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| 00:36.19 | Arrowmaster | so whos got HotS that can check something for me ingame? |
| 00:36.25 | Arrowmaster | just need to go into menus |
| 00:36.49 | kd3 | guh, something's causing firefox to go in to a busy loop, but I dunno what |
| 00:48.05 | Simca | Arrowmaster: i have it |
| 00:48.05 | Simca | sup |
| 00:48.52 | Arrowmaster | does the shop work for you? im getting an ssl connect error and somebody else running on linux reported the same |
| 00:49.01 | Arrowmaster | wanted to know if it was a game issue or a linux issue |
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| 01:00.21 | Simca | i don't have anything to buy atm |
| 01:00.31 | Simca | but typically SSL connect errors are personal |
| 01:00.47 | Simca | i had a reccurring one when bitdefender was blocking heroes |
| 01:03.07 | kd3 | eh, I can't even get heroes to launch right now. getting "An unexpected fatal error occured." |
| 01:03.38 | Unkle | I can't even get invited to HotS beta, so you're one up on me. :) |
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| 01:12.42 | Simca | i got a second invite, but they're not doing keys yet, so useless to me |
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| 01:14.09 | Mr_Rabies | huh, is this the clearest screenshot of WoWEdit to date? https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_entry_media/PLCD1DXB8IAQ1414606265434.jpg |
| 01:14.40 | Neffi | wtf is WoWEdit? |
| 01:14.54 | kd3 | the tool they use to build the levels |
| 01:15.15 | Neffi | doesn't look like the thing I saw in the BlizzCon (or was it E3? or was it something else?) video |
| 01:15.19 | relaxok | there's been other similar ones |
| 01:15.35 | relaxok | it's kind of a shitty looking UI but its only tons of buttons because most of them work with wacom/cintiq tablets |
| 01:15.50 | relaxok | so you just press a button to change modes or whatever |
| 01:15.53 | relaxok | with the stylus |
| 01:15.55 | Semlar | edits neffi |
| 01:15.56 | Neffi | ime the only time editors have a pretty UI is when your core product is the editor |
| 01:16.20 | Neffi | thanks Semlar |
| 01:16.33 | relaxok | ive always hated picture buttons as UI |
| 01:16.36 | kd3 | Something about fresh-out-of-the-oven cookies and a glass of milk when you're not feeling 100%. |
| 01:16.41 | relaxok | 'wtf is that?? a dwarf choking soemone??' |
| 01:17.20 | Mr_Rabies | as long as the icons are clear, it's a great way to do it |
| 01:17.28 | foxlit | target="_blank" everywhere. And now I want a checkbox to kill that at browser level. |
| 01:17.29 | Mr_Rabies | android has a major problem with that it seems |
| 01:18.10 | relaxok | Who wants to help me figure out how the hell InterfaceOptionsLanguagesPanelLocaleDropDown gets hidden? |
| 01:18.33 | Neffi | Opera used to have a checkbox to kill that. Then it went all derp and became Chromium |
| 01:18.40 | relaxok | in GlueXML |
| 01:18.42 | Neffi | I miss that feature |
| 01:18.50 | relaxok | that seems to be something i spend an inordinate amount of time on |
| 01:18.56 | relaxok | such and such frame defaults to not being hidden |
| 01:18.59 | relaxok | so how is it hidden.. |
| 01:19.44 | bluspacecow | *sigh* |
| 01:20.12 | bluspacecow | com.apple.WebKit pegging one of my processors. from the app store possibly. And all I wanted to do is find one photo in iPhoto |
| 01:20.26 | bluspacecow | imma go soak my socks |
| 01:20.43 | relaxok | the pvp ready dialog i eventually added the correct stuff for it to close |
| 01:20.43 | Neffi | that's a strange way to cope with stress, bluspacecow |
| 01:20.48 | relaxok | OnAttributeChanged stuff i think |
| 01:21.04 | Mr_Rabies | interesting way to smuggle booze to a halloween party, bluspacecow |
| 01:21.09 | relaxok | almost everything in the entire UI has to be working for even basic stuff to work |
| 01:21.13 | relaxok | its utterly crazy how intertwined it is |
| 01:22.09 | bluspacecow | *yep* *soaks Neffi* |
| 01:22.48 | Mr_Rabies | is there an auction house in the faction hubs in WoD? |
| 01:23.10 | kd3 | if there is one, it's only for engineers, just like in the vale shrines |
| 01:23.11 | Neffi | <_< |
| 01:24.01 | Simca | if you have a trading post in your garrison you can build one |
| 01:24.34 | Mr_Rabies | i'd rather them have it in the faction hub instead of everyone just hanging around their garrison but whatever :< |
| 01:25.13 | Mr_Rabies | really, i'd like to see the auction house just being a UI element, not a place you have to go to |
| 01:25.27 | relaxok | they were moving in that direction with a lot of things years ago |
| 01:25.37 | foxlit | clearly the black lion trading post is superior in every possible way. |
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| 01:26.34 | Mr_Rabies | it's all a balancing act, i guess |
| 01:26.52 | Mr_Rabies | the garrison being a place for people to hang out seems like a bad idea to me, but i guess we'll see |
| 01:27.12 | Mr_Rabies | at least if they're in the game world or a city they're still somewhere to everyone else, helping fill the world out |
| 01:27.25 | relaxok | the days of having to go to e.g. the warsong gulch entrance in order to do the battleground.... |
| 01:27.26 | Mr_Rabies | but if everyone's in their own personal phased instance then what |
| 01:27.28 | relaxok | not missed at all |
| 01:27.41 | relaxok | then people thought battlemasters were such a fucking gift |
| 01:27.45 | relaxok | then it was like.. fuck battlemasters! |
| 01:27.51 | relaxok | i want to queue while questing |
| 01:28.07 | foxlit | The world, and in particular, the faction capitals, do not need to be filled out with idling auction house alts. |
| 01:29.53 | foxlit | when - if ever - are you actually happy to see other players from a gameplay perspective? |
| 01:29.53 | Shirik | http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuhR4d_CcAA7jvK.jpg |
| 01:32.07 | Mr_Rabies | always, foxlit |
| 01:32.14 | Mr_Rabies | it makes the game world feel more alive |
| 01:32.20 | Mr_Rabies | otherwise, why even bother playing an MMO |
| 01:32.31 | foxlit | they're hogging your quest mobs and stealing your ore spawns. |
| 01:32.44 | Mr_Rabies | they're increasing the spawn rate on quest mobs and ore spawns, as well |
| 01:32.57 | foxlit | and I'm pretty sure that one guy just PK'ed you while you were typing. |
| 01:33.10 | Mr_Rabies | (and you can group with them for quests) |
| 01:33.59 | Neffi | also pvp server |
| 01:34.02 | Neffi | I love seeing red names |
| 01:34.05 | foxlit | rather dubious benefit given content tuning is done for blindfolded cats. |
| 01:34.59 | Unkle | Shirik: Delivery Guy: Hey Y'all, watch this! ... Oh dag gum it! |
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| 01:35.51 | foxlit | wow's open world gameplay at best makes me feel ambivalent towards seeing other players. |
| 01:36.09 | relaxok | the world is much better on pvp servers, imo |
| 01:36.43 | Neffi | ^ |
| 01:36.49 | Neffi | seeing an empty world bothers me, tbh |
| 01:37.08 | Neffi | I expect there to be some life. I expect there to be other players. |
| 01:37.23 | relaxok | since with current world pve tuning you never have any reason to be concerned for your safety, seeing other players who may want to kill you is the only thing that provides any sense of danger |
| 01:37.27 | foxlit | and yet you very seldomly benefit from having other players around. |
| 01:38.00 | relaxok | which i would say was not quite the case for vanilla.. world questing was a little bit of a challenge at least |
| 01:38.12 | relaxok | lots of mob packs requiring careful pulling |
| 01:38.21 | Neffi | maximum value is achieved through challenge, not ease, imo |
| 01:38.34 | relaxok | generally you could not take on more than 2 same level mobs at a time |
| 01:38.36 | Neffi | benefit is irrelevant, then |
| 01:38.52 | relaxok | at least not in greens |
| 01:39.12 | Mr_Rabies | not everyone's as much of a misanthrope as you, foxlit |
| 01:39.28 | Unkle | I am. |
| 01:40.27 | relaxok | i'm also upset that orange/red quest questing is basically gone |
| 01:40.52 | Neffi | the tradeoff is that questing is largely better now than it used to be |
| 01:40.54 | relaxok | the on rails level-up experience is one easy green or yellow quest after another |
| 01:41.01 | Neffi | zone setups, quest hubs, quest lines, etc all basically sucked before |
| 01:41.08 | relaxok | sort of |
| 01:41.17 | Neffi | MoP's questing was top-notch. |
| 01:41.19 | relaxok | not sure i'd totally agree though |
| 01:41.28 | foxlit | Mr_Rabies: I disagree strongly with the label. |
| 01:41.40 | relaxok | Neffi: at no point was there any chance you might die |
| 01:41.47 | relaxok | unless you had never played the game before |
| 01:41.54 | Neffi | yes but it was charming, well though-out, well written, engrossing |
| 01:42.00 | Neffi | also I died a few times. call me bad |
| 01:42.05 | Neffi | that fucker outside the brewery was an asshole |
| 01:42.43 | foxlit | pandaren starting zone brewery, then? |
| 01:42.50 | Neffi | no, Valley |
| 01:43.25 | foxlit | I don't know what you can die to there. |
| 01:43.42 | Neffi | get stunned -> aggro a bunch of mobs -> get stunned again fighting them |
| 01:43.53 | Neffi | or something. i dunno. it's been a while since I quested |
| 01:43.58 | foxlit | they're all stationary. |
| 01:44.52 | foxlit | except the barrel-throwing monkey that deals no damage and requires you to push the extra action button if you get too close to its extremely predicable path. |
| 01:46.48 | foxlit | WoD might be slightly better with rares that you actually could use a few random people to shorten the lifespan of. |
| 01:48.04 | kullervo | yeah right |
| 01:48.11 | kullervo | it'll be just like tbc |
| 01:48.48 | kullervo | or even cata where the more challenging rares roamed the land until some guild came to kill them |
| 01:49.09 | foxlit | maybe you're thinking of different rares. |
| 01:50.04 | foxlit | I'm referring to the vignette events -- mobs that are typically soloable but have enough HP to not die before the Prowl cooldown recharges. |
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| 02:08.18 | fewyn | hrm which heirloom do i want to get this weekend |
| 02:10.12 | Thunder_Child | All of them |
| 02:11.39 | kullervo | you and your alts you haven't killed garrosh on :( |
| 02:12.07 | Semlar | o god the hunter faq i was reading deleted like their entire post |
| 02:12.12 | kullervo | I wanted another axe for leveling so I'd get to use anotehr mog but will have to stick with this stupid mythic wf polearm until lvl 95 or something |
| 02:12.36 | harl | lol.. why would killing garrosh be of some kind of priority anyway |
| 02:12.52 | harl | never mind i asked tho |
| 02:13.06 | kullervo | harl: heirlooms >_> |
| 02:13.15 | harl | daww.. |
| 02:13.28 | kullervo | gearing up for the next expansion you know |
| 02:13.48 | harl | yah.. nay.. |
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| 02:14.19 | kullervo | at this point? What else is there to do ._. |
| 02:14.24 | relaxok | oh fug |
| 02:14.31 | relaxok | i hadn't implemented relativekey at all |
| 02:15.37 | harl | what else? there's so much else.. i don't see how convenience heirlooms are really relevant, at least to my ways. |
| 02:16.14 | kullervo | having an optimal weapon for leveling is pretty cool |
| 02:16.28 | kullervo | but we're all powergamers, you can enjoy it as you like |
| 02:17.15 | harl | i have pretty much every heirloom there is. all i'm saying is that it's something i don't care much about. |
| 02:17.45 | Semlar | garrosh has only ever given me one heirloom aside from my bow and that was some caster offhand |
| 02:17.59 | Semlar | i think it knows i don't have any alts |
| 02:18.27 | harl | the chance to get an heirloom after the 1st time is pretty much the same as with all the other loot |
| 02:18.28 | Stanzilla | thank god I have them all now |
| 02:18.52 | harl | so yea, you'd have to kill garrosh with another alt each time |
| 02:19.14 | relaxok | i need to figure the best way to get a relativekey table onto the stack |
| 02:19.30 | relaxok | you can't do getglobal with the lua c api on blah.key right? |
| 02:19.47 | relaxok | i guess you do getfield |
| 02:21.26 | fewyn | i only have a agi dagger, caster staff, and caster mace so far |
| 02:21.39 | fewyn | i think i can only get 1 more heirloom between now and blizzcon |
| 02:21.46 | fewyn | and warlords drops the following week |
| 02:36.01 | relaxok | where are panel tabs re-sized? |
| 02:36.14 | relaxok | like say in the spellbook |
| 02:42.39 | relaxok | do buttons automatically resize if the text gets bigger? |
| 02:42.45 | relaxok | seems like they wouldnt |
| 02:44.09 | relaxok | PanelTemplates_TabResize |
| 02:44.10 | relaxok | ah hah |
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| 02:55.12 | Mr_Rabies | argh i still can't think of a name for my dwarf shaman |
| 02:55.17 | Mr_Rabies | :< |
| 02:58.10 | Seerah | Earthforger? |
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| 03:09.27 | Stanzilla | Beardman |
| 03:15.04 | Mr_Rabies | oh man |
| 03:15.09 | Mr_Rabies | i was just in a dire maul run |
| 03:15.16 | Mr_Rabies | with a dps bear druid that was balance spec |
| 03:15.24 | Mr_Rabies | that kept dying because he kept stealing aggro from me |
| 03:15.25 | Mr_Rabies | :v |
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| 03:26.12 | Semlar | do the macro api functions all work in other locales, like does /click work on a chinese client |
| 03:28.01 | Semlar | i'm going to assume it does |
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| 03:37.42 | relaxok | what's the deal with this.. |
| 03:37.44 | relaxok | tabText:SetWidth(0); textWidth = tabText:GetWidth(); |
| 03:37.53 | Neffi | automatic width |
| 03:38.01 | Semlar | setting the width to 0 sets it to the width of the text |
| 03:38.04 | relaxok | does it get it from the font size? |
| 03:38.07 | Neffi | it'll assume the width needed to hold the string |
| 03:38.11 | relaxok | okay |
| 03:38.15 | Semlar | although |
| 03:38.18 | Neffi | here, have a funny http://imgur.com/gallery/Iz10b |
| 03:38.28 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure they added a method to get the width of the text.. |
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| 03:39.50 | relaxok | when you GetWidth it's the same as the x value of Size right? i mean, logically the same |
| 03:40.14 | Semlar | Size? |
| 03:40.25 | relaxok | <Size> |
| 03:41.02 | Semlar | i have no idea what that is, but if it's the equivalent of SetSize then yes |
| 03:41.07 | relaxok | yes |
| 03:41.14 | Neffi | yes |
| 03:41.18 | relaxok | you dont know what the xml tag <Size> is? =p |
| 03:41.25 | Semlar | we never ever use xml |
| 03:41.27 | Semlar | ever |
| 03:41.34 | Kesava | GetStringWidth |
| 03:41.57 | relaxok | well, i'm looking at PanelTemplates_TabResize |
| 03:42.03 | relaxok | and it seems to work via GetWidth/SetWidth |
| 03:44.50 | Thunder_Child | Or if we do, we don't admit it. |
| 03:44.55 | relaxok | what's the big deal? |
| 03:45.06 | relaxok | (with xml) |
| 03:45.21 | relaxok | seems way easier to describe a whole new frame that way than pure lua |
| 03:47.15 | Neffi | <comment>not really</comment> |
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| 03:55.28 | Semlar | comments-out neffi |
| 03:55.50 | Neffi | hey Semlar, come rewatch all of Harry Potter with me |
| 03:55.54 | Semlar | i will not |
| 03:55.59 | Neffi | :( |
| 03:56.13 | Semlar | why are you not watching sexy vampire lawyer on hulu |
| 03:56.24 | Neffi | I forgot about it, actually |
| 03:56.34 | Semlar | NEFFI |
| 03:56.40 | Neffi | hides |
| 03:57.18 | Gethe_AFK | there is no hiding from Sexy Vampire Lawyer |
| 03:58.25 | relaxok | grumble grumble resizing |
| 04:02.40 | kullervo | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/462 |
| 04:02.47 | kullervo | "every 5 seconds" my ass :D |
| 04:05.03 | Semlar | i aim for 5 per frame |
| 04:10.05 | kullervo | wouldn't it be cool if addons had their own thread |
| 04:10.14 | relaxok | no? |
| 04:10.57 | relaxok | oh holy shit |
| 04:10.59 | relaxok | it worked |
| 04:11.08 | relaxok | sort of |
| 04:11.58 | Neffi | kullervo: I think Wildstar does that. Or at least a separate state |
| 04:13.05 | kullervo | at east the game would (in theory) remain playable even if the addons choke completely |
| 04:14.32 | Neffi | only guaranteed if they isolated them such that addons can't really do many useful things |
| 04:14.56 | Neffi | I want my addons to be able to improve or replace elements of the default UI and each other |
| 04:15.25 | Simca | i don't think he means every addon having its own thread |
| 04:15.27 | Simca | just like |
| 04:15.36 | Simca | one thread for game, one thread for UI + addons |
| 04:15.45 | Simca | rather than wow's one thread for game + UI |
| 04:16.10 | Neffi | well what will that solve? lock that thread or break something vital, and the UI is screwed anyway |
| 04:16.46 | kullervo | it's nice to look pretty when dying |
| 04:18.04 | Simca | yes Neffi but the UI wouldn't directly control action buttons, so you could still play the game |
| 04:18.17 | Simca | just UI elements would be frozen |
| 04:18.31 | Simca | it wouldn't look pretty, but it would look better than WoW's completely frozen screen |
| 04:18.58 | Neffi | or, just, you know, disable broken/outdated addons |
| 04:19.44 | Fisker | http://gfycat.com/ComposedMediocreBagworm <-true words have never been spoken |
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| 04:38.36 | Mr_Rabies | argh |
| 04:38.52 | Mr_Rabies | one of my guildies is getting Transfer Aborted: Instance not Found with Dalaran |
| 04:39.09 | Mr_Rabies | been happening since patch day |
| 04:39.17 | Mr_Rabies | 6.0.2 that is |
| 04:41.29 | relaxok | sounds horrible |
| 04:49.55 | Mr_Rabies | what port does wow typically communicate over? gonna see if i can pin down this CRZ server's ip and see if he can ping it |
| 04:55.37 | tz | 3724 / 1119 |
| 04:55.41 | tz | lol |
| 04:55.46 | tz | 3724 or 1119 |
| 04:55.55 | tz | apparently it did division for me automatically |
| 04:56.16 | tz | I can see that being dangerous :S |
| 05:06.31 | Mr_Rabies | wish i could figure this out, but it sounds like a routing issue to one of the CRZ realms |
| 05:15.06 | karl_w_w | I don't know how to type on the internet without using Kappa any more |
| 05:17.04 | karl_w_w | HotS has the longest loading times |
| 05:17.18 | Stanzilla | it's because of the sc2 crap engine |
| 05:20.50 | Semlar | Simca: how much do you know about the m2 model format |
| 05:21.09 | Simca | some |
| 05:21.32 | Semlar | my friend's trying to make a model viewer or something and he isn't sure what some of the columns do |
| 05:21.42 | Simca | probably more the vast majority of addon authors, but less than those into modding |
| 05:21.47 | Semlar | or what the flags are supposed to mean for the particle emitter struct |
| 05:22.05 | Mr_Rabies | man |
| 05:22.08 | Semlar | any idea where he should go to find out more |
| 05:22.11 | Simca | yeah |
| 05:22.12 | Simca | PXR |
| 05:22.15 | Mr_Rabies | i remember when i made all the rabbit models into ragnaros |
| 05:22.17 | Mr_Rabies | good times |
| 05:22.19 | Simca | sec |
| 05:22.31 | Semlar | i think he's already looking at pxr |
| 05:22.40 | Semlar | the wiki anyway |
| 05:22.42 | Simca | ah, yeah |
| 05:22.52 | Simca | http://www.pxr.dk/wowdev/wiki/index.php?title=M2/WotLK is probably the best m2 documentation, even if outdated |
| 05:23.04 | Simca | particle emitter struct isn't well known by anyone, honestly |
| 05:23.15 | Simca | look at wowhead's model viewer or mmoc's model viewer |
| 05:23.21 | Simca | both choke horribly on 95% of particles |
| 05:23.52 | Semlar | alright |
| 05:24.03 | Simca | relaxok might actually know more than anyone else on this specific subject |
| 05:25.51 | Simca | if your friend knows his way around assembly (or has IDA 6.6 and knows his way around C), then the internal client of 18179 likely has the complete m2 structure |
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| 05:29.22 | Simca | if he's really interested; have him ask around in #modcraft on QuakeNet - it's probably the largest group of people with knowledge of the format |
| 05:29.54 | Semlar | thanks |
| 05:30.00 | Simca | yep |
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| 06:25.28 | karl_w_w | i think Arrowmaster is enjoying that SC2 engine right now :P |
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| 06:45.13 | Arrowmaster | the rejoining fucking sucks |
| 06:45.46 | Arrowmaster | its like it has to run through the replay of the entire match upto the current point till you can join back in |
| 07:00.57 | karl_w_w | oh my god there's a bacon wiki |
| 07:02.44 | MiRai | and you haven't shared the link yet? |
| 07:03.54 | karl_w_w | http://bacon.wikia.com/wiki/Bacon_Wiki |
| 07:04.55 | MiRai | fantastic |
| 07:05.33 | Semlar | is this a meat graph? |
| 07:06.02 | MiRai | it's a historical timeline |
| 07:06.24 | MiRai | I'm learning so much |
| 07:07.34 | Semlar | these people are basically bacon archaeologists |
| 07:18.17 | MiRai | porkaeologists |
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| 07:39.42 | Cairenn | that just sounds wrong MiRai |
| 07:41.16 | MiRai | ;) |
| 07:41.53 | Semlar | probably better than porkaholics though |
| 07:42.05 | Mr_Rabies | hey |
| 07:42.18 | Mr_Rabies | my town is the leading exporter of porkahol |
| 07:45.04 | Stanzilla | better than pocahontas |
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| 08:21.18 | karl_w_w | if something recedes what is it's resulting state? |
| 08:21.20 | karl_w_w | recessed? |
| 08:22.41 | Constie | Receded. |
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| 08:55.42 | Mr_Rabies | ughhh |
| 08:55.55 | Mr_Rabies | getting tired of people who aren't me (the tank) pulling in these lowish-level dungeons |
| 08:56.21 | Mr_Rabies | someone decided to open the tobacco box AND the mailbox right after i pulled the courier in strat |
| 08:57.41 | Constie | Welcome to dungeons! |
| 09:01.27 | Mr_Rabies | which wipes us |
| 09:01.46 | Mr_Rabies | pretty sure one of the people who pulled extra shit also didn't run back |
| 09:01.56 | Mr_Rabies | so our dps runs ahead of me and pulls it all again |
| 09:02.00 | Mr_Rabies | i bubble and leave party |
| 09:02.22 | Kalroth | sounds like a l2p issue |
| 09:11.18 | Maldivia | Merry geeky Christmas everyone :) |
| 09:11.57 | Kalroth | wait what |
| 09:12.43 | Cairenn | hehhehe, and to you Maldivia |
| 09:14.08 | Cairenn | (although it's not until tomorrow, here) |
| 09:22.48 | Maldivia | Cairenn: well, the North American continent is always a bit behind :D |
| 09:22.58 | Cairenn | this is not news |
| 09:24.49 | Mr_Rabies | in celebration i present this incredibly spooky video [spooky warning] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVrYbKBrI7o |
| 09:26.51 | Mr_Rabies | furthermore, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ_qJ7esLZo |
| 09:49.34 | karl_w_w | Isn't it time somebody made a GPU that doesn't have to draw the entire frame every time? |
| 09:50.22 | karl_w_w | I imagine you could get a lot more FPS if you just had to show the changes |
| 09:50.58 | nevcairiel | you still have to compute most of the scene to know what changed |
| 09:51.11 | nevcairiel | advanced light effects are rather complex in that regard |
| 09:51.27 | karl_w_w | ah yeah I didn't think of that |
| 10:12.36 | karl_w_w | oh my god |
| 10:13.06 | karl_w_w | you can make windows cmd always have administrator privileges |
| 10:13.13 | Fisker | oh? |
| 10:13.35 | karl_w_w | with a simple registry entry |
| 10:13.42 | karl_w_w | [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers] |
| 10:13.42 | karl_w_w | "C:\\Windows\\System32\\cmd.exe"="~ RUNASADMIN" |
| 10:14.06 | Fisker | Oh so just hacking the compatibillity thing |
| 10:14.08 | Fisker | boring |
| 10:14.24 | karl_w_w | it even works with the 'open command window here' thing |
| 10:14.51 | karl_w_w | my life has been made significantly easier |
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| 10:53.39 | relaxok | what is the deal with the start of e.g. Blizzard_AuthChallengeUI.lua? what does |
| 10:53.50 | relaxok | local _, tbl = ...; possibly do at the top of a lua file? |
| 10:57.42 | nevcairiel | every addon gets provided two arguments, the name and a table to store stuff in |
| 10:57.51 | nevcairiel | so using local name, tbl = ... references both |
| 10:58.22 | relaxok | how do you provide arguments when you're just doing dofile on it basically? |
| 10:59.41 | relaxok | is it just stuff on the stack? |
| 11:00.34 | nevcairiel | presumably it wraps it into a function call which then gets the arguments provided |
| 11:01.45 | nevcairiel | ie, you can use loadfile instead of dofile and then pass the params to the function it returns |
| 11:02.02 | nevcairiel | loadfile("file.lua")(name, table) |
| 11:03.05 | nevcairiel | name is the actual addon name, ie. in your case Blizzard_AuthChallengeUI i assume, and table is the same table for all files in that addon, and a new table for the next addon, etc |
| 11:04.52 | relaxok | huh, okay.. i didnt really suspect the lua files would have to be handled any differently than the ones in a non-addon toc |
| 11:05.48 | nevcairiel | its a relatively new thing |
| 11:05.52 | nevcairiel | maybe 4.0 or so? |
| 11:06.11 | relaxok | havent used loadfile in the c api, lets see |
| 11:16.25 | doub_ | relaxok: all lua scripts are compiled to a function, which can receive arguments, and "..." is the syntax to access them in the code |
| 11:21.44 | relaxok | yeah i didnt know entire files were |
| 11:22.40 | relaxok | that worked, nevcairiel |
| 11:22.45 | relaxok | thanks |
| 11:22.55 | relaxok | now to implement setfenv whatever that is |
| 11:23.18 | doub_ | what are you trying to do? |
| 11:24.23 | relaxok | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14290527/recreating-setfenv-in-lua-5-2http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14290527/recreating-setfenv-in-lua-5-2 |
| 11:24.27 | relaxok | oops pasted twice |
| 11:24.45 | relaxok | doub_: re-coding the ui backend basically |
| 11:25.07 | doub_ | and you can't build your lua 5.2 with compatibility on? |
| 11:25.49 | karl_w_w | yahoo answers is fantastic sometimes :D https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20141030032912AANmCC9 |
| 11:28.28 | relaxok | doub_: dont really know about that |
| 11:28.44 | doub_ | are you compiling lua yourself? |
| 11:31.00 | relaxok | yes |
| 11:31.26 | doub_ | then there are options in luaconf.h that you can change to get setfenv |
| 11:31.53 | Xuerian | doub_: How long have you been hanging out here and intercepting problems at the source? :p |
| 11:32.41 | doub_ | i've been here a week or so, and not very active besides my own issues :D |
| 11:33.16 | relaxok | doub_: i'll check it out |
| 11:33.46 | Kalroth | doub is too clever to be a newbie, he's likely an FBI informant!! |
| 11:34.08 | doub_ | i'm a newbie here, but a #lua veteran :D |
| 11:34.23 | Neffi | doub_ is a sleeper agent come to hunt you down |
| 11:34.42 | Xuerian | doub_: Started feeding the Cracken? RIP. |
| 11:35.29 | doub_ | i'm not sure what you mean, who is the cracken here? |
| 11:35.48 | Xuerian | (Crack as in WoW :p) |
| 11:36.25 | Xuerian | I don't make good jokes on two hours sleep. |
| 11:36.27 | Kalroth | he's just tired of us leaking newbies to #lua, now he's here to prevent it |
| 11:37.10 | Xuerian | That's what I thought, but from the sound of it he's started chasing Puff the Magic Dragonkin, Kalroth |
| 11:37.17 | Kalroth | that's fine with me |
| 11:37.27 | relaxok | i see compatibility defines but from googling around they dont do anything for setfen |
| 11:37.27 | relaxok | v |
| 11:37.30 | doub_ | maybe i'm here to steal your noobs |
| 11:37.35 | relaxok | im going to nop it for th emoment and hope it doesnt matter in wow |
| 11:37.37 | Kalroth | hands over Fisker |
| 11:37.37 | nevcairiel | you can have them |
| 11:37.57 | nevcairiel | relaxok: setfenv is used in addons often enough, not sure about the default UI |
| 11:38.24 | relaxok | yeah i see it being fired which is why i need to do something with it |
| 11:38.34 | relaxok | but i dont know enough about how it works to know if it will actually make ethings not-work |
| 11:39.06 | doub_ | relaxok: ah, my bad, i thought there was a compat option for setfenv, but there isn't |
| 11:39.45 | nevcairiel | setfenv is so handy, why would lua get rid of that |
| 11:39.51 | relaxok | oh great, need to do something with ScopedModifier too |
| 11:40.12 | relaxok | ignoring setfenv got me a bit further lol |
| 11:40.15 | Neffi | because environments are now the first upvalue of a compiled chunk and global accesses are just syntactic sugar for that |
| 11:41.10 | nevcairiel | thats not an explanation |
| 11:41.38 | nevcairiel | that sounds like they wanted to change internals and setfenv didnt fit into their new design, so they just conveniently got rid of it because it was easier |
| 11:42.16 | relaxok | next item is there's some code-set enum names in Blizzard_StoreUISecure.lua e.g. LE_STORE_ERROR_INVALID_PAYMENT_METHOD |
| 11:42.33 | relaxok | since i likely can't dump those ingame i will just do them in order they show up |
| 11:42.59 | nevcairiel | you can dump their values in game, they are all global |
| 11:43.20 | relaxok | you sure? i tried with another enum that was in gluexml and it didnt exist in frame |
| 11:43.24 | nevcairiel | although you would probably need to like iterate over the global table and name match them to find them all |
| 11:43.42 | nevcairiel | well gluexml stuff may not exist ingame |
| 11:43.51 | relaxok | ill try first |
| 11:45.31 | relaxok | yeah no dice in game |
| 11:45.50 | relaxok | i guess since im making the enum, it doesn't matter anyway! |
| 11:45.52 | doub_ | gluexml is the login screen |
| 11:52.46 | relaxok | i know i have done a ton with gluexml |
| 11:53.12 | relaxok | alright lets see if this is the last thing keeping this first set of addons from loading |
| 11:58.16 | relaxok | oh of course, getfenv |
| 12:11.41 | karl_w_w | nevcairiel, make me a grilled cheese apple, and bacon sandwich please |
| 12:12.01 | karl_w_w | s/se/se,/ |
| 12:12.02 | nevcairiel | i'm out of bacon :( |
| 12:12.14 | nevcairiel | also apple on a sandwich? |
| 12:12.21 | karl_w_w | damn straight |
| 12:13.42 | relaxok | ever have banana + peanut butter on a bagel? |
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| 12:15.46 | karl_w_w | ever had banana and honey on a(n english) muffin? |
| 12:15.47 | Kalroth | first a layer of real butter, then nutella, then banana, then peanut butter and finally another layer of nutella |
| 12:16.06 | Kalroth | on each slide of toast of course |
| 12:16.10 | Kalroth | slice* |
| 12:16.18 | karl_w_w | I'm not sure how it's possible to construct those layers Kalroth |
| 12:16.36 | Kalroth | karl_w_w: with careful precision |
| 12:16.46 | karl_w_w | you could just go for the elvis classic |
| 12:16.55 | karl_w_w | banana peanut butter and bacon |
| 12:21.30 | Fisker | looks for Lopeppeppy |
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| 12:38.29 | Lopeppeppy | I found me! |
| 12:47.24 | Constie | You did it! |
| 12:48.08 | g0urra | Congrats! |
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| 12:48.58 | Torhal | hides Lopeppeppy with Waldo. |
| 12:49.30 | Torhal | s/Waldo/Wally/ |
| 12:49.37 | Torhal | drinks moar tea. |
| 12:52.52 | Lopeppeppy | Do I get to keep the funny hat, Torhal? |
| 12:53.02 | Torhal | Sure! |
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| 12:58.44 | karl_w_w | an interesting exercise: at the end of the day work out how much sodium you consumed that day |
| 12:58.58 | karl_w_w | then compare to the RDA |
| 13:00.42 | Torhal | I consume much more than the RDA. Then again, I'm constantly drinking water. |
| 13:00.58 | karl_w_w | how are those 2 things related |
| 13:01.21 | Torhal | I'm flushing the salt and potassium out of my system, so it needs to be replenished. |
| 13:01.25 | Torhal | Keto. |
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| 13:11.11 | karl_w_w | wait, so this is a diet where I can eat all the chocolate and bacon I want? |
| 13:15.02 | Sharparam | oh |
| 13:15.08 | Sharparam | playmusic is supposedly fixed now |
| 13:17.24 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: you use debian testing right? |
| 13:24.39 | Xuerian | <Slowbrow> Man, the WoD CM skins are awesome. |
| 13:34.30 | Kraps | who do rgb values produce different colors in different programs on the same screen? |
| 13:34.34 | Kraps | why? |
| 13:36.56 | Lopeppeppy | Because your screen is finicky? |
| 13:37.51 | Kraps | i dont think so |
| 13:48.34 | g0urra | how the hell can someone be allowed to install a 64 bit OS on a laptop with 2GB RAM |
| 13:48.40 | g0urra | this is outright criminal |
| 13:50.01 | g0urra | http://pastebin.com/Vdb9Y357 |
| 13:50.40 | relaxok | apparently there is a frameStrata BLIZZARD |
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| 13:50.59 | Ackis | pompy, Arrowmaster: True Achievements App for XB1 was released |
| 13:52.10 | pompy | Ackis: niice. |
| 13:54.19 | Torhal | Holy shit! Ackis is alive! |
| 13:54.55 | Constie | One hopes. |
| 13:55.02 | Ackis | imma zombie |
| 13:55.09 | Ackis | coding for sharepoint does that to a man |
| 13:55.16 | smcn | why a zombie why not a ghost |
| 13:55.32 | tlund | g0urra: how is a 64bit OS worse than a 32bit OS on a computer with 2GB ram?! |
| 13:55.54 | g0urra | because it's completely unnecessary |
| 13:56.01 | tlund | no. no, it is not. |
| 13:56.14 | tlund | "64 bit" does not just mean "can address more RAM". |
| 13:56.24 | tlund | it means "can use 64-bit instructions" |
| 13:56.53 | tlund | g0urra: never mind. I see from reading your previous comments on the channel that you are not smart enough to be in a discussion about this, |
| 13:57.51 | g0urra | I'd ask what you mean by "can use 64-bit instructions", but it seems you no longer want to continue this. |
| 13:58.19 | Ackis | I run two copies of wow at the same time... I'm running 128 bit wow you newbs |
| 13:59.27 | tlund | where was 64-bit wow when I wanted to fly north from dalaran with maximum graphics settings back in WotLK?! :( |
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| 14:25.22 | Sharparam | @ Torhal / curseforge admins: enabled packager and pushed one tag (v4.4) to it, result: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/chocobo/repositories/mainline/packager/ |
| 14:25.45 | Sharparam | it packaged tag v4.3 (previous) with regular and nolib, but v4.4 was only packaged as nolib |
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| 14:26.14 | Sharparam | it seems to be having that "queue" issue again |
| 14:26.33 | nevcairiel | that happens when you push old tags after a repo type conversion |
| 14:26.41 | nevcairiel | will people never learn not to push olds tags :D |
| 14:26.43 | Sharparam | this is a new tag :P |
| 14:26.47 | Sharparam | i only pushed the one tag too |
| 14:27.06 | Sharparam | https://gist.github.com/Sharparam/c4da91a0b84e89bb29b8 |
| 14:27.08 | nevcairiel | it wouldnt invent a 4.3 tag, so you must've pushed it |
| 14:27.22 | Sharparam | might've pushed it in the past, but i certainly didn't push it now |
| 14:27.35 | nevcairiel | well if the packager was turned off until then |
| 14:28.00 | Sharparam | it has, and an admin (i think Kaelten ?) told me to reenable and push to see if the issue is resolved |
| 14:28.29 | Kaelten | don't remembe,r I know I fixed some issues with svn this morning, but this is outside the scope of that I think |
| 14:29.58 | Sharparam | any way to fix? :P |
| 14:32.34 | Sharparam | the interesting thing is: "Creating zip for v4.4", but no "Uploading v4.4 zip" |
| 14:34.14 | pompy | "Congratulations you've been selected to participate in the Evolve Big Alpha - just a taste of the 4v1 action you'll get when Evolve releases on February 10th." |
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| 14:39.35 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: could it be that git daemon just died? i can't checkout a bunch of things |
| 14:40.03 | Sharparam | inb4 git died because chocobo |
| 14:42.58 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: I recycled in earlier today :/ |
| 14:43.33 | Kaelten | ugh it's not letting go of the port it seems |
| 14:46.15 | Kaelten | reboot the server |
| 14:47.02 | Fisker | recycles Kaelten |
| 14:47.31 | Kaelten | nevcairiel try now? |
| 14:47.48 | nevcairiel | seems to work again, thanks |
| 14:55.09 | Torhal | Sharparam: You're good to go, now. |
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| 15:17.49 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: i dont have an xb1 |
| 15:18.02 | Arrowmaster | jleclanche: yes |
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| 16:02.27 | Thunder_Child | Anyone know how to modify a dolphin service menu to create a keybind and/or add it to the keybind menu? |
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| 16:46.51 | Arrowmaster | this sucks, my hots daily is to play as a specialist hero and i dont have any unlocked |
| 16:49.22 | Arrowmaster | and i cant purchase any because purchasing it broken on wine |
| 17:01.07 | Thunder_Child | whispers 'windows'..... |
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| 17:37.42 | Thunder_Child | Don't forget today starts a steam sale. |
| 17:38.48 | nevcairiel | random autumn sale? |
| 17:38.54 | Thunder_Child | Halloween |
| 17:38.59 | nevcairiel | so, yes |
| 17:39.04 | Thunder_Child | Not random though. |
| 17:39.21 | nevcairiel | if you're not in the US, its just a random day in the year |
| 17:40.54 | Thunder_Child | But Murica is the center of the cosmos, so obviously you are wrong. |
| 17:56.13 | karl_w_w | on the subjects of american dates and shopping, is it called black friday because of the number of people who die in shopping related accidents? |
| 17:57.10 | Constie | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(shopping)#Origin_of_the_term |
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| 18:30.17 | karl_w_w | http://www.williams-sonoma.com/shopping/high-tech-kitchen-equipment/ these people need a dictionary |
| 18:31.11 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/47c72 |
| 18:31.24 | Stanzilla | bye sslv3 https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/security-dev/Vnhy9aKM_l4 |
| 18:31.30 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/T0CXFOQ |
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| 18:44.20 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: The tech might be in the construction/materials, and not the components. |
| 18:57.58 | Fisker | Maldivia |
| 18:58.04 | Fisker | Did you still want an invite? |
| 18:58.14 | Maldivia | Fisker: yes please |
| 18:58.44 | Fisker | 2 inbox invites first ones to claim them gets them |
| 18:58.50 | Maldivia | thanks |
| 18:58.58 | Thunder_Child | I don't want one! |
| 19:00.34 | Stanzilla | jleclanche: jerome |
| 19:01.05 | jleclanche | Fisker: yeah I need a couple |
| 19:01.12 | jleclanche | whatever you have left that is |
| 19:01.17 | Stanzilla | jleclanche: I invited the person |
| 19:01.20 | Stanzilla | you gave me the email |
| 19:01.20 | Fisker | :o |
| 19:01.33 | jleclanche | oh i have some invites too |
| 19:01.53 | Stanzilla | just remember not to invite that friend then :po |
| 19:02.32 | Fisker | Yeah jleclanche |
| 19:02.35 | Fisker | looks like we all got 3 again |
| 19:02.39 | Fisker | I already gave mine away btw |
| 19:02.51 | jleclanche | yeah its fine I got plenty now |
| 19:03.26 | pompy | http://money.cnn.com/2014/10/10/news/wells-fargo-email-blast-raise/index.html?iid=obnetwork derp |
| 19:03.31 | karl_w_w | what's an inbox and why would I want an invite to one? |
| 19:04.48 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: its an alternate interface to gmail for people who like inbox zero |
| 19:04.54 | jleclanche | (tldr) |
| 19:05.05 | karl_w_w | ah |
| 19:05.44 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: give |
| 19:05.46 | jleclanche | I still have some left, who else? |
| 19:05.49 | Arrowmaster | me |
| 19:05.54 | jleclanche | pm email please |
| 19:06.03 | Arrowmaster | me @ gmail |
| 19:06.12 | jleclanche | sent |
| 19:06.19 | Fisker | me?! |
| 19:06.24 | Fisker | bring back /me |
| 19:06.53 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: do you know how to fix a broken gitolite-over-fcgi setup |
| 19:06.57 | karl_w_w | free the springfield me, marge! |
| 19:07.04 | Arrowmaster | no sorry |
| 19:07.26 | Arrowmaster | dont know anything about fcgi |
| 19:08.59 | Arrowmaster | rebooting another laptop in the room and i heard a weird noise and got concerned, then i realized it was the usb floppy drive plugged into it checking for a disk |
| 19:10.07 | Stanzilla | floppy drive |
| 19:10.12 | Stanzilla | okay Arrowmaster |
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| 19:13.33 | nevcairiel | seriously |
| 19:20.33 | Sharparam | Torhal: back, i deleted the files packaged before, can i push v4.4 again to package it? |
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| 19:29.03 | Torhal | Sharparam: Erm, I packaged it...so if you deleted it you need to push a new tag. |
| 19:29.18 | Torhal | [09:55:09] <Torhal> Sharparam: You're good to go, now. |
| 19:29.26 | Sharparam | i only deleted the ones made by the packager |
| 19:29.29 | Sharparam | i haven't checked recently |
| 19:29.46 | Sharparam | ah |
| 19:29.53 | Sharparam | yeah these ones are fine, thank you :) |
| 19:29.57 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 19:29.58 | Torhal | You scared me |
| 19:30.01 | Sharparam | :P |
| 19:30.09 | Torhal | I was like "I answered him 10 minutes after he said there was a problem!" |
| 19:30.14 | Torhal | Heh |
| 19:30.18 | Sharparam | ^^ |
| 19:30.40 | Torhal | Oh, guess not. My IRC client went wonky. |
| 19:30.47 | Torhal | Was 9:55 CDT |
| 19:30.55 | Sharparam | compact disk time huh |
| 19:41.12 | karl_w_w | way better than vinyl time /20yearolddebates |
| 19:54.46 | Arrowmaster | this is a very strange movie |
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| 19:58.18 | zenzelezz | porn? |
| 19:58.50 | Unkle | Wow. Arrive and the first word I see is "porn." |
| 19:59.14 | Thunder_Child | You just live a blessed life Unkle. |
| 20:00.17 | Fisker | topic was related to your arrival Unkle |
| 20:00.30 | Constie | They know. |
| 20:01.18 | Unkle | Rule 34. |
| 20:01.37 | Fisker | looks |
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| 20:16.46 | Stanzilla | pompy: http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/aW0GwBd_460s.jpg |
| 20:17.31 | Maldivia | but it wasn't NASA, it was a private contractor... |
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| 20:20.01 | pompy | Maldivia: but it was NASA-contracted, so they are still involved, whoever made that meme isn't too familiar with Orbital |
| 20:31.08 | Mr_Rabies | is there anything like alttabber that's in active development still? |
| 20:31.30 | Mr_Rabies | something that'll play sound effects for various invites, etc, even with sound turned off? |
| 20:33.18 | Stanzilla | I have my own alttabber fork that somewhat works but playsoundfile() is a bit broken atm, not sure 6.0.3 fixed all of it |
| 20:34.23 | Mr_Rabies | it was supposed to have but yeah, ui bugs |
| 20:34.38 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: just convert to ogg and never have any problems |
| 20:35.20 | Stanzilla | so you say |
| 20:36.00 | zenzelezz | "Certain developers were allocating memory before it was cool. They are called heapsters" |
| 20:43.16 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: and those that remember to release it again were free spirited? |
| 20:47.37 | Unkle | Heading out to LA tonight to visit friends before BlizzCon. See you guys from the road or at the show. |
| 20:47.52 | Fisker | Nice trip |
| 20:47.58 | Thunder_Child | You ain't visiting me Unkle, wtf! |
| 20:48.11 | Thunder_Child | Just kidding. |
| 20:50.21 | Unkle | Thunder_Child: Hah. I'll be out by LAX and then in Hollywood before Anaheim. |
| 20:50.48 | Thunder_Child | One by work, one by home. |
| 20:55.05 | Unkle | I'm going to a Halloween party tomorrow night but the rest of the weekend is open-ish of you want to grab lunch or something. |
| 20:59.28 | Unkle | And on that note, ciao! |
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| 21:05.00 | kd3 | ouch. had to give the bad news to a family friend that her computer got nailed by cryptowall :( |
| 21:05.45 | Semlar | what's this about getting nailed? |
| 21:07.57 | Thunder_Child | Interesting, says that it does not work on win8. |
| 21:08.43 | Thunder_Child | Well at least symantic said that. |
| 21:09.55 | pompy | Thunder_Child: https://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?/topic/150193-removal-instructions-for-cryptowall/ |
| 21:10.21 | Thunder_Child | pompy: Why are you linking that to me? |
| 21:12.31 | pompy | dunno! |
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| 21:20.31 | Jamash | I pay for subway sandwiches with blood |
| 21:21.09 | Thunder_Child | Bloody stool? |
| 21:21.40 | Jamash | more literal, less gross |
| 21:21.58 | Thunder_Child | Blood donation |
| 21:22.09 | Jamash | why wasn't that your *first* guess? |
| 21:22.29 | Thunder_Child | You wouldn't need to ask that if you knew me. |
| 21:22.38 | Jamash | because you're a terrible person |
| 21:22.51 | Thunder_Child | That's an answer. |
| 21:23.18 | Thunder_Child | Although I don't think my response was really in 'terrible person' category. |
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| 22:57.40 | relaxok | hmm so.. TokenFrame doesn't exist until the TokenUI addon is loaded.. but the CharacterFrame.lua tries to access it as a global in a situation where it wont have been necessarily loaded yet |
| 22:58.05 | relaxok | is it possible to put the lua state in a mode where it won't bail if you try to index an invalid global? like it will keep going |
| 22:58.15 | relaxok | otherwise i don't see how this behavior is possible |
| 22:58.50 | relaxok | CharacterFrame_ShowSubFrame iterates through the subframe pairs, one of which is TokenFrame |
| 22:59.16 | relaxok | but if you have showTokenFrame cvar off and don't have any tokens, the TokenUI addon is never loaded |
| 22:59.22 | relaxok | so TokenFrame isnt created |
| 23:01.44 | relaxok | so trying to call :Hide on it would make lua bail |
| 23:02.31 | kd3 | ugh, resorted to nuking and paving that system. at least she had the important stuff backed up (2 days ago!) and was able to recover everything important |
| 23:03.38 | kd3 | still, what a piece of shit, dealing with CryptoLocker |
| 23:03.47 | kd3 | hope those guys find their nuts in a vice |
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| 23:16.19 | ZorbaTHut | isn't there a cryptolocker decryption tool now? |
| 23:17.30 | kd3|hate`net | I tried it, it didn't work for "CryptoWall 2.0" |
| 23:17.37 | ZorbaTHut | ah, welp |
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| 23:30.40 | Arrowmaster | i just threw random costume shit on and sat outside giving out candy, was quite the sight |
| 23:31.20 | Arrowmaster | tattoo sleves, chainmail tie, horse head mask, holding one of my big war axes |
| 23:42.43 | foxlit | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info23234-GnomeSequencer.html << Dammit Semlar. |
| 23:43.41 | Torhal | Did Semlar break the planet again? |
| 23:45.02 | foxlit | mash-a-button-to-cast-every-ability was intentionally broken with /castrandom back in 3.2.0. |
| 23:46.15 | Semlar | i didn't do nuffin |
| 23:46.32 | Semlar | these people are still complaining |
| 23:47.24 | foxlit | these people will never stop complaining; now we'll just have to remove secure handlers from the game. |
| 23:48.05 | Semlar | as far as i can tell they want the macro to just pick what they should cast for them |
| 23:49.05 | foxlit | duh. |
| 23:49.09 | Torhal | Did you politely tell them that facerolling isn't actually an effective means of playing? |
| 23:49.33 | Semlar | i did that on the blizzard forum and then got downvoted into oblivion |
| 23:49.47 | Semlar | i don't think that's what they want to hear |
| 23:49.54 | kd3 | the correct answer to that is - don't post on the blizzard forum? |
| 23:49.59 | Semlar | oh good point |
| 23:50.13 | Semlar | that's why i stopped doing that |
| 23:50.15 | Torhal | Bad Semlar! BAD! |
| 23:50.25 | Torhal | Oh, you've made amends. |
| 23:50.55 | foxlit | point is, even the limited behavior that you do allow was intentionally removed from the game. Reimplementing it is just going to end badly. |
| 23:52.31 | Semlar | oh come on, all it does is cast a sequence of spells when you press a button |
| 23:52.46 | foxlit | all /castrandom did was attempt to cast a random spell each time you ran it. |
| 23:52.55 | Semlar | i could use random() in the stepper |
| 23:53.01 | Semlar | that would improve things |
| 23:53.20 | foxlit | no, it wouldn't. |
| 23:53.23 | Semlar | oh |
| 23:54.00 | foxlit | /castrandom doesn't advance until it succeeds; meanwhile, you have no way of telling whether your cast succeeds or not -- no choice but to blindly pick the next spell. |
| 23:55.25 | foxlit | basically, the reason that http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/10192/ChatFrame.lua/diff#833 happened is that spam-one-button-to-cast-everything-even-when-it-doesn't-make-sense is not desirable gameplay. |
| 23:56.38 | Semlar | spamming the sequencer has its own issues since it doesn't have any way of knowing what's usable |
| 23:56.54 | Semlar | i don't think it's all that exploity |
| 23:57.16 | Semlar | i mean yeah it lets you hit the same button repeatedly to cast all your spells but all it does is move through a series of entries |
| 23:58.45 | foxlit | all /castrandom did was move through a series of entries randomly. |
| 23:59.01 | Mr_Rabies | is /castrandom kill? |
| 23:59.02 | Mr_Rabies | D: |
| 23:59.15 | Semlar | i think the problem with castrandom was that it preferred spells you could actually cast though |
| 23:59.50 | Semlar | or at least that's that way it seemed to behave |
