| 00:00.03 | Cidan | damn. |
| 00:00.11 | Cidan | absolutely my favorite city, :( |
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| 00:04.52 | DJJeff | can minion addon client PLEASE stay out of my D:\ drive I have secret files in there |
| 00:05.01 | kullervo | Semlar: I'd say it would be ethical to tell them to paste a script that actually fucks up *everything* |
| 00:05.11 | Semlar | oo good idea |
| 00:05.14 | DJJeff | I want to force it to only scan my C:\ program files |
| 00:05.30 | kullervo | since that would provide an important chance to learn something |
| 00:05.32 | DJJeff | minion has no reason to be scanning my D:\ drive at all |
| 00:05.54 | kullervo | wth is minion |
| 00:05.55 | Semlar | they'd learn the important lesson of not blindly copying my code |
| 00:06.01 | Semlar | minion is wowinterface's curse client |
| 00:06.09 | DJJeff | minion is for WoWI |
| 00:06.13 | DJJeff | but its in beta |
| 00:06.26 | DJJeff | I decided to give it a try |
| 00:06.31 | kullervo | right |
| 00:06.35 | DJJeff | if it plays nice along side curse |
| 00:06.41 | DJJeff | I will keep it |
| 00:06.49 | Mr_Rabies | you can tell it just to not scan for new games entirely |
| 00:06.57 | DJJeff | how? |
| 00:07.14 | DJJeff | when I launched it.... it stated "scanning for wow folder" |
| 00:07.22 | DJJeff | and I heard my D:\ spin up |
| 00:07.28 | Semlar | (porn drive) |
| 00:07.31 | DJJeff | major major red flag |
| 00:07.41 | DJJeff | minion is not off to a good start |
| 00:08.19 | JTF195 | relevant: http://i.imgur.com/h3sdf58.jpg |
| 00:08.37 | DJJeff | heh nice one :) |
| 00:09.24 | DJJeff | I guess just tell minion to not scan for wow at all and add it by hand? |
| 00:10.46 | Neffi | DJJeff: wowi is scanning D: for porn. This is normal. |
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| 00:11.46 | DJJeff | I am kinda laughing right now.... my D:\ drive is not in FAT32 or NTFS |
| 00:11.57 | DJJeff | its in...... *NIX EXT4 |
| 00:12.13 | Neffi | do you have an ext4 driver installed? |
| 00:12.17 | DJJeff | yup |
| 00:12.23 | Neffi | then it's probably scanning it fine |
| 00:12.38 | DJJeff | I use this program ext2 volume manager |
| 00:12.49 | DJJeff | lets you mount ext3/4 in windows as read only |
| 00:13.58 | DJJeff | minion installer wont even ask for admin rights........ |
| 00:14.08 | DJJeff | to install it in program files x86 |
| 00:14.15 | DJJeff | *sigh* |
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| 00:19.54 | DJJeff | ok finally got it to find my addons folder and its telling me older versions of an addon is an update |
| 00:20.23 | DJJeff | current version 50.... new version 38.... would I like to update? |
| 00:20.26 | DJJeff | sure why not |
| 00:20.53 | Ironii | report it on wowinterface |
| 00:21.02 | Ironii | it is a beta after all |
| 00:21.14 | DJJeff | I am guessing that curse client uses addon date and time stamps instead of version numbers |
| 00:21.21 | DJJeff | to determin if its an update |
| 00:21.23 | Kaelten | DJJeff: not exactly |
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| 00:21.37 | Kaelten | it's more complicated, and generally reliable, than that |
| 00:22.07 | Ironii | most likely minion is assuming if you don't have the version that they have then it is a update |
| 00:22.11 | Ironii | or something |
| 00:22.56 | DJJeff | hrmmmmmmmm |
| 00:23.19 | DJJeff | sounds like they should be using epoch timestamps to tell you when its an update |
| 00:23.47 | DJJeff | cause for example broker_garbage on curse was updated in 2013 |
| 00:23.55 | DJJeff | and on WoWI back in 2012 |
| 00:24.12 | DJJeff | so WoWI says the 2012 version is newer? |
| 00:25.06 | Semlar | does it have to be the epoch or can it be some other kind of timestamp |
| 00:25.36 | DJJeff | epoch time would be more universal |
| 00:25.58 | DJJeff | without having to deal with time zones etc |
| 00:26.15 | DJJeff | just go with UTC or something IDK |
| 00:27.02 | Ironii | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=124 |
| 00:28.00 | DJJeff | hrmmmmmmmmmm minion shows this addon as 1.10 when on the website it states 1.7 |
| 00:28.01 | DJJeff | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12887-DeadlyBossMods-VictorySound.html#info |
| 00:29.48 | DJJeff | minion looks pretty clean and sexy |
| 00:29.56 | DJJeff | I give it thumbs up for that |
| 00:30.15 | DJJeff | but way too many issues for me right out the gate |
| 00:32.03 | Ironii | http://ironi.fi/Sieppaa.JPG any ideas what would cause that? |
| 00:32.23 | Ironii | all i did was change the x.png to x.blp with same exact same dimension |
| 00:32.32 | Ironii | -same |
| 00:33.12 | Semlar | what's it supposed to be |
| 00:33.21 | Semlar | a border? |
| 00:33.35 | Ironii | just an icon with 'D' inside |
| 00:35.25 | Semlar | i could only speculate |
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| 00:35.50 | Ironii | http://ironi.fi/d.png thats the icon |
| 00:35.59 | m^rk | after wow calls the func for a custom menu created by UIDropDownMenu_Initialize(), it does not automatically close the menu? is this normal? if so, what is best way to close it? |
| 00:36.17 | Ironii | speculate away, i don't have any ideas what would cause that since i didn't touch the code at all |
| 00:36.20 | Ironii | only changed textures |
| 00:37.51 | Semlar | did you try converting the blp to a png to see what it looks like |
| 00:39.08 | Ironii | no, never had any problems with converting |
| 00:39.35 | Ironii | lol, thats the problem :P |
| 00:39.37 | Ironii | thanks :D |
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| 00:40.09 | Semlar | m^rk: the menu is supposed to close itself after you mouse off of it for a certain period of time |
| 00:40.29 | Semlar | also randomly as you're trying to use it, because wow hates dropdown menus |
| 00:40.49 | relaxok | hmm i don't really get the flow of mousedown/mouseup/button:Click()/OnClick/etc. |
| 00:42.08 | kd3 | print statements. print statements everywhere |
| 00:42.12 | relaxok | if a script does button:Click("LeftButton"), does that start doing an OnMouseDown and then that might or might not do an OnClick? |
| 00:42.34 | relaxok | some frames have an OnClick handler that does button:Click() so.. |
| 00:42.43 | relaxok | that wouldnt seem right |
| 00:43.06 | Neffi | go test this stuff in game |
| 00:43.15 | Neffi | see the addon Devpad |
| 00:44.33 | relaxok | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/devpad/? |
| 00:48.20 | Neffi | yes |
| 00:48.48 | Neffi | hmm. I hope that's not broken in 6.x. it was working flawlesslt in 5.4.x despite being abandoned. really great mod |
| 00:49.22 | Semlar | i would never abandon you neffi |
| 00:49.42 | Neffi | unless I dont watch some obscure Korean vampire drama |
| 00:49.46 | Semlar | right |
| 00:49.57 | Semlar | i expect updates |
| 00:59.55 | Semlar | foxlit: couldn't you still easily write an addon that advances a button through a series of spells regardless of what's on cooldown, i don't see how fixing /castsequence really prevents anyone from making it so they can spam one button repeatedly |
| 01:01.06 | Semlar | i wrote one a while back that overrode my tab binding that changed what it did every time i pushed it |
| 01:02.34 | Semlar | pretty much tabbed through mind controlled players on garrosh for me |
| 01:04.24 | relaxok | i'm currently trying to figure out why chat window tabs aren't resizing and also how to get the chat window to be the focused edit box |
| 01:04.28 | relaxok | (with the mouse) |
| 01:14.49 | relaxok | does a frame have to be mouse enabled for onenter/onleave to do anything? |
| 01:15.00 | relaxok | because the statusbars in the unit frames aren't mouse enabled |
| 01:15.09 | relaxok | does it propogate down? |
| 01:15.44 | Semlar | yes a frame has to be mouse enabled for mouse events |
| 01:16.02 | Semlar | no it doesn't propagate |
| 01:16.19 | Semlar | otherwise children would intercept all of the mouse events |
| 01:16.51 | relaxok | so how do the health and mana bars show text when you mouseover them? |
| 01:17.30 | Semlar | they're mouse enabled |
| 01:18.24 | relaxok | where? |
| 01:18.29 | Semlar | i'm not going to dig through templates to figure out where they're being enabled |
| 01:19.32 | Semlar | also giving a mouse script to a frame enables the mouse for it |
| 01:19.40 | Semlar | they don't have to be explicitly mouse enabled |
| 01:20.11 | Semlar | frame:SetScript('OnEnter') would do it |
| 01:21.41 | relaxok | ah |
| 01:23.18 | relaxok | i assume the same goes for onleave, onmouseup, onmousedown, onclick |
| 01:24.18 | relaxok | and then for keyboard events enablekeyboard |
| 01:31.43 | relaxok | damn that was a pretty key piece of info to know, Semlar |
| 01:32.13 | relaxok | i just had a breakpoint on everything that had a mouse or keyboard related script either in the xml or with SetScript that didn't already have enablemouse or enablekeyboard, and there were ltos |
| 01:32.26 | relaxok | lots* |
| 01:32.54 | Semlar | you should probably experiment in game with exactly how adding and removing those scripts from a frame makes it behave |
| 01:33.48 | relaxok | yeah... i have been doing a lot of stuff in game for API purposes.. basically seeing with a new basic character, what do they all return by default |
| 01:33.53 | relaxok | with /dump |
| 01:43.38 | Mr_Rabies | hehe hilarious typo in the alert |
| 01:43.40 | Mr_Rabies | ~wowalert |
| 01:43.40 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 01:43.52 | Mr_Rabies | aw, not that one, the bnet one |
| 01:44.08 | Mr_Rabies | well, not really hilarious but it made me laugh |
| 01:44.11 | Mr_Rabies | "During this time you will be able to use Battle.net is offline mode only." |
| 02:04.04 | Gethe | where can i find a quest that uses a tracker item button? |
| 02:04.50 | kd3 | I'm not sure they fixed pre-6.0 quests, but you'll get one ~5 quests in to tanaan come launch |
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| 02:28.37 | Ironii | anyone else having problems with addon list in beta? |
| 02:29.41 | Gethe | this taint business with UseQuestLogSpecialItem() is frustrating. Seems everyone but me is getting it. :/ |
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| 02:38.31 | Kemayo | The joys of Blizzard having rewritten the objective tracker once again. |
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| 03:43.41 | DJJeff | question about shadowed unit frames.... whats this icon thats on the DK in my party |
| 03:43.42 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/zWDa7ku.jpg |
| 03:43.58 | DJJeff | its covering up his name and his level |
| 03:44.02 | kullervo | spirit of redemption |
| 03:44.07 | DJJeff | what does that do |
| 03:44.17 | kullervo | it's a priest skill that activates when they die |
| 03:44.22 | DJJeff | ah |
| 03:44.23 | kullervo | I don't know why it's on the DK's frame |
| 03:44.37 | DJJeff | I do not have a priest in my group |
| 03:44.40 | Simca | it isn't Shadowed Unit Frames putting it there |
| 03:44.47 | DJJeff | oh? |
| 03:44.51 | Simca | at least I've never seen anything like it and I use it |
| 03:44.57 | kullervo | your UI has a silly amount of dead space :| |
| 03:45.11 | Neffi | oh joy, random crashes in applications that have been stable forever. |
| 03:45.22 | DJJeff | the 200 pixels of black along the bottom? |
| 03:45.34 | kullervo | and top |
| 03:45.35 | DJJeff | and 40 along the top? |
| 03:45.59 | DJJeff | does not bother me because I use |
| 03:46.00 | DJJeff | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/ct_viewport |
| 03:46.10 | kullervo | http://goo.gl/9n2zD1 |
| 03:46.12 | DJJeff | so only the middle gets render |
| 03:46.43 | DJJeff | also... lol @ too many toolbars |
| 03:46.53 | kullervo | same effect |
| 03:47.01 | DJJeff | I have cleaned out over 40 peoples computers of too many toolbars |
| 03:47.03 | Constie | I mean, you still see less of the game world with that, even if it's not the most important part you cut out. |
| 03:48.04 | DJJeff | someone suggested I just use viewport and viewport art |
| 03:48.25 | kullervo | ewwww extra clutter that doesn't even contain information :| |
| 03:48.58 | kullervo | shows some people just have never taken art classes seriously |
| 03:49.20 | DJJeff | lol |
| 03:49.38 | DJJeff | when I build websites I stare at code I do not spend years in photoshop lol |
| 03:49.42 | Constie | My last art class was in... fifth grade, I think? I took it pretty seriously. |
| 03:50.03 | DJJeff | art was never my thing |
| 03:50.04 | Constie | Just do this, though: http://oopsihitaltz.blogspot.com/2009/10/october-22-2.html |
| 03:51.05 | kullervo | that's neat, actually |
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| 03:51.06 | DJJeff | my UI is crazy insane but it does not get in the way of my gameplay |
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| 03:51.33 | kullervo | used to have similar on my priest in tbc, Constie. With raid frames and no skill buttons. |
| 03:51.44 | DJJeff | also I like how I did 72% of healing done in that run |
| 03:51.47 | kullervo | Chat was hidden as well since it contained no useful information... |
| 03:51.52 | DJJeff | most runs the tank does 35% |
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| 03:52.10 | kullervo | sometimes the tank has a dps spec and does 90% of the healing |
| 03:52.17 | DJJeff | LOL |
| 03:52.25 | DJJeff | I just jizzed when you said that |
| 03:52.31 | kullervo | sometimes the tank has a healer spec and does 99% of the healing and 50% of the damage |
| 03:52.33 | DJJeff | cause its saddly true |
| 03:53.03 | Constie | Few people think their UI hinders them in any way. |
| 03:55.14 | kullervo | I was going to hide most combat events from the middle scrolling combat text sometime during WOTLK I think |
| 03:55.17 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/gallery/photos/Screenshots/World%20of%20Warcraft/WoWScrnShot_101614_200717.jpg |
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| 04:18.28 | Ironii | Constie few people think when they play wow ^^ |
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| 04:37.04 | DJJeff | hahaha high five Ironii |
| 04:41.21 | DJJeff | kullervo your omen threat meter is sooooo dinky small |
| 04:41.23 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/kEEyATN.jpg |
| 04:41.28 | DJJeff | compared to mine |
| 04:42.12 | DJJeff | oh hahaha I still laugh I passed army of the dead threat by 105% |
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| 04:43.16 | DJJeff | with 2 DK's in the group im not sure which DK's army I passed in threat |
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| 04:43.48 | Dagmar | Hopefully the one dual-wielding banannas. |
| 04:43.58 | DJJeff | lol |
| 04:44.46 | DJJeff | that screenshot was taken right after the 6.0.2 patch I had a hard time healing |
| 04:45.04 | DJJeff | till they fixed healers again in the hotfix |
| 04:48.00 | DJJeff | I actually do like how your player hp bar is smaller |
| 04:48.09 | DJJeff | I might go for that |
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| 05:01.03 | Gethe | http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6289124/guardians-of-the-galaxy-soundtrack-cassette-tape |
| 05:02.50 | Constie | kullervo's threat meter definitely needs to be way bigger. What if the #2 person gets up to 10%? |
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| 05:05.41 | Ironii | DJJeff why are you using so many different statusbar textures? |
| 05:11.30 | Ironii | mhh, i have been playing warlock for 9-10months and i don't have any screenshots in raid with it ;o |
| 05:11.56 | Ironii | that's just sad |
| 05:12.03 | Constie | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9590-MultishotScreenshot.html |
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| 05:15.10 | Ironii | nah, taking scrshots of end of the tier bosses is enough |
| 05:15.34 | Ironii | i just started playing warlock after the progress was already over |
| 05:15.41 | Ironii | just wanted to show it ;P |
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| 06:28.14 | tinystomper | g'evening |
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| 06:37.14 | Cruciformer | evening all |
| 06:37.38 | Cruciformer | Shadowed you around by any chance? |
| 06:38.55 | Primer | Howdy |
| 06:39.06 | Primer | I recall that I use one of your addons...I just don't recall which :) |
| 06:39.09 | Primer | KSK! |
| 06:39.13 | Primer | It just came to me |
| 06:39.32 | Cruciformer | :) I'd be shocked and awed if you used KPUG - very few do :) |
| 06:39.57 | Primer | I'm surprised a bunch of people use my PitBull4_Arrow, which I wrote for myself |
| 06:40.12 | Primer | But I've had like 500 downloads since I've updated it |
| 06:40.33 | Cruciformer | Primer btw I just uploaded a new version which fixed a bug with detecting guild officers. Only really important if you were trying to create a new guild config and you werent the gm. |
| 06:40.57 | Primer | We haven't had the opportunity to use ksk yet |
| 06:41.04 | Cruciformer | it's just awaiting curse approval but its on wowinterface. |
| 06:41.27 | Cruciformer | ah :) Well I sincerely hope it works out for you if/when you do. |
| 06:41.58 | Primer | thanks. I'll be sure to report bugs and help test if it does not |
| 06:42.34 | Cruciformer | I absolutely love bug reports from, people that can code. Just had the first such one in a LONG time the other day. User had a problem, found the cause and fixed it for himself. |
| 06:44.27 | Primer | heh, I posted a patch to an inactive addon years ago that I still use...and it remains unpatched because the repo's closed :) |
| 06:44.32 | Cruciformer | suicide kings seems to have waned considerably as a loot system but there are a few die-hards out there that still love it :) |
| 06:45.49 | Cruciformer | at one stage it was all the rage and I was getting about 6K downloads per release, now its about 1.5K. |
| 06:47.47 | Cruciformer | well if shadowed has pinged out I guess I am not going to be able to ask him an SUF question :) |
| 06:47.48 | Mr_Rabies | argh i can't think of a name for my dwarf shaman |
| 06:47.50 | Mr_Rabies | :< |
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| 06:48.38 | Cruciformer | wb shadowed. you live or that an autojoin? |
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| 06:49.27 | Cruciformer | Or perhaps any other SUF users around? |
| 06:50.10 | Constie | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj0nWAM3Bcw is probably the best addon demonstration video I've seen, and also I think I'd actually use that for the only if out of range arrows if I were a healer. |
| 06:50.27 | Constie | I've used SUF a little bit. |
| 06:51.08 | tinystomper | hey guys... i got a workability one for you (wow group finder related) |
| 06:51.42 | tinystomper | using C_LFGList.Search will retrun a set of activityIDs for each group returned. |
| 06:51.48 | Cruciformer | Constie: do you know if it is possible to have it arrange the raid frames in the actual correct group order? |
| 06:52.22 | Cruciformer | So if there are 6 groups, I have 6 lines of raid frames, each with the actual members of each group? |
| 06:52.27 | tinystomper | C_LFGList.Search( LFGGetID("Raids"), "" ) --> a set of group ids ie: { 10, 11, 12 } |
| 06:52.33 | nevcairiel | Cruciformer: i have mine working like that |
| 06:52.39 | nevcairiel | what does it do otherwise? O.o |
| 06:52.56 | tinystomper | i can then do C_LFGList.ApplyToGroup to any of those activityIDs and i'll get wait listed. |
| 06:53.00 | tinystomper | but.... |
| 06:53.10 | Cruciformer | nevcairiel: Mine just seems to start filling from left to right, max 5 per "line" |
| 06:53.35 | nevcairiel | i guess there is an optionb somewhere |
| 06:53.50 | tinystomper | if i held onto the first set of data... then make another search (ie: C_LFGList.Search( LFGGetID("Dungeons"), "" ) ) and get back { 20,22 }... |
| 06:53.58 | Constie | Cruciformer: http://i.imgur.com/2EPgU52.png |
| 06:54.01 | Cruciformer | Indeed but since there are more SUF options than there are hydrogen atoms in the known multiverse I figured I'd ask :) |
| 06:54.18 | tinystomper | i would now have a set of ids to work with... { 10, 11, 12, 20, 22 } |
| 06:54.28 | nevcairiel | Cruciformer: units -> raid -> raid -> Separate raid frames |
| 06:54.43 | tinystomper | problem is, it would seem i cannot use the ids from the first search in ApplyToGroup |
| 06:55.13 | Cruciformer | Ah bless you both (constie and nevcairiel). |
| 06:55.15 | tinystomper | anyone know if this is actually the case? |
| 06:56.31 | Cruciformer | and I am guessing if I set "Groups per row" to 1, I will end up with a max of 8 rows, each one with that group |
| 06:56.42 | Cruciformer | that was my problem ... I had groups per row set to 8. |
| 06:57.26 | nevcairiel | yeah set row growth to right and groups per row to 1, and you can stack them up nicely |
| 06:58.19 | nevcairiel | col growth to down probably |
| 06:58.23 | Constie | I'm inclined to think that if you can get away with having raid frames arranged like that you can also get away with just hiding them. |
| 06:58.25 | nevcairiel | just experiemtn a bit :) |
| 06:58.35 | Constie | I would be, though. |
| 06:59.41 | nevcairiel | doesnt seem like a too odd layout. most people use vertical group blocks all next to each other, who is to say a horizontal group block all on top of each other is any worse |
| 07:00.03 | Cruciformer | Constie: screen rel estate isnt an issue (30" monitors) and its useful whe on things like spoils, for example, when the RL says "groups 1, 3 and 5 left, groups 2 and 4 right" |
| 07:00.24 | Constie | Fair enough with a huge monitor. |
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| 07:02.07 | Simca | tinystomper: i guess you'd have to redo the search when the user requests to join, and then make sure the group they wanted was still listed, find it, and match it against the stored properties of it you knew from the first search, and then apply using that ID |
| 07:02.14 | Constie | And I'd say a vertical layout would make it easier to quickly scan through for low health, nevcairiel, but I wouldn't use that layout either! |
| 07:03.50 | tinystomper | simca: do you think there's a concept of the activityIDs being 'stale'? |
| 07:03.50 | Simca | blizzard really should have used a hash of some sort for those though, yeah |
| 07:04.12 | Simca | two digit numbers can't possibly be real references, they have to just be recycled based on your last search |
| 07:04.42 | tinystomper | also... it seems the same group will come back with a different activityID if i query the category a second time |
| 07:04.50 | Simca | yeah |
| 07:07.27 | tinystomper | seems whacked |
| 07:07.30 | tinystomper | http://i.imgur.com/5evGxkp.png |
| 07:08.26 | tinystomper | the group 'Share the love & what the eck' has numerous activityIDs .. 66990, 66991, 66992 ... 3 separate searches 10 second apart |
| 07:09.09 | tinystomper | why wouldn't it have the same id every time? seems off. what're they trying to do here?? |
| 07:11.03 | Simca | maybe it changes every time a member joins/leaves/is wait listed |
| 07:11.03 | tinystomper | any insight would be most appreciated |
| 07:11.22 | tinystomper | it seems to change after each search |
| 07:13.54 | Simca | i think the answer is probably just 'blizzard did something dumb' |
| 07:14.53 | tinystomper | how do we get it fixed? |
| 07:15.30 | tinystomper | i know they don't read the forums |
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| 07:15.50 | karl_w_w | I fucking hate software that doesnt use consistent version numbering |
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| 07:15.58 | karl_w_w | like greasemonkey |
| 07:16.08 | tinystomper | oh its consist... consistently changing |
| 07:17.05 | karl_w_w | they call it 2.2 everwhere except when you install it when it's 0.9.22 |
| 07:17.16 | tinystomper | >.< |
| 07:20.14 | Simca | tweets work sometimes if you tweet enough devs and sound humble enough |
| 07:20.24 | Simca | or if you know somebody who knows people who aren't useless |
| 07:22.22 | nevcairiel | I don't think blizzards consider that a bug, its probably just an ID internal to the client, and not linked to whatever global ID the group has. Don't expect anything to change in that regard :p |
| 07:22.42 | Cruciformer | Life is good. SUF once again does exactly what I want it to. |
| 07:24.36 | tinystomper | oh, i'm constantly updating the id ... but when i go to use it with ApplyToGroup ... it doesn't work and there's no error response. |
| 07:33.29 | tinystomper | this crap makes me want to flip a table |
| 07:34.01 | Simca | except there's no harm to expose the global ID here, nevcairiel, and there is no use for the internal ID for addon authors except as a shitty makeshift workaround |
| 07:34.13 | Simca | and they -ARE- asking for constructive feedback in their big blue thread |
| 07:34.32 | Simca | so it is possible it could change |
| 07:34.45 | Simca | if you somehow managed to get the attention of somebody with knowledge |
| 07:35.50 | tinystomper | i've never had the feeling they're trying to help addon devs. more like mess with them to get a laugh |
| 07:36.41 | tinystomper | why not have a irc or vent channel where addon devs could freely talk w/ someone that has a clue about the backend |
| 07:40.16 | nevcairiel | in any case, anyone that complains about the API should've tested it on the beta month ago when they asked for feedback the first time, so it could actually still be changed for live, now you have to wait for 6.1 anyway |
| 07:41.30 | Simca | yeah, start the complaining now, but low intensity |
| 07:41.36 | Simca | then right when 6.1 PTR kicks off |
| 07:41.43 | Simca | increase complaint intensity tenfold |
| 07:41.47 | Simca | you might get something done |
| 07:41.49 | tinystomper | there was no way to test the GroupFinder search features in beta. there were never any groups |
| 07:42.18 | nevcairiel | find 2 friends to create 2 groups, and you would have noticed the ID thing already i bet =) |
| 07:42.28 | tinystomper | the issues here appears while under load |
| 07:42.58 | Lynxium | How do you know that if you didn't test it there? |
| 07:43.35 | tinystomper | i wouldn't have known about the 26 group limit unless i was informed by an insider. (i think they upped the limit with the hotfixes) |
| 07:44.32 | tinystomper | why 26 was the chosen number out of the gate is beyond me |
| 07:44.34 | DJJeff | Torhal why did you mark this as invalid? |
| 07:44.34 | DJJeff | http://www.wowace.com/addons/travelagent/tickets/13-will-not-show-coordinates-on-ldb-bar/ |
| 07:44.41 | nevcairiel | its 25, not 26 |
| 07:45.04 | nevcairiel | DJJeff: read carefully, the guy changed it himself |
| 07:45.05 | Torhal | DJJeff: Read the first sentence in the ticket itself. |
| 07:45.07 | tinystomper | guess that is a bit more 'round' (was told 26 back in beta) |
| 07:45.42 | Lynxium | rounding from 26 to 25? I doubt |
| 07:46.06 | nevcairiel | its 100 now, at least in the US, EU was still 25 yesterday, and not enough groups up at this time of day to check |
| 07:47.08 | DJJeff | Torhal I use bazooka for my LDB bars |
| 07:47.14 | Torhal | Same. |
| 07:47.17 | DJJeff | it shows the CO ORD in tool tip |
| 07:47.22 | DJJeff | but not on the bar itself |
| 07:47.30 | Torhal | It has two feeds. |
| 07:47.34 | Torhal | One has coords. |
| 07:47.40 | DJJeff | how do I enable the 2nd? |
| 07:47.49 | Torhal | In Bazooka. |
| 07:47.59 | Torhal | I just provide the feeds - the display is what shows 'em. |
| 07:48.00 | DJJeff | ok I have bazooka settings open |
| 07:48.15 | DJJeff | where do I turn it on? |
| 07:48.27 | Torhal | I'd have to log in and look. :D |
| 07:48.52 | DJJeff | darn |
| 07:48.57 | DJJeff | server shutdown in 10min |
| 07:49.16 | DJJeff | ohhhhhhhhhhhhh I see |
| 07:49.27 | DJJeff | its actually its own setting in bazooka |
| 07:49.32 | Torhal | Yar. |
| 07:49.38 | DJJeff | they are not together |
| 07:49.51 | Torhal | Nope - you have to tell Bazooka where you want 'em. |
| 07:49.52 | DJJeff | there is a large gap between the 2 |
| 07:50.29 | nevcairiel | so pick it up and drag it where you need it |
| 07:50.46 | DJJeff | screenshot here |
| 07:50.47 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/gpxRMp5.jpg |
| 07:51.04 | DJJeff | the 70.09 23.82 is really off to the right :( |
| 07:51.22 | Torhal | Bazooka has margins and padding settings. |
| 07:51.34 | Torhal | Like I said - I provide the feeds. It's up the the LDB display to show 'em. |
| 07:51.35 | DJJeff | maybe I should move the currency one and put the co ord on bar 2 |
| 07:51.45 | DJJeff | in the middle |
| 07:51.59 | DJJeff | ok I will do that |
| 07:52.56 | DJJeff | done |
| 07:52.57 | Constie | Why would they start maintenance when I kind of felt like spending some time setting up my UI today? What are they thinking? |
| 07:52.59 | DJJeff | looks great now |
| 07:53.17 | nevcairiel | Constie: dont work on UI at 1am? |
| 07:53.31 | Constie | That's the craziest thing I've heard in my life. |
| 07:53.41 | Lynxium | lol |
| 07:53.44 | Torhal | Tuesday maintenance has been a thing for a decade. |
| 07:54.01 | nevcairiel | long maint may also mean a bugfix patch |
| 07:54.05 | Constie | I'd be fine with them doing it tomorrow instead. |
| 07:54.06 | Torhal | Personally? I blame Semlar. |
| 07:54.07 | nevcairiel | which is a good thing |
| 07:54.17 | Constie | Semlar! Come on. You had one job. |
| 07:54.19 | nevcairiel | Constie: move to the EU, then its tomorrow |
| 07:54.31 | DJJeff | sooooooooo US goes down...... EU still up |
| 07:54.32 | DJJeff | damn |
| 07:54.39 | DJJeff | I wish EU and US went down |
| 07:54.49 | DJJeff | so twitch.tv had 0 streamers of wow |
| 07:54.59 | Lynxium | haha |
| 07:55.06 | Constie | Oh, I suppose I could use an EU starter account? |
| 07:55.13 | Lynxium | yeah |
| 07:55.14 | DJJeff | yup |
| 07:55.22 | Torhal | goes to bed. |
| 07:55.28 | nevcairiel | DJJeff: but its 10am in the EU, don't shut stuff down now! |
| 07:56.18 | Constie | I am in Europe, so it is actually at 10 that I would be working on my UI. |
| 07:56.32 | nevcairiel | but you play on a US realm? |
| 07:56.44 | Constie | Yes. |
| 07:57.00 | nevcairiel | weirdo. |
| 07:57.08 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 07:57.29 | Constie | US friends got me into WoW, and I didn't expect I'd still be playing WoW and have a gigantic sunk cost in 2014. |
| 07:59.52 | DJJeff | to play wow on EU I need a EU client? and EU launcher? |
| 08:00.09 | Lynxium | I don't think so |
| 08:00.19 | DJJeff | probley for EU dialog lol |
| 08:00.23 | Simca | no |
| 08:00.39 | Xuerian | See, this is why I don't bother trying to guild with these people |
| 08:00.46 | Simca | not unless you want it in a different language |
| 08:00.48 | Xuerian | They're all having tea, crumpets, and doing unspeakable things to sheep |
| 08:01.07 | Constie | You need an EU account, which would be completely separate from your US account. |
| 08:01.23 | Simca | just login with your EU account and hit play |
| 08:01.27 | DJJeff | wait whats this about sheep? |
| 08:01.48 | Kalroth | wooly discussion |
| 08:02.34 | Constie | And you can change a config.wtf setting to let you select different languages in your US client. I think it might need to download some extra files, but you don't need a separate installation. |
| 08:04.28 | Lynxium | Dunno I didn't change anything and I can play on EU and US, iirc I just downloaded the starter edition for US and that's it |
| 08:05.31 | Lynxium | It may change files but I'm not so sure, was long time ago :) |
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| 08:16.14 | DJJeff | heh... |
| 08:16.14 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/RTxkX0j.jpg |
| 08:26.27 | Mr_Rabies | your minimap appears to be aflame |
| 08:26.52 | Alram | poor minimap |
| 08:27.48 | DJJeff | that SS was from like 2011 |
| 08:28.24 | DJJeff | the minimap addon is sexymap which is still updated |
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| 08:30.25 | p3lim | that author got the name completely wrong |
| 08:30.51 | Gethe | ^ |
| 08:31.13 | Constie | It is pretty hot. |
| 08:31.18 | Constie | Get it? |
| 08:31.28 | p3lim | funny |
| 08:48.56 | DJJeff | I miss when trade chat was this good |
| 08:48.59 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/2GOvKGU.jpg |
| 08:49.09 | DJJeff | wow did I ever make that server angry |
| 08:49.37 | DJJeff | screenshot was taken âAugust-â01-â10, ââ4:40:46 AM |
| 08:50.00 | Neffi | I hear this Canadianjeff guy is a pretty cool dude |
| 08:50.19 | DJJeff | awwwwww thanks <3 |
| 08:53.00 | Constie | Apparently your game clock was off by 5 minutes and 30 seconds. |
| 08:53.17 | DJJeff | it was |
| 08:53.45 | DJJeff | I wonder if I can.... check the wow armory for some of these people |
| 08:53.50 | DJJeff | and see if they still play wow |
| 08:54.00 | Constie | I believe in your typing ability. |
| 08:54.15 | DJJeff | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/search?q=gtone&f=wowcharacter |
| 08:54.23 | DJJeff | only 29 named gtone |
| 08:54.47 | DJJeff | only 2 are level 90 and not a priest |
| 08:56.06 | DJJeff | 199 results for hammertime :( |
| 08:57.38 | DJJeff | ha! |
| 08:57.47 | DJJeff | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/search?q=woolygoliath |
| 08:58.00 | DJJeff | only 1 and it can not be viewed |
| 08:58.21 | DJJeff | lightbringer was the realm it was on too |
| 09:01.50 | DJJeff | ooooooooooooo this needs to be a toy for toy box |
| 09:01.50 | DJJeff | http://www.wowhead.com/item=13379/piccolo-of-the-flaming-fire |
| 09:01.57 | DJJeff | I had 1 |
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| 10:53.57 | doub | i'm updating an addon and SetOverrideBindingItem doesn't seem to work anymore, but i don't get any error |
| 10:54.05 | doub | any idea what could have changed to cause that? |
| 11:05.34 | p3lim | I think the params changed for that one |
| 11:09.36 | Mr_Rabies | there's not a console/launch command to launch the game with the UI entirely hidden is there? |
| 11:09.51 | Mr_Rabies | kinda tempted to grab a screenshot of the login screen without UI for our guild website |
| 11:10.29 | nevcairiel | only if it animates |
| 11:11.09 | doub | actually, i just realised my SetOverrideBindingItem work with a hearthstone, but not a toy |
| 11:11.14 | Mr_Rabies | not a bad idea, actually, if i could do that, nevcairiel |
| 11:11.31 | doub | is there a new function or keyword in SetBinding (instead of ITEM) for toys? |
| 11:11.47 | Mr_Rabies | our guild website is pretty simplistic, but it's probably possible if i putz around in the CSS options and stuff (which i know nothing about) |
| 11:21.50 | p3lim | toys are spells now afaik |
| 11:23.23 | Mr_Rabies | i really wish there was more WoD art out there |
| 11:23.27 | Mr_Rabies | weird that there still isn't much |
| 11:24.13 | Mr_Rabies | almost 100% of what's out there is orcs |
| 11:24.28 | Mr_Rabies | and i made the mistake of searching for "draenei" on deviantart, to see if there was any suitable fanart |
| 11:24.35 | Mr_Rabies | long story short...there was not |
| 11:25.23 | doub | no fanart or not suitable ? |
| 11:25.30 | Mr_Rabies | not suitable |
| 11:25.37 | Mr_Rabies | not that it's not good art, but uh |
| 11:25.52 | Mr_Rabies | entirely too lewd |
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| 22:25.03 | [TOM_RUS] | DJJeff, don't have "portal" cvar set? |
| 22:25.58 | DJJeff | its not my addon |
| 22:26.34 | DJJeff | I was just bored and looking at all them errors |
| 22:29.02 | DJJeff | this addon still works can someone toc bump it? |
| 22:29.03 | DJJeff | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/dbm-spelltimers/ |
| 22:30.11 | Mr_Rabies | haven't a ton of raid spells changed though? |
| 22:30.19 | DJJeff | dunno |
| 22:30.22 | Mr_Rabies | it works, but like, cooldowns and the actual spells have changed |
| 22:30.33 | DJJeff | for the most part it works and I still use it |
| 22:30.46 | DJJeff | no lua errors |
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| 22:36.49 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 22:36.59 | Mr_Rabies | quick way to get a short ban for no good reason: http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/thunderfury |
| 22:40.18 | Mr_Rabies | hmm, there's no /petspec command or anything yet is there? |
| 22:40.41 | Mr_Rabies | i've got a /script in a macro, but it throws lua errors if i use it in combat |
| 22:41.25 | Gragagrogog | Mr_Rabies: why would you get banned for that? i have an addon that responds to "hi" in guildchat... |
| 22:41.49 | Mr_Rabies | because you'd be spamming the same thing literally everytime someone linked thunderfury in chat |
| 22:42.09 | Mr_Rabies | even though it's spam filtered, public chat is always more closely scrutinized versus guild chat, etc |
| 22:42.29 | fewyn | i got banned for having the Reported addon enabled on 3 multiboxed accounts |
| 22:42.37 | fewyn | someone reported me for it :( |
| 22:42.43 | fewyn | this was about 6 months ago |
| 22:43.33 | Constie | Metasnitches get stitches. |
| 22:43.34 | Gragagrogog | hmm,ok i got random delays + cooldown in my hi responder... |
| 22:45.00 | Mr_Rabies | i've heard horror stories of bans from tradeforwarder but i hope their customer support understands how it works by now |
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| 22:46.29 | Gragagrogog | wierd ban reasons... |
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| 22:52.38 | DJJeff | im probley the reason why limit 2 messages in chat exists |
| 22:52.38 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/4pLmA3T.jpg |
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| 23:24.49 | Kesava | i was so hoping they'd fix holy pala's sounds during beta |
| 23:24.57 | Kesava | but nope, they're still the most annoying healers |
| 23:25.04 | Kesava | BWOOOOBWOOOOBWOOOOBWOOOOBWOOOBWOOO |
| 23:25.04 | Kesava | etc. |
| 23:25.33 | Semlar | did somebody mention bwoobs |
| 23:25.47 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Semlar |
| 23:25.47 | purl | takes out a cattle prod and gives Semlar a good jolt |
| 23:30.10 | Semlar | :( |
| 23:31.36 | Gragagrogog | i was hoping they're gonna fix 3 mistweaver bugs i personaly reported, guess not |
| 23:32.26 | Gragagrogog | 4 actualy |
| 23:32.50 | Simca | class/spec bugs are the most likely to be fixed outside of a major patch (6.1) |
| 23:32.58 | Simca | so there is hope for those kind of fixes |
| 23:43.43 | DJJeff | can |
| 23:44.13 | DJJeff | is there an addon or anything that lets me have the chat box the same width height and location across all my toons |
| 23:44.30 | DJJeff | I used prat in the past right now I have chatter installed |
| 23:49.05 | DJJeff | each time I make a new toon seems like I need to set bartender4, recount on default profile and resize and reposition chat |
| 23:49.42 | fewyn | i usually just copy the SV from my main to the new character |
| 23:49.52 | Ironii | do you know enough of lua to insert code into right place? |
| 23:50.09 | DJJeff | a fix for bartender would be to copy the default profile into the new one |
| 23:50.41 | DJJeff | and then but then it would no longer be default profile |
| 23:50.53 | DJJeff | damn scratch that idea |
| 23:52.11 | DJJeff | probley 99% of the my addons use default as its profile |
| 23:52.21 | DJJeff | I hardly use toon specific settings |
| 23:52.43 | DJJeff | except for maybe WIM messenger and arkinvintory |
| 23:55.09 | Neffi | I'm with DJJeff. It's annoying as hell when a mod doesn't default to "Default" profile. I hate having to open up BT4's config and change this on every new toon. |
| 23:55.35 | Neffi | I wonder if it's possible/practical to write an addon that will find all addons using AceConfig and switch them over to "Default" on first login. |
| 23:57.08 | Simca | write a new version of AceConfig with character-based profiles overwritten by the one of a specific toon (your main), and then just increment the altered aceconfig's library revision number by 10 or something so your version is always the best version |
| 23:57.28 | Ironii | and then there are addons that doesn't support profile choosing, only copying |
| 23:57.47 | Neffi | Except I don't *want* character-specific config on most of the addons I use |
| 23:58.24 | Neffi | I'd rather write a patched AceConfig that enforces "Default" as the real default, and ignores any addons that attempt to set a different default |
| 23:59.27 | Ironii | y, creating new profile for each character istead of choosing default is just stupid in most cases |
