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| 00:07.56 | Arrowmaster | my mouse is reporting that its batteries are at 0% yet its working fine and isnt blinking red at me yet.... |
| 00:08.20 | Arrowmaster | oh i turned off and back on again it and blinked red for a few seconds |
| 00:11.33 | DJJeff | ummmmmmmmmmmmmm candy bukkit shadowmoon valley sanctum of the stars is hostile?????? |
| 00:11.59 | Arrowmaster | a hostile candy bucket? |
| 00:12.04 | kd3 | do the aldor one instead |
| 00:12.21 | DJJeff | im not talking about the shattrath bukkit |
| 00:12.29 | DJJeff | shadowmoon valley sanctum of the stars |
| 00:12.47 | kd3 | yup, that's a scryer-affiliated camp. you're aldor. go to the camp due north |
| 00:13.04 | DJJeff | ohhhh |
| 00:13.49 | DJJeff | vlad's addon told me to come here |
| 00:13.50 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/mUX9Jdc.jpg |
| 00:13.56 | DJJeff | I got 1 shot :( |
| 00:14.21 | DJJeff | not sure I like tidy plates *sigh* |
| 00:14.29 | DJJeff | I need to find a good skin for it |
| 00:15.17 | DJJeff | tom tom is very verbal about adding waypoints |
| 00:16.51 | Primer | Anyone know how to put an icon in the text part of an AceConfig select dropdown? |
| 00:18.01 | Primer | Or if it's even possible? |
| 00:19.06 | Semlar | you can embed a texture in a font string if you can't do it through some built in function |
| 00:19.27 | Primer | yeah, I've tried that, but I'm guessing I did it incorrectly |
| 00:20.15 | Semlar | http://wowpedia.org/UI_Escape_Sequences#Textures |
| 00:20.58 | Semlar | eg. |Tinterface/icons/inv_mushroom_11:16|t or something along those lines |
| 00:21.34 | Primer | yeah, I have something like that now, but it's not showing, and there's no error |
| 00:22.47 | Semlar | i think you can actually just use 0 in the size field for it to default to the font size |
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| 00:23.22 | Semlar | anyway, you may have the path wrong or the format off |
| 00:23.40 | Semlar | and the pipe character won't work if you're trying to do this through slash commands in game |
| 00:23.46 | Primer | well, the whole \\ vs. \ always throws me off |
| 00:23.58 | Primer | I have a wowlua that works |
| 00:23.58 | Semlar | just use a forward slash |
| 00:24.05 | Primer | from way back when trying something else |
| 00:30.38 | Primer | ok, I have a string that works in wowlua |
| 00:32.00 | Primer | but that's just printing to chat |
| 00:32.19 | Primer | nice, it worked in the select :) |
| 00:32.52 | Primer | now I need to figure out how to make that icon path work as a config variable |
| 00:34.26 | foxlit | http://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/#h:22a4a7a07f50e126ee61f946bfccd861-loadorder << you can now click on files in the loading order list to hide them from subsequent lists |
| 00:35.27 | Stanzilla | omg rose 2 leaked! |
| 00:37.10 | Semlar | omg it supports 6.0 |
| 00:38.20 | foxlit | well, technically, so did orange. |
| 00:46.39 | Primer | Can someone please explain to me how icon paths work? Right now I have an AceConfig default that reads thusly: arrow_icon = [[Interface\MiniMap\MiniMap-QuestArrow]] |
| 00:47.20 | Primer | This works when doing this: arrow:SetTexture(db.arrow_icon) |
| 00:47.50 | Semlar | if you're asking why backslashes don't need to be escaped in that path it's because of the brackets |
| 00:47.51 | Primer | But then in the select itself, I'd have to set the paths as the index of the select table |
| 00:48.36 | Primer | Do I need to jump through another hoop, such as making a separate table for the icons, or can I use these inline somehow in the select table? |
| 00:49.17 | Primer | i.e. values = { [[Interface\\Minimap\\MinimapArrow]] = "|TInterface\\Minimap\\MinimapArrow:16:16:0:0:64:64:4:60:4:60|t" .. L["Minimap Arrow"], <--- that's a parse error, of course |
| 00:49.53 | foxlit | [ ] around the string |
| 00:49.53 | foxlit | mind the spaces |
| 00:49.55 | Neffi | <foxlit> ... <- neat! |
| 00:50.20 | Primer | so technically [[foo]] is a string? |
| 00:50.24 | foxlit | you're basically trying to do { "foo" = "bar" } and that's a syntax error because you can't specify key literals tha tway |
| 00:50.32 | Neffi | yes, [[foo]] is a literal string without escapes |
| 00:50.39 | foxlit | yes. |
| 00:50.56 | Primer | sooo [[[Interface\\Minimap\\MinimapArrow]]] = "|TInterface\\Minimap\\MinimapArrow:16:16:0:0:64:64:4:60:4:60|t" .. L["Minimap Arrow"] ? |
| 00:51.01 | Semlar | probably |
| 00:51.02 | Neffi | so [[ \\ ]] is a string containing TWO backslashes, whereas "\\" is one containing one |
| 00:51.06 | Semlar | well no |
| 00:51.09 | Primer | that's still showing as a parse error in my editor |
| 00:51.17 | Semlar | change the \\ to \ if you're using [[ ]] |
| 00:51.24 | Semlar | not that that would throw an error |
| 00:51.36 | Neffi | [[[.]]] <- ambiguity? try adding a space |
| 00:51.38 | foxlit | [ [[foo]] ] |
| 00:51.39 | Neffi | [ [[...]] ] |
| 00:51.48 | Neffi | damn foxlit, beat me to it |
| 00:51.51 | Semlar | otherwise just use quotes |
| 00:52.02 | Primer | ok, the editor isn't complaining now |
| 00:52.08 | Neffi | hoorah |
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| 01:04.21 | fewyn | i sometimes wish the auction house had a longer auction time than 48 hours |
| 01:05.08 | kd3 | I just want buy orders for trade goods |
| 01:05.15 | fewyn | i would like those too |
| 01:25.40 | pompy | http://www.popularmechanics.com/how-to/blog/comic-sans-typewriter-17324088 |
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| 02:27.45 | DJJeff | Torhal, I notice npcscan does not go off as much anymore I am one sad fat panna |
| 02:28.14 | Trela | It scares me when I come across a comment on line 304 that mentions looking at line 2211 within the same function. //Delayed to the construction of the SQL query, see near line 2211, gs |
| 02:28.46 | Trela | Also the fact that the comment relies on the line numbering staying the same. |
| 02:28.58 | Neffi | "within the same function" ok. I'll just close this now. |
| 02:29.43 | Trela | Neffi: Have fun. https://github.com/Alexia/DynamicPageList/blob/e908a6328c96e9324ada527a93d09b65ff0d0c23/DPLMain.php |
| 02:29.55 | kd3 | oh god DPL |
| 02:30.08 | Trela | I got assigned to rewrite DPL. |
| 02:30.26 | kd3 | give me an address, I'll ship you some strong alcohol |
| 02:30.41 | Neffi | "<?php" strike 3. I'm not looking at this |
| 02:30.43 | Trela | I have a half empty bottle of Bacardi 151. |
| 02:31.02 | kd3 | I was thinking straight everclear or something. kill enough brain cells that it's not a big deal |
| 02:31.33 | Trela | It took eight hours of just code clean up without restructuring to start making sense of it. |
| 02:31.38 | Neffi | um. wow. wtf. you are not kidding. a 3500 line function |
| 02:31.53 | Trela | There is a 1,000+ line switch statement in there. |
| 02:31.57 | Neffi | you can make sense of this mess in only 8 hours? I admire you |
| 02:32.30 | Trela | I am something like 50% done with it. There is actually a classes folder now. https://github.com/Alexia/DynamicPageList |
| 02:34.08 | Trela | kd3: I thought Wowpedia used DPL. Guess not. |
| 02:34.55 | kd3 | we used it on wikia way back when for a while, and then near immediately broke a server, so it got taken away |
| 02:35.15 | kd3 | the only dplish thing we still use is dplforum |
| 02:35.43 | Trela | I fixed about three SQL exploits so far. |
| 02:35.56 | Trela | I mean nuke your database exploits. |
| 02:43.14 | Trela | I have finally figured out what the $bReset boolean array is for. $bReset[0] = true, $bReset[1] = false means to literally run different pieces of code with numbered functions at the end of processing. |
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| 03:42.03 | DJJeff | blasted lands pumpkin where is it? |
| 03:43.33 | DJJeff | it says its in the hold but can not find it because of the 6.0 patch |
| 03:43.54 | Brulath | hey, so unitguid is returning Creature-0-1133-0-116-97-000042FD23 for mobs and Player-1133-082A9D94 for myself. Can't find anything documenting what the bits are. I mean, 97 is the NPC id (Riverpaw Runt), but I'm curious about the other pieces. |
| 03:46.10 | Neffi | Brulath: see this http://wowpedia.org/GUID#Patch_changes |
| 03:47.22 | Brulath | ahh right, thanks |
| 03:47.37 | Neffi | also the API pages need to be updated on both wowpedia and wowprogramming, if anyone knows the correct info |
| 03:47.59 | Neffi | I dont have the client installed, so I can't be of much help atm |
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| 03:49.45 | Brulath | bit awkward having it return a hyphen-separated string rather than a table |
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| 04:16.54 | Brulath | updated the wowpedia page with the equiv of local type, zero, server_id, instance_id, zone_uid, npc_id, spawn_uid = strsplit("-",UnitGUID("target")); |
| 04:17.14 | Brulath | am kinda curious to know if there's a way to get zone ids, now that I've seen that line |
| 04:18.17 | Brulath | I'm wondering whether zone_uid is a cross-realm zone id or just the zone's id |
| 04:19.14 | Brulath | being able to acquire the zone and subzone as unique numbers instead of localised names would be handy |
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| 04:24.37 | Brulath | I'd written an addon previously (crashcourse) to spam some basic instructions out in LFR. Basically detect NPC id and offer instructions if it linked up with some advice, falling back to subzone name or npc /yell text if mouseover/target was impractical. Now that the dungeon journal includes that kind of text on the first page I figured I'd just delete all the advice I wrote and modify the |
| 04:24.38 | Brulath | mod to tell people to read that instead. since the encounter journal is localised, it'd be handy to be able to trigger some based on subzone changes as numbers, without requiring localised zone names |
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| 05:12.04 | Ironii | Brulath zone_uid is uid for the mob, not zone id ? ;P |
| 05:14.00 | Torhal | DJJeff: Blizzard changed the concept of their cache with CASC, which was the trick used. |
| 05:14.17 | Torhal | If the NPC wasn't in cache, then suddenly was, BOOM - you found one. |
| 05:14.24 | Torhal | Now they're just there all the time. |
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| 05:31.16 | DJJeff | vlaD, candy buckit addon is missing mulgore bloodhoof village |
| 05:31.48 | DJJeff | ohhhhhh |
| 05:31.58 | DJJeff | Torhal, I wonder why blizzard changed that |
| 05:32.23 | Torhal | DJJeff: Likely because they could with the CASC format; the cache was no longer necessary. |
| 05:33.19 | Neffi | caches Torhal |
| 05:33.50 | DJJeff | actually ignore my bloodhoof village comment I already got the bucket and forgot |
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| 05:48.23 | Brulath | heh can make it to any page on curseforge except the login one -_- |
| 05:49.19 | Kemayo | It looks somewhat like curse's auth is down. Which annoyingly stops me pushing changes. |
| 05:49.40 | Kaelten | Kemayo: kinda |
| 05:49.43 | Brulath | svn pushes seemed to work for me, just can't get in to change the page text |
| 05:49.46 | Kaelten | we're experiencing some network wide network issues |
| 05:50.01 | Kaelten | Working with our datacenter to resolve the issues. |
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| 05:58.32 | DJJeff | kun lai summit east wind rest candy bukkit requires that you quest to get it? |
| 05:58.53 | DJJeff | also still did not find the candy bukkit for blasted lands |
| 06:17.44 | Brulath | suppose blasted lands is probably phased? |
| 06:18.02 | Brulath | unless they permanently altered it, seems improbable. guess the bucket's just out of phase |
| 06:18.49 | Gethe | yeah, but there's an NPC at the border of the swamps that can get you to old blasted lands |
| 06:19.11 | Brulath | handy |
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| 06:37.41 | Kaelten | hey everyone I think we're out of the woods, Anyone else seeing any issues reaching a Curse site? |
| 06:49.09 | ccox | no problems with curse or curseforge |
| 06:49.17 | Kaelten | thanks ccox |
| 06:49.36 | Kaelten | a router upgrade gone bad |
| 06:50.04 | ccox | ouch |
| 07:09.12 | DJJeff | raidbuffstatus is not letting me clean up stink bombs :( |
| 07:09.13 | DJJeff | https://bpaste.net/show/ded839988432 |
| 07:09.20 | DJJeff | I ish... very very upset |
| 07:13.09 | DJJeff | an addon is also preventing me from viewing my quest log grrrrrrrr |
| 07:14.01 | VIad | :p |
| 07:14.14 | VIad | btw blizz decided to use CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM for the hallows end dailies |
| 07:14.21 | VIad | means you dont see any messages in the loot related chat |
| 07:14.34 | VIad | uses globals starting with ERR_QUEST_REWARD_ to format |
| 07:14.38 | VIad | "Received item: %s." |
| 07:14.40 | VIad | e.g. |
| 07:14.46 | VIad | a mess if you ask me |
| 07:15.09 | DJJeff | Gethe any idea what npc it is? on wowhead? |
| 07:15.42 | DJJeff | VIad... blizzard IS a mess lol |
| 07:16.04 | Gethe | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=88206 |
| 07:21.49 | DJJeff | hrmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 07:21.57 | DJJeff | so after I disabled raidbuffstatus |
| 07:22.03 | DJJeff | my quest log started working again |
| 07:22.11 | DJJeff | who woulda thunk it |
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| 08:19.48 | DJJeff | broker cpu battlegrounds lua error? |
| 08:19.49 | DJJeff | https://bpaste.net/show/c1a27c056b61 |
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| 08:56.39 | VIad | I just got disconnected during hallows end event boss. |
| 08:56.42 | VIad | we all did actually |
| 08:56.53 | VIad | when we got back in - it was level 30 version of the dungeon :P |
| 08:57.09 | VIad | everyone left except me - so when I killed whitemane I got the bag from the horseman :P |
| 08:58.47 | Fisker | reported for hax VIad |
| 08:58.50 | VIad | :p |
| 09:01.13 | Mr_Rabies | mine was the lv90 version of the regular dungeon today |
| 09:01.18 | Mr_Rabies | requeued, and it was okay |
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| 11:54.39 | zenzelezz | today turned out to be another one of those Sundays where I get up at 11, and at 14 I remember "I haven't eaten yet" |
| 11:54.59 | zenzelezz | but I don't particularly feel like making food |
| 11:55.02 | nevcairiel | that happens to me every day |
| 11:56.58 | zenzelezz | well yeah, but usually I get up at 7 |
| 11:57.23 | nevcairiel | usually at 8, and 12 i notice i havent had any food |
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| 12:20.40 | Semlar | nevcairiel: did you ever get the increased cap on lfg results |
| 12:21.33 | Semlar | you were saying it was still only returning 25 for you yesterday |
| 12:23.46 | nevcairiel | didnt check again after |
| 12:23.51 | nevcairiel | can check later, shower time now |
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| 13:03.45 | Constie | Is there an easy way to desaturate all UI elements? |
| 13:06.58 | Semlar | loop over every texture in the interface and desaturate it? |
| 13:08.31 | Semlar | you can use EnumerateFrames() and GetRegions() and GetObjectType() |
| 13:09.37 | Constie | That sounds reasonable! |
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| 14:20.52 | nevcairiel | Semlar: limit still coming up as 25 here |
| 14:21.12 | Semlar | interesting |
| 14:22.25 | Constie | This is why we can't have nice things, WYSIWYG editors. http://i.imgur.com/8eyd9aT.png |
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| 14:37.38 | Teazle | question: i wish to update several frames individualy (im tihnking OnUpdate) - should i have one big OnUpdate event, or can i have one per frame? what would be wisest? |
| 14:42.34 | Semlar | one OnUpdate function |
| 14:43.15 | Semlar | every function call adds overhead |
| 14:43.26 | Teazle | allright, good, then i was thinking right. |
| 14:44.16 | Semlar | unless it's unmanageable and then you can split it up to make it more maintainable |
| 14:44.52 | nevcairiel | if you have one OnUpdate and then dispatch calls to every individual frame, you might as well give every frame its own OnUpdate, same overhead really |
| 14:45.04 | nevcairiel | lua call vs c call |
| 14:45.04 | Teazle | atm its 9 frames... |
| 14:47.44 | Teazle | thinking an onupdate might mess with the framerate. atleast one frame with print() so far kinda does.. |
| 14:47.57 | nevcairiel | printing is kinda expensive |
| 14:48.08 | Semlar | well i guess if every frame is updated completely independently it wouldn't matter |
| 14:49.01 | Semlar | but if you're doing the same api call to get the same information it wouldn't make sense to put it in multiple onupdate handlers |
| 14:49.35 | Teazle | how can i distinguish them then in the onupdate? i get a table: value but how do i "reverse" that? |
| 14:49.55 | nevcairiel | that table is your frame |
| 14:50.19 | Teazle | so just if self == <my normal variable for it> ? |
| 14:50.54 | jleclanche | <nevcairiel> that table is your frame <- funny how out of context that is a very, very weird thing to be said to. |
| 14:50.59 | Semlar | well self would be the frame OnUpdate is executing on so that wouldn't really make sense |
| 14:52.18 | Semlar | what are you doing on update |
| 14:52.23 | Teazle | if the frames react to different htings - i dont want them to update together, wouldndt i then frame:Setscript() frame1:setscript() to the same handler and then try to distinguish them? |
| 14:52.51 | Teazle | the thought is to change a Text's Alpha to "fade out", or just remove it after X sec |
| 14:53.44 | Semlar | what do you mean you don't want them to update together, you're running the script every frame |
| 14:55.31 | Kemayo | Plus we have the amusing linguistic overhead here of calling stuff per-frame per-frame. :) |
| 14:55.34 | Teazle | rephrase: i add text to each frame depending on what for ex. UNIT_COMBAT says the unitID is. so the text in frame1 isnt added at the same time as frame2, so i want them to "go away" at diffrent times |
| 14:56.49 | Teazle | so if i have them in the same onupdate handler, i need to know which frame is calling that handler to not do.. to much |
| 14:56.56 | Teazle | i feel im explaining myself quite poorly |
| 14:57.40 | Semlar | you could store the last update time on the frame like frame.lastUpdate = GetTime() and then fade it when a certain amount of time has elapsed |
| 14:59.17 | Semlar | self.lastUpdate in the update handler |
| 14:59.29 | Teazle | sweet. |
| 14:59.34 | Teazle | thank you! |
| 15:00.10 | Semlar | or maybe store it some other way so you don't have to call GetTime() on every separate update handler, just subtract the elapsed time from it or something |
| 15:01.03 | Teazle | allright |
| 15:01.24 | Semlar | like you could store it as frame.updateIn = 10 for example |
| 15:01.39 | Semlar | and then OnUpdate subtract "elapsed" from that value |
| 15:01.43 | Semlar | until it gets to 0 |
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| 15:03.26 | Semlar | if this is to fade out one particular line of text after a while you could just be using message frames because they can do this automatically |
| 15:03.57 | Semlar | like the chat frame |
| 15:04.54 | Teazle | oh, well then thats certainly better. atm ive just created a Frame, with CreateFontString() which is what i want to fade out |
| 15:05.54 | Semlar | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/MessageFrame |
| 15:06.10 | Semlar | if you want to be fading out lines based on when they were added |
| 15:06.32 | Semlar | if you want to fade out the entire frame based on when the last message was added that's different |
| 15:06.39 | Teazle | the text i want to fade out is replaced on an event though, and then should recieve a new time to go away |
| 15:08.04 | Semlar | you could still probably use a message frame limited to like one line of text but i would just do it onupdate |
| 15:09.39 | Semlar | like you could just clear the message frame and add your new message |
| 15:10.43 | Semlar | there are also alpha animations, you don't really need to manually update things |
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| 15:12.28 | Semlar | you can attach an alpha animation to a font string, set the duration and call Play() when you want it to start |
| 15:13.42 | mikma | what's the limit for levels that can be higher and player can see them? |
| 15:13.52 | Semlar | 10? |
| 15:14.13 | Kesava | (is there a max level global?) |
| 15:14.24 | Kesava | because i mean changing this number every 3 years get's really tiring |
| 15:14.52 | Semlar | i think 10 or more levels above you is a ? |
| 15:15.17 | mikma | yeah that's what i had in my mind too, just needed a second "guess" |
| 15:15.25 | foxlit | $ grep 100 wowxml6 | grep LEVEL |
| 15:15.35 | Constie | I'm not sure if it's 10 or 11 above that becomes ??. |
| 15:15.36 | foxlit | wowxml6/Constants.lua:MAX_PLAYER_LEVEL_TABLE[EXPANSION_LEVEL_WARLORDS_OF_DRAENOR] = 100; |
| 15:15.47 | Kesava | oh oh yes |
| 15:15.50 | Kesava | just found that, ty |
| 15:15.52 | Semlar | Skull (AKA "Level ??") is 10 or more levels higher (can also refer to a boss) |
| 15:16.21 | Teazle | Semlar soooo with my current strategy of having an CreateFontString() - if i then set an alpha animation to the string - if i add a message from an event, and then issue Play() i would do what iwanted without an onupdate? |
| 15:16.24 | Constie | Now I'm sure. |
| 15:17.05 | Semlar | Teazle: probably, you can add a start delay to the animation too if you want |
| 15:17.11 | Constie | And there's also GetMaxPlayerLevel(). |
| 15:17.23 | Teazle | coolio. thank you so much! |
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| 15:19.31 | Kesava | also just to correct myself: gets* |
| 15:19.55 | Semlar | Teazle: http://pastebin.com/nzbKzgik it's like this |
| 15:21.18 | mikma | constie: i trust in MAX_PLAYER_LEVEL_TABLE[GetAccountExpansionLevel()] |
| 15:23.25 | Teazle | oh cool, i needed the animation group too. thanks |
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| 15:28.51 | Semlar | you'll probably want to make sure it keeps its final alpha after the animation is complete and reset the alpha back to 1 when you set the text again |
| 15:28.57 | Semlar | and you can add a start delay |
| 15:29.09 | Semlar | so it won't start fading until a certain amount of time has passed |
| 15:41.40 | Teazle | okay, reset alpha, sounds logical. just gotta find out how to make the animationgroups names "smart" so i can call them easily... atm im using unitID as the name for my FontString |
| 15:44.03 | Jamash1 | does the file info on WoWI mean all downloads of the addon, or just downloads of the latest file? |
| 15:44.39 | Semlar | Teazle: you can just do like fontstring.animationGroup = fontstring:CreateAnimationGroup() |
| 15:45.00 | Semlar | or fontstring.fade = fontstring:CreateAnimationGroup() |
| 15:45.53 | Teazle | ah, .<this> is a sub-var (or what u wanna call it)? |
| 15:46.11 | Semlar | well it's technically a key in the table |
| 15:46.34 | Semlar | same as doing fontstring['fade'] |
| 15:46.35 | Teazle | local x is actually x[] and x.key is x[key] ? |
| 15:47.13 | mikma | no, local x is x and local x = {} is x[] |
| 15:47.38 | Semlar | regions and frames are all tables |
| 15:48.30 | mikma | local x = CreateFrame("Frame") and local x = {} are the same thing basicly |
| 15:50.32 | Semlar | anyway, adding it as a key means you don't have to come up with separate variables for each font string |
| 15:51.16 | Teazle | unitIDs["target"].animationGroup = unitIDs["target"]:CreateAnimationGroup() and unitIDs["target"].Alpha = unitIDs["target"].animationGroup:CreateAnimation('Alpha') |
| 15:51.23 | Teazle | tihs feels kinda nested :) |
| 15:52.20 | Semlar | local target = unitIDs['target'] |
| 15:52.43 | Semlar | target.animationGroup = target:CreateAnimationGroup() if that helps |
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| 15:54.24 | Semlar | or you can create your animation group and alpha as local variables and add them to the frame afterward |
| 15:54.49 | Semlar | you only really need to make a reference to alpha if you're going to change something about the animation |
| 15:56.40 | Teazle | my local target is a fontstring already, made with local unitIDs = { target = frame1:CreateFontString() } thats why i thought of using unitIDs["target"].anim |
| 15:59.11 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/EKWTZ5sZ |
| 16:01.48 | Semlar | or http://pastebin.com/a5DhFjN4 |
| 16:02.20 | Teazle | seems to be working, probably needlessly complicated ofc. can i react on animation complete? atm if it plays to finish, it resets again and id like the text to be "gone" after animation completes |
| 16:03.00 | Semlar | there's an AnimationGroup:SetToFinalAlpha() method but i don't know if it works |
| 16:03.22 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure it's supposed to keep the alpha it finishes on |
| 16:04.36 | Semlar | but otherwise you can just do AnimationGroup:SetScript('OnFinished', function(self, forced) self:GetParent():SetAlpha(0) end) or something |
| 16:05.07 | Teazle | ive done setchange, setduration and setfromalpha - after the animation completes, it returns to alpha 1 |
| 16:05.21 | Teazle | gonna add settoalpha and see what happens |
| 16:05.33 | Semlar | you tried animationGroup:SetToFinalAlpha(true)? |
| 16:07.11 | Teazle | SetToFinalAlpha worked like a charm! |
| 16:07.18 | Teazle | thank you, again :) |
| 16:08.33 | Semlar | From and To instead of SetChange might let you avoid setting the alpha back to 1 before you start playing |
| 16:08.47 | Semlar | they're new methods and i haven't used them before |
| 16:08.54 | Semlar | presumably they set the start and end alphas |
| 16:09.23 | Semlar | but i'm not sure if it would work if you added a start delay to the animation |
| 16:18.53 | Teazle | without settofinalalpha the alpha returns to 1 after playing, with it, i do not reset alpha when the new animation starts and it works fine |
| 16:19.34 | Semlar | it goes back to its original alpha when you start playing it? |
| 16:20.17 | nevcairiel | animations are entirely separate from the actual frame properties, you need such methods to actually transfer the value from the animation to the final frme |
| 16:20.27 | nevcairiel | frame* |
| 16:20.37 | Semlar | but SetToFinalAlpha sets the actual frame's alpha to the final result |
| 16:21.01 | nevcairiel | isnt that what you want |
| 16:21.19 | Semlar | yes, but now if the alpha is 0, when you Play the animation again you'd expect it to start from 0 |
| 16:21.19 | nevcairiel | you animated to some alpha for a smooth fade out, and afterwards you presumably want to stay at that alpha |
| 16:21.38 | nevcairiel | that depends how your animation is seutp |
| 16:22.05 | foxlit | which is fine. |
| 16:22.18 | nevcairiel | animations are a bit bolted on, have to handle them with care |
| 16:23.01 | foxlit | (or does it do something weird like "oh hey, you want to decrease it below zero, let me just wrap around to 1?") |
| 16:24.18 | Teazle | i set final alpha to 0, if i set a new string and Play() it starts from 1 |
| 16:24.28 | Semlar | yeah, but are you using SetChange still? |
| 16:24.38 | Semlar | or did you change it to the other methods |
| 16:25.16 | Teazle | sorry, i did miss my other: i am still using setfrom and setto alpha, but without setfinal alpha my animation returns to 1 WITHOUT me setting a new string |
| 16:25.23 | Semlar | okay |
| 16:26.14 | Semlar | i thought you were still using SetChange(-1) which i would not have expected to go back to the original alpha with |
| 16:26.58 | Teazle | it went away, im not sure how long ago, i think it went away when i started using setto and setfrom :) |
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| 16:27.39 | Teazle | well, my code looks snot, but it appears to work |
| 16:29.52 | Teazle | maaybe i am lying, hold on :| (about alpha).. |
| 16:30.50 | Teazle | i was lying, it doesnt start from 1, tested with more eventtriggers and it adds text mid-play so i get like 50% alpha, 40% alpha etc |
| 16:31.49 | Semlar | you may need to stop the animation when you add new next |
| 16:31.51 | Semlar | text |
| 16:34.05 | Teazle | yup, that did it |
| 16:40.25 | Teazle | thanks yet again good Semlar! |
| 16:40.35 | Semlar | sure |
| 16:46.38 | foxlit | http://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/#h:72a4291256bd6b6824a65dd393d56b7e-warn << parse errors. |
| 16:47.22 | foxlit | If you could, please throw some invalid code at it; I need feedback as to whether these are reasonable. |
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| 17:04.08 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:04.56 | Xinhuan | so an addon broke and suddenly 20 posts with various fixes and updates from people and my email gets flooded |
| 17:04.57 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 17:14.39 | mikma | that's what it takes to be popular |
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| 17:46.53 | kd3 | who's poking collectinator right now? got a bug report for em |
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| 17:53.28 | nevcairiel | Ressy mostly i think |
| 17:54.58 | smcn | anyone know of a raid buff calculator thing like http://raidcomp.mmo-champion.com/ that is updated for 6.0? |
| 17:55.16 | Ressy | kd3: Gimme |
| 18:00.58 | Gnarfoz | ~poke tekkub |
| 18:00.58 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind tekkub, pokes tekkub repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 18:08.47 | kd3 | http://dpaste.com/2HE8XYE |
| 18:08.51 | kd3 | Ressy: ^ |
| 18:10.02 | kd3 | also, this one for mounts: http://dpaste.com/0XHAPW8, and I don't see the window pop up when hitting scan on the pets tab |
| 18:10.18 | mikma | semlar: i find it rather interesting that there's quite alot of player GUID's out there that don't have any info |
| 18:11.00 | Semlar | probably not in range |
| 18:11.18 | mikma | but combat log catches lots of their actions |
| 18:11.49 | Semlar | combat log doesn't necessarily mean you can even see the unit |
| 18:12.30 | nevcairiel | yeah combatlog is on another mechanic |
| 18:12.38 | mikma | well anyway, i added a nil check for them and no errors again |
| 18:12.49 | Semlar | also, i don't know how you're checking that the tooltip is empty |
| 18:13.14 | Semlar | are you actually checking that the first line is blank? |
| 18:13.16 | mikma | semlar: first i'm checking do they have a level |
| 18:13.29 | mikma | if they don't, then the tooltipchecking will be passed |
| 18:13.42 | Semlar | well that could just mean your level check is flawed |
| 18:13.48 | Semlar | it doesn't mean the tooltip is empty |
| 18:14.39 | Ressy | uh.. |
| 18:14.44 | Ressy | window is popping up with those? |
| 18:14.45 | Semlar | you should at least check if the first line is there if that occurs and output that |
| 18:14.45 | mikma | i'm checking two lines, 2 and 3 to match level. if neither is found, nothing will be done |
| 18:14.50 | Ressy | kd3? |
| 18:15.11 | kd3 | I get those errors when I hit scan on the toy and mount windows |
| 18:15.28 | mikma | semlar: this is nasty but seems to work: http://hastebin.com/efagifosoz.lua |
| 18:15.29 | Ressy | k. gimme a min |
| 18:15.31 | kd3 | using collectinator 2.0.11-47-gc8a7be5 |
| 18:15.32 | Semlar | i've never failed to construct a tooltip for a unit that i've detected in the combat log |
| 18:15.47 | Semlar | that doesn't mean it's impossible |
| 18:16.19 | Semlar | well you're just exiting if you can't match the level line |
| 18:16.28 | mikma | yeah |
| 18:16.41 | Semlar | that could just mean your assumption about what's in the tooltip is wrong |
| 18:17.04 | mikma | yeah, and the tooltip can be empty, like you said |
| 18:17.19 | Xuerian | foxlit: What's that o_O |
| 18:17.29 | Semlar | so if your checks fail you need to add an else that literally just outputs the entire tooltip |
| 18:17.52 | mikma | semlar: the last lines |
| 18:17.52 | Semlar | that's the only way you're going to know what's going on |
| 18:18.13 | Semlar | don't do that |
| 18:18.22 | mikma | semlar: if the two lines fail, the tooltip is printed in bottomright of the ui with close button :P |
| 18:18.39 | mikma | (that's not gonna be left in the 'release') |
| 18:19.19 | mikma | local line1 = TestTooltipTextLeft1:GetText() |
| 18:19.20 | mikma | if not line1 or line1 == nil then return end |
| 18:19.23 | mikma | will this do? :P |
| 18:19.39 | zenzelezz | "More Americans have been Batman than gotten Ebola" |
| 18:19.54 | Semlar | no you would want if not line1 or line1 == '' |
| 18:20.14 | mikma | are you sure it's '' and not nil? |
| 18:20.22 | mikma | well, most likely you are. silly me |
| 18:20.38 | mikma | i'll add them all, what the heck |
| 18:20.40 | Semlar | .. "not line1" would be checking if it's nil |
| 18:21.09 | Ressy | kd3: Pushing now |
| 18:21.48 | Ressy | done |
| 18:22.14 | jnwhiteh | Semlar: DJJeff |
| 18:22.18 | jnwhiteh | Clique is highest priority to fix |
| 18:22.22 | jnwhiteh | then I'll move to TomTom |
| 18:22.28 | jnwhiteh | then LH, PerfectRaid, etc. |
| 18:22.34 | Semlar | fixes jnwhiteh |
| 18:23.02 | Neffi | no Semlar, that's not ok |
| 18:23.09 | Semlar | fixes neffi |
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| 18:23.29 | mikma | but doesn't Clique already work |
| 18:23.33 | mikma | atleast i'm using it |
| 18:23.46 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 18:23.49 | jnwhiteh | some people are reporting issue |
| 18:23.52 | jnwhiteh | but I don't know what.. |
| 18:24.06 | mikma | "hey man, there's an issue with clique. fix it." |
| 18:27.56 | Fisker | Hey jnwhiteh |
| 18:28.13 | jnwhiteh | are people still using grid, not grid2? |
| 18:28.27 | smcn | some probably are |
| 18:28.51 | Shirik | your problem is that you expect users to be intelligent |
| 18:28.53 | Fisker | Grid is like the most Popular addon |
| 18:31.54 | mikma | shirik: ouch ;D |
| 18:34.07 | Fisker | Hey Shirik |
| 18:34.14 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 18:34.18 | Fisker | :) |
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| 18:39.20 | jnwhiteh | Why on earth is Phanx setting the type2 attribute explicitly to nil |
| 18:50.05 | zenzelezz | I have no idea, but what is the default? |
| 18:59.23 | jnwhiteh | its not set, which is different than it being set to nil |
| 19:02.09 | zenzelezz | I see |
| 19:10.05 | relaxok | so i can't figure out where PVPReadyDialog gets hidden |
| 19:10.09 | relaxok | since its shown by default |
| 19:10.19 | relaxok | so it is showing when i start up =p |
| 19:10.32 | relaxok | it only gets hidden in code run from handling UPDATE_BATTLEFIELD_STATUS event |
| 19:10.39 | relaxok | but that event isnt triggered in game on login |
| 19:13.21 | Semlar | jnwhiteh: setting an attribute to nil doesn't unset the attribute? |
| 19:13.37 | jnwhiteh | Semlar: is that a question? |
| 19:13.43 | Semlar | yes |
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| 19:30.05 | Simca | I don't suppose anyone here has a brilliant solution to the following problem: |
| 19:30.35 | Simca | In MoP, Safari Hat was an equipment item that you wore to get an effect. My addon equipped your regular hat or safari hat depending on location, target, and other factors. |
| 19:31.17 | Simca | In WoD, the Safari Hat item is not equippable and requires a /use Safari Hat /cast Safari Hat /click Safari Hat or similar command |
| 19:31.38 | Simca | any way to have the addon still use the hat? |
| 19:31.53 | Semlar | possibly |
| 19:32.03 | Semlar | there's an api command for "using" an item in your inventory |
| 19:32.03 | foxlit | Ask the user to use the hat. |
| 19:32.16 | Simca | it seems to do nothing, semlar |
| 19:32.17 | Semlar | and it's only semi-protected |
| 19:32.22 | Semlar | yeah, that's what i figured |
| 19:32.25 | Semlar | it's mostly just for containers |
| 19:33.07 | jnwhiteh | tough to update my addons when the servers won't stay up |
| 19:33.09 | Simca | i tried a secure button with a macrotext to /use Safari Hat, but when the addon clicks the button, it errors |
| 19:33.24 | jnwhiteh | Semlar: setting it to nil clears the attribute, so when clique sets it as it does, grid is clearing it |
| 19:33.26 | Simca | might work if the user was directly responsible for the click on the button |
| 19:33.49 | Semlar | UseContainerItem doesn't work? |
| 19:33.50 | foxlit | I basically do that, Simca. |
| 19:34.32 | foxlit | There's a secure button overlaid on the "yes, I want to fight." button. |
| 19:34.41 | Simca | Semlar: 'Prat-3.0 has been blocked from an action only available to the Blizzard UI.' |
| 19:34.47 | Simca | i'll try without it, lol. |
| 19:35.18 | Simca | That's pretty smart foxlit |
| 19:35.21 | Simca | Wouldn't work in the wild |
| 19:35.32 | foxlit | Screw the wild. |
| 19:35.34 | Simca | but it would be a partial solution |
| 19:36.20 | foxlit | (It's never worked in the wild for me, so I find letting the player manage that is reasonable) |
| 19:36.50 | Simca | I don't suppose hooksecurefunc on something like InteractUint would serve as a substitute? |
| 19:36.51 | Simca | Unit* |
| 19:36.55 | foxlit | No |
| 19:37.58 | Simca | 'A macro script has blocked from an action' blah blah when Prat is disabled, so no luck for UseContainerItem |
| 19:38.40 | Semlar | it's somewhat annoying you can't use that out of combat |
| 19:43.03 | Simca | i'm not even in combat |
| 19:43.15 | Simca | safari hat just rejects all attempts at use |
| 19:43.39 | Semlar | you won't be able to automate it without a hardware event |
| 19:43.53 | nevcairiel | you wont be able to automate it without secure code |
| 19:44.15 | Simca | it's so lame because in early beta, it was great |
| 19:44.38 | Simca | it was a Toy item, so you didn't need it in your inventory, and you didn't need a copy on every toon (blizzard mails you a new one for every toon still) |
| 19:44.46 | Simca | but then they were like TOYS CANT BE USEFUL |
| 19:45.53 | Semlar | like foxlit said, i would just macrotext it into something else the user is going to be clicking on anyway |
| 19:46.28 | foxlit | Except there's nothing convenient for wild fights. |
| 19:46.32 | Simca | ^ |
| 19:46.53 | Simca | I guess I could macro it into the first action of the fight. it wouldn't work for the current fight, but it would work for the next one |
| 19:47.08 | Semlar | you could detect hovering over a unit and put a button under the cursor if you didn't have the buff |
| 19:47.15 | Semlar | that might be annoying though |
| 19:48.44 | Simca | yeah at that point i'd probably just make it a huge button with a picture of a hat that showed up when you targeted a battle pet or tamer or entered a pet battle without a hat |
| 19:49.09 | Simca | at least then it would be more of a reminder and less of a harassment |
| 19:51.08 | foxlit | Binding + reminder in tooltip would probably be enough. |
| 19:51.40 | Simca | reminder in tooltip is another good idea |
| 19:52.31 | foxlit | But honestly, the feature doesn't add much value - the new hat much easier for humans to use than for addons in that context. |
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| 19:52.45 | foxlit | ^s |
| 19:53.15 | foxlit | ^is ; this input method is screwy. |
| 20:11.46 | VIad | did you know you can mouse wheel zoom the world map now? |
| 20:11.52 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 20:11.57 | nevcairiel | but then i write a map addon |
| 20:12.37 | VIad | I think it was nice! |
| 20:12.45 | VIad | didn't know about it until now by accident :p |
| 20:18.04 | jleclanche | elwynn is darker than duskwood |
| 20:18.05 | jleclanche | idiots. |
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| 20:18.39 | jleclanche | ~pinch Tuller |
| 20:18.39 | purl | ACTION scuttles after Tuller and pinches him vigorously |
| 20:18.47 | Tuller | hello |
| 20:19.14 | jleclanche | Tuller: you planning to add blizzard's bag sorting preferences to bagnon as well? |
| 20:19.41 | Tuller | I don't actually maintain Bagnon (jaliborc does now) |
| 20:19.56 | jleclanche | oh |
| 20:20.22 | jleclanche | thats another channel, effort |
| 20:22.00 | jleclanche | man was 6.x a serious serverside performance hit or is blizzard still getting ddos'd? |
| 20:22.23 | nevcairiel | probably a combination of everything |
| 20:22.38 | Alram | i bet they were like "oh god not many players merge all the servers" |
| 20:22.39 | karl_w_w | well i finally played through spec ops: the line |
| 20:22.41 | Alram | and now everyone is coming back |
| 20:22.41 | Semlar | more players |
| 20:22.46 | karl_w_w | I don't get what all the fuss is about |
| 20:22.48 | nevcairiel | returning players, increased server load due to the reacting time change, maybe ddos |
| 20:23.18 | nevcairiel | reaction* |
| 20:23.49 | jleclanche | I'm always very curious to know whether blizzard gets into those massive serverside performance issues, like bugs affecting performance in a completely unplanned way |
| 20:23.57 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: you mean Apocalypse Now: The Game? |
| 20:23.59 | jleclanche | they are a lot less easy to "feel" from the pov of a player |
| 20:24.37 | nevcairiel | my server seems to run fine in any case |
| 20:24.52 | Semlar | i haven't noticed any problems |
| 20:24.59 | jleclanche | we have lagspikes every few minutes here, and the world server goes down regularly |
| 20:25.02 | karl_w_w | i think the story was written for people who dont play games for the story |
| 20:25.13 | jleclanche | earlier the world server was down for five hours |
| 20:25.17 | Semlar | except the queue, my server was locked because of how many people were trying to log in a few times |
| 20:25.18 | nevcairiel | jleclanche: giant server? |
| 20:25.29 | jleclanche | not really. bloodhoof+khadgar |
| 20:26.28 | nevcairiel | we occasionally get a bit of hanging in loading screens, but thats really all problems we notice |
| 20:27.31 | foxlit | Xuerian: what is what, anyhow? |
| 20:27.42 | nevcairiel | and speaking of the reaction time change, you really do notice the improved server responsiveness |
| 20:27.57 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: what is that? |
| 20:28.39 | nevcairiel | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/13087818929?page=6#114 |
| 20:29.52 | jleclanche | neaaaaaat |
| 20:30.40 | jleclanche | also um |
| 20:30.46 | jleclanche | is Surwich gone or is my server bugged? |
| 20:31.47 | smcn | don't you need to do a questline |
| 20:32.15 | nevcairiel | the population left when the iron horde invaded, leaving abandoned houses |
| 20:32.17 | jleclanche | yeah ive done it |
| 20:32.39 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: seriously or? |
| 20:33.01 | nevcairiel | would you want to live close to the front line of an enemy incursion? |
| 20:33.20 | jleclanche | no but i'd want to fix the fucking flight paths on the map |
| 20:33.22 | jleclanche | damn it blizzard |
| 20:33.44 | nevcairiel | you can switch blasted lands to the old map by use of an npc at the zones entrance and go there and do the quests if you must |
| 20:33.54 | jleclanche | yahah |
| 20:34.17 | jleclanche | time travel. saving people time since doctor who invented it |
| 20:40.59 | Semlar | wait what |
| 20:41.28 | Semlar | does it switch to the map with overlays? |
| 20:42.21 | Semlar | no, it can't because those textures are gone |
| 20:42.23 | Simca | world server has gone down a few times today here too |
| 20:42.24 | Simca | but no laga |
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| 20:51.23 | Mr_Rabies | i think my favorite thing to do this time of year |
| 20:51.33 | Mr_Rabies | is when i join a pug and they've clearly wiped on a boss a ton of times |
| 20:51.43 | Mr_Rabies | to ask "who left all these skeletons laying around" |
| 20:56.17 | foxlit | hm, and now I find myself wanting exceptions in addition to errors in Lua. |
| 20:56.55 | foxlit | or, really, just a way to pass more than an error message through pcall. |
| 20:57.42 | Simca | i'm sure the original authors would argue that's outside the scope of the language and that there are many other languages |
| 20:58.54 | foxlit | "Despite its name, the error message does not have to be a string. Any Lua value that you pass to error will be returned by pcall:" |
| 20:58.59 | foxlit | I should clearly google things. |
| 21:11.08 | VIad | is tomtom dead? |
| 21:11.27 | VIad | updated 2013 but doubt it works fine with astrolabe outdated |
| 21:11.45 | zenzelezz | man; I want to support the Youtubers I like, but I simply cannot stand hitting "Like" on a video where they ask you to do it |
| 21:12.20 | Semlar | tomtom isn't dead and astrolabe isn't outdated |
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| 21:13.19 | Semlar | he'll update it when he gets around to it |
| 21:14.15 | VIad | I mean't the bundled astrolabe is outdated :p |
| 21:14.49 | VIad | tomtom not updated for a year, though not surprising since no major patches in that time ;p |
| 21:17.53 | Elmoe | is anyone else getting tickets that toons with non-ascii characters in their name can't save addon settings on Mac OS X clients after the patch? |
| 21:18.12 | Elmoe | saved variables at the character level get written to disk properly but are not read on login/reload |
| 21:18.29 | Elmoe | account level saved variables are both read and write properly |
| 21:19.51 | Simca | yes |
| 21:20.06 | Simca | the question is so popular that DBM includes a message at every login about it now |
| 21:20.10 | Simca | lol |
| 21:21.55 | Simca | every login per character* i guess |
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| 21:50.09 | MiRai | If I'm trying to resuscitate some older addons that use Ace3, should be I be grabbing the newest version and dropping it into the Libs folder of these non-functioning addons? |
| 21:50.45 | kd3 | that's a good place to start |
| 21:50.52 | MiRai | Alright, thanks. |
| 21:50.59 | Simca | if you're downloading from curse.com or curseforge.com and the addon author is reasonable, they will have 'no-lib' versions availalbe |
| 21:51.03 | Simca | able* |
| 21:51.16 | Simca | and you can just download the no-lib versions and install the libraries yourself |
| 21:51.42 | MiRai | Okay, I have a list to go down so I'll see what my options are |
| 21:54.53 | DJJeff | my connection to curse is cutting in and out |
| 21:54.57 | DJJeff | grrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 21:56.28 | DJJeff | VIad, wow-pro has made an update for tom tom |
| 21:57.00 | DJJeff | jnwhiteh, wow-pro has made an update for tom tom |
| 21:57.19 | Kaelten | DJJeff: hum, what's going on? |
| 21:57.20 | DJJeff | I think all they did was comment out the astrolabe stuff |
| 21:57.33 | DJJeff | so its only a temp fix |
| 21:58.15 | DJJeff | I think astrolabe has an update there is still POI bugs with tom tom |
| 22:02.44 | DJJeff | ah here it is |
| 22:02.45 | DJJeff | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/tomtom/tickets/146-hacked-up-version-works-in-602-mostly/ |
| 22:04.04 | DJJeff | oh its not in patch format? |
| 22:07.01 | Simca | you didn't read both comments i guess |
| 22:07.05 | Simca | because he said it was fine |
| 22:07.08 | DJJeff | oh? |
| 22:07.19 | DJJeff | one was just about linux line endings |
| 22:07.30 | Simca | "I was able to convert this to unix line endings and I'm working on integrating some of the changes in master. Thanks for your help." |
| 22:07.38 | Simca | so he's working on it |
| 22:08.51 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.00 | foxlit | apparently everything that's not http 2xx is an http error, making it trash a perfectly good connection to follow the redirect. |
| 22:11.09 | DJJeff | ah |
| 22:11.21 | DJJeff | clique had a higher priority? |
| 22:11.23 | Primer | then write a script using a libcurl binding and reuse the connection |
| 22:11.28 | DJJeff | I never used clique |
| 22:11.55 | Primer | But I'm also going to guess that curl has a switch to follow 302's |
| 22:12.28 | Primer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.25 | foxlit | which is why there's an "Issue another request to this URL:" in that paste. |
| 22:13.41 | Fisker | accidentally trips |
| 22:13.59 | foxlit | It's basically told "I'm expecting a redirect, and you should follow it" and then it goes "OH WTF THIS IS NOT 200 ABORT ABORT ABORT! Oh, wait, this redirected. Okay, connect again." |
| 22:14.14 | Primer | yeah, I see what you mean now |
| 22:17.05 | Primer | dropping a zip onto globe...nothing happens |
| 22:17.11 | Primer | foxlit: ^^^^^ |
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| 22:22.26 | foxlit | yeah, I wanted to do something nice, and it didn't quite work. |
| 22:22.50 | foxlit | refresh all the things, should be okay now. |
| 22:27.38 | Primer | works now |
| 22:29.35 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: Im starting to wonder if the lagspikes i mentioned isn't ipv6 |
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| 22:32.38 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: its depressing because i know i cant even file a ticket about shit like this because Im gonna be told to delete my wtf folder |
| 22:33.38 | Primer | "OK, I deleted my WTF directory and the problem persists. Now what?" |
| 22:33.44 | Primer | Except you don't |
| 22:36.58 | Primer | foxlit: so in order to fully optimize one's addon, should one have a local for every WOW API listed? |
| 22:37.08 | foxlit | Primer: no, that's not the point. |
| 22:37.17 | Primer | I understand that's not the point |
| 22:37.23 | Primer | but I'm just saying |
| 22:37.43 | Primer | if CPU is at a premium, doing so would save a few CPU cycles |
| 22:38.27 | Neffi | not really |
| 22:38.31 | Neffi | don't do it |
| 22:39.05 | Neffi | Proper optimization means having efficient algorithms, profiling to find the big choke points and seeing if they can be improved |
| 22:39.26 | Primer | well, I've been doing that too |
| 22:39.31 | foxlit | it's somewhat pathological because doing so breaks global api hooks; and basically trades memory for hash table lookups. |
| 22:39.32 | Neffi | caching global APIs in locals just fucks over anyone who tries to hook them (yes, even if they use hooksecurefunc). Do NOT do this |
| 22:39.45 | Primer | for example, I found that I was running unpack on every update on a SV |
| 22:40.00 | Neffi | things like that ought to be rethought |
| 22:40.17 | Neffi | things like "oh if I make this local I save 2 CPU cycles" should not. |
| 22:40.28 | Neffi | in other words, don't micro-optimize |
| 22:40.37 | foxlit | by all means, localize the things you're happy about localizing. It's just that localizing everything as a matter of policy doesn't make much sense. |
| 22:41.03 | Primer | I was mostly wondering how little of a drop in the bucket it actually was |
| 22:41.31 | Neffi | yes, localize your own things. if you intend to run a function over a million iterations, then cache it in a local *right before the loop body*. don't keep resident local pointers to every API you use for speed, because you're just breaking hooks for no actual speed gain |
| 22:42.14 | foxlit | (on the other hand, I feel like designs that rely on global hooks deserve to be broken ocassionally.) |
| 22:42.29 | Neffi | whether or not you need to cache it over a million iterations is also up in the air. I cannot reproduce the supposed gains, because the actual call overhead trumps the global lookup by so much. but others report that the speed gain is there over *MANY* iterations, so meh |
| 22:43.18 | Neffi | foxlit: sometimes I use hooksecurefunc as a debugging aid. and sometimes a localized API call fucks with that |
| 22:43.24 | Neffi | the point is, it's simply bad policy |
| 22:43.52 | foxlit | consider writing correct code from the start :) |
| 22:44.26 | Neffi | sometimes the correct code involves a securehook, like on an oft-used API that's actually defined in framexml |
| 22:44.50 | Neffi | When I modify the framexml, I prefer to rely solely on secure post-hooks so I don't have to investigate the potential of introducing taint |
| 22:45.06 | Shadowed | if someone is hooking global APIs with securehook |
| 22:45.09 | Shadowed | they are probably doing something wrong |
| 22:45.39 | Shadowed | caching method calls in locals is also silly and pointless |
| 22:45.51 | Neffi | well off to buy groceries |
| 22:47.44 | Ironi | is there a solid way to avoid strings going to 2 different lines in scrollframe without checking the letters and cutting the text? |
| 22:49.32 | foxlit | (is there an http status code that says "I don't like your input?") |
| 22:49.59 | Shadowed | 400 bad request |
| 22:50.11 | foxlit | (on an application level -- it feels weird to say 200 OK then turn around and say "Oh, no, really, this didn't work." in an error message) |
| 22:51.10 | Primer | yeah, 400 is the standard for REST |
| 22:52.35 | foxlit | "The request could not be understood by the server due to malformed syntax." sounds a bit low-level (i.e. "you mangled HTTP there"), but it's probably a closer match than everything else in the 400 range. |
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| 22:55.33 | YammYcoding | guys, you see an option in interface > raid profiles to sort by role? I can't find it |
| 22:57.14 | smcn | YammYcoding it's a dropdown near the top |
| 22:59.21 | smcn | YammYcoding: oh you have to uncheck "keep groups together" to see it |
| 23:04.39 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.01 | Fisker | I can't sleep :( |
| 23:05.07 | Constie | Can't, or won't? |
| 23:05.11 | Primer | foxlit: "Globe would like you to use Author, Version, and X-Website .toc fields." Yet my toc defines Author and Version, but not X-Website |
| 23:05.36 | foxlit | "and" :) |
| 23:05.57 | Fisker | Can't |
| 23:06.22 | Primer | foxlit: Dunno...I suppose it could just be worded better |
| 23:06.28 | foxlit | (the message will go away if you add X-Website) |
| 23:06.31 | Primer | to just tell me the one it wants |
| 23:06.50 | Primer | yes, that's what I understood...just saying it seems misleading at first |
| 23:06.57 | Primer | because I started to add Author |
| 23:07.05 | Primer | then realized I already had that |
| 23:09.45 | DJJeff | this addon is preventing me from useing my quest items |
| 23:09.46 | DJJeff | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/fatality |
| 23:09.59 | DJJeff | so far 3 addons are preventing me from using my quest items |
| 23:10.07 | foxlit | mm, I see. I could drop the ones you're already supplying, but that seems suspiciously like work. |
| 23:10.22 | DJJeff | raidbuffstatus, fatality, and zeldaloot enhanced\ |
| 23:11.28 | DJJeff | I tried to douse the alliance wickerman and died 4 times because 3 addons wont let me douse the damn thing |
| 23:11.41 | DJJeff | sucks for me for having 109 addons |
| 23:12.12 | smcn | everything triggers is |
| 23:12.12 | foxlit | question: should I be looking at the Interface: tag to figure out which framexml to compare against, or just check everything against 6.0? |
| 23:12.13 | smcn | it* |
| 23:12.20 | smcn | just like everything bugs compactraidframe |
| 23:12.54 | DJJeff | and this is why ladies and gentlemen blizzard should STOP messing up addons |
| 23:13.41 | foxlit | silly them, someone must've tripped and hit the "mess up addons" button on their way to their office. |
| 23:13.52 | DJJeff | I think they did |
| 23:14.13 | Ironi | fix the addons that are tainting your ui ? |
| 23:14.25 | DJJeff | cause I use addons that no longer get updates |
| 23:14.33 | DJJeff | which is why I am complaining |
| 23:14.59 | DJJeff | when you use 108 some odd addons granted maybe 75 will get updated |
| 23:15.15 | Ironi | yeah i know, but i just usually fix them myself instead of blaming blizzard ;P |
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| 23:15.50 | DJJeff | unless I can find replacements for broken addons |
| 23:17.36 | DJJeff | which sucks because the replacements usually stink compared to the ones I had before |
| 23:18.08 | Ironi | change can be scary and all that |
| 23:18.21 | Ironi | what are you looking for atm? |
| 23:18.58 | DJJeff | only 3 are breaking my quest item usage |
| 23:19.00 | DJJeff | raidbuffstatus, fatality, and zeldaloot enhanced |
| 23:19.14 | DJJeff | I wrote ticket for RBS |
| 23:19.30 | DJJeff | im sure its the same bug in all 3 |
| 23:21.56 | foxlit | for fun, here's the objective tracker: http://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/#h:8dcafb65fd108d04d83561e838f7c3c1 |
| 23:22.04 | foxlit | and here's fatality: http://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/#h:5272b7c7a90faeb99c60facf72a0198c |
| 23:24.08 | Neffi | foxlit: Idea. If you're gonna also include keys in a global table under "Global writes" (like "Fatality.title") then the key should be slightly darker, like a light grey |
| 23:24.32 | Neffi | so you can skim the list for white-only lines to see strictly what ends up in _G |
| 23:24.33 | DJJeff | I wonder why I never got a lua error for fatality :( |
| 23:24.47 | foxlit | now if we just go to http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/19033/Blizzard_ObjectiveTracker/Blizzard_QuestObjectiveTracker.lua#84, we can verify that someone in the UI team should be slapped with a trout |
| 23:24.58 | Ironi | http://pastebin.com/a5rsSiXh ,there is working death announcer for you ;P |
| 23:25.21 | foxlit | which leads into http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/19033/Blizzard_ObjectiveTracker/Blizzard_QuestObjectiveTracker.lua#271 and then http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/19033/Blizzard_ObjectiveTracker/Blizzard_ObjectiveTracker.lua#982 and then nobody lives happily ever after. |
| 23:25.25 | Neffi | `_,` HAH |
| 23:25.54 | DJJeff | ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 23:25.54 | DJJeff | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/fatality/create-ticket/ |
| 23:26.00 | DJJeff | this page does not exist? |
| 23:26.07 | DJJeff | is that what that error says |
| 23:26.21 | foxlit | the project doesn't use the curseforge ticket tracker. |
| 23:26.27 | DJJeff | 403 forbidden |
| 23:26.33 | DJJeff | oh |
| 23:27.00 | DJJeff | is this addon 100% dead? |
| 23:27.03 | foxlit | Neffi: I don't know that they're keys :( |
| 23:27.39 | Neffi | how are you picking them up? parsing luac -l ? |
| 23:27.40 | foxlit | i.e. it's confusable with _G["Foo.Bar"] = 1 for me. |
| 23:28.03 | Neffi | or are you analyzing the source? |
| 23:28.44 | Neffi | if you make just the key part greyish, then it'll be obvious that it's foo['bar'] and not _G['foo.bar'] |
| 23:29.51 | DJJeff | ok im throwing fatality in the garbage |
| 23:29.59 | DJJeff | RBS might get updated |
| 23:30.00 | foxlit | foo.bar.baz.qux :) |
| 23:31.56 | foxlit | (I'm not objecting that it'd be nice; it's just inconvinient for implementation reasons.) |
| 23:33.43 | foxlit | at some point, I have all the information required to resolve the indexing, and then I stuff things down to a single string, which makes those things confusable. I could separate out things that are really table keys and color them differently; it's just inconvenient. |
| 23:35.54 | DJJeff | ohhhhhh |
| 23:35.57 | DJJeff | now I find this |
| 23:35.58 | DJJeff | http://www.townlong-yak.com/taint.log/ |
| 23:36.06 | DJJeff | its not enabled by default |
| 23:36.57 | DJJeff | I should get a taint log going for zeldaloot im not giving up on that addon |
| 23:49.17 | DJJeff | [ADDON_ACTION_FORBIDDEN] AddOn 'RaidBuffStatus' tried to call the protected function 'UseQuestLogSpecialItem()'. |
| 23:53.40 | Torhal | DJJeff: The new quest stuff is taintable as hell. Ackis Recipe List gets blamed for that same error. |
| 23:53.43 | Torhal | It's like WTF? |
| 23:53.55 | Torhal | I don't even mess with quest stuff :/ |
| 23:55.23 | Semlar | torhal just goes around touching things and blizzard gets upset |
| 23:56.48 | Ressy | lol |
