| 00:01.35 | Stanzilla | Simca: someone ressurected mik |
| 00:01.49 | Stanzilla | Simca: you should send him your additional changes via a patch though :P |
| 00:02.27 | Mr_Rabies | mannnn |
| 00:02.32 | Mr_Rabies | i really hope adibags gets updated soon |
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| 00:09.15 | Jamash | I should submit a bug, Thori'dal doesn't go into the toybox. |
| 00:15.03 | TC-Work | Sounds like a bondage scenario. |
| 00:16.32 | bluspacecow | giggity |
| 00:16.39 | bluspacecow | nobody puts baby in the corner |
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| 00:20.01 | Semlar | ^_^ |
| 00:20.07 | kd3 | wow, the +damage bonus to previous-expansion mobs almost takes the fun out of soloing old raids |
| 00:20.37 | bluspacecow | its harder to farm it now as they hit harder is what you is saying ? |
| 00:21.13 | kd3 | no, it's a joke. I soloed 25-player patchwerk in ~15 sec |
| 00:21.36 | Gragagrogog_ | try lich king 25 hc pls |
| 00:21.39 | [TOM_RUS] | what about lich king? |
| 00:21.58 | kd3 | I'll check once I get out of naxx, for some reason I still dont' have glory of the raider (25) |
| 00:22.24 | bluspacecow | haste are you glad oGlows now included in the base UI ? |
| 00:29.12 | Stanzilla | it's not |
| 00:29.16 | Stanzilla | just for bags iirc |
| 00:37.34 | fewyn | don't forget random mount macros are no longer needed, it's built into the game now |
| 00:37.37 | fewyn | :D |
| 00:42.27 | Kesava | (but only account wide) |
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| 00:45.10 | fewyn | huh stuff is looting a lot faster too than previously |
| 00:45.30 | fewyn | normally with auto loot turned on looting bosses in molten core takes a couple seconds |
| 00:45.33 | fewyn | was almost instant now |
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| 01:01.26 | Tuller | grumble |
| 01:01.45 | Tuller | so cooldowns on at least action buttons dont inherit alpha settings |
| 01:02.43 | Stanzilla | I had many complaints that OmniCC cooldown spiral is no longer working on my buttons |
| 01:05.53 | Semlar | yeah, i wrote an example for someone on wowinterface on how they can update the cooldown spinner to reflect the alpha of the parent frame |
| 01:06.45 | Semlar | Tuller: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=297087&postcount=5 |
| 01:07.08 | Semlar | it's pretty much just spinner:SetSwipeColor(r, g, b, a) |
| 01:07.58 | Semlar | unless you mean the numbers, in which case i have no idea how they behave |
| 01:09.11 | Tuller | just the spirals, the numbers are acting as expected |
| 01:10.03 | Stanzilla | nice Semlar |
| 01:11.53 | Stanzilla | now jaliborc just needs to stop being weird |
| 01:13.34 | Stanzilla | Tuller: I'm really sad that he took your stuff over :p |
| 01:13.53 | Tuller | well, no one else really offered to help out :P |
| 01:14.15 | Simca | fewyn: yes, they created a new event that sends addon data before the loot window even opens, so that looting can begin the instant it opens |
| 01:14.25 | fewyn | ohhhh |
| 01:14.27 | fewyn | that's awesome |
| 01:14.40 | fewyn | it's so snappy now |
| 01:14.55 | Semlar | well, i made my own cooldown count addon in an attempt to make the least efficient one out there, for variety |
| 01:15.27 | Tuller | i made my own, too :P |
| 01:15.53 | Semlar | i figured if you guys had the lightweight ones covered i'd offer something different |
| 01:16.25 | Tuller | step one, check every button with individual global onupdate handlers |
| 01:16.36 | fewyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:16.39 | Tuller | don't attach those handlers to the buttons, and make sure they're always shown |
| 01:16.44 | Stanzilla | I need like two options for my cooldown count, make it turn double digit at 1.5s and red at 3 or so |
| 01:16.48 | fewyn | 475* |
| 01:16.51 | Semlar | i do loop over every action button in the interface on update updating the values |
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| 01:17.35 | Semlar | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/crackcooldown/ yiss |
| 01:18.26 | Semlar | oh oh, and with 6.0 i actually scrape the tooltip for every spell on each action button on update as well to figure out the cost |
| 01:18.53 | Semlar | because they REMOVED IT FROM GETSPELLINFO |
| 01:19.02 | Stanzilla | Tuller: tullacc has no options at all, right? |
| 01:19.24 | Tuller | no GUI options, yes |
| 01:19.36 | Tuller | and nothing persistent |
| 01:19.47 | Stanzilla | = ( |
| 01:23.58 | Semlar | heh, they removed the ability to create castsequence macros with 0s in them that did your whole rotation for you |
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| 01:24.16 | Semlar | people are complaining about that in the ui forum |
| 01:25.14 | Semlar | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14882338115 |
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| 01:28.29 | Primer | heh, trying to connect to wow at work using wine, and the server list is red, but showing population |
| 01:28.39 | Primer | Not sure what that means... |
| 01:28.43 | Ssateneth | i'm getting a lot of 90% loading screens :/ |
| 01:28.59 | Ssateneth | trying to get back in so I can ask about something.. |
| 01:29.53 | Primer | so the client itself no longer updates the game any more, eh? |
| 01:30.02 | Primer | still showing 5.4.8 in the login screen |
| 01:31.08 | kullervo | these people are goddamn scrubs ._. |
| 01:31.19 | kullervo | "boohoo can't use left hand I need a macro to play the game for me" |
| 01:31.37 | kullervo | I've actually played with nothing but mouse binds and also without a mouse due to injuries in the past |
| 01:31.49 | Ssateneth | Primer, gotta use battle.net client to update i think |
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| 01:32.44 | Gragagrogog_ | y, i healed heroic raid on touchpad |
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| 01:33.07 | Primer | My battle.net client reads "Updated to 5.4.8.18414" |
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| 01:33.20 | Primer | Did 6.0.2 not hit? |
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| 01:33.59 | Stanzilla | hit play |
| 01:34.10 | Simca | it is out in the US |
| 01:34.44 | Primer | dammit, i was hoping to avoid this |
| 01:35.06 | Primer | I rsynced the directory from my fully updated laptop just now |
| 01:35.23 | Primer | I updated the laptop yesterday |
| 01:35.27 | Gragagrogog_ | theese macros ppl are complaining about still seem possible just with ahk |
| 01:35.42 | Primer | Hitting play just launched 5.4.8 |
| 01:36.36 | bluspacecow | is EU updated yet ? |
| 01:37.28 | Stanzilla | no |
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| 01:42.49 | [TOM_RUS] | no |
| 01:43.00 | Primer | ok, seems bnet had to update itself first |
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| 01:43.06 | Primer | hrmm freeload getting DDoS'd again? |
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| 01:50.40 | Simca | q fucking q |
| 01:50.53 | Simca | just cleared all the trash up to marrowgar, started the fight, and the server went down |
| 01:51.02 | Simca | now i have to do it all over again |
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| 01:53.55 | Tuller | Semlar, setting the SwipeColor opacity does hide the spiral, but doesn't do anything to the end effect at all |
| 01:57.47 | Primer | OMG MY TOON LOOKS SO DIFFERENT |
| 02:00.33 | Neffi | o.O |
| 02:02.50 | Primer | Unlike you people, I wanted to be surprised |
| 02:03.37 | Neffi | I dont know what most of the new models look like |
| 02:05.51 | Primer | hrmm PB4 didn't load even though I updated it |
| 02:06.40 | Primer | no errors for it either |
| 02:08.43 | Primer | yet /pb works |
| 02:08.49 | Primer | but there's just nothing there |
| 02:12.26 | bluspacecow | ace3? |
| 02:12.36 | Semlar | Tuller: do cooldown:SetDrawBling(false) to remove the bling bling |
| 02:12.44 | bluspacecow | how do you query what version of ace3 is current again ? |
| 02:12.53 | bluspacecow | ~ace3 |
| 02:12.53 | purl | well, ace3 is an addon framework for World of Warcraft to make writing addons easier. The primary difference from Ace2 is to be more interoperable with as many frameworks as possible, allowing only bits and pieces to be chosen for addons, and no longer be a one megabyte monster. http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/ |
| 02:12.59 | bluspacecow | ~lart bluspacecow |
| 02:12.59 | purl | chops bluspacecow in half with a free AOL CD |
| 02:13.30 | Primer | When I do /pb and go to modules, there's nothing there |
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| 02:19.57 | Simca | Stanzilla: ah ha, mikord resurfaced and updated MSBT |
| 02:20.22 | Primer | excellent |
| 02:20.28 | Primer | now if only I could get PB4 to work... |
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| 02:21.43 | Simca | recount still has no update |
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| 02:22.05 | tehtsuo | Evening all |
| 02:22.08 | Simca | you'd think an addon with a billion users that could be updated with 20 lines of code would be worth that person's time |
| 02:23.06 | Primer | I thought people used Skada now |
| 02:23.09 | Primer | not Recount |
| 02:23.15 | tehtsuo | See they changed the return values for GetSpellInfo, but is anyone else noticing they removed the "Using spellId as the argument will always return the info." |
| 02:23.32 | Semlar | no |
| 02:23.38 | tehtsuo | It appears that now even with spellID you can't get spell info for a spell that isn't in your spellbook |
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| 02:23.43 | Simca | even if the author didn't update it for the next 3 years |
| 02:23.52 | Simca | i'm pretty sure recount would still be the most popular addon |
| 02:24.05 | Semlar | GetSpellInfo definitely works for spell IDs that you don't know |
| 02:24.35 | tehtsuo | Eh |
| 02:24.48 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:25.44 | Semlar | it doesn't work for spell names that you don't know |
| 02:26.13 | Semlar | my server is locked |
| 02:26.13 | tehtsuo | Hmm |
| 02:26.26 | Semlar | i can't even log into live |
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| 02:27.29 | tehtsuo | Maybe they just changed a spell ID |
| 02:27.47 | Semlar | that's probably the case, because i'm pretty confident it works the same on live as it does on the beta |
| 02:27.56 | Semlar | and you can look up any spell id on the beta |
| 02:28.00 | tehtsuo | Yeah, looking like it |
| 02:28.16 | tehtsuo | GetSpellInfo(1120) is inop (drain soul) |
| 02:28.32 | Semlar | but if you use the localized name it won't work unless you know the spell, making GetSpellInfo one of the only functions capable of telling you whether you know a spell |
| 02:30.05 | Simca | patch should be happening now for euros most likely |
| 02:30.20 | Semlar | http://wod.wowhead.com/spell=103103 |
| 02:30.55 | tehtsuo | Looks good |
| 02:31.00 | tehtsuo | shakes fist at blizzard |
| 02:31.06 | Simca | lots of spells were removed and new versions were added |
| 02:31.23 | Simca | when I updated MSBTCooldowns' list, i had to change like 20 entries |
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| 02:33.01 | Semlar | Tuller: i wrote up some of the cooldown functions as a reply on wowi so other people might see it |
| 02:33.14 | Tuller | yes i saw that, thank you |
| 02:33.22 | Tuller | i should have found them earlier though :P |
| 02:33.25 | Semlar | probably better than using SetSwipeColor if you want to completely hide it |
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| 02:33.53 | Tuller | well i'm debating responsibility at that point |
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| 02:34.25 | Gethe | Simca: the funny thing about the MSBT update is that it doesnt have multistrike |
| 02:34.54 | Semlar | Tuller: or you could just hide the actual cooldown and parent to something else |
| 02:34.55 | Simca | yeah it's worse than our versions; i think he only corrected lua errors |
| 02:35.07 | Gethe | yeah probly |
| 02:35.42 | Tuller | Semlar, that was my thought initially |
| 02:35.50 | Semlar | might be a pain though |
| 02:36.15 | Tuller | i don't think it'll work in a secure environment, but i've not doublechecked yet |
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| 02:39.40 | Semlar | i don't parent to the cooldown frame |
| 02:39.46 | Semlar | at least i don't think i do |
| 02:40.00 | Semlar | no of course i don't because i put timers on things without swipes |
| 02:40.40 | Tuller | omnicc parents to the cooldown/s parent, tullacc parents to the cooldown frame |
| 02:40.49 | Tuller | but i'm speaking of dominos here, and bars that are transparent |
| 02:42.10 | Semlar | the secure frame can't see insecure children in combat so it's not an issue |
| 02:42.57 | Semlar | you can create your frame on top of the action buttons without problems |
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| 02:47.39 | Dagmar | I don't think putting them on display is really going to help insecure children. What they _need_ is affirmation. |
| 02:47.49 | ccox | "preparing to patch" is taking longer than the download... |
| 02:48.00 | Semlar | you are not prepared |
| 02:48.14 | Dagmar | I just leave the battlenet thingie running all the time. |
| 02:48.41 | Neffi | Semlar: you're a few years too late on that joke ;) |
| 02:48.57 | Semlar | no neffi, it's all about timing |
| 02:49.05 | Gragagrogog_ | but the world is right :P |
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| 02:50.41 | Tuller | yep reparenting seems to have worked well enoughish |
| 02:50.54 | Neffi | <Semlar> no neffi, it's all about timing <- http://i.imgur.com/4wUBC2x.gifv |
| 02:50.55 | Semlar | that's good enough for me! |
| 02:51.18 | Tuller | though there's some werid effects |
| 02:51.39 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:53.05 | Neffi | wat |
| 02:53.18 | Neffi | no. wait. wat |
| 02:54.13 | Semlar | you heard me |
| 02:54.55 | Neffi | i dont know if this is horrifying or intruiging |
| 02:55.21 | ccox | both |
| 02:59.02 | Simca | oh god recount has huge arrays of spell IDs, fml |
| 02:59.41 | Semlar | what why |
| 03:00.15 | Simca | to track spells with absorbs and how many dot ticks occur per DoT spell |
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| 03:09.53 | ccox | bagnon needs a few tweaks |
| 03:10.13 | ccox | and tomtom needs the updates to astrolabe |
| 03:11.00 | ccox | oqueue is completely hosed |
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| 03:13.22 | fewyn | do you really need oqueue anymore though |
| 03:13.29 | ccox | don't know yet |
| 03:13.29 | fewyn | with the new group finder thingie |
| 03:13.53 | kd3 | kinda disappointed that the group finder doesn't have presets for world bosses |
| 03:14.06 | ccox | I'm still sorting through 60 odd Lua errors on login |
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| 03:17.30 | Gragagrogog_ | kd3: eh... i was hoping queue would be totaly obsolete... |
| 03:17.39 | Gragagrogog_ | *oq |
| 03:18.02 | kd3 | it should be. last I heard tiny said he wasn't updating it for 6.0 |
| 03:20.39 | ccox | I hope that the game functionality replaces it, but we've been teased by Blizz before (outfits, etc.) |
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| 03:22.24 | Gragagrogog_ | well if there is no way to create ie group for challenges, killing SW king, some oldassraid achievements, well still use somethink like that, prolly openraid |
| 03:23.14 | ccox | ok, down to Lua errors on HandyNotes, PetBattleTeams, LightHeaded, Capping, and Outfitter |
| 03:26.11 | ccox | (only six blingtrons setup in shrine of two moons :-) |
| 03:26.23 | Esamynn | only six? |
| 03:26.24 | Esamynn | shocking |
| 03:27.24 | ccox | bagnon with neon blue lines between all the slots -- ARGH, make it stop! |
| 03:28.22 | kullervo | haha I'm so glad EU gets to enjoy someone else crash testing the addons |
| 03:30.14 | fewyn | ccox there's a new beta out for bagnon that fixes that |
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| 03:30.27 | Esamynn | ~fishslap kullervo |
| 03:30.28 | purl | ACTION slaps kullervo up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 03:30.41 | ccox | ok, wowinterface is still showing the version from 9-23 |
| 03:30.47 | ccox | where is the beta version? |
| 03:30.54 | fewyn | it's not on wowinterface |
| 03:30.57 | Gragagrogog_ | my jimmies(addons) were raid ready a month ago from beta |
| 03:30.57 | fewyn | it's on curse |
| 03:31.36 | Thunder_Child | I hope no one actually thought you were talking about your jimmies... |
| 03:31.47 | fewyn | are your jimmies rustled |
| 03:32.07 | Thunder_Child | ~lart fewyn |
| 03:32.07 | purl | moos at fewyn |
| 03:32.22 | Thunder_Child | I was kinda hoping for more than that purl_. |
| 03:34.30 | Shirik | http://www.instructables.com/id/Turn-your-French-fries-back-into-a-potato/?ALLSTEPS |
| 03:35.26 | fewyn | wh..at |
| 03:35.49 | Thunder_Child | Heh. |
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| 03:43.56 | kd3 | I uh |
| 03:49.01 | Simca | anyone know why this doesn't work? http://i.imgur.com/HWtfnxb.png |
| 03:50.30 | ccox | 6.0 seems to have an audio bug with something that sounds like a big train running you over |
| 03:50.49 | Neffi | Simca: because it doesn't return a table |
| 03:51.11 | Neffi | try ({('-'):split(UnitGUID'target')})[6] |
| 03:51.20 | Simca | yeah that isn't working either |
| 03:51.23 | Simca | throws an error |
| 03:51.31 | Neffi | did I miss some grammar? |
| 03:51.53 | Simca | oh i didn't use parentheses around the table brackets |
| 03:52.00 | Simca | it would be silly if that was required though |
| 03:52.01 | Neffi | ({ ('-'):split( UnitGUID'target' ) })[6] -- should be it |
| 03:52.24 | Neffi | yeah, you can't index an argument/return list in Lua. you need to dump it into an array |
| 03:52.50 | Simca | yeah if you remove those outermost parentheses it breaks |
| 03:53.01 | Neffi | {}[6] -- you mean? |
| 03:53.07 | Simca | yes |
| 03:53.09 | Neffi | yeah, I'm pretty sure the compiler doesn't like naked literals |
| 03:53.17 | Neffi | same reason you can't do "-":split() |
| 03:53.26 | Simca | still seems silly, the parentheses technically separate nothing |
| 03:53.29 | Simca | good point though on split |
| 03:53.41 | Neffi | they enclose the literal. just the way the compiler works |
| 03:54.37 | Neffi | I'm all for that changing, but I'm not sure if it would cause ambiguity anywhere, so meh |
| 03:55.35 | Neffi | I find it kinda funny that # doesn't care: #{1} is valid and so is #"1" |
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| 04:00.43 | ccox | already missing my 1mil chaos bolts... |
| 04:00.55 | kd3 | go solo old raids, you can get that back |
| 04:01.46 | Gragagrogog_ | dont worry, you can still kill your mc'd guildmates |
| 04:01.54 | ccox | oh, good |
| 04:02.21 | ccox | cause it's so fun to teamkill the noobs on garrosh |
| 04:07.02 | Gragagrogog_ | wut a disco 30k hps http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fcrXaJnxbLhRQ64V#type=healing&fight=16 thats in line with lvl 100 numbers |
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| 04:18.27 | Neffi | they're taking this thing way too far https://cdn.mediacru.sh/euE4TUuAhAzA.png |
| 04:19.15 | Neffi | A file locker ranks pretty high on the list of places I don't want to useless link to social media :( |
| 04:21.19 | ccox | 14.9k dps on a dungeon - not horrible, but weird |
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| 04:29.47 | Dashkal | Finally home. Time for addon bingo... |
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| 04:39.23 | Dashkal | Heh, yep, it's in exactly the expected shape. |
| 04:42.41 | Esamynn | dumb question, how do I tell the client to STFU about my out of date addons which are "enabled" but not due to my not having selected load out of date? |
| 04:42.46 | Esamynn | or can I? |
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| 04:44.39 | Gethe | enable load out of date |
| 04:44.46 | Esamynn | ... |
| 04:44.54 | Esamynn | yes, you are most helpful :P |
| 04:45.02 | Iriel | Remove the addons that are out of date from your filesystem? |
| 04:45.04 | Gethe | :) |
| 04:46.08 | ccox | wow, bagnon is way busted for guild banks |
| 04:46.46 | ccox | Iriel - under the theory that "rm" removes all bugs from your code? |
| 04:47.04 | Iriel | ccox: rm removes all code from your bugs 8-) |
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| 04:50.45 | Esamynn | Iriel: indeed, very useful! |
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| 05:12.45 | Primer | So, PB4 users...any thoughts on how to get it to work again? |
| 05:13.41 | Primer | The in-game addons UI just doesn't work |
| 05:13.46 | Primer | can't click anything on/off |
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| 05:15.42 | Primer | hrmm, perhaps that was ACP |
| 05:18.46 | Primer | ahh, it's my own PB4 module that's breaking PB4 |
| 05:28.02 | Primer | attempt to call global 'DongleStub' (a nil value) |
| 05:28.03 | Primer | hrmm |
| 05:28.05 | Primer | wtf |
| 05:28.43 | Simca | kittens |
| 05:30.58 | Primer | seems this is related to Astrolabe |
| 05:31.07 | Simca | <ccox> wow, bagnon is way busted for guild banks |
| 05:31.26 | Simca | latest bagnon release broke it entirely; the previous one worked fine |
| 05:31.32 | Esamynn | Primer: got a fix for Astrolabe incoming soonish |
| 05:31.43 | Primer | Esamynn: I'm down for testing it if you need |
| 05:32.11 | Esamynn | sure |
| 05:32.29 | Esamynn | I'll post it in just a sec here |
| 05:33.24 | Primer | I'm going to pull it from its repo now |
| 05:33.28 | Primer | unless you don't plan on using that |
| 05:33.58 | Primer | I'm still using embedded libs from the last packaging of my addon, which is ancient |
| 05:35.05 | Primer | heh, seems the Astrolabe repo hasn't changed in ages too |
| 05:37.14 | ccox | yes, but Esamynn is working on it |
| 05:37.51 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 05:38.49 | bluspacecow | anime watchers/manga readers : Iâm searching for the name of an expression some character sometimes do. - itâs a sort of an expression when they get ultra excite and their eyes glow and the glows goes out in a sort of an X shape |
| 05:39.09 | bluspacecow | but ive having issues finding Albert Chamomile with this expression on his face |
| 05:49.08 | karl_w_w | you know what I think google really needed? |
| 05:49.12 | karl_w_w | another layout change |
| 05:51.35 | Primer | ok, I had forgotten about disembedding Astrolabe from my addon while working on it |
| 05:51.54 | Primer | I have a version that works for what I need |
| 05:51.58 | Primer | so far... |
| 05:52.25 | Primer | Ok, not sure why blizz did this, but all my toons look "sad" |
| 05:52.37 | Esamynn | lol |
| 05:57.15 | Primer | I don't understand why blizz didn't just give more per-character macros as well |
| 05:58.30 | Esamynn | because they hate you |
| 05:58.33 | Esamynn | specifically you |
| 05:59.12 | Esamynn | Primer: posted to SVN |
| 06:00.07 | Esamynn | I'm planning more extensive changes, but I believe this will get things working for right now |
| 06:00.57 | Esamynn | for example, I'm gonna convert to using UnitPosition() |
| 06:05.27 | Primer | ok |
| 06:05.30 | Primer | pulling it down now |
| 06:08.01 | Primer | I already converted my arrow addon to that |
| 06:08.18 | Primer | and rid it of LibMapData |
| 06:10.19 | Esamynn | huzzah! |
| 06:10.43 | Primer | fucking hate windows so much... |
| 06:11.01 | Esamynn | I do apologize for not having an official fix sooner, my schedule just did not mix with Blizzard's this year :/ |
| 06:11.15 | Esamynn | Primer: tell us how you really feel... |
| 06:11.16 | Primer | np |
| 06:11.58 | Primer | So I do this: cd WoW/Interface/Addons; svn co http://svn.esamynn.org/astrolabe/trunk/ Astrolabe |
| 06:12.03 | Primer | run wow...no Astrolabe |
| 06:12.16 | Esamynn | no TOC in the repo |
| 06:13.27 | Primer | except the other disembedded directory I had also lacked a toc |
| 06:13.36 | Primer | err |
| 06:13.37 | Esamynn | odd |
| 06:13.38 | Primer | no it didn't |
| 06:14.16 | Primer | So why no toc? |
| 06:14.44 | Primer | ok, there we go |
| 06:14.57 | Esamynn | what answer would you like? "purist" "lazy" "/shrug" ? ;) |
| 06:18.23 | Esamynn | Primer: I think primarily a mix of purist "library don't need no stinking TOC" and "I don't feel like pushing an update to the repo every damn wow patch" |
| 06:18.37 | Esamynn | aka, lazy |
| 06:19.43 | Sintacks | mmm. 75 addons updates |
| 06:19.49 | Torhal | Sintacks: That's all? |
| 06:20.02 | Sintacks | all that has updates for curse so far |
| 06:22.56 | Primer | Esamynn: well, I've never run Astrolabe disembedded before |
| 06:23.06 | Primer | So it caught me by surprise |
| 06:23.25 | Primer | When pacakged, there's a toc...I wonder how it gets there |
| 06:23.47 | Esamynn | I fake it, because I was tired of curseforge yelling at me about no TOC |
| 06:27.40 | Sintacks | bleh. i have to deal with this stupid upgrade button for a month :| |
| 06:28.20 | Torhal | Welcome to a WoW expansion! |
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| 06:28.33 | Esamynn | such exciting times... |
| 06:28.34 | Sintacks | most people have already bought WoD though. |
| 06:28.42 | Sintacks | can't pre-buy/activate CE :| |
| 06:29.12 | Sintacks | I wonder how many broken addons I have this time. |
| 06:29.17 | Esamynn | Primer: so, what's the good word? |
| 06:29.25 | Torhal | Sintacks: TomTom, definitely. |
| 06:29.51 | Sintacks | hmmm... my textures are missing for my thingy that i can't think of hte name of... |
| 06:29.52 | Primer | Esamynn: it's working so far |
| 06:30.08 | Esamynn | Torhal: has TomTom been abandoned, or am I to blame for no AStrolabe update? :( |
| 06:30.45 | Sintacks | if TomTom dies because astrolabe isn't updated and you are the reason for it, i'll find you and throw paper at you and have a sadface |
| 06:31.19 | Sintacks | 0Message: ..\AddOns\LibMapData-1.0\library.lua line 2297: |
| 06:31.19 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:31.19 | Sintacks | wat |
| 06:31.37 | Esamynn | rofl |
| 06:31.54 | Simca | Sintacks, use latest libmapdata alpha |
| 06:32.05 | Sintacks | k |
| 06:32.08 | Torhal | Esamynn: Pretty sure it was due to Astrolabe. |
| 06:32.20 | Torhal | Plus jnwhiteh being ultra-busy. |
| 06:32.24 | Primer | Although my addon still needs some work to actually use most of the stuff it uses Astrolabe for |
| 06:33.16 | Primer | Such as making it so "modifier"-right-click on the map doesn't zoom the map out |
| 06:33.18 | Esamynn | well, if anyone sees jnwhiteh, tell him I'm sorry, (also ultra busy), but if he wants someone to fix TomTom and push a fix for him he should email me since I've made time to work on this stuff this weekend |
| 06:33.32 | Esamynn | also, a "limping" version of Astrolabe is now posted |
| 06:35.05 | Esamynn | Primer: please send me email if you find any problems at all |
| 06:35.13 | Esamynn | good night |
| 06:35.17 | Primer | will do |
| 06:35.18 | Primer | thanks |
| 06:35.21 | Primer | and good night |
| 06:37.09 | Sintacks | Count: â |
| 06:37.09 | Sintacks | Message: ..\AddOns\Mousetip\Mousetip.lua line 737: |
| 06:37.09 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:37.18 | Sintacks | that's a lot of errors |
| 06:37.51 | haste | bluspacecow: kinda, should have been more places than the bank |
| 06:37.59 | haste | bluspacecow: not sure if it is done for void storage and such |
| 06:39.44 | Sintacks | my UI is just a little bit fucked up, visually, so far. not sure what all is actually fucked up. http://i.imgur.com/DnEcd66.png |
| 06:40.23 | mitch0 | Sintacks: somewhere there needs to be an IsForbidden() check (blind guess) |
| 06:40.36 | Kodiack | I finally started working on my "own" UI. Its layout is similar to SpartanUI, but without all the bugs and clutter >_> |
| 06:40.59 | Sintacks | mitch0, it's in the Mousetip.SetScale() function |
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| 06:47.56 | Constie | Are there any new minimap buttons associated with the new group finder thing? |
| 06:48.54 | Sintacks | wat. no gold for unused VP... what is this |
| 06:49.46 | bluspacecow | haste : less work , less hassle for you amirite (re: oGlow] |
| 06:56.06 | haste | bluspacecow: more when it only does bags :D |
| 06:56.21 | bluspacecow | XD |
| 07:03.03 | runge__ | GetSpecializationInfo <-- does that one always give the same specialization for all players of the same class? |
| 07:03.42 | Kemayo | I will now grumble about how GetItemFamily thinks the reagent bank is a general purpose bag. |
| 07:04.58 | bluspacecow | http://www.tuaw.com/2014/10/14/a-german-man-has-built-a-working-iphone-in-minecraft/ |
| 07:05.00 | bluspacecow | wow |
| 07:05.39 | Kemayo | I mean GetContainerNumFreeSlots, of course. |
| 07:08.40 | Sintacks | my bags aren't working :| |
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| 07:12.54 | Sintacks | Message: ..\AddOns\Bagnon\components\item.lua line 567: |
| 07:12.54 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:12.55 | Sintacks | cries |
| 07:24.53 | Sintacks | okay wtf. the "missing texture" changed from green to ... idk what cuzx i'm colorblind |
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| 07:33.37 | Stanzilla | Simca: yeah I saw, I think it's missing some of your changes though |
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| 07:34.42 | Simca | it is |
| 07:36.06 | Stanzilla | Simca: could just post a patch to wowi comments, I think he reads those |
| 07:42.30 | Elkano | Sintacks, any error? |
| 07:43.42 | Elkano | also, anyone having a tool to convert WoW's db2 files? |
| 07:51.50 | nevcairiel | "convert"? you mean read? |
| 07:52.18 | nevcairiel | foxlit's LuaCasc can read both dbc and db2 |
| 07:52.24 | Kalroth | no convert without reading the files |
| 07:53.51 | relaxok | so.. GlueParent doesnt have a frameStrata defined, yet is inherited all over the place |
| 07:53.52 | Elkano | I did extract them from casc with CascView |
| 07:54.02 | relaxok | the default is parent right? so what would the parent strata of GlueParent be?! |
| 07:54.20 | Elkano | but my old program to convert them to sql doesn't have the updated layout for the files |
| 07:54.32 | Maldivia | Elkano: which db2? |
| 07:54.49 | Elkano | items, item-sparse and maybe itembonus |
| 07:54.49 | bluspacecow | ~dict averrable |
| 07:54.57 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 07:57.38 | bluspacecow | http://www.thefreedictionary.com/averrable |
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| 08:49.04 | Sintacks | Elkano, no errors that I'm seeing so far, actually. |
| 08:49.58 | relaxok | Neffi my good sir |
| 08:50.04 | relaxok | any idea? |
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| 09:00.54 | karl_w_w | it's leviOsa not levioSAH |
| 09:01.13 | Sintacks | sah's karl_w_w |
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| 09:07.18 | znf | Someone needs to fix BagSync :-/ |
| 09:17.37 | karl_w_w | oh look i got a HotS invite |
| 09:19.10 | karl_w_w | arkinventory will do the same thing znf, and iirc you can set it up so that's the only feature enabled |
| 09:19.27 | znf | but arkinventory is a steaming pile of shit |
| 09:19.38 | znf | which I moved away from >_< |
| 09:43.04 | Mr_Rabies | altoholic does it but also doesn't work |
| 09:43.14 | Mr_Rabies | yet :v |
| 09:54.17 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14881868358#6 |
| 09:54.27 | bluspacecow | I thought CASC was a file system ? |
| 09:54.46 | bluspacecow | oh well /shrug possibly nothing to do with battlegrounds being down. not sure donât work for Blizzard |
| 09:57.17 | nevcairiel | its kinda like a file system, but i guess thats up for debate |
| 10:08.37 | Alram | > It is basically "how do they store and reference the game assets on your computer" |
| 10:08.43 | Alram | he is sorta defining a file system there |
| 10:08.46 | Alram | ?? |
| 10:09.37 | nevcairiel | guess he expects a file system to actually be on a drive |
| 10:10.38 | Alram | yeah then its not i guess |
| 10:10.52 | Alram | indeed up for debate |
| 10:13.10 | Mr_Rabies | so |
| 10:13.14 | Mr_Rabies | there's a pretty neat warlock bug |
| 10:13.20 | Mr_Rabies | where the character never logs out |
| 10:13.43 | Mr_Rabies | and if you break it just right the character can't do anything but stand in place, logged in or not |
| 10:14.05 | Mr_Rabies | a friend of mine was floating over the lava infront of firelands forever |
| 10:14.18 | Mr_Rabies | literally like 4hours |
| 10:14.29 | Mr_Rabies | he'd get an achievement on his alt and his main would broadcast it to guild as well |
| 10:27.07 | karl_w_w | so whiplash, guardians of the galaxy, or gone girl. anybody got any opinions on any of them? |
| 10:27.58 | Maldivia | if you haven't seen guardians, go see it |
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| 10:34.44 | Alram | guardians is good |
| 10:39.59 | bluspacecow | Groot? |
| 10:40.51 | Kesava | Stanzilla: .. does knp work? |
| 10:42.39 | Stanzilla | Kesava: yes |
| 10:42.50 | Kesava | good good |
| 10:43.20 | Kesava | it wasn't for me, i updated ace3 then it worked but git says there's no difference. |
| 10:43.29 | Kesava | addons are being a bit weird. |
| 10:50.47 | jleclanche | anyone on wine managed to patch to 6.x? |
| 10:53.04 | Gragagrogog_ | heh, frame strata bug still not fixed :D |
| 10:53.22 | nevcairiel | blame Guillotine |
| 10:53.42 | znf | Anyone figured out how to do sound replacement anymore? |
| 10:54.23 | Alram | put in main wow dir |
| 10:54.32 | Alram | and get one of those exes with local file loading enabled |
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| 11:32.43 | Elkano | Blizzard failed... there are still +hit items in game ^^ |
| 11:33.33 | rid_ | eh karl_w_w me too :o |
| 11:38.50 | Elkano | also at least one (unobtainable) item with expertise |
| 11:40.50 | Mr_Rabies | wonder what those actually do |
| 11:40.54 | Mr_Rabies | my guess is nothing but |
| 11:41.02 | Mr_Rabies | interesting to find out |
| 11:44.57 | Elkano | the one with hit is a offhand book made by inscription |
| 11:48.04 | Semlar | is glyph of play dead not obtainable or does my high pop merged auction house just happen to not have it |
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| 12:19.08 | karl_w_w | i've worked out why chamber of secrets is the worst harry potter |
| 12:19.52 | karl_w_w | it's because there's no reason they have to get involved |
| 12:20.19 | Semlar | meddling kids |
| 12:20.52 | karl_w_w | in every other book they're pretty much forced into it |
| 12:21.51 | karl_w_w | especially at the end just before they go into the chamber, they could have just told the professors |
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| 12:23.08 | Lopeppeppy | Bonjour, bonjour. |
| 12:24.03 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:24.27 | karl_w_w | Papier-mâché, papier-mâché. |
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| 12:28.23 | Lopeppeppy | We are having fun today. Just thought you should know. |
| 12:29.37 | Fisker | \0/ |
| 12:29.54 | Fisker | \o/* |
| 12:30.02 | Fisker | What kind of fun? |
| 12:30.57 | Fisker | Cairenn is having no fun :( |
| 12:33.51 | rid_ | hey Fisker |
| 12:34.06 | Fisker | Hey rid_ |
| 12:34.15 | rid_ | how are you? |
| 12:34.29 | rid_ | :( |
| 12:34.36 | Fisker | Hi |
| 12:34.51 | rid_ | :o |
| 12:34.57 | Fisker | :) |
| 12:35.04 | rid_ | Hi on drugs |
| 12:35.35 | Fisker | Nope |
| 12:35.43 | Fisker | Never drugs |
| 12:37.38 | Kalroth | say yes to saying no to saying yes to saying no to drugs |
| 12:38.05 | Fisker | Yes |
| 12:41.01 | karl_w_w | if you're talking to drugs you're already too far gone |
| 12:42.44 | Lopeppeppy | I am high on caffeine, that's a drug, does it count? |
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| 12:49.17 | Elkano | and I found a bug in Blizzard's code \o/ |
| 12:49.29 | Semlar | amazing |
| 12:49.49 | Elkano | see: guild frame, perks, background inset |
| 12:50.06 | Elkano | it has the wrong size due to them keeping the wrong offset |
| 12:50.35 | bluspacecow | nah. its when the drugs talk back is when its way too fgar |
| 12:54.54 | karl_w_w | wow a bug in blizzard's code? |
| 12:55.04 | karl_w_w | that's never happened before :P |
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| 13:00.11 | Elkano | their new GuildUI code is currently driving me insane a bit... |
| 13:17.45 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/velen/Crackers/simple |
| 13:17.55 | bluspacecow | lol derpession era hobo |
| 13:23.51 | Stanzilla | foxlit: can you call the random mount spell via a macro? |
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| 13:25.23 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: /run C_MountJournal.Summon(0) is for a random favorite mount |
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| 13:26.20 | Stanzilla | nice thanks |
| 13:26.51 | Stanzilla | so it's either running a macro again or asking foxlit to implement a feature that does a [mounted] dismount; for the spell |
| 13:27.52 | nevcairiel | its /dismount [mounted] |
| 13:29.19 | Stanzilla | yeh yeh! |
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| 13:31.43 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: next thing, is it /exitvehicle [vehicle]? |
| 13:35.58 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: /leavevehicle |
| 13:36.12 | Kesava | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.20 | Kesava | woo consistent |
| 13:36.29 | Stanzilla | thanks |
| 13:39.33 | Stanzilla | but [vehicle] was right? |
| 13:39.44 | nevcairiel | should be yeah |
| 13:40.36 | Stanzilla | and what is the opposite of [mounted], [notmounted]? |
| 13:40.45 | nevcairiel | "no" inverts everything |
| 13:41.27 | Stanzilla | good |
| 13:42.26 | Stanzilla | cant use that with run though |
| 13:42.37 | Stanzilla | so IsMounted() |
| 13:44.36 | Stanzilla | and it's vehicleui |
| 13:44.38 | Stanzilla | all good |
| 13:46.25 | Stanzilla | 2x FrameXML\UnitPopup.lua:2001: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)FrameXML\UnitPopup.lua:2001: in function `SetRaidDifficulties' |
| 13:46.30 | Stanzilla | blizzard please :( |
| 13:52.29 | karl_w_w | wasnt blizzard working on a small game? |
| 13:52.49 | karl_w_w | i thought we heard about something late last year or something that they were starting on |
| 13:52.57 | karl_w_w | either that or my memory has gone back in time |
| 13:58.13 | Stanzilla | karl_w_w: heroes of the storm? |
| 14:04.16 | bluspacecow | is it possible for addons to crash so hard they do a /console reloadui ? |
| 14:06.23 | haste | add-ons can call ReloadUI() if they feel like it |
| 14:06.28 | haste | no real reason for them to do it tho' |
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| 14:12.59 | bluspacecow | thanks haste |
| 14:13.22 | mikma | foxlit: opie 6.0.2? :P |
| 14:20.12 | bluspacecow | okays i is running out of energy here. |
| 14:20.19 | bluspacecow | hi wobin bye wobin |
| 14:20.26 | bluspacecow | it r sleepy tiem *steals Fisker* |
| 14:22.55 | karl_w_w | so i have new spectacles |
| 14:23.11 | karl_w_w | but the outside edges of the lenses aren't frosted |
| 14:23.44 | karl_w_w | seems the people who made them never heard of total internal reflection |
| 14:25.09 | Kesava | is that the thing that makes bright colours drift around or something |
| 14:25.43 | Kesava | (well i know what it is in terms of fibre glass but i'm not sure what effect that would have with glasses) |
| 14:25.59 | karl_w_w | no it's what makes you see reflections when you look at the edge of a piece of glass from the inside |
| 14:26.08 | Kesava | ah yes |
| 14:28.42 | Kesava | i don't wear glasses so i wouldn't know about this but i've heard of an effect where bright colours will drift around different somewhat |
| 14:28.55 | Kesava | differently* |
| 14:29.04 | Kesava | at the edges. |
| 14:30.28 | karl_w_w | chromatic aberration |
| 14:31.28 | foxlit | mikma: http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/opie#c498 |
| 14:31.31 | Kesava | that'll be it |
| 14:31.57 | karl_w_w | when you're looking at something that's not directly in front of you the side closer to the middle of the lens is bluer and further away is yellower |
| 14:32.17 | karl_w_w | I don't find it that noticable |
| 14:32.39 | mikma | foxlit: thanks |
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| 14:43.49 | [TOM_RUS] | new group finder sucks, can't filter specific raids/dungeons etc, locked to battlegroup, doesn't show all groups at once, list goes on... |
| 14:46.11 | nevcairiel | of course you can filter specific raids |
| 14:46.19 | nevcairiel | there is a search box for that |
| 14:47.16 | nevcairiel | its a bit unintuive to use since you need to enter text, even though it has autocomplete then |
| 14:48.59 | foxlit | it bugs me that thereâs no GetNumMacroSlots() or something. |
| 14:49.13 | Semlar | GetsNumFoxlitSlots |
| 14:49.22 | foxlit | back under the bridge, Semlar. |
| 14:49.28 | Semlar | hiss! |
| 14:50.37 | Semlar | i wonder how many players are in one battlegroup |
| 14:51.03 | Semlar | i imagine it's probably enough to find a group for something that you're trying to do |
| 14:51.55 | Semlar | still, a larger pool couldn't hurt |
| 14:55.32 | karl_w_w | it does give someone of an advantage to being on my battlegroup |
| 14:55.53 | Semlar | of course, you're in it |
| 14:55.55 | karl_w_w | seeing as half the realms are oceanic time and half are US west |
| 14:56.05 | karl_w_w | so there's no dead time |
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| 15:34.12 | [TOM_RUS] | nevcairiel, really? what a stupid way of filtering... |
| 15:40.34 | nevcairiel | i agree its kinda silly |
| 15:40.36 | nevcairiel | we should just bug Guillotine to improve on it |
| 15:40.36 | nevcairiel | raids should filter using some intuitive UI, and not a text box |
| 15:40.46 | nevcairiel | although an addon can potentially do that, i guess |
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| 15:53.19 | VIad | can't we extend the features of the awesome built in system like how oqueue used realid to grow the mesh network? |
| 15:53.39 | VIad | if there is an issue with the reach not being large enough like oqueue :p |
| 15:58.09 | VIad | ah, the joy of backing up Interface and WTF to 7z and deleting them to start fresh! :D |
| 16:01.41 | Simca | it is locked to your battlegroup, so everyone in the same group finder will have the same reach |
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| 16:20.45 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/QIi1awY.jpg this is the page i get when i visit wowhead for the first time in a while, and then it works after trying again |
| 16:21.02 | Semlar | i think it has an issue checking if you're actually logged in |
| 16:21.32 | Simca | clearly you've been banned |
| 16:21.38 | pompy | Semlar: #wowhead |
| 16:22.32 | VIad | Xuerian: I thought XLoot 1.0 was the new shit but it seems you keep updating XLoot :p |
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| 16:47.16 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: ping |
| 16:56.02 | jleclanche | does "ExportInterfaceFiles art" still work? |
| 16:56.18 | Simca | it should; they fixed it recently |
| 16:58.15 | Ssateneth | So, with this new C_Timer.After function.. |
| 16:59.05 | Ssateneth | Is it at all possible to run an arbitrary LUA code snippet instead of having to resort to manually create a randomly named global function and call the function? |
| 16:59.50 | Simca | yeah |
| 17:00.05 | Simca | but if you don't care about the timing, you could do that already |
| 17:00.21 | Ssateneth | Don't want to bother with Ace :P |
| 17:00.24 | Simca | (function() blah blah end)() |
| 17:00.35 | Simca | creates and immediately calls a function |
| 17:00.40 | Ssateneth | Well, I do want to run it at a later time |
| 17:00.53 | Ssateneth | like... hmm example... |
| 17:01.00 | nevcairiel | jleclanche: pong |
| 17:01.12 | nevcairiel | and yes, art export should work, it just takes quite a bit |
| 17:01.20 | jleclanche | how long? |
| 17:01.42 | Ssateneth | Lets say I want to make a new function that utilizes the C_Timer.After function, but look a bit nicer, and be able to delay and run LUA code snippets. |
| 17:02.04 | Ssateneth | function In(seconds, code) |
| 17:02.32 | Ssateneth | What would be required to pass off the "code" and run it after "seconds" seconds? |
| 17:02.36 | nevcairiel | jleclanche: how ever long it takes for around 600mb of artwork to be written on your hdd |
| 17:02.46 | Ssateneth | So if I do like In(5, print("Hello")) |
| 17:02.53 | Ssateneth | it should print("Hello") after 5 seconds |
| 17:03.05 | nevcairiel | Ssateneth: thats impossible syntax to implement |
| 17:03.14 | Ssateneth | Hmm. |
| 17:03.32 | Ssateneth | So I have to surround it with quotes, no way of getting around that? |
| 17:03.40 | nevcairiel | you can do In(5, function() print("Hello") end) |
| 17:04.36 | nevcairiel | but thats the same as C_Timer.After(5, function() print("Hello") end) |
| 17:04.44 | Ssateneth | yeah, could.. pretty wordy though |
| 17:04.50 | Ssateneth | Trying to shorten it some |
| 17:05.01 | Ssateneth | Trying to load WoW and get my current iteration up |
| 17:05.07 | nevcairiel | you can also do In(5, [[print("Hello")]]) |
| 17:05.13 | Simca | isn't there a lua command to parse code |
| 17:05.24 | nevcairiel | sure, but then the code needs to be a string |
| 17:05.28 | nevcairiel | and you need to quote it etc |
| 17:05.52 | Simca | that shouldn't be an issue |
| 17:06.15 | Ssateneth | function In(seconds, code) code = loadstring(code) C_Timer.After(seconds, code) end |
| 17:06.20 | Ssateneth | Its close to what I want |
| 17:06.29 | Ssateneth | But requires quoting the LUA code snippet |
| 17:06.52 | Ssateneth | Probably the closest I will get. |
| 17:06.53 | Simca | the alternatives [[]] and function() end are more unwieldy |
| 17:07.46 | Ssateneth | So it's more or less "You've gotten it the best you can, just deal with it" |
| 17:08.20 | Ssateneth | I guess the problem is preventing the code from being run until later, since if unquoted, it evaluates the code |
| 17:08.30 | Ssateneth | Sorry for what may be idiot/noob questions |
| 17:09.02 | Semlar | C_Timer.After(5, function() print("Hello") end) this is the best format |
| 17:09.18 | Semlar | not sure what you're after |
| 17:09.51 | Semlar | if this is in an addon and you want to reference the same function i multiple places then assign it to a variable |
| 17:09.57 | Ssateneth | The aim is to type less :P |
| 17:10.18 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: thanks =) |
| 17:10.21 | Ssateneth | C_Timer.After(5, function() print("Hello") end) is much longer than In(5,"print('Hello')") |
| 17:10.35 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: also it seems to be 1.4GB |
| 17:10.44 | Semlar | yes but "In" is an ace function |
| 17:10.50 | nevcairiel | i just pulled a number out of my ass to be honest |
| 17:10.57 | nevcairiel | Semlar: its not, not ace3 in any case |
| 17:11.01 | jleclanche | that must be why it didnt smell right |
| 17:11.06 | Semlar | well then i have no idea where you're getting "In" from |
| 17:11.14 | nevcairiel | he wants to create it, i guess |
| 17:11.40 | Semlar | you're going to spend more time implementing all that then just typing out the function |
| 17:12.18 | Semlar | it's also going to be more confusing to the person reading it |
| 17:14.21 | Constie | Premature elegance. |
| 17:16.09 | Semlar | any time "loadstring" starts looking like a viable solution you may want to take a step back and reconsider what you're doing |
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| 17:38.17 | jnwhiteh | Esamynn|Away: Could use some help |
| 17:38.22 | jnwhiteh | but I'll try to look at it the next few nights |
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| 18:01.43 | Neffi | <Ssateneth> C_Timer.After(5, function() print("Hello") end) is much longer than In(5,"print('Hello')") <- but this is the correct way to do it. why do you care how long it is? |
| 18:01.53 | Neffi | loadstring() to save characters is downright terrible, and also inefficient |
| 18:02.10 | Neffi | I explained first class functions and all in #lua last time you asked <_< |
| 18:09.05 | Semlar | alright neffi i'm writing an addon that needs to track how many times your character sits on or near another player in your raid |
| 18:09.21 | Semlar | why is not important |
| 18:09.54 | Semlar | is there any way to determine whether you're currently standing or sitting |
| 18:10.10 | Neffi | I have no idea, but I'm more interested in why |
| 18:11.03 | VIad | Semlar: Message: Interface\AddOns\CrackCooldown\core.lua:152: Attempt to access forbidden object from code tainted by an AddOn |
| 18:11.25 | Semlar | there is no way the version i uploaded to curse throws that |
| 18:11.46 | Semlar | did you update it? |
| 18:12.25 | VIad | ran curse client 30 min ago |
| 18:12.27 | VIad | or 60 |
| 18:12.28 | VIad | :p |
| 18:12.48 | Semlar | do you have 2.1 of crack cooldown |
| 18:13.31 | VIad | fixing :3 |
| 18:13.33 | VIad | was on ignored |
| 18:14.02 | VIad | because I want it to use other settings and your toc doesn't load a custom lua file for custom settings :( |
| 18:14.22 | Semlar | SETTINGS ARE A CRUTCH |
| 18:15.04 | VIad | nah easy way is |
| 18:15.07 | VIad | toc includes settings file |
| 18:15.11 | VIad | you don't bundle it |
| 18:15.15 | VIad | or you do but as .example or something |
| 18:15.19 | VIad | and use namespace to inject |
| 18:15.22 | VIad | load before core |
| 18:15.36 | VIad | those that can will rename the file, the toc will load it, and future updates won't overwrite the settings |
| 18:16.05 | Semlar | yeah well updates don't overwrite my settings, they only overwrite your customizations |
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| 18:16.12 | Neffi | or you can do what I like to do |
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| 18:16.20 | Neffi | "fork and rewrite if you wanna configure" |
| 18:16.26 | Neffi | ;) |
| 18:16.32 | Semlar | that's unsanitary |
| 18:17.35 | Neffi | only if you don't clean your hands |
| 18:17.50 | VIad | I cope. but would be nice to at least allow settings to be overwritten from another lua file that the user creates, so updates don't wreck user preferences. unless you want to implement profile system :P |
| 18:19.13 | Constie | That's a neat thing that EventHorizon does, reading things from myconfig.lua instead of config.lua if you provide it. |
| 18:19.56 | Semlar | i barely support settings as it is |
| 18:21.05 | relaxok | Neffi: i had a question for you earlier |
| 18:21.30 | relaxok | Neffi: if a frame defines no framestrata, it supposedly defaults to PARENT.. but what if the parent doesn't define one and so forth? |
| 18:21.37 | relaxok | Neffi: or if there is no parent |
| 18:22.01 | zenzelezz | can you not show the quest log without the map now? |
| 18:22.33 | Semlar | nope |
| 18:22.42 | Semlar | that is the quest log |
| 18:22.44 | TC-Work | Thats not cool |
| 18:23.04 | relaxok | Neffi: example.. AccountLogin.. no strata defined.. parent is GlueParent.. no strata defined in that either |
| 18:23.10 | relaxok | Nefi: and no parent of GlueParent |
| 18:23.52 | Semlar | i'm trying to determine the shortest amount of time between presses of the "sit" button that your character actually responds to it |
| 18:24.03 | Semlar | i think it's about half a second |
| 18:24.36 | Constie | That sounds about right to me. |
| 18:24.59 | Semlar | i think it's almost exactly half a second |
| 18:25.17 | Semlar | this should be good enough, anyway |
| 18:25.47 | VIad | Semlar: nice you added UI for 2.1 :p |
| 18:25.48 | VIad | btw |
| 18:25.57 | VIad | where in your code can I easily remove the border color? |
| 18:26.20 | Constie | I've mashed it to sit down for as many hits as possible to die faster during wipes, because min/maxing. |
| 18:26.50 | Semlar | vlad: add timer.border:Hide() above "return timer" in the actiontimer function |
| 18:26.56 | VIad | danke |
| 18:27.21 | Sharparam | hm |
| 18:27.53 | Sharparam | guid:match("^%w+-0-%d+-%d+-%d+-(%d+)-[A-Z%d]+$") <- this doesn't work for parsing GUIDs for some reason, returns nil |
| 18:28.05 | Semlar | i'm trying to track how many times you teabag someone before they release, i want to get the parameters right |
| 18:28.16 | VIad | :D |
| 18:29.00 | Semlar | just do local x, y, z = strsplit('-', guid) |
| 18:29.20 | TC-Work | ~lart Semlar |
| 18:29.20 | purl | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in Semlar's direction, hitting Semlar and sending Semlar flying into the closet |
| 18:29.29 | Sharparam | that's a workaround, but why wouldn't this work |
| 18:29.34 | Sharparam | i don't see why it wouldn't :d |
| 18:29.35 | Semlar | depends on the guid |
| 18:29.50 | Semlar | give us the guid you're running it on |
| 18:30.03 | Sharparam | Creature-0-1084-1-46-42859-00013EB8F0 |
| 18:30.14 | Semlar | you have to escape - |
| 18:30.30 | Semlar | it's a special character |
| 18:30.34 | Semlar | %- |
| 18:30.44 | Sharparam | even outside of character classes? |
| 18:30.47 | Sharparam | god damnit lua |
| 18:30.52 | Semlar | especially outside of character classes.. |
| 18:31.02 | Sharparam | what's its meaning outside of a character class |
| 18:31.09 | Semlar | lazy match |
| 18:31.13 | Sharparam | ah |
| 18:31.15 | Semlar | shortest possible string |
| 18:31.21 | Sharparam | so like ? in regex |
| 18:31.26 | Sharparam | .*? |
| 18:31.33 | Semlar | yeah |
| 18:31.52 | Semlar | although i have no idea what +- would do in lua |
| 18:32.09 | Sharparam | steal your children |
| 18:32.43 | TC-Work | Hah, no one would give Semlar children. |
| 18:32.48 | Sharparam | there, now it's working. ty :P |
| 18:33.08 | Semlar | i'd still use strsplit though, it's a lot faster and less prone to breaking |
| 18:33.43 | Sharparam | well |
| 18:33.50 | Sharparam | if this breaks it means the GUID format has changed |
| 18:34.03 | Sharparam | (again) |
| 18:34.09 | Sharparam | why did blizz change from : to - anyway |
| 18:34.18 | Sharparam | who uses a dash for value separation? |
| 18:34.24 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure because : is the delimiter in hyperlinks |
| 18:34.33 | Semlar | which would cause serious problems |
| 18:35.04 | Semlar | links in the chat |
| 18:35.12 | Semlar | you can link a unit |
| 18:35.27 | Sharparam | ah yeah |
| 18:35.56 | zenzelezz | this may be a stupid question, but why are my abilities suddenly doing damage/healing as if I was level 10, not 69? |
| 18:36.11 | Semlar | the stat squish? |
| 18:36.13 | TC-Work | Number squish |
| 18:36.36 | Constie | http://wowpedia.org/Stat_squish |
| 18:36.38 | TC-Work | Try to follow along zenzelezz. |
| 18:36.44 | zenzelezz | so it's intentional that I'm toast if I engage more than one enemy at once anymore? |
| 18:36.58 | Sharparam | enemies are squished too |
| 18:36.59 | Semlar | no |
| 18:37.08 | Semlar | you aren't supposed to be dying to mobs you could kill before |
| 18:37.11 | TC-Work | Mmmm, toast. |
| 18:37.13 | Constie | Relative power levels aren't supposed to have changed. |
| 18:39.30 | zenzelezz | I'm going to have to read into this I guess; it sure feels like it takes ten times as long to kill a mob |
| 18:39.37 | zenzelezz | or keep myself at health |
| 18:39.50 | Constie | Although there was a blue post calling for reports of mobs that haven't been properly squished so they can be hotfixed. Possibly you've found one of those. |
| 18:40.13 | Sharparam | is Torhal / any other curseforge admin here? |
| 18:43.12 | Kaelten | Sharparam: sup |
| 18:43.53 | Sharparam | Kaelten: i don't know if you know about it. but a long time ago the Chocobo repo was messed up after pushing too many tags. supposedly it's supposed to be fixed now so i can push new tags to it (one at a time) |
| 18:44.04 | Sharparam | but i wanna check with an admin first before i re-enable packaging :P |
| 18:46.34 | zenzelezz | I'll agree that killing mobs in three hits may have been a bit low for leveling, but 17 seems excessive |
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| 18:47.35 | Kaelten | hrm that'd be a better question for Torhal |
| 18:47.55 | Semlar | you said you were level 69, are you fighting wrath mobs? |
| 18:48.13 | jnwhiteh | Esamynn|Away: Freel free to email me, I'm not on IRC all that much at work |
| 18:48.28 | Torhal | Kaelten: Actually would be a better question for prencher. |
| 18:49.46 | Semlar | i don't know if the massive stat difference between expansions still exists |
| 18:50.00 | zenzelezz | Semlar: level 69, fighting a 68 in Howling Fjord. Granted I'm Holy pala, it still feels wrong |
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| 18:50.43 | Semlar | heirlooms wouldn't start scaling to the new expansion's stats until you hit 70, before |
| 18:50.54 | zenzelezz | I'm not using heirlooms |
| 18:51.10 | Semlar | yeah, but if they're using that logic for the stat scaling then you may not be hitting hard enough for wrath mobs |
| 18:51.25 | zenzelezz | fighting the same mobs today that I did yesterday |
| 18:51.47 | foxlit | Semlar: those cliffs no longer exist |
| 18:51.54 | zenzelezz | I'm perfectly aware I may just be woefully misunderstanding the squash |
| 18:52.06 | Semlar | are you sure, because they made it so fighting lower level mobs scales up your damage to let you still kill raids |
| 18:52.20 | foxlit | that requires like a 10 level difference. |
| 18:52.39 | Semlar | so it would be logical that fighting mobs from the next expansion would have your damage reduced |
| 18:52.46 | Semlar | but who knows |
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| 18:53.16 | Semlar | the only evidence i have is someone complaining about not being able to kill the same mobs they could kill yesterday |
| 18:53.19 | zenzelezz | going to trail these blue posts and see if anything changes tomorrow |
| 18:53.27 | Semlar | so i'm basing my assumption on that |
| 18:54.08 | Semlar | they may have reduced your damage as a holy paladin, they may have screwed up the stat scaling for people leveling, there are a lot of factors |
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| 18:54.45 | zenzelezz | "Thank you to those who stayed on subject and provided information about your experience, you've helped us a lot! A hotfix is in the works to address the leveling experience. ", 23 minutes ago. Sounds like maybe I am actually not hallucinating, but I'll refrain from making that assumption. I'm wrong often enough :-p |
| 18:55.19 | Neffi | relaxok: log in and do: /dump CreateFrame('Frame'):GetFrameStrata() |
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| 18:56.37 | Neffi | relaxok: might also check WorldFrame:GetFrameStrata() |
| 18:56.50 | Semlar | pretty sure it's World |
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| 18:56.59 | Semlar | i wouldn't look at the worldframe's strata |
| 18:57.14 | Neffi | he wants to make a guess at what the strata of the glueparent would be |
| 18:57.19 | Semlar | it has something you can't set anything else to |
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| 18:57.30 | Neffi | it's not defined, so it's either the default strata, or what's given to worldframe |
| 18:58.08 | Semlar | i don't know if he even has a warcraft subscription, he's just copying the game |
| 18:58.50 | Neffi | looks at Nexus 6 specs. |
| 18:58.55 | Semlar | the default frame strata is medium |
| 18:58.55 | Neffi | holy hell, I want it |
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| 18:59.16 | Neffi | no, he said he plays the game also |
| 18:59.17 | TC-Work | You sound like Fisker. |
| 18:59.30 | Neffi | TC-Work: Big phones tickle me in a special place |
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| 18:59.37 | TC-Work | Also like Fisker. |
| 18:59.38 | Neffi | Big hands, bad eyes. I love the big screen. |
| 18:59.49 | Semlar | you want it in your pants |
| 18:59.58 | TC-Work | Screen is not big enough though. |
| 18:59.59 | Neffi | i don't know if it would fit! |
| 19:00.01 | Neffi | ... in my pocket |
| 19:00.18 | Semlar | is that a nexus 6 in your pocket or are you just happy to see me |
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| 19:00.44 | Neffi | that ppi is kind of crazy though. I'd prefer 1080p or even 720p. i dont get the point of the ppi race. it's like they're competing to see who can drain the most battery |
| 19:02.04 | foxlit | either that or who can make a screen that looks better than the rest. |
| 19:02.14 | Torhal | Sharparam: I don't recall, since that was over a year ago. Best I can say is try and if stuff breaks we'll pick up the pieces. |
| 19:02.54 | Sharparam | ok then :P |
| 19:02.58 | Sharparam | after ubrs ^^ |
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| 19:06.52 | relaxok | i have a sub =P |
| 19:07.07 | relaxok | Semlar: are you sure the default frame strata isn't parent? |
| 19:07.16 | relaxok | i'm going to do what neffi suggested in a sec |
| 19:09.34 | Semlar | it inherits the parent frame's strata |
| 19:10.17 | Semlar | but no frame can have the same strata as WorldFrame, and if it has no parent then the strata is MEDIUM |
| 19:13.05 | Fisker | https://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3qqxb5P2r1r03eaxo1_500.jpg <- is it really that time again Shirik ? (NSFW) |
| 19:13.37 | relaxok | Semlar: oh I see. |
| 19:13.56 | relaxok | Semlar: that sounds right |
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| 19:15.39 | relaxok | GlueParent is probably MEDIUM then and everything below that |
| 19:15.43 | relaxok | also |
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| 19:17.58 | Semlar | neffi what do you suppose a decent teabag radius is relative to the corpse |
| 19:18.10 | Neffi | . . . |
| 19:18.20 | Semlar | a couple yards? |
| 19:19.04 | Semlar | how tall is a player |
| 19:19.16 | Neffi | let's just say 2 yards |
| 19:19.26 | Semlar | 2 yard teabag radius? |
| 19:19.35 | Semlar | alright |
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| 19:19.48 | Semlar | i'm estimating about 1 bag per second as the max rate |
| 19:20.35 | Semlar | the sit command doesn't seem to register more often than once every 0.5 seconds |
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| 19:21.08 | Semlar | so if we assume they're spamming the sit command we want to only register valid ones |
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| 19:22.22 | Semlar | i'll need to implement addon comms so we can broadcast to the guild |
| 19:22.23 | TC-Work | Semlar: No. There is no acceptable range. |
| 19:22.31 | TC-Work | This is not a 'close counts' |
| 19:23.11 | Semlar | well, we have to make some assumptions to be able to count these from an addon |
| 19:23.33 | TC-Work | Also the addon would have to self disable on a female character. |
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| 19:23.51 | Semlar | i think we were calling them clam slams |
| 19:24.33 | Semlar | .. |
| 19:24.42 | TC-Work | Acceptable. |
| 19:24.53 | Constie | Alternately, also make a TruckNutz addon that does nothing except make sits count for female characters. |
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| 19:25.09 | Constie | Please don't do that. |
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| 19:26.57 | Semlar | i'll probably have to do some number tuning in game |
| 19:27.41 | Sharparam | hm |
| 19:27.49 | Sharparam | are mp3's completely disabled now? |
| 19:27.58 | Semlar | oggs seem to be the only format |
| 19:28.06 | Sharparam | time to do some converting |
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| 19:32.34 | Primer | Anyone have a good site that recommends talents/glyphs for all classes for 6.0? |
| 19:32.47 | Primer | tired of searching and finding conflicting suggestions |
| 19:33.01 | nevcairiel | there is no definitive answer anymore really |
| 19:33.10 | Kesava | (guys is it possible to get straight to flex 4 now?) |
| 19:33.15 | nevcairiel | Kesava: no |
| 19:33.18 | Kesava | oh. |
| 19:33.43 | nevcairiel | all raids work the same way now, walk in the front door |
| 19:33.45 | nevcairiel | except LFR of course |
| 19:33.55 | Constie | I assume Icy Veins has recommendations for everyone, and I'm told the Shadow one is approved by Twintop, so that might actually be good and then others might also actually be good. |
| 19:34.19 | Esamynn|work | Kesava: what is this "flex" you speak of? :P |
| 19:34.27 | Kesava | normal whatevs |
| 19:36.48 | Sharparam | Esamynn|work: /flex |
| 19:37.11 | Esamynn|work | ~cheeseslap Sharparam |
| 19:37.11 | purl | ACTION slaps Sharparam around with a piece of gouda |
| 19:37.15 | Sharparam | :3 |
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| 19:45.44 | Sharparam | hm |
| 19:46.23 | Sharparam | PlaySoundFile plays the ogg, but not PlayMusic. was something changed? |
| 19:52.21 | Simca | Sound and Music have been separated, Sharparam |
| 19:52.34 | Sharparam | which means? |
| 19:53.00 | Simca | there are independent volume controls for them now, and presumably PlayMusic only plays music as identified by the dbcs |
| 19:53.34 | Sharparam | well, i can't use PlaySoundFile, as it doesn't suppress currently playing game music |
| 19:54.22 | Simca | well with independent volume controls, surely you can just mute the music while yours plays |
| 19:54.56 | Primer | Ok, shouldn't addons load disembedded libs with higher minor numbers in favor of their embedded, lower minor numbered libs? |
| 19:55.05 | Sharparam | we have had separated volumes for a while though |
| 19:55.19 | Sharparam | and as I don't know the length of each file, i can't suppress it manually |
| 19:55.21 | Primer | Because right now I've got Astrolabe 161 from svn as its own addon, yet tomtom is still loading its embedded lib |
| 19:56.13 | nevcairiel | astrolabe doesnt have a toc, you cant run it standalone afaik |
| 19:56.19 | Primer | I added a toc |
| 19:56.24 | Xuerian | VIad: 1.0 and all the modules got merged back into XLoot |
| 19:56.50 | nevcairiel | Primer: maybe its just not designed for this |
| 19:56.52 | nevcairiel | ask Esamynn|work |
| 19:56.59 | Primer | I did, but here |
| 19:57.00 | nevcairiel | or easier, overwrite the version in tomtom |
| 19:57.56 | Primer | I'm mostly curious about why it's not using the unembedded version. Looks like tomtom has other issues outside of Astrolabe anyhow |
| 19:58.09 | Esamynn|work | Primer: it works the way you are expecting in my environment, but I haven't tossed in TomTom yet |
| 19:58.31 | Esamynn|work | but yes, it should behaving just like other embedded libs in that regard |
| 19:59.28 | Primer | So if you embed, and tell it to load the embedded lib, it'll always load the embedded lib regardless of there being a higher version unembedded lib? |
| 19:59.35 | Primer | I guess that was my confusion |
| 19:59.48 | nevcairiel | thats not how other embedded libs would behave, so the answer should be no :p |
| 19:59.57 | Esamynn|work | no, it should only load the embedded version if there isn't already a matching or higher version loaded |
| 20:00.34 | Primer | so confused... |
| 20:00.48 | Esamynn|work | so I'm not sure why you're not ending up with 161 |
| 20:01.17 | Primer | The embedded minor version is 160, as I would have expected |
| 20:01.31 | Primer | My addon is using the unembedded one |
| 20:01.42 | Primer | but tomtom is using its embedded one |
| 20:01.47 | Esamynn|work | odd |
| 20:02.38 | Simca | doesn't LibStub provide an optional secondary argument to force the selected revision to load? or something like that |
| 20:02.43 | Primer | 1x TomTom\libs\Astrolabe\Astrolabe.lua:1255: Usage: SetMapZoom(continentIndex [,zoneIndex]) .. requested continent out of bounds |
| 20:03.00 | Esamynn|work | I never actually got Astrolabe converted to LibStub |
| 20:03.01 | VIad | oh... so 1.0 is dead? |
| 20:03.04 | VIad | Xuerian: * |
| 20:03.27 | Primer | Yet, right now, in the same session, my addon has loaded Astrolabe from the root of the AddOns directory |
| 20:03.28 | Xuerian | VIad: Yeah |
| 20:03.33 | Shirik | so a friend of mine took some screenshots of him playing starcraft 2 |
| 20:03.37 | nevcairiel | Primer: did you give tomtom a optional dep on astrolabe? |
| 20:03.40 | Shirik | it's now the top post on /r/starcraft |
| 20:03.46 | Shirik | http://i.imgur.com/ZDt5E5G.jpg |
| 20:03.46 | nevcairiel | just to make sure it loads it first |
| 20:03.47 | VIad | I recommend pushing an update that clearly states it's dead :p |
| 20:03.54 | VIad | my curse said "let's install this shit!" |
| 20:04.01 | Primer | nevcairiel: I didn't give tomtom anything. It's the packaged addon from upstream |
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| 20:04.10 | nevcairiel | then do that |
| 20:04.19 | Constie | Your friend is playing correctly, Shirik. |
| 20:04.28 | Primer | argh, so then my question was valid! |
| 20:04.49 | Esamynn|work | well, TomTom could be loading 160 before the 161 becomes available |
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| 20:05.02 | nevcairiel | since astrolabe is not meant to ever run standalone, addons dont have the optdep for it, and load order is not guaranteed |
| 20:05.05 | Esamynn|work | and there is quite a bit of initialization done by the first one to load |
| 20:05.09 | Primer | It's obviously possible to have one addon use its embedded lib, and another use the unembedded one |
| 20:05.20 | foxlit | sentries. |
| 20:05.26 | Esamynn|work | no, that shouldn't be the end result |
| 20:05.34 | nevcairiel | well, once the unembedded one loads, it would overwrite the previous embedded one |
| 20:05.43 | Esamynn|work | ^ |
| 20:05.48 | nevcairiel | but of course that error occurs during first load, so you need to load the newer one first |
| 20:05.48 | foxlit | oh, wait, ultras. meh; this is clearly bronze. The way to win this is to do anything at all during like the first hour of the game. |
| 20:05.49 | Esamynn|work | it should, anyways |
| 20:05.53 | Stanzilla | does astrolabe use libstub or dongle stuff? |
| 20:06.02 | Primer | it uses dongle |
| 20:06.07 | Esamynn|work | Dongle still, never bothered to do the conversion |
| 20:06.10 | nevcairiel | assuming astrolabe has a version guard and doesnt try to perform the init when a newer version is already loaded |
| 20:06.16 | Esamynn|work | correct |
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| 20:09.54 | Arrowmaster | oh wow i missed all the nexus announcements |
| 20:10.15 | Arrowmaster | lol ouya is royally fucked |
| 20:10.38 | zenzelezz | pity, they were doing so well |
| 20:10.45 | Fisker | lol |
| 20:10.47 | Kraps | lol Arrowmaster |
| 20:10.52 | Esamynn|work | if I find the time this cycle, I may attempt to at least get Astrolabe hooked into LibStub so you can load it from there, even if I don't completely strip out the Dongle dependency |
| 20:10.58 | Neffi | why? isn't ouya already dead? |
| 20:11.13 | Arrowmaster | im allowed to bash ouya to hell and back because i actually have one |
| 20:11.20 | nevcairiel | shouldnt those two library stubs be rather similar |
| 20:11.42 | nevcairiel | shouldnt be much work to get it going |
| 20:11.53 | Esamynn|work | quite, there is some additional logic that Dongle implements that I've never ported into Astrolabe |
| 20:12.05 | nevcairiel | i see |
| 20:12.12 | Esamynn|work | the conversion isn't totally trivial |
| 20:12.13 | nevcairiel | libstub is intentionally the most lightweight we could build it |
| 20:12.18 | Esamynn|work | it should be simple, but not trivial |
| 20:12.21 | Esamynn|work | aye |
| 20:12.25 | Arrowmaster | i rarely use my n7 anymore but i still kinda want an n9 |
| 20:12.36 | nevcairiel | the longest we ever talked about what turned out to be like 20 lines of c ode and 30 lines of comments |
| 20:12.54 | Esamynn|work | haha |
| 20:13.06 | foxlit | http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/19033/ChatFrame.lua#1072 << this is gearly amusing. |
| 20:13.09 | Fisker | That's the joke |
| 20:13.10 | Fisker | We aren't laughing because you're bashing them |
| 20:13.10 | Fisker | They're already dead as fuck |
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| 20:15.17 | Esamynn|work | Primer: UnitPosition, works for the same units as GetPlayerMapPosition, right? and what did we decide the returns were? x, y, z (junk) and terrainID ? |
| 20:15.30 | Primer | pretty much |
| 20:15.36 | Esamynn|work | great, thanks |
| 20:15.58 | Primer | I was able to replace GetPlayerMapPosition() with it. All I had to do was remove the zone width and height from the formula |
| 20:16.09 | Esamynn|work | nods |
| 20:16.29 | Gragagrogog | rly? did you said a Z position ? |
| 20:16.36 | Gragagrogog | *say |
| 20:16.36 | Primer | it doesn't work |
| 20:16.39 | Esamynn|work | yes, but it's just junk data |
| 20:16.43 | Primer | don't get your hopes up |
| 20:16.50 | Primer | the Z, that is |
| 20:16.52 | Esamynn|work | I may need to bump AStrolabe's major version, since I may not be able to completely keep the exace same interface :/ |
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| 20:18.29 | Semlar | bumps esamynn |
| 20:18.34 | Elkano | foxlit, since you wrote LuaCasc, you don't happen to know the new structures for the db2 files, do you? |
| 20:18.42 | Esamynn|work | ~poke Semlar |
| 20:18.42 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Semlar, pokes Semlar repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 20:19.05 | nevcairiel | Elkano: he wrote a parser, so... |
| 20:19.26 | Elkano | nevcairiel, a parser that has to be fed the structure iirc |
| 20:19.41 | Semlar | Esamynn: y, x, _, instanceID = UnitPosition(unit) |
| 20:19.43 | foxlit | itâs orthogonal, really. Elkano wants column definitions. |
| 20:19.48 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 20:20.01 | nevcairiel | trial and error them! |
| 20:20.02 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 20:20.12 | Elkano | item.db2 seems to have kept its syntax but item-sparse.db2 seems to have changed |
| 20:20.17 | Esamynn|work | Semlar: I tend to think of it as terrainMapID, rather than instance id, instance is already too overloaded a term |
| 20:20.22 | foxlit | but hey, you should write code to guess column types for you. |
| 20:20.24 | Simca | Sharparam, was looking at the forums for a different reason and noticed this: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/13421662064?page=3#43 |
| 20:20.29 | Simca | relevant to your questions |
| 20:20.42 | foxlit | it still wonât tell you what is what, but it should at least be semi-possible to get typed output of there without knowing anything. |
| 20:20.45 | Semlar | Esamynn: you should just call everything a mapID |
| 20:21.02 | Esamynn|work | ~lart Semlar |
| 20:21.02 | purl | DoSes Semlar |
| 20:21.04 | Sharparam | Simca: i guess i'll keep the thread open and wait for an update from a blue |
| 20:21.06 | Semlar | >_> |
| 20:21.10 | Simca | Elkano, I can provide you with db2 structures, or at least changes |
| 20:21.38 | Esamynn|work | oooh, do share! |
| 20:23.42 | Semlar | i don't know if UnitPosition provides data for players who are in other instances from you, i'd need a group to check |
| 20:23.57 | Semlar | it probably does |
| 20:24.02 | Esamynn|work | shrugs |
| 20:24.17 | Esamynn|work | that would be pure bonus anyways |
| 20:24.40 | Esamynn|work | well, mostly |
| 20:24.45 | nevcairiel | i use UnitPosition in GatherMate already, and i only ever need my own position anyway, and that works beautifully |
| 20:25.04 | Semlar | i'm using it to position the world map behind my minimap right now |
| 20:25.23 | Simca | item-sparse.db2 is one that I do not have completed |
| 20:25.29 | Semlar | i had some annoying code that had to keep track of my position on update before |
| 20:25.31 | Simca | but I have a list of the column movements |
| 20:25.44 | Simca | if you provide the pre-WoD column names, I can provide the post-WoD column names |
| 20:26.01 | Simca | @Elkano: ^ |
| 20:27.01 | Semlar | Esamynn: i don't know if you checked out the map hierarchy functions but you can get all of the parent and sub maps for the zone |
| 20:28.33 | Semlar | basically the maps you get when you right click on the map to zoom out |
| 20:28.44 | Shirik | oh shit |
| 20:28.47 | Shirik | (Reuters) - Lockheed Martin Corp said on Wednesday it had made a technological breakthrough in developing a power source based on nuclear fusion, and the first reactors, small enough to fit on the back of a truck, could be ready for use in a decade. |
| 20:29.08 | nevcairiel | isnt it always "another decade" with fusion |
| 20:29.16 | Semlar | didn't honda or something make a mini reactor you could keep in your garage |
| 20:29.26 | Shirik | simcity said we would have it by 2050 |
| 20:29.47 | Semlar | people are unfortunately scared of nuclear energy |
| 20:30.06 | nevcairiel | but its absolutely not even closely related :p |
| 20:30.23 | nevcairiel | no evil radioactive elements etc |
| 20:31.03 | Constie | It's usually perpetually 20 years away, though, not 10. Progress! |
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| 20:46.36 | Mr_Rabies | so, so many unupdated addons |
| 20:46.50 | foxlit | random math attack: I flip a fair coin twice, and report that I got at least one Tails. What is the probability that I got Tails on the first coin toss? |
| 20:46.52 | Mr_Rabies | seems like a lot of authors either quit or didn't bother trying to update until 6.0 was live D: |
| 20:47.32 | Mr_Rabies | is it still not 50%, foxlit, or is this a trick question |
| 20:48.10 | foxlit | My followup question is this: I roll a d20 twice, and report that I got at least one 20. What is the probability that I got 20 on the first roll? |
| 20:48.13 | Semlar | every question foxlit asks is rhetorical |
| 20:48.28 | Constie | Probability questions have like a .9 probability of being trick questions. |
| 20:49.36 | Mr_Rabies | likewise, still 0.05% chance D: |
| 20:49.40 | Simca | 21/40ths |
| 20:49.41 | foxlit | only because education is sorely lacking. |
| 20:49.43 | Semlar | "at least" one |
| 20:50.07 | Mr_Rabies | or wait |
| 20:50.07 | Mr_Rabies | 5% |
| 20:50.11 | Mr_Rabies | i'm dumb |
| 20:50.45 | Constie | It seems a little odd to me that probability is (at least in my experience) taught kind of separately from other math, since it's more applicable to daily life than most math is. |
| 20:51.08 | Semlar | jokes on them because i didn't learn any maths |
| 20:51.09 | Fisker | 50% |
| 20:51.14 | Fisker | Either it happens or it doesn't |
| 20:51.20 | Semlar | fisker knows what's up |
| 20:51.55 | Semlar | all probability boils down to a 50/50 chance of something happening |
| 20:51.56 | Simca | rofl |
| 20:52.08 | Constie | All I've learned about probability is that it is counterintuitive often enough that one should just let probability-knowers answer questions. |
| 20:52.17 | foxlit | > function coin() return math.random() > 0.5 end local F, C = 0, 0 repeat local a, b = coin(), coin() if a or b then F, C = F + (a and 1 or 0), C + 1 end until C == 10000 print(F/C) |
| 20:52.17 | foxlit | 0.6674 |
| 20:52.53 | Mr_Rabies | how is that possible on a fair coin |
| 20:52.57 | foxlit | > function d20() return math.random() > 19/20 end local F, C = 0, 0 repeat local a, b = d20(), d20() if a or b then F, C = F + (a and 1 or 0), C + 1 end until C == |
| 20:52.58 | foxlit | 0.5182 |
| 20:53.10 | Simca | i.e. 21/40ths |
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| 20:53.46 | foxlit | 0.513902 ~= 0.525. |
| 20:54.16 | Simca | it's pretty close |
| 20:54.23 | foxlit | also pretty far. |
| 20:54.28 | Semlar | i have a better question, how am i supposed to accurately figure out if the player is standing or sitting |
| 20:54.40 | Mr_Rabies | use your special eyes, semlar |
| 20:54.45 | Simca | UnitIsSemlar |
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| 20:55.22 | foxlit | but is that because of rng noise, a faulty d20(), or because the actual probability isnât 21/40? |
| 20:55.53 | Semlar | how can probability be real if rng isn't real |
| 20:55.56 | Simca | i think i made a mistake and it is 41/80 |
| 20:56.16 | Neffi | Semlar: is your real name Jaden? |
| 20:56.21 | Mr_Rabies | ha |
| 20:56.23 | Mr_Rabies | that reminds me |
| 20:56.35 | Mr_Rabies | i played a game called barony recently and it's a voxel-based roguelike in early development |
| 20:56.47 | Mr_Rabies | and when you hit "credits" it ends with the famous jaden smith quote |
| 20:57.02 | Mr_Rabies | which really capped things off after we played the totally broken multiplayer |
| 20:57.15 | Simca | yeah it is |
| 20:58.18 | Simca | 50% chance first roll was a 20, and 1 in 20 chance you rolled two 20s, so thats +2.5% chance that you rolled two 20s or 21/40. but i forgot to account for the fact that half of that 1/40 happens when the first roll was going to be 20 anyway |
| 20:58.26 | Simca | so it is 1/80 + 50% |
| 20:59.42 | TC-Work | That being said if you are rolling against a player the probability is 99.99% |
| 21:00.55 | Mr_Rabies | i don't really understand how the results of the first roll could effect the second one at all |
| 21:01.09 | Mr_Rabies | but i'll just smile and nod as i tend to do with this kind of math |
| 21:02.42 | Semlar | you have a 50% chance that the first roll is 20? |
| 21:03.39 | nevcairiel | it would be 50% if you said you want exactly one 20 |
| 21:03.45 | nevcairiel | but he also allowed both being 20 |
| 21:04.09 | Constie | zenzelezz: https://twitter.com/Celestalon/status/522444309283368960 |
| 21:04.30 | zenzelezz | Constie: cheers :) |
| 21:04.34 | Semlar | how is it a 50% chance of it being one of 20 sides |
| 21:05.00 | foxlit | (41/80 seems wrong to me.) |
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| 21:06.04 | nevcairiel | his question was, if you roll a d20 twice and get at least one 20, whats the chance the 20 was on the first roll? .. there is a premise in there that at least one 20 was already 20, which gives you the 50%, on top of that the chance that both are 20 |
| 21:06.14 | Semlar | oh right |
| 21:06.33 | Semlar | i forgot he said one of them was 20 |
| 21:06.59 | Simca | the chance that the second one is 20 is 1/20, but the question asks how often the first one is 20, so half of the situations the second 20 occurs on the second dice which is irrelevant to you |
| 21:07.35 | Simca | so it is 1/2 + 1/40 |
| 21:08.44 | Simca | apparently my major issue with the problem is my inability to add fractions though |
| 21:08.45 | foxlit | letâs backtrack to the coin for a second. is what youâre saying then equivalen to 1/2 + 1/4? |
| 21:09.49 | Simca | should be |
| 21:09.57 | Simca | but it isn't anywhere near your result |
| 21:10.04 | nevcairiel | no, thats wrong, with a coin you have 3 possible outcomes, 1 0, 1 1 and 0 1 |
| 21:10.12 | nevcairiel | in 2 of 3 cases its true, ie 0.66 |
| 21:10.35 | nevcairiel | (the 4th outcome is ruled out by the premise) |
| 21:12.43 | foxlit | conclusion: itâs not 41/80. |
| 21:13.33 | nevcairiel | the d20 has 20+19 possible combinations (20 + 1-20, and 1-19 + 20, since 20+20 is already in the first set), of which 20 are true, ie 20/39 |
| 21:13.55 | nevcairiel | 0,5128 |
| 21:14.00 | nevcairiel | there, mystery solved |
| 21:14.52 | Semlar | gives nevcairiel a tracking cookie |
| 21:15.14 | Simca | ur smrt |
| 21:15.47 | Simca | anyone know how to reach elkano |
| 21:15.51 | Simca | i have what he needs |
| 21:15.51 | foxlit | the book I got this problem from wants you to do it in base 8, though. |
| 21:16.00 | TC-Work | With a 10tf. pole. |
| 21:16.03 | TC-Work | ft.* |
| 21:16.04 | nevcairiel | Simca: he'll be back when he is done sleeping |
| 21:16.12 | Semlar | i give up trying to determine whether the player is sitting or standing |
| 21:16.13 | nevcairiel | foxlit: screw other bases |
| 21:16.14 | Simca | ok |
| 21:16.46 | foxlit | base 8 is just like base 10, really⦠|
| 21:16.58 | nevcairiel | just without 8 and 9? |
| 21:17.22 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:17.36 | TC-Work | In someone. |
| 21:17.52 | zenzelezz | foxlit: awesome song |
| 21:18.35 | foxlit | :) |
| 21:19.43 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.25 | Simca | that is the best you can do apparently |
| 21:20.30 | Semlar | so i think 0.5 seconds is wrong for the timeout or latency can factor into it or something |
| 21:20.45 | Semlar | it's pretty close, probably good enough for what i'm doing |
| 21:21.05 | Semlar | i'm just trying to count how many times the player teabags somebody |
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| 21:30.38 | Constie | You could always just provide a button for players to manually click to increment the counter, Semlar. Put in a notice about how it's using the honor system and that users aren't allowed to lie. |
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| 21:31.13 | Semlar | nah it really needs to track while they're doing it |
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| 21:31.24 | Semlar | i want it to be as accurate as possible |
| 21:31.25 | TC-Work | Was there not a jump counter addon as well? |
| 21:31.34 | Semlar | this counts jumping too |
| 21:31.41 | TC-Work | Was it possible to spam jump and fake it out as well? |
| 21:31.42 | Simca | they really need to improve the tool that pushes out builds |
| 21:31.58 | Simca | they messed it up yet again and deployed only 1 out of 2 required build files |
| 21:32.01 | Semlar | it hooks JumporAscendStart and uses a 0.8 second timeout |
| 21:33.18 | Simca | when they do it again and do it right, the new build # will be 19034 |
| 21:34.22 | kd3 | blah, tethering my phone to get online |
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| 21:36.36 | Mr_Rabies | is it at all possible to readd the hunter aspects to the stance bar (and use the stance bar's keybindings?) |
| 21:36.55 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not really sure why they took them off the stance bar and also removed the trap flyouts |
| 21:36.56 | nevcairiel | just rebind to a normal bar? |
| 21:37.11 | Mr_Rabies | i use global binds |
| 21:37.23 | nevcairiel | too bad |
| 21:37.49 | nevcairiel | if blizz doesnt expose them through the stance api, then action bars won't put it on there |
| 21:40.23 | Simca | korea, taiwan, and china just moved to 6.0.2; worldwide 6.0.2 now |
| 21:40.49 | nevcairiel | actual china with their special version of wow? |
| 21:40.51 | kd3 | china too? wow |
| 21:40.58 | Simca | yep |
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| 21:42.37 | Simca | they still haven't corrected the failed push of 19034 though, they usually fix it faster than this |
| 21:43.39 | Maldivia | it's only been 20 minutes, give them time :D |
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| 21:45.07 | DJJeff | http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/2jafrg/every_aspect_of_wow_is_currently_broken_from/ |
| 21:45.18 | DJJeff | I think I choked on my dinner when I read this |
| 21:45.27 | DJJeff | "healers actually need to heal now?" |
| 21:45.42 | DJJeff | I like that aspect of the patch but omg tanks pull way to much |
| 21:45.48 | DJJeff | trying to faceroll dungeons |
| 21:46.08 | Constie | I saw "But at the end this once again only shows that blizzard is far from being a professional game development company" on MMOC. |
| 21:46.14 | DJJeff | give or take a few weeks this might be a good thing |
| 21:46.15 | Semlar | qq |
| 21:46.48 | Semlar | the tldr for this is too long for me to bother reading |
| 21:47.15 | DJJeff | I like how 85% of my 108 addons broke |
| 21:47.18 | DJJeff | with the new patch |
| 21:47.21 | DJJeff | that was awesome |
| 21:47.44 | DJJeff | took me yet 7 more hours to get them 1/2 working again |
| 21:47.50 | Semlar | i'm impressed that 20 of your addons didn't break |
| 21:48.19 | DJJeff | cause the ones that did not break are the "broker" addons |
| 21:48.42 | DJJeff | that sit up in the top of my screen and just give me info about things |
| 21:48.55 | Constie | I'm electing to not even try to have my UI working until a day or three from now, when either addons will be updated or other people will have found fixes. |
| 21:49.45 | DJJeff | I do need a replacement for this addon |
| 21:49.47 | DJJeff | "http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/broker_socialstate/" |
| 21:50.15 | Constie | What we need is rarely if ever what we want. |
| 21:51.15 | DJJeff | oh and I do miss using fortexorcist |
| 21:51.34 | DJJeff | last Updated 27 September 2012 |
| 21:52.03 | Simca | DJJeff: it works fine if you make a replacement |
| 21:52.39 | DJJeff | npcscan gave us a warning about how it detects rares now |
| 21:52.49 | DJJeff | that made cry for 2 hours |
| 21:53.28 | DJJeff | much love to you torhal |
| 21:53.31 | Simca | DJJeff: replace GetNumPartyMembers with GetNumSubgroupMembers |
| 21:53.42 | Simca | and GetNumRaidMembers with GetNumGroupMembers |
| 21:53.53 | DJJeff | for which addon? |
| 21:54.04 | Simca | to fix socialstate |
| 21:54.11 | DJJeff | ah |
| 21:54.24 | Simca | also what a troll, blizzard just updated to 19034, but only in korea, taiwan, and china |
| 21:54.26 | Simca | weird |
| 21:54.42 | Maldivia | yeah, noticed |
| 21:55.24 | DJJeff | omen threat meter from 2012 still works *smiles* |
| 21:55.38 | DJJeff | one of the great addons that works no matter what patch |
| 21:56.01 | Simca | *lucky addons |
| 21:56.03 | haste | also known as being lucky |
| 21:56.08 | DJJeff | tomtom needs some love |
| 21:56.27 | Simca | authors are on it |
| 21:56.51 | Simca | it's mostly a matter of luck whether blizzard will break your code or not |
| 21:56.52 | DJJeff | good to hear yaaaaay tomtom |
| 21:57.10 | DJJeff | do authors test their addons on PTR? |
| 21:57.23 | haste | some do, some don't |
| 21:57.27 | DJJeff | and then blizzard breaks things on live? |
| 21:57.29 | Semlar | we pretty much just wing it |
| 21:57.31 | Simca | good ones do |
| 21:57.58 | Semlar | blizzard doesn't break anything on live that wasn't already broken on the beta |
| 21:58.06 | Constie | I tested mine on the PTR and then found some issues I missed on live. |
| 21:58.09 | kd3 | ^ |
| 21:58.16 | Simca | almost always true, semlar |
| 21:58.30 | Semlar | sometimes they might decide to break something to keep us on our toes |
| 21:58.33 | DJJeff | not even sure why tomtom broke |
| 21:58.38 | Simca | but there was that one time that they set the AH post/cancel functions to require HW events in the patch |
| 21:58.41 | Semlar | i know why tomtom broke |
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| 21:58.44 | Simca | that wasn't on the PTR |
| 21:58.48 | Semlar | shouldn't really be difficult to fix |
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| 21:59.53 | Constie | What do people use Omen for now, anyway? Offtanking? Is tank TPS not still way higher than DPS TPS with good gear? |
| 22:00.29 | Mr_Rabies | i just have skada in threat mode when i'm in combat and honestly yeah, never a problem |
| 22:00.32 | Mr_Rabies | very rarely |
| 22:01.01 | Semlar | i don't even pass poorly geared tanks on my hunter but i'm beast mastery so half my damage is my pet |
| 22:01.30 | Semlar | so i'll be around 80% of the damage done and still not be tanking |
| 22:01.42 | DJJeff | Omen tells me as a healer I pass 105% of dps threat |
| 22:01.54 | DJJeff | I just sit back and laugh |
| 22:02.07 | DJJeff | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/rsa |
| 22:02.14 | DJJeff | oh noooooooo rsa broke :( |
| 22:02.23 | Constie | I suppose threat also matters even less than usual to me since I have Fade. |
| 22:03.15 | Semlar | i could probably pull threat as marksmanship |
| 22:03.26 | Semlar | possibly as survival |
| 22:03.55 | Semlar | not in a raid though, certainly not with a tank as geared as i am |
| 22:04.27 | DJJeff | ok confirmed that socialstate works now thanks Simca |
| 22:04.37 | Simca | yep np |
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| 22:04.51 | DJJeff | would be cool to update the code on curse so others can benifit from it |
| 22:05.19 | DJJeff | can I take over an abandoned addon? |
| 22:06.21 | DJJeff | oh nvm they had an update back in apr of 2014 |
| 22:07.39 | Simca | i think you can petition to take it over |
| 22:09.02 | DJJeff | this is my tomtom error |
| 22:09.02 | DJJeff | https://bpaste.net/show/ae9b4640b4a2 |
| 22:09.05 | DJJeff | if that helps anyone :) |
| 22:10.37 | DJJeff | swatter has a funny way of dealing with errors |
| 22:10.46 | DJJeff | I do like how it shows you a count as well |
| 22:11.07 | kd3 | wait, what, battleground queues were broken because of ring of valor? |
| 22:11.11 | kd3 | how the hell...? |
| 22:15.41 | DJJeff | I think wow released this patch way before its time |
| 22:15.56 | kd3 | eh, it was going to happen no matter how long they dragged it out |
| 22:16.00 | kd3 | better to do it now, not at expansion launch |
| 22:16.01 | DJJeff | unless they want people to open tickets and complain how broken it is |
| 22:16.17 | DJJeff | which could be a good thing |
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| 22:17.59 | DJJeff | im in a dungeon right now and tanks STILL dont wait for their healer |
| 22:18.38 | Neffi | low level? |
| 22:19.18 | Neffi | When I'm tanking at lower levels I'll give the healer time at the start to grab quests, then I'm out. Catch up or not. A decent tank can solo dungeons their level in looms |
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| 22:19.42 | Gragagrogog | DJJeff: what? tanks dont wait for healers |
| 22:20.32 | Constie | Correct tanking is waiting for the healer to get ready at the start and then being in combat for the rest of the dungeon. |
| 22:20.34 | DJJeff | just dinged 84 doing random cata dungeons |
| 22:21.17 | Neffi | If the tank is able to move quickly enough sans a healer, that the healer cannot catch up, then I assume the healer's being lazy and bad |
| 22:21.44 | Gragagrogog | nope, correct tanking is rushing through as fast as possible |
| 22:22.58 | DJJeff | maybe pre 6.0 it was |
| 22:23.01 | DJJeff | not anymore |
| 22:23.05 | Esamynn|work | ~lart Gragagrogog |
| 22:23.05 | purl | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in Gragagrogog's direction, hitting Gragagrogog and sending Gragagrogog flying into the closet |
| 22:23.22 | Esamynn|work | as a tank, I find you offensive |
| 22:23.31 | DJJeff | also I just started up my twitch stream on canadajeff |
| 22:24.11 | Arrowmaster | so squirrels eat pumpkin |
| 22:25.50 | Neffi | and dogs eat both |
| 22:25.56 | Neffi | wait, sorry, that was kinda dark |
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| 22:27.31 | Arrowmaster | carved a pumpkin over the weekend and the squirrels ate it |
| 22:28.22 | Neffi | Well. I was imagining you hand-feeding pumpkin pieces to squirrels. I'm rather disappointed. |
| 22:31.20 | DJJeff | are we getting DC from hotfixes? |
| 22:31.31 | DJJeff | seems like every 5min get DC |
| 22:31.58 | DJJeff | and now the dungeon mobs are back |
| 22:32.04 | DJJeff | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee this is fun |
| 22:33.11 | Stanzilla | new build inc |
| 22:33.59 | DJJeff | you mean time to break more addons inc? |
| 22:34.49 | Stanzilla | no |
| 22:41.47 | Jamash | why is every realm marked Incompatible? |
| 22:41.56 | kd3 | new build just got put out. hold on a sec |
| 22:42.10 | kd3 | http://twitter.com/Zorbrix/status/522515175358734337 |
| 22:42.28 | Jamash | aight then |
| 22:42.35 | Jamash | guess I picked the exact wrong minute to start playing |
| 22:42.36 | DJJeff | all the mpq files are gone now |
| 22:42.44 | DJJeff | sad face |
| 22:43.02 | DJJeff | no more mpq file extracting and viewing |
| 22:43.04 | Jamash | happy face |
| 22:43.17 | Jamash | you realize there are CASC file viewers and extractors, right? |
| 22:44.03 | DJJeff | happy face? |
| 22:44.13 | Jamash | yeah, MPQ was old and busted |
| 22:44.17 | Jamash | CASC is the new hotness |
| 22:44.26 | DJJeff | it was easy to find all the music files |
| 22:44.32 | DJJeff | and listen to them out of game |
| 22:44.45 | kd3 | you can still do that, just with casc-enabled tools |
| 22:44.51 | Jamash | I tried to build an alternative UI extractor when the official one was broken and before they put it into the game client |
| 22:45.10 | Jamash | It had to load MPQs in a particular order in order to get all the patches and overrides to apply correctly |
| 22:45.15 | Jamash | I never actually got it working 100% |
| 22:45.43 | Jamash | I wasn't even working with the format directly, just via a third-party API and it was still a pain in the ass |
| 22:46.15 | Jamash | I don't have any familiarity with the format myself, but from what I gather CASC is rather less baroque |
| 22:46.48 | kd3 | there's already a handful of open-source casc implementations |
| 22:48.50 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/2014-10-16_01-48-34.png |
| 22:48.52 | kullervo | wonder why's this |
| 22:51.24 | Stanzilla | @Zorbrix: 19034 fixes a crash, some UI issues, and a texture issue for Worgens. BG issues hopefully resolved after (NA) restarts tonight. |
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| 22:52.45 | Aezay | Hello, could anyone point me in the direction where I could get the WoW UI Interface Addon kit for the new patch. It seems like you need an installed and updated WoW to extract the current one, but I dont have that |
| 22:53.14 | Stanzilla | !api |
| 22:53.16 | kd3 | that's been the case since 4.0 |
| 22:53.18 | kd3 | ~framexml |
| 22:53.18 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml |
| 22:53.23 | Stanzilla | or that |
| 22:53.36 | Esamynn|work | ~botsnack |
| 22:53.36 | purl | :), Esamynn|work |
| 22:55.40 | Aezay | thanks for the help |
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| 22:58.52 | kd3 | np |
| 23:00.10 | DJJeff | the one huge update I like about 6.0 |
| 23:00.16 | DJJeff | is the god damn bags |
| 23:00.24 | DJJeff | hurray for more bag space |
| 23:00.53 | Constie | Some of the toys in my inventory were already in my toybox when I logged in. Can I safely delete the items? |
| 23:01.04 | kd3 | yes, anything with an 'already known' tag is safe to toss |
| 23:01.19 | kd3 | there should be ~30 items if you got all the quest/achievement-rewarded toys |
| 23:01.39 | Constie | Ruthers' Harness not being one of them is odd. |
| 23:02.01 | kd3 | https://twitter.com/nite_moogle/status/522446530876157953 |
| 23:02.17 | Constie | Fair enough. |
| 23:02.41 | Constie | New Loot-A-Rang icon! |
| 23:04.30 | Constie | The default bag cleaning is so fast. I kind of miss watching MrPlow go through the whole process. |
| 23:05.18 | DJJeff | how many girlfriends or wifes are gonna rage now that guys can undelete their wow toons |
| 23:05.24 | ScratchMonkey | there was a tweet about some toys getting taken back out because of possible pvp issues, "they affect other players" |
| 23:06.05 | ScratchMonkey | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14881968176 |
| 23:11.31 | *** join/#wowuidev Ressy (Ressy@24.212.192.153) |
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| 23:14.06 | Jamash | "Retrieving encoding table" is an interesting new message. |
| 23:14.34 | Semlar | why is archmage vargoth's staff not in the toy box |
| 23:14.59 | Semlar | i don't care that it's a quest item |
| 23:15.03 | Maldivia | because it's a quest item |
| 23:15.26 | Semlar | unacceptable! |
| 23:17.31 | DJJeff | recount showing level 84 hunter doing 300 dps? |
| 23:17.39 | DJJeff | I think recount be broken |
| 23:17.53 | smcn | use skada instead |
| 23:17.58 | Constie | One hopes. |
| 23:17.58 | Semlar | recount works fine |
| 23:18.07 | Semlar | did you update it |
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| 23:20.07 | DJJeff | not once in my wow carrer have I used skada |
| 23:20.11 | DJJeff | do not plan on it now |
| 23:21.01 | DJJeff | curse client says my recount is updated |
| 23:21.12 | Semlar | doesn't mean it is |
| 23:21.57 | Semlar | if it has been updated it should be working |
| 23:22.13 | Semlar | i don't know how much damage a level 84 is supposed to be doing, anyway |
| 23:22.43 | Semlar | probably more than 300 |
| 23:22.45 | Kesava | (why isn't GetCompanionInfo returning anything?) |
| 23:23.03 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure that function has been deprecated for a while |
| 23:23.38 | Kesava | oh found the replacement now |
| 23:23.40 | Semlar | there are pet and mount journal functions |
| 23:23.43 | Kesava | but it's a C_ function. |
| 23:23.58 | Kesava | but yeah wowpedia doens't mention it |
| 23:24.04 | Kesava | i had to go to... |
| 23:24.06 | Kesava | wowwiki. |
| 23:24.08 | Kesava | *gasp* |
| 23:24.20 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/uP2Ya7u.jpg |
| 23:24.26 | DJJeff | poor hunter |
| 23:24.35 | Semlar | Kesava: http://wowpedia.org/Patch_6.0.1/API_changes |
| 23:24.53 | Semlar | expand the global api section |
| 23:25.11 | Kesava | ah. ty |
| 23:25.52 | Semlar | these should be on the global functions page though, someone should get on that |
| 23:26.34 | Ressy | poke kd3 when he comes back |
| 23:26.40 | Constie | I hope http://www.macroexplain.com/ gets updated with the talent conditional at some point. |
| 23:27.51 | DJJeff | no more facerolling dungeons |
| 23:27.58 | DJJeff | the repair cost is fun |
| 23:28.07 | DJJeff | now that people need to actually learn boss fights |
| 23:29.03 | Semlar | god i hope that isn't an accurate representation of class damage |
| 23:30.14 | Semlar | uh the hunter did more than half the warlock's damage and has a quarter of their dps |
| 23:30.25 | Semlar | so i don't know how recount is calculating dps there |
| 23:30.56 | Constie | Poorly? |
| 23:32.02 | Semlar | not remotely correctly |
| 23:32.13 | Semlar | none of these dps numbers are right |
| 23:32.47 | Constie | It's not just the effective DPS thing that Recount does differently from Skada? |
| 23:32.50 | Constie | Or so I'm told, anyway. |
| 23:32.58 | Semlar | no, that's not the problem |
| 23:33.46 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/5sV00fU.jpg |
| 23:33.51 | Semlar | unless the tank was in combat a hell of a lot longer than the group |
| 23:34.34 | Semlar | well that hunter is literally just afk |
| 23:34.59 | Semlar | he's just auto-shooting the boss |
| 23:36.43 | Dagmar | I thought we didn't have auto-shot anymore |
| 23:36.58 | Dagmar | I should probably pay closer attention to what my gun is doing |
| 23:36.59 | Semlar | um it's our white damage |
| 23:37.26 | Semlar | what do you think happens when you right click on a target >_> |
| 23:37.37 | Dagmar | I dunno, I figure if I'm soloin' shit on the Timeless Isle I can't be doing things too terribly wrong |
| 23:37.50 | Dagmar | I left click. |
| 23:38.06 | Semlar | regardless, it starts auto-shooting whenever you attack something |
| 23:38.15 | Dagmar | ...then it's all birds, extra beastie, and paladin mode |
| 23:38.39 | Dagmar | Well, not quite paladin-mode but the new three-button bread and butter certainly feels like paladin mode at times |
| 23:40.24 | Dagmar | with the availability and type of buffs on that island, damage numbers are all over the place |
| 23:44.44 | smcn | anyone happen to know if routes will be updated for 6.0 or if there's an alternative |
| 23:46.01 | DJJeff | I was just about to ask that |
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| 23:55.47 | Sintacks | the preview for this texture for kgpanels is showing the texture, but the actual panel is showing a giant green square :\ |
