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| 00:24.12 | Cidan | went from ilevel 380 to 530 in like, a week |
| 00:24.17 | Cidan | that's just silly |
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| 00:29.51 | Mr_Rabies | i'm sure a lot of people are gonna go from about 480 to 600 in a week soon here soooo |
| 00:29.52 | Mr_Rabies | :p |
| 00:31.33 | tz | I'm gonna go from 586 to 590 in 10 levels most likely |
| 00:31.44 | tz | unless, you know, a couple of greens actuall are upgrades |
| 00:31.59 | tz | actually that said, the heirloom will go up |
| 00:32.00 | tz | hmm |
| 00:32.14 | kd3 | last time I made it through beta (to spires), I didn't see upgrades til the end of spires as a normal-geared SoO |
| 00:32.50 | tz | last time around I was still rocking dragon soul gear when going thru first MoP raids |
| 00:32.56 | tz | shrugs |
| 00:33.01 | tz | guess we'll see |
| 00:33.26 | tz | that said, if indeed you ARE 480, yes, you'll be 600 in a week :) |
| 00:35.08 | fewyn | grrr i installed win10 tech preview on laptop |
| 00:35.10 | fewyn | horrible idea |
| 00:35.18 | fewyn | wow crashes every tie |
| 00:35.19 | fewyn | time |
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| 00:40.59 | nebula169 | i've been running it on my laptop since they released it without problem |
| 00:41.26 | nebula169 | included a week long trip that i raided on it during without issue |
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| 00:42.55 | Mr_Rabies | same, tz, i only replaced my weapon at 89 and kept DS gear until i was 90 |
| 00:45.39 | tz | don't suppose anyone knows of an addon that can show text on a per-boss basis? like, per-encounter notes or whatever |
| 00:46.41 | Cidan | I need to run a normal of SoO |
| 00:46.48 | Cidan | I don't have my weapon yet |
| 00:46.55 | Cidan | I'm just barely geared enough for it now |
| 00:47.01 | Cidan | but it's so, fucking, long |
| 00:47.25 | tz | buy a heroic carry? surely they're promoting in trade every 30secs |
| 00:47.34 | Cidan | for like 10k g |
| 00:47.43 | tz | they're like 5k on thaurissan *shrug* |
| 00:48.45 | Cidan | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/eredar/Cidan/simple |
| 00:49.02 | Cidan | ...such ugly. |
| 00:49.08 | Cidan | I should really transmog |
| 00:54.08 | Mr_Rabies | tz: what kind of notes? |
| 00:54.37 | Mr_Rabies | jesus Cidan |
| 00:54.43 | tz | things like "use blah on whatever when it spawns" and whatnot |
| 00:54.45 | Mr_Rabies | if i didnt know better i'd say you were in tbc gear |
| 00:54.52 | tz | just text of your own choosing |
| 00:54.54 | Mr_Rabies | ah okay, check out angryassignments, tz |
| 00:55.02 | tz | hokay |
| 00:55.05 | Mr_Rabies | i dunno if it's exactly what you want but |
| 00:55.21 | Mr_Rabies | you can save notes on a per boss basis and then broadcast them to the raid, etc |
| 00:55.42 | tz | ah okay |
| 00:55.49 | tz | was more looking for something just for personal stuff |
| 00:56.03 | tz | 'cause I'm a retard and forget stuff half the time ;) |
| 00:56.24 | Mr_Rabies | it'll work for that too, but maybe too heavy for what you want |
| 00:56.33 | Mr_Rabies | worth a look nonetheless |
| 00:56.43 | tz | yeah just pulled it up |
| 00:57.13 | tz | looks pretty much what I want anyway |
| 00:57.36 | Mr_Rabies | my transmog pretty much defeats the purpose of the new models: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/llane/Raybeez/advanced |
| 00:57.49 | Mr_Rabies | i do have fingers, though! |
| 00:57.56 | Cidan | Mr_Rabies, yeah it's pretty ugly, isn't it? |
| 00:58.01 | fewyn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/velen/fewyn/simple |
| 00:58.04 | Mr_Rabies | instead of weird gloves with dividers on them |
| 00:58.07 | fewyn | my favourite rogue tier |
| 00:58.13 | Mr_Rabies | mittens, rather |
| 00:58.17 | Mr_Rabies | my favorite rogue tier is Dr. Doom |
| 00:59.38 | Mr_Rabies | http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/26078.jpg |
| 00:59.44 | Mr_Rabies | i guess it's more taskmaster |
| 00:59.51 | tz | seeing as oceanic armory is fucked, here's a screenshot of mine: http://i.imgur.com/icIynFZ.png |
| 01:00.19 | Mr_Rabies | http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100921182508/marveldatabase/images/6/69/Taskmaster_vs_Iron_Man.jpg |
| 01:03.13 | kullervo | Mr_Rabies: whoa that's a REALLY long arm |
| 01:03.48 | Mr_Rabies | perspective :p |
| 01:03.57 | kullervo | Mr_Rabies: or rather, artist failing at it |
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| 01:06.44 | Mr_Rabies | eh it's not that bad, it's stylized |
| 01:07.09 | Mr_Rabies | but yeah as a total picture it's kind of messed up |
| 01:07.18 | Mr_Rabies | either he's pointing the gun at the guard's back or his arm is really long |
| 01:07.47 | Ssateneth | i think its fail perspective |
| 01:07.51 | Ssateneth | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:08.05 | Ssateneth | artist should be fired |
| 01:09.04 | Mr_Rabies | that's not even that bad by comic standards |
| 01:09.17 | Mr_Rabies | you've got folks like rob liefeld and greg horn still getting work |
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| 01:10.35 | Mr_Rabies | here's an example of some of the better work from liefeld: http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1185274/XForce12.jpg (note the almost total lack of hands and feet in the image) |
| 01:10.56 | Mr_Rabies | the lengths he goes to to hide hands and feet is hilarious |
| 01:11.43 | Ssateneth | WTF IS WRONG WITH THEIR HANDS |
| 01:11.46 | Ssateneth | ARE THEY AMPUTEES?! |
| 01:12.26 | Mr_Rabies | that's an example of his art looking better than his average, too |
| 01:13.23 | Mr_Rabies | that's cover art of a handful of characters he created, when it's interior art of established characters it's a total nightmare |
| 01:13.41 | Mr_Rabies | the layout makes no sense, the art looks just...awful |
| 01:16.37 | tz | mmm, I think I'm gonna have to take angryassignments and strip out just to what I need |
| 01:16.38 | Mr_Rabies | this is what happens when liefeld tries to draw feet: http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/comic-covers/2012/07/DSK_Cv13.jpg |
| 01:16.39 | tz | ho hum |
| 01:17.02 | Mr_Rabies | also gotta love deathstroke's grip on that sword |
| 01:17.28 | Mr_Rabies | "i just palm this broadsword with one thumb right" |
| 01:19.06 | relaxok | strtrim(string[, chars]) - Trim leading and trailing spaces or the characters passed to chars from string. |
| 01:19.16 | relaxok | how would i implement that in lua using string.* |
| 01:19.17 | relaxok | ? |
| 01:20.05 | Semlar | probably gsub |
| 01:21.14 | Semlar | or maybe just match the part of the string between the starting and trailing characters |
| 01:22.04 | Semlar | like ^[chars]*(.*)[chars]$ |
| 01:27.32 | Semlar | assuming chars is a character set |
| 01:28.25 | Semlar | relaxok: return str:match(("^[%s]*(.-)[%s]*$"):format(chars or '%s', chars or '%s')) |
| 01:29.50 | Semlar | probably more efficient to concat the charsets instead of using format but whatever |
| 01:30.02 | Simca | format is generally a bad idea |
| 01:31.29 | Semlar | formats simca |
| 01:31.52 | relaxok | thanks |
| 01:31.58 | relaxok | i tried strtrim = string.trim |
| 01:32.00 | relaxok | which doesn't exist =D |
| 01:32.19 | Semlar | yeah i don't believe lua has a built in trim function |
| 01:32.36 | Semlar | but it's not terribly complicated to implement |
| 01:32.45 | relaxok | Industrial:match? |
| 01:32.46 | relaxok | err |
| 01:32.50 | relaxok | what's str:match? |
| 01:33.19 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/U5zTESV4 |
| 01:33.30 | relaxok | oh the string |
| 01:34.09 | Semlar | format is completely unnecessary here so i'd just rewrite it to concatenate the charset |
| 01:34.26 | relaxok | chars or __ means if chars isnt nil use it or ? |
| 01:34.45 | Semlar | if chars is nil it uses '%s' |
| 01:34.57 | relaxok | what part of that trims the white space? |
| 01:35.01 | Semlar | '%s' |
| 01:35.31 | Semlar | it's matching everything between the two character sets that you're providing |
| 01:35.49 | Semlar | so if it has leading whitespace (%s) then that's stripped out |
| 01:37.29 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/y2DHXi4J here's another way to write it |
| 01:37.53 | Semlar | i'm sure the real function has some sort of assert in there to make sure the provided arguments are valid |
| 01:38.31 | relaxok | surely |
| 01:38.43 | relaxok | holy god finally hooking up ConsoleExec |
| 01:38.46 | relaxok | glorious day |
| 01:38.49 | Semlar | and i also have no idea if their function lets you give it things like "%s" and has that trim whitespace or percentage signs and "s" |
| 01:39.33 | Semlar | it probably only matches literal characters |
| 01:39.41 | relaxok | that's okay |
| 01:39.51 | relaxok | that's the least of my problems at the moment |
| 01:39.55 | relaxok | D= |
| 01:40.06 | Semlar | the function i wrote doesn't work like that so you'd have to escape the special characters or split up the string or something |
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| 01:43.58 | relaxok | the original one you gave me just worked for the purposes i needed it for |
| 01:45.42 | Semlar | it would only really be a problem if you gave the function something with a percent sign in it |
| 01:46.01 | Semlar | well, or a + or something |
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| 01:51.15 | Semlar | relaxok: http://pastebin.com/w3qGjRtA that's probably a little safer |
| 01:52.10 | Semlar | damn i missed the brackets too |
| 01:52.20 | Semlar | stupid special characters |
| 01:57.23 | relaxok | want to give me a final version? |
| 01:57.24 | relaxok | =O |
| 01:57.46 | Semlar | i can't get it to actually escape the brackets inside of a character class for some reason |
| 02:00.17 | Semlar | oh duh |
| 02:01.27 | Mr_Rabies | uh |
| 02:01.29 | Mr_Rabies | [09:00][2][Zuaeka] LF rogue to loosen my box |
| 02:01.30 | Mr_Rabies | uh |
| 02:05.55 | Ssateneth | :P |
| 02:08.24 | Semlar | relaxok: http://pastebin.com/WRNvrWp4 |
| 02:10.23 | Semlar | that should escape all the things |
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| 02:10.56 | Semlar | i forgot to do chars = chars last time so it wasn't actually doing anything |
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| 02:38.33 | relaxok | Semlar: whee thx |
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| 03:51.40 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/69jFymf.jpg |
| 03:55.49 | Thunder_Child | Well that's technically a valid reason for removing something. |
| 03:59.35 | nebula169 | doesn't make it any less hurtful :( |
| 04:09.05 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/JMfA1Gy.jpg |
| 04:09.18 | Simca | apparently they can all see this flaw in me :( |
| 04:15.25 | kullervo | do I really have to write a script to rename the wow chatlog weekly or so |
| 04:15.35 | kullervo | these 2GB logs are a bit difficult to deal with |
| 04:17.34 | kullervo | wtb logrotate for windows |
| 04:18.02 | kullervo | damn that actually exists :D |
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| 04:27.58 | Guillotine | TWO DAYS :D |
| 04:33.23 | Iriel | Indeed, though thereâs an all-day work meeting and a long-ass drive between here and there |
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| 05:20.17 | Simca | 14 hrs here |
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| 05:46.47 | Simca | debugging compound statements by the pros 101, by simca: http://i.imgur.com/u8aK46H.png |
| 05:47.08 | Constie | Bork bork. |
| 05:48.23 | bluspacecow | http://www.executionists.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/tumblr_m4jpejfk341rpn7e8o1_500.jpg |
| 05:48.31 | Constie | My debug print lines are usually "did the thing" or "asdf". |
| 05:48.42 | bluspacecow | really? |
| 05:48.52 | bluspacecow | mine are âoh god oh god it burns" |
| 05:49.03 | nebula169 | mine are print(1) print(2) |
| 05:52.15 | Simca | this one is actually pretty baffling |
| 05:53.24 | Semlar | mine are invariably a string of curse words because by the time i'm printing debug statements i'm in a terrible mood |
| 05:53.34 | Simca | C_PetBattles.IsInBattle() and InCombatLockdown() are returning false and HasFullControl() is returning true, but i never get to 'std-bork abort' |
| 05:54.22 | Simca | oh derp, that means it is working |
| 05:54.44 | Semlar | ERROR: SUCCESS! |
| 05:55.09 | Simca | yeah, i didn't think it would work so i didn't account for that possibility :> |
| 05:55.38 | Semlar | a wise decision |
| 06:04.09 | Cidan | Iriel: all day work meeting? :( |
| 06:04.32 | Iriel | Cidan: yes, tomorrow - which is why Iâm not driving down to blizzcon until thursday. |
| 06:04.47 | Cidan | Where do you live? |
| 06:05.55 | Iriel | About 400 miles N of anaheim (i.e. SF Bay Area) |
| 06:06.03 | Cidan | ah okie |
| 06:06.27 | Cidan | I was just there a few weeks ago |
| 06:06.34 | Cidan | Not too much a fan, actually. |
| 06:07.07 | Cidan | Way more of an LA kind of guy, I guess. |
| 06:07.34 | Thunder_Child | Weirdo. |
| 06:07.40 | Iriel | Well, being not a fan of the bay area is like saying youâre not a fan of music with drums in.. Thereâs quite a bit of diversity. |
| 06:08.03 | Cidan | Fair enough, I only saw a very, very small section of it so I can't judge. |
| 06:08.03 | Iriel | I dislike some parts, like others. |
| 06:08.14 | Cidan | I was in Menlo Park, Stanford area, etc |
| 06:08.35 | Iriel | Im not a huge south bay fan, though bits of Stanford are nice. |
| 06:08.50 | Cidan | Yeah, the campus was cool enough. |
| 06:09.08 | Cidan | But I knew that if I ended up living there, I would live in SF, and then commute to Menlo |
| 06:09.15 | Cidan | Just... wasn't looking forward to that. |
| 06:09.27 | Iriel | yeah |
| 06:09.34 | Iriel | The commutes are possibly the worst part of living here. |
| 06:09.44 | Cidan | Yeah, absolutely seemed like it. |
| 06:09.58 | Iriel | I work in SF and live elsewhere, not quite as a bad as say commuting to mountain view, but still a drag |
| 06:10.13 | Cidan | Absolutely. |
| 06:10.16 | Cidan | Well, neat, :D |
| 06:10.36 | Cidan | If you ever visit LA (or any one for that matter) outside of blizzcon, let me know. |
| 06:12.07 | Iriel | Thus far, it happens very rarely. |
| 06:12.26 | Iriel | though someday I should probably visit LA proper |
| 06:12.35 | Iriel | rather than its outskirts |
| 06:12.41 | Thunder_Child | Not worth it. |
| 06:12.43 | Cidan | It's a great place to be, DTLA is great fun. |
| 06:12.47 | Cidan | Oh shush, TC |
| 06:12.50 | Thunder_Child | No |
| 06:12.59 | Cidan | why so bitter? |
| 06:13.01 | Thunder_Child | I don't think Primer likes it, and he works there. |
| 06:13.19 | Thunder_Child | Because driving in LA traffic evey day makes me want to kill someone. |
| 06:13.45 | Cidan | do you live here? |
| 06:13.57 | Thunder_Child | ...Yes |
| 06:14.05 | Iriel | I plan on leaving here at about 6 or 7 am so I can avoid that particular joy this time, I hope |
| 06:14.11 | Cidan | where about? |
| 06:14.19 | Thunder_Child | Near the Beverly Center. |
| 06:14.23 | Cidan | oh shit. |
| 06:14.24 | Cidan | that's bad. |
| 06:14.29 | Cidan | on 3rd? |
| 06:14.47 | Thunder_Child | Well not ON 3rd. but a few blocks from it. |
| 06:15.41 | Thunder_Child | 4th actually, but numbers don't actually go in order around here. |
| 06:15.53 | Cidan | no, no they don't. I don't blame you, I suppose. |
| 06:16.05 | Cidan | I don't face traffic issues, I drive a motorcycle |
| 06:16.13 | Cidan | so I guess I'm disconnected from that world |
| 06:16.15 | Iriel | You just face near death? |
| 06:16.19 | Cidan | more or less |
| 06:16.56 | Cidan | mostly more |
| 06:17.34 | Cidan | I was clipped on SM blvd in front of troubadour, drunk driver |
| 06:17.52 | Cidan | hit someone on PCH because they did an illegal u-turn in front of me |
| 06:17.56 | Cidan | etc. |
| 06:18.07 | Cidan | Thunder_Child: if you could live anywhere, where would you? |
| 06:19.01 | Thunder_Child | Cidan: Too situational. For example if I walked to work, I doubt I would care. |
| 06:19.34 | Cidan | where do you work? |
| 06:19.52 | Thunder_Child | Playa Vista |
| 06:20.40 | Cidan | oh |
| 06:20.44 | Cidan | you work not too far from me |
| 06:20.50 | Cidan | I'm over in venice, windward circle |
| 06:21.16 | Thunder_Child | I used to work in Venice, but Google wanted our building so they got it. |
| 06:21.24 | Cidan | oh shut up |
| 06:21.25 | Cidan | really? |
| 06:21.38 | Cidan | that building they are in now was yours? |
| 06:21.43 | Thunder_Child | Yea, they were accross the street and wanted more space |
| 06:21.48 | Thunder_Child | across* |
| 06:21.56 | Cidan | that's crazy, I've been there a billion times |
| 06:22.00 | Cidan | dude, :( |
| 06:23.04 | Thunder_Child | hmmm, last time I was at winward circle was late 90's. |
| 06:23.11 | Cidan | wow |
| 06:23.27 | Cidan | my building wasn't even there when you were there last |
| 06:23.50 | Thunder_Child | Doesn't surprise me. |
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| 06:34.32 | Iriel | sleeps. |
| 06:34.38 | Cidan | thinks abou tit. |
| 06:34.45 | Cidan | also thinks about it |
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| 06:39.34 | phelps | how are portrait icons made ? is it a 3d view ? |
| 06:39.37 | Shirik | I have a really weird question to ask |
| 06:39.43 | Cidan | no |
| 06:39.47 | Cidan | i will not touch your penis |
| 06:39.54 | Shirik | Hi Cidan where have you been? :D |
| 06:40.01 | Cidan | busy! |
| 06:40.03 | Cidan | I live in LA now! |
| 06:40.11 | Shirik | Also, lady threw her 6 yo son off a bridge... is this in national news (i.e., have any of you heard about this story?) |
| 06:40.20 | Cidan | no |
| 06:40.30 | Shirik | neat! I live in OR now! But you might have already known that |
| 06:40.31 | Semlar | i don't watch the news |
| 06:40.48 | Cidan | no I didn't! dude, I'm in OR like, every 3 months |
| 06:40.58 | Cidan | girlfriend's parents are there, and we go there a lot |
| 06:41.10 | Cidan | I was just in ashland actually |
| 06:41.16 | Shirik | I'm about an hour east of portland |
| 06:41.23 | Cidan | ha |
| 06:41.38 | Cidan | I'll be in portland for xmas, and Sisters for a part of it |
| 06:41.49 | Cidan | we should get food, beer! |
| 06:42.12 | Cidan | singapore street noodles! |
| 06:42.18 | Shirik | I am usually not in oregon for christmas, because the rest of my family still lives in VA :( |
| 06:42.35 | Shirik | and they refuse to have the entire family shipped out here for Christmas |
| 06:42.41 | Shirik | and live in my tiny apartment |
| 06:42.41 | Cidan | poop |
| 06:42.47 | Cidan | I haven't been back to VA since I left |
| 06:42.51 | Cidan | no more DC life for me |
| 06:42.56 | Shirik | that's probably a good thing |
| 06:43.01 | Shirik | west coast is so much better |
| 06:43.04 | Cidan | heh heh heh |
| 06:43.09 | Shirik | I'm considering a move to san diego though |
| 06:43.14 | Cidan | yes! |
| 06:43.17 | Cidan | I love SD! |
| 06:43.21 | Cidan | LOVE SD! |
| 06:44.12 | Cidan | what would you do out there? |
| 06:44.47 | Cidan | or if you're looking for a job in LA... |
| 06:47.30 | Shirik | I'm kinda just poking around right now at jobs |
| 06:47.34 | Shirik | I had an offer down there |
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| 06:52.19 | Cidan | well, you're a great coder dude |
| 06:52.30 | Cidan | if you ever want a gig in LA, lmk |
| 06:53.34 | ccox | SD - so everyone will have a place to crash during ComicCon! |
| 07:03.36 | tz | great, SUF is broken now |
| 07:03.39 | tz | >_< |
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| 07:04.32 | Cidan | uh |
| 07:04.33 | Cidan | works here |
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| 07:05.30 | tz | latest revision broke my frames, can't even open options menu |
| 07:06.27 | Cidan | 4.0.6? |
| 07:06.47 | tz | 4.0.6-4 |
| 07:07.44 | Cidan | hm |
| 07:07.55 | Cidan | def works here |
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| 12:01.52 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://pastebin.com || 6.0.x ToC: 60000 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || WoD beta access! WoWI: http://bit.ly/1smb4qM or Curse: http://goo.gl/eVsdYQ || BC UI Community Dinner Sign Up: http://bit.ly/1pqdONd |
| 12:17.27 | bluspacecow | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/462 |
| 12:17.29 | bluspacecow | lol |
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| 12:37.55 | Neffi | "Note that C_Timer.NewTimer and C_Timer.NewTicker are significantly more expensive than C_Timer.After" <- any idea how expensive we're talking? |
| 12:38.28 | Neffi | I see that AceTimer is using C_Timer.After along with a closure to on repeating timer, rather than using NewTicker. Is there a good reason for this? |
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| 12:39.38 | Neffi | ack, nevermind, NewTicker is not ok: " If callback throws a Lua error, the ticker will stop firing." |
| 12:44.56 | nevcairiel | the reason for this is that NewTicker adds its own closure and table and whatnot, so if i need better control (which I do), i rather avoid creating two closures! |
| 12:50.27 | Neffi | "NewTicker adds its own closure" <- oh well that's a little silly |
| 12:52.22 | Ssateneth | i heard there was a 'sploit with c_timer |
| 12:52.31 | Ssateneth | Could run protected functions :D |
| 12:52.43 | Ssateneth | got fix0red though in 19116 though |
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| 13:22.48 | Kalroth | ties Lopeppeppy's shoelaces, rolls Fisker in licked lollipops and throws him at Lopeppeppy |
| 13:23.03 | Lopeppeppy | Ooh la la, someone is frisky this morning. |
| 13:23.49 | Kalroth | Yes, it's Wednesday! |
| 13:24.38 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, is that all? |
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| 13:50.41 | Neffi | ~framexml |
| 13:50.41 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml |
| 13:51.36 | tlund | @project farmhud |
| 13:51.52 | tlund | wasn't that the command to get the URL for a project? |
| 13:56.21 | nebula169 | is brokt |
| 13:56.24 | nebula169 | blame Torhal |
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| 14:01.45 | Ressy | gonna be broke for a few days then I guess. heh |
| 14:02.08 | nevcairiel | even if he fixes it, it usually works for a couple hours and breaks again |
| 14:09.21 | Kalroth | curse that meddling Torhal |
| 14:10.15 | Lopeppeppy | And his damn dog. |
| 14:10.20 | Ressy | snickers |
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| 14:51.59 | Torhal | That bot isn't even in this channel. |
| 14:52.04 | Torhal | Weirdos. |
| 14:52.48 | nevcairiel | it used to be |
| 14:52.56 | Torhal | ... |
| 14:52.58 | Ressy | Torhal, when you leaving? |
| 14:53.04 | Torhal | Ressy: Tomorrow |
| 14:53.07 | Ressy | ahh |
| 14:53.20 | Torhal | nevcairiel: It's only ever been in #curseforge, #wowace, and #wowuidev-commits |
| 14:53.27 | Torhal | Never #wowuidev |
| 14:53.33 | nevcairiel | i swear it was in here at some point |
| 14:53.51 | Torhal | o.O |
| 15:03.41 | bluspacecow | ⦠|
| 15:03.50 | bluspacecow | *noms Torhal* |
| 15:03.54 | Alram | Torhal is leaving? |
| 15:03.55 | Alram | noooooooooooooooo |
| 15:03.58 | bluspacecow | wat |
| 15:03.59 | Torhal | Alram: BlizzCon. |
| 15:04.03 | Alram | oh okay |
| 15:04.06 | Torhal | lol |
| 15:04.12 | bluspacecow | NEVA! |
| 15:06.57 | Ressy | yays! |
| 15:06.58 | Ressy | Blizzcon |
| 15:07.08 | Ressy | stupid laptop.. finish transferring faster |
| 15:10.21 | kd3 | welp, time for me to head to the airport. off to LA! |
| 15:10.49 | Ressy | oooh! |
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| 15:31.49 | Lopeppeppy | la la la la homicide. |
| 15:36.32 | jleclanche | Lopeppeppy: having fun? |
| 15:39.58 | Lopeppeppy | not yet, no blood. |
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| 16:37.45 | VIad1 | ugh... won and pushed end turn in one turn, now game stuck on blurry screen without results :/ |
| 16:37.51 | VIad1 | I hope the game didn't just get ignored |
| 16:37.55 | VIad1 | nice - time out |
| 16:37.56 | VIad1 | lol |
| 16:38.03 | VIad1 | thanks blizz |
| 16:40.22 | VIad1 | can clients force end a session? |
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| 16:47.09 | VIad1 | seems like people can't handle aggro mage now :p |
| 16:47.18 | VIad1 | playing low cost flood mage, same like a year ago, working fine |
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| 17:04.47 | Xandr | There is no way to change the color of the outline when I add the outline flag to a fontobject, right? |
| 17:05.12 | Semlar | i think it's just black |
| 17:06.02 | Xandr | meh :( |
| 17:06.45 | nevcairiel | tell Humbedooh, he'll write a ttf parser and font rasterizer in lua |
| 17:06.54 | Humbedooh | >_> |
| 17:08.43 | karl_w_w | some asshole neighbour of mine changed his wifi channel |
| 17:11.16 | Humbedooh | no more free interwebs? :( |
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| 17:33.55 | Torhal | karl_w_w: Conflicting with your channel, eh? |
| 17:34.25 | nevcairiel | would have to be really close neighbours for that to matter |
| 17:59.14 | karl_w_w | yeah Torhal |
| 18:00.12 | karl_w_w | i had 0/4 bars of wifi signal despite being 3 metres from my router, nevcairiel |
| 18:01.00 | nevcairiel | then either your router sucks, or your neighbour has one way outside of what would be allowed under our german law at least :d |
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| 19:50.21 | Semlar | foxlit: could you make a version of the unpacker function that just unpacked a string with the provided struct instead of returning an iterator |
| 19:55.19 | Semlar | right now i'm just telling it to unpack 1 row with a stride the size of the length of the data |
| 20:41.30 | Primer | Anyone watch this 20 DK mythic SoO clear? |
| 20:41.54 | Primer | it was fucking amazing |
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| 20:43.18 | Semlar | zerg rush |
| 20:48.10 | nebula169 | considering shit dies in under a minute, i'm not terrible surprised |
| 20:48.16 | nebula169 | terribly* |
| 21:01.06 | Primer | So I find myself needing to build a new home server, one that'll just run Linux with a qemu-kvm guest that'll need a lot of memory. Thing is, I don't want to spend too much money. I don't suppose anyone has any recommendations for a mb/cpu/32g mem combo, or know of a site with such recommendations? |
| 21:01.24 | Primer | I've tried googling, and have arrived at a few freenas forums for builds |
| 21:02.36 | Semlar | um i would just get on newegg and find some stuff that's compatible |
| 21:04.19 | Thunder_Child | http://pcpartpicker.com/ That's good and it tells you if it is compatible. Although I would doublecheck everything. |
| 21:10.28 | Dagmar | Primer: You want AMD 4-core or 6-core because of VM, a motherboard with four DIMM slots, you will want to buy the fastest RAM that the CPU can handle (and make sure the motherboard lists it as a supported speed). NewEgg would be the place I'd go but... 32g != "not a lot of money" |
| 21:10.44 | Dagmar | RAM is going to be _by far_ the most expensive part of that |
| 21:11.36 | Dagmar | You should probably go with a Phenom over one of the APU models because for that, a GPU in the CPU package is just going to be a waste of space |
| 21:15.06 | Thunder_Child | That's going to limit the ram. |
| 21:15.28 | Semlar | 32 gigs would be at least $300 |
| 21:18.08 | Semlar | and bare minimum you need a case, a motherboard, a cpu, ram, a hard drive and a power supply |
| 21:18.33 | Thunder_Child | Could technically be done w/o a case. |
| 21:18.41 | Semlar | >_> |
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| 21:19.29 | Thunder_Child | Hi, my name is TC and I am pedantic. |
| 21:20.03 | Dagmar | What's going to limit the RAM? |
| 21:20.13 | Thunder_Child | Age of the chip? |
| 21:20.16 | Semlar | architecture probably |
| 21:20.37 | Dagmar | Neither. There's plenty of Phenom and APU chips that do dual-channel with four slots |
| 21:20.47 | Dagmar | Like, all of them as far as I know |
| 21:21.16 | Thunder_Child | There is more than just number of channels. |
| 21:21.20 | Dagmar | Board with more than four DIMM sockets get expensive with a quickness |
| 21:22.13 | Thunder_Child | That I would not know about, I always spend a lot on a new machine. |
| 21:22.31 | Dagmar | Unless he's running a MySQL server at home that needs lightning-fast performance, 2400 and dual-channel will be more than fine |
| 21:22.57 | Dagmar | ...but then he'd probably be looking for even more RAM than just 32gb. |
| 21:23.42 | Dagmar | I tend to go cost-effective, and then buy spares to keep on hand. |
| 21:27.53 | Constie | Does http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/SPELL_UPDATE_USABLE include when spells get locked out from interrupts? |
| 21:28.35 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/gmail-will-give-anyone-an-invite-to-inbox-for-one-hour-1655095250 |
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| 21:32.40 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: Holy hell. Thanks for that tip |
| 21:32.47 | Thunder_Child | ^_^ |
| 21:39.16 | Dagmar | I've been waiting a few weeks now. The RNG has not been working in my favor |
| 21:40.03 | nevcairiel | its been out for two weeks, you can't have waited that long :p |
| 21:43.55 | Dagmar | I sent off an invite request the first day that mentioned it publicly. |
| 21:44.16 | Semlar | i don't even want an invite, what's the point of this |
| 21:44.22 | Dagmar | ...and considering I've got people inside Google, I was even waiting for that to happen |
| 21:44.42 | nevcairiel | i got access, but i hate it |
| 21:44.44 | nevcairiel | so i dont use it |
| 21:44.56 | Semlar | turn your email into twitter? |
| 21:45.44 | Dagmar | I'm on a jillion security lists and it would be ridiculously handy to be able to button-mask follow-up research items |
| 21:46.09 | Semlar | you can already tag things in gmail |
| 21:46.37 | Dagmar | Tagging it one thing. Todo lists are another entirely. |
| 21:46.38 | nevcairiel | i hate all these movements towards "smart" everything, i can organize my mail just fine, i don't want to spend months trying to teach an algorithm how i like it |
| 21:47.27 | Constie | I just don't get enough email that it would be of any use at all. |
| 21:47.36 | nevcairiel | click mail, select "Add to Tasks" button, tada, todo list |
| 21:59.26 | Primer | Dagmar: yes, I understand that 32g of ram is hardly cheap, but then that's not the same as 32g of ECC |
| 21:59.33 | Primer | and a proper server board, etc. |
| 21:59.59 | Primer | I figured I'd probably end up spending close to $500 |
| 22:00.13 | Primer | and all I need are mb/cpu/mem |
| 22:00.26 | Dagmar | That'll get you the type of hardware I was talking about |
| 22:00.43 | Dagmar | I just wound up buying basically that last month |
| 22:01.01 | Primer | care to share your specs? |
| 22:01.39 | Primer | Thunder_Child: thanks for the URL |
| 22:01.44 | Primer | I'm looking into that too |
| 22:03.39 | Primer | oh wow, this site's pretty cool |
| 22:04.09 | farmbuyer | what's the magic incantation to make sure macros/etc are all stored client-side? I thought I had it written down somewhere, but I am wrong. |
| 22:04.45 | Primer | farmbuyer: I have it set in my config.wtf, sec |
| 22:05.00 | nevcairiel | i think it changed in 6.0 |
| 22:05.08 | nevcairiel | they split the one cvar into multiple or something |
| 22:05.31 | Primer | well, I have these: SET synchronizeBindings "0" SET synchronizeConfig "0" SET synchronizeSettings "0" |
| 22:05.43 | Primer | I recall there was a 4th |
| 22:05.49 | farmbuyer | they did, but I thought I remembered reading that they still had one cvar that would forcibly set all of the others at once |
| 22:05.54 | Primer | but those are pre 6.0, if indeed they changed it |
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| 22:07.29 | farmbuyer | I'll toss those lines in and see how their backwards compat code is :-) |
| 22:07.32 | farmbuyer | thanks! |
| 22:07.37 | Primer | well |
| 22:07.45 | Primer | one is for macros, others for keybinds, etc. |
| 22:08.04 | Primer | actually, I might have omitted the macro one |
| 22:08.20 | Primer | http://wowpedia.org/CVar_synchronizeSettings |
| 22:08.30 | Primer | err |
| 22:08.31 | Primer | http://wowpedia.org/CVar_synchronizeMacros |
| 22:08.34 | Primer | so yeah |
| 22:08.36 | Primer | that one |
| 22:08.49 | farmbuyer | aha, Settings forces the other three, excellent |
| 22:09.08 | Primer | ahh right |
| 22:09.15 | Primer | I guess I should fix that |
| 22:09.43 | nevcairiel | that page hasnt been edited since 2011, so if something changed in 6.0, dont trust it unconditionally ;) |
| 22:09.56 | farmbuyer | heh, fair enough :-) |
| 22:10.29 | Primer | damn, looking at $300 just for memory |
| 22:10.57 | nevcairiel | just be happy you dont want/need ddr4, or you would spend twice that |
| 22:13.14 | farmbuyer | holy balls, this is the first time I've logged in since the new character models went live |
| 22:13.28 | farmbuyer | my original forsaken toon now looks like michael jackson >< |
| 22:13.45 | Primer | All my female toons ended up looking sad |
| 22:14.30 | Constie | The only thing I don't like about my character's new model is the face, but that's what engineering goggles transmog is for. |
| 22:14.36 | A-KO^^ | anyone got a blizzcon ticket available? |
| 22:14.39 | A-KO^^ | PM pls |
| 22:14.40 | A-KO^^ | <3 |
| 22:14.47 | A-KO^^ | I'm going, but need one for a friend for Saturday... |
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| 22:19.43 | Primer | hrmm, so this machine I currently have actually supports up to 32g of ram, but it'd be at "DDR266 SDRAM" (Yes, it's an old ass machine) |
| 22:20.50 | nevcairiel | seriously, ddr1? thats really old-ass |
| 22:20.58 | nevcairiel | good luck finding big modules for those these days |
| 22:21.06 | Primer | it's a dual dual core opteron |
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| 22:21.20 | Primer | 2 physical cpus |
| 22:21.36 | Primer | http://pastebin.com/96d384Bs |
| 22:22.15 | Primer | sigh, I suppose I could just get 16g and it'd be fine |
| 22:22.41 | nevcairiel | ddr2 became widespread like 2004-2005, so yeah, that box must be old :p |
| 22:22.44 | Primer | and continue to use lxc instead of qemu-kvm |
| 22:23.09 | Primer | the cpu doesn't support the instruction set for kvm, IIRC |
| 22:23.43 | nevcairiel | well if you want actual virtualization, you will need a cpu with hardware virtualization support |
| 22:24.07 | Primer | lxc's been working fine |
| 22:24.14 | Primer | I just don't like seeing the processes on the host |
| 22:26.11 | nevcairiel | people need to stop calling such containers a "vm" :D |
| 22:26.16 | nevcairiel | its a glorified chroot! |
| 22:26.31 | Semlar | i am chroot |
| 22:26.56 | farmbuyer | I'm smoking a chroot |
| 22:27.01 | Primer | well, I never called it a vm |
| 22:27.10 | Primer | in fact, this was a chroot before |
| 22:27.28 | Primer | lxc is nicer in that the outside stuff is isolated from the inside |
| 22:27.33 | Primer | just not the other way around |
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| 23:07.25 | Primer | Thunder_Child: really digging this site you linked |
| 23:07.33 | Primer | pcpartpicker |
| 23:07.40 | Thunder_Child | Primer: Good. I used it for my last syste, |
| 23:07.43 | Thunder_Child | system* |
| 23:07.49 | Primer | http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VXcbcf |
| 23:07.55 | Primer | going commodity |
| 23:08.04 | Primer | this is about what I was hoping to spend |
| 23:08.17 | Primer | also going with only 16g of ram for now |
| 23:09.03 | Primer | I also overrode 2 items to go to newegg |
| 23:09.09 | Primer | since I have mass credit there |
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| 23:10.53 | Primer | doh, that motherboard only has 2 memory slots... |
| 23:11.11 | Primer | I was hoping to leave room for expansion, but I forgot to factor that in |
| 23:16.49 | Primer | damn, factored more stuff in and now it's almost $500 |
| 23:18.24 | Primer | it's actually over $500, but with a mail in rebate...bah |
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| 23:23.02 | Thunder_Child | Don't forget about tax. |
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| 23:28.56 | Primer | yeah, that's another $50...fuck |
| 23:30.09 | Fisker | Air lines should never have perfected such means of torture |
| 23:31.16 | Cidan | suddenly, Heroes of the Storm shows up on my bnet launcher. |
| 23:31.21 | Cidan | well, okay then. |
| 23:36.53 | Primer | sigh... $555.87 out the door, with $20 mail in rebate, but that's because I wanted dual LAN in case I decide to got back to making this my home NAT box |
| 23:37.12 | Primer | In which case I'd be dual NATing too...fucking verizon |
| 23:39.44 | Primer | and...OOM |
| 23:40.05 | Primer | who'd have ever thought 8g of ram wasn't enough? |
| 23:40.23 | fewyn | 8gb of ram isn't enough |
| 23:40.25 | Primer | good thing it killed tomcat and not postgres |
| 23:44.03 | Cidan | why dual nat |
| 23:44.05 | Cidan | on verizon |
| 23:44.07 | Cidan | you have fios? |
| 23:44.28 | Thunder_Child | I do. |
| 23:44.40 | Thunder_Child | Wait, no. I lied |
| 23:44.50 | Thunder_Child | I have U-Verse, the shittier of the two. |
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| 23:50.37 | Jamash | sup dooders |
| 23:51.58 | farmbuyer | oh hey, I can throw out all these items that are in the toybox now |
| 23:51.59 | farmbuyer | duh |
| 23:53.47 | Thunder_Child | Jamash: The sky. |
| 23:54.10 | Jamash | the sky is in every direction |
| 23:54.21 | Jamash | except, oddly, up, if you're in low earth orbit |
| 23:55.19 | Thunder_Child | Then it doesn't count since it needs to be 'from earth.' |
