| 00:02.13 | DJJeff | has no one ever suggested to blizzard to give addons their own volume thingy |
| 00:13.12 | Jamash | no |
| 00:13.22 | Jamash | the addon writer can do it themselves |
| 00:14.13 | Neffi | Jamash: can they? I see no way to play a sound at lower volume |
| 00:14.47 | Jamash | can't they? |
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| 00:14.59 | Jamash | I may have made an unwarranted assumption |
| 00:15.49 | Semlar | you can mute everything and adjust the sound on the channel your addon is playing on |
| 00:16.36 | Jamash | in other news, what the eff http://www.gamesradar.com/dreamcast-saturn-and-mega-drive-all-attending-high-school-yes-theres-actually-anime/ |
| 00:16.40 | Semlar | you can't have JUST your addon change volume though |
| 00:17.51 | karl_w_w | I crack myself up sometimes http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2jfg1y/dreamleague_forcing_teams_to_play_with_standins/clb8l64 (last reply) |
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| 00:25.16 | DJJeff | like for example an ingame mp3 player that has its own dedicated volume |
| 00:25.38 | DJJeff | that does not keep resetting when you enter/exit a dungeon |
| 00:30.04 | Neffi | I still don't understand why anyone would want an ingame mp3 player |
| 00:30.21 | DJJeff | its not my main point |
| 00:30.49 | DJJeff | just saying addons that play sounds or music should have a dedicated volume |
| 00:30.56 | Neffi | but yeah, the sound API isn't just lacking. it downright sucks |
| 00:31.03 | DJJeff | instead of playing over "soundfx" or "music" |
| 00:31.26 | DJJeff | that should have been done back in WotLK |
| 00:31.52 | DJJeff | and just now they decide to give dialog its own dedicated volume |
| 00:32.06 | foxlit | in-game mp3 players are a bit silly. |
| 00:32.12 | DJJeff | that too should have been done back in WotLK |
| 00:32.21 | DJJeff | or sooner |
| 00:32.59 | DJJeff | when the music and soundfx suck you want to only hear dialog or addon sounds |
| 00:33.51 | TC-Work | Is google down for anyone? |
| 00:34.03 | DJJeff | nope just you |
| 00:34.36 | DJJeff | http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/google.com |
| 00:34.42 | DJJeff | says its up and online |
| 00:34.44 | Neffi | well I googled "is google down" and it worked fine |
| 00:35.39 | DJJeff | a great example is when deadly boss mods does "run away little girl run away" |
| 00:35.45 | DJJeff | I find that too loud |
| 00:35.56 | TC-Work | Huh, can't ping it but now I can reach it. |
| 00:36.22 | Neffi | can't ping google.com? dns hiccup? |
| 00:36.25 | DJJeff | Pinging google.com [173.194.33.101] with 32 bytes of data: |
| 00:36.27 | DJJeff | Reply from 173.194.33.101: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=56 |
| 00:40.40 | TC-Work | Very weird shit going down on our network. |
| 00:42.51 | DJJeff | your network got hijacked |
| 00:43.07 | TC-Work | Unlikely. |
| 00:43.08 | DJJeff | run a trace route and check where your packets are going |
| 00:43.39 | DJJeff | "tracert" windows and "traceroute" linux/apple |
| 00:43.44 | TC-Work | ... |
| 00:43.58 | TC-Work | Must have been a hiccup. |
| 00:45.34 | Jamash | so I found the BMAH for the first time ever |
| 00:45.42 | Jamash | ...and madam goya has left for draenor :| |
| 00:51.10 | DJJeff | black market auction house? |
| 00:51.16 | DJJeff | does one even exist? |
| 00:51.24 | Neffi | o.O |
| 00:51.25 | Neffi | yes? |
| 00:51.35 | End | yes, but it's not accessible right now |
| 00:51.40 | Neffi | it's on that mountain path between Valley and Kun'Lai |
| 00:51.49 | Neffi | i think |
| 00:51.49 | DJJeff | oh? |
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| 00:51.57 | DJJeff | is the npc on wowhead.com ? |
| 00:51.58 | End | that one closed (so I hear) and you have to go to draenor now |
| 00:52.01 | Neffi | we're... talking about wow, right? |
| 00:52.02 | End | except you can't :P |
| 00:52.06 | Neffi | Ah, I see |
| 00:52.06 | End | (yet) |
| 00:52.09 | kd3 | the bmah is closed |
| 00:52.12 | kd3 | it'll reopen in a month |
| 00:56.45 | DJJeff | my traceroute to google.com seems to go through the NSA should I be scared? |
| 00:57.16 | fewyn | no it's perfectly normal |
| 00:57.23 | fewyn | perfectly normal |
| 01:09.43 | DJJeff | https://s3.amazonaws.com/WoW-Pro/Ludo_Ace_and_TomTom_for_WoD_2014_1010.zip |
| 01:09.46 | DJJeff | hrmmmmmm |
| 01:09.53 | DJJeff | worth a test? |
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| 01:36.40 | DJJeff | this just dropped for me |
| 01:36.41 | DJJeff | http://wod.wowhead.com/item=118675/time-locked-box |
| 01:36.48 | DJJeff | after killing 4 ogres |
| 01:36.58 | DJJeff | for the quest |
| 01:37.09 | DJJeff | going for 8000gold on my realms ah |
| 01:37.14 | kd3 | lucky bastard. I've got like 300 kills so far |
| 01:37.22 | DJJeff | heh |
| 01:37.36 | DJJeff | should I keep it or put it up on ah |
| 01:38.30 | kd3 | sell it, you'll get another after the price goes down |
| 01:38.32 | DJJeff | meh ill keep it... gold is gold but pets are better |
| 01:39.48 | DJJeff | omg its tiny |
| 01:39.55 | DJJeff | *sigh* |
| 01:41.29 | DJJeff | I need a pet cookie to make it larger |
| 01:45.39 | karl_w_w | goodnight mister tom is considered such a great movie, but the kid in it is an absolutely terrible actor |
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| 01:54.55 | DJJeff | this one 404's ? |
| 01:54.56 | DJJeff | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/lil-sparkys-workshop |
| 01:55.07 | DJJeff | did it move to wow interface? |
| 01:55.12 | DJJeff | or change its name? |
| 01:57.10 | DJJeff | nvm found it on wowace |
| 01:57.11 | DJJeff | http://www.wowace.com/addons/lil-sparkys-workshop/ |
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| 02:09.42 | DJJeff | OMG OMG OMG OMG |
| 02:09.43 | DJJeff | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/frenemy |
| 02:09.50 | DJJeff | I think I just jizzed my pants |
| 02:10.10 | DJJeff | bye bye socialstate |
| 02:13.27 | Siku_ | That's an interesting guild note Torhal has :p |
| 02:16.20 | Thunder_Child | People always like to make themselves look better, |
| 02:16.24 | Thunder_Child | s/,/./ |
| 02:17.19 | DJJeff | yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay RSA is updated :) |
| 02:18.05 | Siku_ | RSA? |
| 02:18.21 | DJJeff | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/rsa |
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| 02:22.37 | DJJeff | atlas addon has a small error |
| 02:22.38 | DJJeff | https://bpaste.net/show/fe24d101f6bc |
| 02:23.25 | DJJeff | I hardly use atlas anymore since wotlk |
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| 02:45.09 | Ressy | MysticalOS, how do you turn off guild raid notifications when you're not in the raid? |
| 02:46.07 | Ressy | Not in my guild's raid group, but getting all the DBM notifications.. and frankly its annoying |
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| 02:52.56 | kd3 | whee, a 3 hour SoO run post-patch |
| 02:53.07 | kd3 | not bad for dealing with addon bullshit all night |
| 02:54.15 | MysticalOS | in options |
| 02:54.24 | MysticalOS | i did fix a bug where it was alerting for non guild groups |
| 02:54.32 | MysticalOS | but for guild groups just disable it |
| 02:54.43 | MysticalOS | it's under general messages |
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| 03:14.39 | kullervo | kd3: mythic? |
| 03:15.07 | kd3 | nah, heroic, but still, that's fast for us |
| 03:16.14 | Gragagrogog | we did mythic in ~4.5 hours, its mostly a joke... u can solo heal some boses |
| 03:16.23 | kullervo | I was there on heroic earlier today... bosses were dying in <2 minutes, lolol |
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| 03:18.02 | Gragagrogog | mythic siegecrafter 1:34 kill.... most others took 4 minutes, garosh 6 |
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| 03:27.34 | Ironi | http://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/5# |
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| 03:27.55 | Ironi | the kill times are getting abit too fast for my taste |
| 03:28.14 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: You going to grab a new iMac? |
| 03:28.30 | kd3 | whee, up to 572 now |
| 03:28.32 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: To rip the display off and use it on my pro? |
| 03:28.36 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: no, iâll wait 8-) |
| 03:28.50 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: Iâll probably get a new ipad tho, my original retina one is showing its age |
| 03:29.05 | Ironi | imo the bosses were fine even before the nerfs, we didn't have any problems with any of the bosses, even with few shitty geared alts in the raid |
| 03:29.28 | Ironi | tho spoils was really buggy |
| 03:29.29 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: Somehow I bet the new iMac is equal to your pro. |
| 03:29.43 | Thunder_Child | At least at the $4.4K level. |
| 03:30.38 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: I dont think so |
| 03:30.53 | Thunder_Child | New pro? |
| 03:31.06 | Iriel | The garbage can one. |
| 03:31.17 | Thunder_Child | Ah |
| 03:31.37 | Thunder_Child | I keep thinking the iMacs have the new 9xxm cards, which would push it up there. |
| 03:31.47 | Iriel | It beats up my old pro pretty effectively tho. |
| 03:31.56 | Iriel | The new iMac: Configurable to AMD Radeon R9 M295X with 4GB of GDDR5 memory. |
| 03:32.24 | Iriel | Garbage Can Pro: 2 x AMD FirePro D700 with 6GB |
| 03:33.08 | Thunder_Child | Point. |
| 03:33.14 | Iriel | You did just remind me, time to install yosemite on something |
| 03:34.20 | Iriel | I did have a moment when I saw the news of the iPad this morning where I looked for a 5K standalone monitor |
| 03:34.21 | Iriel | but I guess apple hate us |
| 03:35.26 | Thunder_Child | You wouldn't be ther first person to say that. |
| 03:35.28 | Shadowed | aughhh |
| 03:35.35 | Shadowed | why did blizzard break the child frame alpha for cooldowns |
| 03:35.36 | Shadowed | :| |
| 03:35.54 | Thunder_Child | You didn't have enough to do. |
| 03:37.28 | MysticalOS | the new imac is a mistake. they should have used 980m |
| 03:37.34 | MysticalOS | or 980mx2sli |
| 03:37.43 | MysticalOS | those gpus won't have power to push 5k for anything but facebook |
| 03:37.55 | MysticalOS | more garbage desktop hardware from apple :) |
| 03:37.59 | Thunder_Child | Yea, but this stuff was already in the pipeline before nvidia anounced the new stuff. |
| 03:38.11 | Thunder_Child | announced* |
| 03:54.08 | Fisker | it prevents updates karl_w_w |
| 03:56.37 | Torhal | [21:16:20] <Thunder_Child> People always like to make themselves look better, <-- I'm not, nor ever have been, an officer in my guild. Someone else set that note. :P |
| 04:00.49 | karl_w_w | thanks Fisker |
| 04:00.53 | karl_w_w | I love you Fisker |
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| 04:04.17 | Shadowed | Torhal! |
| 04:04.22 | Shadowed | I think the packager broke again :( |
| 04:04.44 | Torhal | looks. |
| 04:05.25 | Torhal | Shadowed: I see Mage Candy and SUF in the queue. |
| 04:05.40 | Shadowed | weird it's been in the queue for like |
| 04:05.41 | Shadowed | 20 minutes |
| 04:05.53 | Torhal | It's done now. |
| 04:06.14 | Torhal | Well, considering the fact that it takes five damn minutes to package ARL alone, and we're still getting post-patch updates... |
| 04:06.21 | Shadowed | look |
| 04:06.22 | Shadowed | I blame you |
| 04:06.23 | Shadowed | ^_^ |
| 04:06.28 | Torhal | Nope. ckk |
| 04:06.38 | Shadowed | I gave up blaming ckk |
| 04:06.40 | Shadowed | that's like yelling at the wind |
| 04:06.47 | Torhal | Doesn't do you any good anyway. |
| 04:06.49 | Torhal | Yah |
| 04:07.17 | Torhal | Anywho, when we transition to the new platform, it'll be better. Already have a ground-up new packager that serves WildStar at the moment. |
| 04:07.27 | Shadowed | that's what they said about the new wowace skin! |
| 04:07.43 | Torhal | You mean "new" as in 2008? |
| 04:07.52 | Torhal | That was done without the benefit of an actual designer. :D |
| 04:14.32 | Shirik | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHD22hqiDGU |
| 04:20.55 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 04:21.06 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 04:21.23 | Fisker | This poor hearthstone bot was all like "WTF, Baron Rivendare, what does this card do" |
| 04:22.01 | Fisker | It wanted to drop dread infernal |
| 04:23.06 | Fisker | And because it only calculated it as one damage it lost an attack and then the minion when it went to summon a dread infernal |
| 04:23.11 | Fisker | that's kind of funny |
| 04:45.29 | Mr_Rabies | so there's no way to intercept inputs for say, stance bars and use those for something else, is there? or can you double bind things somehow? :o |
| 04:45.52 | Mr_Rabies | want to be able to rebind my hunter aspects to my old input keys but i use account-wide bindings |
| 04:46.02 | Mr_Rabies | (on the stance buttons) |
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| 04:53.55 | Mr_Rabies | welp we're back to low pop |
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| 04:54.42 | Stanzilla | and here, too |
| 04:54.43 | Stanzilla | Samsung is releasing a new firmware and performance restoration software package for the 840 EVO and 840 EVO mSATA. |
| 04:54.44 | Stanzilla | The firmware update is recommended to users who may have experienced any drop in read performance of the mentioned drives. http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/samsungssd/downloads/Samsung_SSD840EVO_Performance_Restoration.zip |
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| 05:34.25 | Shadowed | http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/2jhlzv/psa_elvui_has_a_backdoor_and_how_to_remove_it/ I am laughing super hard right now |
| 05:35.02 | Sintacks | Message: ...terface\AddOns\Blizzard_MacroUI\Blizzard_MacroUI.lua line 101: |
| 05:35.02 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:35.05 | Sintacks | wat |
| 05:41.01 | Dagmar | It's like a stripper, but sluttier. |
| 05:45.25 | Sintacks | lol Shadowed |
| 05:45.33 | Sintacks | that's pretty fucked up really |
| 05:46.58 | kd3 | alright, email to abuse sent. curious how long it's going to take to wind up in badaddons |
| 05:47.12 | Shadowed | kd3 friend is already raising it internally |
| 05:47.16 | Shadowed | so probably not very long |
| 05:47.25 | Shadowed | given the code has been there for 1.5 years |
| 05:47.32 | kd3 | ! |
| 05:47.52 | Shadowed | I know right |
| 05:47.54 | Shadowed | checked git blame |
| 05:48.05 | Sintacks | upvoted Shadowed'd comment so it's visable |
| 05:49.17 | Neffi | ... wow |
| 05:49.35 | Torhal | Yes, Neffi - this is WoW. |
| 05:49.36 | Torhal | :D |
| 05:49.43 | Neffi | ~lart Torhal |
| 05:49.43 | purl | calls Torhal on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 05:49.55 | Neffi | also hi Torhal |
| 05:49.59 | Torhal | Aloha |
| 05:50.03 | DJJeff | hi Torhal :) |
| 05:50.06 | Torhal | Hola |
| 05:50.15 | Sintacks | hi Torhal |
| 05:50.20 | Torhal | Ermagherd. |
| 05:50.41 | DJJeff | Torhal, could you give broker_currency a toc nudge |
| 05:50.51 | DJJeff | because it still works in 6.0 |
| 05:50.58 | Torhal | DJJeff: Needs more than that. Like, currency updates :) |
| 05:51.05 | Torhal | I'll check it out tomorrow or Saturday. |
| 05:51.38 | DJJeff | also frenemy is cool |
| 05:51.44 | Torhal | Thankye :) |
| 05:51.48 | DJJeff | I checked it out because socialstate died |
| 05:52.39 | DJJeff | the author of socialstate likes you ;-) |
| 05:53.07 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 05:53.12 | DJJeff | it said so on his page somewhere |
| 05:54.42 | DJJeff | can frenemy only show the numbers on my panel? and take out the words |
| 05:55.00 | Torhal | I'll be making it customizable. |
| 05:55.05 | Torhal | Just been busy :/ |
| 05:55.06 | DJJeff | awesome |
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| 05:55.10 | DJJeff | no problem |
| 05:55.23 | DJJeff | it looks nicer compared with socialstate |
| 05:55.37 | DJJeff | just takes up alot of room on my panel |
| 05:55.45 | Torhal | Except that apparently the text is too small and has a dumb font. Whatever that means. :D |
| 05:56.20 | Torhal | Alrighty, bedtime. |
| 05:56.25 | Torhal | Have fun, folks. |
| 05:57.12 | DJJeff | hehe |
| 05:57.17 | DJJeff | too small? |
| 05:58.24 | DJJeff | damn hate it when instances restart |
| 05:58.39 | DJJeff | because of the D/C |
| 06:04.23 | Sintacks | yay. i got SacriRaidBuffed fixed. |
| 06:04.46 | Sintacks | now to figure out how to change hte order of the buttons... |
| 06:24.29 | Sintacks | for i=1,f.n do |
| 06:24.31 | Sintacks | wat |
| 06:25.55 | Sintacks | f.n = NUM_LE_RAID_BUFF_TYPES |
| 06:25.56 | Sintacks | o |
| 06:25.57 | Sintacks | k |
| 06:25.58 | Sintacks | now i get it |
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| 06:35.44 | karl_w_w | http://edition.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/03/12/short.sleepers.daylight/ lucky bastards |
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| 06:39.40 | Sintacks | fuck it. i'll look at it tomorrow. need lseep |
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| 06:43.13 | Constie | Le epic raid buff types. |
| 06:46.06 | Mr_Rabies | le le le le le le |
| 07:00.19 | DJJeff | I enjoy the raidbuffstatus addon |
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| 07:39.38 | Constie | I made http://pastebin.com/bvFLAkAG to automatically set a frame's parent to my PitBull target frame when I log in. It's been working for me so far, but is it guaranteed to always work? Could it happen that IsAddOnLoaded("PitBull4") returns true before PitBull has created all its frames, and the SetParent then executes too early and fails? |
| 07:40.56 | karl_w_w | it depends how pitbull creates its frames |
| 07:42.06 | karl_w_w | if it happens as the lua is executed then they will always be there, if some frames wait for an event or onupdate or something then there is a chance they won't be ready |
| 07:43.32 | karl_w_w | I think you could just check that the frame exists |
| 07:43.43 | karl_w_w | but I'm not smart enough to know how or if that's true |
| 07:44.07 | Constie | Yeah, I just thought of and tested that, and it seems to work. "if PitBull4_Frames_target ~= nil". |
| 07:44.59 | karl_w_w | eventhorizon is your addon? |
| 07:45.22 | Constie | Not as in it's authored by me, no. |
| 07:45.43 | karl_w_w | i mean that's the addon this code is in |
| 07:46.20 | Constie | No, this is by itself as its own addon, so EventHorizon updates won't break it. |
| 07:46.44 | karl_w_w | ah' |
| 07:50.34 | Mr_Rabies | is there a detailed guide on how the new lockout system works for each difficulty? |
| 07:51.50 | nevcairiel | there is only two systems |
| 07:51.57 | nevcairiel | mythic uses the classic id lockout |
| 07:52.13 | Mr_Rabies | is there any way to start say, normal on a specific wing? |
| 07:52.16 | Mr_Rabies | or is it all or nothing? |
| 07:52.38 | nevcairiel | if you have someone that has already killed bosses 1 - X, give him lead, and you will start on X+1 |
| 07:52.41 | nevcairiel | other then that, no |
| 07:52.51 | Mr_Rabies | eesh |
| 07:53.03 | Mr_Rabies | hopefully the raids are designed with that in mind |
| 07:53.11 | Mr_Rabies | doing a whole SoO pug is basically impossible |
| 07:53.40 | Constie | I think I've heard they're supposed to be (and also it would be weird if they weren't). |
| 07:53.55 | Mr_Rabies | maybe they'll be splitting each raid tier into multiple raids to compensate |
| 07:54.01 | nevcairiel | before flex, all we did was run into the raid and do it front to back |
| 07:54.06 | nevcairiel | its not like its such a new idea |
| 07:54.18 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, but splitting into wings is a much improved method |
| 07:54.25 | Mr_Rabies | for pugs, especially |
| 07:54.55 | nevcairiel | they did however say that new raids will have flexibility, doors you can use to skip bosses, maybe not all, but some |
| 07:55.09 | nevcairiel | but no external wings as such |
| 07:55.22 | Mr_Rabies | well they're also not giant sprawling 14-boss dungeons |
| 07:55.25 | Mr_Rabies | so that's a big plus |
| 07:55.58 | nevcairiel | blackrock foundry has 13 bosses |
| 07:56.15 | karl_w_w | big raids are better |
| 07:56.21 | karl_w_w | well |
| 07:56.25 | nevcairiel | oh, technically only 10 encounters, it counted some separate |
| 07:56.29 | karl_w_w | they have their own advantages |
| 07:57.35 | Constie | They could do it like e.g. Black Temple, where there's a central room with several paths to bosses that you can take in whatever order you want. |
| 07:57.38 | Constie | Just not completely linear. |
| 07:57.57 | nevcairiel | thats more likely, yes |
| 07:57.58 | Ironii | blackrock foundry is exactly like that |
| 07:58.15 | nevcairiel | may still need to kill everything before end boss unlocks tho |
| 07:58.22 | nevcairiel | not sure how that is exactly |
| 07:58.24 | Ironii | well, highmaul too, kinda atleast |
| 07:58.33 | Constie | Oh, there is that, yeah. |
| 07:59.18 | DJJeff | the new blasted lands quest chain you get the pet at the end I did both horde and aliance now I have 2 pets |
| 07:59.31 | Ironii | in highmaul you have to kill the first boss and after that you can choose between 5(?) bosses, kill them and you can kill the rest |
| 07:59.36 | nevcairiel | do it on some more chars and you have even more pets DJJeff |
| 07:59.50 | Constie | Yeah, that's how BT is. |
| 07:59.53 | DJJeff | I only have 2 90s |
| 08:00.06 | Constie | Boost some more characters! |
| 08:00.21 | DJJeff | for $60 ? |
| 08:00.45 | DJJeff | HA! I already gave blizzard too much money on server and faction transfers |
| 08:00.45 | Constie | Clearly worth it. |
| 08:00.47 | Ironii | tbh blackrock foundry is way too big, atleast it felt like it in beta, so much running around |
| 08:01.00 | DJJeff | not about to give them more |
| 08:01.39 | DJJeff | I miss spending hours and hours doing naxx |
| 08:01.55 | DJJeff | still one of the best raids in wow |
| 08:02.09 | harl | [10:00:45] <Constie> Clearly worth it. |
| 08:02.11 | harl | good one.. |
| 08:02.33 | DJJeff | and playing the safety dance song over vent on that one fight |
| 08:02.47 | DJJeff | the unclean boss |
| 08:02.48 | Constie | I never liked the aesthetics of Naxx. |
| 08:02.56 | Ironii | thats the nostalgia speaking ;p |
| 08:03.18 | DJJeff | "Heigan the Unclean" - Safety Dance |
| 08:04.28 | nevcairiel | naxx had so many fun bosses |
| 08:04.45 | harl | yhea |
| 08:05.38 | Constie | Actually, how does OnUpdate work? If SetScript("OnUpdate", f) means f gets called every time a frame gets drawn, does that mean that f gets called for the first time after all (non-LoD) addons have been loaded? |
| 08:06.19 | nevcairiel | not sure how addon loading works exactly, if it loads them all in one go and doesnt draw anything in that time |
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| 08:09.11 | DJJeff | there was an addon that would time how long addons took to load |
| 08:09.12 | DJJeff | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4939-Warmup.html |
| 08:09.20 | DJJeff | long dead now |
| 08:09.58 | nevcairiel | if you want to run something after all addons are done loading, use an event like PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 08:11.37 | Constie | From what I can tell the answer to my question is yes, although maybe that's just luck with the addons I happen to be using. But yeah, that's clearly the better thing to do. |
| 08:30.04 | nevcairiel | anyone know if there is an API to get the item category as shown in the tooltip, ie. "Toy", "Crafting Reagent"..? |
| 08:36.20 | Ironii | http://wowpedia.org/API_GetItemInfo |
| 08:36.29 | nevcairiel | its not in there |
| 08:37.00 | Ironii | wasnt itemSubType what you were looking for ? |
| 08:37.09 | nevcairiel | no, its a different string |
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| 08:51.25 | jleclanche | 41 minute queue to .. get into bnet?, |
| 08:52.57 | Stanzilla | yeah I think they are getting DDOSd again |
| 08:53.04 | Stanzilla | hots lags like crazy |
| 08:55.42 | Kodiack | Yeah, something screwy's happening. I have three characters at an infinite loading screen right now. Had one screen just sit there for twenty minutes because I was too lazy to close WoW. |
| 08:56.45 | Semlar | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14882288964 |
| 08:58.25 | Semlar | looooolll |
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| 09:15.36 | zenzio | I feel like the designers of javascript hated coders |
| 09:16.14 | zenzio | "Dude, no-one would ever want to copy an object, let's just make references instead. Let's also not provide any built-in way to circumvent it" |
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| 09:32.49 | Lynxium | then you lo-dash or underscore :) |
| 09:33.22 | Lynxium | use* |
| 09:36.02 | zenzio | hm? |
| 09:37.03 | Lynxium | Use 3rd-party libraries |
| 09:41.21 | Lynxium | I mean why would a language give you this sort of functionality? |
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| 10:02.45 | Simca | why wouldn't a language give you the ability to copy the contents of a variable |
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| 10:08.51 | Lynxium | copy a single thing vs copy many things is very different simply because while you can go with the best of all way kind of algorithm to do it, it won't be optimal and many times not as efficient as choosing the one that is the best for your case |
| 10:10.44 | Simca | in C-family languages, it is simple - you can call a copy constructor for the new object, and it will run the required copy constructors for every component |
| 10:10.51 | Simca | it would be pretty efficient |
| 10:11.47 | Lynxium | I fail to understand how this has anything to do with what I said but okay |
| 10:12.58 | Simca | well, it makes simple code like: Object object2 = Object(object1); efficient code |
| 10:13.22 | Semlar | i may have lied about not being able to page through LFG results |
| 10:13.29 | Semlar | i think i found a way around that |
| 10:14.25 | Lynxium | is up to you how you do the actual copy, it's not like you use copy constructor and all of a sudden you get a deep copy |
| 10:15.12 | Simca | well i admit it depends on how it was implemented for the class, but most of the time it would be a deep copy |
| 10:16.04 | Lynxium | I don't know about most of the time, I just know that it's up to you. :) |
| 10:17.14 | Lynxium | and just because you use a copy constructor doesn't make it efficient it's just one way of doing something that in another context can be inefficient |
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| 11:21.45 | AcidWeb | Im looking for new maintainers: http://www.curse.com/users/AcidWeb/projects |
| 11:22.01 | AcidWeb | In last days im completly floodded with PM/e-mails to update REFlex. |
| 11:24.09 | AcidWeb | And consideringi I skipped MoP due lack of interest I seriously doubt that WoD will rekindle my interest. |
| 11:25.28 | mitch0 | AcidWeb: just use a trial acc with ptr? |
| 11:25.40 | mitch0 | (if the update itself is not so boring for you) |
| 11:26.07 | AcidWeb | I already hotfixed two last patches this way. |
| 11:26.24 | AcidWeb | And this code need to be extensively tested in PVP. |
| 11:27.08 | AcidWeb | aka. I'm out. |
| 11:27.38 | mitch0 | yeah, understandable |
| 11:28.34 | AcidWeb | Well I hope that REFlex will wither sooner than Arena Historian and somebody will start making working replacement. |
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| 12:58.13 | tlund | AcidWeb: if you don't get anyone from here, push a new version that starts with a popup asking for new contributors/maintainers. :) |
| 12:58.33 | tlund | AcidWeb: since you came on irc to ask for people, i assume you care enough to actually put some time/effort into it :) |
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| 12:58.52 | tlund | AcidWeb: (and for that, I thank you. (even thou I am not using one of your addons)) |
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| 13:00.09 | tlund | on a related note, if someone wants to take over Outfitter, Mundocani is looking for help :) |
| 13:02.09 | tlund | ah, scratch atht. he is now writing int comments he is on a starter edition account and updating the addon! :) |
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| 13:05.27 | AcidWeb | tlund: I will not push new version. |
| 13:06.15 | AcidWeb | tlund: Also I don't came on IRC for that - I just not left this channel for years ;p |
| 13:10.18 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:11.16 | Lopeppeppy | Don't get used to me, I'm only here for 2 hours. Silly conference is silly. |
| 13:12.03 | Constie | Conference, or dumbference? |
| 13:12.19 | tlund | AcidWeb: ok :) |
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| 14:12.53 | VIad | you are sexy as you are Arrowmaster |
| 14:13.26 | Arrowmaster | i am, thats why i stopped caring too much about the diet |
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| 14:25.24 | TC-Work | Why would you want to lose weight for blizzcon as opposed to any other reason? |
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| 14:44.51 | mikma | wut, did GUID change? |
| 14:45.10 | phelps | much |
| 14:45.16 | mikma | ["0x0400000005FE15BB"] = 90, -> ["Player-1082-01F963D5"] = 90, |
| 14:47.28 | nevcairiel | yes, guids changed |
| 14:48.27 | mikma | it was odd to notice that my db had two sorts of guids in it :D |
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| 15:23.05 | p3lim | mikma: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49503 |
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| 16:35.19 | mikma | semlar: what were you talking earlier about creating a tooltip from guid? how's that done? |
| 16:35.33 | Semlar | for a unit? |
| 16:36.01 | Semlar | tooltip:SetHyperlink('unit:' .. guid) |
| 16:36.20 | mikma | ah it's Hyperlink |
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| 16:48.33 | mikma | semlar: well, level ?? Blood Elf Death Knight :P |
| 16:49.03 | Semlar | it would be whatever you would see when you hover over them |
| 16:49.32 | mikma | not exactly true, when i mouseover them i can see the level |
| 16:49.51 | Semlar | what is your exact code |
| 16:50.43 | mikma | semlar: http://hastebin.com/qosatuveka.hs |
| 16:51.31 | Semlar | or just hover your player frame so you can see your tooltip and type /run GameTooltip:SetHyperlink('unit:'..UnitGUID('target')) |
| 16:53.31 | Semlar | the unit level won't show up if the unit isn't cached, but i guarantee it works |
| 16:54.59 | mikma | semlar: but when i hover over the players in the game i can get their level anyway |
| 16:55.10 | Semlar | you don't have to hover over them |
| 16:57.24 | mikma | yeah. if i have targeted them (or hovered them) the sethyperlink puts the level in |
| 16:57.29 | Semlar | i used this technique yeeeeeeears ago to get the level of players i detected in the combat log |
| 16:58.06 | Semlar | the unit has to be cached, it doesn't mean you have to be actively targeting them |
| 16:58.56 | mikma | basicly randomly just checking the tooltip and hoping them to be cached? |
| 16:58.57 | Semlar | i was getting the level of players i had never targeted |
| 16:59.14 | Semlar | no, if they're in range they should be cached, call it multiple times and see if it makes a difference |
| 17:00.28 | Semlar | it's possible you have to be in a situation where the game is actually providing you with a guid, like the combat log, but if that's the case it shouldn't have an impact on what you're doing |
| 17:00.29 | mikma | but won't that be rather heavy to call it multiple times in a row? |
| 17:00.41 | Semlar | does it work? |
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| 17:01.06 | Semlar | the first call for a unit should prompt the server to cache it |
| 17:01.21 | Semlar | but i don't know about players with this new system |
| 17:01.42 | Semlar | it certainly works for mobs |
| 17:02.09 | Semlar | i can construct the tooltip of a mob that pops up as a vignette on my minimap |
| 17:03.16 | mikma | gah |
| 17:03.20 | Semlar | and i'm scraping the tooltip for every spell on my action bars on update to get their current spell cost so i wouldn't worry about calling SetHyperlink a few times |
| 17:03.31 | mikma | the problem will be the fact that some of the folks don't have guild ;D |
| 17:03.49 | mikma | GameTooltipTextLeft2:GetText() or GameTooltipTextLeft3:GetText() |
| 17:04.37 | Semlar | you may want to check the various possible line values that a player's tooltip can look like |
| 17:04.58 | Semlar | or maybe just loop over them until you match the "level" text |
| 17:05.58 | Semlar | there can be an annoying number of variances for which tooltip line contains what text |
| 17:06.49 | mikma | i'm not so sure about that with the players |
| 17:07.06 | mikma | i can think of these two variances, player without guild and player with guild |
| 17:07.59 | mikma | Title Name-Server |
| 17:08.05 | mikma | Guild-Server |
| 17:08.16 | mikma | Level xx Character Class (player) |
| 17:08.19 | mikma | Faction |
| 17:08.37 | mikma | and a player without guild is missing the line 2 |
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| 17:10.24 | fewyn | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/2jhlzv/psa_elvui_has_a_backdoor_and_how_to_remove_it/ |
| 17:10.29 | fewyn | well that's interesting |
| 17:10.33 | Semlar | qq |
| 17:12.04 | mikma | what a dick |
| 17:13.33 | mikma | semlar: got a gsub for catching the level? |
| 17:32.00 | kd3 | well, they reset the blasted lands quests but didn't reset all the npcs |
| 17:33.03 | JTF195 | i'm having an issue with a custom .blp texture i made for a weakauras display. For whatever reason, if i change my display mode or resolution, and then open the weakauras options, wow immediately crashes |
| 17:35.55 | mikma | semlar: whoopdidoo, it seems to work just fine |
| 17:36.48 | mikma | semlar: http://hastebin.com/ozomoyuron.lua |
| 17:38.54 | mikma | on the other hand i'm getting interesting errors, too :D |
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| 17:43.32 | Simca | and meh at the 'backdoor' |
| 17:43.57 | Simca | it uses sendchatmessage, so it can't even execute commands. if he wanted to be malicious he would have used loadstring |
| 17:44.09 | kd3 | he did use loadstring? |
| 17:44.23 | mikma | yes, he did |
| 17:44.32 | kd3 | line 490 in 7.07 |
| 17:44.51 | Simca | ah ok |
| 17:45.38 | Simca | though a backdoor that tells you what it is doing is probably not likely to have much success if misused |
| 17:45.55 | Simca | he still shouldn't have been fucking around with it in LFR |
| 17:46.10 | foxlit | ChatFrame1:ClearLines() |
| 17:46.40 | foxlit | or whatever equivalent for "haha, I can execute whatever code I want, your puny print message is no match" is appropriate here. |
| 17:47.07 | Simca | if the person was dumb enough to not realize their chat was being wiped constantly |
| 17:47.26 | kd3 | wow, that was a half-assed fix, reenabling the blasted lands quests |
| 17:47.43 | kd3 | maraad's on the other side of the zone and I've got 2 quests I can't turn in to him, since his appearance at the beachhead is phased out |
| 17:49.51 | foxlit | Simca: it's amusing that you think a print() statement can't be hidden without anyone noticing. |
| 17:50.38 | Simca | foxlit your argument is completely besides the point |
| 17:50.50 | Simca | if they wanted to do that, they could have just not put the statement there at all |
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| 17:52.11 | foxlit | I thought the point was about potential success when misused |
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| 18:18.28 | mikma | semlar: you were right. pretty much every enemy near me has a tooltip |
| 18:18.38 | Semlar | good |
| 18:18.47 | Semlar | i always like to hear i'm right |
| 18:19.13 | mikma | it's fun to watch the differences between the old addon that guesses levels and this new one |
| 18:19.33 | mikma | from the first spell the new one pretty much aces the level |
| 18:20.02 | mikma | just some random nil error happens every now and then, had to insert more checks |
| 18:20.06 | Semlar | sounds good, sometimes it may not be available immediately |
| 18:20.07 | kd3 | so, is GuildDisband() protected at all, or just hidden behind the clickthrough prompt after hitting /gdisband |
| 18:20.21 | Semlar | only one way to find out! |
| 18:20.40 | mikma | hehe |
| 18:20.50 | Semlar | wowprogramming does not have it marked as protected |
| 18:21.18 | mikma | that's because wowprogramming sucks jnwhiteh's testicles |
| 18:21.20 | Semlar | i also recently learned FollowUnit is not protected, which i found odd |
| 18:21.40 | mikma | has never been :D |
| 18:22.18 | mikma | i've been using it in my party-addon for years |
| 18:22.25 | Semlar | but all the movement functions are, so why not FollowUnit |
| 18:22.42 | mikma | http://svn.wowinterface.com/filedetails.php?repname=mikma&path=%2FPartyHardy%2FPartyHardy.lua |
| 18:22.54 | mikma | yeah, the code is horrible piece of bullcrap, but it still works |
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| 18:47.13 | kd3 | bleh, it's spooky having a gm log on my character and find myself on the opposite side of the zone to sort out quest bugs |
| 18:53.15 | kd3 | holy crap, loot ship is fixed after the hotfixes. that's nice |
| 19:12.26 | foxlit | Hm, I lost the backslash key :/ |
| 19:13.07 | foxlit | seems to be mapped to ¥, which is a little awkward. |
| 19:15.26 | foxlit | found it again; odd that the behavior between /\ isn't consistent. |
| 19:16.22 | Fisker | You can't just have yen |
| 19:17.04 | Semlar | not with that attitude |
| 19:17.30 | Mr_Rabies | <kd3> holy crap, loot ship is fixed after the hotfixes. that's nice |
| 19:17.37 | Mr_Rabies | what was wrong with it? it worked for us the other day :o |
| 19:19.05 | TC-Work | Tes yiu cab Fisker. |
| 19:19.08 | kd3 | on tuesday it was all but impossible |
| 19:19.14 | Unkle | foxlit: Are you doing something that should remap keys? Or are you just finding something "weird"? |
| 19:19.18 | TC-Work | Hmmm, wtf did I just type. |
| 19:19.21 | kd3 | before either set of hotfixes |
| 19:20.07 | Fisker | Congratulations on your new nexus devices Fisker |
| 19:20.12 | Fisker | That's what you wrote |
| 19:20.21 | foxlit | Unkle: just the input method bing inconsistent; it has this in its settings: http://go-hero.net/i/keys.png |
| 19:20.51 | Unkle | foxlit: Gotcha. |
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| 19:21.11 | Semlar | i have got to stop posting on the wow forum |
| 19:21.12 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.44 | foxlit | Semlar: generally, stopping posting on all forums is good for sanity. |
| 19:22.08 | Semlar | i should really just avoid all forums |
| 19:22.29 | Semlar | letting other people voice their opinions is a terrible idea |
| 19:23.20 | Constie | I have a sickness where I keep wanting to help people with macro questions, even though there will always just be more of them. |
| 19:26.20 | Semlar | i got downvoted for saying someone couldn't actually exploit elvui's "backdoor" without being able to run arbitrary code on your machine already |
| 19:26.57 | foxlit | weren't you, strictly speaking, wrong? |
| 19:27.27 | Semlar | i suppose if you count creating a character with the same name on the same server in europe that's technically wrong |
| 19:27.29 | foxlit | (not that being wrong justifies downvotes, but meh, it's not like people follow reddiquette, so just ignore the imaginary internet points?) |
| 19:28.09 | Semlar | short of that, no an addon can't just hijack elvui to execute arbitrary commands without already being able to execute them directly |
| 19:28.48 | Semlar | this is the other post "Anyone who knew of this code's existence could exploit it via an injection attack from other add-ons. " |
| 19:29.09 | Semlar | which has.. 3 upvotes |
| 19:29.22 | foxlit | and is more wrong than you are. It doesn't matter; voting public isn't competent. |
| 19:30.31 | Semlar | all i'm saying is nobody should be able to have an opinion except for me |
| 19:30.46 | Semlar | is that so wrong |
| 19:30.52 | foxlit | and by me you mean me. |
| 19:30.54 | Unkle | Semlar Constie - I've been doing it for years. It never ends and I start to hate humans in general. |
| 19:31.11 | foxlit | so we're in prefect agreement there. |
| 19:33.09 | Semlar | did i mention that even though the LFG search function only lets you read 25 results at a time you can still get the entire list |
| 19:33.37 | foxlit | last time I heard you, it was "can't" |
| 19:34.14 | Semlar | yeah yeah, but i figured out subsequent calls don't return results you've already seen, it returns the next 25 until you've looped around to the end |
| 19:34.43 | Semlar | so even though the LFG interface has a "refresh" button on it, really what that button does is gives you the next 25 in the sequence |
| 19:34.58 | Semlar | it's like paging except you can't go backwards |
| 19:35.35 | |Jelly| | Constie: Just stop. ;) Your life will become a lot more zen. |
| 19:35.38 | Semlar | i also figured out the search throttle is about 3 seconds |
| 19:36.08 | Constie | I do actually for real enjoy it, and don't find it frustrating at all. |
| 19:36.53 | Constie | I even did this, once: https://threadmeters.com/wow/mkOlxA/Lux_et_Umbra_A_Priest_Mechanics_Handbook/ |
| 19:38.51 | p3lim | Semlar: do subzones have ids? |
| 19:39.11 | Semlar | depends on what you mean by subzone |
| 19:39.30 | Semlar | maps that belong to larger maps or areas where your minimap text changes |
| 19:39.47 | p3lim | GetCurrentMapAreaID() in Hrothgar's Landing (Icecrown) has the ID 541 |
| 19:39.54 | p3lim | but it has a subzone called "Sea Reaver's Run" |
| 19:40.03 | Semlar | a separate map? |
| 19:40.10 | p3lim | no |
| 19:40.17 | p3lim | Hrothgar's Landing does |
| 19:40.21 | p3lim | but the subzone doesn't |
| 19:40.39 | Semlar | okay, internally, subzones reference area IDs, but it's not something you can access in game |
| 19:41.26 | Semlar | essentially the ground is made up of little squares that they can "pain" area IDs on, so when you step on one of those squares the map text changes to that area's text |
| 19:41.32 | Semlar | pain/paint |
| 19:42.41 | Semlar | anyway, point is, internally there are IDs, but in game you just have the minimap zone text |
| 19:43.32 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/mr97rmH.jpg this sort of shows the areas |
| 19:47.08 | Semlar | the forum is like a bad tooth i have to keep going back and poking |
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| 19:48.16 | foxlit | do something productive instead; implement your own macro [conditional] :) |
| 19:48.59 | Semlar | [sitting] |
| 19:49.08 | foxlit | (on the bright side, nobody has complained about [talent:1/2] not working in OPie so far.) |
| 19:49.26 | TC-Work | I will! |
| 19:50.05 | foxlit | wait, do you actually play WoW? |
| 19:51.17 | TC-Work | No... |
| 19:51.42 | TC-Work | Although I do own Warlords. |
| 19:51.54 | Fisker | Me too |
| 19:52.09 | Fisker | Did subscribe for a month |
| 19:52.48 | Constie | I was letting my account be lapsed until WoD came out since I have nothing to do in-game until then, but then I paid $15 to get to post on the forums. |
| 19:57.14 | Mr_Rabies | aww yisss |
| 19:57.18 | Mr_Rabies | altoholic is working again |
| 19:57.37 | Simca | i swear skype literally hates me |
| 19:58.32 | Simca | getting "Thread Creation Error: Not enough storage is available to process this command" when i click anywhere, so I restart it |
| 19:58.37 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/h82EGR2.png when I restart it |
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| 20:02.36 | TC-Work | reinstall? |
| 20:02.59 | Simca | half a dozen times |
| 20:03.51 | Simca | ok that's an exaggeration, but around 3 times |
| 20:04.03 | p3lim | alright, thanks Semlar |
| 20:04.13 | TC-Work | 'Around'? You don't actually know? |
| 20:05.14 | Simca | no, it's been happening for like 6 months |
| 20:05.34 | TC-Work | Will it launch in safemode? |
| 20:05.54 | Constie | You could maybe try an older version, I guess? http://www.oldversion.com/ |
| 20:06.57 | Simca | i'm thinking of going through the registry and deleting anything related to skype before reinstalling this time, could help |
| 20:07.21 | Mr_Rabies | try running revo uninstaller on skype |
| 20:07.22 | Mr_Rabies | ...well |
| 20:07.28 | Mr_Rabies | it's a microsoft program, that might not be the best idea |
| 20:07.49 | Mr_Rabies | it might go OH HEY THIS USES THIS SHARED FILE, DELETE IT |
| 20:07.57 | Mr_Rabies | and just wipe out a bunch of stuff that your OS uses |
| 20:08.10 | Mr_Rabies | can't hurt to run it though and see what it plans on deleting |
| 20:09.35 | Simca | almost every single type of error message i get from skype is related to memory (the one i mentioned above + "Out of memory on Line 1" are the most popular), but it never goes above 300-400 MB used and I have like 12 GB free |
| 20:09.45 | Semlar | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info23169-AtlasWorldMap.html >_> |
| 20:10.20 | Semlar | who are these map imposters |
| 20:11.05 | Simca | deadca7 did all the maps for Atlas, iirc |
| 20:11.19 | Semlar | they wish they could map as much as me |
| 20:11.58 | foxlit | and I wish any of you could port the GW2 map to WoW. |
| 20:12.19 | Semlar | what's special about it |
| 20:12.22 | Simca | that would be a very interesting challenge |
| 20:12.30 | Simca | it is seamless between zones, semlar |
| 20:12.38 | Simca | with zoom capabilities |
| 20:12.47 | Semlar | so just google maps? |
| 20:12.53 | Simca | basically, yes. |
| 20:12.59 | Simca | except in lua and inside the world map frame |
| 20:13.02 | foxlit | dynamic detail levels blending reasonably well. |
| 20:13.06 | Semlar | i could do that but it would kill your frame rate |
| 20:13.20 | Semlar | if you zoomed out there would be so many terrain tiles |
| 20:13.22 | foxlit | plus art instead of crap rendering of terrain |
| 20:13.31 | Semlar | psh |
| 20:13.35 | Semlar | make your own art |
| 20:13.36 | Constie | Doesn't like Carbonite do that |
| 20:13.37 | Constie | ? |
| 20:13.51 | Semlar | carbonite only draws terrain when you are super zoomed into the zone map |
| 20:14.07 | Semlar | because if it did it when you were zoomed out you'd see performance problems |
| 20:14.22 | foxlit | why are there like no youtube vieos of this? |
| 20:15.27 | foxlit | I guess https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOyPUx5d72M |
| 20:16.07 | foxlit | though limiting it to just WvWvW zones is boring. |
| 20:16.15 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:16.36 | Semlar | man i uploaded this a long time ago |
| 20:16.41 | Semlar | this brings me back |
| 20:16.54 | tlund | uuh.. I had a map like that for wow a few years back? |
| 20:19.03 | foxlit | you're probably thinking of something using wow's minimap tiles and world map tiles; the end results are rather unimpressive because WoW's minimap tile resolution isn't that great. |
| 20:19.22 | tlund | yes |
| 20:20.13 | tlund | now I just have ctrl-alt-M bound to blow up the minimap fullscreen when I need to find some exact detail |
| 20:22.59 | Ressy | Happy Birthday Pompy |
| 20:27.02 | Mr_Rabies | whoa weird |
| 20:27.29 | Mr_Rabies | my onyxia scale cloak says <Made By EstelleB4680> |
| 20:28.13 | foxlit | weirder: you still have an onyxia scale cloak. |
| 20:28.50 | Guillotine | Mr_Rabies: Haha. The character that made the cloak apparently had a forced name change for some reason and hasn't logged back into the game since |
| 20:29.23 | foxlit | probably the release-the-names thing? |
| 20:30.48 | Simca | yeah |
| 20:42.12 | Simca | and in theory, you would do this by drawing your own minimap for the game at a very very high resolution |
| 20:43.02 | Simca | it wouldn't be impossible to render the world with all of its M2s, WMOs, and ADTs in 2 dimensions |
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| 20:43.49 | Semlar | it wouldn't be very practical |
| 20:44.21 | Semlar | well, my addon was rendering the adts and wmos already |
| 20:45.12 | Simca | you can't do that ingame |
| 20:45.45 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.33 | Mr_Rabies | is there anything out there that expands the frame icons for macros, equipment manager, etc uses? scrolling through all those icons 15 at a time is a nightmare |
| 20:47.02 | Semlar | i think there was a macro icon picker addon, i have no idea if it would be up to date though |
| 20:47.30 | Mr_Rabies | also lol, Guillotine, i figured it was something related to that, but wasn't sure |
| 20:48.03 | Simca | Semlar: wut. there are no functions to load wmos or m2s though |
| 20:48.18 | Simca | are you loading many blps on top of each other and adjusting the alpha? |
| 20:48.28 | Semlar | no but the textures that make up the minimap are in there |
| 20:48.34 | Semlar | and those represent both the adts and the wmos |
| 20:48.42 | Simca | yeah |
| 20:48.53 | Simca | the problem is that the minimap tiles are just too low res |
| 20:48.58 | Semlar | not really.. |
| 20:49.15 | Simca | so you would need to regenerate them yourself at much higher res and then include them with the addon |
| 20:49.19 | Semlar | they're certainly higher resolution than what i saw on the gw2 map video for the same zoom levels |
| 20:50.45 | Semlar | the textures for indoor areas are way higher resolution than the ones for the terrain |
| 20:52.12 | Semlar | but if you were going to import your own map it would take up a ridiculous amount of space to replace everything |
| 20:52.55 | foxlit | so maybe you'd use an intermediate format that isn't a bitmap. |
| 20:53.41 | Constie | Mr_Rabies: I don't know if it still works, but: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info20821-AdvancedIconSelector.html |
| 21:01.23 | Mr_Rabies | thanks constie, i'll give it a look |
| 21:04.38 | Mr_Rabies | oh hey this seems to be up to date http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info21397-GearManagerMoreIcons.html |
| 21:04.41 | Mr_Rabies | gonna give that a shot |
| 21:05.51 | tlund | what has replaced SetRaidDifficulty(2) (to set legacy raids to 25-man) some addon is causing an error when I try to do it from my portrait, and I want to raid noooooow! :) |
| 21:08.21 | tlund | ah, SetRaidDifficultyID() |
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| 21:13.38 | kullervo | btw figured out the issue about textbox and blizzard tooltip backgrounds looking like modern art |
| 21:14.19 | kullervo | I had many custom textures for those in the interface folder and apparently the old stuff is no longer compatible |
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| 21:18.31 | Mr_Rabies | hmm, how do i get the path to an icon? gonna try to use the samwise icon for an equipset if it'll let me |
| 21:24.10 | Semlar | if you find it on wowhead you can just click the icon |
| 21:29.36 | Constie | "if icon == "Interface\\Icons\\Temp" and Quartz3.db.profile.hidesamwise then icon = nil" seems to indicate that that's the path to it, but http://wowprogramming.com/utils/artbrowser/Interface/ICONS/TEMP.png isn't it. |
| 21:30.44 | foxlit | temp changed in like 3.0 |
| 21:31.28 | Constie | Why would they ever change that? |
| 21:31.59 | foxlit | because showing a random face is weird? |
| 21:32.17 | Constie | There is that. |
| 21:32.48 | foxlit | http://wowpedia.org/File:Temp.png << 3.1. |
| 21:33.11 | Constie | I suppose you could just replace it right back with http://wowpedia.org/File:BTNTemp.png, though. |
| 21:34.49 | zenzelezz | cognac isn't usually my thing, but it did work pretty well for a vorspiel |
| 21:35.01 | Neffi | the old face is like 400% better though |
| 21:35.04 | Neffi | isn't that Samwise? |
| 21:35.07 | foxlit | that looks like a war3 icon. |
| 21:35.30 | foxlit | (so it's probably not in wow) |
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| 21:36.39 | Mr_Rabies | looks like the samwise icon was removed |
| 21:36.44 | Mr_Rabies | it was definitely in game at some point |
| 21:37.19 | Constie | Hence the Quartz option to hide it, yeah. |
| 21:37.22 | Mr_Rabies | ah well :< |
| 21:37.52 | Mr_Rabies | was gonna be my "naked" set |
| 21:37.54 | Mr_Rabies | icon |
| 21:41.52 | Mr_Rabies | sausage icon it is |
| 21:42.28 | Constie | Or this one: http://www.wowhead.com/item=88801 |
| 21:51.34 | kd3 | heh, the blizzard store has fallen over |
| 21:51.38 | kd3 | http://gear.blizzard.com/ |
| 21:52.28 | Semlar | works for me |
| 21:54.58 | foxlit | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=93375 << did this vanish in 6.0? |
| 21:55.33 | nevcairiel | if it still exists its quite likely one of those passives that they just plain out hide from the spellbook |
| 21:55.39 | foxlit | jerks! |
| 21:55.54 | nevcairiel | since it doesnt really offer any real information |
| 21:56.07 | foxlit | same story with http://www.wowhead.com/spell=93321 |
| 21:56.52 | foxlit | it told me whether you should have a pet bar or not :( |
| 21:57.18 | nevcairiel | isnt there an actual API for that |
| 21:57.25 | Mr_Rabies | hmm, there's no way to make 1 press of a macro do /equipset and another press go back to the previous set/gear is there? |
| 21:57.43 | foxlit | the concept still exists, in any case, as level 1 warlocks can't tell the imp to do a thing. |
| 21:58.04 | Semlar | but you can check that they're level 10 |
| 21:58.23 | Semlar | also, the game knows whether you can control your pet so there must be an api for it |
| 21:59.41 | foxlit | PET_BAR_HIDE/PET_BAR_SHOW. |
| 22:01.07 | foxlit | and PetHasActionBar, but that's useless to me. |
| 22:03.37 | Fisker | Does the waterbottle contain water kd3 ? |
| 22:04.03 | kd3 | I would presume not |
| 22:04.10 | Fisker | :( |
| 22:04.34 | Fisker | I'm not gonna buy into their corporate junk though kd3 |
| 22:04.39 | Fisker | I'm not a part of their system |
| 22:04.48 | Fisker | throws authenticator on the ground |
| 22:04.53 | zenzelezz | lies, you're the ghost in the system |
| 22:05.09 | Fisker | oh man, remember when the authenticator was part of their capitalist agenda to slack on security? |
| 22:06.12 | Fisker | I wonder what happened in that case actually |
| 22:13.41 | Mr_Rabies | argh this enchanting vellum bug is driving me nuts |
| 22:19.14 | zenzelezz | ? |
| 22:19.18 | smcn | you mean where it goes in reagent bank |
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| 22:25.56 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, smcn |
| 22:26.10 | Mr_Rabies | it would actually be nice if we could use them somehow from the reagent bank |
| 22:26.23 | Mr_Rabies | but instead i have to hit deposit all then find my vellums and grab them |
| 22:29.54 | foxlit | hm, [level:10-]? |
| 22:30.40 | foxlit | (as in [level:min-max]; or maybe just [level:min+] and let you juggle with [nolevel]?) |
| 22:31.20 | p3lim | I've got 5 Burning Seeds (wowhead.com/item=94604) from firelands as a level 20 druid on a trail account :D |
| 22:31.47 | p3lim | trial* |
| 22:36.55 | Mr_Rabies | trial accounts can get mail from alts now i guess? :O |
| 22:38.42 | Mr_Rabies | lol, premade group named "1 877 FROGS 4 CHARMS" |
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| 22:54.06 | Neffi | foxlit: por que no los dos? |
| 22:54.36 | Neffi | support both forms: 10+, 10-, 10-20 |
| 22:55.20 | foxlit | double the parsing headaches for no particular reason? |
| 22:55.44 | Neffi | of course. always that |
| 22:56.28 | foxlit | I actually decided to be lazy and went for [petcontrol] instead of [level]; no args, no headache. |
| 23:14.14 | Mr_Rabies | Ackis: you retired from wow and/or addon development or something, right? :O |
| 23:25.47 | Thunder_Child_ | The google hangouts program is kind of a dick as it sits at a higher strata than the screensaver. |
| 23:26.36 | kullervo | Thunder_Child_: steam popups do too |
| 23:31.59 | nevcairiel | steam probably has to, so it can ensure it ends up on top of all the games as well |
| 23:34.40 | Neffi | Mr_Rabies: watching s04 of Korra? |
| 23:41.53 | Thunder_Child_ | By pop-up you mean the toast stuff? |
| 23:42.31 | Thunder_Child_ | I would have just assumed they were attached to whatever the overlay was attached to. |
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| 23:50.57 | smcn | hm how is it determined which addon gets to use a slash-command when they both try to use the same one |
| 23:51.20 | Thunder_Child_ | Darwinism. |
| 23:51.31 | smcn | ty |
| 23:51.39 | smcn | they just fight to the death |
| 23:51.54 | Semlar | probably the last one to attempt to register it |
| 23:52.39 | foxlit | or the first. Depends on how much of a jerk you are while registering. |
| 23:53.36 | foxlit | or whoever wins the lottery, if you only collide on the boring bits. |
| 23:54.23 | Neffi | smcn: it's been a little while since I last checked but.. |
| 23:54.57 | Semlar | the suspense is killing me neffi |
| 23:55.00 | smcn | lol |
| 23:55.11 | Neffi | On the first invocation of a given slash command, it's searched for. IIRC some FrameXML code loops over SlashCmdList, looks up all the relevant globals, and stops on the first one that has the slash command |
| 23:55.20 | Neffi | so the order should actually be undefined |
| 23:55.44 | Semlar | YOU'RE UNDEFINED |
| 23:55.48 | Neffi | that is, it's doing pairs() over a hash map, not an array, so there is no concept of order, so it doesn't matter who registered it first |
| 23:56.04 | Neffi | I may be wrong though. It's been ages since I looked at that code in particular |
| 23:56.28 | smcn | so i guess that means there's no way to "force" one addon to get dibs on a slash-command from the outside, you'd just have to comment out the assignment in one of them |
| 23:56.51 | foxlit | call ChatFrame_ImportAllListsToHash. |
| 23:56.52 | Semlar | you could |
| 23:57.13 | Semlar | you could fight pretty hard to make sure your addon is the one that wins |
| 23:57.13 | foxlit | and then kill it with fire. |
| 23:57.18 | Neffi | there's also probably like 10 other ways of doing it, yes |
| 23:57.25 | Semlar | but that seems like a horrible design choice |
| 23:57.27 | smcn | Semlar: actually neither of them are mine :P |
| 23:57.32 | Neffi | that's *definitely* possible. just a matter of coercing the code into it |
| 23:58.04 | Neffi | once your version is cached, the lookup never happens again (unless somebody forces it out of the cache, but I think it might be hidden behind a local now) |
| 23:58.43 | Neffi | ~framexml |
| 23:58.43 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml |
| 23:58.46 | Neffi | let me see if I can find it |
| 23:59.04 | foxlit | let me save you the trouble: it's more efficient to comment out the offending duplicate declaration. |
| 23:59.12 | Neffi | haha |
| 23:59.15 | pompy | Ressy: thanks. |
| 23:59.15 | smcn | lol yeah |
| 23:59.18 | foxlit | and anyone suggesting anything else is criminally insane. |
| 23:59.24 | smcn | already done :P |
| 23:59.29 | Neffi | I never said I wasn't criminally insane |
