| 00:01.26 | Shirik | haste: Dagmar: gotten any 10x [Item] hacks yet? |
| 00:01.34 | Shirik | I've seen some 9x |
| 00:01.42 | Shirik | I'm curious if it goes to 10 |
| 00:29.44 | Shirik | welp, someone just posted a 12x hack, so that answers that question |
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| 00:35.17 | Mr_Rabies | do what now |
| 00:35.18 | Mr_Rabies | D: |
| 00:35.40 | fewyn | hack hack hackity hack |
| 00:36.25 | luxlunae | in ten years why can't they actually stop the item duping? |
| 00:36.34 | fewyn | because |
| 00:36.36 | fewyn | chicken butt |
| 00:37.15 | Thunder_Child | Because it's faster and cheaper to track people down and slap them for it then find out how it is being done in 10 years worth of code. |
| 00:37.22 | Thunder_Child | That's my guess anyway. |
| 00:37.48 | fewyn | or a fix probably "requires" a rewrite |
| 00:37.53 | fewyn | instead of a bandaid |
| 00:38.22 | kd3 | heh, wow, my account was flagged for 7 days of free time |
| 00:38.32 | Thunder_Child | Everyones was I think |
| 00:39.40 | luxlunae | really? |
| 00:40.00 | fewyn | maybe for all the server issues recently? |
| 00:40.20 | kd3 | the email said something about try 6.0.2 free for 7 days |
| 00:40.21 | luxlunae | mine didn't get anything but they are cancelled |
| 00:40.27 | fewyn | oh |
| 00:40.32 | fewyn | if your account is not active |
| 00:40.32 | kd3 | like I'm not subbed or something |
| 00:40.38 | luxlunae | not expired yet just canceled |
| 00:40.40 | fewyn | that makes sense then |
| 00:40.52 | Mr_Rabies | mine's active and i got an email |
| 00:41.56 | Mr_Rabies | there's a link on mmo-c, but it may not work unless you were selected for the promotion |
| 00:42.08 | kd3 | https://battle.net/account/management/wow/claim-promotion.html?promoId=SEVEN_DAYS_PROMOTION |
| 00:42.35 | Mr_Rabies | keylogger imo |
| 00:42.38 | Mr_Rabies | :v |
| 00:42.50 | Mr_Rabies | i manually typed the battle.net part of the link, personally |
| 00:43.02 | Mr_Rabies | copied the url, deleted the bnet part and readded it myself, from the email |
| 00:43.08 | Mr_Rabies | because i was like "what, this makes no sense" |
| 00:43.34 | fewyn | oh i got mine too |
| 00:43.35 | fewyn | interesting |
| 00:44.46 | fewyn | the email was titled "Fewyn -- The Iron Horde Invasion Begins! Fight Back with 7 Days of FREE Game Time" |
| 00:44.59 | fewyn | i hadn't actually read it until someone mentioned free game time |
| 00:45.12 | kd3 | yah, mine was 'kaydeethree' and not my real name, that really threw me off |
| 00:46.14 | plaw | email I got screwed up the UTF in the name and was barely readable >< |
| 00:46.26 | Torhal | I actually applied it to my account. |
| 00:46.35 | Torhal | So now I'm assuming my billing date will forever be altered. |
| 00:47.19 | Torhal | Oh, yeah. It's now the 23rd instead of the 16th :/ |
| 00:49.38 | kd3 | heh, that took about as long as I expected it to... http://mars.nasa.gov/participate/send-your-name/orion-first-flight/?s=confirm&cn=1171448 |
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| 00:54.03 | plaw | btw I hope all the crazy people updated all their pidgins to this week's release (cc Cairenn) |
| 00:55.46 | Gethe | that promotion would be better if it was like a day longer so I wouldnt miss a day waiting for my CE |
| 00:56.28 | Cairenn | plaw: it hadn't notified me that there was a new build, so no, but doing it now, thank you |
| 00:56.35 | Gethe | or if it expired a bit later |
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| 01:02.45 | plaw | Thunder_Child: btw needless to say, thanks for thinking of me |
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| 01:29.57 | Xandr | Is it possible to transform and crop a texture at the same time using :SetTexCoord? I've only been able to do either, but that wouldn't mean much, considering that I never really understood matrix transformations |
| 01:31.42 | ccox | of course they update the servers, but not the clients, while I'm testing something |
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| 01:44.40 | Seerah | Xandr: I'm 99.99% sure you can. |
| 01:46.00 | Thunder_Child | plaw: Granted, it's going to be harder to remember you are an Aussie. |
| 01:46.55 | Seerah | a texture has x coordinates 0-1 going left to right and y coordinates 0-1 going top to bottom. When you do texture:SetTexCoord(ULx, ULy, LLx, LLy, URx, URy, LRx, LRy) you are specifying the coordinate to place at those points. |
| 01:51.19 | Semlar | coordinates seerah |
| 01:52.33 | Shirik | I hate words that have two pronunciations for the same spelling |
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| 01:53.55 | Seerah | how about multiple spellings but the same pronunciation? ;) |
| 01:54.18 | Xandr | did I write the right rite down? |
| 01:54.38 | Seerah | write is slightly different than the other two |
| 01:54.53 | Seerah | to two, too. |
| 01:55.06 | farmbuyer | The worst imho is "immigrate" versus "emigrate". Nearly identical pronunciations, diametrically opposite meanings. |
| 01:55.33 | Seerah | immigrate starts with "ih" and emigrate starts with "eh" |
| 01:56.27 | farmbuyer | That's the "nearly" part, but depending on regional accent those can be terribly similar. :-( |
| 01:56.40 | farmbuyer | enh, it could be worse |
| 01:56.55 | farmbuyer | "people called Romanes they go the house"? |
| 01:57.29 | Shirik | here's a fun one |
| 01:57.44 | Shirik | how about the same word, two different pronunciations based on context |
| 01:58.04 | farmbuyer | "read" |
| 01:58.06 | Shirik | I've known I did this for a while, but I recently learned it is actually not just me but rather an accent |
| 01:58.21 | smcn | i found it interesting that council and counsel have entirely different etymology, i looked it up because of that horde quest in wod beta that still hasn't been corrected |
| 01:58.31 | farmbuyer | "read" as "red" as a past tense, but as "reed" as a present tense |
| 01:58.47 | Shirik | when saying "aunt" I say "awnt" when I'm referencing a person (Aunt Sharon) but I say "ant" when referring to the title, "my aunt" |
| 01:59.37 | Shirik | I said that backwards |
| 01:59.39 | Shirik | but you get the point |
| 02:00.07 | farmbuyer | I always heard it as "ant" growing up, was very confused the first time I heard "awnt". |
| 02:00.28 | Shirik | I had always known there were some people that said "awnt" and some people said "ant" |
| 02:00.43 | Shirik | but I didn't realize that the fact that I said both was not just an artifact of having heard both, but that there is a region in the US that does that |
| 02:10.31 | Mr_Rabies | okay, seems like repreward is dead. is there anything new that adds reputation reward info to the quest rewards? :o |
| 02:11.21 | Mr_Rabies | it's all rights reserved so no one can even resume it without permission, right? :/ |
| 02:12.28 | Semlar | right |
| 02:16.01 | Neffi | well you can but you'd be infringing on copyright and we will hunt you down |
| 02:16.21 | Neffi | you'll probably have to flee to Taiwan or somewhere and become a notorious pirate |
| 02:16.28 | Neffi | and then one day die of scurvy |
| 02:17.40 | Torhal | local daFuq = Neffi % Semlar |
| 02:18.04 | Semlar | 0 torhal |
| 02:18.07 | Torhal | Whoah. |
| 02:19.03 | Semlar | i can't figure out what the LFG finder does when you put a boss name in the search box |
| 02:19.22 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, same |
| 02:19.27 | Mr_Rabies | it seems like it checks the lockout? |
| 02:19.42 | Mr_Rabies | but not really? just like, if the boss is on the lockout list? |
| 02:19.48 | Semlar | it seems to still return results with that boss on the lockout |
| 02:19.55 | Semlar | but possibly less of them |
| 02:20.03 | Semlar | maybe because it always returns 100 results |
| 02:20.05 | Mr_Rabies | yeah i don't understand it in the least |
| 02:21.22 | Mr_Rabies | i'm honestly still confused as to why reputation isn't listed on the quest rewards natively |
| 02:21.40 | Mr_Rabies | the game clearly tells you how much rep each quest is worth, why not just slap it on there with the rest of the rewards |
| 02:37.29 | Xandr | hm, the texture widget has a :SetMask method since 6.0.2. anyone figured out how exactly it works? it seems to take one parameter "maskName" |
| 02:41.33 | Iriel | my guess is you give it the path to a mask |
| 02:41.41 | Iriel | frame.Counter.Icon:SetMask("Interface\\CharacterFrame\\TempPortraitAlphaMask"); |
| 02:41.44 | Iriel | for example |
| 02:42.01 | Semlar | i don't think so |
| 02:42.17 | Semlar | if i remember there are just preprogrammed masks |
| 02:42.25 | Iriel | I pasted that from blizzardâs code |
| 02:42.28 | Iriel | so iâd hope it works. |
| 02:43.18 | Semlar | try it with an arbitrary texture then |
| 02:47.05 | Iriel | ./Interface/CHARACTERFRAME/TempPortraitAlphaMask.blp |
| 02:47.08 | Iriel | Is part of the art pack |
| 02:48.14 | Xandr | calling :SetMask("Interface\\CharacterFrame\\TempPortraitAlphaMask"); on my texture simply makes it disappear |
| 02:52.11 | Semlar | works for me, but it clearly doesn't let me use a custom texture as a mask |
| 02:52.38 | Iriel | I wonder if the mask BLPâs are a single channel |
| 02:55.42 | Semlar | well, that texture is a solid white circle with a transparent background |
| 02:56.08 | Semlar | trying to copy that with a targa doesn't seem to work |
| 02:57.35 | Semlar | it makes the whole texture vanish |
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| 03:01.06 | Syllios | Hey guys, did they change the way GetSpellInfo(...) works? I'm testing out GetSpellInfo("Doom") on a demo warlock, but it's returning nil even though the spell is known. IsSpellKnown(603) also returns nil. |
| 03:01.15 | Xandr | that's what happens for me even with the blp that's included :( |
| 03:01.47 | Semlar | warlocks have a spell called doom? |
| 03:01.56 | Syllios | The debuff |
| 03:02.12 | Syllios | It's shown as 603 @ spellbook |
| 03:02.36 | Semlar | you sure? it's marked as uncategorized on wowhead |
| 03:02.44 | Neffi | yeah, it might have changed |
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| 03:03.46 | Semlar | it's definitely in your spellbook? |
| 03:04.24 | Syllios | Yeah it's on the spellbook. I hadn't noticed it was under uncategorized though. that's interesting |
| 03:06.20 | Xandr | hmpf server restart |
| 03:06.40 | Xandr | I guess I take this as a sign to go sleep. |
| 03:17.35 | Simca | hahaha http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/i-hate-trains |
| 03:18.57 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:19.24 | Syllios | that's a legit addon right there. |
| 03:27.00 | Primer | Ok, Blizz is seriously pissing me off with this Oceanic thing |
| 03:27.25 | Primer | https://twitter.com/Bashiok/status/525758836112502784 Another non-answer |
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| 03:34.02 | Kesava | it's not a non-answer |
| 03:34.03 | Kesava | it's "no" |
| 03:36.35 | Simca | i would keep pushing |
| 03:36.52 | Simca | it's probably something they haven't adequately considered |
| 03:38.24 | Ironii | isn't oceanic realms meant for australia etc? |
| 03:38.52 | Simca | yeah it's kind of their fault for choosing a realm desired for another area |
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| 03:39.32 | Simca | but on the other hand, it was widely known the servers were still in NA and there were never any indications that that would change |
| 03:40.47 | Ironii | but why would you choose a server thats on different timezone |
| 03:45.16 | Ironii | only reasons i can think about for choosing different timezone are: friends, guild, better fit for schelude |
| 03:45.26 | Ironii | none of those things change |
| 03:45.38 | Ironii | so why the whining |
| 03:46.26 | Simca | maybe they like their friends but they like 50ms latency more |
| 03:46.32 | Simca | lol |
| 03:46.40 | Ironii | :D |
| 03:50.26 | Ironii | Syllios did you try GetSpellInfo('Doom') inside or outside of demon form? |
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| 03:50.48 | Ironii | im guessing you don't actually know the spell when you are outside demon form |
| 03:50.55 | Syllios | Both forms |
| 03:51.34 | Syllios | I noticed all the ones that say "Metamorphosis" return nil, even when in metamorphosis |
| 03:51.50 | Ironii | what are you trying to do? |
| 03:51.58 | Syllios | Just check if the player knows a spell |
| 03:52.23 | Syllios | I didn't want to have to do something like iterate over the spell book, but i might just have to |
| 03:53.20 | Ironii | if GetSpellInfo('Corruption') == 'Doom' works |
| 03:54.24 | Ironii | well, im assuming it works |
| 03:54.36 | Ironii | since GetSpellInfo('Corruption) returns 'Doom' as spellname |
| 03:54.38 | Ironii | when you are in demon form |
| 03:54.50 | Syllios | mmm wtf... that's pretty weird, why does it do that? |
| 03:55.42 | Ironii | metamorphosis just changes the spells you have |
| 03:55.47 | Ironii | i guess thats the easiest way to do it |
| 03:56.44 | Syllios | Yeah it works. I don't like it at all though. Why would a spell called "Corruption" be "Doom"... |
| 03:57.37 | Ironii | 'urn into a demon, transforming your Corruption, Hand of Gul'dan, Hellfire, and Shadowbolt into alternate improved abilities,' |
| 03:58.06 | Syllios | yeah, it used to say that before, but it didn't behave like that. |
| 03:58.23 | Primer | Ironii: for raid times |
| 03:58.36 | Primer | At the time my guild moved, our raid time was 11PM US Pacific |
| 03:58.54 | Primer | Our realm was dead, and we couldn't find people. This was before realm connections. |
| 03:59.10 | Primer | So we moved to Frostmourne Oceanic, where 11PM US Pacific == 6PM Aus, prime time |
| 03:59.54 | Ironii | so you changed realms becouse its better fit for your guilds schelude, it still is, whats the problem? |
| 04:00.30 | Primer | Uhh |
| 04:00.37 | Primer | My realm is moving half way across the globe |
| 04:00.47 | Primer | increasing my latency substantially |
| 04:00.57 | Ironii | Syllios tbh i think thats a bug |
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| 04:01.19 | Ironii | Corruption should return doom info when in demon form, but GetSpellInfo('Doom') should also work |
| 04:01.43 | Primer | And Blizz is giving resident of Aus/NZ free transfers to these newly moved realms (read: they are currently NOT affected by this change), and not doing anything about US residents transferring off these realms (read: we are directly and adversely affected) |
| 04:01.43 | Ironii | atleast in demon form ;p |
| 04:02.04 | Syllios | yeah, that's how it used to be. oh well.. |
| 04:02.47 | Ironii | bug report gogo ;P |
| 04:04.10 | Ironii | actually, GetSpellInfo(603) (doom spellid) works just fine |
| 04:04.22 | Ironii | in and out of demon form |
| 04:05.29 | Syllios | yeah, but like i said, i wanted to know if the player knows the spell. GetSpellInfo(name) would return something if the spell is known. GetSpellInfo(id) will return something regardless |
| 04:06.11 | Ironii | true ;P |
| 04:07.26 | Syllios | Na, I think I'm just going to roll my own. This is the 3rd time i've had to change this piece of code. I'll just have to do a lookup on the spell book. |
| 04:09.20 | Ironii | why do you need to know if the spell is learned or not? |
| 04:10.20 | Syllios | Because the addon's hud depends on the spells |
| 04:33.22 | Primer | Have druid stances changed in 6.0? |
| 04:33.35 | Primer | A lot of my druid macros are broken |
| 04:34.42 | nebula169 | think flight and/or travel form might have changed |
| 04:35.02 | Primer | and gogomount isn't work for druid either |
| 04:37.08 | Primer | Can't get any stance to match cat form |
| 04:38.14 | Primer | ok...got taint from Prat experimenting with /cast Bear Form in chat |
| 04:38.48 | Primer | so, as a bear, I can type /cast [stance:1] Cat Form |
| 04:38.49 | Primer | and it works |
| 04:39.22 | Primer | nm, cat is stance 2 |
| 04:39.30 | Primer | It used to be 3 |
| 04:39.41 | Ironii | swimming form got deleted |
| 04:39.49 | Ironii | i think it used to be 2 |
| 04:39.52 | Primer | yup |
| 04:40.19 | Syllios | do you guys actually like that worgen wanna be form? |
| 04:40.57 | Syllios | I wished they changed the casting and running animations for worgen -_- |
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| 04:49.19 | Primer | heh, if I try to /cast [stance:3] I get taint |
| 04:51.29 | Simca | from what |
| 04:51.36 | Primer | Prat |
| 04:51.49 | Primer | it's actually varying now |
| 04:52.05 | Simca | it's doubtful it is actually prat |
| 04:52.32 | Primer | ok, flight form is 3 |
| 04:54.42 | Syllios | goodnight ppl, thanks for the help Ironii |
| 04:55.16 | Ironii | gn |
| 04:57.06 | Primer | aww man, no more Pounce?! |
| 04:57.14 | Ironii | Primer i think they are 0:caster, 1: bear, 2:cat, 3:travel,4:moonkin 5: flight form if you have it |
| 04:57.28 | Ironii | shred stuns if you use it in prowl |
| 04:57.57 | Primer | that looks like swin removed and everything shifted over |
| 04:58.00 | Primer | thanks |
| 04:58.04 | Primer | swim, even |
| 04:59.58 | Ironii | and i think swimming form is imbossible to get so cat form should always be 2 |
| 05:00.34 | Ironii | well, basicly only thing that changes is flight form if you use the glyph, between 4/5 depending on your spec |
| 05:01.59 | Ironii | but g2g, i promised to watch over my siblings ;P |
| 05:02.10 | Mr_Rabies | aquatic form is always rolled into travel |
| 05:02.28 | Mr_Rabies | or flight maybe with the glyph |
| 05:02.37 | Mr_Rabies | bear is always 1, cat is always 2 |
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| 05:03.17 | Primer | is there a macro condition for flying (not flyable) |
| 05:03.19 | Primer | ? |
| 05:03.27 | nebula169 | flyable |
| 05:03.35 | Mr_Rabies | don't think so, what's your plan, Primer? |
| 05:03.55 | Primer | You can't go straight to prowl while flying |
| 05:04.05 | Ironii | flyable and noflyable works |
| 05:04.42 | Primer | I thought that only was true if you could fly (i.e. are outdoors in a flyable zone) |
| 05:04.59 | nebula169 | oh, missed the (not flyable) lol |
| 05:05.05 | Primer | yeah, that's always true |
| 05:05.29 | Primer | flying works |
| 05:05.36 | nebula169 | neat |
| 05:06.14 | Primer | oh, I can go to Prowl while flying, just not while moving |
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| 05:55.48 | Mr_Rabies | urgh |
| 05:55.52 | Mr_Rabies | i hate farming for charms :< |
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| 06:15.43 | Thunder_Child | Then don't do it. |
| 06:17.18 | Mr_Rabies | but i want upgraded gear :<< |
| 06:17.58 | Mr_Rabies | i wish at least 5 man heroics and raids gave charms while running them in lieu of the gold and nothing rewards they give in place of valor, respectively |
| 06:24.38 | nebula169 | yea, it's pretty lame things that use to drop valor don't drop charms |
| 06:25.59 | Mr_Rabies | mindlessly farming frogs isn't really fun |
| 06:26.19 | nebula169 | i atleast got exalted sho |
| 06:26.37 | nebula169 | erm shaohao* |
| 06:26.50 | nebula169 | doing the guys infront of ordos for charms |
| 06:28.12 | Gragagrogog_ | i got enough of them from "farming" lvl 90 mobs |
| 07:16.03 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/wbsODFF.png omg. |
| 07:16.42 | Constie | Oh dear. |
| 07:16.58 | nevcairiel | someone n eeds antialiasing |
| 07:17.12 | Constie | Yeah, really. |
| 07:17.35 | Neffi | yeah, that's the biggest problem here |
| 07:17.43 | Neffi | <_< |
| 07:17.53 | Fisker | It is |
| 07:18.12 | Xuerian | I really don't understand how people do without AA |
| 07:18.12 | Mr_Rabies | i turned my antialiasing off, the game looks so much clearer now |
| 07:18.20 | Mr_Rabies | i literally just turned it off last night |
| 07:18.24 | Mr_Rabies | it's so much clearer it's insane |
| 07:18.26 | Xuerian | At least, not until higher dpi |
| 07:19.04 | Mr_Rabies | it's like putting my glasses on |
| 07:19.08 | Neffi | <Xuerian> I really don't understand how people do without AA <- this is like saying "I don't understand how people do without Bentleys" |
| 07:19.29 | Xuerian | Neffi: More like "I don't really understand how people hike without hiking boots" |
| 07:19.51 | Neffi | That's a practical obstacle. AA is not |
| 07:20.13 | Neffi | Everyone appreciates higher fidelity. Not every has a good GPU |
| 07:20.31 | Xuerian | Alright |
| 07:20.38 | Xuerian | So aside from the "I'm a poor african" card |
| 07:20.41 | Mr_Rabies | my card only supports FXAA in wow which is blurry as all hell |
| 07:20.48 | Mr_Rabies | no AA is better than FXAA |
| 07:20.57 | Xuerian | sighs. |
| 07:21.12 | nevcairiel | guess he falls into the poor african category then |
| 07:21.16 | Xuerian | There are people who have no reason to not use it that don't, and that's what I don't get. |
| 07:21.58 | Neffi | Don't know better? Who cares |
| 07:22.02 | Xuerian | But fwiw, I've chosen at least the minimum AA every time even when it meant playing it over a tin can and some string, because it bothers me that much |
| 07:22.11 | Xuerian | So my statement "I don't understand .." is still valid |
| 07:22.39 | Mr_Rabies | it really depends on how the game implements it |
| 07:22.58 | Xuerian | Yeah, there are some really shit post AA implementations |
| 07:23.01 | Mr_Rabies | if it's a heavy hit to performance or makes the image look blurry i'll turn it off |
| 07:23.11 | Mr_Rabies | performance is above all else |
| 07:23.15 | Neffi | It honestly doesn't bother me. |
| 07:23.34 | Mr_Rabies | same, for the most part it's not a big deal |
| 07:23.45 | nevcairiel | it bothers me terribly |
| 07:23.49 | Neffi | I don't really ever notice it, except when I stop to look at the scenery |
| 07:23.52 | Xuerian | Jaggies. Eugh. |
| 07:24.13 | nevcairiel | but then i play on a high-end machine, and when i cant even get AA out of as game, it bothers me :p |
| 07:24.53 | Mr_Rabies | but i still think this looks good, so http://nfgworld.com/grafx/games/Megamanx13.png |
| 07:25.01 | Mr_Rabies | (minus that awful drop shadow) |
| 07:26.24 | Neffi | dat fidelity B| |
| 07:26.53 | Mr_Rabies | even this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6uSokcJJ1k |
| 07:27.04 | Mr_Rabies | looks amazing to me, still |
| 07:27.14 | Constie | I was going to say I really can't tell the difference between AA modes aside from jagged edges, and then I turned on FXAA and that really is so blurry. I can't unsee it now. |
| 07:27.17 | nevcairiel | the pixel art is meant to look like this, aliasing is an artifact |
| 07:27.21 | Xuerian | ^ |
| 07:27.37 | Mr_Rabies | well, not that awful compression |
| 07:28.28 | Xuerian | I certainly agree that fxaa tends to be done really badly (It can actually look good..) |
| 07:28.56 | nevcairiel | FXAA is generally rather blurry, but the CMAA in WoW is OK |
| 07:29.12 | nevcairiel | sucks if you dont have a DX11 GPU i suppose |
| 07:29.33 | nevcairiel | (or are on mac) |
| 07:30.20 | Constie | Well at least then you're used to things sucking. |
| 07:30.21 | Constie | Bam! |
| 07:30.42 | Neffi | gives Constie cookie |
| 07:31.35 | Xuerian | At least I'm not suggesting everyone should run SSAA/SGSSAA |
| 07:31.44 | Xuerian | Though it does look damn good |
| 07:32.05 | nevcairiel | dont have the choice in WoW anymore anyway |
| 07:32.13 | Neffi | these acronyms are getting crazy |
| 07:33.22 | Xuerian | Though if you play minecraft, you haven't done it right until you play with SSAA |
| 07:34.03 | Xuerian | Vanilla with no post AA, 16x textures and at least 2x ssaa, mmmm-mm pure blocky sexiness |
| 07:34.33 | nevcairiel | minecraft has graphics quality? |
| 07:35.17 | Neffi | minecraft can actually look oddly beautiful |
| 07:35.19 | Xuerian | Despite the fact that you can abuse the hell out of mods and make it look really pretty, the basic asthetic, when smooth instead of jaggy to hell (Yes. Smooth square blocks. I get the irony), looks pretty good |
| 07:36.29 | Mr_Rabies | i've never really noticed much aliasing in minecraft |
| 07:36.39 | Mr_Rabies | but then again i -just- installed 64 bit java so |
| 07:36.51 | Xuerian | The biggest difference shows up in the grass and tree textures, imo |
| 07:36.55 | Mr_Rabies | i thought the game updates just made the game run like crap, but it was because i was running 32-bit java still |
| 07:37.08 | Xuerian | Especially at a distance it reduces a lot of grid flickering |
| 07:37.22 | Mr_Rabies | went from <20fps average to around 600 with the same settings |
| 07:37.29 | Xuerian | Also yes, 1.8 jacked memory usage way up, but it runs a whole lot smoother once you do that though |
| 07:37.36 | Mr_Rabies | boosted settings way up and still at like 200 fps :V |
| 07:38.04 | Xuerian | that 20+ chunk render distance with no lag, mmyes |
| 07:48.28 | plaw | well this is odd, my druid seems to have forgotten flight form |
| 07:48.36 | plaw | unless it's been moved somewhere idk where |
| 07:48.44 | plaw | (i've not played it in quite some time) |
| 07:49.20 | Neffi | click Travel Form |
| 07:49.37 | plaw | ahh |
| 07:49.53 | Neffi | it's now cheetah+flight+aquatic |
| 07:50.48 | plaw | oh, so can't cheetah in (eg) pandaria for screen shots? |
| 07:51.03 | nevcairiel | you cant cheetah anyway, since its a stag now |
| 07:51.07 | Neffi | I don't know if you can. If not I hope they fix that |
| 07:51.11 | nevcairiel | unless you waste another minor glyph on that |
| 07:51.13 | Neffi | No more cheetah flyph? |
| 07:51.28 | nevcairiel | i still hate them for changing the default form to stag |
| 07:51.32 | Neffi | I really enjoyed going cheetah |
| 07:51.42 | nevcairiel | it was cheetah for years and years |
| 07:51.43 | plaw | wait hang on default is stag now |
| 07:51.53 | plaw | cheetah rocked |
| 07:52.02 | Neffi | yeah, you need a glyph to morph it back to a cheetah |
| 07:52.06 | plaw | anyways, thanks for assistance folks :) |
| 07:52.28 | nevcairiel | there is also a glyph that can separate the flight form into its own button again, but you can't use that glyph together with the cheetah glyph, and using like 2 minor glyphs on the travel form alone is rather insane anyway |
| 07:52.34 | nevcairiel | they majorly screwed this part |
| 07:52.52 | nebula169 | meh, what else are you gonna use minor glyphs on |
| 07:52.54 | plaw | at least they helped out well rounded druids by having the reagent tab |
| 07:54.00 | Neffi | nebula169: aquatic form speed increase and glyph of grace are nice to have |
| 07:54.11 | Neffi | this really bothers me. maybe more than it should |
| 07:54.24 | nevcairiel | nebula169: Grace is mandatory for me, and as moonkin i really prefer having Stars, until they some day maybe create a new moonkin form |
| 07:54.43 | plaw | yeah grace is mandatory |
| 07:55.05 | nevcairiel | not that it matters, with their new "exclusive glyph" BS you cannot have two glyphs for the travel form anyway |
| 07:55.15 | Neffi | though nothing beats being a rogue w/ safe fall glyph. dropping into mines (AB) without slow fall is excellent |
| 07:55.21 | nevcairiel | and if i had to chose one, Travel it would be |
| 07:55.41 | Neffi | Travel being.. separates them? |
| 07:55.57 | nevcairiel | no, making land travel form run at mount speed |
| 07:56.05 | Neffi | what!? |
| 07:56.20 | nevcairiel | its a new wod glyph, not obtainable yet |
| 07:56.47 | Neffi | disabled in BGs. bah |
| 07:56.57 | Neffi | that's like 95% of where I use ground mounts |
| 07:57.07 | nevcairiel | there is WoD |
| 07:57.09 | nevcairiel | no flying |
| 07:57.14 | Neffi | oh, right, I forgot |
| 07:58.22 | nevcairiel | in the same line of thought, the combined flight form is probably going to annoy me a bit less since there is no flying anyway |
| 07:58.30 | plaw | 'glyph of the fapping owl' wtf |
| 07:58.47 | nevcairiel | the problem is, i hate the stag, and when i want to run at mount speed, i would have to do so as stag |
| 07:58.47 | plaw | bonks himself on the head |
| 07:58.53 | nevcairiel | so i think i rather mount |
| 07:59.54 | Mr_Rabies | maraad makes me crack up |
| 08:00.00 | Mr_Rabies | you're not fooling anyone, crispin freeman |
| 08:02.04 | karl_w_w | wow this twitch survey doesnt have australia as a country you can live in |
| 08:02.21 | Neffi | people LIVE in australia? |
| 08:02.31 | Neffi | what about all the spiders and snakes and other stuff that kills you? |
| 08:02.53 | karl_w_w | it has what looks like about 40 countries including ethiopia and uzbekistan |
| 08:02.54 | plaw | Neffi: generally speaking, that stuff only kills non-aussies |
| 08:09.49 | plaw | still lol'ling that a forum mod stickied the Oceanic Servers Features request http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/15007210620 |
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| 08:11.21 | Neffi | haha, that's great |
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| 08:16.20 | Mr_Rabies | so there's a flight point at the new phased area in blasted lands...but you can't use it |
| 08:18.10 | nevcairiel | you mean the one in the new quest camp? |
| 08:20.16 | nevcairiel | Semlar: EU has over 25 group finder results now |
| 08:21.41 | nevcairiel | in any case, nethergarde and surwich closed down after the iron horde invaded, and only the new flight point in the quest camp remains |
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| 08:25.11 | Shirik | haste: Dagmar: how's this for an ingress story: Last week, one of our agents was injured by an exploding battery. Today I found out he got 3rd degree burns on his leg. |
| 08:30.28 | karl_w_w | video game numbering: GTA V is actually the 12th game in the GTA series |
| 08:32.40 | mikma | anyone happens to have a working version of TinyTip? |
| 08:34.12 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, nevcairiel |
| 08:34.15 | Mr_Rabies | the one in the camp doesn't work |
| 08:34.26 | Mr_Rabies | it's like the one in theramore |
| 08:34.58 | nevcairiel | the camp works for me, of course it only works if you're actually in the phase where the attack is happening |
| 08:39.15 | nevcairiel | but if you're not, then nethergarde and surwich should still be working |
| 08:41.11 | Mr_Rabies | mine said "you don't know any flight points connected to this one" |
| 08:41.15 | Mr_Rabies | oh wait, i was on my rogue |
| 08:41.20 | Mr_Rabies | he has like no flight points |
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| 08:48.46 | nevcairiel | probably wants to fly over the swamp or something |
| 08:48.50 | nevcairiel | dont know how it connects there |
| 08:49.57 | Shirik | I really wish you didn't have to visit the flight points |
| 08:50.04 | Shirik | maybe just discover the city or something |
| 08:50.23 | Shirik | but seriously, if I ever went to a taxi and told him to drive me to new york city |
| 08:50.31 | Shirik | and he was like "can you give me directions?" |
| 08:50.38 | Shirik | I would get out and look for another taxi |
| 08:50.40 | nevcairiel | its a fucking bird, you need to steer it |
| 08:50.51 | Shirik | I never thought I was steering it |
| 08:51.05 | nevcairiel | in pandaria you fly on kites, do you think they know where to go |
| 08:51.28 | Shirik | they can be magical kites |
| 08:57.44 | DJJeff | yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay raidbuffstatus gets an update :) |
| 08:58.49 | DJJeff | and I have been offline all day... only 1 more hour till halloween dailies reset |
| 09:00.40 | DJJeff | ah crap |
| 09:00.49 | DJJeff | I wont be able to solo the brill let the fires come |
| 09:05.48 | DJJeff | lucky shammons |
| 09:05.50 | DJJeff | nice dps |
| 09:05.51 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/UxHwzt7.jpg |
| 09:12.15 | DJJeff | OMFG |
| 09:12.22 | DJJeff | raidbuffstatus gets 2 updates |
| 09:12.27 | DJJeff | and still is tainted |
| 09:13.12 | DJJeff | I am done with RBS its a crappy addon anyways |
| 09:13.46 | Constie | Quick turnaround. |
| 09:14.31 | DJJeff | ohhhhhh my ticket is still up about the issue |
| 09:14.32 | DJJeff | http://www.wowace.com/addons/raidbuffstatus/tickets/404-lua-error-quest-item/ |
| 09:14.43 | DJJeff | nev even commented on it |
| 09:15.55 | DJJeff | oh wow I just made 1,000gold selling volatile fire |
| 09:16.03 | DJJeff | shhhhhhh dont tell anyone my secret |
| 09:16.30 | DJJeff | you can fish them up in pools of fire in twilight highlands |
| 09:20.36 | DJJeff | thats probley why they sell so damn fast is no one likes to fish |
| 09:20.42 | DJJeff | cause its long and boring |
| 09:20.54 | DJJeff | if you spend hours on wow why not make gold doing it |
| 09:22.18 | Gragagrogog_ | i thought every1 have a fishbot... |
| 09:25.29 | Gragagrogog_ | ye i dont understand why that bs is still in the game... |
| 09:28.03 | DJJeff | wait what? |
| 09:28.13 | DJJeff | you dont get why bots are in the game still? |
| 09:28.24 | Gragagrogog_ | i mean fishing |
| 09:28.44 | DJJeff | because sometimes wow can be god damn stressful |
| 09:28.48 | DJJeff | and you need to just cast off |
| 09:28.53 | Gragagrogog_ | :D |
| 09:28.57 | DJJeff | and stare into the pixelated sunset |
| 09:29.00 | DJJeff | and fish |
| 09:29.06 | DJJeff | anything wrong with that? |
| 09:29.37 | Gragagrogog_ | its only ~8 APM |
| 09:29.41 | DJJeff | people enjoy pixelated porn why not enjoy pixelated fishing in warcraft |
| 09:29.49 | DJJeff | and yes I did just compare the too |
| 09:30.00 | DJJeff | two |
| 09:30.20 | Gragagrogog_ | thez could make fishing a bit more intersting minigame >P |
| 09:30.31 | Dagmar | Wish granted |
| 09:30.56 | DJJeff | heh |
| 09:30.57 | Gragagrogog_ | but it would be booring after some time either way |
| 09:31.01 | DJJeff | how so Gragagrogog_ |
| 09:31.36 | DJJeff | I find porn boring after some time how is fishing in wow any diff |
| 09:31.43 | Gragagrogog_ | dont tell me you cant think of something more interesting then, press one button, wait 15 seconds, click |
| 09:31.46 | Dagmar | Less RSI. |
| 09:31.53 | DJJeff | whats RSI? |
| 09:31.59 | Dagmar | Also, lots fewer facials. |
| 09:32.12 | DJJeff | high five dagmar |
| 09:32.12 | Dagmar | Fapper's elbow |
| 09:32.53 | Dagmar | There are some *really* graphic analogies I could make. Hehe |
| 09:34.23 | Gragagrogog_ | ye if some1 enjoys fishing, no problem, but it shouldnt be required for ie raid food... |
| 09:34.24 | DJJeff | done my hallows end dailies for today |
| 09:34.42 | DJJeff | brill soloed itself |
| 09:34.45 | DJJeff | lol |
| 09:34.51 | Dagmar | _Something_ has to be required for raid food. |
| 09:35.05 | Gragagrogog_ | not rly |
| 09:35.13 | DJJeff | that damn magic broom should be account bound that you get in loot filled pumpkin |
| 09:35.14 | Dagmar | Yes, really. |
| 09:35.27 | DJJeff | I have 7 brooms in my bags |
| 09:35.37 | Gragagrogog_ | but what do i care.... i once run a fishbot for 4 months |
| 09:35.50 | DJJeff | isnt that cheating? |
| 09:36.08 | Gragagrogog_ | that depends |
| 09:36.11 | DJJeff | the only place I fished was in dalaran fishing up the damn coins |
| 09:36.16 | Dagmar | The holy banhammer strikes both swift and true |
| 09:37.00 | DJJeff | because of the awesome sayings on the coins |
| 09:37.44 | Gragagrogog_ | Dagmar: do u think so? 4 months fishing on the same spot continuously, no ban :D |
| 09:38.17 | DJJeff | I need to feel loved...... I think im gonna cruise craigslist personals |
| 09:38.18 | Dagmar | I fish in WoW a little because of EverQuest, but generally do not bother with it at all |
| 09:38.19 | DJJeff | yawn |
| 09:39.03 | DJJeff | 85% men use online dating websites....10% robots and 5% unknown |
| 09:39.34 | DJJeff | gonna cast my fishing line on craigslist see what I can reel in |
| 09:39.39 | Dagmar | Women on dating sites are most worried about meeting a serial killer. |
| 09:39.50 | DJJeff | I could agree to that |
| 09:39.55 | Dagmar | Men on dating sites are most worried about meeting a really fat girl |
| 09:40.14 | Dagmar | I don't find the serial killer concern particularly logical. |
| 09:40.17 | DJJeff | but what about the men for men section |
| 09:40.25 | DJJeff | what do they need to worry about |
| 09:40.51 | Dagmar | Never seen any studies on it |
| 09:40.52 | DJJeff | also if you meet in a public place like a starbucks coffee shop |
| 09:41.08 | DJJeff | how is your killer sentence logical |
| 09:41.16 | Dagmar | It's not mine. |
| 09:41.24 | Gragagrogog_ | Dagmar: i sugest ou looking some statistics on missing persons if youre rly interested in that |
| 09:41.24 | DJJeff | oh? |
| 09:41.33 | DJJeff | heh |
| 09:41.37 | Dagmar | OkCupid actually publishes limited information |
| 09:42.57 | Dagmar | Match.com could probably break it down to sock colors, but they like only the statistically very boring people. |
| 09:44.48 | DJJeff | I have a profile on okcupid |
| 09:44.55 | DJJeff | I actually like their IM |
| 09:44.59 | DJJeff | instant messenger |
| 09:45.11 | Dagmar | My few high mathces are never online |
| 09:45.17 | Dagmar | So... they're probably clip art. |
| 09:45.34 | DJJeff | mostly because okcupid's IM supports XMPP so I can use ubuntu and pidgin |
| 09:45.38 | DJJeff | to stay online 24/7 |
| 09:45.53 | DJJeff | probley would look creepy to a girl |
| 09:45.57 | DJJeff | that I am always online |
| 09:46.20 | DJJeff | or maybe a turn on to a geek or nerd |
| 09:46.42 | DJJeff | thats what would be great a dating website devoted to people who play video games |
| 09:47.00 | DJJeff | again would be 80% men |
| 09:47.16 | Dagmar | Women gamers are actually half the gamers now |
| 09:47.33 | nevcairiel | if you count phone games |
| 09:47.41 | Dagmar | Never. |
| 09:47.51 | nevcairiel | then its hardly true |
| 09:48.17 | Dagmar | Lots of women seem to play wow |
| 09:48.28 | nevcairiel | sure, but never even close to half |
| 09:48.41 | DJJeff | phone games dont count |
| 09:48.53 | DJJeff | oh im sure women play wow |
| 09:48.59 | DJJeff | they just dont talk about it |
| 09:49.04 | nevcairiel | we have maybe 20% in the guild |
| 09:49.09 | Dagmar | The ones in my guild definitely talk |
| 09:49.13 | DJJeff | because if they did they would be swarmed by men |
| 09:49.22 | Neffi | Lots of them do. I know a bunch. But it's not even close to half |
| 09:49.23 | Mr_Rabies | our new GM is a lady |
| 09:49.30 | Neffi | 1/5th sounds more reasonable |
| 09:50.04 | Mr_Rabies | yeah it's about 20% when you remove web/mobile games from the equation |
| 09:50.34 | DJJeff | have addons been known to behave like this? |
| 09:50.34 | DJJeff | http://puu.sh/cpLOR.png |
| 09:50.45 | DJJeff | I can not enter or delete this folder |
| 09:50.47 | Gragagrogog_ | we have.... 2 in 25man guild(~35ppl) |
| 09:51.07 | Dagmar | We have eight, that I'm aware of |
| 09:51.14 | nevcairiel | the ratio goes down if you go to progress raiding guilds |
| 09:51.20 | Mr_Rabies | are you an admin on that pc, DJJeff? |
| 09:51.22 | Neffi | Addons are just plain text files, DJJeff. I dont know what you did, but it's almost certainly on your end |
| 09:51.37 | DJJeff | ohhhhhh |
| 09:51.43 | DJJeff | ignore my being stupid |
| 09:51.48 | DJJeff | I have a file open in gimp |
| 09:51.53 | DJJeff | which locked the folder |
| 09:52.00 | DJJeff | problem fixed |
| 09:52.02 | Xuerian | I get the feeling we usually do, it's fine |
| 09:52.47 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 09:53.10 | Neffi | <DJJeff> which locked the folder <- wait, what? |
| 09:53.27 | Mr_Rabies | should have just locked the file, but it is the gimp |
| 09:53.31 | DJJeff | I quit gimp and I was able to delete the folder |
| 09:53.35 | Neffi | yeah, that's seriously stupid |
| 09:53.36 | Mr_Rabies | it's not exactly known for its quality |
| 09:54.09 | Xuerian | <Standard open source how about you fix it line> |
| 09:54.09 | Dagmar | Well, you can put in an #ifdef Win32 patch if you like |
| 09:54.35 | Xuerian | .. Yeah, that line |
| 09:54.37 | Dagmar | Linux (where it originates) file locking just isn't insane |
| 09:55.12 | Dagmar | It's putting a lock on the file being edited in both, but under Unix you actually have to give a fuck and look to see if a flock even exists. |
| 09:56.02 | Dagmar | Under Linux you could delete the directory or the file, and Gimp would still be able to read it. |
| 09:56.34 | DJJeff | yaaaaaaaaay I caught a fish.... I mean errrr girl on craigslist |
| 09:57.11 | Constie | What WoW UI addons has she developed? |
| 09:57.16 | DJJeff | yes dagmar because # rm -rf |
| 09:57.24 | DJJeff | does not care if the file is in use or not |
| 09:57.31 | DJJeff | thats why # rm -rf / |
| 09:57.34 | Dagmar | Precisely. |
| 09:57.34 | DJJeff | is a bad thing |
| 09:57.38 | Dagmar | Windows gets all emo about file locks |
| 09:57.49 | DJJeff | which is why winblows sucks |
| 09:58.21 | Dagmar | Windows can be super hilarious about that too |
| 09:58.34 | Dagmar | Take the case of a word document on a network share. |
| 09:59.09 | Constie | Does WoW not run on Linux with Wine or whatever anymore? |
| 09:59.15 | DJJeff | and this is why.... process explorer.... |
| 09:59.16 | Dagmar | Their file explorer likes to get metadata, so anyone with a file browser open to that directory will eventually trigger an attempt at _write locking_ the file |
| 09:59.18 | DJJeff | kicks butt |
| 09:59.18 | DJJeff | http://puu.sh/cpMbd.png |
| 09:59.41 | DJJeff | it shows you what process is using a handle |
| 10:00.07 | DJJeff | in linux it would be # lsof |
| 10:00.45 | Dagmar | Constie: It's supposed to |
| 10:01.52 | DJJeff | also if you have not already.... grab your 7 days of free gametime |
| 10:01.53 | DJJeff | http://puu.sh/cp3Vl.png |
| 10:02.07 | DJJeff | not sure why blizzard gave that to us but cool |
| 10:04.34 | Gragagrogog_ | "This World of Warcraft license is not eligible for this promotion." |
| 10:08.19 | DJJeff | lol? |
| 10:08.36 | DJJeff | trying to get 7 days on a starter edition? |
| 10:09.31 | Neffi | not everyone got it, DJJeff |
| 10:10.20 | Gragagrogog_ | on main acc, active sub |
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| 10:48.50 | p3lim | interesting, lua 5.3 introduces 64bit integers |
| 10:49.32 | p3lim | and lots of other stuff http://www.lua.org/work/doc/#changes |
| 10:52.07 | Neffi | yeah. but with LuaJIT stuck on 5.1, it's probably not gonna see a whole lot of use right away |
| 10:52.19 | Neffi | a lot of libraries haven't even been ported to 5.2 yet |
| 10:57.02 | nevcairiel | i liked having just one number type, but i guess some people might complain about performance doing everything in double |
| 11:02.03 | Constie | Non-ints make me nervous. I always feel like I'm one rounding operation away from disaster. |
| 11:02.37 | nevcairiel | anything you can represent accurately in an int, you can also represent accurately in a double |
| 11:02.52 | nevcairiel | well, 32-bit ints anyway, 64-bit ints don't fit in a 64-bit double |
| 11:03.13 | Neffi | specifically you can represent up to 53-bit ints perfectly in doubles |
| 11:09.07 | Gragagrogog_ | hmm doesnt look bad... Two separated operations: float division (/) and integer division (//) |
| 11:09.22 | nevcairiel | that just sounds complex |
| 11:09.47 | [TOM_RUS] | any idea why PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD doesn't fire after /reload inside of instances, but works outside? |
| 11:09.58 | nevcairiel | Lua was so neat and tidy, this seems to add complexity and confusion |
| 11:11.14 | Constie | Yeah, I think I'd rather have just doubles than that. |
| 11:11.19 | p3lim | nevcairiel: optional, keep that in mind |
| 11:11.37 | p3lim | not gonna replace doubles |
| 11:12.11 | nevcairiel | there is still some annoying changes there, ie. tostring(2.0) produces "2.0" in 5.3, instead of "2" in 5.2 and before |
| 11:13.04 | nevcairiel | and you probably also have to make sure your number is an int when indexing tables with it, since 2.0 and 2 are now different things |
| 11:13.18 | Neffi | that's not the case, afaik |
| 11:13.26 | nevcairiel | for a lossly typed language, that adds a lot of confusion |
| 11:13.36 | nevcairiel | +e |
| 11:14.00 | Neffi | <Neffi> %5.3 = ({1,2})[2.0] <yalb> Neffi: 2 |
| 11:14.28 | nevcairiel | luckily wow will never upgrade anyway =P |
| 11:14.29 | Neffi | There's a number type, and an integer and float subtype, and coercion takes place transparently depending on scenario |
| 11:15.06 | mikma | how can i match the level from "Level 90 Draenei Death Knight (player)" and color it with GetQuestDifficultyColor ? |
| 11:19.39 | Gragagrogog_ | you prolly want just UnitLevel("player") |
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| 11:21.12 | mikma | yes i do, but the problem will be with the 'Level ?? Draenei Death Knight (Player)' tooltips |
| 11:22.03 | Maldivia | str:match("%d+") |
| 11:22.03 | Gragagrogog_ | what exactly are u trying to do? |
| 11:23.24 | mikma | color player level in tooltip. i got tired of FixehTooltip bug'n and decided to create my own small mod |
| 11:23.38 | mikma | maldivia: the 'Level ??' is not a number |
| 11:28.31 | Neffi | str:match('Level ([%d%?]+)') |
| 11:29.12 | Neffi | str:match('Level ([%d?]+)') -- also works |
| 11:31.58 | [TOM_RUS] | this wont work on localized clients |
| 11:32.06 | Neffi | that is true |
| 11:32.46 | Maldivia | well, "[%d?]+" should be enough, unless there are other places that can be numbers or question marks? |
| 11:33.18 | Neffi | Really you could just use UnitLevel('mouseover') |
| 11:33.28 | Neffi | check if == -1, and if so, substitute for '??' |
| 11:34.16 | mikma | neffi: http://hastebin.com/vodupetibi.lua |
| 11:34.18 | haste | Shirik: cheap chinese battery :P ? |
| 11:34.20 | mikma | exactly what i was doing |
| 11:37.44 | mikma | roflcopter, my guildname in silvermoon has been changed (in guild there's me and my alt) |
| 11:37.57 | mikma | aurora borealis -> aurora borealis emeritus |
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| 13:26.29 | karl_w_w | stupid amoxycillin |
| 13:26.37 | karl_w_w | constant dizziness |
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| 14:26.42 | Fisker | blows up foxlit |
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| 15:45.13 | mikma | anyone knows a proper note-addon that actually can share the notes with others without errors? i've tried notebook and simply notes |
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| 16:44.52 | Shirik | haste: I have no idea, but I still think it's crazy even if chinese :P |
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| 16:46.41 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
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| 18:21.56 | Constie | Ressy might know: If I found what I think is a bug, and there's already a bug report thread that's about the same thing but is lacking possibly useful information, do I bump the thread with that information, or assume it won't be necessary since it'll be looked into anyway? |
| 18:22.18 | nevcairiel | additionaly information is always good |
| 18:27.51 | A-KO | I'd bump the thread. And report via in-game bug report |
| 18:30.33 | Constie | Oh, I misread the OP a little bit. It's a different bug related to the same abilities. |
| 18:33.08 | Ressy | new thread then. |
| 18:33.47 | Ressy | makes it hard to track if there are multiple bugs in a single thread. |
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| 18:58.23 | Torhal | makes a point to bug Ressy with thread. |
| 18:59.28 | Fisker | hey Torhal |
| 18:59.37 | Torhal | hey Fisker |
| 18:59.55 | Fisker | wanna hi5? |
| 19:00.58 | mikma | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpHz2yW2ghM |
| 19:04.38 | mikma | foxlit: hmm, latest OPie from wowi explodes on my wow: Message: Interface\AddOns\OPie\OneRingLib.lua:22: attempt to index a nil value |
| 19:04.39 | Thunder_Child | That's a horrible site Fisker. |
| 19:05.27 | Constie | Try the latest OPie from Curse instead, mikma. |
| 19:06.30 | mikma | hmmh |
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| 19:08.43 | Constie | I guess I actually have like three different bugs here. There is some weird behavior with Chakras and Holy Words. |
| 19:08.46 | mikma | well, yeah. apparently minion told me that there's a new version (because i had better one) |
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| 19:54.55 | fewyn | man the low dps numbers in game are really throwing me for a loop |
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| 20:12.53 | Constie | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/15006680830#1 |
| 20:13.02 | Constie | Well this has been an exciting Saturday night. |
| 20:17.00 | Semlar | yeah i only do like 14k dps in a raid |
| 20:18.32 | Teazle | heya, question: how would i go about fault-searching my AddOn for Masque - my buttons recieve no icons when I try to register it in Masque... |
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| 20:33.53 | kd3 | ah, old adult swim bounces. http://i.imgur.com/evBPDlS.jpg |
| 20:34.57 | haste | .jpg |
| 20:39.14 | foxlit | mikma: the version of OPie on wowi is over a year old. File a bug report against minion for even considering that it's newer than what you have. |
| 20:41.10 | Constie | It seems reasonable to assume that Lime 6 is newer than Rose 1, if it just goes by version names. |
| 20:41.42 | foxlit | lua> "Lime 6" > "Rose 1" |
| 20:41.51 | foxlit | foxlit: false. |
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| 20:51.40 | foxlit | maybe we need a standard for dating+signing addon releases. |
| 20:53.34 | Semlar | well you might use an actual version number instead of colors |
| 20:55.20 | foxlit | and what would that fix? |
| 20:55.57 | Semlar | considering a HUMAN couldn't tell what order those come in, how could you expect the program to |
| 20:56.18 | foxlit | strcmp can tell what order those come in. |
| 20:56.30 | Semlar | no it can't, it just assumes you want alphabetical order |
| 20:56.30 | foxlit | as can any lexicographical comparison function. |
| 20:56.38 | Semlar | which has nothing to do with the actual version order |
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| 20:57.55 | foxlit | by an amazing stroke of luck, version order corresponds to alphabetical order for those ##Version: name. Amazing how that works out. |
| 20:58.05 | Semlar | for you |
| 20:58.07 | Semlar | sure |
| 20:58.19 | Semlar | you're expecting anyone to know that? |
| 20:58.58 | Semlar | you want a bot to be programmed based on your completely arbitrary versioning system? |
| 20:59.31 | foxlit | not particularly. |
| 20:59.55 | Semlar | but you do want it to assume rose 1 is greater than lime 6 |
| 21:00.07 | foxlit | I want it to not assume that lime 6 is greater than rose 1. |
| 21:01.44 | Constie | I use TOC.releasenumber because that way you can go "Oh, the one I have is 60000.3 and the one on WoWI is 60000.4, so I guess it definitely works with this game version and also that version is newer." |
| 21:01.51 | Constie | And/or because I'm a garbage idiot who doesn't know better. |
| 21:02.46 | Semlar | i'm going to start naming mine after animals |
| 21:03.01 | foxlit | you realize you'd have to release something, though? :) |
| 21:03.01 | Torhal | Semlar: Don't be ckknight. |
| 21:03.30 | Constie | As you keep developing your addons they'll keep getting better, so newer versions get named after cooler animals. |
| 21:03.44 | MiRai | I'll be looking forward to the Giraffe 4 version of Crosshairs |
| 21:03.55 | foxlit | (bonus: ranking of animal coolness is subjective, so nobody will ever know what's up or down) |
| 21:04.07 | Semlar | i'm going to order them by natural habitat distance from the equator |
| 21:04.07 | Torhal | Sugarglider 12 |
| 21:04.21 | MiRai | Semlar: hahaha |
| 21:04.31 | Constie | I mean, clearly MEGASHARK is cooler than, like, possum. |
| 21:04.33 | Semlar | i'll probably start with penguins |
| 21:04.49 | Torhal | Honeybadger |
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| 21:26.55 | Primer | What do green posts on the wow forums mean? |
| 21:27.19 | Constie | Posted by an MVP. |
| 21:27.41 | Primer | What exactly is an MVP? A forum whore? |
| 21:27.51 | Semlar | someone with green text |
| 21:27.55 | Constie | What exactly is a forum whore? |
| 21:28.04 | Primer | Someone who posts a lot |
| 21:28.20 | Constie | http://wowpedia.org/Most_Valuable_Poster |
| 21:29.09 | Semlar | Ro has made a million god damn posts on the ui forum and he's not an MVP |
| 21:29.25 | foxlit | the UI forum is a blackhole; nothing escapes out of it. |
| 21:29.52 | Constie | Also the other guy. |
| 21:30.02 | Primer | some familiar names there |
| 21:30.16 | Semlar | i don't know if i've ever seen an MVP in the ui forum |
| 21:30.43 | foxlit | cogwheel, etc. |
| 21:30.44 | Constie | Choonster! |
| 21:30.54 | foxlit | it didn't end well. |
| 21:31.38 | foxlit | I'm reasonably certain iriel used to be a dinosaur too. |
| 21:31.49 | Semlar | i wouldn't want to be an MVP, i'd have to pretend to be nice to people |
| 21:32.04 | nevcairiel | well cog digged his own grave in one beta with the addon-disabled-bypassing BS |
| 21:32.09 | nevcairiel | digged?dug? |
| 21:32.20 | foxlit | dug. |
| 21:32.21 | Neffi | dug, I think |
| 21:32.40 | Iriel | foxlit: Indeed, I used to post there all the time |
| 21:33.11 | Constie | There used to be MVP posts in the Priest forum from Snowfox, but like literally every person in the world outside of the Priest forum hated them for some reason and now there's no green text there ever. |
| 21:33.13 | Neffi | I seem to remember you used to give us patch notes over there |
| 21:33.15 | foxlit | (and wowpedia also lists alestane as a current MVP, dunno if that holds.) |
| 21:33.17 | Neffi | Nobody does that anymore |
| 21:33.26 | Iriel | The questions sort of veered off from the stuff I was actually good at responding to (this channel became better for that), and then I go tbusy 8-) |
| 21:33.43 | Iriel | Well, the blizzard folks wanted to do patch notes, and did for a bit |
| 21:33.53 | Torhal | Ressy is an MVP, on the tech forums. |
| 21:34.01 | Torhal | MysticalOS is one as well. |
| 21:34.04 | nevcairiel | they occasionally mention big changes now, but nothing major |
| 21:34.07 | Torhal | And bluspacecow. |
| 21:34.11 | nevcairiel | no complete listings or anything |
| 21:34.12 | Semlar | you da real mvp neffi |
| 21:34.19 | Neffi | shut up babe, I know it |
| 21:34.23 | Iriel | kd3 does awesome diffs |
| 21:34.49 | Iriel | Or should I say, his robot underlings do |
| 21:35.04 | nevcairiel | he keeps slacking on them, dont think i got anything for the 6.0.3 beta |
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| 21:35.45 | foxlit | forums are a meh medium for community-documented changes, though. |
| 21:36.43 | Semlar | i got a korkron juggernaut neffi |
| 21:37.21 | Semlar | now i can run around on a mechanical saw-wielding scorpion |
| 21:37.54 | foxlit | threads generally make no sense, and posts aren't updatable by anyone except the author. |
| 21:38.28 | alestane | foxlit, I am as far as I know still a green poster. Admitedly the forum mostly seems to need far less management these days. |
| 21:38.28 | Iriel | Right, it works when someONE is willing to own doing it |
| 21:38.37 | Constie | I hope they put in mounts better than Rivendare's Deathcharger, Raven Lord, and Purple Netherwing Drake some day. |
| 21:39.04 | nevcairiel | i dont like the raven lord, it looks funky |
| 21:39.21 | Neffi | They already did, Constie. Zulian Tiger, Azure Netherwing Drake, White Talbuk ;) |
| 21:39.40 | Neffi | dem purple horns are so beautiful |
| 21:40.05 | nevcairiel | talbuks ftw, but for nether drakes, swift nether drakw ftw |
| 21:40.07 | nevcairiel | drake* |
| 21:40.17 | Constie | I want to like talbuks, but their running animation is so stiff. |
| 21:40.22 | Neffi | gladiator nev? |
| 21:40.43 | Neffi | Constie: well there are new talbuks coming in the expac. much more detailed models |
| 21:40.55 | Neffi | no more white+purple though, I dont think. that makes me really sad |
| 21:41.02 | nevcairiel | i dont like the ravenlord for similar reasons, it just feels off |
| 21:41.05 | Constie | I hope I can stand using them! |
| 21:41.37 | Neffi | ever ride one of those orc mounts? now that's a terrible running animation |
| 21:41.59 | nevcairiel | does the korkron wolf i got from the achiev run the same way? |
| 21:42.17 | Neffi | dunno. you can probably check with wowhead's model view |
| 21:42.28 | nevcairiel | i mostly use a shado-pan tiger these days |
| 21:42.47 | Semlar | the tiger is nice |
| 21:43.10 | mikma | neffi: oh, that was soooo bender i love it. |
| 21:43.30 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.36 | nevcairiel | also, i use the cobalt blue talbuk! |
| 21:43.48 | Constie | Cobalt War #1. |
| 21:44.53 | mikma | so folks... are large mage pets or small mage pets better in pvp? keeping in mind that i'm a gnome mage :D |
| 21:45.13 | mikma | will the huge pet take attention away from me or does it make folks attack me even moe |
| 21:45.35 | Semlar | a larger pet might make you more difficult to target |
| 21:45.39 | Primer | mikma: AFAIK, I'm the only other PVPer here |
| 21:45.57 | Primer | And I don't have a mage |
| 21:46.01 | mikma | semlar: true |
| 21:46.11 | mikma | primer: i just started pvp again today, was kinda fun |
| 21:46.16 | Semlar | probably wouldn't make that much of a difference in a typical arena fight though |
| 21:46.22 | Primer | Semlar: all good pvpers I know use name plates |
| 21:46.28 | Primer | Semlar: speaking of name plates... |
| 21:46.32 | mikma | primer: last time i did pvp was in lich king and death knight |
| 21:46.33 | Semlar | hides |
| 21:46.41 | Primer | SemlarPlates! |
| 21:46.41 | Neffi | lol |
| 21:47.05 | mikma | primer: see my pvp addons from wowi ;) |
| 21:47.10 | Primer | mikma: My guild stopped raiding in May so I had nothing else to do, so I took 3 toons into 2k RBGs |
| 21:47.55 | Primer | mikma: I've been bugging Semlar for "static" name plates |
| 21:48.15 | Primer | ones that could potentially be positioned next to BGT for dot and cast tracking |
| 21:48.24 | mikma | but semlar is ... semlar |
| 21:48.34 | Semlar | yeah i'm no good at doing things |
| 21:48.51 | Semlar | get neffi to do it |
| 21:48.54 | mikma | neither at being a dick, you're just busy and lazy |
| 21:49.08 | Primer | mikma: Have the URL handy? |
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| 21:49.21 | mikma | primer: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/author-18878.html |
| 21:50.42 | mikma | i did notice some "glitches" with OhSnap earlier today, but didn't have the interest to fix it, yet |
| 21:51.52 | Primer | I use TipTac. I like the configurability of it. I also use WitchHunt + MSBT, for a dedicated enemy action notification area |
| 21:52.03 | Primer | Just going down the list here... |
| 21:53.04 | Primer | Post-it looks interesting |
| 21:54.36 | Constie | Oh, someone was asking for something like that earlier. |
| 21:54.41 | Primer | OhSnap also looks interesting |
| 21:54.55 | Primer | Just not sure if it would be information overload |
| 21:54.58 | mikma | did tons of coding and annoying semlar with enemyscanner2 earlier :P |
| 21:55.07 | Semlar | >_> |
| 21:55.08 | mikma | primer: it's target based mainly |
| 21:55.20 | Primer | figured |
| 21:55.42 | mikma | primer: altho spellsalerts are different thing (cyclone targets etc) |
| 21:56.22 | Primer | I've taken to using mouseover macros for all my spells. In pvp, not having a target seems to confuse a lot of people :) |
| 21:56.46 | Primer | or having a decoy target is even more confusing |
| 21:57.03 | mikma | primer: yeah but your spell still gets captured, atleast it did, with ohsnap. the event has target in it |
| 21:57.27 | Primer | of course |
| 21:57.28 | Semlar | only instant casts have their targets |
| 21:57.33 | Constie | I sometimes want to do PvP, but not enough to do like organized PvP, and random BGs have been mainly bad experiences for me since vanilla. |
| 21:57.37 | Semlar | until the cast finishes |
| 21:57.45 | Primer | that ^^^ |
| 21:58.29 | Constie | AV is fun, when it's not either over in five minutes or really horrible. |
| 21:58.51 | mikma | that reminded me of the av's that were on for dayyyyys |
| 21:58.53 | Primer | Anyhow, I'm still hoping to get some sort of static nameplate addon |
| 21:59.36 | Primer | mikma: Semlar knows what I mean, but in case you don't: an addon that grabs name plates and puts them in specific locations in RBGs |
| 22:00.01 | Constie | Blizzard has intentionally broken the functionality of similar things in the past. |
| 22:00.03 | mikma | sounds like cheating. i like it. |
| 22:00.06 | Primer | ideally this: as they show in the UI, move them next to the corresponding name in BGT |
| 22:00.12 | Semlar | i posted how to do it but i don't think anyone wants to work it out |
| 22:00.42 | mikma | because you are the only one who actually understands how it's done |
| 22:01.23 | Semlar | that's because it's MADNESS |
| 22:01.27 | Semlar | MADNESS! |
| 22:01.35 | Primer | and theme them in a way where they show like this: [======= 75% ] [my dot 1 15s] [my dot 2 20s] [ casting Polymorph on Myhealer] |
| 22:01.50 | Torhal | deports Semlar to Sparta. |
| 22:02.07 | Constie | Not again! |
| 22:02.07 | Primer | As an affliction lock, imagine dotting shit up with something like that! |
| 22:02.55 | Primer | I mean, I'd love to see something that actually integrated with BGT so that way the HP bars would not be redundant |
| 22:03.05 | Constie | There used to be addons that were like raid frames except for enemy targets, used for multi-DoTing in raids. |
| 22:05.44 | Primer | So BGT would just look like this: [ role ] [ spec ] [ class ] [ HP ] [ number of people targeting this person ] [ flag/orb color + stacks/BG specific shit ] [ perhaps static cast bar here to keep the spacing consistent ] [ my dot 1 icon + duration ] ... [ my dot n icon + duration ] |
| 22:05.48 | Semlar | it's hardly fair that healers get unit frames but dps don't |
| 22:06.21 | Primer | well, this would fix that! |
| 22:06.30 | Primer | DPS get frames in arenas |
| 22:06.33 | Primer | but not in RBGs |
| 22:06.54 | mikma | because they are not important xD |
| 22:07.02 | Primer | I disagree! |
| 22:07.03 | foxlit | it's interesting that the intersection of people who are interested in pvp and people who can write addons is virtually empty. |
| 22:07.19 | Semlar | we're all cowards |
| 22:07.47 | mikma | or, we can't play pvp |
| 22:07.58 | Semlar | i used to pvp |
| 22:08.11 | Primer | I love pvp |
| 22:08.28 | mikma | same, OhSnap was born because of paladins in pvp ;) |
| 22:09.19 | Constie | I imagine for some people it's because they don't want to get used to having addons because then they won't win arena tournaments. |
| 22:09.21 | foxlit | so pairs happens to iterate over arrays in order. |
| 22:09.46 | Primer | Constie: anyone doing high end arenas uses Gladius |
| 22:09.49 | foxlit | I wonder if that's affected by the way the array is constructed. |
| 22:10.02 | Primer | Gladius has like 4 forks too |
| 22:11.48 | Iriel | foxlit: Itâs due to how pairs works, it does the array part then the hash part |
| 22:12.08 | foxlit | Iriel: can I construct a hash table that looks like an array? |
| 22:12.17 | Iriel | Yes, if youâre devious |
| 22:12.19 | Constie | I kind of also want to say that it makes sense that if you've already resigned yourself to doing WoW PvP then you may as well also resign yourself to using the default UI. |
| 22:12.22 | Iriel | and then it wont work the way you expect |
| 22:12.38 | foxlit | I'm expecting it not to iterate in order in all circumstances. |
| 22:12.49 | Iriel | In general thatâs the safe bet |
| 22:13.14 | Semlar | are you trying to break something again |
| 22:13.18 | Iriel | The array-part-in-order is an implementation side effect |
| 22:15.29 | Iriel | foxlit: actually you dont have to try that hard if you want to prove it, if you make a table literal in lua with hash style entries then they get put in the hash |
| 22:16.03 | Iriel | that was an early wow + lua 5.1 bug, which is why the SV files serialize the array entries differently than the table entries (in vanilla wow they were serialized identically) |
| 22:17.04 | Neffi | <Semlar> get neffi to do it <- ok but I might not be doing what you want |
| 22:17.31 | Semlar | just so long as i don't have to do it |
| 22:17.42 | Neffi | ok |
| 22:19.05 | Neffi | <Constie> I imagine for some people it's because they don't want to get used to having addons because then they won't win arena tournaments. <- you can't use addons, but you can /run scripts in the tourney. it's common practice to get people to reimplement some addon functionality in scripts for the tourney |
| 22:19.27 | Neffi | I just recently wrote a few "addons" for somebody competing in the tourney |
| 22:19.39 | foxlit | dammit Neffi. |
| 22:20.03 | Neffi | :( |
| 22:20.05 | foxlit | do you hate level plain fields or something? :P |
| 22:20.14 | Constie | Yeah, I remember the person asking for help with their scripts in here. |
| 22:20.16 | Neffi | I hate shitty policies that beg to be subverted |
| 22:20.27 | Semlar | i just like that they refused to make a text box to paste an entire addon into |
| 22:20.30 | Neffi | also everyone else was using a particular script that sucked, so I figured I'd write a better version |
| 22:21.22 | Neffi | I wrote https://gist.github.com/nefftd/0248996ba4b20179b17a and https://gist.github.com/nefftd/d9cc51bb43f8c90fb610 |
| 22:21.42 | Neffi | I will never help somebody from Arena Junkies again |
| 22:22.04 | Neffi | He offered to pay me for the first script. Then begged for another for free, which I obliged. Then harassed me for days for a third for free. Never paid for the first. |
| 22:22.20 | Semlar | this is why you should never do anything for anyone |
| 22:22.25 | Neffi | I concur |
| 22:22.30 | Neffi | now I just sit here and do nothing |
| 22:23.11 | Torhal | waters Neffi. |
| 22:23.19 | Neffi | grows a little bit. |
| 22:26.24 | Alram | . _. |
| 22:27.18 | Constie | http://www.eyezmaze.com/eyezblog_en/blog/2009/01/grow_tower.html#more |
| 22:51.57 | nebula169 | foxlit: grabbed luacasc to play with, casc.open runs but handle:readFile always returns nil (eg, hashed "DBFilesClient/FileData.dbc" isn't in root) |
| 22:52.05 | nebula169 | anything come to mind that I'm doing wrong? :( using windows |
| 22:52.15 | foxlit | nebula169: where are you getting your lua binary? |
| 22:52.26 | nebula169 | luabin |
| 22:52.45 | nebula169 | i have 5.1.5 |
| 22:53.37 | foxlit | http://luabinaries.sourceforge.net/download.html ? |
| 22:53.43 | nebula169 | yar |
| 22:55.39 | foxlit | if possible, get anything other than the win32 build. |
| 22:58.07 | foxlit | win64 should work. |
| 22:58.23 | nebula169 | yup, it did, cool |
| 23:01.28 | foxlit | There's a block of preprocessor directives in Lua that disagrees with me on VC 32-bit targets; I'm going to fix my code to not trigger it in 1.3. |
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| 23:51.22 | foxlit | thought: recount death chart should be sorted by time of death, not death count. |
| 23:51.40 | foxlit | (at least when viewing per-fight data) |
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