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| 01:51.06 | MiRai | I'm trying to alter the size of an icon with SetScale, but apparently I'm doing it wrong - http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Z9cu1TDa |
| 01:51.25 | MiRai | This isn't my addon, but I've added the path to SetTexture which shows up just fine, but I also added the SetScale line |
| 01:51.30 | MiRai | but I get an error |
| 01:51.41 | MiRai | telling me SetScale is a nil value |
| 01:52.21 | Simca | are you trying to make the icon more zoomed in while keeping the same size? |
| 01:52.31 | Simca | or actually just change its size and position |
| 01:52.44 | Simca | because you're better off using SetPoint for the latter scenario |
| 01:52.59 | MiRai | I'd like to just make it bigger |
| 01:53.03 | MiRai | >_> |
| 01:54.28 | Simca | then you're going to want to use SetSize and/or SetPoint |
| 01:55.15 | Semlar | this is the whole code? |
| 01:55.27 | MiRai | no, but it's the only portion I'm editing and that's the entire block of it |
| 01:55.33 | MiRai | if I don'ta dd the SetScale line everything works just fine |
| 01:55.38 | MiRai | don't add* |
| 01:55.42 | Simca | the frame declaration for the mail frame is missing so we can't see what you're inheriting |
| 01:55.47 | Simca | which is pretty relevant here |
| 01:55.48 | MiRai | it's the outdated, but still functional, QuseMap addon |
| 01:56.16 | MiRai | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MMfazrN0 |
| 01:56.20 | MiRai | there's the entire file |
| 01:56.44 | MiRai | I don't understand why I can't use SetScale? I'm no Lua guru by any means, but it seems pretty straightforward, no? |
| 01:56.53 | Semlar | textures don't have a setscale method |
| 01:57.05 | MiRai | GDI |
| 01:57.47 | Simca | it wouldn't make sense if they did |
| 01:57.55 | Simca | SetSize is literally the same thing in this case |
| 01:58.18 | Simca | (well, it takes 2 args instead of 1, but yeah) |
| 01:58.52 | Simca | local width, height = MiniMapMailIcon:GetSize(); MiniMapMailIcon:SetSize(width * 1.2, height * 1.2); |
| 01:59.12 | Simca | assuming it is anchored in a way that allows that kind of change |
| 01:59.23 | MiRai | I see... I didn't realize SetSize was a thing |
| 01:59.33 | Semlar | it's the same as SetWidth and SetHeight |
| 01:59.40 | MiRai | as someone who edits video and some image stuff... I look for scale first |
| 01:59.46 | MiRai | since it makes perfect sense to me ;) |
| 02:00.09 | Semlar | i don't recommend using SetScale in most cases anyway because it messes with the anchor offsets |
| 02:00.14 | MiRai | and there is no page on WoWPedia for SetSize, so I was confused when you said I should use it heh |
| 02:00.18 | Simca | ah, well basically every element here inherits its methods from Region |
| 02:00.34 | Semlar | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Texture |
| 02:01.15 | MiRai | wowprogramming.com lost the coin toss when I was going to pick which site to go to |
| 02:01.35 | Simca | it has better widget API pages |
| 02:01.35 | MiRai | anyway, SetSize is working great - Thanks ;) |
| 02:05.24 | Simca | yup np |
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| 02:57.32 | Simca | lol kd3 are you watching this game |
| 02:57.40 | Simca | i've never seen that many spore crawlers |
| 02:58.12 | kd3 | eesh |
| 03:01.03 | kd3 | wait, what, just noticed the clock. a 50 min game? insanity |
| 03:02.01 | Simca | he needs more high templars |
| 03:05.54 | fewyn | yeah |
| 03:05.58 | fewyn | it's pretty insane kd3 |
| 03:06.01 | fewyn | been watching it all day |
| 03:06.09 | Xuerian | Who are we weatching? |
| 03:06.14 | fewyn | zest vs life |
| 03:06.15 | kd3 | zest v life |
| 03:06.18 | fewyn | http://www.twitch.tv/wcs |
| 03:06.26 | fewyn | here we go |
| 03:06.27 | Xuerian | Thanks :3 |
| 03:06.32 | kd3 | wow |
| 03:06.33 | fewyn | this game might be over |
| 03:06.40 | kd3 | it's done |
| 03:06.44 | kd3 | refresh, you're behind |
| 03:06.48 | fewyn | gg zest |
| 03:06.54 | fewyn | i'm a few moment behind :( |
| 03:07.01 | fewyn | damn you twitch |
| 03:07.10 | fewyn | man that had to be grueling |
| 03:07.17 | fewyn | mentally |
| 03:09.42 | kd3 | eh, here's what the blizzcon badges look like this year: https://twitter.com/SirScoots/status/528743946479206400/photo/1 |
| 03:11.51 | fewyn | not much different from previous yuears |
| 03:12.50 | pompy | is ZAM not doing a party this year? |
| 03:13.10 | kd3 | the wowhead/wowinsider party is at the anabella, like in years past |
| 03:13.29 | kd3 | potato quality, but here's all the badges I have: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvGpokDCcAEOVai.jpg:large |
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| 03:17.18 | pompy | kd3: is news about the party posted anywhere? cant find anything |
| 03:17.42 | kd3 | http://www.hestiahthedruid.com/2014/10/blizzcon-off-site-events-calendar/ |
| 03:18.04 | fewyn | pompy: wowhead has it posted on their homepage right now i think |
| 03:18.31 | kd3 | http://www.wowhead.com/news=243561/blizzcon-2014-wowhead-party-and-virtual-ticket-giveaway |
| 03:23.02 | fewyn | man this life vs zest series |
| 03:23.03 | fewyn | is just |
| 03:23.05 | fewyn | crazy |
| 03:23.11 | kd3 | no kidding |
| 03:24.26 | fewyn | i was thinking about going to bed |
| 03:24.29 | fewyn | but now i dont want to |
| 03:24.38 | kd3 | you've got an extra hour of sleep, you can stay up |
| 03:25.16 | fewyn | i have a raid 12 ho...13 hours from now |
| 03:25.27 | fewyn | plenty of time! |
| 03:29.14 | kd3 | cannon rush, here we go |
| 03:29.49 | kd3 | or not, meh |
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| 03:53.05 | Simca | there's nothing useful in this taint log, right? http://i.imgur.com/uJDEq0L.png |
| 03:53.48 | Simca | (using /target X is throwing action forbidden errors blaming Ace3) |
| 03:55.55 | Simca | I can replicate it now and I see the trigger - if you type "/tar " and then hit tab to autocomplete it |
| 03:56.03 | Simca | and then fill the NPC out |
| 03:56.05 | Simca | it will taint |
| 03:56.15 | Simca | probably Prat tainting via autocomplete |
| 04:00.22 | Simca | yep |
| 04:00.25 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/Aqr2iYE.png |
| 04:10.17 | Simca | actually, that isn't it; the taint happens a few seconds before that, when Prat uses AceHook to autocomplete, and that's why it blames Ace for the taint |
| 04:50.39 | Shirik | Fisker: why did you not come to first saturday? |
| 04:51.06 | Fisker | maybe I did Shirik |
| 05:13.00 | Semlar | taints simca |
| 05:13.27 | Fisker | defends Simca |
| 05:13.40 | Semlar | no takebacks |
| 05:15.46 | Fisker | There is nothing to be taken back |
| 05:15.54 | Semlar | then it shouldn't be a problem |
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| 06:01.10 | Simca | hmm |
| 06:01.40 | Simca | I added this line using GameTooltip:AddLine() during its own OnTooltipSetUnit script - http://i.imgur.com/L8Svyr9.png |
| 06:01.54 | Simca | it is nice except... why is it so close to the previous line height-wise |
| 06:07.53 | Simca | huh |
| 06:08.18 | Simca | when i change GameTooltip:AddLine("Safari Hat buff not active!", 1, 0, 0) to GameTooltip:AddDoubleLine("Safari Hat buff not active!", " ", 1, 0, 0) |
| 06:08.22 | Simca | the height is fine |
| 06:08.24 | Simca | whatever |
| 06:09.04 | Simca | if i had a dollar for every time the API was weird i'd be making more money than Activision Blizzard |
| 06:34.34 | mikma | simca: well you need to do :Show() after AddLine anyway |
| 06:35.06 | Semlar | i think addline works differently than adddoubleline |
| 06:35.27 | mikma | what i did was check all the lines (except the one i add) for max width and then just SetWidth :P |
| 06:35.53 | Simca | mikma: I stole Blizzard's OnTooltipSetUnit script with GetScript, added my line, then ran their original script |
| 06:36.00 | mikma | but anyway tooltips are pretty horrible. I got odd problems with my miniTip, sometimes the tooltips for characters are disappearing at the same moment they are being shown |
| 06:36.04 | Simca | so that's before show is even called |
| 06:36.32 | Semlar | why bother with their script |
| 06:37.10 | mikma | semlar: hey dude, got the script saved so you could update navi to 6.0? |
| 06:37.11 | Simca | presumably they do important things there |
| 06:37.21 | Simca | or in case other addons do the same thing I do |
| 06:37.34 | Semlar | you can add your line after they do their thing |
| 06:37.51 | Semlar | you don't need to call their function |
| 06:37.52 | Simca | why, that just means i have to call Show() myself and that will fire all the events again |
| 06:38.15 | mikma | HookScript("OnShow",function(self) self:AddLine("Asses and booties!") end) |
| 06:39.05 | Semlar | mikma: the script i wrote was designed to extract that information from the mpqs |
| 06:39.30 | Semlar | with the casc files i have to extract all of the relevant files |
| 06:39.31 | mikma | semlar: but, do you still have the script so you could do it again with latext expansion? because, navi is pretty imba |
| 06:39.45 | Semlar | yes i could do it again |
| 06:40.05 | mikma | if that's not too much of a problem i and my wife would really appreciate it |
| 06:40.13 | mikma | because, it's just that good for finding places |
| 06:40.24 | Semlar | i'll look into it |
| 06:40.30 | mikma | thanks :) |
| 06:40.42 | Semlar | i'd have to 1. extract all the files and 2. fix the script to not read the files directly from the mpqs |
| 06:40.58 | Semlar | and i don't think the files are going to fit on my ssd |
| 06:41.32 | Semlar | there's an absurd amount of data |
| 06:41.58 | Simca | what does your script do? |
| 06:42.20 | Semlar | it reads all of the terrain files and wmos and stuff and maps out where everything is |
| 06:43.05 | Semlar | that particular script basically just tells you where an area name is.. like if you type it into a search it pins it on the map |
| 06:43.16 | mikma | maybe couple of screenshots are in order |
| 06:43.17 | mikma | moment |
| 06:43.23 | Semlar | at least i think that's what it did |
| 06:43.27 | mikma | it does |
| 06:43.33 | Simca | in CASC, mapping out where things are is redundant |
| 06:43.44 | Simca | a filename or MD5 is required for extraction |
| 06:44.17 | Semlar | in game locations on the map |
| 06:44.28 | Simca | oh |
| 06:44.37 | mikma | just wait, i'll screenshot this |
| 06:44.42 | Simca | I think Alram wrote a tool to do exactly that |
| 06:44.43 | Semlar | like "where's the valley of honor" |
| 06:44.59 | Simca | Alram: wake up |
| 06:45.01 | Semlar | and it brings up the zone for you |
| 06:45.09 | Semlar | i don't need anyone's tools! |
| 06:45.18 | Semlar | i wrote this more than a year ago |
| 06:45.24 | Simca | well it works for CASC, i presume |
| 06:45.54 | Semlar | if he has something that lets my python script read directly out of the CASC files then i'm interested |
| 06:46.07 | Semlar | because extracting the data before reading the files is dumb |
| 06:46.50 | Simca | the data is compressed, both in CASC and in MPQ formats - wouldn't you always have had to extract first? |
| 06:46.53 | Simca | at least into memory |
| 06:47.54 | Semlar | yes, but not to my hard drive because it's like 50gb of dat |
| 06:47.55 | Semlar | a |
| 06:48.33 | Semlar | and more importantly, i wouldn't have to delete and re-extract the entire thing every time it's updated |
| 06:48.53 | mikma | http://oi58.tinypic.com/j9yngl.jpg |
| 06:49.00 | Semlar | i was using stormlib but i can't read CASC directly from python any more |
| 06:49.03 | Simca | well, you still would, it just wouldn't put the extracted data onto the hard drive |
| 06:49.15 | Primer | sigh, so WoW crashed and now my custom chat tabs are gone... |
| 06:51.07 | Primer | Anyone know what file has that? |
| 06:51.15 | Simca | you should be able to do what you want with foxlit's LuaCASC using Lunatic Python |
| 06:51.49 | Simca | that's probably the easiest solution for a python script anyway |
| 06:52.02 | Semlar | i'm not sure how fast that would be |
| 06:52.20 | Simca | you're using a scripting language, clearly speed wasn't a primary concern |
| 06:53.04 | Semlar | when your script takes 20 minutes to execute it starts to matter |
| 06:54.01 | Simca | foxlit's LuaCASC is weirdly fast, so if Lunatic Python is remotely efficient it shouldn't be too different from your pre-CASC run times |
| 06:55.22 | Primer | yay, found the file |
| 07:22.10 | Semlar | where is the drag and drop functionality for action buttons defined |
| 07:23.10 | Semlar | or how does it work |
| 07:25.28 | nevcairiel | for default action buttons, or for secure action buttons you can create? |
| 07:25.46 | Semlar | just the default buttons |
| 07:25.59 | Semlar | i think it's this PickupAny thing in securehandlers.lua |
| 07:26.40 | Semlar | i was mainly interested in how it knew you had released the mouse over one of the buttons |
| 07:27.02 | nevcairiel | thats just the normal OnReceiveDrag events the game fires |
| 07:27.19 | nevcairiel | and the default stuff doesnt use securehandlers |
| 07:27.29 | nevcairiel | it just has a PlaceAction call in the buttons OnReceiveDrag |
| 07:28.46 | Semlar | what does OnReceiveDrag fire in response to |
| 07:28.55 | nevcairiel | you dragging something onto it |
| 07:29.13 | Semlar | so if you're dragging something and you move over a mouse-enabled frame with that event it would fire |
| 07:29.24 | nevcairiel | only if you drop it there |
| 07:29.31 | Semlar | oh only if you release the mouse |
| 07:29.47 | Semlar | alright |
| 07:29.51 | nevcairiel | for actions, there is two ways, you can do a pure drag, ie. press-and-hold until you reach the target |
| 07:30.10 | nevcairiel | alternatively, you can just shift-click or what was it on the butotn and it picks up the action and sticks it on the cursor |
| 07:30.30 | Semlar | you can also release the left button as you drag and it does the same thing |
| 07:31.03 | nevcairiel | that wont go t hrough that code, but it will simply call UseAction once you click on the new button, which is smart to notice you have an action on the cursor and instead of casting, it'll place it there |
| 07:31.03 | Semlar | i mean, it puts it on the cursor and you have to click to get it off |
| 07:32.56 | Semlar | so if you create a long macro using an addon, is there any possible way to place that onto a normal action slot |
| 07:33.45 | Semlar | maybe bind the action to /click a custom action button? |
| 07:35.52 | nevcairiel | actions are limited to what they can do, you can create a normal macro that uses /click on a custom button |
| 07:35.56 | nevcairiel | but that wastes a macro slot |
| 07:36.21 | Semlar | yeah i'm trying to avoid using the existing macros but sort of simulating the existing macro frame |
| 07:36.34 | Semlar | i'm not sure if this is even possible |
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| 07:36.58 | Simca | http://svn.wowinterface.com/filedetails.php?repname=mikma&path=%2FVoodoo%2FVoodoo.lua example code mikma linked me that deals with OnReceiveDrag and secure action buttons |
| 07:37.03 | nevcairiel | you could modify in code what the actual button actually does, but that would be limited to default UI, and not work with action-based buttons from other addons |
| 07:37.46 | Semlar | i was thinking about hooking the button itself after you drag my button onto it but that seems kind of hackish |
| 07:38.02 | Semlar | plus i'd probably have to override the keybind on top of that |
| 07:38.16 | Semlar | i don't think they click the actual action buttons by default |
| 07:38.50 | nevcairiel | well they call SecureActionButton_OnClick manually |
| 07:39.22 | nevcairiel | so if you messed with the buttons attributes to call your macro instead of execute an action, it would work |
| 07:40.08 | Semlar | i could probably create an action button on top of the existing action button and just override the keybinding |
| 07:40.20 | Semlar | that might be worse |
| 07:40.25 | nevcairiel | that sounds even worse :D |
| 07:40.45 | Semlar | >_> |
| 07:41.43 | Semlar | maybe i should just stick to sacrificing macro slots |
| 08:00.44 | mikma | i'm gonna sacrifice some coffee now |
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| 08:02.40 | mikma | also, sometimes i hate myself because i need to code an addon for all the stupid things, like example tracking debuff durations on target and watching if slice and dice is still up |
| 08:15.05 | sb | mikma: why not using WA for this case? |
| 08:16.41 | mikma | sb: because i have nasty habit of disliking addons that do multiple things with huge extras :( |
| 08:17.44 | sb | i see |
| 08:20.10 | mikma | oh.. wow. apparently i had my old rogue addon in my svn |
| 08:20.20 | mikma | with minor modifications it can be used as planned :D |
| 08:53.55 | mikma | i wonder, why does TortoiseSVN keep telling me that authorization failed when i try to commit my changes into wowi svn |
| 09:02.14 | mikma | huh, that was weird :D wowi did show my svn username in lowercase and i had to put it like my own svn page said it would be |
| 09:13.11 | zenzelezz | "The Rhode Island Comic Con (RICC) is in the middle of a complete meltdown as hundreds are turned away at the door or denied reentry due to the event organizers selling far more tickets than the venue can accomodate" - oops |
| 09:13.57 | mikma | oops indeed |
| 09:15.48 | Fisker | If only there were some good guys to stop those bad guys |
| 09:17.45 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 09:18.33 | zenzelezz | so someone came dressed as Captain America at the halloween party on Friday. Apparently he kept having to tell kids to get lost because they kept coming up to him wanting an autograph on his way to the party |
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| 09:18.58 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:19.04 | Fisker | what kind of captain america is that who doesn't even have time for his fans? |
| 09:19.07 | nevcairiel | must've been one good costume |
| 09:27.17 | Fisker | You're a good costume nevcairiel |
| 09:27.18 | Fisker | :) |
| 09:27.27 | nevcairiel | why thank you |
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| 09:48.07 | Mr_Rabies | zenzelezz: clearly a skrull decoy out to tarnish cap's good name |
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| 10:36.15 | Cairenn | If you're going to dress at Captain America, the least you can do is be a good sport about it and sign the autographs, sheesh! |
| 10:37.21 | Cairenn | s/at/as/ |
| 10:37.27 | Constie | A real Captain America would sign them and charge for it. |
| 10:37.39 | nevcairiel | nah, the cap wouldnt charge |
| 10:37.50 | Cairenn | yeah, well, that's a pretty shitty practice they've started, if you ask me |
| 10:38.43 | Fisker | The only thing cap charges is into battle |
| 10:38.49 | Cairenn | charging for autographs, seriously? assholes |
| 10:39.25 | nevcairiel | well considering a majority of people asking for one are probably going to sell it off on ebay later :p |
| 10:39.55 | Cairenn | bleh, I suppose that's true enough |
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| 10:41.33 | Cairenn | I guess I'm just still not quite cynical enough - I didn't even think about that side of it |
| 10:42.05 | nevcairiel | i guess thats a good thing |
| 10:42.18 | nevcairiel | you still think the world has nice people in it! |
| 10:42.25 | mikma | cairenn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdyExxpd3Pg |
| 10:42.28 | Fisker | sometimes it does nevcairiel |
| 10:42.53 | Cairenn | I guess it's because I'm Canadian or something ;) |
| 10:44.25 | Fisker | classic canadians |
| 10:44.43 | Cairenn | After all, we're the ones that the day after someone with terrorist sympathies commits a horrible act and then some idiots go and desecrate a mosque, we go and clean the mosque up |
| 10:45.06 | Cairenn | (so proud of those folks!) |
| 10:45.16 | Cairenn | (that cleaned it up) |
| 10:46.47 | Constie | Not proud of the terrorists? |
| 10:46.53 | Cairenn | >< |
| 10:46.59 | Cairenn | No |
| 10:47.26 | Cairenn | and fucked if we're going to let a couple looney-tunes change who we are! |
| 10:48.09 | Cairenn | We're better than that |
| 10:48.33 | Cairenn | They will not win, they will not make us hate |
| 10:50.31 | Constie | That's the spirit! |
| 10:52.34 | Cairenn | gets back off her soap-box and heads off to sleep |
| 10:53.23 | Torhal | Lies! |
| 10:53.26 | mikma | there's that video around where some dorks are doing a social experiment in canada after the terrorist-crap |
| 10:53.39 | Cairenn | ? |
| 10:53.44 | mikma | the other dude badmouthing the "arab" got punched in the face :P |
| 10:53.52 | Cairenn | Good! |
| 10:53.55 | mikma | aye |
| 10:54.00 | mikma | let's see if i can locate it fast |
| 10:54.02 | Mr_Rabies | tim hortons diplomacy |
| 10:54.24 | Cairenn | hehehhe, yeah, there were lots of cups of timmy's at the clean up |
| 10:54.52 | mikma | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9rFprD_Qf4 |
| 10:54.53 | mikma | there we go |
| 10:55.22 | Fisker | sleep well Cairenn :o |
| 10:56.20 | mikma | guy gets schooled around by canadians |
| 10:56.23 | Constie | That is a heartwarming video. |
| 10:58.46 | Cairenn | I like it |
| 10:59.18 | mikma | http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canadians-stand-up-to-islamophobe-in-social-experiment-that-ends-with-punch-1.2077093 |
| 10:59.23 | mikma | the news clip about it :) |
| 10:59.40 | mikma | they filmed 2 hours and 0 people supported his anti-muslim thoughts :D |
| 10:59.53 | Cairenn | He was told enough times to gtfo, he didn't listen, he deserved it (yes, I know it wasn't real on his part, but the other people involved didn't, and I'm glad for the way folks stood up) |
| 11:00.38 | Cairenn | Like I said, we aren't going to let a couple people that through mental illness &/or drug abuse change our character |
| 11:00.52 | Cairenn | do something bad* change our |
| 11:01.02 | mikma | cairenn: if russia attacks finland, i'm moving into canada. |
| 11:01.31 | mikma | the weather is pretty much the same it's here in finland :D |
| 11:01.32 | nevcairiel | just have to hurry, when the russians took finland over after 3 days, they wont let you out anymore |
| 11:01.48 | mikma | nevcairiel: you might wanna refresh your longtime memory about that one |
| 11:02.14 | Constie | I mean, I don't know if the actual physical violence is something I'm fully comfortable condoning, but I'm glad of the guy wanting to defend the victim of harassment. |
| 11:02.17 | Cairenn | Honestly, you know what I was most upset and angry about on those two days (the Monday and the Wednesday)? That those two acts would have our government knee-jerk reacting the way the US did. |
| 11:02.31 | mikma | nevcairiel: after all, http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9cHkMILP4_A/Su8p3GFJJOI/AAAAAAAABHc/yywQlkVuUD4/s800/fdccax.jpg |
| 11:02.51 | Cairenn | Because I, and if you listen to pretty much anyone else, do NOT want to let those change us |
| 11:03.07 | Mr_Rabies | even out here in the south, for real, straight-up racism is fairly uncommon, though the "i'm not racist, but..." is way too common |
| 11:03.27 | nevcairiel | mikma: well the russians learned in those 70 years, they wait for spring now! |
| 11:03.35 | Mr_Rabies | was eating at a mexican restaurant a year or so back, and some guy got wasted and ran up a huge bill on alcohol that he didn't want to pay |
| 11:03.55 | Torhal | This is the same mentality, here in the states, that's been going on for decades. We've just replaced "Commies" with "Muslims" |
| 11:04.10 | Torhal | Fucking McCarthyism all over again. |
| 11:04.12 | mikma | nevcairiel: sure they will, but that doesn't change things much. we've been preparing all this time. and that's really a fact |
| 11:04.28 | Mr_Rabies | loudly threw out a bunch of racial slurs and everyone was totally shocked, and one guy was like "shut up we're here with family" etc |
| 11:04.32 | mikma | nevcairiel: you have no idea how much finland has actually prepared for round two |
| 11:04.41 | Cairenn | Mr_Rabies: good |
| 11:07.39 | Cairenn | btw, Constie, I actually agree with you that violence isn't necessarily the right way to deal with it, but over all .... |
| 11:10.46 | Constie | I'd probably rather have him punch him than agree with him. |
| 11:10.55 | Cairenn | 100% |
| 11:11.57 | Cairenn | And on that note, I really am going to bed, it's way past when I should be there |
| 11:12.04 | Cairenn | Night night |
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| 11:24.30 | Elkano | does ElvUI have an IRC channel or rather do its developers hang around in irc? |
| 11:26.14 | Constie | I believe so. I seem to recall IRC logs being posted in connection to the recent backdoor stuff. |
| 11:29.14 | Elkano | backdoor stuff? did I miss something? |
| 11:31.13 | Constie | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14882288964 |
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| 12:39.05 | Constie | I have the new mail icon active, and HasNewMail() is returning true, but if I go to a mailbox there's nothing there. |
| 12:41.05 | mikma | server lag |
| 12:42.35 | Constie | It's been happening since at least yesterday. |
| 12:46.35 | karl_w_w | haunted mailbox |
| 12:47.19 | Constie | Oh no! |
| 12:52.06 | mikma | happy lol'oween |
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| 14:17.23 | zenzelezz | out of the 20 "helpful" customer reviews that Steam chose to show me for Civ: Beyond Earth, 18 were negative, 2 positive... |
| 14:17.47 | zenzelezz | granted many of the negative weren't "this sucks", more "not quite what I had hoped for" |
| 14:18.26 | nevcairiel | expectations are a silly thing |
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| 15:36.22 | mikma | torhal: does npcscan catch mysterious camel figurines now? |
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| 16:13.16 | kd3 | the haunted mail thing has been happening to me since a few days after 6.0 launch |
| 16:30.27 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
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| 16:31.24 | kd3 | 'lo |
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| 17:21.42 | p3lim | Does ENCOUNTER_START|END work on any encounters? |
| 17:21.57 | p3lim | I can't see it used anywhere in FrameXML |
| 17:22.18 | Ironii | only 'new' ones |
| 17:22.25 | p3lim | How new? |
| 17:22.42 | Ironii | oldest i know of is toc |
| 17:23.20 | Semlar | pretty sure everything in the encounter journal fires it |
| 17:23.45 | Semlar | i don't remember if dungeons do though |
| 17:25.03 | nevcairiel | toc is pretty old already these days |
| 17:25.21 | p3lim | Does it fire for worldbosses too? |
| 17:26.02 | Semlar | might only be things you can't release from while it's in progress |
| 17:26.12 | p3lim | Ah |
| 17:27.41 | Semlar | it's also bugged, and ENCOUNTER_START will fire again after ENCOUNTER_END so you have to double-check with IsEncounterInProgress() every time it fires |
| 17:29.11 | Semlar | depending on what you need it for you can also check for boss frames/units |
| 17:29.32 | p3lim | Interested in the difficulty and raidsize returns actually |
| 17:29.55 | p3lim | Although the difficulty one should be equal to GetInstanceInfo's 3rd return |
| 17:30.30 | Semlar | is this for tracking battle rezzes |
| 17:32.02 | Ironii | [19:27:44] [Semlar] it's also bugged, and ENCOUNTER_START will fire again after ENCOUNTER_END so you have to double-check with IsEncounterInProgress() every time it fires |
| 17:32.17 | Ironii | only times i have seen that is after spoils wipe and after paragons wipe if rogue vanishes |
| 17:32.22 | Ironii | really rare th |
| 17:32.32 | Semlar | not rare enough to ignore |
| 17:33.12 | Ironii | depends what you are doing |
| 17:33.23 | Semlar | all you have to do is check IsEncounterInProgress() when ENCOUNTER_START fires to make sure it's actually accurate |
| 17:33.26 | Ironii | but usually when it happens ENCOUNTER_START won't fire on the next pull |
| 17:34.18 | Semlar | well that would complicate things |
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| 17:48.50 | Jamash | Hearthstats isn't very good at autodetecting decks at low resolutions: http://www.hearthstats.net/decks/autodetected-mage?locale=en |
| 17:50.09 | Jamash | The results are somewhat amusing. |
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| 20:07.04 | foxlit | why are underwater mounts not allowed in the shrines? |
| 20:07.58 | foxlit | on an entirely different note, I have these numbers, in no particular order: 3C1482E9D82AE949B7A218876893E19E, EF4BD5E2D31ED491266E9210AF6ECE0A, 4D471DADF8DD46F66D1FC7C83537D327; and I have no idea what to do with them. |
| 20:09.52 | Semlar | put them back where you found them |
| 20:10.29 | Semlar | yeah, i like that the mount journal says you can't use underwater mounts for like everything you can't mount |
| 20:11.02 | foxlit | But not, say, flying mounts, which you can't mount either. |
| 20:11.16 | Semlar | it had that in the tooltip for my normal flying mount |
| 20:11.59 | foxlit | mount usability is a litttle bit of a mess. |
| 20:12.04 | Semlar | i assumed they were just flagged incorrectly |
| 20:12.25 | foxlit | what, all of them? |
| 20:12.41 | foxlit | Standing in the shrine, all traditional ground mounts are not usable ("underwater") |
| 20:13.07 | foxlit | all traditional flying mounts are not displaying an error message, but cannot be used either. |
| 20:14.02 | Semlar | i think the message is checking whether something is an "underwater mount" incorrectly in the mount flags |
| 20:14.13 | Semlar | not necessarily that the mount is flagged wrong |
| 20:17.31 | kd3 | oh geez, trying to kill the dreadhowls, let alone moonfang, is going to be ridiculous |
| 20:18.56 | Semlar | does she still have like 175 million health |
| 20:19.08 | Dagmar | Yes. It is. |
| 20:19.15 | kd3 | dunno, we're working on the dreadhowls right now. they're 101 with 3.03m health |
| 20:19.18 | Dagmar | I watched that debacle last night. |
| 20:19.23 | Semlar | lol |
| 20:19.33 | kd3 | ./1 is saying it took 2 raids this morning |
| 20:19.43 | Dagmar | OUr server's tanks are pussies who are scared to do a little dying |
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| 20:20.40 | Semlar | do we still have lowered hit chance against higher level targets |
| 20:20.44 | kd3 | yes |
| 20:21.04 | Dagmar | I was managing about 5.4k dps against Moonfang |
| 20:21.11 | Semlar | nice |
| 20:21.37 | Dagmar | I had guildies taking a digit off that. I've no idea how I was getting to hit so often |
| 20:21.49 | kd3 | http://wowpedia.org/Attack_table (updated for warlords) |
| 20:22.00 | kd3 | feel free to extrapolate to -11 (the elites), -13 (the boss) |
| 20:22.06 | Torhal | mikma: Nope :/ |
| 20:22.20 | Semlar | 110% glancing blows? |
| 20:22.54 | Dagmar | Not as a hunter I shouldn't |
| 20:22.54 | kd3 | those are the numbers that celestalon put in the theorycrafting thread |
| 20:23.14 | zenzelezz | I wonder how long a frozen pizza can pass the expiration date and still be safe, as long as it has never left the freezer |
| 20:23.23 | Semlar | probably forever |
| 20:23.37 | zenzelezz | I may have forgotten to stock up on food, and this 13.07.2013 is looking mighty tempting right now |
| 20:23.40 | Semlar | it might not taste very good |
| 20:23.41 | Dagmar | It'll be safe far longer than you'll want to eat it |
| 20:23.56 | Dagmar | Freezer burn will leech all the fun out of it within a yaer |
| 20:24.34 | zenzelezz | freezer burn? |
| 20:24.43 | Semlar | there aren't even 13 months in the year |
| 20:24.55 | zenzelezz | this is Europe |
| 20:25.05 | Semlar | you get an extra one? |
| 20:25.19 | foxlit | http://wowpedia.org/API_C_MountJournal.GetMountInfo << while I'm happy at least someone is documenting things, I wish it wouldn't be so misleading :/ |
| 20:25.22 | zenzelezz | nope; we know that days belong within months, so we write them in the right order |
| 20:25.22 | Semlar | febtober? |
| 20:25.40 | Dagmar | Yes, when stuff is in the freezer for a long time and isn't hermetically sealed, the moisture will escape as it becomes freeze-dried |
| 20:26.00 | Dagmar | The bits that are "freezer burned" won't cook properly because of the lack of water and will taste like cardboard |
| 20:26.16 | Semlar | frozen pizzas are probably hermetically sealed |
| 20:26.25 | Dagmar | Nope.t |
| 20:26.43 | Dagmar | They're just wrapped in cellophane |
| 20:27.09 | Semlar | the ones i've had are in heavy plastic with all the air sucked out |
| 20:27.22 | Dagmar | Ahh... that would do it |
| 20:27.39 | Semlar | might depend on the brand |
| 20:27.49 | Semlar | i really don't get frozen pizzas very often |
| 20:28.39 | Dagmar | DiGiorno puts a lot more effort into preserving the pizza than say, store brand pizzas |
| 20:29.15 | Semlar | digiorno and red barron are probably the only ones i can even remember buying |
| 20:29.38 | zenzelezz | I don't do frozen pizza much anymore, after the stopped making the best one. That was a good year. https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/v/t1.0-9/563697_10201474117232689_1842184047_n.jpg?oh=7327a90643b3bfc803f88ba1d4678f9b&oe=54F686D7 |
| 20:30.01 | Semlar | i think you may have a problem |
| 20:30.05 | zenzelezz | not anymore |
| 20:30.16 | zenzelezz | though I still don't eat very varied |
| 20:30.22 | zenzelezz | each of those boxes was two meals though |
| 20:32.37 | Semlar | http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8u_C58FahDY/UuBuOuTrMVI/AAAAAAAAIkA/e3wb9iDb1aI/s1600/Digiorno2+Collage.jpg this is the kind of seal digiorno uses |
| 20:32.44 | Semlar | although that slice looks like a mess |
| 20:33.48 | kd3 | she has 43m health now |
| 20:34.01 | Dagmar | ...and she evade bugs. |
| 20:34.14 | Semlar | and you only hit her for like 1/3 of your normal damage? |
| 20:34.23 | kd3 | she's always evade-bugged, she's got a very small leash radius |
| 20:34.50 | Dagmar | I prefer to blame it on tanks running like little girls. ;) |
| 20:35.15 | Semlar | GET IN THERE YOU COWARDS |
| 20:35.24 | Dagmar | Yeep |
| 20:35.31 | Semlar | DIE WITH HONOR |
| 20:35.59 | foxlit | if its 103, caster spells just don't land. |
| 20:36.29 | Semlar | so you're saying i can finally outdamage a warlock? |
| 20:36.30 | kd3 | the spell hit floor is 10% |
| 20:36.32 | foxlit | glancing blows are a thing, but I don't think they put an actual multiplier on your damage output. |
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| 20:37.32 | Cairenn | Okay guys, I have what many of you will probably consider a very odd question - Do any of you *only* get a data plan for your smart phones for BC? ie you don't normally have one (a data plan), for whatever reason? |
| 20:37.56 | Semlar | i don't even have a smartphone |
| 20:38.22 | foxlit | (and on a related note, where is the closest prepaid SIM-selling place to BlizzCon?) |
| 20:38.43 | Torhal | I'm on a weird $3/day if used thing where I just slap money on the account. |
| 20:38.48 | Torhal | No way to differentiate :/ |
| 20:38.54 | Semlar | ah blizzcon, i assumed british columbia |
| 20:40.06 | Cairenn | I'm just trying to figure out how much data I'm likely to need |
| 20:40.21 | Cairenn | so I can figure out what plan to buy :p |
| 20:40.37 | Semlar | all the datas! |
| 20:40.45 | Cairenn | It's just so I can be in that stupid google hangout that you guys set up last year :p |
| 20:41.00 | Torhal | Based on last year's experience, I think the data plan you should get needs to be compatible with a brick. |
| 20:41.31 | Torhal | Then again, maybe it's just my carrier that decided to work about 10% of the time. |
| 20:41.37 | Cairenn | I don't want to brick my phone :p |
| 20:41.48 | Torhal | I meant a plan that works on a brick. :D |
| 20:41.52 | Torhal | Not a bricked phone! |
| 20:41.55 | Cairenn | hehhehee |
| 20:42.21 | kd3 | oh crap the adds |
| 20:42.23 | kd3 | forgot about those |
| 20:42.48 | Cairenn | on a different, although related (BC) note - I can get real hugs this year, and I damn well better! You're all on notice! |
| 20:43.22 | Semlar | hugs Cairenn |
| 20:43.26 | Cairenn | :) |
| 20:43.27 | Torhal | But...I have a bone in my leg! |
| 20:43.39 | Cairenn | ... ummmmm |
| 20:43.45 | Torhal | >.> |
| 20:43.49 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 20:47.08 | Simca | this is mostly terrifying http://i.imgur.com/aruwiyo.png |
| 20:47.49 | Semlar | hey my dad works at fsu |
| 20:48.14 | Thunder_Child | Yea, the fact that they have a dept. of compsci is terrifying. |
| 20:48.31 | zenzelezz | Steam seems confused. Earlier today it said my brother had not been online for 153 days; now it says 4 days |
| 20:48.51 | Semlar | or was it usf.. it's all the same |
| 20:50.13 | Simca | Thunder_Child: UF grad? |
| 20:50.51 | Thunder_Child | Simca: No, I have never been to that bug ridden state. |
| 20:51.20 | Simca | we may have bugs but we also have temperatures >30 F year round |
| 20:51.37 | Semlar | it's surprisingly cold right now |
| 20:52.04 | Semlar | i had to put on a long sleeved shirt |
| 20:53.48 | Thunder_Child | Simca: I'm not sure why that is a good thing. |
| 20:54.04 | Thunder_Child | Regardless, ours is >50F year round. |
| 20:54.57 | Simca | do you like in Ecuador? |
| 20:55.12 | Thunder_Child | Los Angeles. |
| 20:55.21 | Simca | so, basically. |
| 20:55.26 | Semlar | si |
| 20:55.27 | Thunder_Child | Si |
| 20:55.31 | Semlar | >_> |
| 20:55.33 | Thunder_Child | Damnit Semlar. |
| 20:55.37 | Semlar | so close |
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| 21:14.13 | foxlit | There appears to be no reasonable way to distinguish whether you can't use the mount because you lack the prerequisite skills/levels/faction affiliation, or just because you're standing somewhere you can't use the mount because of map restrictions. |
| 21:15.21 | nevcairiel | the faction thing at least has to be detectable somehow, they have a faction logo behind them in the mount list |
| 21:16.34 | foxlit | yes, though it's weird that they'd even bother you showing opposite-faction mounts. |
| 21:29.40 | fewyn | seeing Warlords commercials during football games is still kinda weird |
| 21:32.02 | nevcairiel | i saw mop commercials in the cinema back in the day, nothing yet for warlords though, wonder if they just didnt do them or i'm watching the wrong movies |
| 21:32.17 | fewyn | i don't go to the movies much anymore |
| 21:32.18 | fewyn | so no idea |
| 21:37.45 | Ironii | foxlit what are you trying to do? |
| 21:38.00 | Ironii | you could use IsOutdoors() to check if you can actually use mounts or not |
| 21:39.15 | foxlit | Trying to figure out whether it's reasonable to present you with a choice of casting a given mount. |
| 21:39.35 | fewyn | papa johns makes a fritos chili pizza now |
| 21:39.50 | fewyn | it sounds so horrible |
| 21:39.56 | fewyn | yet i strangely want it |
| 21:40.38 | farmbuyer | fewyn: "all your bad food habits in one convenient delivery service!" |
| 21:42.54 | foxlit | not reasonable: you lack the skill to use the mount, you're of the wrong faction, you don't actually have the mount, etc. |
| 21:43.10 | foxlit | reasonable: you can't use this mount because it requires that you're underwater, and you're standing next to a lake. |
| 21:46.38 | Ironii | you can do all that with current api? |
| 21:46.40 | Ironii | well, close enough atleast |
| 21:48.24 | foxlit | function IsMountReasonablyUsable(mountJournalID) --[[ fill in your code here]] end |
| 21:50.07 | nevcairiel | the problem isnt checking the conditions, but figuring out which to apply to which mount |
| 21:56.12 | karl_w_w | IsMountReasonablyUsableInThisLocation() |
| 21:56.32 | Thunder_Child | Define 'reasonable'? |
| 21:57.01 | Ironii | http://pastebin.com/CKpEAYHX |
| 21:57.03 | Ironii | something like that? |
| 21:57.16 | karl_w_w | IsMountReasonablyUsableInThePlayerHeroesCurrentLocationAtTheCurrentMomentInTimeWhereReasonablyMeansWhateverFoxlitMeantByIt() |
| 21:57.38 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: karl_w_w: don't you people have bridges to guard? |
| 21:58.14 | karl_w_w | bridges are all automated these days |
| 21:58.32 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: They are currently full atm, we only guard empty bridges. |
| 21:58.38 | foxlit | Ironii: GetCompanionInfo returns absolutely nothing in 6.0. |
| 21:58.39 | karl_w_w | modernisation you know, cuts out people with specific skillsets |
| 21:58.47 | Ironii | O.o |
| 21:58.48 | Ironii | really |
| 21:58.57 | nevcairiel | for mounts anyway |
| 21:58.58 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: in that case, find the definition of "reasonable" by scrolling up. |
| 22:00.08 | Thunder_Child | killjoy. |
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| 22:03.03 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: now that that's cleared up, I'm sure I can expect your attempt at IsMountReasonablyUsable any minute now? |
| 22:04.18 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: No. But I might be persuaded to do IsMountSubjectivelyReasonablyUsable. |
| 22:04.25 | foxlit | thought not. |
| 22:05.54 | Fisker | |
| 22:07.55 | fewyn | sigh just noticed i forgot to change some of my clocks |
| 22:08.01 | fewyn | i was wondering why i thought it was 5pm |
| 22:08.14 | kd3|hate`net | because it is? it's 5:08 |
| 22:08.24 | fewyn | ~central~ |
| 22:08.56 | fewyn | was walking through the kitchen and looks at the clock and was like i should probably start on dinner |
| 22:09.05 | fewyn | then sat down and saw the clock on the pc |
| 22:11.09 | Semlar | so if i went through and changes all your clocks while you weren't looking, you wouldn't notice? |
| 22:11.16 | Semlar | changed |
| 22:11.17 | fewyn | probably not |
| 22:11.22 | Semlar | >_> |
| 22:11.32 | nevcairiel | would you? |
| 22:11.38 | Semlar | maybe |
| 22:21.22 | Jamash | foxlit: how do you tell you're standing next to a lake, other than creating a database of every lake in the game? |
| 22:23.21 | foxlit | My opinion is that the current API returns are insufficient to do implement that function. |
| 22:24.52 | Fisker | Google maps for wow |
| 22:25.01 | Semlar | wow maps for google |
| 22:25.03 | foxlit | Basically, there's only a float isUsable boolean value that is negated by most failure conditions. |
| 22:25.41 | Semlar | i thought they added mount flags |
| 22:26.01 | Semlar | so you could check the type |
| 22:26.54 | Semlar | C_MountJournal.GetMountInfoExtra ? |
| 22:27.28 | Ironii | yeah, 230 = ground, 248 = flying |
| 22:27.35 | Ironii | atm trying to figure out whats swimming ;P |
| 22:27.39 | foxlit | while it would be more useful to have information about *why* a mount is not usable now -- is it because I don't have the skill? not in water? actually in water, and shouldn't be? disallowed by the zone? all of the above, at the same time? |
| 22:27.40 | Semlar | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=294988&postcount=15 |
| 22:28.16 | Semlar | does it matter why a mount isn't usable if you're only checking usable mounts |
| 22:29.08 | foxlit | it does to me. |
| 22:30.07 | Semlar | i thought you were checking for "best" option or something |
| 22:30.32 | foxlit | If it's not usable now, but is likely to be usable in 3 seconds, I want to show the slice for that mount. If it's not usable now, and is not going to be usable until you reach level 58, I don't want to show the slice. |
| 22:31.04 | Semlar | how would you determine if something is going to be usable soon |
| 22:31.32 | Semlar | if they're moving in the direction of outside? |
| 22:32.04 | foxlit | by taking the complement of the set of things I know won't be usable soon. |
| 22:37.07 | foxlit | but screw it, I'll err on the side of showing everything, including to level 1 chars. |
| 22:42.57 | jleclanche | ben brode is serious about laughing |
| 22:44.03 | Simca | ben brode's voice is serious about everything |
| 22:45.12 | zenzelezz | Ben Brode? |
| 22:45.20 | kd3 | hearthstone designer |
| 22:45.22 | jleclanche | zenzelezz: yes |
| 22:45.45 | Simca | he has an absurdly deep voice, so when he laughs, it is like booming |
| 22:45.49 | Fisker | Ben Brode doesn't even know the game he's playing |
| 22:46.11 | Fisker | It's Chris Metzen levels of absurd Simca |
| 22:46.14 | jleclanche | Simca: his laugh is so booming, he gets searched in airports |
| 22:46.15 | Fisker | Maybe even more |
| 22:47.01 | Fisker | But like he asked if there was any merit to alexstrasza yourself down to 15 |
| 22:47.04 | Fisker | I lold |
| 22:47.13 | zenzelezz | sometimes when I open the Blizzard launcher, I get the feeling it wants to download Hearthstone even though I don't care for it. Like the icon is sitting there, all lonely next to the WoW, SC and D3 icons, feeling ignored |
| 22:52.08 | Simca | of course there is merit, Fisker |
| 22:52.11 | Simca | YOU FACE JARAXXUS |
| 22:52.40 | Fisker | That's not alexstrasza ;( |
| 22:53.04 | zenzelezz | plot twist, IT IS |
| 22:57.44 | Simca | that's the only reasonable reason to get yourself to 15 |
| 22:57.49 | Simca | also lol http://i.imgur.com/2QpLf3r.jpg |
| 22:58.18 | Simca | tried to tie a toy use into jumping, was blocked by "***TaintForced***" |
| 22:59.39 | Simca | occurs with no addons too, boo http://i.imgur.com/2QpLf3r.jpg |
| 23:00.14 | foxlit | "no addons" is irrelevant. |
| 23:00.39 | foxlit | usetoybyname itself is protected, which makes the outcome predictable. |
| 23:01.21 | Fisker | Ben Brode worst troll |
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| 23:04.23 | Simca | yeah foxlit I figured as much |
| 23:04.36 | Simca | do you know any way to periodically trigger a protected function? |
| 23:05.40 | foxlit | Such a thing would be an exploit by definition. |
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| 23:06.57 | Simca | yeah i guess |
| 23:07.39 | Simca | but putting a transparent button to trigger the safari hat over the accept button for a pet battle achieves the effect of periodically calling a protected function without being an exploit |
| 23:08.04 | Simca | was wondering if you had any similar ideas |
| 23:09.09 | zenzelezz | what is it this addon is meant to do? |
| 23:09.38 | Simca | keep the buff from the new toy that gives you flamey wings active |
| 23:31.56 | Arrowmaster | alright got CAH blizzcon cards added to my box and the box and my scotch in packed up securely in my bag now |
| 23:50.20 | jleclanche | Simca: flamey wings? |
| 23:52.16 | nebula169 | from darkmoon faire |
| 23:52.17 | fewyn | it's the new DMF toy |
| 23:52.31 | fewyn | basically you play a game that's like alyrazor flight mechanics |
| 23:52.33 | fewyn | if you collect 50 rings |
| 23:52.39 | fewyn | you get a toy that gives you wings |
| 23:55.10 | zenzelezz | cue Red Bull joke |
| 23:56.28 | kd3 | the hard part is competing against _everybody else_ trying to do it at the same time |
| 23:56.32 | kd3 | how'd that go live? |
| 23:56.57 | fewyn | it's not supposed to |
| 23:57.02 | fewyn | on beta you don't share |
| 23:57.08 | fewyn | but for some reason it does on live |
| 23:57.14 | fewyn | there must be some kind of bug |
| 23:57.43 | fewyn | think i saw a dev tweeting about it earlier today |
| 23:57.49 | fewyn | might have been nitemoogle |
| 23:58.05 | nebula169 | https://twitter.com/Muffinus/status/528791195540258816 |
| 23:58.15 | fewyn | or muffinus |
