| 00:01.06 | foxlit | but then what you're going to suggest is... writing your SlashCmdList handler in OnUpdate. |
| 00:01.24 | foxlit | Which is going to work until you mit your parralel universe self who's running the same diabolical plan. |
| 00:01.29 | foxlit | s/mit/meet/ |
| 00:02.09 | Mr_Rabies | Neffi: not today's episode yet |
| 00:02.44 | Neffi | this season is excellent so far. best yet |
| 00:02.54 | Mr_Rabies | i've liked it consistently throughout |
| 00:03.06 | foxlit | "but I hate OnUpdate and its so inefficient! Can't I hooksecurefunc something?" "Sure." |
| 00:04.29 | Semlar | i just run everything on update so i don't have to register for any events |
| 00:05.04 | foxlit | perfect plan. |
| 00:05.08 | foxlit | but how do you log them combats? |
| 00:05.41 | Semlar | i suppose that might limit the scope of what my addon could do |
| 00:06.31 | Semlar | i could make up the numbers.. |
| 00:07.14 | foxlit | "You blinked and found yourself missing 4320 health." |
| 00:07.49 | Semlar | neffi i'm going to make a damage meter that puts me a random percentage ahead of the rest of the group |
| 00:08.06 | Semlar | it'll be a great motivational addon |
| 00:08.34 | Semlar | super lightweight |
| 00:08.41 | Semlar | wouldn't need to record any actual data |
| 00:08.55 | Mr_Rabies | until you run into that gimmick vehicle fight where someone else does 25x normal damage to a certain mob |
| 00:09.47 | Neffi | Semlar: do it |
| 00:10.45 | foxlit | there should honestly be more vehicle fights in the game. |
| 00:11.03 | Neffi | less. you spelled less wrong |
| 00:11.11 | foxlit | just for the sheer annoyance of people having to click things that aren't their /cast Lots of Damage Right Now macros. |
| 00:11.23 | Semlar | i want to play as a vehicle class |
| 00:12.06 | foxlit | something like Malygos was rather nice. |
| 00:12.16 | Semlar | the big issue with random vehicles in fights is you have 2 seconds to figure out what the hell all of these buttons you just got are supposed to do |
| 00:12.52 | foxlit | The only kind of problem there is finding your drake and the giant pool of don't-stand-in-poo among 25 flapping drakes. |
| 00:13.37 | foxlit | Semlar: Malygos drakes had that daily, which was reasonably designed. |
| 00:14.16 | foxlit | (and, really, you have like 2.5s to read spell tooltips of boss abilities if you want to figure out how they'll kill you before they do.) |
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| 01:57.07 | Primer | So apparently my addon got packaged with one lib missing |
| 01:57.16 | Primer | .pkgmeta remains the same |
| 01:57.31 | Primer | the url to the repo for the lib still serves up the lib (that lib being Astrolabe) |
| 01:59.24 | Esamynn|work | that seems odd |
| 01:59.41 | Esamynn|work | I swear I haven't changed anything |
| 02:00.55 | Primer | well, I just pushed a new tag |
| 02:01.20 | Primer | but yet, .pkgmeta did not change at all, and the zip has no Astrolabe directory |
| 02:01.31 | Primer | it has every other embedded dep though |
| 02:02.55 | Primer | Not all threads finished, remaining: Checkout <Local SvnRepository: wow/ace3/mainline>, Checkout <Remote SvnRepository: http://svn.esamynn.org/astrolabe/trunk>, Checkout <Local GitRepository: wow/libaboutpanel/mainline> (0 running) |
| 02:02.59 | Primer | from the packager log |
| 02:03.35 | Primer | but subsequent lines seem to imply it was retrieved |
| 02:03.51 | Primer | www.wowace.com/addons/flight-hud/repositories/mainline/packager/ not sure if you'll see the same thing I see |
| 02:04.51 | Stanzilla | try svn:// instead of http |
| 02:04.52 | Primer | Or I may just be on crack |
| 02:04.57 | Primer | or in the correct directory |
| 02:05.43 | Primer | ok, nm |
| 02:05.50 | Primer | I must have fucked something up |
| 02:08.21 | Primer | yeah, I definitely fucked something up |
| 02:08.58 | Ressy | uhh.. Shadow & Light isn't safe at all. |
| 02:09.03 | Ressy | he just moved it from 1 file to another. |
| 02:10.22 | Stanzilla | Ressy: the file is not loaded though |
| 02:12.03 | Stanzilla | oh it does |
| 02:13.20 | Stanzilla | s/does/is/ |
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| 02:50.17 | Kesava | (is there a replacement for inline-aura?) |
| 02:50.21 | Kesava | i can't live without inline aura. |
| 02:51.27 | Kesava | oh nvm i found adi's replacement for it |
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| 02:58.23 | Stanzilla | hey Kesava |
| 02:58.37 | Kesava | hai |
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| 03:48.48 | Mr_Rabies | can cancelauras be done on a timer of any sort? in combat? |
| 03:49.18 | Mr_Rabies | managing aspect of the pack with it not being on an aspect bar suuuucks :< |
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| 03:50.28 | Stanzilla | why? |
| 03:50.36 | Stanzilla | make a macro that toggles it? |
| 03:52.32 | Seerah | Happy birthday, pompy! |
| 03:54.14 | Mr_Rabies | because it's more buttons, stanzilla |
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| 03:54.45 | Gragagrogog | nope, they disabled this i think at start of mop |
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| 04:23.58 | Stanzilla | I don't have a DM, kd3 :( |
| 04:25.54 | kd3 | sorry, you had a 1/1000ish chance |
| 04:26.41 | Stanzilla | damn |
| 04:27.08 | kd3 | https://twitter.com/Wowpedia/status/522039816851316736 1015 RTs, holy crap |
| 04:27.45 | Stanzilla | how did you chose the winner? |
| 04:28.12 | kd3 | picked a random number from 1-1015 |
| 04:28.27 | kd3 | used the twitter api to get the full list of RTers |
| 04:28.39 | Stanzilla | ah |
| 04:41.51 | Ironii | Mr_Rabies just make a new action bar and use it as a stance bar? |
| 04:42.12 | Mr_Rabies | i guess i could do that with all my chars |
| 04:42.16 | Mr_Rabies | replace the stance bar and rebind on every char |
| 04:42.21 | Mr_Rabies | actually not a bad idea |
| 04:43.42 | Ironii | why would you need to do that to other characters? ;P |
| 04:43.44 | Ironii | beside hunter |
| 04:43.46 | Mr_Rabies | global bindings |
| 04:43.54 | Mr_Rabies | per char is too much of a mess |
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| 04:44.49 | Gragagrogog | iam using OPie for theese little things.... otherwise same bindings on all chars |
| 04:45.15 | Mr_Rabies | if i could just double up on bindings i'd be set |
| 04:45.17 | Neffi | OPie is excellent, but I'm not sure about its author. I hear he's really shifty ;) |
| 04:45.40 | Mr_Rabies | have numpad1 be stance 1 and also something else, so if one fails the other happens |
| 04:45.50 | Mr_Rabies | (or both happen if they're not on a gcd or otherwise exclusive) |
| 04:47.42 | Ironii | basicly all you want is a ability to make one button macros that plays for you ? ;) |
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| 04:52.09 | Corv | sighs |
| 04:52.20 | Corv | Guildies freaking out about ElvUI is giving me a headache |
| 04:53.14 | kd3 | elv lost my trust in his actions/reaction to the whole thing, so I encouraged my guildies to drop it and find something else |
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| 04:54.19 | Corv | Is there a fuller story? I saw reddit post -> function removed -> people still freaking out. |
| 04:55.45 | kd3 | that's more or less it. unannounced backdoors are a huge red flag, but if elv even looked remotely contrite/apologetic about it I'd be a lot less pissed off at him |
| 04:55.58 | Mr_Rabies | it was in for months and allegedly he and/or sara were abusing it in lfr, but who knows |
| 04:56.06 | Mr_Rabies | months or years even |
| 04:56.12 | kd3 | months? it got added in feb 13 says the git log |
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| 04:56.23 | Corv | I dug around their git, the oldest related function I saw was beginning of last year |
| 04:56.48 | Corv | Let them use other players as mouthpieces for chat, commented "HAHAHAHAHA" or the like. |
| 04:57.12 | Corv | Then, by summer time, it picked up the remote execution branch |
| 04:57.27 | Corv | But, that branch, from what I saw, always printed a notice the player executing the code. |
| 04:57.46 | Corv | tl;dr, looks like it started as a stupid troll thing that turned into a legit dev tool. |
| 04:58.34 | Mr_Rabies | absuing it being mostly getting people to say stuff in /i and follow people, and /train and stuff |
| 04:58.34 | kd3 | not that being told "hey, I'm going to run "GuildDisband()" now, k?" is much of a defense |
| 04:58.35 | Mr_Rabies | but still |
| 04:58.40 | Mr_Rabies | not great |
| 04:58.46 | Ironii | just as legit as the elvui light shadow edit |
| 04:59.15 | Corv | If malicious intent was the purpose, the alert wouldn't be there, I'd think? |
| 04:59.41 | Corv | I mean, it's stupid and irresponsible to have the chat thing in the first place. |
| 05:00.11 | Ironii | http://git.tukui.org/repooc/elvui-shadowandlight/commit/d16564b76b1fabf8eab4b0f649fbd977b51f9774 |
| 05:00.46 | Stanzilla | best thing about that is how the log is broken when it comes to him adding the new file to the xml |
| 05:00.49 | Stanzilla | so it gets loaded |
| 05:01.12 | Stanzilla | our s that only my browser https://mediacru.sh/Ab0Iv9XWBTBg |
| 05:01.16 | Stanzilla | *or |
| 05:01.24 | Ironii | that one also has the chat warning, + gui named 'The Evil Overlord Control Panel', but i guess its not malicious since there is a warning |
| 05:02.49 | Stanzilla | nope, not my browser, heh |
| 05:03.08 | Corv | Alright, hadn't seen any of this - I was just going from the stock? build here http://www.tukui.org/git/?a=summary&p=ElvUI |
| 05:03.31 | Stanzilla | Corv: two different things though |
| 05:03.44 | Stanzilla | what Ironii linked is a fork that has the same "feature" |
| 05:03.51 | Stanzilla | with even more whitelisted character names |
| 05:04.00 | Stanzilla | elv really removed his code, this guy did not |
| 05:04.00 | Corv | Yeah, that's definitely problematic. |
| 05:06.35 | Ressy | Kaelten's already looked at the code. |
| 05:08.15 | Kaelten | Stanzilla: the only thing the code returns now is lvl, name, class, realm, and addon version |
| 05:09.45 | Fisker | Hey Kaelten |
| 05:09.58 | Kaelten | hihi |
| 05:10.00 | Stanzilla | Kaelten: yeah I saw just now |
| 05:10.40 | kd3 | cripes. picked up nearly 1000 followers this week. I should do giveaways more often |
| 05:11.43 | Kaelten | kd3 what did you give away? |
| 05:11.52 | kd3 | a blizzcon 2011 loot code |
| 05:12.07 | Stanzilla | and I didn't win :( |
| 05:12.21 | Corv | Okay, but, bigger picture: Why is loadstring even exposed in the first place? |
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| 05:17.09 | Ironii | so you can sync /train emote for everyone when you are taking a screenshot? |
| 05:17.16 | Kaelten | Corv: it has some legit uses |
| 05:17.19 | Iriel | Corv: Loadstring is extremely useful. |
| 05:17.30 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/1uJdZ4e.png madness |
| 05:17.31 | Iriel | Couldnât write /dump without loadstring |
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| 05:19.52 | Primer | I wish there was a spec index for macros that covered each class's possible specs, not just the current ones |
| 05:20.29 | Stanzilla | I don't understand what you just said |
| 05:20.43 | Primer | every class has 3 specs, except druids, which have 4 |
| 05:20.57 | Ironii | where do you need to use specilization as a macro conditional? |
| 05:21.05 | Primer | I use it all the time |
| 05:21.16 | Primer | back when macro space was at a premium |
| 05:21.27 | Ironii | but why ;p |
| 05:21.49 | Ironii | paste one macro where that is actually needed |
| 05:21.52 | Primer | You must be a clicker |
| 05:21.56 | Primer | and a keyboard turner |
| 05:22.22 | Primer | /cast [@mouseover,harm,spec:2] [@target,harm,spec:2] [,spec:2] Unstable Affliction; [@mouseover,harm,spec:1] [@target,harm,spec:1] [,spec:1] Conflagrate |
| 05:22.49 | Primer | hrmm, never noticed the extra , |
| 05:22.58 | Stanzilla | I just have profiles |
| 05:23.18 | Primer | profiles...for macros? |
| 05:23.39 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 05:23.46 | Primer | Please explain |
| 05:24.11 | Stanzilla | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/bind-pad |
| 05:25.05 | Ironii | wouldn't that macro work without [spec] conditionals? |
| 05:25.13 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 05:25.17 | Ironii | since you can't have those spells at the same time |
| 05:26.47 | Primer | I just figured it'd fail since I didn't have the first spell |
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| 05:27.25 | Primer | yeah, it fails |
| 05:29.34 | Ironii | /cast [@mouseover,harm,spec:2] [@target,harm,spec:2] [,spec:2] Unstable Affliction; |
| 05:29.34 | Ironii | /cast [@mouseover,harm,spec:1] [@target,harm,spec:1] [,spec:1] Conflagrate |
| 05:29.43 | Ironii | without the [specs] ofc ;P |
| 05:30.42 | Ironii | i use macros similar for talent tiers, without conditionals tho, but that shouldn't matter at all |
| 05:30.55 | Primer | but then the icon doesn't work |
| 05:31.05 | Primer | it shows a question mark when I'm in the other spec |
| 05:31.28 | Ironii | you can use script for that |
| 05:31.48 | Primer | I had tier macros too |
| 05:31.53 | Primer | but then they changed everything |
| 05:31.58 | Stanzilla | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/talentmacros |
| 05:32.00 | Stanzilla | ^works |
| 05:32.52 | Primer | so many typos |
| 05:33.00 | Primer | in these addon pages |
| 05:33.39 | Ironii | speaking of talents, someone should make a addon to avoid 'spell not learned' error when swiching talents |
| 05:34.10 | Primer | yeah, still doesn't work |
| 05:34.20 | Primer | I switched to demon, btw |
| 05:34.51 | Ironii | it doesn't do anything? |
| 05:35.37 | Primer | well, I have tier macros that work on my other toons |
| 05:35.40 | Corv | Anyone know if this bug has been fixed? http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/13978458174 |
| 05:35.40 | Primer | but not this one |
| 05:35.54 | Primer | besides, this is not a tier ability |
| 05:36.02 | Corv | I'm kinda short on un-learned toys to test with |
| 05:36.52 | Primer | doh |
| 05:37.01 | Primer | forgot you had to use the macro once before the icon would change |
| 05:37.43 | Primer | ok, wait...the icon changes when you run it, then changes back to a question mark |
| 05:37.55 | Primer | bah, it's always something |
| 05:38.07 | Primer | I really wish they would have just made more space for each toon |
| 05:38.10 | Primer | instead of global |
| 05:45.54 | Ironii | Corv mayby its intented to use item name instead of item id? |
| 05:48.26 | Corv | Seems to be causing some issues with items like Foot Ball/Foot Ball. |
| 05:48.53 | Corv | At least, that's what I'm down to as my best guess. |
| 05:49.13 | Ironii | actually, why don't you just use 'toy' instead of 'item' ? :o |
| 05:49.58 | Corv | Would that work? Trying to go through the user's bags and *learn* the toys. |
| 05:50.13 | Ironii | ah my bad |
| 05:50.32 | Ironii | for some reason i though you wanted to use them |
| 05:51.34 | Ironii | but i guess you could try UseToy(toyID); |
| 05:51.38 | Ironii | who knows, mayby it works ^^ |
| 05:51.50 | Corv | Thing is, I have the addon working flawlessly for me. |
| 05:51.59 | Corv | But a german user is saying it chokes up trying to learn Fußball |
| 05:52.05 | Corv | It just doesn't ever use the item. |
| 05:52.48 | Stanzilla | damn germans |
| 05:53.17 | Corv | I switched my own locale over, found a toy I didn't know, and it proceeded to work flawlessly. |
| 05:53.31 | Corv | Which suggests it's something about that item? |
| 05:53.32 | Stanzilla | never trust germans |
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| 05:54.27 | Corv | But the only relevant string matching is for any character, so I don't think the ß in the name is screwing me up... |
| 05:54.49 | Dagmar | Football still has some issues |
| 05:55.28 | Dagmar | One is a soccer ball and one is an American "football", and they wind up with the exact same icon and description once they're in the toybox. |
| 05:55.51 | Dagmar | So... there's a good chance it's not your code that's at fault. |
| 06:01.45 | Ironii | hmph, how the hell /castglyph is still not working like it should |
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| 06:03.43 | Corv | @Dagmar not quite |
| 06:03.55 | Corv | Yes, there is the Pigskin, the American football |
| 06:04.08 | Corv | But there are two Foot Balls, one a Winter Veil gift, one from toy vendors. |
| 06:04.26 | Corv | (the former is no longer available) |
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| 06:13.13 | Ironii | Corv have you tried using bag & slotid instead of item name? |
| 06:13.53 | Corv | I suppose that is the sane route, eh? |
| 06:14.12 | Corv | For testing purposes, is the PTR available right now? |
| 06:15.47 | Ironii | beta is atleast up |
| 06:16.50 | Corv | I was about to say I don't have access and then I saw the topic |
| 06:17.12 | Corv | I quit for several months prior to the patch because year-long raid teirs, etc |
| 06:21.07 | Ironii | yea soo is getting abit boring |
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| 06:22.41 | Ironii | mhh, actually it looks like i have been farming it over a year now >.> |
| 06:23.10 | Ironii | according to wowprogress first kill was oct 11 2013 |
| 06:26.10 | Gragagrogog | hmm HC Garosh killed 02 02 2014 |
| 06:27.24 | Gragagrogog | we killed HC lei shen 4 weeks before patch |
| 06:27.44 | Ironii | well, atleast you didn't have to farm it too long ^^ |
| 06:28.24 | Ironii | i have to say that farming soo is alot more nicer than farming tot, that place was horrible |
| 06:29.41 | Gragagrogog | i would actualy like to farm it longer.... i liked that raid a lot more than soo, tho lei shen was rng fight :P |
| 06:30.21 | Ironii | mhh, how :o |
| 06:31.32 | Gragagrogog | bad person at bad moment getting static shock means wipe |
| 06:31.41 | Ironii | well, actually yeah, for us if my nitro boost failed, it was pretty sure wipe |
| 06:32.56 | Gragagrogog | in last phase if DKs get static it was a wipe after adds spawn, no1 to grip them |
| 06:33.50 | Gragagrogog | 25man btw... |
| 06:34.17 | Ironii | easymode 25man |
| 06:34.19 | Ironii | x) |
| 06:37.43 | Gragagrogog | heh, i laughed my ass off when ive seen how easy lei shen is in 10man |
| 06:38.26 | Ironii | mhhh? |
| 06:39.02 | Ironii | lei shen was one of those bosses that were easier on 25man than on 10man? ;p, mainly becouse you have more raid cd's and people to spread evenly |
| 06:39.28 | Gragagrogog | no organizing 7 ppl to be spread max 20yd arround boss 8yd spaced, instead of 5 ppl getting to 5 sport in intermezzo, you have 2 ppl getting to 2 sport... |
| 06:41.46 | Ironii | 5 guys getting in to 5 spots during intermission? |
| 06:41.47 | Ironii | wa |
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| 06:42.42 | Gragagrogog | that thing... if some1 didnt stand in it an add would spawn... |
| 06:48.54 | Ironii | yeah? 5 in 25man = 2 in 10man |
| 06:49.09 | Ironii | its 20% of your raid |
| 06:50.34 | Simca | you have more room for failure on 25man lei shen |
| 06:50.43 | Simca | if a single person fails, there is a good chance there is another nearby |
| 06:50.49 | Simca | on 10, if 1 person fails, you all die |
| 06:52.29 | Ironii | main problem in 10man was that you had to split in to 4/3 platforms with only 2 healers |
| 06:52.36 | Ironii | so every platform didn't have a healer |
| 06:53.16 | Gragagrogog | but youre a lot less likely to fail in 10 man with 2 ppl in one quarter soaking then with 5 ppl getting to the right spot |
| 06:53.18 | Ironii | or grips/speed boosts/anything to use on helm o fcommand target |
| 06:54.31 | Simca | yeah pretty much all of the fights that favor 25man are the ones where 10man doesn't have enough healer coverage |
| 06:54.35 | Ironii | rofl, how about we start discussing the mechanics with assuming you don't fail |
| 06:55.34 | Ironii | Simca yeah, or raid cds |
| 06:56.05 | Ironii | usually the fights that favor 10man are just pure dps race |
| 06:56.13 | Simca | the hydra bosses on heroic in ToT - if both healers had to run with flames or ice, or healers had to run one after the other |
| 06:56.26 | Simca | it would get really tricky |
| 06:56.40 | Ironii | thats why most guilds used 3 healers |
| 06:56.51 | Ironii | dps requirement wasnt that bad |
| 06:57.07 | Simca | yeah |
| 06:57.08 | Gragagrogog | i tried both raid sizes, progressed and killed 25, then went 10, 10 was like a normal mode |
| 06:57.27 | Ironii | Gragagrogog thats becouse you had already done it |
| 06:57.59 | Simca | i guess the one good thing that will come from WoD |
| 06:58.02 | Simca | is that this argument will end |
| 06:58.04 | Simca | permanently |
| 06:58.07 | Simca | lol |
| 06:58.12 | Gragagrogog | we killed the 10man on like 3rd pull |
| 06:58.17 | Gragagrogog | ye, agree |
| 06:58.18 | Simca | you either do it with 20, or you're shit out of luck |
| 06:58.33 | Ironii | we cleared soo 25hc in 4 hours or so and it was easy as hell, doesnt mean 25man was that easy while progressing |
| 06:58.50 | Ironii | when we first started running 25hc ;p |
| 07:00.06 | Gragagrogog | nvm.... i just wisch you would try keeping the last phase spots for sparks :D |
| 07:00.42 | Fisker | Must gonna hey Shirik |
| 07:00.50 | Fisker | Just* |
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| 07:36.31 | Arrowmaster | everybody is playing the new borderlands but me... fuck it im going to bed |
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| 08:58.14 | nevcairiel | why dont you play it |
| 08:59.16 | mikma | i would but i don't have the money to buy it. lul |
| 09:00.41 | Gragagrogog | http://cdn.meme.am/instances/46699209.jpg |
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| 09:26.40 | VIad | hmm |
| 09:26.45 | VIad | some tips for wowinterface git |
| 09:27.05 | VIad | added my public key, used the format "ssh-rsa X Y" (X key and Y name) |
| 09:27.17 | VIad | but I got "The new rsa2 key fingerprint is: |
| 09:27.18 | VIad | ssh-rsa 2048 26:e9:84:75:05:ee:77:87:1e:f8:36:02:6b:0e:2e:59 |
| 09:27.18 | VIad | Connection abandoned. |
| 09:27.18 | VIad | fatal: Could not read from remote repository." |
| 09:29.40 | VIad | fixed |
| 09:29.41 | VIad | cache issue |
| 09:29.41 | VIad | :/ |
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| 09:30.06 | mikma | heh, why is my wolf (hunter pet) dancing all the time |
| 09:30.13 | VIad | it's fun to dance mikma |
| 09:30.35 | mikma | yeah, true, but odd feature |
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| 10:35.32 | VIad | it appears safe |
| 10:35.36 | VIad | but is this safe? :P 'for k,v in pairs(t)do if v.a==1 then t[k]=nil end end' |
| 10:35.52 | VIad | iterate over and delete all entries with matching value |
| 10:36.00 | nevcairiel | deleteing is safe, adding not |
| 10:36.04 | nevcairiel | -e |
| 10:36.21 | Semlar | only because it's pairs though |
| 10:36.40 | nevcairiel | he asked for pairs |
| 10:38.22 | Semlar | i just mean pairs is special, don't iterate over an indexed table in order and start removing values without adjusting your index |
| 10:38.51 | VIad | yeah |
| 10:39.09 | VIad | the keys are questIDs so not going to use ipairs here |
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| 11:20.40 | Mr_Rabies | lol http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14926912740 |
| 11:22.53 | Constie | I LIKE capitalizing certain WORDS here and THERE in my POSTS. |
| 11:24.38 | Semlar | qQueue |
| 11:25.19 | Semlar | people do realize that the in-game raid finder isn't supposed to be oqueue right |
| 11:25.30 | Semlar | it's just an update to their LFG system? |
| 11:25.33 | nevcairiel | it kinda was supposed to be that |
| 11:26.06 | nevcairiel | not sure about the underlying API and everything, but the UI certainly could use some love |
| 11:26.33 | Semlar | i'm working on something, don't know if i'll finish it |
| 11:26.46 | nevcairiel | knowing you its probably going to be evil |
| 11:26.52 | Semlar | >_> |
| 11:27.01 | Semlar | it might be slightly sinister |
| 11:27.07 | Mr_Rabies | i've used the new premade tool to great effect so far |
| 11:27.20 | nevcairiel | yeah it works fine, but the UI could sitll need some improvements |
| 11:27.26 | Semlar | probably not how they intended us to use the api at any rate |
| 11:27.29 | Mr_Rabies | the only thing that is really missing is a reputation system but blizzard will never add anything like that |
| 11:27.57 | Semlar | they need to make it so we can inspect the people we're inviting to groups |
| 11:28.11 | Semlar | see their achievements/how many times they've done the raid |
| 11:28.28 | Mr_Rabies | eh you can see some of that stuff once they're in the raid |
| 11:28.58 | Mr_Rabies | make your requirements clear ahead of time and boot if they're not met |
| 11:29.00 | Semlar | granted i don't think they really want us excluding people immediately based on their experience |
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| 11:30.03 | Mr_Rabies | if you really want super fine tuned control, there's always openraid |
| 11:30.24 | nevcairiel | i think the filtering in the raid section is stupid, it should allow you to properly select the raid you want to do, and not have some weird text box where you can enter that based on some autocomplete vlaues |
| 11:30.27 | Semlar | grr it takes me so long to make UIs |
| 11:31.05 | Semlar | yeah, the search is bizarre |
| 11:31.12 | nevcairiel | since like 99% is SoO anyway right now, thats kinda irrelevant, but it might become more important later |
| 11:31.18 | nevcairiel | also for dungeons etc |
| 11:31.37 | nevcairiel | it knows some categories, but it doesnt offer them to you directly |
| 11:31.38 | Semlar | it's also pretty bad at searching the titles, for example if you search for "fresh soo" it will only match those words in that exact order |
| 11:31.39 | nevcairiel | only through the text |
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| 11:32.05 | Mr_Rabies | what do you mean, nevcairiel |
| 11:32.23 | Semlar | you can't PICK siege of orgrimmar from a list, you have to start typing siege into the text bar |
| 11:32.41 | nevcairiel | yeah thats unintuitive if anything |
| 11:32.41 | Mr_Rabies | honestly that's the best way to do it with the screen real estate they have |
| 11:32.42 | Semlar | after opening the raid section |
| 11:32.52 | nevcairiel | Mr_Rabies: so make it bigger |
| 11:32.55 | nevcairiel | the window is tiny |
| 11:32.58 | Semlar | it's bizarre that you can't filter based on the raid you want |
| 11:32.59 | Mr_Rabies | if you don't know the name of the raid, you should probably stick to lfr |
| 11:33.11 | Semlar | and then search text separately |
| 11:33.31 | Semlar | i also don't really like that you can't put yourself in the queue any more for something |
| 11:33.59 | Semlar | the old system let you put yourself in the queue for a raid, so that raid leaders could look at who's looking to join that raid and could invite you |
| 11:34.14 | Mr_Rabies | it's the same now O_o |
| 11:34.17 | Mr_Rabies | wlel |
| 11:34.23 | Semlar | no, now you have to request to join a specific person's group |
| 11:34.24 | Mr_Rabies | you queue for a specific run, but that's fine |
| 11:34.25 | nevcairiel | you have to queue for individual groups |
| 11:34.32 | Semlar | which is fine |
| 11:34.32 | Mr_Rabies | i don't really see the issue but whatever |
| 11:34.42 | nevcairiel | you cnat say "I want SoO" and the different groups can contact you |
| 11:34.43 | Semlar | but it should also offer the old method |
| 11:35.03 | nevcairiel | offering both would have been nice, is all |
| 11:35.31 | Semlar | they're working on it |
| 11:35.31 | Mr_Rabies | i guess, but i'm okay with the burden of effort being on the person trying to join |
| 11:35.46 | Semlar | i'm sure this is not the final version we're going to see |
| 11:35.49 | Mr_Rabies | i'd rather see work orders for the auction house before that :v |
| 11:36.01 | nevcairiel | it makes filling key positions like tanks harder tho |
| 11:36.02 | Semlar | actually the old raid finder api let us get a LOT more information about players in the group than the new one |
| 11:36.14 | Semlar | like you could see the item level of every single person in the raid |
| 11:36.35 | Mr_Rabies | you can see people's ilvl when they list themselves for your group |
| 11:36.50 | Semlar | yeah but when you're looking at a raid in the browser you can't see information about who's in it |
| 11:37.15 | Mr_Rabies | no, but if you're looking for a pug i don't see why that matters :p |
| 11:37.55 | Semlar | maybe you want to be discerning about what elite groups you're joining |
| 11:38.11 | nevcairiel | you wouldnt want to get sucked into a group thats carrying low ilvls because they are friends |
| 11:38.54 | Mr_Rabies | there's no penalty for leaving at any point, so get the full info when you join instead of cramming too much info onto a single tooltip :p |
| 11:39.15 | Semlar | it wasn't in the tooltip before but it was in the api |
| 11:39.23 | Semlar | so addons could enhance it |
| 11:39.42 | Semlar | now, as far as i can tell, all you can do is check what class each raid member is |
| 11:40.18 | Semlar | i need to figure out if running a search always puts groups with people on your friends list in the results |
| 11:40.48 | Mr_Rabies | it's clear they really don't want to give people even more reason to prejudge players and bail, or they'd have done some kind of reputation system too |
| 11:41.10 | Semlar | a rep system would be too easy to abuse |
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| 11:41.33 | nevcairiel | yeah rep systems are extremely messy |
| 11:41.59 | Mr_Rabies | i'd say it's two sides of the same coin |
| 11:47.46 | Semlar | also nooooobody used the LFG browser on the beta so it was impossible to test |
| 11:48.34 | nevcairiel | one oversight in the browser, it should really have entries for world bosses, requiring custom groups for that is annoyin |
| 11:48.51 | nevcairiel | not sure if it has entries for WoD world bosses |
| 11:49.59 | Semlar | i haven't figured out if you can even check for entries that you aren't qualified for |
| 11:50.22 | Semlar | i don't think you can see what's available for level 100 at level 90 |
| 11:50.40 | nevcairiel | yeah, but it doesnt have ordos or celestials, so thats lacking |
| 11:51.18 | Semlar | it doesn't help that people can't spell |
| 11:54.10 | Semlar | at least group names aren't half as bad as they were on oqueue |
| 11:54.30 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:21.06 | Semlar | oh wow |
| 12:21.14 | Semlar | they updated their api since yesterday |
| 12:21.33 | Semlar | well this changes things |
| 12:22.58 | VIad | hmm |
| 12:23.01 | VIad | IsQuestComplete(32052) keeps returning false |
| 12:23.54 | Semlar | if you've completed it, it's because the client randomly loads without any of the completed quest data when you log in |
| 12:24.19 | Semlar | i reported it but i don't know if they've fixed things |
| 12:24.45 | Stanzilla | what did they update, Semlar |
| 12:25.00 | Semlar | if there's a limit on how many results LFG can return now, it's higher than 60 |
| 12:25.27 | Semlar | it's certainly not 25 |
| 12:25.38 | VIad | Semlar: I need to know if a user has finished a list of like 100 quests :p |
| 12:25.43 | VIad | so I naturally query using that API |
| 12:25.53 | Semlar | you know you can get a table of every quest they've completed |
| 12:26.30 | Semlar | GetQuestsCompleted() |
| 12:28.26 | Semlar | there are 70 groups in the raid queue right now so i can't verify if there is a cap on search results |
| 12:29.30 | Semlar | they might have removed it or they might have made it like 100 |
| 12:30.08 | Semlar | but this makes it so we can actually filter it however we want |
| 12:32.47 | nevcairiel | it was like 25 at some point |
| 12:32.53 | nevcairiel | may have bumped it |
| 12:35.22 | Semlar | it was 25 yesterday |
| 12:35.38 | Semlar | it's either gone or considerably higher than that now |
| 12:36.31 | nevcairiel | large wave of hotfixes last night, may have been in there |
| 12:48.33 | [TOM_RUS] | Semlar, where is that? i only see 25 (EU) |
| 12:49.02 | Semlar | america |
| 12:49.16 | nevcairiel | i see 25 exactly as well |
| 12:49.33 | Semlar | sucks to be you guys |
| 12:49.37 | Semlar | are you both in europe |
| 12:50.15 | Semlar | sounds like they haven't pushed it there |
| 12:50.54 | Semlar | i get more than 70 results in the raid tab right now |
| 12:51.12 | nevcairiel | how do you event count them, your addon? |
| 12:52.43 | Semlar | second result of the search function returns a table with the groups |
| 12:52.56 | Semlar | also it's really obvious when you go into the raid window and start scrolling |
| 12:53.48 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:54.30 | nevcairiel | yeah 25 always |
| 12:54.56 | [TOM_RUS] | isn't first arg is totalcount? |
| 12:55.12 | Semlar | first arg is total results, second is a table with the actual results you can get information about |
| 12:55.16 | [TOM_RUS] | it's 48 for me, but table size is 25 |
| 12:55.28 | nevcairiel | i dont suppose you can page through them huh |
| 12:56.02 | Semlar | it was capped at 25 for me yesterday, but it's clearly not capped any more for me |
| 12:56.12 | Semlar | i'm on wyrmrest accord on US |
| 12:56.26 | Semlar | it sounds like a change they haven't pushed everywhere yet |
| 12:57.36 | Semlar | or my account is magic |
| 12:57.45 | Semlar | that's another possibility |
| 13:06.12 | jleclanche | VIad: ping |
| 13:06.46 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:13.28 | [TOM_RUS] | Semlar, nice, hopefully someone will make better UI for group finder after those changes |
| 13:13.36 | Semlar | i'm working on it |
| 13:13.40 | [TOM_RUS] | with proper filtering and stuff like that |
| 13:13.53 | Semlar | you have any suggestions? |
| 13:14.24 | nevcairiel | basically it just needs a slightly bigger frame with direct filters for the raid, instead of relying on the text f or that |
| 13:14.45 | nevcairiel | that would already be huge |
| 13:15.33 | Semlar | i was thinking about creating a dropdown menu with submenus you could quickly navigate to whatever raid you wanted if you didn't want to just type the raid into the search box |
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| 13:16.29 | Semlar | like this http://s.cdn.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw6719.jpg |
| 13:16.36 | [TOM_RUS] | yeah, dropdown will work just fine, a lot better than typing |
| 13:17.06 | Semlar | just have it next to the search box and when you select something it fills it into the search for you |
| 13:17.18 | Semlar | since that's literally the only way you can actually filter the results |
| 13:17.33 | nevcairiel | imho it should prepend that to the text box silently |
| 13:18.06 | Semlar | well |
| 13:18.27 | Semlar | okay it could run the search and then i guess i could build in my own text search that filters those results |
| 13:18.41 | [TOM_RUS] | Semlar, lfg entries don't have some unique id that corresponds to specific raid/dungeon whatever? |
| 13:18.51 | Semlar | yeah they do |
| 13:19.02 | Semlar | except for custom entries |
| 13:19.14 | Semlar | but you can't search for them by id |
| 13:19.23 | nevcairiel | you have to use blizzards search function though, otherwise you are potentially limited by the max count |
| 13:19.30 | nevcairiel | whatever that may be now |
| 13:19.48 | Semlar | the text search is practically only good for typing the exact name of the raid you're searching for |
| 13:20.45 | Semlar | it doesn't search the description at all, as far as i know, and it doesn't search the titles very well |
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| 13:21.53 | Semlar | but it does search the name of the raid |
| 13:23.03 | Semlar | if you have a friend in the raid it puts that raid at the top of the search though |
| 13:23.13 | [TOM_RUS] | Semlar, what's the name of function that does a search? |
| 13:23.29 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:24.10 | Semlar | basically does a search on the "raid" category for all "recommended" PVE entries |
| 13:24.23 | Semlar | the second argument is the search string |
| 13:24.34 | Semlar | the first one is the category is |
| 13:24.36 | Semlar | ID |
| 13:25.24 | Semlar | the last 2 are filters but the only thing they can take are like PVP and PVE, and "recommended" or "not recommended" which as far as i can tell only applies to raids vs legacy raids |
| 13:27.01 | Semlar | i spent yesterday figuring out what pretty much all the functions do |
| 13:27.15 | Semlar | i think i know how it works well enough to make a browser for it |
| 13:28.42 | Semlar | i won't know if there's any cap at all on the search results until later |
| 13:28.49 | Semlar | it's way too early in the US right now |
| 13:29.14 | Semlar | but there are still 75 raids in the queue |
| 13:30.42 | Semlar | 84.. |
| 13:31.07 | Semlar | at least we know it's not 75 |
| 13:32.42 | Semlar | alright well even if the cap is like 100 or something it won't really matter that much, if you can't find your raid in the first hundred results you need to narrow down your search |
| 13:32.53 | jleclanche | ~seen VIad |
| 13:32.56 | purl | viad is currently on #wowuidev (6h 30m 12s). Has said a total of 20 messages. Is idling for 1h 7m 13s, last said: 'so I naturally query using that API'. |
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| 13:48.51 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.00 | Semlar | i'll worry about the aesthetics once it's functional |
| 13:53.12 | [TOM_RUS] | Semlar, does search return more result's if you put 0 as filters? |
| 13:53.25 | Semlar | you can leave the filters out entirely |
| 13:53.45 | Semlar | all they do is control whether you see pve and pvp results and recommended/not recommended results |
| 13:54.20 | Semlar | the PVE/PVP filter i think only applies to the "custom" category |
| 13:54.36 | Semlar | because the same category is used for both interfaces |
| 13:54.38 | Shirik | why the fuck does this exist http://www.brandsonsale.com/cigarette-costume.html |
| 13:55.25 | Semlar | the most results you should be able to return is doing (categoryID, '') as the search arguments |
| 13:56.10 | Semlar | if you wanted to run searches on every category it would take close to 30 seconds to execute them all |
| 13:56.37 | [TOM_RUS] | it uses 0 filter if you don't specify it http://paste2.org/ydIftxKH |
| 14:00.35 | Semlar | the game assumes anyone without a role specified is dps |
| 14:01.15 | Semlar | the tank/healer/dps count seems like it's probably only tentatively accurate |
| 14:01.58 | Semlar | i guess realistically there's no point in even showing the number of dps |
| 14:02.25 | Semlar | showing tanks / healers / total members might be fine |
| 14:05.35 | Semlar | i'm not even going to worry about pvp right now since there isn't an active season |
| 14:11.48 | Semlar | are there icons that indicate the different raid difficulties |
| 14:11.57 | Semlar | normal/heroic/mythic |
| 14:12.34 | Semlar | i guess i could use colors |
| 14:15.20 | nevcairiel | heroic typically used a skull, but not sure what the game now uses |
| 14:15.44 | nevcairiel | it probably has some icons for the difficulty indicator on the minimap tho |
| 14:19.35 | jleclanche | anyone using rematch having trouble in 6.0? i updated the addon but its giving me errors about nil settings and what not |
| 14:23.12 | [TOM_RUS] | Semlar, Interface\MINIMAP\UI-DungeonDifficulty-Button.blp only this I guess |
| 14:23.45 | Semlar | what did flex normally show |
| 14:24.23 | Semlar | oh well it's not that important |
| 14:27.19 | Semlar | i'm not sure why the api returns the number of downed bosses but not the total number of encounters in the raid |
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| 14:45.10 | Semlar | 100 is the new cap by the way |
| 14:45.26 | Semlar | there are 102 raids in the queue and it's only showing 100 |
| 14:46.23 | nevcairiel | Much better though |
| 14:46.32 | nevcairiel | Hope EU gets it too soon |
| 14:50.05 | [TOM_RUS] | i'm wondering if they are ever going to add some useful stats to C_LFGList.GetApplicantMemberStats |
| 14:58.18 | VIad | Semlar: if I GetQuestsCompleted() is there an event when I should do it to? |
| 14:58.29 | VIad | doubt it's efficient to get a whole table each second from GetQuestsCompleted :p |
| 14:58.54 | Semlar | are they tracking quests? |
| 14:59.16 | VIad | at login I want to check what quests were completed |
| 14:59.30 | VIad | could GetQuestsCompleted and check next() to see if it has data... |
| 14:59.32 | VIad | and stop as soon it has |
| 14:59.39 | VIad | assuming all the data is then loaded |
| 14:59.40 | Semlar | no, its information is available immediately |
| 15:00.02 | Semlar | there's no event to wait for |
| 15:00.26 | Semlar | and if the table is empty when you query it then it's broken |
| 15:00.59 | Semlar | if the table is empty when you log in then it means you will not be able to check completed quests without relogging |
| 15:01.35 | VIad | I cache the table at login then |
| 15:01.38 | VIad | :) |
| 15:01.43 | VIad | player_login |
| 15:02.02 | Semlar | what i don't know is whether it's worth it to create that table or just check a hundred different IsQuestCompleteds |
| 15:06.58 | Semlar | i need to completely redo my table widget |
| 15:08.23 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:09.23 | Semlar | so you can group rows under one header |
| 15:10.07 | Semlar | and i can have headers for the actual raid title like Siege of Orgrimmar (Heroic) |
| 15:10.45 | Semlar | that way if a search has multiple different raids you can expand them separately |
| 15:12.26 | Constie | Is there a nameplates addon that alerts you of buffs you can purge? |
| 15:14.21 | VIad | quickie |
| 15:14.26 | VIad | how did I git push release to curseforge? |
| 15:14.38 | VIad | tried to use "v6.0.0.141018" as tag and push it out but getting error |
| 15:16.51 | nevcairiel | that should be fine |
| 15:18.12 | VIad | "C:\Program Files (x86)\Git\bin\git.exe" push --progress "curseforge" tag release |
| 15:18.12 | VIad | Total 0 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0) |
| 15:18.12 | VIad | remote: Refusing unannotated tag refs/tags/release[K |
| 15:18.12 | VIad | remote: Please tag with "git tag -a"[K |
| 15:18.12 | VIad | remote: error: hook declined to update refs/tags/release[K |
| 15:18.13 | VIad | To git@git.curseforge.net:wow/candy-buckets/mainline.git |
| 15:18.13 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:18.14 | VIad | error: failed to push some refs to 'git@git.curseforge.net:wow/candy-buckets/mainline.git' |
| 15:18.14 | VIad | Done |
| 15:18.19 | VIad | tried using "release" as the docs suggested |
| 15:18.33 | nevcairiel | y.y |
| 15:18.36 | VIad | :( |
| 15:18.43 | nevcairiel | what kind of version number do you think "release" is |
| 15:18.44 | VIad | I broke it? |
| 15:18.57 | karl_w_w | it took me way too long to notice that walter white = welterweight |
| 15:19.01 | VIad | http://www.curseforge.com/wiki/repositories/repository-faq/#w-git-2 |
| 15:19.13 | VIad | "It checks if the tag name matches the regex ^v?[0-9\.\-_]+$|release|stable. In layman's terms, it is a release if either:" |
| 15:19.26 | nevcairiel | you dont speak regex, do you |
| 15:19.30 | VIad | so it can be anything like with "v" or "release" or "stable" |
| 15:19.33 | VIad | |1 means or |
| 15:19.37 | nevcairiel | hence, read the layman explanation below |
| 15:19.38 | nevcairiel | It has 'release' in the name |
| 15:19.40 | nevcairiel | IN the name |
| 15:19.43 | nevcairiel | not be the name |
| 15:19.48 | VIad | weird regex |
| 15:19.48 | VIad | ^v?[0-9\.\-_]+$|release|stable |
| 15:19.56 | VIad | ^$ | release | stable |
| 15:20.07 | VIad | ^v?[0-9\.\-_]+|release|stable$ |
| 15:20.13 | nevcairiel | it works |
| 15:20.24 | nevcairiel | either match the number pattern perfectly or contain release or stable |
| 15:20.29 | VIad | yeah |
| 15:20.31 | VIad | hence |
| 15:20.34 | VIad | "release" tag should work too |
| 15:20.35 | VIad | :P |
| 15:20.43 | VIad | but it errored |
| 15:20.51 | nevcairiel | it probably errors because you weirdo already have a release tag |
| 15:20.59 | VIad | it's a new repo |
| 15:21.18 | Stanzilla | why would you call it just release |
| 15:21.19 | foxlit | VIad: remote: Refusing unannotated tag refs/tags/release[K |
| 15:21.20 | nevcairiel | maybe there is a sanity guard against calling it release, since thats a stupid name |
| 15:21.20 | foxlit | [5:18pm] VIad: remote: Please tag with "git tag -a"[K |
| 15:21.27 | foxlit | Reading is for morons, clearly. |
| 15:21.34 | nevcairiel | oh right, there is that |
| 15:21.36 | VIad | I am using the git extensions |
| 15:21.43 | nevcairiel | i was hung up on the stupid name |
| 15:22.16 | VIad | I used "v" syntax before. |
| 15:22.21 | VIad | but I use git extensions for windows |
| 15:22.27 | VIad | maybe something changed, though havent updated it for ages |
| 15:22.47 | nevcairiel | fact remains you need an annotated tag |
| 15:23.03 | VIad | ah |
| 15:23.05 | VIad | I see it now |
| 15:23.09 | VIad | the GUI option :P |
| 15:24.49 | VIad | thanks for the help |
| 15:27.16 | Torhal | Fun fact: New packager will also use lightweight tags. |
| 15:27.31 | Semlar | eh, vlad's right about that regex only matching v or release or stable, it would only match "release" inside of a larger expression if you aren't matching from the start |
| 15:27.36 | nevcairiel | i was never sure whats up with that requirement Torhal |
| 15:28.08 | Torhal | nevcairiel: No idea. But I kinda had to use lightweight tags because GitHub. |
| 15:28.22 | Torhal | So it will do both. |
| 15:28.40 | nevcairiel | Semlar: throw it at a regex tester, it works fine |
| 15:29.16 | nevcairiel | matches stuff like v1.2.0 or banana-release |
| 15:29.44 | Torhal | New system also just defaults to release for tags, and appending -alpha or -beta will do what you'd expect. No more silly regex requirement. |
| 15:30.22 | Torhal | Too many years of confusion with that. |
| 15:30.28 | Semlar | match implies matching from the beginning of a string, not a search through the entire thing |
| 15:30.55 | Semlar | regardless of the anchors |
| 15:30.58 | nevcairiel | thats your interpretation |
| 15:31.00 | Semlar | no |
| 15:31.06 | Semlar | that's almost every language that supports regex |
| 15:31.31 | Semlar | you have re.match which matches from the start of the string or you have something like re.search |
| 15:31.37 | nevcairiel | it has to either match the entire string with ^v?[0-9\.\-_]+$ or contain release or stable |
| 15:31.40 | nevcairiel | thats what the regex says |
| 15:32.07 | nevcairiel | it makes no sense to argue with implementation stupidity :P |
| 15:32.22 | nevcairiel | regex itself defines "entire string" behaviour if you use start/end markers |
| 15:32.32 | Semlar | look, if you have a string like v123-release, that expression doesn't "match" it, it only "matches" "release" in that |
| 15:32.55 | nevcairiel | look, you are wrong! |
| 15:33.25 | nevcairiel | if you apply that regex onto that string, it spits out a match, hence it matches |
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| 15:35.06 | nevcairiel | that some crazy implementations have functions that imply "matches entire string" is totally irrelevant |
| 15:35.11 | Semlar | a partial match is not a match |
| 15:35.19 | VIad | in my world "^a$|b|c" means match exactly "a" or a string that contains "b" or "c" |
| 15:35.30 | Semlar | you're just searching if a string CONTAINS the pattern you're looking for |
| 15:35.33 | nevcairiel | and thats what it does VIad |
| 15:35.42 | VIad | but it's retarded |
| 15:35.50 | VIad | if you should use "v1.0-release" |
| 15:35.51 | nevcairiel | so your own world is retarded? |
| 15:35.54 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:35.55 | VIad | why not match it properly? :p |
| 15:36.16 | nevcairiel | it doesnt matter, the end result is exactly the same |
| 15:36.47 | nevcairiel | its only used to determine if a tag is a release, not to validate tag names or anything |
| 15:36.55 | Semlar | let me put it this way, if i'm searching a 1000 line document for a regex pattern and i get a hit, would you say the entire document matches that expression |
| 15:37.23 | foxlit | the pcre view on this is "yes" |
| 15:37.34 | foxlit | because if you wanted to validate the entire thing, you'd anchor your bloody pattern. |
| 15:37.51 | nevcairiel | this is why your argument for implementation details is stupid |
| 15:37.52 | foxlit | the Java view on this is "no", because sun hates you personally. |
| 15:38.14 | nevcairiel | regex has features to explicitly define if you want the entire string or a simple match is OK |
| 15:38.27 | Fisker | Oracle :( |
| 15:38.30 | nevcairiel | why would the API to use the regex mess with that as well |
| 15:40.02 | mitchnull | java has matches and find |
| 15:40.41 | mitchnull | and matches implies ^$ |
| 15:41.14 | nevcairiel | and i think this distinction is stupid if you can just put them yourself into the regex |
| 15:43.51 | Semlar | except when you're writing a sentence like "It checks if the tag name matches the regex" instead of saying "It checks if the tag name contains the regex" |
| 15:44.43 | Semlar | it could be more clear what it actually matches |
| 15:45.11 | foxlit | "contains the regex" is much, much, much worse. |
| 15:45.30 | Semlar | so fucking rewrite it to contains a match of the regex or whatever |
| 15:45.39 | foxlit | because the grammatically correct form of it is "contains a substring that matches the regex", and nobody has time for that. |
| 15:45.42 | Semlar | jesus christ |
| 15:45.56 | foxlit | Look, we're just saying your definition of "matches" is stupid and you should feel bad. |
| 15:45.58 | Semlar | i think you can understand the point |
| 15:46.06 | Semlar | well no i guess maybe you can't |
| 15:46.45 | Semlar | you have somewhat more concrete thinking than i do |
| 15:51.33 | foxlit | well, your dog is a poodle? :/ |
| 15:56.43 | Semlar | where is the map fade option in the interface |
| 15:57.10 | Constie | Objectives. |
| 15:57.25 | Torhal | fades Semlar from the map. |
| 15:57.38 | Semlar | objectives, of course |
| 15:57.47 | Torhal | I did so objectively. |
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| 16:19.58 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Torhal |
| 16:19.58 | purl | gets a hotmal account and SPAMs Torhal |
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| 16:27.21 | DJJeff | is there a replacement or better version of this? |
| 16:27.22 | DJJeff | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/broker_grouphelper/ |
| 16:27.29 | DJJeff | last updated in 2010? |
| 16:27.38 | DJJeff | it still works to some degree |
| 16:28.29 | DJJeff | nvm will just toss it |
| 16:29.02 | DJJeff | only used it to spew out vent info during raids anyway |
| 16:29.14 | DJJeff | otherwise useless |
| 16:29.28 | Semlar | you could just make a macro for that |
| 16:30.20 | Semlar | this was not last updated in 2010 |
| 16:30.40 | Semlar | it was updated for MoP |
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| 16:34.17 | DJJeff | is this project dead? |
| 16:34.18 | DJJeff | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/factionizer/ |
| 16:34.57 | DJJeff | lua error for it |
| 16:34.58 | DJJeff | https://bpaste.net/show/d42ba3e62a9c |
| 16:35.27 | Semlar | well i think guild levels are gone |
| 16:35.56 | Semlar | but i don't know why it needed the guild level so it's hard to say what's wrong with it |
| 16:36.07 | foxlit | rep gain perk, most likely. |
| 16:36.29 | Semlar | so it can just check if you're in a guild or probably check for the perk directly |
| 16:36.32 | foxlit | just, um, /run function GetGuildLevel() return 1 end |
| 16:36.48 | Semlar | or do that |
| 16:37.53 | DJJeff | is that a temp fix? |
| 16:38.02 | DJJeff | to get rid of the lua error |
| 16:38.21 | foxlit | maybe. It might be too late to do anything about it by the time you can run slash commands. |
| 16:38.28 | Semlar | no if you put that into the top of the addon it would be more of a permanent fix |
| 16:38.51 | Semlar | as a local function |
| 16:39.12 | foxlit | write it into the global env, np! |
| 16:39.27 | Semlar | well someone else might modify it too |
| 16:39.43 | foxlit | Then cross fingers that someone else knows as much about what they're doing as you do :) |
| 16:41.02 | Semlar | did you get the rep gain at guild level 1? |
| 16:41.22 | foxlit | doubt it. |
| 16:41.40 | Semlar | just have it return 25 |
| 16:41.51 | foxlit | but then it might think you have perks that are removed in 6.0 |
| 16:42.12 | foxlit | the point of 1 was "no, I don't have any beneficial effects form the guild" |
| 16:42.41 | foxlit | (or is rep still in for some strange reason?) |
| 16:42.52 | Semlar | i assume it is |
| 16:43.07 | Semlar | they left half the bonuses in just for being in the guild |
| 16:44.15 | foxlit | rep isn't one of those. |
| 16:44.40 | foxlit | all that remains is mount speed, hearthstone cooldown, guild bank, dead running, guild mail and mass ress. |
| 16:44.50 | Semlar | that's a shame |
| 17:12.40 | DJJeff | still working on collectinator ? |
| 17:12.59 | DJJeff | thats something I have not actually used since early cata |
| 17:19.16 | DJJeff | is someone working on tiptac? |
| 17:19.25 | DJJeff | this is one giant lua error |
| 17:19.26 | DJJeff | https://bpaste.net/show/2c49a44b7fff |
| 17:23.29 | DJJeff | I think thats the biggest lua error I have seen |
| 17:24.15 | Semlar | the error indicates overachiever |
| 17:25.21 | Semlar | actually who knows, i think all of these addons are hooking the tooltip hyperlink function |
| 17:26.42 | Constie | Is that from mousing over an achievement notice in chat? I seem to recall someone getting an error on doing that before the patch. |
| 17:27.00 | Semlar | and it looks like the link contains overflowing numbers |
| 17:27.25 | Semlar | link = "achievement:245:Player-87-059A916A:1:5:7:12:4294967295:4294967295:4294967295:4294967295" |
| 17:27.36 | Constie | TipTac was updated the other day, anyway, so you could bug report that. |
| 17:29.39 | Semlar | i can't tell if that's what the original achievement link contained or if it's been modified by the addons |
| 17:31.04 | foxlit | what's a nice thing to do if I'm changing the className of a few thousand dom elements? |
| 17:31.30 | foxlit | do I yank their common ancestor out of the dom tree, update classes, and reinsert? |
| 17:32.04 | Semlar | you can't just change it in place? |
| 17:32.17 | foxlit | you can change it in place. |
| 17:32.24 | Semlar | is that bad |
| 17:33.08 | foxlit | maybe. browsers are magic; it'd be bad if they decided to recompute styles a few thousand times. |
| 17:33.55 | Semlar | i suppose removing the node and putting it back wouldn't be a bad idea |
| 17:36.57 | foxlit | though I don't know why they don't just delay the entire thing until js finishes messing with things |
| 17:37.11 | Semlar | because javascript is never finished |
| 17:42.54 | Semlar | DJJeff: did you somehow remove the "t" from GetAchievementCriteriaInfo when you pasted that error |
| 17:44.09 | Semlar | criteria is missing its t |
| 17:44.39 | nevcairiel | thats just a typo in the error message from blizzard |
| 17:44.58 | Semlar | o.o |
| 17:45.17 | Semlar | more importantly why does this error not tell you what the function was called with |
| 17:45.24 | Semlar | the default error frame does that |
| 17:45.39 | nevcairiel | i dont think it does |
| 17:45.53 | Semlar | yeah, it does, i'm looking at the error right now |
| 17:46.01 | Semlar | Message: [string "return GetAchievementCriteriaInfo(245, 12)"]:1: GetAchievementCrieriaInfo(achievementID, criteriaIndex), criteria not found |
| 17:46.19 | nevcairiel | it only does that when you use /script or something |
| 17:46.22 | Semlar | really? |
| 17:46.23 | nevcairiel | not from an addon |
| 17:46.26 | foxlit | yes. |
| 17:46.34 | foxlit | that's your snippet name right there. |
| 17:46.36 | Semlar | that seems like information that you could use |
| 17:46.45 | nevcairiel | with /script it has a string form of your code to use |
| 17:46.50 | nevcairiel | in an addon, where is it going to get that |
| 17:47.06 | foxlit | in an addon, it'd normally tell you AddOns\Semlar\Foo.lua:432303 |
| 17:47.15 | nevcairiel | it will give you file and line, and potentially local variables |
| 17:47.24 | nevcairiel | although the local variables is a bit hit or miss sometimes |
| 17:47.28 | Semlar | the actual values aren't here though |
| 17:47.49 | Semlar | although the entire text isn't here so maybe they're farther down |
| 17:48.10 | Semlar | this error is cut off |
| 17:48.16 | nevcairiel | if you read core.lua:391 and then check which variables it a ctually used in the call, you can check further down in the paste which values those variables had |
| 17:48.18 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 17:48.28 | nevcairiel | oh well maybe slightly |
| 17:48.49 | nevcairiel | but without seeing how core.lua looks, i wouldnt know anyway which variable values i need |
| 17:49.32 | Semlar | the values aren't in the paste |
| 17:49.38 | nevcairiel | course they are |
| 17:49.46 | Semlar | id is, but not i which is the second variable |
| 17:49.58 | Semlar | the paste is clearly cut off after progressText |
| 17:50.34 | Semlar | the line is myDone1 = select(3,GetAchievementCriteriaInfo(id,i)) |
| 17:51.05 | nevcairiel | oh yeah i is missing |
| 17:51.45 | Semlar | i is probably a higher value than the number of criteria but i'm not sure why because they use a really weird way of calculating the number of criteria |
| 17:52.14 | nevcairiel | who cares, i got my own addons to worry about |
| 17:52.22 | Semlar | yeah! |
| 17:52.24 | nevcairiel | he was only fascinated by the long error anyway :p |
| 17:52.55 | Semlar | plus i think he's been raptured |
| 17:53.12 | nevcairiel | the addon got a 6.0 update tho, so someone still seems to be alive over there |
| 17:53.42 | Semlar | i'm more interested in the fact that the achievement link is full of 2^32-1 |
| 17:54.01 | Semlar | for what should probably be zeros |
| 17:54.34 | nevcairiel | i think its -1 |
| 17:54.44 | nevcairiel | which someone put into a unsigned field <.< |
| 17:55.32 | nevcairiel | i dont know whats in achievement links anyway |
| 17:57.14 | Semlar | evidently a handful of unknown values |
| 17:58.09 | Semlar | but mostly whether the player has completed the achievement and when |
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| 18:03.16 | Teazle | Good day all! I need to ask you guys something: if you make a global variable, u can use _G[]:SetText() - but can I do something like that with a local variable? Im taking a response from an event and using the result of a variable to do stuff, unitID:SetText() for example, unitID's value is my locals name... |
| 18:04.16 | Semlar | yes |
| 18:04.37 | Semlar | but unitID is not a good name for a font string if that's what it's representing |
| 18:05.19 | Semlar | or do you mean the actual value of unitID is the name of the variable |
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| 18:05.44 | Teazle | yes, the actual value |
| 18:06.09 | Semlar | you have a local variable called like "Player-123-45678" |
| 18:06.21 | Semlar | oh i'm thinking GUIDs, nevermind |
| 18:06.29 | Teazle | unitID = "target", my local variable is "target" |
| 18:06.49 | Semlar | if you make a table called unitIDs and put your variables into that as keys you can reference them that way |
| 18:06.52 | Teazle | target = CreateFontString() blaha |
| 18:07.09 | Semlar | like unitIDs = { target = CreateFontString() } |
| 18:07.20 | Semlar | you can reference it using unitIDs[unitID] |
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| 18:07.50 | Teazle | so if i have a table, i can use unitIDs[unitID]:SetText() |
| 18:07.59 | Semlar | yeah |
| 18:08.11 | Semlar | assuming that key exists |
| 18:08.30 | Teazle | huh, allright, i guess itll be like that, to bad there isnt like _L[]. for me atleast |
| 18:08.46 | Semlar | well you can make an _L table but it would be the same result |
| 18:08.58 | Teazle | yea, thats what _G[] is actually i guess |
| 18:09.32 | Teazle | allright, time to study tables then |
| 18:10.26 | Semlar | lua doesn't have dynamic variable names like some languages do |
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| 18:12.59 | Neffi | Teazle: Tables are the idiomatic way to do it. you'll find they really are quite nice. The global environment is just a table, which is what _G refers to |
| 18:13.43 | Neffi | packs Semlar into a table |
| 18:13.48 | Neffi | they can store *anything* |
| 18:13.59 | Teazle | yea, ive gathered as much about _G |
| 18:14.03 | Neffi | cackles maniacally. |
| 18:14.08 | Semlar | you can't keep me in here forever! |
| 18:14.18 | Neffi | nah, just til I get bored |
| 18:14.21 | foxlit | it's a weak table. |
| 18:14.37 | Neffi | so if we all forget about him, he disappears? |
| 18:14.42 | foxlit | though I suppose Neffi just has to kill all other references. |
| 18:14.58 | Neffi | kills foxlit |
| 18:15.11 | Semlar | what is dead may never die |
| 18:15.21 | smcn | we are the handclaps |
| 18:15.40 | Neffi | handclaps? o.O |
| 18:16.09 | Teazle | sooooo im guessing this "unitIDs = target = target:CreateFontString() }" will it create the fonstring AND add the variable to the table, or? |
| 18:16.26 | Teazle | 2nd target was menat to be something else |
| 18:17.14 | Semlar | i assume you intend to put more than one unit ID into the table |
| 18:17.39 | Teazle | yes |
| 18:18.30 | Semlar | aside from the missing opening bracket for the table, yeah |
| 18:18.31 | DJJeff | read the chat I passed 105% of mr funny DK's army of the dead |
| 18:18.32 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/zWDa7ku.jpg |
| 18:18.42 | DJJeff | I loled when I saw that |
| 18:19.17 | DJJeff | that was omen threat meter that does that |
| 18:19.25 | Semlar | you're creating a key in the table and assigning its value to whatever target:CreateFontString() does |
| 18:20.48 | Semlar | then unitIDs['target'] will reference that value |
| 18:23.23 | Semlar | i'm sure there's a better name for the table but use whatever makes sense in the context of the addon |
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| 18:24.23 | Teazle | lovely, that works nicely! |
| 18:24.31 | Teazle | array |
| 18:24.42 | Teazle | thank you! |
| 18:25.22 | DJJeff | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/broker-gg-socialstate |
| 18:25.24 | DJJeff | WOAH |
| 18:25.29 | DJJeff | someone fork socialstate? |
| 18:25.40 | DJJeff | its ok I like frenemy better anyways |
| 18:25.47 | DJJeff | X_X |
| 18:26.08 | DJJeff | lots of love for Torhal |
| 18:35.42 | Teazle | lovely, its working nicely. thank you! |
| 18:39.31 | Semlar | good |
| 18:44.42 | jleclanche | VIad: ping |
| 18:45.45 | DJJeff | goover was a former author and tester of factionizer? |
| 18:48.49 | DJJeff | lol I posted this in irc here and now someone made a ticket for it |
| 18:48.50 | DJJeff | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/tomtom/tickets/146-hacked-up-version-works-in-602-mostly/ |
| 18:49.03 | DJJeff | someone out there loves me <3 |
| 18:50.01 | Semlar | eh how broken could tomtom be |
| 18:50.58 | DJJeff | it has not been touched in over a year |
| 18:51.11 | DJJeff | just like my manhood |
| 18:51.16 | DJJeff | *drum hit* |
| 18:51.41 | Semlar | i doubt tomtom itself is broken |
| 18:51.48 | DJJeff | I know the authors of tom tom stated they are working on it |
| 18:51.53 | Semlar | you should be able to just swap out the libs that it's using |
| 18:51.58 | DJJeff | I did get like 6 to 7 lua errors on tom tom |
| 18:52.08 | Semlar | show me |
| 18:52.22 | DJJeff | hold on let me load up swatter and tomtom |
| 18:52.40 | Semlar | i could do it myself but i'm eating a sandwich |
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| 18:54.04 | DJJeff | https://bpaste.net/show/0095fa405773 |
| 18:54.35 | DJJeff | https://bpaste.net/show/9c1b25db9dcb |
| 18:54.56 | Semlar | oh i see it's hooked into the watch frame |
| 18:55.05 | DJJeff | https://bpaste.net/show/3d6abf61202c |
| 18:55.14 | DJJeff | that ones a big one |
| 18:55.44 | DJJeff | https://bpaste.net/show/4d71a9ee5a00 |
| 18:56.09 | DJJeff | and now the last one |
| 18:56.09 | DJJeff | https://bpaste.net/show/e1b5ad172ee6 |
| 18:56.14 | Semlar | GetAllMapIDs is from the map library which could probably be completely replaced |
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| 18:56.16 | DJJeff | so 5 errors in total |
| 18:56.54 | Semlar | so you just need to swap out astrolabe with the updated version |
| 18:57.01 | Semlar | and libmapdata |
| 18:57.14 | DJJeff | oh I lied |
| 18:57.15 | DJJeff | https://bpaste.net/show/f80f78455fdb |
| 18:57.19 | DJJeff | 6 errors |
| 18:57.32 | Semlar | that one's also from astrolabe |
| 18:57.44 | DJJeff | is there a copy of libmapdata and astrolabe ? |
| 18:57.50 | DJJeff | on curse? |
| 18:57.54 | Semlar | i know astrolabe has been updated |
| 18:57.55 | DJJeff | on wow-pro.com |
| 18:58.01 | Semlar | libmapdata is completely redundant |
| 18:58.05 | Semlar | i don't know why they're using it |
| 18:58.30 | DJJeff | ok I found astrolabe in curse client |
| 18:58.50 | Semlar | you'd still have to fix the error with the watch frame |
| 18:58.57 | DJJeff | and libmapdata-1.0 in curse client |
| 18:59.45 | Semlar | the first two errors i would have to look closer at |
| 18:59.58 | Semlar | they might have been fixed in that zip that that one person uploaded though |
| 19:00.03 | DJJeff | ok I deleted the 2 folders in tomtom lib folder |
| 19:00.28 | DJJeff | and installed the lasted libs right from curse client |
| 19:00.37 | DJJeff | gonna check for any errors now |
| 19:01.14 | Semlar | the POI integration and watch frame would still be throwing errors |
| 19:01.33 | DJJeff | ya |
| 19:01.44 | Semlar | is that it? |
| 19:02.03 | Semlar | or is it still complaining about the libraries |
| 19:02.10 | karl_w_w | oh so titan was completely cancelled? |
| 19:02.40 | DJJeff | hold up |
| 19:02.44 | Fisker | Yes |
| 19:03.04 | DJJeff | is this a new error? |
| 19:03.05 | DJJeff | https://bpaste.net/show/699e5d94bc0c |
| 19:03.20 | Semlar | that's from ace, ace3 has to be replaced |
| 19:03.29 | Semlar | well, i think |
| 19:03.50 | DJJeff | and this one |
| 19:03.50 | DJJeff | https://bpaste.net/show/1c60ef819bf2 |
| 19:04.18 | DJJeff | im running ace3 r1123 alpha |
| 19:05.12 | DJJeff | https://bpaste.net/show/330ab6a05d17 |
| 19:06.01 | Semlar | i should write my own tomtom |
| 19:06.19 | smcn | with waypoints, and flapjacks |
| 19:06.34 | Semlar | nah that's too much work, i have my own projects i need to finish |
| 19:07.14 | DJJeff | oh haha |
| 19:07.30 | DJJeff | I needed to copy the astrolabe folder from addons into tomtom lib folder |
| 19:07.36 | DJJeff | fixed the lua errors :) |
| 19:07.49 | Semlar | all of them? |
| 19:08.12 | Semlar | the poi stuff still needs to be fixed |
| 19:08.53 | DJJeff | alot of the errors are gone now |
| 19:09.49 | DJJeff | still no tom tom arrow |
| 19:09.57 | DJJeff | and I have 8 of 8 lua errors still |
| 19:10.22 | Semlar | how much does the hacked up version that guy uploaded work |
| 19:10.24 | DJJeff | watchframe and poi are errors 1 and 2 |
| 19:10.37 | DJJeff | I did not test the one from wow-pro |
| 19:10.45 | DJJeff | not sure I even trust it |
| 19:11.08 | Semlar | he just commented out the watch frame stuff so |
| 19:11.15 | Semlar | i'm wondering how functional it is |
| 19:11.17 | DJJeff | wow-pro will also work with carbonite addon which is a dead addon |
| 19:11.51 | DJJeff | could make a .diff file of tom tom and of the wow-pro version of tom tom |
| 19:11.59 | DJJeff | see what is changed |
| 19:12.42 | DJJeff | did people switch from using tom tom to using carbonite? |
| 19:12.48 | DJJeff | and then carbonite died |
| 19:12.58 | DJJeff | now we need to ressurect tom tom? |
| 19:13.35 | Semlar | isn't cladhaire jnwhiteh |
| 19:13.41 | Fisker | Yes |
| 19:13.52 | Semlar | he's probably busy |
| 19:13.54 | VIad | 1 ghost ore = 15 silver, 1 ghost bar = 1 silver |
| 19:13.56 | VIad | logic? |
| 19:14.11 | Constie | Ore has more potential utility. |
| 19:14.36 | VIad | but I put in a lot of work into making something, and it has less worth :p |
| 19:14.40 | DJJeff | does cladhaire have alot of projects going? |
| 19:14.55 | Semlar | he's the guy who runs wowprogramming.com |
| 19:16.37 | Semlar | looks like what's-his-face uploaded another copy of the wowpro version |
| 19:17.44 | DJJeff | of tomtom? |
| 19:17.57 | Semlar | on the page you linked |
| 19:18.13 | Semlar | in the last 10 minutes |
| 19:18.24 | DJJeff | they made a post about it |
| 19:18.25 | DJJeff | http://wow-pro.com/node/3606 |
| 19:18.37 | DJJeff | that was for oct 10 |
| 19:19.13 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.38 | Semlar | the watch frame hooks need to be updated to work with the new objectives tracker |
| 19:26.30 | Semlar | buuuut it looks like this guy is already attempting to tackle the job |
| 19:26.39 | DJJeff | ok so I used the wow-pro tom tom |
| 19:26.43 | DJJeff | and now I have an arror |
| 19:26.45 | DJJeff | arrow |
| 19:26.47 | DJJeff | on my screen |
| 19:26.53 | DJJeff | and 1 of 1 lua errors |
| 19:27.09 | Semlar | what's the problem |
| 19:27.22 | DJJeff | I think its unrelated to tom tom |
| 19:27.48 | Semlar | that version looks like it'll probably work until it's officially updated |
| 19:28.14 | DJJeff | oooooooooooooooo I hear lament of the highborne in the shrine of the seven stars |
| 19:28.32 | DJJeff | I love that song.... the queen in undercity plays it when you give back her ring |
| 19:28.53 | DJJeff | ok the only lua error I have now is for factionizer |
| 19:29.08 | DJJeff | which I might just trash I never use it |
| 19:29.25 | kd3 | eesh, a 15 minute queue for headless horseman? |
| 19:29.55 | DJJeff | oooooooooooo |
| 19:29.57 | Semlar | i think a lot of people don't even realize there's an option to queue for that kind of stuff |
| 19:30.00 | DJJeff | I have the horsements mount |
| 19:30.10 | DJJeff | horsemens mount |
| 19:30.24 | DJJeff | w/e I ish tired |
| 19:33.43 | DJJeff | I just queued for the headless thingy on my horde 90 |
| 19:33.54 | DJJeff | 6min queue |
| 19:37.17 | DJJeff | grrrrrrrrrrrrr wow-pro guides does not work on the candy buckets |
| 19:37.44 | DJJeff | I forget what addon I used back in WotLK to checklist all the candy buckets |
| 19:37.49 | VIad | woot? http://ss.bool.no/capture_1413661046.png |
| 19:38.10 | kd3 | CandyBuckets is the one I use |
| 19:38.12 | VIad | why is the crit same as normal? |
| 19:39.33 | VIad | nope |
| 19:39.37 | VIad | sorry :p |
| 19:39.47 | VIad | tested with low health |
| 19:39.49 | VIad | same numbers |
| 19:39.52 | VIad | so it's not an overheal issue |
| 19:40.26 | [TOM_RUS] | VIad, dc priest? they used to crit for absorb unless something changed in 6.0 |
| 19:40.35 | VIad | no I mean |
| 19:40.40 | VIad | oh |
| 19:41.05 | VIad | you mean they made it so the crits add shield |
| 19:41.06 | VIad | I see then |
| 19:41.09 | VIad | explains a lot more :p |
| 19:41.26 | VIad | first time on my priest today |
| 19:41.28 | jleclanche | VIad: yo |
| 19:41.31 | VIad | yo! |
| 19:41.37 | jleclanche | VIad: you're vladinator? |
| 19:41.40 | VIad | yes |
| 19:41.48 | Semlar | viadinator |
| 19:42.11 | jleclanche | VIad: you said you're updating candybuckets right? |
| 19:42.24 | jleclanche | (and cousins) |
| 19:42.41 | VIad | yeah I updated it just today |
| 19:42.48 | jleclanche | that explains that |
| 19:43.08 | VIad | 141018-2 is latest |
| 19:43.14 | VIad | had to hotfix one line of code :p |
| 19:43.27 | VIad | for now it works on minimum basis - showing where the buckets you haven't looted are |
| 19:44.20 | VIad | [TOM_RUS]: issues when you got all classes to 90 is you don't get all the changes at first :p |
| 19:44.59 | VIad | jleclanche: issues? |
| 19:45.09 | jleclanche | VIad: nah questions but for another time |
| 19:45.10 | jleclanche | anyone knows whats up with Rematch? |
| 19:46.50 | DJJeff | ok wow-pro has an in game guide for candy buckets |
| 19:47.07 | DJJeff | just need to check off the wall of info text |
| 19:48.43 | VIad | DJJeff: get candy buckets - made it to be easy to get the buckets ;p |
| 19:49.05 | DJJeff | does it have a check list that goes off when you get them? |
| 19:49.23 | DJJeff | or just blobs on the (mini)map |
| 19:49.47 | VIad | well |
| 19:49.49 | VIad | world map |
| 19:50.00 | VIad | continent view and zone view shows icons |
| 19:50.06 | DJJeff | oh this one claims to only show ones you dont have |
| 19:50.06 | DJJeff | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/handynotes_hallowsend |
| 19:50.08 | VIad | tracked by the quests internally |
| 19:50.30 | DJJeff | "This addon displays locations of unvisited candy buckets on the worldmap and minimap." |
| 19:56.29 | VIad | DJJeff: I of course recommend my own addon :P |
| 19:59.36 | DJJeff | heh |
| 19:59.41 | DJJeff | ./script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Music\\GlueScreenMusic\\BCCredits_Lament_of_the_Highborne.mp3") |
| 19:59.56 | DJJeff | damn great song |
| 20:26.17 | kd3 | bah, it'd be nice if CB would auto-open the handful and complete the quest, but oh well |
| 20:39.14 | Semlar | umm does the action button template not actually check for the loss of control cvars any more before displaying the spinner |
| 20:39.31 | Semlar | https://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/beta/FrameXML/ActionButton.lua#L456 i don't see anything here that would stop it from displaying |
| 20:41.31 | Semlar | unless it's supposed to change what GetActionLossOfControlCooldown returns |
| 20:44.32 | DJJeff | will this work when I inspect someone in my 5 man groups? |
| 20:44.33 | DJJeff | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/ilvlr |
| 20:44.40 | DJJeff | or just for my own toon |
| 20:45.55 | Semlar | you want us to read the description for you? |
| 20:46.33 | DJJeff | not sure how that compares with |
| 20:46.34 | DJJeff | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/easy-ilvl |
| 20:47.02 | DJJeff | well now that gearscore/playerscore is 100% broken |
| 20:47.19 | DJJeff | its hard to see ilvl of other players in a group quickly |
| 20:48.34 | DJJeff | time to roll on the floor |
| 20:48.34 | DJJeff | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/fake-achievement |
| 20:50.18 | DJJeff | I vote this as best name for an addon |
| 20:50.18 | DJJeff | www.curse.com/addons/wow/crossdresser |
| 20:50.25 | DJJeff | hehe |
| 20:51.09 | Elmoe | so I've been tracking down this odd bug since patch that only affect mac os x clients where their saved variables are not being persisted (addon settings reset on login/reload) |
| 20:51.29 | Elmoe | the problem only occurs on OS X and only when the character name has a special character in it |
| 20:51.32 | Constie | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7377-Examiner.html shows item levels. |
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| 21:00.22 | DJJeff | 487 comments? |
| 21:00.25 | DJJeff | good god |
| 21:09.45 | Teazle | question: how do i ask if this <not> that ? im used to if != but that isnt accepted |
| 21:10.15 | Semlar | ~= |
| 21:10.36 | Semlar | or if not this == that |
| 21:10.52 | foxlit | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2 |
| 21:13.00 | DJJeff | when I switch realms and click disable addons nothing happens |
| 21:13.13 | DJJeff | I think this is a major bug that needs to be addressed and fixed |
| 21:13.44 | DJJeff | and it says "custom" at the top instead of "all" or any of my toon names |
| 21:13.45 | Semlar | yeah it's broken as hell |
| 21:14.02 | Semlar | you can disable them from the in-game interface |
| 21:14.11 | DJJeff | oh? |
| 21:14.22 | Neffi | <Semlar> or if not this == that <- this is not correct |
| 21:14.30 | Neffi | incorrect precedence |
| 21:14.38 | Semlar | if not (this == that) |
| 21:14.42 | Neffi | aye |
| 21:14.51 | Neffi | `if not {} == {} then --[[ NOT executed ]] end |
| 21:15.01 | DJJeff | not even sure why they even updated the addon list screen after you choose the realm |
| 21:15.10 | DJJeff | it looks super ugly now |
| 21:15.12 | Semlar | to add a very annoying prompt |
| 21:15.28 | Neffi | really best off not using this form because it could lead to a hard-to-catch bug if you forget some parens |
| 21:15.48 | Semlar | don't not tell me what not to do |
| 21:15.54 | DJJeff | even addon tooltips on the addon list only use 1 line |
| 21:16.02 | DJJeff | so super long tooltips cut off |
| 21:16.08 | Neffi | Semlar: don't not tell me not to tell you what to do |
| 21:16.29 | Teazle | if not (t == x) ty |
| 21:16.36 | Neffi | wtf did I just say |
| 21:16.39 | Semlar | no no use t ~= x |
| 21:16.44 | Neffi | Teazle: if t ~= x then |
| 21:17.08 | Semlar | and read the lua manual |
| 21:17.15 | Neffi | yeah, that to |
| 21:17.22 | Neffi | o*. now I skidoo |
| 21:17.36 | Semlar | to the speakeasy? |
| 21:17.46 | Neffi | close. to the shower |
| 21:19.29 | DJJeff | yaaaaaaaaaaay sylvanaar just updated ACP :) |
| 21:19.33 | DJJeff | addon control panel |
| 21:19.52 | DJJeff | is that even needed now with the built in addon thingy |
| 21:20.12 | DJJeff | actually ya |
| 21:20.20 | DJJeff | ACP is better cause you can have addon sets |
| 21:20.24 | DJJeff | based on class |
| 21:20.49 | DJJeff | blizzard should use ACP as a great example |
| 21:21.25 | kd3 | the default version works as a base-line. that way there's still plenty of room for mods to do the more advanced stuff |
| 21:22.33 | Simca | addon sets aren't really that critical unless your setup is incredibly specific |
| 21:22.43 | Simca | the builitin one is good enough for most cases |
| 21:24.19 | DJJeff | I just love what sylv has done with ACP |
| 21:24.41 | sylvanaar | i just fixed ACP for live, it was really broken sorry about that |
| 21:25.33 | sylvanaar | So, if you have 10-15 addons, the default is plenty good |
| 21:25.50 | kd3 | heh, I've got the time traveling buff for blasted lands, but theramore's in a neither here-nor-there state. doodads/npcs are present, but the terrain is not |
| 21:25.59 | sylvanaar | But if you have standalone libraries and the whole 9 yards, ACP is still a bit better |
| 21:26.06 | Constie | I'd definitely like the default to have a search box. |
| 21:29.01 | sylvanaar | Originally, ACP was going to be part of a larger addon management system I had planned back when I was developing WAU - just never panned out |
| 21:29.15 | sylvanaar | I want the game to stop telling me I have too many addons |
| 21:29.41 | sylvanaar | That is a bit obnoxious |
| 21:32.37 | kd3 | oops: https://twitter.com/Kaydeethree/status/523587384945160192 |
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| 21:43.31 | Semlar | sylvanaar: what does the game consider to be too many addons |
| 21:45.31 | Simca | 172 |
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| 21:48.17 | foxlit | that's oddly specific. |
| 21:48.23 | Simca | i agree |
| 21:48.36 | Simca | but that is what the game told me earlier |
| 21:48.47 | Simca | "addonIndex must be a number between 1 and 172" |
| 21:49.12 | DJJeff | sylvanaar I have like 108 addons :) and I love ACP |
| 21:49.32 | Simca | unless the error message uses a replacement string there |
| 21:49.41 | foxlit | and you're sure that range isn't simply a reflection of the number of addons you do have? |
| 21:49.42 | Simca | which is entirely possible, i just don't think i was running that many addons |
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| 21:49.55 | Simca | maybe half that |
| 21:50.09 | foxlit | "must be in the range of 1 to 33" for me. |
| 21:50.41 | Simca | i guess it includes every addon it can see, regardless of whether or not it is active |
| 21:50.52 | Simca | i might have had 172 in the interface/addons/ directory |
| 21:51.08 | DJJeff | ohhhhhhhhhh sylvanaar now I you are online |
| 21:51.28 | DJJeff | I wonder about WIM (WoW Instant Messenger) |
| 21:51.38 | DJJeff | when I am in a zone local defense |
| 21:51.59 | DJJeff | it says such and such an area is under attack I think wim shows a funky message instead |
| 21:52.20 | DJJeff | dunno if thats been reported yet |
| 21:52.53 | DJJeff | I still use and love flat panel wim skin |
| 21:54.49 | sylvanaar | hmm, I just took over maintenance of WIM from pazza when he quit, all credit goes to him, and MysticalOS has been the real maintainer since I stopped playing wow |
| 21:56.01 | DJJeff | ah |
| 21:56.25 | DJJeff | there was once during WotLK a bunch of wim skins being made |
| 21:56.40 | DJJeff | now they all dead |
| 21:56.52 | DJJeff | so I stick with flat panel basic one |
| 22:01.58 | foxlit | "Uniq-WOWGUID_SCRIPT_TARGET_NONE" |
| 22:02.36 | foxlit | apparently you can mouse over that, whatever it is. |
| 22:04.23 | DJJeff | talentui error with 0 addons loaded? |
| 22:04.24 | DJJeff | https://bpaste.net/show/9f35a9d70af0 |
| 22:07.30 | DJJeff | I might report that to blizzard in a ticket |
| 22:16.42 | foxlit | if dissmissing a pet had an icon, how would that look like? |
| 22:17.10 | kullervo | a hand pointing away |
| 22:18.23 | Neffi | apparently it would look like spell_nature_spiritwolf |
| 22:19.00 | Constie | Yeah, that: http://www.wowhead.com/spell=2641 |
| 22:19.23 | Neffi | it's a terrible icon though |
| 22:19.24 | foxlit | a little hunter-specific. |
| 22:19.32 | kd3 | oh vlad, bug report, there's no candy bucket on aldor rise |
| 22:19.53 | VIad | where was aldor rise? |
| 22:19.54 | VIad | ah |
| 22:19.58 | VIad | scryer/aldor |
| 22:19.59 | kd3 | or scryer's tier |
| 22:20.05 | VIad | you need to pic faction |
| 22:20.06 | VIad | pick* |
| 22:20.07 | VIad | :p |
| 22:20.12 | kullervo | Neffi: even for a spirit wolf that's a terrible icon, looks too feline |
| 22:20.15 | kd3 | the character I'm on is scryers. it's not in the inn |
| 22:20.39 | VIad | mm |
| 22:20.44 | VIad | last time you had to pick faction |
| 22:20.47 | VIad | and it was flagged done :/ |
| 22:20.49 | VIad | well |
| 22:20.55 | foxlit | Hm, I thought they were going to remove the dismiss ability? |
| 22:20.58 | VIad | maybe IsQuestComplete bugs ;p |
| 22:21.09 | kd3 | oh, wait, there it is |
| 22:21.25 | kd3 | ok then, the scryer one isn't on the map |
| 22:21.38 | kd3 | 56.2,81.8 shattrath for scryers |
| 22:22.14 | foxlit | heh, the warlock one is instant and ability-less. Maybe they hate hunters in particular because their summon is instant. |
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| 22:26.36 | kd3 | bleh. I fly in to smv and my first thought is 'what the hell did they change?' too used to the warlords version, I guess |
| 22:27.51 | Constie | I realized after scrolling around and finding it that I don't have an icon selector addon that shows the filename, but there is this one: http://i.imgur.com/HD4PXMq.png |
| 22:28.41 | Constie | I'm sure it is or was used for something pet-related, but I can't remember what. |
| 22:28.47 | foxlit | Constie: http://wowpedia.org/Sacrifice |
| 22:29.00 | Constie | Yeah, that. |
| 22:32.43 | foxlit | hunting for icons is one of my least favorite pastimes :( |
| 22:32.57 | foxlit | also need an orange/silver/white world marker. |
| 22:38.02 | Constie | Do the default circle, moon, and skull not work, or are you talking about something else? |
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| 22:40.08 | foxlit | I'd rather not reuse them, as they're already used for target markers |
| 22:42.48 | DJJeff | people still use tidyplates nameplate addon? |
| 22:43.08 | kullervo | DJJeff: I do |
| 22:46.21 | DJJeff | I uninstalled that back in cata I might try it out again |
| 22:57.51 | Primer | 1x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn 'WeakAuras' tried to call the protected function 'OverrideActionBarButton2:Show()'. |
| 22:58.00 | Primer | This is still that bogus taint stuff? |
| 22:58.06 | Primer | Where a random addon gets blamed? |
| 23:00.46 | Neffi | probably |
| 23:00.47 | foxlit | Generally, no taint stuff is bogus. |
| 23:00.49 | Neffi | that will never go away |
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| 23:01.10 | foxlit | Whoever it is blaming is probably responsible for... something. |
| 23:01.32 | Neffi | yeah, that's true |
| 23:01.57 | foxlit | that something very likely isn't actual exploitative behavior, but the message is still a consequence of their code. |
| 23:02.35 | Neffi | which may just be caling a framexml-defined functions |
| 23:02.49 | Primer | Why will it never go away? |
| 23:03.34 | Neffi | because it's a consequence of something real |
| 23:03.53 | Primer | Yet a random addon is still blamed? |
| 23:03.59 | Arrowmaster | its not random |
| 23:04.01 | Primer | Why can't the real cause be identified? |
| 23:04.18 | Neffi | foxlit just pointed out that, if something is being blamed, it did something wrong |
| 23:05.04 | Primer | It was my understanding that the addon being blamed in the error was not the culprit |
| 23:05.08 | kullervo | so the addon system is like a police state? :) |
| 23:05.36 | Neffi | define culprit |
| 23:06.02 | Primer | Ok, WTF... |
| 23:06.20 | Primer | 1x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn 'WeakAuras' tried to call the protected function 'OverrideActionBarButton2:Show()'. |
| 23:06.27 | Neffi | if that message appears, then somewhere along the line the addon being blamed caused a value to get tagged as tainted, and then a secure execution path hit that value |
| 23:06.35 | Neffi | it's not really easy to diagnose |
| 23:07.22 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/markers.jpg << behold, the ransom note ring. |
| 23:07.23 | Primer | My understanding was that it was not necessarily the addon being blamed, in this case Weak Auras, that was the "culplrit" |
| 23:07.23 | Neffi | or rather caused a variable to store a value that was tainted, or whatever |
| 23:07.28 | Arrowmaster | in that specific example blizzards code is trying to call OverrideActionBarButton2:Show() but something before it has been tainted by WeakAuras, its not that hard to track down the cause with a taint.log |
| 23:07.35 | Primer | Or do you need the definition of the word culprit? |
| 23:08.14 | Semlar | weak auras is tainting something, somewhere, which is why it's being blamed |
| 23:08.25 | foxlit | Primer: Or do you need the definition of the word culprit? << that would indeed be helpful. |
| 23:09.11 | kullervo | foxlit: fire, void and ice world markers? |
| 23:09.26 | Semlar | captain planet? |
| 23:09.30 | foxlit | "orange", "silver", and "white" |
| 23:09.52 | foxlit | why silver is pale purple is a mystery to everyone. |
| 23:09.59 | kullervo | wait they actually added new colours didn't they |
| 23:10.30 | Gethe | yup |
| 23:10.44 | Gethe | skull moon circle |
| 23:39.58 | zenzelezz | "TwitPic's deleting 800M photos next Saturday, as founder @noaheverett's ignores every offer to cover costs and blocks all rescue attempts" |
| 23:40.16 | zenzelezz | were people expecting them to be online perpetually? I always considered it a temporary hosting |
| 23:40.23 | fewyn | probably |
| 23:42.09 | foxlit | even bigger mystery: why is there an 's in there? |
| 23:48.10 | zenzelezz | it's twitter, there are spurious "'s" in every third tweet |
| 23:52.41 | foxlit | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/opie/tickets/73-opie-compatibility-with-6-02/ << and thus ends an accepted ticket streak of 4. |
| 23:53.07 | foxlit | (curiously, safari is refusing to recognize a three finger swipe left/right in all but one window. Makes no bloody sense) |
| 23:55.39 | smcn | eternal kiln is a textureless cube and i'm too lazy to bug report it |
