45 | Simca | they issued a small exe update to PTR |
| 22:40.48 | Simca | and then reverted it again |
| 22:40.56 | Simca | maybe they reissued the reverted patch again |
| 22:42.10 | Simca | at blizzard, there is always somebody slamming the 'go' button while somebody else slams 'stop' |
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| 22:46.41 | Kesava | ... "Ground mounts are not allowed here" |
| 22:46.42 | Kesava | sorry what |
| 22:46.57 | kd3 | they don't want mammoths covering up khadgar |
| 22:46.59 | nevcairiel | its the dismount field around khadgar |
| 22:47.01 | kd3 | get about 20 yards away and you can remount |
| 22:47.17 | Kesava | yeah no i'm in stormwind |
| 22:47.44 | kd3 | o_O |
| 22:48.28 | gtech | lol |
| 22:49.02 | Jamash1 | where in Stormwind? |
| 22:49.07 | Kesava | anywhere |
| 22:49.10 | Kesava | anywhere in the world ever |
| 22:49.25 | Jamash | /reloadui |
| 22:49.33 | Kesava | i've relogged |
| 22:49.37 | Kesava | and restarted wow |
| 22:49.40 | Jamash | O_o |
| 22:49.43 | Kesava | and waiting 20 minutes before logging in again |
| 22:49.45 | Kesava | waited* |
| 22:49.57 | Jamash | maybe ground mounts are no longer allowed in Stormwind |
| 22:50.05 | Cidan | on live? |
| 22:50.28 | Jamash | oh wait you said anywhere |
| 22:50.39 | Kesava | yes |
| 22:50.45 | Jamash | are you at least level 20? |
| 22:50.55 | Kesava | ye |
| 22:50.56 | Kesava | s |
| 22:51.04 | Cidan | is anyone else on a mount? |
| 22:51.08 | Kesava | yes |
| 22:51.43 | Jamash | /disableaddons |
| 22:51.56 | Kesava | how dare you suggest such a thing |
| 22:52.26 | Kesava | next time i get in i'll try but i very much doubt it'll fix it |
| 22:52.57 | g0urra | so how do you get there? |
| 22:54.38 | kd3 | to draenor? get to the dark portal and hover near khadgar. you'll get a quest at 12:01 |
| 22:55.01 | g0urra | hm.. lots of people in org |
| 22:55.31 | kd3 | they remember last year, when you had to go to org/sw to head to pandaria |
| 22:55.51 | g0urra | heh |
| 22:56.01 | kd3 | s/year/launch/ |
| 22:57.31 | Kesava | oh what the fuck |
| 22:57.35 | Kesava | i queued for lfr to try to fix it |
| 22:57.42 | Kesava | i'm now in an instanced version of stormwind |
| 22:59.14 | Kesava | the main feature of which being the lack of water |
| 22:59.52 | g0urra | yeah server pretty much crashed |
| 23:00.30 | g0urra | the lag is insane. |
| 23:01.41 | g0urra | and server crash |
| 23:02.26 | g0urra | I GOT KICKED TO SHRINE |
| 23:02.28 | Primer | watching this dude streaming from EU...server crashed |
| 23:02.30 | g0urra | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF |
| 23:02.43 | Gnarfoz | I've spent the last 35 min between queue spot 18 and 15 |
| 23:02.47 | kullervo | everyone crashed |
| 23:02.47 | kd3 | shrine->org port->bl port in mage area->go try again |
| 23:02.50 | Gnarfoz | still queued :( |
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| 23:03.49 | g0urra | I'm glad I'm not on SSD, it doesn't render all mounts on the portal |
| 23:03.57 | fewyn | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8negZtIgH8 |
| 23:03.59 | fewyn | mmmm |
| 23:04.21 | Primer | g0urra: how can you say that! |
| 23:04.25 | Primer | write, technically |
| 23:04.31 | Primer | You always want SSD, always |
| 23:04.56 | Cidan | was there a patch released today/an event gearing up? |
| 23:05.14 | kd3 | warlords just launched 4 minutes ago in europe |
| 23:05.15 | fewyn | the... expansion? |
| 23:05.24 | Cidan | Oh, I see, got it. |
| 23:05.29 | g0urra | yay loading screen |
| 23:05.42 | g0urra | well cinematic |
| 23:05.45 | Cidan | I took tomorrow off work just to play WoW |
| 23:05.52 | Cidan | board meeting tomorrow too |
| 23:05.55 | Cidan | they'll live |
| 23:06.02 | Cidan | level 100 awaits |
| 23:06.09 | kd3 | eh, I'm not even bothering until my package gets here. I'll be well-rested for once |
| 23:06.18 | Fisker | Yeah this is nuts |
| 23:06.21 | Fisker | Might as well go sleep |
| 23:06.35 | Fisker | btw kd3 |
| 23:06.41 | Fisker | what kind of usb cable were you using? |
| 23:07.38 | kd3 | http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MQSMEEE |
| 23:09.18 | Fisker | It came with the battery pack? |
| 23:09.26 | kd3 | yep |
| 23:09.44 | Fisker | damn |
| 23:12.19 | Fisker | warlords of loadingscreen :( |
| 23:12.53 | Dagmar | kd3: You're playing Ingress now? |
| 23:13.16 | kd3 | I've had an account forever, but the battery pack was for blizzcon |
| 23:13.30 | Dagmar | Ahhh |
| 23:13.38 | Fisker | I forgot mine |
| 23:13.41 | Dagmar | You understand then why I asked about Ingress. Heh |
| 23:13.45 | kd3 | yes |
| 23:13.48 | Fisker | Because I was thinking about whether or not I could bring it on the carryon |
| 23:13.52 | Fisker | and I figured not so I forgot to pack it |
| 23:13.53 | Fisker | D: |
| 23:14.02 | Fisker | But it looks like they don't care about it |
| 23:14.04 | Dagmar | I just have a 7000mAh ZeroLemon directly connected on the phone. |
| 23:14.12 | kd3 | if it's in your carryon, you can. you can't put them in checked bags |
| 23:14.19 | Dagmar | So... if someone tries to mug me for my phone, I can beat them to death withit. |
| 23:14.22 | Fisker | why not kd3 ? |
| 23:14.23 | Fisker | O_o |
| 23:14.40 | kd3 | "zomg spontaneous battery combustion" |
| 23:14.42 | foxlit | puncture hazard. |
| 23:14.45 | kd3 | but that's more for laptop batteries |
| 23:14.53 | Fisker | ah |
| 23:15.04 | Dagmar | Fisker: Because Lithium-Ion batteries can't be easily xrayed and occasionally go blooey and release toxic hate smoke |
| 23:15.22 | Dagmar | ...especially when asshole baggage handlers throw bags overhand. |
| 23:15.43 | Dagmar | When in doubt, ship your shit Fed-Ex |
| 23:16.13 | Dagmar | It's less than the cost of an extra bag |
| 23:16.20 | Dagmar | ...and no one _throws_ your shit. |
| 23:17.15 | foxlit | It's cute that american airport security is paranoid about shoes, while european airport security wants to x-ray your ipad separately. |
| 23:17.54 | Fisker | In france the security guy had his hands down my underpants |
| 23:17.58 | Fisker | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 23:18.09 | Dagmar | kd3: Just remember those packs last a lot longer if you only charge them to full when you intend to use them the next day |
| 23:18.35 | kd3 | yah, I recharged mine after getting back and it's just going to sit on a shelf for a while until I need it |
| 23:18.38 | Dagmar | I am seeing some people with 20's get less life out of them than my 7 now |
| 23:18.49 | Dagmar | kd3: Charged it to full? |
| 23:18.55 | Dagmar | Don't let them sit around on a full charg |
| 23:19.12 | Dagmar | Drain it some way or other down to the 60-40% range. |
| 23:19.21 | Dagmar | _Then_ it can sit for half a year without degrading |
| 23:19.45 | Dagmar | These batteries are very finicky about being fully charged and fully discharged |
| 23:20.09 | Dagmar | ...but in the middle range area, they barely degrade at all |
| 23:20.43 | Dagmar | It'll stay awesome for less than a year if you're in the habit of having it sitting around fully charged |
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| 23:32.31 | Simca | <foxlit> It's cute that american airport security is paranoid about shoes |
| 23:32.51 | Simca | they were handing out pink slips to avoid that, and the guy purposefully withheld giving one to me as i walked by |
| 23:32.53 | Simca | lol |
| 23:33.02 | Simca | apparently i'm a natural terrorist |
| 23:33.37 | Jamash | FORRINER |
| 23:33.39 | Dagmar | Literacy will do that to ya'. |
| 23:36.52 | kd3 | oh, about the being unable to mount anywhere thing... "If you're prevented from mounting (anywhere), moving to Khadgar in Blasted Lands and back out should resolve it." |
| 23:39.01 | Kesava | i see |
| 23:39.09 | Kesava | well i can't really do that right now |
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| 23:43.36 | Industrial | in! |
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| 23:51.57 | Primer | Anyone know if it's possible to cancel a pet aura? |
| 23:52.10 | Primer | I want to be able to cancel my pet's Wrathstorm |
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| 23:57.13 | Cidan | kd3 oh my god that's amazing, having to walk to blasted lands from where ever you are |
| 23:57.20 | Cidan | doing things the hard way |
| 23:57.33 | kd3 | if you're in sw or org, just take the port. you can also take a taxi |
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| 23:57.51 | Cidan | yeah but if you're in like, thousand needles |
| 23:57.53 | Cidan | lol |
| 23:58.07 | kd3 | then hearth? |
| 23:58.10 | Cidan | SHH |
| 23:58.13 | Cidan | STOP RUNING MY FUN |
| 23:59.18 | Thunder_Child | No. |
