| 00:00.05 | foxlit | the driver code is like 15 lines. go read it. |
| 00:00.15 | Semlar | link! |
| 00:00.36 | Semlar | all i know is when [form] fires on the beta, GetShapeshiftForm() returns the value of the previous form |
| 00:00.40 | foxlit | http://townlong-yak.com/framexml/go/RegisterStateDriver somewhere there. |
| 00:02.01 | Semlar | UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM fires like 4 times every time you shift, so it might have something to do with that too |
| 00:02.30 | Semlar | twice for both forms you were in |
| 00:03.04 | Semlar | oh it's 0.2 seconds |
| 00:03.20 | foxlit | doesnât particularly matter; just means that [form:] and GetShapeshiftForm pull data from different sources. |
| 00:03.49 | foxlit | maybe you should be testing GetShapeshiftForm(true) |
| 00:03.50 | Semlar | it works differently on live though |
| 00:04.58 | Gethe | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:05.28 | Semlar | the GetShapeshiftForm() function is working properly, it's just being called too soon when you use the state handler |
| 00:05.49 | Semlar | or rather, it's being called once when you shift out and then isn't being called again when you shift into the new form |
| 00:07.57 | foxlit | you sound very confused. |
| 00:10.32 | Semlar | alright, consider this script http://pastebin.com/34cXp9Ai |
| 00:11.01 | Semlar | it's producing this result http://i.imgur.com/zvqlTxv.jpg |
| 00:11.18 | kd3|hate`net | could someone go to https://www.kaydeethree.net and see if it works or if you get the invalid cert error? |
| 00:11.34 | foxlit | host name mismatch, kd3. |
| 00:11.38 | TC-Work | ^ |
| 00:11.45 | foxlit | youâre claiming to be ssl2000.cloudflare.com |
| 00:11.48 | kd3 | bah |
| 00:12.10 | TC-Work | Back to safety! |
| 00:12.15 | foxlit | Semlar: âit just means that [form:] and GetShapeshiftForm pull data from different sources.â |
| 00:14.10 | foxlit | matter of perspective, really; to me, it seems like the conditional is right, and GetShapeshiftForm is wrong. |
| 00:14.23 | Semlar | but it works on live |
| 00:14.31 | Semlar | they changed how this works |
| 00:14.33 | TC-Work | People break things? |
| 00:15.04 | Semlar | to me it looks like it's reacting to UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM on live, and ONLY checking on a timer on the beta |
| 00:15.17 | Semlar | because it's producing erroneous results |
| 00:15.27 | foxlit | No. |
| 00:15.29 | foxlit | print the state. |
| 00:15.44 | Semlar | the state is the correct form of course |
| 00:16.16 | Semlar | but if you shift between forms, you'll SOMETIMES get 0 and SOMETIMES get the last form you were in |
| 00:16.37 | Semlar | which means it isn't reacting to the event, it's just periodically checking the condition |
| 00:17.26 | foxlit | no, it doesnât necessarily mean that. |
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| 00:18.11 | foxlit | besides, youâve seen that code. How can it *not* react to the event? |
| 00:19.56 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/NsHekbt.jpg this is what the same script does on live shifting from caster into bear form, then directly into cat form |
| 00:20.06 | Semlar | which is the same thing i did in the other screenshot on the beta |
| 00:21.08 | foxlit | so they changed [form:] to not dump you into 0 when it doesnât make sense? |
| 00:22.05 | Semlar | no, they made it fire before your form actually has been updated |
| 00:22.10 | Semlar | and not again afterward |
| 00:22.38 | foxlit | so letâs say you shift to bear from cat |
| 00:23.17 | foxlit | [form:2] is true initially, GetShapeshiftForm() return 2. You cast bear form. [form:1] becomes true, triggers UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM, propagates to state drivers, all without GetShapeshiftForm noticing |
| 00:23.57 | foxlit | then UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM fires a surprising number of times because why not, and eventually GetShapeshiftForm wakes up and realizes youâre in bear form. |
| 00:24.17 | Semlar | you're assuming GetShapeshiftForm is wrong when UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM fires |
| 00:24.19 | Semlar | i don't think it is |
| 00:24.39 | foxlit | All the while the state driver is sitting there, catching UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM, evaluating the form conditional, seeing itâs the same [form:1] as it was the first time it updated, and not triggering OnAttributeChanged. |
| 00:25.08 | foxlit | for fun, reset the attribute to nil in OAC. |
| 00:29.05 | Semlar | does it make sense for GetShapeshiftForm to return a different value than [form] |
| 00:29.38 | Semlar | you'd think they'd be directly connected |
| 00:30.10 | foxlit | except now weâve seen that they arenât any longer. |
| 00:30.15 | Semlar | apparently |
| 00:30.34 | foxlit | As to what is correct, Iâm not sure thereâs any objective correctness here. |
| 00:30.39 | Semlar | so it sort of means you shouldn't really use GetShapeshiftForm if you want an accurate result in the RE |
| 00:31.06 | Semlar | if you really need it to be correct you'll need to use SecureCmdOptionParse or whatever |
| 00:31.48 | foxlit | I like [form:]âs new behavior than the USF/GSF insanity that your prints show; it doesnât jump through hoops when transitioning between forms, and if you consider GSF to be âcorrectâ, [form:] is prescient, which is kind of cool. |
| 00:32.03 | Semlar | well you do technically shift into caster form between forms |
| 00:32.08 | foxlit | I donât think so. |
| 00:32.18 | Semlar | you can actually see the player model sometimes |
| 00:32.25 | TC-Work | Glitch? |
| 00:32.30 | Semlar | i don't know |
| 00:32.47 | TC-Work | Wouldn't the events reflect that change thoug? |
| 00:32.51 | TC-Work | though* |
| 00:33.02 | Semlar | they do, the events clearly indicate that you have no form in between shifts |
| 00:33.14 | Semlar | assuming GetShapeshiftForm is accurate |
| 00:33.26 | TC-Work | but does no form == caster? |
| 00:33.32 | foxlit | I donât think the server sees you as jumping through human form when shifting. |
| 00:34.02 | Neffi | TC-Work: yes, no form == caster |
| 00:34.20 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure it does, because back when i did arenas if you tried to shift while you were stunned it left you in caster form stunned |
| 00:34.22 | Neffi | at least everything indicates that |
| 00:34.47 | Neffi | many things did that. but they fixed them all at once, so clearly the mechanism got reworked |
| 00:34.51 | TC-Work | do you have a different form when dead? |
| 00:34.55 | Semlar | because you can cancel the shapeshift while stunned but you can't shift again |
| 00:34.57 | Neffi | but that doesnt mean you're not still correct, Semlar |
| 00:35.07 | Neffi | TC-Work: iirc no |
| 00:35.49 | foxlit | thatâs also explainable by the client being insane. |
| 00:36.10 | Semlar | the macro conditions clearly go directly from one form to another though |
| 00:36.14 | Semlar | at least on the beta |
| 00:36.15 | Semlar | not on liev |
| 00:36.25 | foxlit | âoh hey, let me just cast bear form!â âoh no, Iâm in cat, let me cancel that first!â âokay, server, cancel cat, cast bear!â âcancelling cat, no can do on the bear, youâre stunnedâ |
| 00:36.50 | TC-Work | server response delay dumps you to caster? |
| 00:36.53 | Semlar | i think it was only really an issue when trying to cast the same form you were already in without shifting |
| 00:37.04 | Semlar | like /cast !cat form |
| 00:37.35 | Neffi | no, it used to be an issue cross-form too |
| 00:37.42 | Neffi | not an issue anymore from my experience lately |
| 00:37.47 | Semlar | ah well it was a while ago since i did that |
| 00:38.14 | foxlit | I do think Iâve seen a patch note or something to the effect that âyouâre no longer transtioning through human formâ, but I may well be misremembering things. |
| 00:38.25 | Semlar | it was super irritating in the arena though because i'd have a shift macro so i could get out of snares but if i got stunned i'd be left vulnerable in caster form |
| 00:38.36 | Neffi | is the date for 6.0 officially announced? |
| 00:38.41 | Semlar | 14th? |
| 00:38.47 | Neffi | tomorrow? heh |
| 00:38.50 | kd3 | as in tomorrow? barring showstoppers, yah |
| 00:39.07 | Gethe | CRZ in Pandaria!!! |
| 00:39.31 | Neffi | good. the world's been feeling deadf |
| 00:39.31 | Semlar | i'm sad that you still can't detect CRZ stuff from the api |
| 00:39.39 | Neffi | even on a high pop realm |
| 00:39.50 | Semlar | or do zone-wide addon communication |
| 00:40.03 | Semlar | with whatever server you're on |
| 00:40.21 | Neffi | I guess they wanted it to be totally transparent to the user |
| 00:40.31 | TC-Work | I thought Guillotine said they were looking into your second point but it would not be coming with 6.0 |
| 00:40.42 | TC-Work | And that the first was not going to happen. |
| 00:40.52 | Semlar | i think he said they'd think about it |
| 00:41.29 | Neffi | wait, detecting crz would not come, but zone-wide comm would? |
| 00:42.01 | Neffi | or do I have that backwards? because it's a little strange that they *dont* want addons to know which server they're on |
| 00:42.43 | TC-Work | Well lets see. |
| 00:42.44 | TC-Work | ~logs |
| 00:42.44 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://purl.rikers.org/%23wowuidev/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
| 00:42.54 | Semlar | that conversation was a while ago |
| 00:43.09 | Kraps | Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 00:43.25 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.26 | Gethe | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.37 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.51 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.54 | Gethe | <Neffi> silly nsa. |
| 00:44.04 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:44.05 | Neffi | you evil bastard |
| 00:44.25 | Gethe | >:) |
| 00:44.34 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:44.55 | Semlar | http://infobot.rikers.org/%23wowuidev/20140724.html.gz it was somewhere around here |
| 00:45.35 | Semlar | at least that's when i asked about getcurrentposition |
| 00:46.48 | TC-Work | Yea, I was already there looking, and not finding. |
| 00:48.19 | Semlar | i have no idea |
| 00:49.24 | foxlit | http://infobot.rikers.org/%23wowuidev/20140823.html.gz |
| 00:49.32 | Semlar | wow was it really a month later |
| 00:49.40 | Semlar | i have no concept of time |
| 00:49.48 | foxlit | and I have horrible logs. |
| 00:51.01 | foxlit | http://pastebin.com/pcbiWEwU this set of dates makes no sense at all. |
| 00:52.10 | Semlar | at least next time we look it up we'll just have to look up this conversation of us talking about it |
| 00:52.16 | TC-Work | ~lart Semlar |
| 00:52.16 | purl | dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on Semlar |
| 00:53.03 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:53.20 | Semlar | i like how google is trying to correct my name |
| 00:53.32 | Semlar | it just will not accept semlar as a word |
| 00:54.40 | Gethe | that's because you're not real Semlar. |
| 00:54.59 | Neffi | I'm disappointed that it doesn't try to correct it to semla |
| 00:56.52 | Semlar | 03/09/2013 foxlit: Maybe your addons suck, Semlar. Have you tried deleting them? |
| 00:56.59 | Ressy | snickers |
| 00:57.07 | TC-Work | QFT it would seem. |
| 00:57.53 | Gethe | untill he finishes his map addon at least |
| 00:58.12 | Gethe | :) |
| 00:58.20 | foxlit | Two can play that game, Semlar. |
| 00:58.22 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.35 | Semlar | man i still had my laptop.. |
| 00:58.51 | Semlar | my sister stole that laptop |
| 00:59.04 | Neffi | have you reported her to the authorities? |
| 00:59.35 | TC-Work | But then he would need to do conjugal visits. |
| 00:59.37 | phelps | StanceButton1 and ActionButton1 are the same thing ? |
| 00:59.38 | foxlit | report to the nearest apple store; acquire rmbp? |
| 00:59.51 | Semlar | StanceButton1 and ActionButton1 are not the same thing |
| 01:00.07 | foxlit | like half the letters are different. |
| 01:00.10 | Semlar | at least |
| 01:00.11 | phelps | StanceButton1 is returning the spells from ActionButton1 |
| 01:00.31 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure StanceButton1 is on the form bar? |
| 01:00.36 | phelps | yeah |
| 01:00.44 | phelps | exactly :( |
| 01:00.45 | foxlit | so what are you doing to it? |
| 01:00.53 | phelps | just trying to get the spell on it |
| 01:00.55 | foxlit | you monster. |
| 01:01.14 | TC-Work | spells on foxlit |
| 01:01.15 | Semlar | what do you mean, the shapeshift spell like bear form? |
| 01:01.42 | foxlit | verbs TC-Work. |
| 01:02.14 | Semlar | or the spell from that stance that ActionButton1 is turned into |
| 01:02.51 | TC-Work | "2 chiefly Australian : to rest from an activity for a time" Hah. |
| 01:02.52 | phelps | ActionButton_CalculateAction i guess won't work |
| 01:03.04 | Semlar | we don't know what you're trying to do |
| 01:03.13 | phelps | just get the spell ID for each action button |
| 01:03.19 | foxlit | call random functions on random things, expecting magical results. |
| 01:03.30 | phelps | i want magic! |
| 01:03.38 | foxlit | just sign this contract. |
| 01:03.51 | Semlar | ActionButton_GetPagedID(button) |
| 01:04.20 | Semlar | assuming you're only working with the default ui |
| 01:04.52 | foxlit | stance buttons are still not action buttons. |
| 01:05.07 | Semlar | i think he wants the spell that's on action button 1 not the actual stance button |
| 01:05.18 | phelps | nah, I got action buttons down |
| 01:05.31 | phelps | StanceButton1-w/e |
| 01:05.31 | foxlit | i think he wants the spell thatâs on stance button 1 and thinks he can use the action button APIs to get that. |
| 01:05.40 | phelps | doesn't matter tbh, just curious why |
| 01:05.51 | Semlar | well because the stance bar isn't set up like action buttons are |
| 01:05.54 | Semlar | neither are the pet buttons |
| 01:05.59 | phelps | I wasn't aware they weren't action buttons |
| 01:06.00 | Semlar | for some reason |
| 01:06.12 | foxlit | if they were action buttons, you could replace cat form with Moonfire |
| 01:06.19 | phelps | haha |
| 01:07.01 | Semlar | they literally just call CastShapeshiftForm(id) on the button's id |
| 01:07.22 | phelps | ahh, so there is no way |
| 01:07.23 | Semlar | they don't call an action |
| 01:07.26 | phelps | thats fine |
| 01:07.37 | phelps | screw you stance bar! |
| 01:07.55 | Semlar | no there's a way, assuming you're working with the default StanceButtons |
| 01:08.02 | phelps | and tbh, if they don't know what stance to be in, uninstall wow |
| 01:08.26 | phelps | trying to make my own "Nemo" that doesn't kill fps |
| 01:08.36 | phelps | and isn't a stupid fish |
| 01:08.48 | Semlar | you just call GetShapeshiftFormInfo on the button's :GetID() or something |
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| 01:09.05 | Semlar | i don't really know if those ids match up or not |
| 01:09.14 | Semlar | you'd have to check |
| 01:09.21 | phelps | yeah, that works |
| 01:09.33 | phelps | dunno if it'd be worth it though |
| 01:09.53 | phelps | doesn't fit well into my "loop over action bars" design |
| 01:09.59 | Semlar | you're trying to tell them to click on a certain stance button? |
| 01:10.06 | phelps | HEY MAN! |
| 01:10.09 | phelps | lol |
| 01:10.28 | phelps | I've met some special people in oQ |
| 01:12.10 | phelps | is there a reticle texture thats transparent in the default stuff |
| 01:12.53 | Semlar | the targeting circle is somewhere in there |
| 01:13.13 | phelps | dunno how well that'd scale down to button size |
| 01:13.17 | phelps | I'll try it! |
| 01:13.20 | Semlar | there are button highlight textures |
| 01:13.34 | phelps | yeah, could just make it green or something |
| 01:14.01 | Semlar | there are also the animations that light up a button for a proc |
| 01:14.10 | phelps | ohhhh |
| 01:14.14 | phelps | that'd be neat |
| 01:14.25 | phelps | i bet thats built right on in too |
| 01:15.17 | phelps | SpellActivationOverlay ? |
| 01:15.26 | Semlar | probably |
| 01:15.43 | Semlar | i would make a separate implementation if you're going to use that, not just activate the existing one |
| 01:15.54 | phelps | weeeellll |
| 01:15.59 | phelps | i guess |
| 01:16.09 | Semlar | for one thing it shouldn't look the same |
| 01:16.22 | phelps | have 2 at once, head explodes |
| 01:16.27 | Semlar | but you also don't want the ui shutting down your overlays |
| 01:16.46 | phelps | just add my own texture, it looks simple |
| 01:16.58 | Semlar | i would just cover all your buttons with mushrooms |
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| 01:18.14 | Semlar | i can't even fix my crack cooldown addon because they removed power type and spell cost from GetSpellInfo |
| 01:19.14 | Cidan | that's kinda funny |
| 01:19.17 | Stanzilla | Simca: will you have a repo ready for MSBT for the patch or do I post a dropbox link in my guild's forums? :P |
| 01:19.26 | Cidan | GetSpellInfo -> doesn't return spell info, just kinda fucks with you |
| 01:19.40 | Semlar | i can't believe they removed those values |
| 01:19.57 | Cidan | I'll be driving through Irvine next week |
| 01:20.01 | Cidan | I'll go yell at them |
| 01:20.08 | Cidan | or, hold up a sign |
| 01:20.16 | Simca | the values are static, take from SpellPower.db2 |
| 01:20.19 | foxlit | meh, you know what a tooltip is. |
| 01:20.22 | Semlar | the values aren't static |
| 01:20.30 | phelps | any way to get the amount of time a demology rain of fire will last ? its effected by haste and I've got no idea the math they use |
| 01:20.31 | Semlar | that's the problem |
| 01:20.41 | Semlar | spell cost changes when i do something like pop bestial wrath |
| 01:21.03 | Simca | it is still doable |
| 01:21.13 | Semlar | it is doable, but i'd have to scrape the tooltip basically on update |
| 01:21.32 | Semlar | my addon shows how much time before you recharge enough energy to cast a spell |
| 01:22.12 | Simca | no, i mean without tooltips. you could connect the db pieces together to parse the tooltips offline |
| 01:22.38 | Simca | create a web of dependencies for buffs and learned spellIDs that affect the values |
| 01:22.44 | Semlar | i need to know the realtime cost of a spell on an action button |
| 01:23.08 | Semlar | scraping the tooltip is probably saner than trying to extrapolate what it should be from the database |
| 01:23.36 | Simca | probably |
| 01:23.44 | Simca | but where is the fun in sane |
| 01:23.50 | Semlar | the main issue is the high cost of string comparisons |
| 01:24.19 | Semlar | since i need the power "type" and not just the number out of the line |
| 01:24.21 | Simca | the database approach is definitely less resource intensive |
| 01:24.37 | Semlar | how would that work |
| 01:24.55 | Semlar | it'd have to factor in whatever buffs i have that affect my power costs |
| 01:24.58 | foxlit | first you make a list of every spell-cost-reducing effect in the game |
| 01:25.07 | foxlit | then you desperately try to figure out which ones are active at any given time. |
| 01:25.08 | Semlar | there is no way that would be more efficient |
| 01:25.21 | Simca | there would be no string comparisons |
| 01:25.22 | Semlar | plus you'd need a huuuge database |
| 01:25.26 | Simca | the table would be ridiculously complex |
| 01:25.40 | Simca | but the active CPU time would be less |
| 01:25.43 | Simca | it would be faster |
| 01:25.57 | Semlar | ehh |
| 01:27.01 | Semlar | i could probably get away with not actually detecting the power type |
| 01:27.11 | Simca | spell tooltip parsing is one of the few things related to dbcs/db2s that I have avoided actually, so I'm mostly just interested in watching your efforts |
| 01:27.19 | Simca | lol |
| 01:27.47 | Semlar | i could just strip the number out of the power line and make a guess |
| 01:27.52 | Simca | so many $, gives me nightmares of PHP |
| 01:28.25 | Semlar | it would only really be an issue for druids and death knights and paladins and whoever else uses multiple energy things |
| 01:28.44 | Semlar | and let's be honest here i only care about hunters |
| 01:29.58 | Semlar | i just hope the tooltip can actually update that fast |
| 01:31.48 | Simca | I spent the last night screwing around with a funny idea: a CASCRebuilder, to parse the journals and the indexes and use the differences between them to catalog all of the garbage filling the data files of WoW. after that, it reads all of the data files and rebuilds them piece by piece after verifying that they are still needed. |
| 01:32.19 | Simca | should be ready to test it (read: corrupt my install heavily) in an hour or so |
| 01:33.19 | foxlit | it might jsut be easier to remove all data files, and hijack the CDN. |
| 01:33.37 | Semlar | did they make any changes to how roles work in WoD? can you still be in a raid without a role? |
| 01:34.03 | Simca | wow is already good at streaming the entire game on the fly, actually |
| 01:34.07 | Semlar | it really should automatically set your role based on your spec |
| 01:34.21 | foxlit | (or at least thatâd be easier for me to arrange, since I then wouldnât have to worry about all the non-data junk) |
| 01:34.31 | Simca | i had to delete the entire data directory several times during alpha, since every other patch seemed to cause data corruption |
| 01:34.48 | Simca | and WoW was very cooperative for having nothing but an exe file |
| 01:35.13 | kd3 | I'm amazed that I never had to reinstall alpha/beta, especially when dealing with wine |
| 01:36.22 | Simca | i never had any issues after the time they started calling it beta, though i think chaud still had one or two more |
| 01:36.28 | Simca | WoW is very good to him |
| 01:37.20 | chaud | that was the bad network card |
| 01:37.41 | chaud | no idea how it ended up corrupting things and error checking not catching it |
| 01:42.03 | kd3 | gah, that's crazy. the 6.0.2 patch notes is the 5th-biggest article on the wiki |
| 01:43.10 | Simca | add a few kitten pictures |
| 01:43.12 | Simca | set a record |
| 01:43.31 | foxlit | closely behind http://wowpedia.org/Forum:Should_WoWWiki_leave_Wikia%3F , eh? |
| 01:43.48 | kd3 | was kinda hoping it'd beat that |
| 01:46.58 | Simca | it still can |
| 01:47.04 | Simca | *wink wink* *nudge nudge* |
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| 01:56.18 | Simca | hey Semlar I was dissecting some more WoD/late-MoP structure changes on Friday and I found a way to relate ObjectID <--> VignetteID out of game |
| 01:56.29 | Semlar | oh yeah? |
| 01:56.40 | Simca | so if you want a hardcoded table of which ObjectID should be which VignetteID, I can provide that |
| 01:57.01 | Semlar | objects but not NPCs? |
| 01:57.18 | Simca | NPCs can't be remotely as complicated objects, heh |
| 01:57.38 | Semlar | can you get the npc IDs too? |
| 01:57.41 | Simca | there are like 46 types of objects, and every single type uses different column header names |
| 01:57.57 | Simca | only type 3 and type 10 correlate to vignetteID |
| 01:58.12 | Simca | 'chests' and 'goobers' |
| 01:58.16 | Semlar | is this from cached objects? |
| 01:58.21 | Simca | yeah |
| 01:58.28 | Simca | gameobjects.wdb |
| 01:58.37 | Semlar | so they have a flag somewhere that says they're vignette X |
| 01:59.11 | Simca | yep, lemme put them in a list rq |
| 01:59.15 | Semlar | yeah i want a table of vignette to object ID and if possible the NPC ids |
| 02:02.27 | Semlar | i need to convert the object ids to model paths but i don't have to do that right now |
| 02:03.53 | Simca | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D6yVZ0kZKpbthwND56JhXqpYpza37xKYIg5Y9Nl0JG4/edit?usp=sharing |
| 02:04.09 | Simca | I will look at NPCs, but i don't see anything super obvious |
| 02:04.24 | Semlar | okey |
| 02:06.19 | Simca | because this is based on wdb data; it won't be complete for WoD yet |
| 02:06.34 | Simca | but it is a start |
| 02:06.46 | Semlar | i think everything above 9 is from the timeless isle |
| 02:12.28 | Semlar | now that wowhead has objects from the cache, i can probably scrape most of what i need off the site |
| 02:14.50 | Simca | yeah i can probably get an updated dump from wowdb devs tomorrow, which will surely have all of WoD; this is a week old, from before Curse Client was active on beta |
| 02:16.56 | Kemayo | This is handy... |
| 02:17.08 | Semlar | tries to calm kemayo down |
| 02:17.20 | Kemayo | 's cool. |
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| 02:54.22 | Semlar | o god |
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| 02:57.48 | Neffi_ | "Users quit: Neffi" wat? |
| 02:57.51 | Neffi_ | oh, I see |
| 02:57.59 | Semlar | neffi! |
| 02:58.08 | Neffi_ | 'ey |
| 02:58.09 | Semlar | you survived! |
| 02:58.12 | Neffi_ | aye |
| 02:58.20 | Semlar | make me a sandwich |
| 02:58.35 | Neffi_ | only if you make me one |
| 02:58.44 | Semlar | fair enough |
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| 03:03.58 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:05.46 | kullervo | that's horrifying, Semlar |
| 03:06.09 | Semlar | yeah, probably |
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| 03:09.26 | Neffi_ | Semlar: yo dawg |
| 03:09.43 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:11.54 | Semlar | it's adorable :3 |
| 03:12.15 | Neffi_ | in a horrifying sort of way |
| 03:12.37 | Semlar | just keep it away from your fingers |
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| 03:29.24 | kd3 | huh, if you haven't changed your dropbox password, now's about time. http://thenextweb.com/apps/2014/10/14/dropbox-passwords-leak-online-alleged-hack/ |
| 03:29.46 | Semlar | there's an app for that? |
| 03:31.22 | Semlar | sounds like the account information was taken from a different compromised service and just used to see if they could log into dropbox with it |
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| 04:40.45 | Semlar | alright, well the good news is i am able to pull the power cost and type out of the tooltip, the bad news is it's horribly inefficient |
| 04:42.32 | Semlar | i have to use strmatch then gsub to strip the number separator out of the string before converting it into a number |
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| 04:49.21 | Semlar | thankfully i don't have to check rune cost or anything |
| 04:50.33 | Semlar | i could probably drop support for mana and wouldn't need to strip out commas |
| 04:52.11 | Semlar | can you even run out of mana any more |
| 04:52.33 | kd3 | for casters? only if you spam spellsteal |
| 04:52.57 | Semlar | i tried to waste my shaman's mana on the beta casting its most expensive spell repeatedly and couldn't manage to use it faster than it was regenerating |
| 04:54.28 | Semlar | oh, i can do it spamming healing surge |
| 04:55.24 | Semlar | just wanted to make sure it was still possible |
| 05:02.20 | Semlar | any idea what the cvar is for showing cooldown numbers on buttons |
| 05:04.49 | Semlar | seems to be countdownForCooldowns |
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| 05:19.20 | Semlar | is there an updated list of raid buffs for WoD |
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| 05:39.22 | Jamash | good luck on patch day guys |
| 05:39.36 | Jamash | catch you on the flip side |
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| 06:20.43 | Simca | i will try to look into the power cost/spell type issue in the next few days and try my solution; it would be a pretty speedy solution and it could be implemented as a library for other addons |
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| 06:28.02 | Semlar | Simca: http://pastebin.com/mgKV29XA this is essentially what i'm doing |
| 06:28.49 | Semlar | but my addon only needs mana, focus and energy |
| 06:33.45 | Semlar | seems to work well enough |
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| 07:29.00 | haste | Fisker: you need to fix your language |
| 07:29.05 | haste | Fisker: reading danish is so horrible :P |
| 07:29.14 | Fisker | no u |
| 07:33.57 | Constie | Accurate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk |
| 07:38.58 | haste | pretty much |
| 07:47.59 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlATOHGj9EY heh |
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| 09:20.43 | Semlar | Patch 6.0.2 merges the Alliance, Horde, and Neutral auction houses into one for each realm. |
| 09:20.49 | Semlar | i guess i missed this particular change |
| 09:21.59 | Constie | Definitely happy about that. |
| 09:21.59 | rid_ | poor you :/ |
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| 11:27.24 | Simca | restart battle.net app to patch live to 6.0.2 |
| 11:29.33 | nevcairiel | Simca: didnt work :( |
| 11:29.46 | Simca | EU? |
| 11:30.10 | nevcairiel | obviously I'm trolling you |
| 11:30.27 | nevcairiel | i didnt even bother with the restart :P |
| 11:30.31 | Fisker | Worked for me nevcairiel |
| 11:30.52 | nevcairiel | which build number is it now anyway? |
| 11:31.11 | Simca | exes are 19027 |
| 11:33.13 | Maldivia | hmm... I wonder if my install will update today or tomorrow... since I have both EU and US installed :) |
| 11:34.16 | nevcairiel | does the b.net client do that happily, manage both EU and US accounts? |
| 11:34.50 | Maldivia | yeah, no problem... the wow just lists them all |
| 11:34.56 | Maldivia | wow dropdown* |
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| 11:35.19 | Simca | if (region1 == "US" && region2 == "EU") { throw (exception)("YOU MUST PICK A FACTION"); } |
| 11:37.06 | Simca | well I haven't slept since mid Sunday, I should probably get 3 hours sleep before patch |
| 11:37.20 | Semlar | nope |
| 11:37.22 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: https://www.dropbox.com/s/92enk6do2id0gft/Screenshot%202014-10-14%2014.35.07.png?dl=0 |
| 11:38.00 | Simca | it'll probably depend on the battle.net account's home regoin |
| 11:38.03 | Simca | region even |
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| 11:39.02 | Maldivia | Simca: more likely the "download_region" specified in the agent-entry |
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| 11:50.51 | karl_w_w | holy shit this stealth cruiser is just the most useless ship |
| 12:01.55 | Maldivia | Simca: did you look at the recent catalog update ? |
| 12:12.55 | Simca | Maldivia: no, just assumed wow:ngdp update |
| 12:13.50 | Maldivia | Simca: some weird wow-variant changes |
| 12:15.39 | Simca | possibly to accommodate for europe |
| 12:16.27 | Simca | wow:ngdp change would be global |
| 12:16.40 | Simca | it would force europe to convert 1 day early |
| 12:17.35 | Maldivia | well, the ngdp update came throgh the blob change |
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| 12:18.07 | Maldivia | but they removed the MoP variant, and there are now two BC variants |
| 12:18.10 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:23.20 | Maldivia | ~wowalert |
| 12:23.20 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 12:29.23 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Fiskerdin. |
| 12:41.06 | Fisker | Morning :O |
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| 13:10.58 | Miiru | anybody can tell me why local r,g,b = ClassColor(unit) |
| 13:10.59 | Miiru | local permiss = Percent(HP(unit),MaxHP(unit)) |
| 13:10.59 | Miiru | local miss = MaxHP(unit) - HP(unit) |
| 13:10.59 | Miiru | if permiss >75 then |
| 13:10.59 | Miiru | return miss |
| 13:10.59 | Miiru | end works perfectly and local r,g,b = ClassColor(unit) |
| 13:11.01 | Miiru | local permiss = Percent(HP(unit),MaxHP(unit)) |
| 13:11.03 | Miiru | local miss = MaxHP(unit) - HP(unit) |
| 13:11.05 | Miiru | if permiss >75 then |
| 13:11.07 | Miiru | return "|cf00FF00%s|r",miss |
| 13:11.09 | Miiru | end only show 4 digits number?! |
| 13:11.49 | nevcairiel | your color code is one f too short |
| 13:12.06 | nevcairiel | its AARRGGBB |
| 13:12.09 | nevcairiel | you lack one A |
| 13:12.39 | Maldivia | (also, sites like pastebin.com exists so you don't have to spam channels with 10 lines of code) |
| 13:14.14 | Miiru | its even written in the howto file, maybe i shoudl get some sleep >.> |
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| 14:11.00 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:36.59 | Guillotine | Happy Patch Day! |
| 14:37.59 | TC-Work | Thats just mean Guillotine. |
| 14:38.06 | haste | happy just got back from vacation and suddenly have to do stuff day \:D/ |
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| 14:49.55 | Semlar | Guillotine: what happened to the power type and power cost returns from GetSpellInfo! |
| 14:53.06 | nevcairiel | they got eaten |
| 14:53.45 | Semlar | :O |
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| 15:06.48 | Guillotine | Semlar: It turned out that they were wrong about half the time anyway so they were removed |
| 15:07.16 | Semlar | wrong!? |
| 15:07.44 | Peppy-Away | lurves Jelly, even if he's older than dirt. |
| 15:07.45 | Semlar | i have to scrape the tooltip now to figure out the spell cost >_> |
| 15:10.44 | Semlar | whatever it was returning before worked well enough for my abilities, i was using it to show how much time before i regenerated enough energy to cast a spell when i didn't have enough energy to cast it |
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| 15:20.01 | Semlar | Guillotine: oh yeah, i was going to ask you why most of the spell functions don't work with transformed spells, like IsSpellKnown fails with cobra shot because it replaces steady shot |
| 15:21.57 | nevcairiel | ^ super annoying behaviour |
| 15:22.09 | Semlar | if you use the spell ID, at least |
| 15:22.11 | nevcairiel | you have a spell on the action bar, but a bunch of spell APIs dont recognize it because of this |
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| 15:26.10 | Guillotine | Semlar: Believe me, we hate it just as much as you :P It's just something we need to get the time to fix |
| 15:26.39 | Semlar | Guillotine: also quite often when i log into the beta GetQuestsCompleted() will be empty and you can't check if you've completed any quests |
| 15:27.22 | Semlar | only quests that you complete during that session can be checked |
| 15:27.41 | Semlar | relogging sometimes fixes it |
| 15:27.50 | Semlar | reloading doesn't |
| 15:30.52 | Semlar | IsQuestFlaggedCompleted doesn't work either when that function isn't working, so i'm assuming they're pulling data from the same place |
| 15:36.41 | jleclanche | Guillotine: speaking of tooltips, who was it who had the bright idea not to reuse the regular tooltip code for battlepet tooltips :( |
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| 15:38.36 | TC-Work | I'm so waiting for him to say "Me". |
| 15:38.44 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 15:38.50 | jleclanche | go on i dare you. |
| 15:39.22 | kd3|hate`net | hm. I logged out in UBRS next to Awbee. I wonder where I'm going to wind up tonight/tomorrow when the servers come back up |
| 15:39.35 | Semlar | in the void |
| 15:39.44 | Semlar | aka the crossroads |
| 15:39.45 | Gethe | at the neaest GY |
| 15:39.59 | jleclanche | kd3: i remember logging out in some destroyed area right before 4.0, i got logged back in at the stormwind inn |
| 15:40.03 | Gethe | s/neaest/nearest/ |
| 15:40.14 | nevcairiel | its either the next GY or your hearth spot |
| 15:40.24 | Simca | stonetalon mountains |
| 15:40.56 | Semlar | i figured that one out, stonetalon is at 0,0 on the instance coordinates |
| 15:41.15 | nevcairiel | would probably be westfall then tho |
| 15:41.21 | nevcairiel | it has the 0,0 of t hat continent |
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| 15:41.55 | Semlar | i assume it just dumps you at 0,0 when the server gets confused about where you're supposed to be |
| 15:42.13 | kd3 | nah, the default gy for alliance is westfall if the server doesn't have anywhere else to send you |
| 15:42.21 | kd3 | same for horde at razor hill |
| 15:42.40 | jleclanche | when the server's confused it dumps you at your hearthstone spot. it should never leave you at stonetalon/westfall, if it does its usually a bug) |
| 15:42.48 | Semlar | we had a zeppelin take us into stonetalon when we basically crashed the server trying to send a bunch of raids over to the other continent at once |
| 15:42.55 | nevcairiel | it used to do it more often in classic or stuff, |
| 15:43.00 | nevcairiel | havent ended up there for a long time |
| 15:43.14 | Simca | yeah i ended up in stonetalon in wrath via a zeppelin |
| 15:43.25 | kd3 | one of my fondest memories in classic, winding up in stonetalon on a ship 1000 yds up trying to cross continents |
| 15:43.30 | kd3 | with about 6 other raids... |
| 15:43.33 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: yeah, they fixed most of those issues, and fall back to hearthstone more often |
| 15:43.44 | Torhal | Elkano: T'was jnwhiteh |
| 15:44.38 | Semlar | i think guillotine went back to watching netflix, he doesn't have time for the little people |
| 15:44.48 | jleclanche | kd3: i just finished my 9999 dinosaur bones. in two days ill go from 7 slots free to 7 slots used... |
| 15:45.16 | kd3 | hah |
| 15:45.58 | Guillotine | jleclanche: That actually was me :P We don't have a great way to support things like health bars (or the vertical ability list in an old design) in standard tooltips |
| 15:46.05 | jleclanche | fucking knew it. |
| 15:46.15 | Guillotine | Also, the giant icons |
| 15:46.33 | nevcairiel | designer say, poor ui dev do? |
| 15:46.42 | Guillotine | Zug zug |
| 15:47.00 | jleclanche | Guillotine: yeah its horrifying tho, it doesnt support the same set of events. cf the giant hack in https://github.com/jleclanche/linkhover/blob/master/LinkHover/LinkHover.lua |
| 15:47.31 | jleclanche | and pets remaining after hitting esc etc |
| 15:47.42 | nevcairiel | now you know who to get fired tho |
| 15:47.44 | Simca | I make BattlePetBreedID and a hacky solution to support GameTooltip methods and Battle Pet methods is inheriting both: "TooltipBorderedFrameTemplate,GameTooltipTemplate" |
| 15:47.48 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: exactly |
| 15:47.55 | Simca | they actually work quite well together |
| 15:48.39 | jleclanche | i have a love-hate relationship with the c tooltips |
| 15:48.58 | jleclanche | then again that describes just about everything in this game i dont have a hate-hate relationship with... |
| 15:49.12 | TC-Work | You know what is horrifying? Using 'tho'. |
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| 15:49.43 | nevcairiel | i'm lazy, deal with it |
| 15:49.54 | TC-Work | No. |
| 15:49.59 | TC-Work | I will rage at it. |
| 15:50.04 | Torhal | You work moar harder and betterer! |
| 15:50.14 | jleclanche | TC-Work: I was in a swedish-dutch guild back in 2004, still learning english then |
| 15:50.22 | jleclanche | for a long time i thought "hej" was an english word |
| 15:50.43 | TC-Work | What exactly does then have to do with now? |
| 15:50.50 | TC-Work | It sounds like you know better. |
| 15:52.30 | jleclanche | Maybe |
| 15:52.44 | jleclanche | Semlar: https://mediacru.sh/J5KAgKT-5iVG |
| 15:52.44 | jleclanche | \o/ |
| 15:53.11 | Simca | I wonder if the moderators would permit us to make a 'list thread' if we had a thread in UI and Macro discussions that was a list of current API bugs, with links to the bug reports |
| 15:53.33 | Semlar | jleclanche: now you have to do the healer one as a mage |
| 15:53.59 | nevcairiel | jleclanche: just out of curiosity, what makes endless damage hard? its not like endless healer where you run oom eventually :p |
| 15:54.23 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: 1% additional hp per wave |
| 15:54.33 | Semlar | yeah don't even joke about that |
| 15:54.41 | Semlar | endless damage is no picnic |
| 15:54.49 | nevcairiel | so, you just have to damage moar? :p |
| 15:54.58 | Semlar | SO YOU JUST HAVE TO HEAL MORE |
| 15:55.00 | jleclanche | Simca: they'd permit us, then a few of us would jump in and ruin the whole thing in about 30 minutes |
| 15:55.07 | nevcairiel | Semlar: i would, but my mana runs out! |
| 15:55.18 | Semlar | HEAL MORE BETTER |
| 15:55.18 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: so you just have to heal less |
| 15:56.09 | jleclanche | Semlar: endless damage felt hard but very doable tbh. it took me four shots over 2 years :P |
| 15:56.36 | nevcairiel | I only tried for a bit like a year ago to do endless healer, i didnt bother to respec for the best talents or anything, just cba :d |
| 15:56.49 | jleclanche | the first time i didnt know the achievement was a thing, the second time i got bored, the third time i wasnt flasked, and the fourth time i got to wave 35 and got bored again |
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| 15:57.24 | Semlar | yeah well try to do it as beast mastery where your pet will literally just run back and forth between targets without attacking when you have multiple enemies on screen |
| 15:57.42 | jleclanche | so you just have to hunter less. |
| 15:58.15 | Semlar | you basically have to go survival for it and hunter damage is pretty bad at that item level |
| 15:58.21 | Semlar | hunters did not scale well |
| 15:58.44 | jleclanche | hunters don't scale, didn't you hear rexxar? |
| 15:58.47 | jleclanche | "I hunt alone" |
| 15:59.04 | nevcairiel | i wonder if the new PGs work better, where they scale them enemies instead of you |
| 16:00.40 | Semlar | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/wyrmrest-accord/Bodypull/advanced o god my glyphs |
| 16:01.07 | nevcairiel | they are gone! |
| 16:01.12 | Semlar | someone stole my glyphs! |
| 16:01.33 | Torhal | replaced them with heiroglyphics. |
| 16:01.42 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: my pets are gone actually. i logged out for a month, logged back in and all my pet slots were empty |
| 16:02.22 | nevcairiel | that happened to my char as well, its not like the pets were actually gone, just no longer assigned to the team |
| 16:02.23 | Stanzilla | well done, jerome |
| 16:02.58 | jleclanche | oh god go away |
| 16:03.15 | jleclanche | it's like I'm being stalked |
| 16:03.23 | jleclanche | except even weirder. |
| 16:04.20 | Stanzilla | :( |
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| 16:36.34 | TC-Work | ~Stanzilla++ |
| 16:36.39 | TC-Work | Stalk harder. |
| 16:37.22 | zenzelezz | protip: If you're making a website where people can search arbitrarily for Unicode characters, escape wildcard characters like "?" and "*" in the input string |
| 16:37.48 | zenzelezz | (looking at you, fileformat.info) |
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| 16:44.15 | Maldivia | why? :D |
| 16:45.35 | zenzelezz | because searching for just "*" and "?" took forever to return |
| 16:46.05 | zenzelezz | I wanted the values of those specific characters, but didn't expect it to match every single code point |
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| 17:19.59 | Peppy-Away | la la la la <div> tags are evil la la la |
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| 17:44.40 | bluspacecow | wowinterfaceâs Minion - does it keep back up copies of the zips it downloads or does it just download update then delete ? |
| 17:46.55 | Constie | Oh, I guess I could finally try that thing out, to save some effort with updating things for the patch. |
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| 17:47.59 | TC-Work | I found minion and the curse client fighting over addons to be less than amusing. |
| 17:49.51 | Constie | Never tried the Curse Client. I assume it's as annoying to use as the site. |
| 17:51.20 | TC-Work | I don't consider either to be annoying. |
| 17:51.23 | Ressy | No.. Its really easy. |
| 17:51.32 | Ressy | unless you're mac.. then you gotta wait |
| 17:53.09 | kd3 | ~wowalert |
| 17:53.10 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 17:56.34 | Constie | "Changes made in OPie configuration panels are now applied immediately" |
| 17:56.37 | Constie | Best news I've heard all week. |
| 17:57.02 | foxlit | That was like a year ago? |
| 17:57.56 | Constie | That's odd. I got the version I had from the WoWI site a month or two ago. |
| 17:59.33 | Constie | Wonderful, anyway. |
| 18:00.02 | foxlit | the note is from L1, which is march â13; current is R1, september â14. |
| 18:01.06 | karl_w_w | 6.0.2 download hasn't gone out yet? |
| 18:01.15 | kd3 | it's out. I've already patched |
| 18:01.21 | kd3 | 6.0.2.19027 |
| 18:01.27 | foxlit | (but it was kind of amusing to watch youtube tutorial videos that go âNow, Iâve created this ring, let me just go set its key binding⦠oh⦠wait⦠crap.â) |
| 18:01.31 | Constie | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9094-OPie.html |
| 18:01.32 | karl_w_w | hmm |
| 18:01.46 | kd3 | restart bnet (kill all agent/launcher apps) |
| 18:01.56 | foxlit | Constie: yes, out of date; http://www.townlong-yak.com/opie/ or http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/opie |
| 18:02.11 | Constie | That would do it. |
| 18:02.21 | karl_w_w | ahh odd |
| 18:02.45 | karl_w_w | i restarted it and the version shown on the launcher changed without it appearing to do any patching |
| 18:03.00 | bluspacecow | yes see nthing |
| 18:03.04 | bluspacecow | *waggles fingers* |
| 18:03.10 | bluspacecow | the BDA just jedi mind tricked you |
| 18:03.20 | karl_w_w | installs bluspacecow |
| 18:03.25 | bluspacecow | on ? |
| 18:03.55 | karl_w_w | purpose |
| 18:04.13 | Constie | Also thank you for this wonderful addon, foxlit! I've never not been using it since it was pretty new. |
| 18:05.12 | karl_w_w | i dont know if i should resub |
| 18:05.28 | karl_w_w | the half dozen people who use my addons probably want me to update them |
| 18:06.28 | Constie | The earlier UI screenshot I have with an included addon list is from October 2009, and OPie is in there. That's five years and now I feel old. |
| 18:06.41 | Constie | s/earlier/earliest/ |
| 18:06.51 | mitchnull | karl_w_w: just use a tiral acc |
| 18:07.12 | karl_w_w | can't, have to be max level mage for one of them |
| 18:07.16 | foxlit | mm, itâs scary that itâs been six years. |
| 18:07.22 | karl_w_w | its not like im not going to resub anyway at some point |
| 18:07.36 | mitchnull | karl_w_w: trial acc + ptr |
| 18:07.55 | karl_w_w | installing ptr seems like more work than subbing :P |
| 18:09.25 | VIad | 6.0 in 14 hours guys - maybe more, since big patch day |
| 18:09.26 | VIad | :) |
| 18:10.37 | zenzelezz | for all you know it could be six hours. Unlikely, but the only fixed time they have is when it'll start; the finishing time is an educated guess |
| 18:11.01 | TC-Work | Soon(tm) |
| 18:11.16 | VIad | they start patching in 7 hours roughly |
| 18:11.18 | VIad | us is earlier |
| 18:11.25 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: its safe to assume it wont end before the announced end time |
| 18:11.41 | VIad | they are patching the us already right? |
| 18:11.45 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 18:11.51 | nevcairiel | was supposed to be up 11 minutes ago |
| 18:11.52 | VIad | ours haven't :3 |
| 18:11.53 | nevcairiel | but got extended |
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| 18:12.36 | VIad | going to be in my bed in 3 hours :p |
| 18:13.29 | zenzelezz | at eleven o'clock? What are you, 80? |
| 18:16.54 | VIad | too tired |
| 18:18.20 | jleclanche | kd3: haha |
| 18:18.26 | jleclanche | "The diffstat from 5.4.8-6.0.2 is 400 lines long" |
| 18:18.34 | jleclanche | "Oh that's surprisingly short" |
| 18:18.38 | jleclanche | "OH DIFFSTAT" |
| 18:19.34 | kd3 | yah |
| 18:22.16 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 18:22.59 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:23.06 | nevcairiel | 400 lines of file names? |
| 18:23.34 | kd3 | $ diffstat -m 5.4.8.18414-6.0.2.19027.diff.txt |wc -l |
| 18:23.34 | kd3 | 401 |
| 18:24.11 | kd3 | nite_moogle says the servers are up |
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| 18:24.26 | nevcairiel | only half an hour overtime, thats good |
| 18:24.47 | kd3 | also, don't look at your toybox. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14882688134#1 |
| 18:25.13 | Guillotine | Semlar: Was that quests completed issue you were seeing in 5.4.8 or 6.0 beta? |
| 18:25.22 | kd3 | I was seeing it in 6.0 |
| 18:25.22 | Semlar | beta |
| 18:25.29 | Semlar | and it was quite often |
| 18:25.48 | Guillotine | Thanks <3 |
| 18:26.29 | Semlar | i have no idea about 5.4 because i didn't have a reason to check completed quests for it |
| 18:26.57 | Semlar | but for 6.0 i was periodically checking completed quests which made it really obvious when it wasn't working |
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| 18:30.35 | Neffi | oh god. i got a call saying my computer is sending viruses to everyone |
| 18:30.38 | Neffi | ;) |
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| 18:32.21 | TC-Work | Stop having sex with your computer then. |
| 18:33.15 | Neffi | they have received notification that my computer has received trojan malware virus and damaging other computers |
| 18:34.05 | Primer | tell them they fail |
| 18:34.07 | Primer | at IT |
| 18:34.34 | Neffi | wiating to get the url they direct me to |
| 18:35.42 | bluspacecow | tell them you donât have a computer |
| 18:36.35 | Guillotine | Neffi: Boot up a Windows 95 VM and play along >.> |
| 18:36.40 | Neffi | LOL |
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| 18:38.11 | TC-Work | Neffi: An actual phone call? |
| 18:38.28 | Neffi | yup |
| 18:38.35 | TC-Work | Ballsy |
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| 18:40.42 | karl_w_w | i have family who have had that call |
| 18:40.57 | karl_w_w | thankfully none of them fell for it so i can still talk to them |
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| 18:47.19 | karl_w_w | tomb raider is just $4 on steam right now |
| 18:47.28 | karl_w_w | i can recommend |
| 18:48.51 | Elkano | you could also recommend the Humble mozilla Bundle ;) |
| 18:48.56 | bluspacecow | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsjBrL5qw4U |
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| 18:50.45 | karl_w_w | sorry Elkano |
| 18:50.54 | karl_w_w | I don't believe in freedom of choice |
| 18:52.03 | TC-Work | Despite karl_w_w's closemindedness, I do agree about Tomb Raider. Very well done. |
| 18:52.50 | Semlar | well my proven assailant title appears to be gone |
| 18:52.59 | Semlar | i guess i'm not good enough |
| 18:53.31 | Elkano | yeah, if you don't play with historic expectations it's not that bad a game; I did enjoy it |
| 18:54.50 | TC-Work | I never play a game with any expectation but enjoyment and entertainment. |
| 18:55.13 | TC-Work | And despite my best efforts, from time to time I do learn something. |
| 18:55.43 | Peppy-Away | No wai, TC. |
| 18:56.19 | Elkano | well, a new title from an established series usually causes t least some expectations for people that used to play the older versions |
| 18:56.39 | Simca | I know this isn't completely the right channel, but anyone know how to make CurseForge package the latest alpha of a library instead of the latest release version? |
| 18:56.50 | Kaelten | just put in a commit |
| 18:57.01 | Kaelten | and make sure package alphas is enabled |
| 18:57.11 | Simca | where is that option? |
| 18:57.22 | Kaelten | link to your project? |
| 18:58.47 | Simca | not my project to control, but it is http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/wowdb-profiler/repositories/mainline/ |
| 18:59.02 | Kaelten | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/wowdb-profiler/repositories/mainline/edit/ |
| 18:59.13 | Kaelten | there is a dropdown, which on that project is set to Release only |
| 18:59.22 | Simca | ah ok |
| 18:59.38 | Simca | I will poke the manager |
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| 18:59.59 | Simca | only 6.0.2 compatible LibMapData is alpha, sadly |
| 19:04.05 | Semlar | why did i try to load outdated addons |
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| 19:04.26 | mikma | why wouldn't you :P |
| 19:04.34 | Semlar | i immediately regret that decision |
| 19:05.41 | Semlar | i blame ace |
| 19:06.36 | Simca | if using old addons, it's probably highly recommended to run no-lib versions and download alpha libraries directly |
| 19:06.50 | karl_w_w | no Semlar |
| 19:06.57 | karl_w_w | ace rimmer is never to blame for anything |
| 19:07.14 | Semlar | every single ace addon is upset about something |
| 19:07.31 | Semlar | i should probably update it |
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| 19:11.02 | Simca | i'm a winner, i found another repeatable crash |
| 19:11.17 | Semlar | i'm having some difficulty not crashing at the moment |
| 19:11.17 | Simca | clicking on the Arena Warmaster's Horn toy slot when you don't have it causes http://i.imgur.com/NAEm3uC.png |
| 19:11.36 | nevcairiel | always with the nullptr derefs |
| 19:11.44 | Semlar | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14882688134 |
| 19:12.34 | Simca | ah, the toybox doesn't know how to request item data for unseen items |
| 19:12.50 | Simca | so he's making you populate the item-sparse.adb with a login/exit game |
| 19:13.07 | Semlar | break all the items |
| 19:13.55 | Constie | I like the sarcastic air quotes in 'The memory could not be "read".' |
| 19:14.16 | Semlar | stupid sarcastic dialog window |
| 19:14.23 | nevcairiel | thats just windows being windows |
| 19:21.37 | bluspacecow | 35 years ago ⦠oh so weâre going back to 1979 XD |
| 19:21.44 | fewyn | sweet getall scans disconnect me 100% of the time |
| 19:22.15 | nevcairiel | the combined power of three auction houses is too much! |
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| 19:29.07 | kd3|hate`net | oh wow, oops. bgs and skirmishes were getting scaled up to 99 |
| 19:29.28 | Maldivia | ohh bnet... why do you have to hate people so much on patch days... |
| 19:33.13 | kd3 | bleh. JP/VP are still in our currency panes, even though they're zeroed out |
| 19:35.09 | Semlar | jesus christ it's asking me if i want to load my outdated addons every time i log out |
| 19:35.12 | nevcairiel | move them to inactive and forge tabout them |
| 19:37.36 | Semlar | apparently saying "load anyway" to the popup without going into the addon list and checking "load outdated addons" makes it show the message every time |
| 19:38.45 | jnwhiteh | I'm out of hard drive space =( |
| 19:38.58 | jnwhiteh | will someone please ping me when the addon patch for WoD comes out? |
| 19:39.02 | jnwhiteh | I need to get my addons updated for it |
| 19:39.08 | jnwhiteh | but I need to get rid of this 40GB installation >< |
| 19:39.22 | Semlar | define addon patch |
| 19:39.31 | jnwhiteh | the interface changes ahead of the expansion |
| 19:39.38 | Semlar | that would be now |
| 19:39.39 | jnwhiteh | they've done it 3 times now, I figured they'll do it this time too |
| 19:39.41 | nevcairiel | for EU, a couple hours from now? |
| 19:39.41 | bluspacecow | mmm |
| 19:39.42 | jnwhiteh | oh, is it out? |
| 19:39.45 | jnwhiteh | oh shiz! |
| 19:39.46 | bluspacecow | now for US soon for EU |
| 19:39.50 | bluspacecow | come with 6.0.2 |
| 19:39.59 | jnwhiteh | guess I'll be doing that, then |
| 19:40.01 | bluspacecow | ace 3âs updated tho so thatâs good news |
| 19:40.01 | nevcairiel | its always funny when someone asks such things on the exact day its happening |
| 19:40.07 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 19:40.10 | bluspacecow | itâs like |
| 19:40.14 | bluspacecow | âare we there yet ?â |
| 19:40.15 | jnwhiteh | bluspacecow: what updates were needed? |
| 19:40.18 | bluspacecow | when you arrive |
| 19:40.36 | bluspacecow | havenât gotten that far sorry. still neck deep in tech support threads |
| 19:40.48 | Semlar | i need to log onto like 50 different characters to check my mail for gold |
| 19:41.03 | bluspacecow | there is a forum on it at wowinterface.com. i expect teh folks at wowace.com have it too |
| 19:42.04 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: they just removed a cvar AceDB used for one of its profile keys |
| 19:42.12 | jnwhiteh | TOC is 60000? |
| 19:42.15 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 19:42.16 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: ah, did it crash things? |
| 19:42.28 | nevcairiel | they replaced it with a API call, so quick change |
| 19:42.32 | Cairenn | jnwhiteh: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49448 and http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=153 |
| 19:42.36 | nevcairiel | but yeah, concating nil isnt good |
| 19:42.51 | jnwhiteh | Cairenn: <3 as always |
| 19:42.55 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: link to ace3db? :P |
| 19:42.55 | Cairenn | :) |
| 19:42.57 | jnwhiteh | I'm so lazy, ffs. |
| 19:43.06 | jnwhiteh | wow |
| 19:43.09 | jnwhiteh | fuck ace3db |
| 19:43.15 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/ |
| 19:43.16 | jnwhiteh | that's a valid RGB color code. |
| 19:43.16 | nevcairiel | there! |
| 19:43.21 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:43.24 | jnwhiteh | so its completely ungoogleable. |
| 19:43.34 | nevcairiel | all i know is that tomtom is broke |
| 19:43.39 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: yeah |
| 19:43.43 | jnwhiteh | i should be able to fix it |
| 19:43.43 | jnwhiteh | I think |
| 19:43.57 | Semlar | if it's using SetMapZoom |
| 19:44.18 | jnwhiteh | oh shiz. |
| 19:44.19 | Semlar | it's because they added an extra return to GetmapContinents |
| 19:44.24 | Semlar | and GetMapZones or whatever |
| 19:44.25 | jnwhiteh | more than what was previously broken? |
| 19:44.26 | jnwhiteh | blagh. |
| 19:44.42 | nevcairiel | yeah those two functions return a pair of values now instead of a plain list |
| 19:44.57 | Semlar | the quick fix would be to iterate over it backwards and remove every other item from the table |
| 19:45.04 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: wow really |
| 19:45.07 | nevcairiel | but i think you also use LibMapData, which isn't quite up to snuff yet, kagaro seems to be slacking |
| 19:45.09 | jnwhiteh | you committed a whitespace mismatch |
| 19:45.19 | Simca | libmapdata was fixed 4 days ago |
| 19:45.20 | jnwhiteh | err error |
| 19:45.22 | nevcairiel | where? |
| 19:45.28 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: in initdb |
| 19:45.28 | nevcairiel | Simca: barely, and not by the author |
| 19:45.31 | jnwhiteh | tabs vs spaces |
| 19:45.40 | nevcairiel | i dont think i touched it myself |
| 19:45.45 | nevcairiel | Kaelten did the fix |
| 19:45.49 | jnwhiteh | psh |
| 19:45.50 | jnwhiteh | typical |
| 19:46.11 | Simca | ace3 was fixed 3 months ago |
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| 19:46.24 | Simca | this conversation sounds a little late |
| 19:46.29 | Kaelten | jnwhiteh :( |
| 19:46.36 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 19:46.40 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: i dont see it |
| 19:46.43 | jnwhiteh | i mean its not an actual issue |
| 19:46.47 | nevcairiel | oh there |
| 19:46.52 | nevcairiel | yeah thats kaelten |
| 19:46.53 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 19:47.09 | jnwhiteh | also weird end of line characters by my reckoning. |
| 19:47.23 | Kaelten | on my side? |
| 19:47.23 | Semlar | i thought heirlooms were supposed to have something like the toybox |
| 19:47.25 | jnwhiteh | luckily its Lua |
| 19:47.36 | Kaelten | huh I just made the change in sublime |
| 19:47.51 | kd3 | they were, but the heirloom tab didn't make 6.0 |
| 19:47.58 | fewyn | huh is it just me or do auctions seem to post a lot faster in 6.0? |
| 19:48.28 | nevcairiel | weird eol? crlf is weird now? :p |
| 19:48.57 | Stanzilla | fewyn: does the new sort button work for the bank, too? |
| 19:49.06 | fewyn | let's find out |
| 19:49.16 | fewyn | i'm not actually sure |
| 19:49.23 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: I see windows line endings |
| 19:49.25 | jnwhiteh | dunno why =) |
| 19:49.29 | jnwhiteh | from the downloaded version |
| 19:49.30 | fewyn | it does Stanzilla :D |
| 19:49.32 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: wow is a windows game! |
| 19:49.34 | Stanzilla | nice |
| 19:49.51 | fewyn | sadly it's not on the guildbank |
| 19:50.18 | Semlar | i can just imagine the chaos from auto sorting the guild bank |
| 19:50.20 | nevcairiel | we discussed guildbank sorting some time ago, and with the withdrawl limits it would be super sucky |
| 19:50.39 | nevcairiel | and it affects everyone, not just you |
| 19:51.17 | fewyn | this is for my bank guild :( |
| 19:51.59 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: the file has svn:eol-style native set, which should make whatever you use to checkout generate new lines, but I guess curse set it up to use windows line endings for the package, since 95% of all users are on windows too |
| 19:52.10 | Semlar | oh you have to actually use items to add them to your toy box |
| 19:52.16 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 19:52.20 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: meh, I just committed the nastiness |
| 19:52.38 | Semlar | weeeeelp time to look through a lot of inventories |
| 19:53.12 | Constie | So glad I've essentially only played one character in MoP. |
| 19:53.28 | Semlar | i only play one character in MoP but that doesn't mean i don't have things on old characters |
| 19:53.39 | jnwhiteh | i played MoP |
| 19:53.40 | Stanzilla | I played 12 and tomorrow will be the best day of their lives, so much less stuff to carry around |
| 19:53.41 | jnwhiteh | and got bored =( |
| 19:53.41 | fewyn | http://sig.lanjelin.com/user/fewyn |
| 19:53.43 | jnwhiteh | too slow to level |
| 19:53.44 | nevcairiel | there didnt exist that great many toys before MoP tho |
| 19:53.50 | fewyn | i think that's all my characters |
| 19:53.54 | Constie | Well, also since vanilla. |
| 19:54.00 | Constie | But what nevcairiel said. |
| 19:54.21 | fewyn | oh man just realized reagants stack to 200 |
| 19:54.22 | mikma | fewyn: you bored or something? :P |
| 19:54.23 | fewyn | oh god |
| 19:54.29 | kd3 | I wound up with 89 toys |
| 19:54.33 | kd3 | holy crap |
| 19:54.40 | nevcairiel | that seems like a lot |
| 19:54.48 | fewyn | it is? |
| 19:54.51 | Stanzilla | I will get the achievement for over 100 |
| 19:54.54 | nevcairiel | you must've been collecting a lot of shit |
| 19:55.09 | nevcairiel | well of course, you nearly finished the bigger bag achievement Stanzilla! |
| 19:55.11 | kd3 | http://wowpedia.org/User:Kaydeethree/toys |
| 19:55.16 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: yeah |
| 19:55.27 | kd3 | I still need to poke nite_moogle about nat's chair |
| 19:55.28 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: a lot of those are not in though |
| 19:55.29 | bluspacecow | TIL kd3 shares his toys |
| 19:55.34 | Stanzilla | they have charges => no toy box |
| 19:55.34 | kd3 | since I tossed it but can't get it recovered, it looks like |
| 19:55.36 | TC-Work | Really do not want to know about your toys kd3. |
| 19:56.06 | mikma | lul |
| 19:56.12 | Constie | I made a suggestions forum post about a fishing chair years ago, so I'm definitely pretty sure it's in the game because of me. |
| 19:56.12 | Stanzilla | I really want/need all those TCG items |
| 19:56.16 | nevcairiel | at least they are retroactively giving you quest rewards and archae rewards into the box |
| 19:56.18 | Stanzilla | but they are like 50k gold per item |
| 19:56.36 | fewyn | how do i open my reagant bank anyways |
| 19:56.44 | nevcairiel | go to bank, see new tab, click on it |
| 19:56.58 | bluspacecow | you need to pay a small fee to activate it I think |
| 19:56.59 | nevcairiel | make sure you dont use old bank addon without support for it |
| 19:57.03 | fewyn | oh bagnon is probably hiding it |
| 19:57.14 | Stanzilla | Several more toys were removed on October 14th. This list was taken from comparing the old version of our guide with what we saw in the live toybox: Survivor's Bag of Coins, Ra'sha's Sacrificial Dagger, Hardened Shell, Rod of Ambershaping, Iron Star Roller, Shard of Archstone, Ash-Covered Horn, Battle Horn, Aviana's Feather, Censer of Eternal Agony, Essence of the Breeze, Goren "Log" R |
| 19:57.16 | fewyn | nope wait |
| 19:57.16 | Stanzilla | fuck |
| 19:57.17 | fewyn | there it is |
| 19:57.19 | Stanzilla | that's a lot |
| 19:57.29 | Alram | where is my rod of transformation blizzard |
| 19:57.30 | Alram | where is it |
| 19:57.36 | Stanzilla | might not get 100 achievement now! |
| 19:57.58 | mikma | all i ever need is staff of archmage |
| 19:58.15 | Semlar | oo reagent bank |
| 19:58.24 | nevcairiel | i should really finish my new bag addon, its practically usable now, but still missing a bunch of small things |
| 19:58.39 | Constie | I got rid of my rod and my staff forever ago. Really poor judgement. |
| 19:58.58 | mikma | i should really finish my EnemyScanner v2 |
| 19:59.04 | fewyn | was not obvious where reagant bank was with bagnon |
| 19:59.09 | fewyn | sad |
| 19:59.09 | nevcairiel | get some alt that never did those quests to get them |
| 20:00.47 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 20:00.48 | Semlar | okay, i can't actually get the "load outdated addons" message to stop showing up on my character selection screen |
| 20:00.50 | nevcairiel | like your free boost char, he probably never did any quests |
| 20:00.51 | jnwhiteh | i should probably get WoD. |
| 20:00.56 | mikma | yea |
| 20:01.00 | mikma | me too |
| 20:01.20 | Cairenn | me three |
| 20:01.33 | bluspacecow | me pi |
| 20:01.33 | Cairenn | but I haven't had an active subscription in 2 years, so .. |
| 20:01.37 | bluspacecow | *om nom nom* |
| 20:02.03 | nevcairiel | i havent had a single day without a sub for close to 10 years now |
| 20:02.38 | Simca | Kaelten: this packager just absolutely refuses to package http://www.wowace.com/addons/libmapdata-1-0/ r142 |
| 20:03.20 | Simca | that setting is changed now, and it packaged the release version of the library. i tried again specifying r142 in the .pkgmeta and it built it without the library at all |
| 20:03.46 | nevcairiel | what path do you reference in the .pkgmeta? |
| 20:04.30 | Simca | svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/libmapdata-1-0/mainline/trunk |
| 20:04.31 | Constie | I don't suppose there's a page somewhere that tells you your total subscribed time? |
| 20:04.53 | nevcairiel | Simca: that should be fine, as long as you don't include any "tag: latest" info or something crazy like that |
| 20:05.40 | jnwhiteh | okay, Clique is "updated" |
| 20:05.46 | Simca | bleh that is probably the issue then |
| 20:05.50 | jnwhiteh | anyone know of anything else that was massively broken with it? |
| 20:06.26 | nevcairiel | Simca: that tag:latest uses the latest tag and not an alpha wasn't an idea that you may have tried when wondering wtf is up? :P |
| 20:07.15 | Simca | no, i never really thought about it |
| 20:07.17 | karl_w_w | reddit is weird, they have their own captcha that you can't refresh manually you just have to try it |
| 20:07.40 | karl_w_w | but the captcha always times out before you have finished writing your post |
| 20:08.56 | jnwhiteh | lol 19.4 MB/s right now. |
| 20:12.23 | Stanzilla | jnwhiteh: I had a feature request for clique! |
| 20:12.33 | jnwhiteh | cool! |
| 20:13.12 | Stanzilla | it's in the wowi comments |
| 20:13.37 | fewyn | blizzard must have improved something with the AH, before when mass posting stuff i'd only be able to post 1-2 auctions a second... now it's more like 5 or more a second |
| 20:14.27 | Simca | if that is true, it is likely searching faster too |
| 20:14.40 | Simca | that may be why you would be getting disconnected on a getall scan |
| 20:14.48 | fewyn | yeah |
| 20:15.04 | Simca | the frequency of server requests remain below a certain level or you will get kicked |
| 20:15.14 | fewyn | interesting |
| 20:15.21 | Ressy | before, clients were only contacting the server every 400ms. |
| 20:15.25 | Ressy | everything's instant now |
| 20:15.35 | fewyn | i canceled pretty much everything last night before the patch |
| 20:15.40 | fewyn | so i'm reposting it all now |
| 20:16.00 | Simca | Ressy: that will be excellent for mail |
| 20:16.36 | fewyn | i wish they'd get rid of the 50 mail limit |
| 20:17.38 | jnwhiteh | Stanzilla: you can do that already! |
| 20:18.00 | Stanzilla | jnwhiteh: only with a macro though, no? |
| 20:18.20 | jnwhiteh | Stanzilla: If there's a focus secure attribute I can add that without much work |
| 20:18.28 | Stanzilla | right |
| 20:18.28 | jnwhiteh | Stanzilla: are you on 6.0.2 and have v60000 downloadeD? |
| 20:18.30 | jnwhiteh | or WoD? |
| 20:18.32 | Stanzilla | no |
| 20:18.37 | jnwhiteh | someone saying there's an issue with the options screen |
| 20:18.39 | Stanzilla | but I can test on beta |
| 20:18.41 | jnwhiteh | smells like an AceDB issue |
| 20:18.49 | jnwhiteh | which the newest bversion on wowi/curse should fix |
| 20:18.51 | jnwhiteh | in theory =) |
| 20:19.36 | Stanzilla | I have Ace3 standalone running anyway |
| 20:20.25 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 20:20.33 | jnwhiteh | what does the battle.net app do if you have both a US and EU account |
| 20:21.32 | Stanzilla | you have to change the region on the login window |
| 20:23.04 | Stanzilla | (of the bnet client) |
| 20:24.13 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: it does _really_ poorly :) |
| 20:24.26 | jnwhiteh | Stanzilla: but what version does it choose :P |
| 20:24.48 | Stanzilla | jnwhiteh: the right one for the region you log in to |
| 20:24.59 | Stanzilla | I just wonder what happens |
| 20:25.01 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: every time I log out of US account, the bnet client "updates" wow to build 18918 -- instead of 19027, that is the patch version :) |
| 20:25.06 | Stanzilla | when you log in to US, it patches and then log back to EU |
| 20:25.31 | Stanzilla | amazing |
| 20:27.04 | Simca | i think that's not a fundamental flaw, actually just somebody being dumb and forgetting to update EU bgdl |
| 20:28.26 | Maldivia | Simca: but the EU bgdl was reduced eealier today to 18918 (probably because that build didn't include .exe files) |
| 20:28.54 | Simca | bgdl is at 18996 anyway, it really is versions that is wrong |
| 20:29.59 | Maldivia | Simca: no, they lowered bgdl to 18918 today as well |
| 20:30.31 | Simca | i'm not sure what the point is though, the exe files aren't relevant for the conversion |
| 20:30.55 | Simca | maybe they did something like if build > 19000 |
| 20:30.59 | jnwhiteh | so I can delete WoW beta |
| 20:31.16 | Torhal | Not if you want to test WoD-specific stuff. |
| 20:31.17 | jnwhiteh | is that fair? |
| 20:31.30 | Torhal | Like garrisons, etc |
| 20:31.30 | jnwhiteh | Torhal: I don't have WoD |
| 20:31.35 | jnwhiteh | so won't build features for it |
| 20:31.51 | Torhal | I'm confused, then: What other WoW beta is there? :D |
| 20:32.08 | jnwhiteh | I have the beta |
| 20:32.16 | jnwhiteh | I don't have the game and am not sure when I'll get it |
| 20:32.21 | Torhal | Ah |
| 20:32.23 | jnwhiteh | and won't develop any features that are WoD specific |
| 20:32.29 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (~Kraps@unaffiliated/kraps) |
| 20:32.35 | jnwhiteh | but 6+ compatibility for my addons |
| 20:32.37 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 20:32.43 | Torhal | Then yeah, you can nuke the beta since 6.0.2 is live (or will be soon for EU) |
| 20:33.02 | Maldivia | Simca... grr, they actually upped bgdl to 18996 again, but my scanner ignored it, as it had already seen that combination :/ |
| 20:34.18 | bluspacecow | tricksy battle.net patching team! |
| 20:35.16 | Torhal | I blame bluspacecow for being Australian. |
| 20:36.19 | Ressy | He's not Australian. |
| 20:36.28 | TC-Work | NZ |
| 20:36.30 | TC-Work | close enough |
| 20:36.50 | Ressy | Thats like saying I'm American.. "Close Enough". |
| 20:36.50 | Ressy | no. |
| 20:37.04 | TC-Work | Might as well be. |
| 20:37.10 | Maldivia | that's like saying I'm human... |
| 20:39.24 | nevcairiel | Ressy: your continent is called america |
| 20:39.35 | nevcairiel | hence, american |
| 20:40.33 | bluspacecow | ha ha |
| 20:40.37 | bluspacecow | thats the Joke Ressy |
| 20:40.42 | bluspacecow | I call Ackis a Mexican |
| 20:40.44 | bluspacecow | :P |
| 20:50.58 | Torhal | Ressy: Ackis always says bluspacecow is from Australia, so it's a bit of an inside joke. |
| 20:51.31 | Fisker | Isn't bluspacecow from australia? |
| 20:51.40 | Fisker | I don't know because he's always lying |
| 20:51.43 | Torhal | Fisker: No, Austria. |
| 20:51.46 | Fisker | ah |
| 20:52.07 | nevcairiel | dont believe him |
| 20:52.11 | *** join/#wowuidev A-KO|tablet (~sa@166.170.30.32) |
| 20:52.35 | Fisker | I want my nexus |
| 20:54.58 | Mr_Rabies | man the "old addons" popup thing is infuriating |
| 20:55.13 | Mr_Rabies | dawg, i unchecked load out of date addons leave me alone |
| 21:00.41 | Mr_Rabies | i don't get why it toggles all your addons off when it should just toggle off "load out of date addons" |
| 21:01.00 | foxlit | any suggestions for words meaning removed-in-future-version and removed-in-this-version, not confusable with not-removed-but-maybe-will-be-removed-in-some-future-version? |
| 21:01.35 | kd3 | "removed in version x.y.z"? |
| 21:01.55 | foxlit | too long; donât have x.y.z |
| 21:07.29 | bluspacecow | redacted? |
| 21:07.45 | Simca | heh new exe build, 19033 |
| 21:07.50 | Simca | guess they're fixing that crash |
| 21:08.16 | Stanzilla | what crashed |
| 21:08.36 | fewyn | my game just crashed when i clicked void storage :/ |
| 21:08.36 | bluspacecow | the radish springs of cheese |
| 21:08.42 | bluspacecow | really ? |
| 21:08.45 | Simca | when you click or mouseover certain toybox things, your game will crash |
| 21:09.14 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.21 | bluspacecow | might want to post in the bug report forums |
| 21:09.35 | fewyn | i didn't even get the OOPS ERROR pop up |
| 21:09.38 | fewyn | the game just closed |
| 21:12.36 | foxlit | going with âDeprecatedâ and âRemovedâ, though the former is icky because people like to stamp it on things that arenât actually going anywhere. |
| 21:13.14 | bluspacecow | https://twitter.com/Zorbrix/status/522131522774503424 |
| 21:15.16 | Mr_Rabies | has EU gone down for 6.0 yet? |
| 21:15.25 | tlund | GAH. curse client autoupdated, and lots of people have pushed addons that are not 5.x compatible :( |
| 21:15.34 | tlund | Mr_Rabies: no, 1hr 45 min left. |
| 21:15.41 | fewyn | sigh |
| 21:15.43 | Mr_Rabies | dang |
| 21:15.45 | fewyn | it says i'm incompatible |
| 21:15.50 | fewyn | when logging in |
| 21:15.59 | fewyn | shakes fist |
| 21:16.04 | kd3 | they just pushed a new build |
| 21:16.06 | Mr_Rabies | relaunch bnet fewyn |
| 21:16.08 | fewyn | i know they did |
| 21:16.10 | fewyn | i did that too |
| 21:16.12 | Mr_Rabies | should force a check for the new build |
| 21:16.12 | Mr_Rabies | dang |
| 21:16.21 | fewyn | 19033 |
| 21:16.21 | bluspacecow | see above fewyn |
| 21:16.28 | bluspacecow | ah |
| 21:16.31 | bluspacecow | uno momento |
| 21:16.34 | fewyn | i'm already on it |
| 21:16.34 | kd3 | hah, not all the realms are flagged properly |
| 21:16.40 | Mr_Rabies | good times |
| 21:16.42 | kd3 | it's not letting me log in on one of my realms |
| 21:16.47 | Mr_Rabies | patch tuesday went pretty well to start |
| 21:16.49 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 21:17.37 | kd3 | looks like they all cleared up |
| 21:18.46 | Mr_Rabies | was really hoping curse client v6 would be out by today :< |
| 21:18.56 | Kaelten | Mr_Rabies :( |
| 21:19.06 | Mr_Rabies | minion is neat and all but it's not the best at finding out which version i have |
| 21:19.19 | tlund | i was hoping to do a last LFR, but bartender stoped working on the EU client, hehe. |
| 21:19.22 | Kaelten | I'd love that but the v6 addon features are still a little bit out |
| 21:19.38 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/Zorbrix/status/522134326079524865 |
| 21:19.41 | Mr_Rabies | you can manually go back tlund |
| 21:19.43 | fewyn | Pushing a build live without downtime means there's sometimes a small (5-10 minute) gap where realms are red (incompatible). |
| 21:19.48 | Mr_Rabies | hit "website" and download an older version |
| 21:19.54 | tlund | Mr_Rabies: yeah, i know |
| 21:19.56 | Mr_Rabies | should work fine |
| 21:20.04 | bluspacecow | minionâs nice but on Mac and I keep having to force quit it |
| 21:20.13 | tlund | Mr_Rabies: or rather, *pfft* - backup-20141007.tar i have a local backuP! :) |
| 21:20.19 | bluspacecow | as it hides its windows and doesnt provide a way to gracefully quit |
| 21:20.46 | jleclanche | https://www.humblebundle.com/ |
| 21:20.49 | jleclanche | AWESOME |
| 21:21.03 | *** join/#wowuidev Tuller (~Tuller@2601:a:4a00:167:d69:e902:db60:b4ef) |
| 21:21.05 | jleclanche | and that is some seriously *good taste* oh shit |
| 21:22.35 | Tuller | Board plane, land, receive 16 user post notifications from Curse, bleh :P |
| 21:22.46 | Kaelten | doh |
| 21:24.08 | Mr_Rabies | tuller: pls update 4 6.0 thx (just incase you didn't get enough from that) |
| 21:24.28 | Tuller | i did, and had betas posted :P |
| 21:24.37 | Mr_Rabies | still |
| 21:24.39 | Mr_Rabies | pls update |
| 21:25.33 | Fisker | Hey Kaelten |
| 21:25.40 | Kaelten | hihi |
| 21:25.48 | Tuller | one user did ask if curseforge was safe :) |
| 21:27.13 | fewyn | yep it seems every time i try to open void storage the game kills itself |
| 21:27.22 | tz | toybox is broken too :D |
| 21:28.59 | jleclanche | short running offer: I have spare steam keys for Dustforce DX, Osmos, Super Hexagon, Zenbound 2 and FTL. first one to ask here for a specific game gets it if you want it. |
| 21:29.20 | jleclanche | (and that is the current humblebundle which i highly recommend) |
| 21:29.29 | fewyn | hrm |
| 21:29.31 | fewyn | seems it is an addon |
| 21:29.34 | fewyn | that's interesting |
| 21:30.07 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 21:30.21 | bluspacecow | i thought the first step in anyones diagnostic process was turn those all off |
| 21:30.33 | tz | toybox is broken for me without addons *shrug* |
| 21:30.45 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.51 | tz | open toybox, 11 pages, open bank, close bank, open toybox, 2 pages |
| 21:30.52 | fewyn | yeah but it shouldn't exit the game without giving an error |
| 21:32.30 | jleclanche | yo kd3 you want any of these? |
| 21:33.08 | kd3 | sec, lemme check my steam to see what I have |
| 21:33.19 | bluspacecow | it depends on how it crashes. sometimes itâll do that without trigging error reporter |
| 21:33.28 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.58 | kd3 | could I get super hex? that's the only one I don't have |
| 21:36.26 | jleclanche | kd3: sure |
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| 21:39.57 | fewyn | fyi |
| 21:40.00 | fewyn | it's ElvUI |
| 21:40.07 | fewyn | crashing me at the void storage |
| 21:48.14 | Kesava | 11000 downloads of 242, how did that happen |
| 21:49.05 | Kesava | oh it's older than i remember. nevermind then. |
| 21:49.11 | Kesava | rambleramble |
| 21:55.10 | kd3 | haha, nef's best line lives on in UBRS. "Kill the one with the dress!" |
| 21:56.09 | Fisker | Too bad the tank could wear dresses |
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| 21:56.31 | Kesava | even paladins have dresses these days |
| 21:56.42 | Jamash | Topic's out of date. |
| 21:56.54 | fewyn | sigh suddenly all my addons don't want to enable after i started disabling them |
| 21:57.05 | zenzelezz | depends on your region |
| 21:57.50 | Jamash | Are there any regions where the patch hasn't deployed and the servers are still up? |
| 21:58.03 | zenzelezz | EU doesn't go down for another hour |
| 21:58.25 | Jamash | EU's out of date. |
| 21:59.52 | bluspacecow | somewhere itâs still 5.4.8 ? |
| 22:00.02 | bluspacecow | and Up ? |
| 22:00.28 | Jamash | 5:58:05 PM - zenzelezz: EU doesn't go down for another hour |
| 22:00.41 | bluspacecow | nvm |
| 22:00.48 | bluspacecow | *sleeps on Fisker* |
| 22:01.13 | Jamash | my mpqs are disappearing :O |
| 22:01.18 | Fisker | Hi. |
| 22:01.36 | bluspacecow | gasp! better back them up in case the conversion process explodes! |
| 22:01.39 | bluspacecow | nah just kidding |
| 22:01.43 | bluspacecow | it does it one by one |
| 22:03.18 | Jamash | mah dataz |
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| 22:10.42 | Jamash | near as I can tell from just watching Resource Monitor it's doing the equivalent of mpq -x | casc -c |
| 22:11.11 | Jamash | er, mpq -x *.MPQ | casc -c data\ |
| 22:12.26 | bluspacecow | something like that |
| 22:12.28 | Jamash | meaning, it seems to just be dumping everything out in lexical order by mpq filename |
| 22:12.36 | bluspacecow | then builds config then indices |
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| 22:13.05 | Simca | it only needs the md5, the filename is useless to it |
| 22:13.41 | Jamash | I mean it appears to have processed the MPQs straight down the line |
| 22:14.11 | foxlit | the order makes absolutely no difference. |
| 22:14.32 | Jamash | if you don't care about locality of reference, I guess |
| 22:14.41 | foxlit | it has to migrate the files it has to migrate anyway, might as well do it one mpq at a time, which would also save disk space. |
| 22:15.28 | Simca | nothing matters except the bytes that make up the file and its md5 really, everything else from mpq about the file, all characteristics, even where it came from, are entirely discarded |
| 22:15.53 | Simca | casc looks at root, sees where the bytes for that md5 go and puts it there and moves on |
| 22:16.43 | foxlit | actually, thatâs kind of interesting. |
| 22:16.58 | foxlit | it needs to get compression right, somehow. |
| 22:18.04 | Simca | there are a few CASC files I haven't dealt with that could explain it - the second encoding hash listed in the cdn config, or maybe the download file |
| 22:18.31 | Simca | i just assumed they were related to streaming or something else irrelevant |
| 22:18.42 | foxlit | itâd be specific for migration |
| 22:19.04 | foxlit | fresh installs donât have the problem because they download encoded forms, not pure content. |
| 22:20.25 | Simca | every dataMD5, compressedMD5 pair is unique; i guess they could figure it out in reverse |
| 22:20.48 | Simca | I don't know much about compression though, that might be incredibly time-consuming |
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| 22:21.28 | Jamash | I don't see why it would be |
| 22:21.51 | foxlit | because you want compressed output to have a specific MD5. |
| 22:22.18 | Jamash | And if the compression hasn't changed from MPQ to MD5 you can just cut and paste |
| 22:22.25 | Jamash | er, MPQ to CASC |
| 22:22.53 | Jamash | if it had then the migration process probably would have taken a lot longer |
| 22:23.10 | foxlit | but youâre allowed to split the file into as many chunks as you like, of any size, and compress each chunk separately. |
| 22:23.43 | Jamash | so then they don't do that when migrating, or have a recipe for how to do that prepared in advance |
| 22:23.48 | Simca | ahhh, then that is what the last 8 bytes before each BLTE header are |
| 22:24.55 | foxlit | sure, you just need the information on where to split and how to compress for each file. |
| 22:26.02 | foxlit | Itâs doubtful that you could construct it locally with any degree of efficiency, so the preload probably includes this somewhere. |
| 22:27.35 | Simca | yeah i was looking at that the other day with a friend; realized that the line before the 'BLTE' signature is 16 bytes compressedHash, 6 bytes size, 8 bytes unknown - http://i.imgur.com/1wtBSZS.png |
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| 22:29.46 | Simca | they must have something do with the rest of the pieces of the file |
| 22:31.36 | Jamash | to the reagent bank! :D |
| 22:31.49 | foxlit | why would you have a 6-byte size in a <4GB file? |
| 22:40.03 | Mr_Rabies | argh |
| 22:40.08 | Mr_Rabies | this "out of date addons" popup |
| 22:40.09 | Mr_Rabies | driving me nuts |
| 22:40.27 | kd3 | ? I only had to deal with it once and it stopped bugging me |
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| 22:57.37 | Maldivia | foxlit: the 6-byte is even more funny, considering in the .idx files, they use 30-bit numbers to express offset :) |
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| 23:05.58 | fewyn | i'm at a loss as to why addons i'm enabling aren't actually enabling |
| 23:06.31 | Mr_Rabies | perhaps their interface version is so old it won't let you use them at all? |
| 23:06.42 | fewyn | they were just working a few hours ago |
| 23:06.53 | fewyn | then i disabled some to troubleshoot the game crashing |
| 23:07.00 | fewyn | now when i reenable them they won't load at all |
| 23:07.10 | Mr_Rabies | dependencies? are their names greyed out? |
| 23:07.16 | Mr_Rabies | if so that means they're missing dependencies |
| 23:07.27 | fewyn | no i'm not missing dependencies Mr_Rabies =p |
| 23:08.02 | Gragagrogog | Iam using a 4.0 addon, still works |
| 23:09.09 | p3lim | Got one that has not been updated since TBC and still works |
| 23:10.28 | bluspacecow | you hvae Display Lua errors turned on ? could be theyâre erroring so badly theyâre not loading |
| 23:11.04 | fewyn | maybe |
| 23:11.07 | fewyn | i just nuked everything |
| 23:11.15 | fewyn | things are loading now |
| 23:11.39 | fewyn | this will give me a chance to purge old addons i guess |
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| 23:13.39 | Ressy | hais fewyn |
| 23:13.43 | fewyn | hai Ressy |
| 23:13.50 | fewyn | thanks for your help on twitter |
| 23:14.01 | Ressy | glad to attempt to help :) |
| 23:14.09 | fewyn | at least i figured out the issue |
| 23:14.14 | fewyn | cause it was confusing me |
| 23:14.18 | fewyn | never seen an addon do that before |
| 23:14.20 | Ressy | all that matters. heh |
| 23:14.22 | Ressy | I have. |
| 23:14.44 | fewyn | thereeee we go |
| 23:14.47 | fewyn | addons work now |
| 23:14.51 | fewyn | had to reinstall them all |
| 23:15.02 | fewyn | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 23:15.04 | Ressy | weird |
| 23:15.20 | fewyn | just glad i didn't lose all my TSM settings |
| 23:15.24 | fewyn | i should probably back those up |
| 23:15.30 | Ressy | oh yeah.. Those would really suck to lose. |
| 23:15.50 | fewyn | i've finally gotten into a groove where i think the settings are /just/ right |
| 23:16.10 | fewyn | and oh god there's a ton of people in ironforge |
| 23:16.12 | fewyn | this is so weird |
| 23:19.56 | Ressy | IF is packed... |
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| 23:24.16 | Kit_ | hello |
| 23:24.26 | kd3 | hi! |
| 23:24.30 | Kit_ | Can anyone help me with an issue I'm having with the addon I'm making? |
| 23:25.02 | Kit_ | It's a small issue but I can't sem to figure it out. For some reason, after 6.0.2 installed, my addons sound stopped working. o_O |
| 23:25.19 | kd3 | check wow/logs/FrameXML.log and see if there's anything listed for your addon |
| 23:25.35 | kd3 | I'm not aware of any bugs specifically with sounds not playing |
| 23:27.04 | Kit_ | No, there are no log entries. I use the method described to play sounds, it was working fine pre 6.0.2 but now sounds don't play. |
| 23:27.17 | Kit_ | I can't even get them to play using /run PlaySoundFile("Interface\\AddOns\\KitGag\\Sounds\\slats.mp3") |
| 23:27.17 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14881728063#2 |
| 23:27.24 | bluspacecow | interesting for those guys running Wine |
| 23:27.35 | kd3 | the outline mode off switch worked just fine for me today |
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| 23:27.42 | [TOM_RUS] | Kit_, isn't they removed mp3 support? |
| 23:27.49 | bluspacecow | there was something on wowinterface on that |
| 23:27.53 | Kit_ | ah did they? :( |
| 23:28.00 | ajmitch | had no outlines showing with opengl & wine this morning |
| 23:28.13 | nevcairiel | yeah, mp3 is gone |
| 23:28.14 | nevcairiel | convert to ogg |
| 23:28.16 | bluspacecow | ajmitch: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14881728063#2 |
| 23:28.17 | bluspacecow | yep |
| 23:28.33 | ajmitch | bluspacecow: yes, I was replying to that |
| 23:28.43 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.49 | ajmitch | though being at work right now, I can't check the settings |
| 23:28.55 | bluspacecow | i was about to post it here anyway :3 |
| 23:29.06 | nevcairiel | OpenGL lacks a few of the new features |
| 23:29.32 | nevcairiel | You might be better off using the DX mode in wine |
| 23:29.42 | ajmitch | if I can bear the frame rate |
| 23:29.44 | bluspacecow | Kit_: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49597 |
| 23:30.42 | Kemayo | I smell a market for a very short-lived addon which just deletes all the Toy items which you already know. :P |
| 23:31.15 | p3lim | bluspacecow: Did they really let the PlaySoundFile bug on to the live servers? |
| 23:32.46 | [TOM_RUS] | game music still in mp3 format, it's weird that PlaySoundFile don't accept mp3 |
| 23:33.40 | bluspacecow | not sure havenât tested it on live |
| 23:33.45 | bluspacecow | will need a test case |
| 23:37.20 | Alram | more like |
| 23:37.23 | Alram | a test casc |
| 23:37.39 | Alram | lets himself out and takes Torhal with him |
| 23:38.50 | Kit_ | converted to ogg, works like a charm, thank you so much. I was totally stumped! :) |
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| 23:51.50 | Kit_ | One more quick question, what is the version number for addons right now? I'm never sure where to look, I'm still kind of new to making addons. |
| 23:52.17 | Semlar | 60000 |
| 23:52.24 | Semlar | someone should update the topic |
| 23:52.31 | Kit_ | ty :D |
| 23:52.38 | Semlar | i elect cairenn |
| 23:53.13 | bluspacecow | ~seen haste |
| 23:53.18 | purl | haste is currently on #wowuidev #wowace. Has said a total of 32 messages. Is idling for 9h 15m 12s, last said: 'happy just got back from vacation and suddenly have to do stuff day \:D/'. |
| 23:53.18 | bluspacecow | ~lastseen haste |
| 23:53.24 | bluspacecow | haste: nvm :P |
